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Re:War is ugly.
Then why is it going to be placed near Russia borders?
USA is going to start another cold war. And that's after Russia has closed radio locators in Cuba and Vietnam ( http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0 0E4D91E3EF932A15753C1A9679C8B63 ). -
Re:Completely Moot
They already have went with a more flexible DRM on the Zune.
For instance, Sony & Universal have chosen to disallow "squirting" (IE: Zune's wifi sharing feature) of some of their music collections. All of this and Universal even gets a cut of the Zune sales. Before music is even loaded on the device.
That bears repeating. A music company that did not have a hand in producing the hardware receives part of the sales of that piece of hardware, before any music even touches said hardware. Yet this same company will not allow some of its songs to be shared, even under an already restrictive DRM scheme (a "squirted" song lasts 3 days or 3 plays).
Additionally, this device 100% does not support the PlayForSure DRM scheme that Microsoft championed right up until the Zune launched.
If that isn't flexible DRM (in favour of very large, very ignorant companies), then I don't know what is.
I think it was either PA, or a Slashdot comment that stated something like, "eventually DRM will force hardware to a point where the major music player-companies put out a box with one button on it. When you press this button nothing will happen. Fortunately, the hacker community will get a hold of it and make it open garage doors or some such madness." -
Re:No
Think ancient history, perhaps the suppression of the Nika Riots in Constantinople, or the Jewish Revolt of 66-73AD. Were those massacres? Were they justified?
If Constantinople had fallen before the middle ages, there would have been no Renaissance, no Enlightenment, no Industrial Revolution, and dare I say, no America.
While it's likely there would have been no "Renaissance", no "Enlightenment", what would have taken their place? Without an accurate method of predicting social change (and we have nothing even approaching that), there's no way to know what lies down the road untravelled. Maybe we would have reached space a thousand years ago, or maybe we'd still be tending potatoes in fields under Byzantian rule. You seem awfully certain (again - a bad thing) that the course of history has been the best possible one that could have happened.
But I'll admit, your solution is half-correct. You seem to want to dominate the middle east though. I think that recent history has shown that that path just leads to more hatred. It's been over 50 years now since it was tried in Iran, and look at the state of that country right now. Ironically, more progress occurred when they were just left alone for forty years. Before the Iraq war, Iranians were electing reformists - trying to escape their radial religious government. Now the radicals are back in power, which I believe has a direct correlation to the fear created by the US messing around in the middle east again.
Cultural dominance doesn't have to be forced - although the free speech necessary to affect social change might. People around the world are smart enough to compare their own surroundings to others, and recognize that certain ways of life are better. But to dominate them forcefully/covertly is to have a huge gap of understanding between those dictating the new "culture" and those living it, and thus breed more contempt. -
Junior's First Upskirt
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Competing with Apple???The reasons, of course, have nothing to do with taking a moral stand; EMI wants to compete with Apple. 'The London-based EMI is believed to have held talks with a wide range of online retailers that compete with Apple's iTunes.
Not according to the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/09/business/media/0 9online.html:
EMI, which releases music by artists including Coldplay and the Beatles, has discussed various proposals to sell unprotected files through an array of digital retailers, including Apple, Microsoft, Real Networks and Yahoo, said the executives, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
Don't be confused by the submitter's opinion. Moral reasons vs competition was mentioned nowhere in the linked Associated Press article...
In the manner of Steve Ballmer "FUD! FUD! FUD!" -
MOAR pipes
I hope yahoo's Pipes are a bit better than Portland's
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$100,000 doesn't matterIt doesn't matter if Microsoft is paying H1B workers $100,000 a year.
Economic growth since early 2000, when the Dow reached its previous peak, hasn't been exceptional. But after-tax corporate profits have more than doubled, because workers' productivity is up, but their wages aren't -- and because companies have dealt with rising health insurance premiums by denying insurance to ever more workers."
Compared to the cost of living and worker productivity, workers in the US have not benefited from from their own increases in productivity. "Between 1980 and 2004, real wages in manufacturing fell 1 percent, while the real income of the richest 1 percent -- people with incomes of more than $277,000 in 2004 -- rose 135 percent. --NY Times Microsoft may pay H1B workers $100,000 a year (or not) but even if they do, it is not a fair wage relative to the cost of living and the increase in worker productivity. There is no question that H1B workers hold down wage increases. If Microsoft and other tech companies increased wages, reduced demands for unpaid overtime, and attempted to retain workers older than 35, they wouldn't have any trouble hiring. Instead they import low wage workers and as a result hold down all wages increasing corporate profits at the expense of the workers.
