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Are you sure there isn't another reason why SLC has it's own SEC office?

I'm not sure about the availability of any specific services for this. Your best bet is to contact someone w/ a lot of experience in this sort of thing.

One organization I have ties to used to have separate camps of Quark and PageMaker users (pretty weird as it was a rather small organization!) but last September decided to ditch both in favor of InDesign, partly because it was easier to just pick up Creative Suite.

Yes, some old-timers bitched and moaned, but InDesign has worked out well for their modest needs. I've actually thought of trying to reproduce some of their templates in Apple's "Pages" but haven't done so yet.

SCO is the only one they plan to support at this time.

The SCO Group, Inc. (SCO) is a provider of software solutions for small- to medium-sized businesses (SMBs) and replicated branch offices. SCO solutions include UNIX platforms; messaging, authentication, and e-business tools; and services that include technical support, education, consulting, and solution provider support programs.

Based in Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide presence with representation in 82 countries. This infrastructure enables SCO to provide local support and dependable solutions to businesses around the world. In addition, SCO has a channel of more than 11,000 solution providers, a developer network of nearly 8,000, thousands of direct account customers and an installed base of more than two million systems.

SCO solutions are divided into three broad areas: operating systems, extended platform and services.

Contact Us
Please bookmark our home page HERE Europe, Middle East, India, Africa and Pacific Rim +44(0)1923-813 600

The SCO Group, Inc. (SCO) is a provider of software solutions for small- to medium-sized businesses (SMBs) and replicated branch offices. SCO solutions include UNIX platforms; messaging, authentication, and e-business tools; and services that include technical support, education, consulting, and solution provider support programs.

Based in Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide presence with representation in 82 countries. This infrastructure enables SCO to provide local support and dependable solutions to businesses around the world. In addition, SCO has a channel of more than 11,000 solution providers, a developer network of nearly 8,000, thousands of direct account customers and an installed base of more than two million systems.

SCO solutions are divided into three broad areas: operating systems, extended platform and services.

Contact Us
Please bookmark our home page HERE Europe, Middle East, India, Africa and Pacific Rim +44(0)1923-813 600

The SCO Group, Inc. (SCO) is a provider of software solutions for small- to medium-sized businesses (SMBs) and replicated branch offices. SCO solutions include UNIX platforms; messaging, authentication, and e-business tools; and services that include technical support, education, consulting, and solution provider support programs.

Based in Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide presence with representation in 82 countries. This infrastructure enables SCO to provide local support and dependable solutions to businesses around the world. In addition, SCO has a channel of more than 11,000 solution providers, a developer network of nearly 8,000, thousands of direct account customers and an installed base of more than two million systems.

SCO solutions are divided into three broad areas: operating systems, extended platform and services.

Contact Us
Please bookmark our home page HERE for quick access to the latest information on all SCO products and services. Click HERE to purchase products. To become a SCO reseller, please click HERE. SCO may be reached using one of the following options:

• Email: info@sco.com
• Web: http://www.sco.com/company/feedback/
• Tel. (801) 765-4999

Support Services
For information on support service options, contact your product supplier or SCO directly.

SCO Worldwide Support Services
SCO offers a broad portfolio of technical support services tailored to the needs of partners, corporate accounts and end users. With support centers located in North America, Europe and Asia Pacific, staffed by SCO's highly skilled support engineers and local language support availability, SCO can meet all our customer support service requirements.

The SCO Group, Inc. (SCO) is a provider of software solutions for small- to medium-sized businesses (SMBs) and replicated branch offices. SCO solutions include UNIX platforms; messaging, authentication, and e-business tools; and services that include technical support, education, consulting, and solution provider support programs.

Based in Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide presence with representation in 82 countries. This infrastructure enables SCO to provide local support and dependable solutions to businesses around the world. In addition, SCO has a channel of more than 11,000 solution providers, a developer network of nearly 8,000, thousands of direct account customers and an installed base of more than two million systems.

SCO solutions are divided into three broad areas: operating systems, extended platform and services.

Contact Us
Please bookmark our home page HERE for quick access to the latest information on all SCO products and services. Click HERE to purchase products. To become a SCO reseller, please click HERE. SCO may be reached using one of the following options:

• Email: info@sco.com
• Web: http://www.sco.com/company/feedback/
• Tel. (801) 765-4999

Support Services
For information on support service options, contact your product supplier or SCO directly.

