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Go here: http://www.opensourcecms.com/

Open Source CMS has the various offerings grouped by purpose/application/specialty. It also provides links to CMS demo sites.

FWIW, I'm using Concrete5. It's okay. Seems to be getting better.

I can also suggest trying e107: http://e107.org/

Here you can fond it: http://php.opensourcecms.com/
The site hosts a lot of different live-CMSes, so you can try how it feels from user/admin perspective. They're reinstalled every 2 hours, so nobody can mess it really badly.
Of course these are minimalist installations without fancy plugins.

Flames and downmods just come with the territory here, though I don't think it would be as bad as you think. But you can't let it stop you. (You can actually, but I recommend against it.) Maybe you've actually posted what it is somewhere I'll look - but if not I would still like to know. If you are dead set against mentioning it here at all - I would appreciate if you would email me a url - bittercode@gmail.com

Is it on http://php.opensourcecms.com/?

If not I would see about getting it added. This is the top hit when googling open source cms. I haven't used it in a little while as I'm pretty heavily into Drupal now, but when I was still figuring that out I always went there first.

Is it in the Wikipedia list of Content Management Systems?

If not I would try to get it added there.

Oh man, I just started playing with that at the OpenSourceCMS demo, and is that ever nice! Thanks very kindly for the pointer.

There's a lack of phpbb like systems after all ... release it immediately!

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Everyone has pet projects .. thing is that systems like this take time to document, understand and integrate. At the end of the day does your system add anything to the gamut of CMS (see eg http://www.opensourcecms.com/) - if not why release it? [that's a genuine question, I'm sure there are valid reasons]

If it does add something, a new way to handle captchas, cheaper DB access, better CSS templating or whatever then arguably you're better distilling those parts into mods/libraries for currently popular systems. That way the advance that you've made can be used and developed by more people.

I'm really not trying to be down on your contribution, btw.

Absolutely Agree.

Focus your efforts on the unique aspects of your site, use the best wheel already invented, and Drupal is among the top few, your choice might vary, but if php works for you Drupal Rocks! Use the extra resources you now have available because you didn't spend sooo much time reinventing the wheel to address any needed features not already available if you find any; For Drupal, write a module; contribute your module, and still you will have saved a lot of effort, as a side benefit, your site will be much more secure because the code is peer reviewed, your custom in house from scratch code is likely to contain multiple vulnerabilities unless you also do a comprehensive security audit.

Go with an appropriate CMS and you will not be disappointed ;)

Check out This site Open Source CMS at http://www.opensourcecms.com/ there you can demo both as user and admin dozens of open source content management systems in a sand box type environment, Each demo system is auto-magically reloaded every two hours.

to quote: OpenSourceCMS "was created with one goal in mind. To give you the opportunity to "try out" some of the best php/mysql based free and open source software systems in the world. You are welcome to be the administrator of any CMS system here, allowing you to decide which system best suits your needs. You should also visit CMS Training Videos for more in depth video tutorials for many of these systems."

Enjoy !

Does anyone know of other similar open source projects? In specific, I'm curious if there are other projects like SugarCRM. I know about all the different Wikipedia projects.

For those who wonder why we have had to come to such a decision, we have had input from both the Joomla! project and the FSF directly, and it is the stance of both Joomla! and the FSF that the use of a bridge into a GPL-licensed system constitutes the creation of a combined work. This forced us to reconsider our development of the bridge and look for ways we could accomplish the task while still respecting the licensing of both projects. Ultimately, that proved impossible. When discussing with the FSF, they stated that the bridge and SMF would fall under the GPL license, and there is no workaround.

For those of you looking at CMSs... the site Open Source CMS is an invaluable resource. They allow you to demo all of the popular choices and choose which one you like the best.

...any of the major projects on the list at opensourcecms.com for a simple reason: I can look at virtually every major open-source based CMS project out there, see installs, get user community feedback on each of them, and look for more effective implementations all in one place.

I think I have come up with more innovations that I can adapt for use in my company that are based on stuff in these CMS packages than any other single web location I can think of.

Quote from Microsoft Share Points Website :

I know very little about share points. From what I can gather by looking on Wikipedia, rather than the provided Microsoft link. SharePoints offers "wiki and weblog support, with third-party browser support".

If you are after version management, there are plenty of open-source tools available.

For the wiki and weblog solutions there are also plenty of other open source offerings. Check out opensourcecms for a live demo of alternatives. These systems do no have per-user license costs and many of the solutions are licensed under the GNU GPL and as such can be tailored to meet specific organizational requirements.