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$100,000 doesn't matterIt doesn't matter if Microsoft is paying H1B workers $100,000 a year.
Economic growth since early 2000, when the Dow reached its previous peak, hasn't been exceptional. But after-tax corporate profits have more than doubled, because workers' productivity is up, but their wages aren't -- and because companies have dealt with rising health insurance premiums by denying insurance to ever more workers."
Compared to the cost of living and worker productivity, workers in the US have not benefited from from their own increases in productivity. "Between 1980 and 2004, real wages in manufacturing fell 1 percent, while the real income of the richest 1 percent -- people with incomes of more than $277,000 in 2004 -- rose 135 percent. --NY Times Microsoft may pay H1B workers $100,000 a year (or not) but even if they do, it is not a fair wage relative to the cost of living and the increase in worker productivity. There is no question that H1B workers hold down wage increases. If Microsoft and other tech companies increased wages, reduced demands for unpaid overtime, and attempted to retain workers older than 35, they wouldn't have any trouble hiring. Instead they import low wage workers and as a result hold down all wages increasing corporate profits at the expense of the workers.
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i've noticed the tensionbetween hardware manufacturers and content creators
just this morning, i read this (Hollywood Takes Its Concerns About Piracy and Taxes to Washington):In a rare moment of newsmaking, Barry M. Meyer, the chairman of Warner Brothers, issued a sharp rebuke to the president of the Consumer Electronics Association, Gary Shapiro, who warned in January that antipiracy efforts could "smother" technological progress and said that "private conduct may be unauthorized, but that does not mean it is piracy."
Mr. Meyer took issue with calling the theft of intellectual property merely unauthorized rather than illegal, and said that Hollywood's promotion of so-called digital rights management technology had made it possible for consumers to rent or buy movies and TV programs at a variety of prices.
"It's easy to demonize it, but without some level of control and order, things don't work," he said. "The only choice we're not offering is free."
He added: "Unlike the technology industry, which can outrun pirates by upgrading their product, there is no 'Gone With the Wind 2.0.' "
i have a feeling that the prime mover and shaker in the wars for/ against drm will be fought mainly along this battlefront. so either hardware manufacturers, by ignoring content creators, will drag content creators kicking and screaming into reality, or content creators will probably, as a mode of attack, simply buy hardware manufacturers, and silence them via business channels
some, like sony, are both hardware and content creators. internal battles on the issue within sony might be revelatory for what our future holds
i'm actually pretty upbeat about the future in this regard though. people like jobs show that hardware manufacturers are just as willing to dream about bullying around content creators as visa versa. it was the content creators dithering and denial on the subject of downloadability that allowed jobs to create iTunes and lead us into the future, so to say. from an obvious business perspective in terms of natural fit, content creators should have been the ones offering a download storefront on the internet, but they didn't out of their fear and panic about what the internet meant to their existence. along came a hardware manufacturer, with nothing to lose on the content front, and therefore no fear, and filled the natural void of consumer want/ need that wasn't being filled as it should have naturally been filled by the content creators. and for dithering as they did, now content creators are in a deeper hole because they have to deal with a formidable opponent, jobs, with nothing to lose and no reason not to defy content creators. he is now in charge of the largest growing revenue stream for the content creators, not one of their own stooges. good for the consumer
and besides, even if all of american hardware and content creators were consolidated business-wise against the interests of us, the consumers, there is always hardware manufacturers in china, or russia, or india, or europe, who would be all too happy to steal the lions share of the marketplace from consumers sick of the ridiculous 1984-style limitations on their hardware that would obviously result from collusion between hardware and content creators
in other words, i don't think content creators have enough business muscle AND international clout to completely limit the range of drm-free options we as consumers will be able to access hardware-wise. and therefore, content creators and their dreams of completely controlling how we access our own culture is doomed ;-)
an odious intrusion, simply because they want to preserve their antiquated pre-internet business model. no, i have a better option: why don't you just fade away and die, movie/ music conglomerates? you need us. we don't need you. welcome to the future: the internet has rendered old style media distribution models, where you could easily put up your tolls, archaic. in the future, artists will reach consumers directly
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As a complete aside
I simply love the link to a description of Earth on the website http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics
/ earth_planet/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier
Who wrote this, Lonely Planet Alpha Centauri?
