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Re:Catholic != papist
Melinda's in trouble with the church now. http://m.smh.com.au/world/faith-in-contraception-puts-gates-on-collision-course-with-the-vatican-20120712-21yx7.html Now is the time when the faith of her convictions will be tested. Being a catholic has always been a problem for intelligent women.
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Re:It's coming, even though we don't want it
So much for a fucking democracy. Virtually none of us want this and yet it'll still get passed.
And what the fuck is going on here: the same politicians who want all of our secrets are keeping mum when it comes to themselves:
Web snooping policy shrouded in secrecy
No Minister: 90% of web snoop document censored to stop 'premature unnecessary debate'How the FUCK did we end up in this bizarro world?
By not doing anything.
You want change? go make change, namely, get the right people in office, any way you can.
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Re:It's coming, even though we don't want it
So much for a fucking democracy. Virtually none of us want this and yet it'll still get passed.
And what the fuck is going on here: the same politicians who want all of our secrets are keeping mum when it comes to themselves:
Web snooping policy shrouded in secrecy
No Minister: 90% of web snoop document censored to stop 'premature unnecessary debate'How the FUCK did we end up in this bizarro world?
By not doing anything.
You want change? go make change, namely, get the right people in office, any way you can.
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It's coming, even though we don't want it
So much for a fucking democracy. Virtually none of us want this and yet it'll still get passed.
And what the fuck is going on here: the same politicians who want all of our secrets are keeping mum when it comes to themselves:
Web snooping policy shrouded in secrecy
No Minister: 90% of web snoop document censored to stop 'premature unnecessary debate'How the FUCK did we end up in this bizarro world?
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It's coming, even though we don't want it
So much for a fucking democracy. Virtually none of us want this and yet it'll still get passed.
And what the fuck is going on here: the same politicians who want all of our secrets are keeping mum when it comes to themselves:
Web snooping policy shrouded in secrecy
No Minister: 90% of web snoop document censored to stop 'premature unnecessary debate'How the FUCK did we end up in this bizarro world?
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Re:UK did not extradite...
"If you're referring to Julian Assange, the US has brought no charges that are really crimes."
not true, they're just secret charges:
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/revealed-us-plans-to-charge-assange-20120228-1u14o.html -
Re:C'mon
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Popular reactionhttp://www.smh.com.au/national/letters/media-ownership-not-the-right-way-to-steer-debate-20120619-20m1s.html?skin=text-only
Scroll down to "A fool's paradise" to see an example of the fucking curmudgeons that this will drive out of the woodwork.
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Re:This chip is so fast
This chip is so fast
...that Japan or China will not lose the chance to show a bigger dick.
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Re:Not surprising
While NYC is somewhat expensive it's by no means the most expensive on the planet:
33rd this year down from 32nd last year (according to the annual Mercer study).
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Re:American fluid dynamicists did it first!
Twelve years ago an almost identical paper was on the office wall of a chemical engineering professor I had in college. I'm mostly kidding with my subject line - I expect there's novelty in the new paper and just want to point out that this has been used as a model system (probably many times) before now.
I believe you are referring to Md Nurul Hasan Khan. In 1999 he published a paper proving Guinness bubbles fall. As far as I know he was the first.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/19/1079199418340.html
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Re:HP should buy them
...they're doing far better than any single competitor in the smartphone arena...
Except Samsung.
http://gigaom.com/apple/samsung-probably-sold-the-most-smartphones-in-2011/
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/samsung-beats-apple-smartphone-sales-20120427-1xq29.html -
Re:Dear Australia...
Allow free importation of goods from the US and other markets and watch the vendor premiums for your mysterious island continent collapse. If Australians could simply buy from Adobe US, It'd be pretty difficult for Adobe to maintain a price premium...
I hope this is intended to be sarcastic. Firstly, Australia already has a Free Trade Agreement with the United States. Secondly, the reason I can't buy from Adobe US, or Steam US, or iTunes US, or Whatever US has nothing to do with the government, but that each of those respective entities won't let me purchase from them and will refuse to accept my Australian credit card and billing address. Why? So they can slug me a 200% markup on the Australian store, despite $1AUD frequently exceeding $1 USD. The massive marking up of digital products downloaded over the internet is not the fault of the government.
Y'know why vendors price their goods absurdly high in Australia? Because they can.