SCO Worldwide Support Services
SCO offers a broad portfolio of technical support services tailored to the needs of partners, corporate accounts and end users. With support centers located in North America, Europe and Asia Pacific, staffed by SCO's highly skilled support engineers and local language support availability, SCO can meet all our customer support service requirements.

The SCO Group, Inc. (SCO) is a provider of software solutions for small- to medium-sized businesses (SMBs) and replicated branch offices. SCO solutions include UNIX platforms; messaging, authentication, and e-business tools; and services that include technical support, education, consulting, and solution provider support programs.

Based in Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide presence with representation in 82 countries. This infrastructure enables SCO to provide local support and dependable solutions to businesses around the world. In addition, SCO has a channel of more than 11,000 solution providers, a developer network of nearly 8,000, thousands of direct account customers and an installed base of more than two million systems.

SCO solutions are divided into three broad areas: operating systems, extended platform and services.

Contact Us
Please bookmark our home page HERE for quick access to the latest information on all SCO products and services. Click HERE to purchase products. To become a SCO reseller, please click HERE. SCO may be reached using one of the following options:

• Email: info@sco.com
• Web: http://www.sco.com/company/feedback/
• Tel. (801) 765-4999

Support Services
For information on support service options, contact your product supplier or SCO directly.

SCO Worldwide Support Services
SCO offers a broad portfolio of technical support services tailored to the needs of partners, corporate accounts and end users. With support centers located in North America, Europe and Asia Pacific, staffed by SCO's highly skilled support engineers and local language support availability, SCO can meet all our customer support service requirements.

The SCO Group, Inc. (SCO) is a provider of software solutions for small- to medium-sized businesses (SMBs) and replicated branch offices. SCO solutions include UNIX platforms; messaging, authentication, and e-business tools; and services that include technical support, education, consulting, and solution provider support programs.

Based in Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide presence with representation in 82 countries. This infrastructure enables SCO to provide local support and dependable solutions to businesses around the world. In addition, SCO has a channel of more than 11,000 solution providers, a developer network of nearly 8,000, thousands of direct account customers and an installed base of more than two million systems.

SCO solutions are divided into three broad areas: operating systems, extended platform and services.

Contact Us
Please bookmark our home page HERE for quick access to the latest information on all SCO products and services. Click HERE to purchase products. To become a SCO reseller, please click HERE. SCO may be reached using one of the following options:

• Email: info@sco.com
• Web: http://www.sco.com/company/feedback/
• Tel. (801) 765-4999

Support Services
For information on support service options, contact your product supplier or SCO directly.

SCO Worldwide Support Services
SCO offers a broad portfolio of technical support services tailored to the needs of partners, corporate accounts and end users. With support centers located in North America, Europe and Asia Pacific, staffed by SCO's highly skilled support engineers and local language support availability, SCO can meet all our customer support service requirements.

About SCO
The SCO Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: SCOX) helps millions of customers to grow
their businesses everyday. Headquartered in Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide
network of thousands of resellers and developers. SCO Global Services
provides reliable localized support and services to partners and customers.
For more information on SCO products and services, visit http://www.sco.com./

Thousands of resellers and developers. Millions of customers. Doesn't sound like the SCO I know...anymore.

Especially of interest here is the use of Netfilter by Cymphonix, given Harald Welte involvement in both Netfilter and in the in dealing with GPL violations.

To add to the fun, it even appears that Cymphonix is either using or preparing to use 2.6.x versions of Linux.