Last time I checked you could sum it up in 2 words: "Mostly Harmless". Now I guess it would be "Most harmless, watch for debris on approach". -
ISS junk
You gotta love that they list the ISS as a piece of Space Junk in their "Interactive Graphic".
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Re:Self-Parking cars
There's a story by Calvin Trillin in the NYT about that... ( http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/artic
l e?res=F70810FE3C5B0C758EDDA80894DF404482 ).
The sad part is this quote: "The Advanced Parking Guidance System works only if the spot is six and a half feet longer than the car -- the sort of spot, in other words, that the average Manhattan parker comes upon about once every 14 or 15 years." -
No surprise really
After all, private companys has taken over a great part of what used to be run by the government. The US is getting closer and closer to have a privatly run government. And, no, there is no evidence that this is a good deal for anyone but the companys who gets the contract:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/washington/04con tract.html?_r=1&oref=slogin -
Article is "Who really won the superbowl"!Let me link you all to Wal-Mart partners with studios in download deal on CNet.com, originally from The New York Times.
Eivind.
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Re:Not what it seemsYou my friend have discovered the gaping hole in our current system of discovering drugs. Willow bark relieved pain long before anyone discovered it contained acetylsalicylic acid. Clinical trials don't make a treatment effective, they only show if it is effective or not. It is surprising how many people (especially on slashdot) are unable to comprehend that distinction.
In all fairness, it isn't just slashdot. The medical field has a strong bias against non pharmaceutical company originated treatments - including simple things like niacin for cholesterol, and of course anything that is even remotely 'herbal'.
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Re:Great idea for next /. poll
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Re:seek inspiration from the creative works of oth
I have a source that seems to indicate that consumers are more willing to pay for things now (if 2002 ~= now), but you'll have to pay for it.
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Re:Colorado was the last to fight the drinking age
Actually, Wyoming was the last state to raise it's drinking age to 21, (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9
4 0DE5D61F38F931A25750C0A96E948260) but that's still a bit of a gray area (the you-have-to-be-21 part). If you've been there (or grew up there), you'd know that drinking is considered a skill. Hell, you could still LEGALLY drink a beer while driving on state highways up until a few years ago. And now, with a budget surplus of around $3B, they can pretty much tell the Fed govt to go fuck themselves. It's just too bad Mr. Vice President Vader is from there. Go Pokes! -
Old news; dupe
See This Boring Headline Is Written for Google, NYT April 2006. Covered by Slashdot.
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Re:The Report
Sorry I kinda flew off the handle.
Accepted also. Fortunately, you are on the "right" side of this discussion so you won't be modded down.
My only point in bringing up the ozone is that it was supposed to kill us all, or at least make us walk around in burkas. Now, it's no longer spoken of. However, if a scientist had said in 1997 that the ozone would be forgotten by 2007, he would have been ridiculed, shouted down and possibly decertified. Now, global warming skeptics face the same fate. Granted, all evidence supports global warming, but in the 1990's all evidence pointed to a growing ozone whole.
Personally, I accept global warming. I won't say that I know it is happening (I have made the world-wide observations personally), but I accept the evidence. That said, I have a hard time accepting the cause of global warming. While I won't reject man's role in it, have found that man is generally arrogant and believes himself to be the cause of anything not fully explained. There are just too many other factors that could just as likely be the cause that have nothing to do with CO2 levels, such as an increase in solar activity and warming on other planets on our solar system as well.
Finally, it seems that many environmentalists raise the alarm flag way too often to achieve ulterior motives. The largest proponents of global warming are the same groups that opposed development well before global warming was on the radar. The Sierra Club is one such example. In the headlines today:
President Jacques Chirac has demanded that the United States sign both the Kyoto climate protocol and a future agreement that will take effect when the Kyoto accord runs out in 2012...
But he warned that if the United States did not sign the agreements, a carbon tax across Europe on imports from nations that have not signed the Kyoto treaty could be imposed to try to force compliance. The European Union is the largest export market for American goods.
This is an example of the political abuse of global warming that turns me off of the whole idea. -
get the article directly from NY Times
The article about Vista vulnerabilities that you're referring to is here.
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Who lowered the "insightful" bar?