And because international retailers selling products to Australians online are colluding with domestic retailers to raise prices or eliminate online sales entirely. From that article:
THERE are growing calls for Australia's competition watchdog to conduct an inquiry into local apparel distributors who are preventing overseas suppliers from selling their products to Australian consumers on international websites or instructing them to increase their web prices. The calls come after The Age last week revealed that a growing number of Australian fashion importers and wholesalers are reaching agreements with international brands to lift prices or cease shipping here.
In Australia, retailers will frequently impose 300-400% markups on items found easily online. That is why an inquiry is needed.
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Re:Broadcast rights
So unless you're employed by a big-media dinosaur you should welcome Optus putting the cat among the pigeons.
Bollocks, the only feasible outcome from Optus' being successful is more restrictive copyright law which is bad for everyone except the "big-media dinosaurs".
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Re:Original source please?Noise? What noise? It's about terrorism, Ozzies sleep undisturbed on this account.
Attorney General's press conference:
Q:And if I could also ask the Attorney-General, this kind of increased intelligence cooperation tends to also lead to increased sharing of the information of Australians [unclear] information on Australian citizens. Have we seen today with the signing of these agreements, will more information be shared between the two countries?
NICOLA ROXON: Thank you. Look, when we say that we want to increase and improve cooperation, of course it still means that we will do that within the constraints of our laws, which means that information is shared where it meets particular thresholds. Of course we have for a long time and will continue to share information with other partners when someone is involved or we fear is involved in criminal activity. That sort of information, I think Australian citizens expect us to share with others. But there are very tight constraints around what can and can't be shared.
This agreement doesn't change that. But what it means is that we can continue to cooperate very closely in sharing where there are risks, what trends change, whether there are people of particular interest. And the US and Australia and our law enforcement agencies have had very strong partnerships for a long time. This enhances in an environment where we have new threats, new risks, more online activity, more information that's obtained, more transnational crime which relies on activity that might travel through different countries. We need to be aware of all of that and that's why we want to keep working so closely with the US in improving those relationships and I think these agreements today allow us to do that.
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Re:Is there a source to the article?
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/google-aware-of-data-scoop-20120429-1xsxx.html#ixzz1tTGWZTQK
With a 4.5MB pdf. All the blog/press/gov timeline in its full glory. -
Re:economics ?
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Re: It's not Fox
It is sad when submitters don't check for the best sources.
Fox news copied their story from The Syndey Morning Herald, who copied the story from The Telegraph (UK) (April 14). There is a follow up story on the Telegraph site too; the buried spitfire story was revealed by a war vet, and they found them and made bore holes and looked inside the crates.
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US cloud and .com hosts.....
Many people will be looking twice at their hosting needs, local privacy laws and new US telco laws.
The only thing the US can still offer is the word "unlimited" on cheap shared best effort servers deals.
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/cloud/what-will-you-do-when-the-us-comes-for-you-20120125-1qhc1.html
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Re:Hey Apple Users...
You are joking right? "Wndows security vulnerabilities (bugs!) allow viruses in by the truck load and they're playing with vision!? Given up on security and stability have they? I'll stay with my blind but safe Mac." Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/innovation/blogs/smoke--mirrors/the-computer-eyes-have-it-20120202-1quj8.html#ixzz1scvve7kW non-technical Mac users say that stuff all the time especially in public. They often brag about it.
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Re:The Real objective
Not plain wrong, not even vanilla wrong. If I am to be any kind wrong may it be a kind of wild fig and truffle wrong that no one likes but everyone orders when they are on a first date to appear sophisticated and worldly.
I present words of others ( Australian others) on this particular issue when talking of messages from the US leaked by wikileaks:
"“AFACT and MPAA worked hard to get Village Roadshow and the Seven Network to agree to be the public Australian faces on the case to make it clear there are Australian equities at stake, and this isn’t just Hollywood “bullying some poor little Australian ISP,” the cable quoted the US Embassy as writing.
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iiNet, the cable claimed, had been targeted because the ISP was “big enough to be important”, as the third-largest ISP in Australia. The MPAA didn’t go after Telstra, the cable claimed, because the telco was “the big guns” and had “the financial resources and demonstrated willingness to fight hard and dirty, in court and out."
http://delimiter.com.au/2011/08/30/wikileaks-cable-outs-secret-iitrial-background/
Well that does lend weight to idea that they thought they could bully, and that the financing was critical in deciding which ISP to target.