LINDON, Utah, June 1 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The SCO Group, Inc.
(Nasdaq: SCOX), owner of the UNIX operating system and a leading provider of
UNIX-based solutions, today reported results for its fiscal second quarter
ended April 30, 2005.
Revenue for the second quarter of fiscal year 2005 was $9,258,000 as
compared to $10,137,000 from the comparable quarter of the prior year. The
decrease in revenue in the second quarter of fiscal year 2005 from the
comparable quarter of the prior year was primarily due to continued
competitive pressures on the Company's UNIX products and services.
The net loss attributable to common stockholders for the second quarter of
fiscal year 2005 was $1,962,000, or ($0.11) per diluted common share, as
compared to a net loss attributable to common stockholders of $14,726,000, or
($1.04) per diluted common share for the comparable quarter of the prior year.
"Our core UNIX business remained profitable in the second quarter as
expected, and we increased revenue over the prior quarter as a result of
improved performance across all geographies," said Darl McBride, President and
CEO, The SCO Group. "We have continued to focus our UNIX business on
commercial success in the market place and look forward to launching SCO
OpenServer 6 later this month. At the same time, our SCOsource business
remains committed to pursuing our legal strategy in the courtroom, and we are
well-positioned to see our litigation through to its conclusion."
Revenue for the first two quarters of fiscal year 2005 was $18,123,000 as
compared to $21,529,000 from the first two quarters of fiscal year 2004. The
net loss attributable to common stockholders for the first two quarters of
fiscal year 2005 was $4,923,000, or ($0.28) per diluted common share, as
compared to a net loss attributable to common stockholders of $17,212,000, or
($1.23) per diluted common share for the first two quarters of fiscal year
2004. Cash and cash equivalents and available-for-sale securities were
$14,192,000 at April 30, 2005. In addition, $3,967,000 remains in an escrow
account and is classified as a component of restricted cash as of April 30,
2005, that will be used to pay for certain expenses associated with our
litigation.

UNIX Business
The Company plans to release SCO OpenServer 6 on June 22, 2005 at an event
for SCO's software and hardware partners, customers, and members of the media
and analyst community in New York City.
SCO OpenServer 6 has been a multi-year, multi-million dollar development
effort and is the most significant upgrade in the product's history. The
product has been designed to provide customers with increased performance and
security enhancements, access to numerous applications, and integrates many
popular Open Source technologies. The product has been in active pre-release
testing since the beginning of the year with many of the Company's leading SCO
OpenServer customers and has been favorably received.

Trolltech AS
On March 14, 2005, SCO sold shares of Trolltech AS it had owned since 1999
in a private transaction for total proceeds of $779,100. The Company
accounted for the sale and proceeds of the sale as a component of other income
in its second quarter and year-to-date statements of operations.

Conference Call
As previously announced, The SCO Group will host a conference call at
5:00 p.m. EDT today, June 1, 2005 to discuss its second quarter results. To
participate in the teleconference, please call 800-818-5264 or 913-981-4910;
confirmation code: 4988956, approximately five minutes prior to the time
stated above. A listen-only Web cast of the call will be broadcast live with
a replay available the following day. The Web cast and replay may be accessed
from http://ir

My read is that this is a pathetic attempt to link "Linux" and "union" in the minds of IT management. The article is absurd on it's face. It relys on a redefinition of the words "Linux" and "union" in order to make it work, thus rending the entire ridiculous screed meaningless.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."

-- Lewis Carroll, "Alice Through The Looking Glass"

I'll reply to my own post :)

This seems a little confusing/concerning. I think its well intentioned but if the code is licenseed as GPL how can it be under the restrictions that these claims only apply to the kernel. Suppose I want to go use kernel code in my own open source code and this code is covered by the patent, all of the sudden the GPL code is not GPL'able.

I really don't think this has alot of legal teeth - I think its more just them saying that in spirit, they're not going to sue us. Lets not foret that companies go down the dark path

But not as interesting as the Long-nosed Snake. More info here.

Linux users and administrators need to learn two things:

1. That they are ILLEGALY using stolen code to run their businesses. This is just plain wrong and they need to be paying their license fees lest they get their asses sued by SCO.

2. That there are better and more cost effective solutions for running a business than using Linux.

GET THE FACTS!

"Via google news, whilst doing butt-clenches, feeling guilty having had extra marmalade on my toast this morning, I found an article at MSNBC...

In future, please just give us the relevant links. The editors around here are so bad they don't even notice people giving out about them. Editors sans narcissism, what will they think of next?

Everybody knows that The SCO Group created Linux

Oh, wait...

Oh, that's right, I forgot. There's no way anybody could ever use a unix variant for evil, right?

As long as you believe schools are for education, there's no justification for only teaching one system, no matter what it is. The more students learn the better. They need to have *ux/ix side by side with Windows and MacOS, and they need to learn all three.

has to be these pricks

In Darl's infamous open letter, he clearly defines the combatants:

Despite the raw emotions, however, the issue is clear: do you support copyrights and ownership of intellectual property as envisioned by our elected officials in Congress and the European Union, or do you support "free" - as in free from ownership - intellectual property envisioned by the Free Software Foundation, Red Hat and others? There really is no middle ground. The future of the global economy hangs in the balance.