As previously mentioned, I know very little about sharepoints. So if I have missed the boat on what makes SharePoints indespesible let me know where I can gather detailed information from. I am guessing that you are running an older version which only works with Internet Explorer. Perhaps running Internet Explore within WINE or Parallels Desktop would be a way to provide access to any Mac OS Desktops you are running, or thinking of deploying

As another shameless plug. Lucid offers information management consultation. You would be welcome to contact Lucid to arrange a meeting so we can better understand your requirements.

dont you mean http://opensourcecms.com/

Not an answer to the OP, but a helpful link to everyone
http://www.opensourcecms.com/

They have online demos of 40+ open source cms's. A nice way to try a few out before installing a cms yourself.

opensourcecms.com They let you try out blogs also, not just CMSes

When I went looking for a CMS that is where I first tried. This page http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_ content&task=view&id=388&Itemid=160 is very useful. It gives the list of CMS Ratings. People should take from the ratings it what they will. My advice for people looking for a CMS is try them all, you will probably never find something that matches what you want, but you may come close.

A much better site to compare CMS's is OpenSourceCMS.com. They're all OpenSource and PHP-based, which is many, but you won't find Plone and some others there. At least you can do a live demo of them all without having to localinstall it first, and you can view the popularity ratings.

I've been back to the site a few times to check out the state of the CMS-space, but I still rank Drupal, Xoops, Joomla/Mambo, and MODx at the top.

Without having to install.

http://www.opensourcecms.com/

Surprised nobody has mentioned that site yet. You get to try them as demos which are reset every two hours or so.

As someone who had to choose an open source CMS package recently, I found this site much easier to use: http://www.opensourcecms.com/

This doesn't cover all the CMS you might want to investigate (nothing costing $10K, for instance, in case that really is something you want), but http://opensourcecms.com/ has dozens of systems installed for demo use, so you might be able to get a sense of whether one of them would be appropriate. I have found that the demo versions don't have all the modules, so it wouldn't surprise me if you can't actually "test drive" any project management modules for the systems. For general demo, though, it's pretty cool.

One of the volunteers on that site also runs http://ongetc.com/, which has summary information on a few more CMS possibilities. The first site is restricted to open source tools that use PHP/MySQL. The second site seems less restrictive. I'm still looking for more general sources.

a content management system makes life easier for non-geeks. so say you have a secretary who wants to update a website, you setup joomla, and then they can login and change the content on the pages of the website within a web browser. you have a wysiwyg editor which is much like word (something they are used to) and all the have to know how to do is type. no coding, less of a headache for you.

test it out here and see what you think: http://opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=content& task=view&id=2097&Itemid=159/

You'll be able to test it out at OpenSourceCMS.com

I had my suspicions this would not be hacked - unless there's a flaw in ssh, you need to come through the web server, which is running as a user with no file or directory ownership. If this machine had, say phpNUKE running on it, it would have been a much juicier prospect.

Things I've noticed that can cause security risks on a web server:
a) allows write access under the document root - many CMS (Content management systems) have such a mechanism to cache images like avatars (which honestly should go in the database), but say a hacker uploads a script instead of an image (I sure hope it's getting validated...) and by knowing the structure of the CMS can execute the script as the web user (www on mac) - whee - you've got at least limited system access (and could at minimum deface other avatars). This is one reason why 99% of my web servers are read only by www (and not owned by www) - only the writing required directories like an avatars directory is owned by www and permissions are 200 or 600 (for UNIX noobs, it's set by the chmod command - 3 columns of read=4, write=2, execute=1 - add them, first is user, second is group, third is other) - write or read/write only by the www user. 777 permissions, requirements given by such CMS as MDPro is terrible advice and definitely not needed. btw, instead of chmod, you could use ACLs on Tiger - see this article on Ars Technica

b) runs as root (e.g. cgi-bin)

c) runs with X windows and other apps open (say rlogin - if you can write a .rhosts file to /Library/Webserver you can log in as www without needing a password... I've used .rhosts hacks on UNIX for a long time - ever since I learned I was exploited that way during my introduction to UNIX in the late 1980s - that and tucking away mini-user change executables with the 's' bit set if I'm given root for an instant - like thru an exploit).

That means you need some kind of document management/collaboration solution.

The company I work for uses SharePoint Portal Server
http://www.microsoft.com/office/sharepoint/prodinf o/default.mspx plus our own (closed source) sollution built on top of it http://www.urudata.com/intellikon/esp/index.aspx (and it catalogues and archives emails)

But there are several open source possibilities too, see http://www.opensourcecms.com/

Maybe something like iCal/LDAP address books (and logon)/open source groupware solution. That way you have standard address books for everyone (invites, etc.), as well as standard users for the groupware solution when using things like room checkout, etc.

Set up the email to use IMAP, that way everybody could access their email from their Macs as well as over the internet.

But they only show a subset of CMS's. According ot the site:
"There are a number of reasons why many CMS's aren't featured at opensourceCMS.com. The main reason being we only deal with php/mysql systems. If it's not php/mysql it won't be featured here. Also, if the system requires php5 it won't be featured here, yet. " (OpenSourceCMS

So the name is misleading, as there are several excellent/powerful Open source CMS options that are not listed here becuase they are not written with PHP. Things like Plone or Liferay.