From the Sydney Morning Herald (Australian Author):
"It seems the MPAA deliberately avoided picking a fight with the more powerful Telstra, instead hoping for a quick victory against the smaller iiNet which could set a national and perhaps even international legal precedent to aid the Americans in their global fight against piracy" http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/afact-uncle-sams-puppet-in-iinet-trial-20110902-1jp4w.html
I am not alone in having formed the opinion that this matter was motivated by a desire to influence things overseas.
The references are provided so that you can see the basis from which I was representing the perceptions and intentions of the MPAA in this matter. I am going to also assume when you insisted that " you are just plain wrong" you intended that the MPAA and associated parties are just plain wrong, and that the cultural misunderstanding was on their part as well.
I did not state that Australia was singled out, we both know they weren't. I didn't state that Australia was actually the best choice either, the facts as you quite rightly pointed out, are proof of the issues with trying to slip something through in Australia. I am very proud of the efforts of the government regarding smoking (especially the ban in clubs etc) I just wish more people would quit. Thanks for the update on how that issue is progressing
Personally, I think they are barking up the wrong tree and this is not the best solution to their issue. I think this trend towards the legal department being a profit center through patents and other actions is not beneficial to markets or companies (designers and engineers have lower pay rates than lawyers).
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Re:The Real objective
Australia is a good place to do this in the eye of the MPAA because they feel that they can bully and buy the result
Bully and buy the result, in Australia? Seriously? If they thought that then they don't know Australian's, their politicians or their ISP's for that matter. As has now been borne out. 4+ years, still no result, the government hasn't stepped in and the media and public opinion is lined up against them.
By the way, you might like to ask the Tobacco companies how easy it is to bully and bribe to get a result in Australia. We are the first on the planet to introduce plain packaging laws. They've tried well funded media campaigns, astroturfing campaigns where their convinced small shop owner associations to be their mouthpiece, and are currently carrying out their threat to challenge it on constitution grounds in our law courts. They brought suits against the Australian government in foreign courts over treaty violations. Again, so far, no result. The law has passed both houses and will be enforced shortly.
That cultural misunderstanding aside, you are just plain wrong. They have tried to pull this stunt in numerous places with some success in the US, France and NZ off the top of my head. In no way was Australia singled out.
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Re:The Real objective
Australia is a good place to do this in the eye of the MPAA because they feel that they can bully and buy the result
Bully and buy the result, in Australia? Seriously? If they thought that then they don't know Australian's, their politicians or their ISP's for that matter. As has now been borne out. 4+ years, still no result, the government hasn't stepped in and the media and public opinion is lined up against them.
By the way, you might like to ask the Tobacco companies how easy it is to bully and bribe to get a result in Australia. We are the first on the planet to introduce plain packaging laws. They've tried well funded media campaigns, astroturfing campaigns where their convinced small shop owner associations to be their mouthpiece, and are currently carrying out their threat to challenge it on constitution grounds in our law courts. They brought suits against the Australian government in foreign courts over treaty violations. Again, so far, no result. The law has passed both houses and will be enforced shortly.
That cultural misunderstanding aside, you are just plain wrong. They have tried to pull this stunt in numerous places with some success in the US, France and NZ off the top of my head. In no way was Australia singled out.
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Re:Hansen Must Go
Back in the Kyoto talks, we were TOLD that if no action was taken, then the point of no return was something like 2007. Well? Based on that "science", nothing we do can help anyway.
We get predictions like that all the time. If there's anything we learned from the climategate emails, it's that a lot of the scientists working on this problem are not working in good faith.
The solution, I think, is to work on things that will help us anyway, even if AGW turns out to not be a problem. For example, improving electric car technology will be good for America, whether AGW is a big ball of hype, or whether it's real. Same with fusion electricity. We can work on those things. -
Heres a clasic example in todays press
This is the typical type of story out today being refered to:
This quality of Jornalism is driven by the need to compete with the average blogger, and the average blogger ain't to bright
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Working links to the video
From the top links from Google's video search:
Blackfella's Guide to New York - The Age
Blackfella's Guide to New York - Brisbane Times
Blackfella's Guide to New York - The Sydney Morning Herald
Apparently they all come from the same source, but well, let's look if Miss Tanya Steele now have the courtesy of showing herself in australian courts if she wants it removed from their servers.