This is not a disinterested "I'm just thinking about my shareholders" approach. After bringing in discussion about competing interpretations of the Constitution, Darl ends the monologue with this:

We take these actions secure in the knowledge that our system of copyright laws is built on the foundation of the U.S. Constitution and that our rights will be protected under law. We do so knowing that those who believe "software should be free" cannot prevail against the U.S. Congress and voices of seven U.S. Supreme Court justices who believe that "the motive of profit is the engine that ensures the progress of science."

The stated intent of SCO is to eliminate free software, because SCO views the mere existence of free software as incompatible with the U.S. Constitution. To me that's about as extreme a position as you can take, given that nowhere in the Constitution does it say that creators are not free to give away their works as they see fit.

What happens if the author removes all the links to the sourcecode though, are you legally entitled to ask for it?

Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,

And there's always the wayback machine, the internet archive, etc ...

There you go. See how well that works? Now your searches won't return all of my "How to steal ideas for fun and profit" sites.

Now it occurs to me that you may *want*, for research purposes, say, search for untrusted sites, so that should be a search parameter.

Looks like ISO downloads would be out the window. Someone once told me that using Linux was piracy.

Connectiva and Mandrake merge.

How about Con-Man?

No, wait, crap. There's already a Con-Man Linux distro.

Connectiva and Mandrake merge.

How about Con-Man?

No, wait, crap. There's already a Con-Man Linux distro.

what are the odds Rockstar sues?

Just because some companies always sue doesn't mean it's correct. They mostly do it because they know the people they sue has no chance of defending themselves. Well, SCO may have picked the wrong target.

Don't worry, it's been proved to be fake :).

For more details, check out the real owners of the Unix clone ...

SCO thought ESR would just let it fly to use the FUD entry of the Jargon file to further their claims back in 2003. SCO: See also Bzzt! Wrong.

I've been calling out sick from work the past week due to not being able to stop reading all I can about this latest Groklaw vs. SCO drama, so I figured I'd provide some good additional reading material to my fellow female Slashdot readers.

This is a great time to mention the new Tom's Hardware article featuring Groklaw's heart and brain, Pamela Jones. She's a sweet girl who's as intelligent as she is attractive and sits down with the guys from THG to share all the dirt about Groklaw and SCO. The URL to the article is http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050322_0430 01.html.

Also, check out http://www.sco.com/scoip/. It's SCO's answer to Groklaw and they claim that it's "The Right Place for SCO Intellectual Property Information" implying that Groklaw is anti-SCO biased. The contents of the site are legal filings from the following:
- SCO v. IBM
- SCO v. Novell
- SCO v. AutoZone
- SCO v. Daimler Chrysler
- Red Hat v. SCO

Enjoy these links and please keep Terry in your thoughts and prayers this Easter weekend.

I think all the people who think that the summary is evidence of the ignorance and racism of those of us in the US need to examine their own souls for racism. It seems to be the filter through which they view the world. Look at anything that way long enough, and you'll find whatever you're looking for even when it's not there.

Now, I'm not going to argue that there is no ignorance or racism in the US, or even on Slashdot, just that the headline isn't evidence of it. Making elliptical references to famous people/events/things in the headlines of stories seems to be a common thing on slashdot. I often see things like A certain large software company or A certain famous litigation company And there was this election recently. Maybe you've heard of it? People do that when you're expected to get the reference, not when it's expected to get past you.

Apple are now offcially litigious bastards in my book. They'll just have to share the title with the other litigious bastards. I wonder how long before they start claiming to own KDE and Gnome.

SCO Ranked #1 Corporate Query Site by Google. Based on billions of searches conducted by Google users around the world, the 2004 Year-End Zeitgeist ranks SCO's corporate Website as the most searched site for the year

Utah correctional facilities show considerable interests in SCO product line by inviting Darl McBride to its facilities

SCO is not just IP litigation company, they started out as a UNIX porting and consulting company.
The analogy is very similar IMHO.

From the site of the devil himself: http://www.sco.com/company/history.html

1979 SCO founded as The Santa Cruz Operation by Doug and Larry Michels as a UNIX® system porting and consulting company.

1983 SCO delivers the first packaged UNIX System (called SCO® XENIX® System V) for Intel® 8086 and 8088 processor-based PCs. It provides small businesses with the first affordable business-critical computing system.