These are examples of robust, high-quality, Open Source CMS's that you will not find at that site. And it is seems a mistake for most people, when asking the question "What is the best Open Source CMS" to only consider "the best Open Source CMS's written in PHP 4."

IMHO

But they only show a subset of CMS's. According ot the site:
"There are a number of reasons why many CMS's aren't featured at opensourceCMS.com. The main reason being we only deal with php/mysql systems. If it's not php/mysql it won't be featured here. Also, if the system requires php5 it won't be featured here, yet. " (OpenSourceCMS

So the name is misleading, as there are several excellent/powerful Open source CMS options that are not listed here becuase they are not written with PHP. Things like Plone or Liferay.

These are examples of robust, high-quality, Open Source CMS's that you will not find at that site. And it is seems a mistake for most people, when asking the question "What is the best Open Source CMS" to only consider "the best Open Source CMS's written in PHP 4."

IMHO

I am going to put my plug in for Geeklog. http://geeklog.net/

I use is for the base of many commercial web sites, utilizing the WYSISYG (FCKeditor) page editor and the news manager. It provides an excellent frame work for developing sites on top of, especially if you need a basic website with some extras thrown in.

It also runs sites such as http://www.groklaw.net/ and http://worldmusiccentral.org/

By changing the templates or config to eliminate links to the parts you do not need, (example, links pages, polls, etc), you can use the user login, edit, and admin parts to allow your web clients to edit their own pages, saving you the trouble and saving them money in the long run. The templates are completely separate from the code, allowing you to design graphics for the site separate from the code.

Updates are pretty easy if you keep your custom code out of the main install, a process that is pretty easy if you put your code in lib-custom.php. The code is well written and clear enough for a person with basic php knowledge to hack if they like

The software is all php/mysql and run efficiently on most linux shared hosts. There are also a wide variety of plugins.

The forum and developers are responsive to support requests.

just my two cents from a fan of geeklog,

it is also available for demo at http://opensourcecms.com/

I found the http://www.opensourcecms.com/ site to be invaluable when choosing a replacement CMS for my site. Its demos and resource links were very, very helpful. In a relatively short time, I was able to browse and try a number of CMS options. once I came up with a "short list", it was just a matter of following the links to the various CMS sites, downloading the installation packages, and testing them out. (That is what took the time!.

http://www.opensourcecms.com/ works as a nice Sandbox environment that auto-refreshes every hour or so (ie: each CMS is automatically reset to a clean install, so though you lose anything you try out, you can't mess things up.)

It's a great way to get an initial feel for various CMS's in one tight place.

-Jim
http://gmailtips.com/

I found the http://www.opensourcecms.com/ site to be invaluable when choosing a replacement CMS for my site. Its demos and resource links were very, very helpful. In a relatively short time, I was able to browse and try a number of CMS options. once I came up with a "short list", it was just a matter of following the links to the various CMS sites, downloading the installation packages, and testing them out. (That is what took the time!.

http://www.opensourcecms.com/ works as a nice Sandbox environment that auto-refreshes every hour or so (ie: each CMS is automatically reset to a clean install, so though you lose anything you try out, you can't mess things up.)

It's a great way to get an initial feel for various CMS's in one tight place.

-Jim
http://gmailtips.com/

Checkout http://www.opensourcecms.com/. Very usefull, you can try many of them, without installing.

Another good resource for choosing an open source cms is this site. There, you can try most of the CMS offerings that are available.

http://www.opensourcecms.com/

and if that isn't good enough you can go try it and others out over at Open Source CMS. This was my method for determining what CMS I'd be using for various projects. It is a _GREAT_ resource.

OpenSourceCMS is a good resource as well. With lots of demos to try out.

And it's partially for that reason that I'd advise people to stick with an open source solution. Not for philosophic reasons so much, but because you can make your own changes.

It's not one of those things where open-source advocates talk about the benefits of being able to rewrite sections of your kernel, either. You don't need to be much of a programmer. If you're already writing your own HTML and such, it isn't much of a jump to alter a little PHP here and there.

So if you think you might want to, at some point, dig in a little and customize your weblog, I wouldn't go the closed-source route. I'd basically say that, all things being equal, Wordpress is the way to go. It seems well-supported and feature-rich, and there's a pretty big community behind it. However, try a few out before you commit. OpenSourceCMS gives live demos of both the public and admin sections of both Wordpress and Textpattern, so try them both and make up your own mind. Hell, they're free, so you can even download them, set them up, and try things out.

I would highly recommend kicking the tires on mFusion. Perhaps it hasn't shown up on many radars but I suspect that's going to change.