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Oh my god
$150,000 for blocking http://media.smh.com.au/entertainment/trailer-park/blackfellas-guide-to-new-york--trailer-3148656.html ???
It looks like something made by a sincere but completely untalented college freshman.
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Re:I have no knowledge of what is patented by this
And long before that, they were trying to negotiate patent fees with the various vendors, but were ignored. The lawsuits were the last resort, and have mostly ended in the vendors settling. Revenues have been rolled back into a fund for future research. Read more here.
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You can watch it here:
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Re:Bullshit Anti-Apple Screed
Foxconn is a sub-contractor of multiple companies so really Apple should not be the fall guy.
Utter rubbish. Apple is by far the biggest beneficiary of these oppressive practices and is riding high on the hog in part because of these abuses.
Wow, Apple astroturfers hoarded away plenty of points for modbombing today.
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Re:A matter of safety
Actually, Mad Max has moved to Africa so that's no longer an issue in Australia.
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Re:Ridiculous hyperbole
Actually, I think you'll find that your assumption (that they wouldn't sue) is quite wrong. There are plenty of examples of 'big business' suing smaller brands over trademark violations. What courts will enforce is irrelevant when small businesses and individuals can't afford the legal costs to defend themselves, which is the point of these big corporations going after all and sundry.
There are plenty of examples of trademark lawsuits, sometimes the defendant fights back (and wins) but many can't afford to, least of all when the US asserts legal authority outside their own borders. Here's a couple which spring to mind:
Katy Perry files against Katie Perry: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/pop-singer-sues-our-katie-perry-20090704-d8fc.html McDonalds loses to McCurry: http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/04/29/us-courts-mcdonalds-idUSTRE53S6G120090429 The Hobbit Pub: http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/12/03/14/016231/the-hobbit-pub-threatened-with-lawsuit Ugg boots: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/blogs/threadny/THREAD-Ugg-Suing-Emu-Over-Trademark-111665149.html
There are PLENTY more.
Now, that's from companies that actually have a registered trademark. Companies like facebook 'priming' their T&Cs is the start of something bad. I'm not saying there should be a T&Cs regulator (by the way, thanks for putting words in my mouth) - I'm simply thinking that dictionary words shouldn't be OWNED. Common sense should prevail. Context matters. -
Re:Oh no! National interest trumping the Free Mark
G'day Clive, you fat bastard! How are your "Greens are a CIA plot" claims working out for you?
Clive's clearly a loon, but he's just a symptom of the problem.
Check each of the links below and ask yourself "Would this be happening in a country where the actions of the government are in the best interests of its people".
Let me know your answer. I'll be interested.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-21/australians-pay-highest-power-prices-says-study/3904024
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3460798.htm
http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/03/21/official-australia-the-best-place-for-miners-in-the-world-again/
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/billionaires-grow-fat-off-lazy-government-20120321-1vij7.html -
Re:Apple Customers
In the 12 weeks to August 7 2011, 42.9 per cent of smartphones sold in Australia were Android phones compared to 37.2 per cent for Apple's offerings, new figures from Kantar's ComTech WorldPanel reveal. Kantar's statistics are based on regular interviews with a panel of 10,000 Australians.
The recent rapid rise of Android in Australia mirrors trends seen overseas and serves to explain some of the recent animosity between Apple and Android phone users.
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Re:No reason to use it?
I don't follow their execs all that closely (I'd recognize the names of the two founders, but that's about it), but Googling those two led me to this article which mentions both and certainly doesn't call your conclusions into question.
And, within certain limits simply described as "timidity where the commission of felonies is concerned," I'd probably land comfortably within the circles described by your second paragraph, so I'm not going to throw stones.
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Not New?
Didn't the father of that girl who was the victim of that collar bomb hoax in Australia run a company which sells software which does stuff like this?
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Re:Consider me fired.
Infants can't be vaccinated immediately, but they're susceptible to disease. Some people have health problems that prevent them from being vaccinated. If my child died as a result of a preventable disease that they contracted while too young to be vaccinated and I found out they were infected by an the child of an anti-vax nutjob I think I'd have little choice but to kill the anti-vax parents. I'm quite sure I'd have a hard time staying my hand. People who are that anti-social and selfish don't deserve to live.