Has he abandoned empiricism and scientific method in favor of rationalism? Disavowed science? Become an Objectivist? Had his degrees revoked for fraud? Who is this guy? And if his training is in oceanography, how did he get into civil engineering?
First, this phrase came from the Guardian. They have a certain point of view here... and that is very much to the left. It's hardly serves their cause to make their critics sound credible. (And, FYI, there are a significant number of experts that are very skeptical of the CO2 theory of global warming and/or the modeling that is used.)
Second, he was formerly a researcher (employed by the Canadian government). The Guardian's staff apparently views the word "scientist" as just an occupation.
Third, this is basically an ad hominem argument... he's a "former scientist", and let's just assume he's an objectivist, commits fraud, etc so he couldn't possibly be right. Please.
FYI. You can find lots of info on him by starting here.
Tadepalli Satyanarayana Murty, known simply as Tad Murty, has worked with Canada and the US on the Pacific Ocean tsunami warning system. An expert on tsunamis, storm surges and tidal waves, he is vice-president of The Tsunami Society, Honolulu, which publishes the journal Science of Tsunami Hazards. Having served the Canadian Oceanographic Service for 27 years, he was also the director of Australia's National Tidal Facility for three years. Currently with the Department of Civil Engineering, University of Ottawa, Murty was involved with the preparation of the 'Indian Ocean Tsunami Travel Time Atlas', due to be published soon, which India has managed to produce ahead of Australia. Since the December 26, 2004 tsunami, Murty, originally from Guntur, has made seven trips to India. In his last visit to Chennai recently, as an invitee of FICCI, he spoke to Outlook at length on the various challenges that the Indian Ocean Tsunami Warning System poses and the need for coastal inundation maps. -
Re:The Report
For fear that you were miss-informed rather than just stupid: the incident you are referring to was one weather person's blog referring to other weather people (meterologist not climatologist). I realize Republicans have a real problem with the difference between weather and climate.
I realize that in your and Rush L.'s mind there is perfect analogy between a random blogger and Exxon corporation (who made 180 million dollars a day last year); roughly like comparing a grocery store parking lot speed bump to the Himalayas.
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Re:marketing vs R&D
First, riddle me this: When's the last time you saw an ugly rep? Most of those salesfolk we saw were women, cuties, 20s-30s.
That's because drug companies actively recruit cheerleaders to work as reps.
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Re:God bless this little thiefGod bless this little thief
God bless this alleged little thief...
That's something we've forgotten here in the USA, you are innocent until proven guilty!
We have become sooo complacent with law enforcement, that we automatically believe that they are right. They are not. They make mistakes and on rare occasions, lie to protect their jobs.
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The rule of law has been suspended.
The almost total ignorance of U.S. government corruption among its citizens scares me. I love the U.S., and for me that means staying with it when it is in trouble.
Bush administration representatives have not been arrested because the rule of law has been suspended. Here is one of the many, many articles about that: Bush Is Not Above the Law.
GWB is only a figurehead. Yes, he is corrupt, but he mostly enables other corrupt people. -
Re:and yet...
And you want to spend the Iraq war funds on telescopes to watch a robot land on Mars?
He didn't say the whole amount, he said part. There's plenty to go around.
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Re:Windows Vista - The Cow Starts Now!What do you all think about Vista or it's introduction video?
Haven't seen it. I found this sad, sad picturedepressing enough for one day.
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Re:MassGIS
A small airplane crashed into the White House right after 9/11 causing little damage
Are you referring to the crash right after 9/11/1994?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=hea lth&res=9903E1D6173BF930A2575AC0A962958260
If not, I'm curious, any chance you have a link with more information? -
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More (Better?) Coverage
http://dailytech.com/Life+With+Penryn/article5869
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16839253/
http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/27/technology/bc.micr ochips.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/27/technology/27chi p.html?em&ex=1170046800&en=59a4d10473c4a8c8&ei=508 7%0A
http://news.com.com/Chip+companies+entering+their+ metal+period/2100-1006_3-6153962.html
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Re:This is painfully obvious and hopelessly naive
Its similar to a pretty interesting conceptual innovation in medicine...
See also in this vein: professional, particularly military, aviators and their many checklists (sometimes referred to as 'plastic brains'). According to this article, several hospitals have seen this as something to learn from. -
Re:"Iraq" is a stalking horse
There is no use for it in Iraq.