I spent the better part of a month going through the laundry list of CMS solutions at the very handy OpenSourceCMS and was having trouble finding a clear solution. Almost by accident, I found mFusion after testing PHP-Fusion 6 which it is based on.

IMHO, mFusion seems tight and efficient at what it does and is forgiving to both the first time CMS admin *cough* as well as newbie content creators accustomed to doing things offline. You can keep only the locales you will need for content and then create things separately from there. A single drop down panel controls which language content is created in. The same appears for users and their view while on the site.

On the flip side, it does seem like a 'two-tree' solution in that you are creating the same content 'X' number of times in each language. A summary panel is provided that can help audit what has been created and in which language. I'm still testing an installation for English and Russian users but so far it has been the ideal, customizable solution for my needs.

PHP-Fusion gets a nod for the real muscle here, but the modifications found in mFusion are a must try when shopping for a multilingual CMS.

Start with http://www.opensourcecms.com/ and have a look at all the various packages listed there. They don't list all available programs, but what they do list are demonstrated there as well.

All packages are required to be coded in PHP, however if you want to start looking at other languages (like perl or ASP) then I suggest looking at HotScripts.com and checking out whats listed in the lists there.

Failing those, how about a google search for multi-lingual CMS packages?

http://www.cmsmatrix.org/matrix/cms-matrix?func=vi ewDetail&listingId=VwUTL75eyPbKiKAxG3cbKA

Following site allows you to test out live demos of open source CMS products, no login or registration required:

http://opensourcecms.com/

http://www.opensourcecms.com/

While it only has php CMS it is a good place to start. This site has a demo of most of the CMS out there. You can try them and then a couple of hours later they will all be reset.

Here are my recomendations:
*Mambo - If you are trying to create a website.
*phpNuke (etc) - If you want a community site.
*Typo3, Phone(python) - If you have a larger site that needs more management, mulitple departments etc.

OpenSourceCMS.com: Try before you.. install.

I use Textpattern for my security site, Security Engine. It is a bit awkward at first, but is a very nice CMS once you learn the basics of it.

Check out http://www.opensourcecms.com/ I really dig Mambo.. they take the firefox approach and make a solid CMS infrastructure with the basic features most people need and the community creates components/modules to extend that functionality... some free, some not.

This site was great when I started reviewing CMS. Basically it nukes the demos every 2 hours (so people can't stuff them up to much) and allows you to do almost anything with them.

From what you've described you may want groupware more than CMS.

My favourite simple CMS is Mambo but that's just me.

http://www.opensourcecms.com/

I saw a good site that had allowed you to test drive the admin interface of many popular CMS software.

http://www.opensourcecms.com/

Personally, I use e107, but its missing a built in photo gallery. Most family sites want to share pictures. Also the banner ad's are a little weak, and theming could be easier. But all around, I like it better than Drupal.

The last phpnuke I used was hacked in a day, so I stay away from that. If I download the latest you would expect it to have all the security updates, but it doesnt. Easier manual updates would be nice.

Amazing, that no family oriented CMS type software exists.

My first mod parent up post, I feel so ashamed.

I've got to give it to Exponent, it's a great system to work with. I'm working on moving an intranet portal away from a propriety system to Exponent. The only feature loss, moving to Exponent, was pop-up menus for site navigation, but being OSS a quick bit of hackery and I got the PHP Layers Menu integrated. Good features, easy to install, easy to admin, easy to modify, and easy to use.

And to karma whore Open Source CMS.org has links and demos of just about every CMS.

hit OpenSourceCMS and go through the lists - most have online demos available so you can play with them. :)

In fact it is not even in the top 10 of modern CMS. Check this for the list: http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=cont ent&task=view&id=388&Itemid=143

http://www.opensourcecms.com/

A very handy site that allows you to work with live demos as either an administrator or a regular user. And it's kept up to date with the latest versions of the CMS's.

For those after a good content management system for their site (and can't be bothered to make their own) check OpenSourceCMS.com for live demo's of about two dozen open source CMS systems scripts.

Click "Portals (CMS)" in the crappy tree menu on the left and then each CMS has a demo link. Here is the Drupal demo (login: admin/demo).

They also have blog script demos up - such as Wordpress

For those after a good content management system for their site (and can't be bothered to make their own) check OpenSourceCMS.com for live demo's of about two dozen open source CMS systems scripts.

Click "Portals (CMS)" in the crappy tree menu on the left and then each CMS has a demo link. Here is the Drupal demo (login: admin/demo).

They also have blog script demos up - such as Wordpress

For those after a good content management system for their site (and can't be bothered to make their own) check OpenSourceCMS.com for live demo's of about two dozen open source CMS systems scripts.

Click "Portals (CMS)" in the crappy tree menu on the left and then each CMS has a demo link. Here is the Drupal demo (login: admin/demo).

They also have blog script demos up - such as Wordpress