You mean like this Australian family who's baby died before it could be vaccinated and then they where harassed by anti-vac nutjobs.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/antivaccine-group-a-threat-20100726-10smn.html?rand=1280210266036
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We don't want groundwater, it traps precious gas!
Some coal seam gas wells must evacuate water from the great artesian basin for years before they can have anywhere near productive gas yields. Around the Injune area, I've seen these mind-bogglingly huge evaporation ponds - actually trying to transfer precious groundwater back into the sky
And although I've heard Santos are trying hard to make their reverse-osmosis plants work (that would be trying to pump water out of the aquifers at the gas extraction wells, and then back in somewhere I assume has no gas yield potential), they're having big problems making it work properly at scale.
I wish I had some better links, but it's of serious concern:
- http://www.csiro.au/news/~/media/CSIROau/Files/PDF/Coal%20seam%20gas%20PDFs/The%20Great%20Artesian%20Basin%20and%20coal%20seam%20gas.pdf
- http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/grappling-with-science-and-sceptics-20111111-1nbsg.html
- http://www.basinsustainabilityalliance.org/newsgroundwaterseminar.html
Almost 300 billion litres of water extracted with the gas annually. I've never heard what price Santos, Origin, QGC etc. are paying for this water: are they in fact paying any at all? And, "Millions of tonnes" of waste salt to be dumped somewhere.
I know the situation in Queensland. And I know how much influence the Queensland greens have on the state labor government there. The only conclusion I can draw is that the Greens are just as corrupt as the rest of them.
Posting AC, because I used to be closer to this stuff and should know better.
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Re:Child pornography is not an excuse
Don't forget one of our state parliaments actively defends Paedophiles in their own house.
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Re:knowledge is power
Actually, there was an interesting case recently here in Australia. Some bloke had been wandering around a carpark stealing valuables and at least one car. One of the mobiles he had stolen had kiddy porn on it. He turned it over to the police. They warned him that he'd be charged with theft, but he decided it was a price he was willing to pay.
The pedo has been charged (and I assume is awaiting trial). A judge commended the thief, and gave him a relative slap on the wrist for his crimes. (Okay, so it was a month in prison, but it was a pretty impressive rap sheet).
To quote the judge, "'We don't want to discourage other like-minded people to act in the manner you have."
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Re:Many versus Awesome
The Rafales has a radar cross section of 0.72m2, its not designed to be a stealth fighter.
The F22 is around the size of a marble, the F35 the size of a golf ballTry beach ball. To quote The Sydney Morning Herald after the stealth capabilities of the F-35 were downgraded from the original plan:
A crucial aspect of the fighter's "stealth capability" - radio frequency signatures - has been downgraded from "very low observable" to "low observable", according to the US Defence Department website.
Peter Goon, a former RAAF flight test engineer, said that would mean the difference between it appearing as a "marble and a beach ball" on enemy radar. The problem with the fighter, Dr Jensen says, is that it can be relatively easily detected from the rear.
(and can carry 3000lb of bombs in internal bays)
Which makes it a light bomber. It's really more of a ground strike aircraft than a fighter, multi-purpose or not. And that is basically what the US wants its allies to have to help fight its wars - you can't subdue Iran with Flankers; they are far more useful for actual defense than offense, and the US is all about attacking others.
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Re:Much worse
They arrested him because of a simple text message, not because any actions that he took. Just speech. That's a lot worse, if you ask me.
And this isn't the only western democracy trying it on;
... see also UK; Police slap cuffs on Punk SMSer, 3rd June 2004 ... see also AU; Police track text message senders, December 23, 2005 -
Re:End game
Pity that corrupt members of the ADF have been selling arms.
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Re:slashdotted
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Re:Isn't that anti-science?
Not one SINGLE climatologist has EVER said that even the worst possible projections of climate change will result in reaching the point "where civilization cannot be sustained". Spreading that bullshit propaganda does nothing but harm to the attempt to make the public aware of this problem.
A conference in Melbourne next week featuring a whoâ(TM)s who of climate scientists will explore what warming of 4 degrees or more means, including for Australia.
Apocalyptic is the only word for it, and understanding the implications is equally important for policymakers, business and the community.