So the cases where civilians were mistaken for hostiles when approaching troops but didn't recognize that they were perceived as being a threat and were shot like the italian reporter are all figments of our imagination?It seems to me that a non lethal, surefire means of communicating GO AWAY! that makes people go away without killing them would be very useful to the troops in Iraq.
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Re:From the good-luck-with-that dept.
:But I recall someone once saying the "average person" is 5' tall, female, and Chinese.
::Is she single?
:::No, the average girl is already married.
:-(Not anymore! For the first time ever: 51% of Women Are Now Living Without Spouse
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Re:Reference to Soaking sponge in water
>Except that they didn't dunk him and toss him in a microwave oven, although that would be a novel form of execution.
But, of course, unless you are extremely patient (willing to wait hours, maybe even days) you can't kill anyone in a microwave. At best you'd give the convict cataracts or some burns from the sponge if you left him in there with in on his head for a few hours. Without the sponge, the convict, if he could get over his irrational fears, would probably find it relaxing. -
good for goose ... good for gander
This is the TV-dramatization of it http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C
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but it did happen.
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It's the lawWhile I agree with you regarding everything else, having a gun in your household -- let alone in the hands of a child -- can hardly be considered responsible.
It's not just responsible, it's the law.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/16/opinion/16reyno
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MooFTA:
Howell and his colleagues created a four-inch-long chamber filled with cesium gas heated to about 212 degrees Fahrenheit. When they sent pulses of laser light through that gas, the cesium atoms put the brakes on the leading edge of that wave, creating a photonic traffic jam.
So Cesium slows things down....
Yet, this artcle which was reported on Slashot here, saysIn the most striking of the new experiments a pulse of light that enters a transparent chamber filled with specially prepared cesium gas is pushed to speeds of 300 times the normal speed of light. That is so fast that, under these peculiar circumstances, the main part of the pulse exits the far side of the chamber even before it enters at the near side.
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Re:Worrying...
Not only that, don't fly near US air space in case you are grounded due to an emergency.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=hea lth&res=9B0CE1DE1531F933A25752C0A962958260
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Re:self replicating machines will inevitably evolvAnd that, in a nutshell, is why creationism can be believed by otherwise intelligent people. It is? Evolution is a numbers game. Evolution is slow, so slow that we can't really conceive of how slow that is. Slow? Is it now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evoluti on
http://www.dinosauria.com/jdp/evol/lizard.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/science/07evolve .html?ex=1299387600&en=03aecd6036986b0e&ei=5088&pa rtner=rssnyt&emc=rss
Evolution proceeds at different rates depending on the environment. If a population of long, medium and short tailed monkeys has all of the long tailed ones killed in a generation, then the species has evolved in that one generation... 5 years? The genes for long tails have gone.
Random mutations now... Well that depends on just how good the copying process is, but no matter how good it is, it isn't perfect. There's no such thing as perfection in the real world so errors are going to appear and accumulate in offspring. As to those probes. How does it take for a million self-replicating probes to become a trillion. Depends how many offspring each generation have on average, the time between generations and available resources.... And if mutated machines predate on one another... No reason to believe they wouldn't. -
Re:Worrying...
Not only that, don't fly near US air space in case you are grounded due to an emergency.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=hea lth&res=9B0CE1DE1531F933A25752C0A962958260 -
What are the odds...
...a guy that can't even put his hat on the right way around manages to organize a winning defense?
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Re:Thoughtcrime
"Battle ye not with monsters, lest ye also become a monster. And remember that when you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
But I would question your straw man about "adopting your opponents methods to defeat them." Every time anyone even hints that they have been silenced, it makes the front page of every newspaper. Like, say, this example from last year.
Boy, not only did they not muzzle Hansen and McCarthy, they let them interview for a front page story on the New York Times.
Way to shut 'em up, eh?
Deutsch, of course, resigned (as he should have) but that's hardly stifling dissent. And Scientists should not be dictating policy, unless they hold office. If they feel that strongly, they have every right to run and set policy.
But the consistent anti-Bush screed smacks of its own ignorance and imbalance.
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Re:Return of the Battleship
The hull, the superstructure, the powerplants. The rest is just fluff. Ask any marine architect - they do this to big ships all of the time, but you don't screw with hull (unless of course, you're the Coast Guard)
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Re:freaking me out
Bush was appointed in 2000 by the supreme court with after a contested ballot in a state his brother runs. He is the son of the former head of the cia.