If I had a lawsuit for everytime someone would say this, I'd be one litigious bastard. :P

Yeah, but they certainly wouldn't be the first company to commit a public farce in order to increase the wealth of existing shareholders, especially if they looked at the fruit of all their R&D and realized that, for all the money that was invested in them, they had nothing.

If it sounds too good to be true... (you know the rest).

Okay, you admitted it. Before you get your refund, please go here so you can first pay for it.

Don't you mean litigious bastards

To tell if a company is evil is pretty easy:

• Does Bill Gates own it?
• Are they called "Microsoft"
• Can they be found on Google by entering Bastards

I'm probably missing a few there, but you get the point.

Let's face it, ever since Douggy's Dad had to resign for sexually harrassing the staff, SCO has had the whiff of being a shitty little disreputable bunch of corner crack monkeys lucky enough to be sitting on a product that people would actually pay to make and improve for them.

This SCO is not the company formerly known as the Santa Cruz Operation. That company sold its Unix operation to Caldera and then renamed itself Tarantella after its current main product.

Caldera renamed itself to The SCO Group and then decided that they wern't a Linux company anymore, they were a Unix company. Of course, they aren't a Unix company anymore either - they only seem to exit to sue other companies now.

I think you meant "litigious bastards"

Just for giggles, notice that Yahoo's notice for SCO Form 8K here says that SCO issued a press release in connection with the notification on February 17, 2005... SCO's "Press release" is only a reissue of the notice itself (as published on PR NewsWire). Keep your eye on the card... Watch the card... {POOF!}

I'll post the final version ...

Hey Regis, Let's Make A Deal(TM): I'll sell you your last comment to you if you can guess which door leeds to Microsoft:
Door 1
Door 2
Door 3a
Door 3b

and I thought you were kidding because I immediately read the "S" as "Sucks" and then read the rest of the letters together. But, nope, SCOX is the right symbol.

You are very right. Good example from their website:
SCO Ranked #1 Corporate Query Site by Google. Based on billions of searches conducted by Google users around the world, the 2004 Year-End Zeitgeist ranks SCO's corporate Website as the most searched site for the year.

Like people searched for SCO to buy their products.

Microsoft has had finanical dealings with SCO and AdTI when both were making baseless and sweeping claims against Linux. Are there any other groups that you pay to attack Linux that you would like to tell us about before they come out in court?

Following my own link and reading a bit more it seems that Apple has already addressed issues like Web Services and even Patent litigation against the licensor (Apple).

Regarding Services (Major Changes in Apple Public Source License 2.0):

1. Licensees will only be required to release source code of Modifications they "Externally Deploy" (new Section 1.4, and Sections 2.1, 2.2). "External Deployment" is defined to cover the external distribution of APSL'ed code or use of APSL'ed code to provide a service (including content delivery) to a third party through electronic communication with that party.

Regarding Patent Litigation:

5. The Termination clause relating to patent suits (Section 12.1(c)) has been narrowed such that the license will terminate only if a licensee _initiates_ an action for patent infringement against Apple. It will not terminate in cases where Apple first sues the licensee and they file a countersuit.

So #5 seems to cover litigious bastards such as the SCO Group, except only for patent litigation. It'd be interesting if at some point this was updated to include copyright infringement litigation as well. And #1 seems to cover Web Services. Maybe Mr. Moglen will reference the APSL in revising the GPL.

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Clearly, the answer is to avoid Linux altogether since you'll just have to buy a license anyway.

I highly recommend going straight to the source for the be-all, end-all "Linux" - Unixware.

After all, if you're looking for stability, security, et al, then wouldn't you want to get the "real deal" rather than some hacked-up, 3rd-party, pirated crud that you probably can't trust anyway? Even Microsoft says it's crap.

If you're truly looking for an enterprise-ready system with the best balance of stability, high-level support options, security, rapid updates, I suggest you look to OS/2 Warp

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Clearly, the answer is to avoid Linux altogether since you'll just have to buy a license anyway.

I highly recommend going straight to the source for the be-all, end-all "Linux" - Unixware.

After all, if you're looking for stability, security, et al, then wouldn't you want to get the "real deal" rather than some hacked-up, 3rd-party, pirated crud that you probably can't trust anyway? Even Microsoft says it's crap.

If you're truly looking for an enterprise-ready system with the best balance of stability, high-level support options, security, rapid updates, I suggest you look to OS/2 Warp

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