Keynote speaker Professor Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, director of the Potsdam Institute and climate adviser to the German Chancellor and to the EU, has said that in a 4-degree warmer world, the population carrying capacity estimates [are] below 1billion people.
Professor Kevin Anderson, director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change in Britain, was quoted in The Scotsman ahead of the 2009 Copenhagen conference saying the consequences were terrifying.
For humanity its a matter of life or death
... we will not make all human beings extinct, as a few people with the right sort of resources may put themselves in the right parts of the world and survive. But I think its extremely unlikely that we wouldnâ(TM)t have mass death at 4 degrees.If you have got a population of 9 billion by 2050 and you hit 4 degrees, 5 degrees or 6 degrees, you might have half a billion people surviving.
The paleoclimate record does not provide a case with a climate forcing of the magnitude and speed that will occur if fossil fuels are all burned. Models are nowhere near the stage at which they can predict reliably when major ice sheet disintegration will begin.
Nor can we say how close we are to methane hydrate instability. But these are questions of when, not if. If we burn all the fossil fuels, the ice sheets almost surely will melt entirely, with the final sea level rise about 75 meters (250 feet), with most of that possibly occurring within a time scale of centuries.
Methane hydrates are likely to be more extensive and vulnerable now than they were in the early Cenozoic. It is difficult to imagine how the methane clathrates could survive, once the ocean has had time to warm. In that event a PETM-like warming could be added on top of the fossil fuel warming.
After the ice is gone, would Earth proceed to the Venus syndrome, a runaway greenhouse effect that would destroy all life on the planet, perhaps permanently? While that is difficult to say based on present information, Ive come to conclude that if we burn all reserves of oil, gas, and coal, there is a substantial chance we will initiate the runaway greenhouse. If we also burn the tar sands and tar shale, I believe the Venus syndrome is a dead certainty.
From http://www.sindark.com/2010/02/04/is-runaway-climate-change-possible-hansens-take/
Nobel physicist and Secretary of Energy Chu:
Right now, the climate scientists feel that if all humans shut off carbon emissions today, it will still glide up by about 1 degree centigrade. In the business-as-usual scenarios, Nicholas Stern says there's a 50 percent chance we may go to 5 degrees centigrade.... And certain tipping points might be triggered. We can adapt to 1 or 2 degrees. More than that, there is no adaptation strategy.
So the big fear is that once the tundra thaws, those microbes wake up, they digest all that carbon. It goes up in the atmosphere. At th
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Re:Fucking ground this fleet.
What do service engineers have to gain by grounding the fleet - not much.
Australian service engineers were on strike recently about keeping QANTAS planes serviced in Australia to preserve Australian service engineer jobs. It's the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association that is calling for the planes to be checked now rather than when they are next due for heavy maintenance as Airbus suggests. I wonder if "checking now" (followed probably by "checking much more often") might make work for some Australian licenced aircraft engineers? While I am inclined to agree with them, I do have to recognise that yes they have something to gain.
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Re:Fucking ground this fleet.
The people who lie are usually the ones with the most to gain/lose. What do service engineers have to gain by grounding the fleet - not much. What would Airbus lose by having their brand new fleet grounded - a huge amount of public confidence.
What do service engineers have to gain?
Well, let's have a bit of context. These aren't just "service engineers", it's the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association, the trade union for aircraft engineers in Australia.
The same trade union which wants an A380 maintenance hangar in Australia, written into the workplace agreement they were negotiating with Qantas.
They've recently settled that agreement, without getting the hangar, (one source), so one presumes they're just keeping their name in the news.
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Re:Clean up? Start fresh
I also should have written "capital city newspaper", which is what I really meant, instead of "local newspaper".
I was pretty impressed with what so few people did with so much contradictory, nebulous, information. If you're not familiar with their work try google a "site:" search for a list of their (formerly) public releases, then "cache:" to read one.
I asked around to get a few opinions on my guesstimates for mid-western newspapers (I already has some on the few Australian equivalents), it was worth the trouble if only to feed a few red herrings to a gossipy journalist "friend" (May-te!). Right now he's probably at his usual position at club telling people I'm about to buy into American local newspapers.
Pity those mushrooms aren't on the menu.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again
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Does this count?
Very big Steve jobs doll (with video)
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/steve-jobs-statue-unveiled-in-hungary-20111222-1p638.html?rand=4554035