The NYTimes disagreed. The votes Gore actually asked to have recounted under the rules he asked for would not have won the election for him. Now there were disputes that, maybe, if all of Florida was recounted (contrary to Gore's limited request) Gore _might_ have won by a hundred votes or so... but it all depends on the methodologies (Bush would have won with others). Such a hand count would have taken a long time and would been very much disputable (there is uniform standard to count bad votes). The Supreme Court did the country a favor by stepping in when it did even if it took a lot of flack for it.No-one disputes the fact that Gore got more vote in the country as a whole. So don't give me this "America voted Bush in" crap.
Firstly, we don't have a popular vote. Simply adding up each states votes is not the same thing. Bush, Gore, and every serious presidential contender since has spent their time and their dollars according to the electoral college system. Bush spent damn little time appealing to voters in highly populous states like CA, NJ, etc because it was a foregone conclusion that he was going to lose those states. If it were a popular vote system, then he would have been well advised to spend time in more populuous states. Likewise, many Republican-leaning voters in those states may well have chosen to stay home since they couldn't sway the presidential election.
Secondly, the difference in the sum of the voters was approximately 540K votes or a mere ~.19% of the entire nation. This is hardly reflects a real nationwide preference for Gore given the circumstances.
Thirdly, fun fact: Bush got about 6M more votes in 2000 than Clinton got in 1992. Does that make Clinton illegitimate in your view?
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Re: nice troll, smitty
Here's the actual press release that appears to talk about the canyon policy. Reading through it, it looks like there's a bit of misunderstanding on who exactly is saying or not saying what (I don't think selling a creationist book means that if you ask a tour guide they have to tell you the canyon is 6000 years old). They do have links to letters and responses though, you can read them yourself. Other sources picked up their press release but don't mention anything about a ban on telling people how old the canyon is.
Do tour guides at the Grand Canyon take orders directly from the Federal Government
Why, as a matter of fact, they do. It's a national park, ruled by the National Park Service.
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What's a factor of 10?
3) India/China are not projected to reach the US's level of greenhouse gas contribution for 20 years. Per Capita equivilance is even further away.
Well, what's a factor of ten when arguing about Kyoto and global warming?
4) Kyoto wasn't supposed to be a solution - it was supposed to be a first step. Anyone thinking otherwise is deluded.
I have heard that the regulatory damage to the US economy would have been $100 billion, and that the reduction in emissions would reduce the projected warming trend by 0.07 deg C. One wonders what the full dose would cost.
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If you found an unlocked door at an airport
Funny you should mention that. Just this year, a woman looking for her wallet pushed open a door to a parked airplane at Newark. An alarm went off. Nobody paid any attention. She was alone on the airplane for several minutes checking around the seat for her wallet.
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You choose your coverage
At this point, it's fairly evident that people will listen to the media of their choosing. If a large segment of the population is out of touch with reality because they think one source has it right and alllll the others are insane, it's really their fault, and our obligation to have to defend their right to speak and vote in a free society where their votes count just as much as ours. We just have to deal with it.
The politicians can try, but I don't see the solution coming from Washington no matter how well-intentioned its proponents may be. Do you want fair and balanced coverage and have some time to spare? Read a larger variety of news sources, from multiple countries, from multiple points of view. You will gain a sense of who's biased how, and make first-hand decisions about who is being more reasonable and honest.
I have my own sites that I follow. Some air a specific point of view, but listening only to the echo chamber will weaken your perspective. Here is one site that I think does a fantastic job of presenting a wide range of views for your consideration.
And then, here are the rounds I usually make:
BBC world news
Google News
The Daily Star, an English-language Lebanese newspaper
The New York Times
The Guardian, a British news source
Le Monde, the English edition
Al Jazeera's English language page, like it or hate it
World Net Daily, if you want to know what the Christian Right is up to
Now, good luck.
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Re:Is it obvious yet?
Sure...you said..I'm all for research into global climate, but it's very clear that the models we currently have are not up to the task of telling us if we have cause to be alarmed yet.
Here's a link to an article that mentions how current models don't even predict how quickly glaciers are currently melting. Hence, change is happening faster than the models predict, hence....*ALARM*. Now wake up and try to do something productive today.
HAND!