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Yes, everyone only needs to implement "the tricky stuff", i.e the stuff you sure as hell don't want everyone to implement on their own.

Listen up pal, if I had a penny every time people only had to do one thing too keep things secure and didn't, I'd be rich. Which I'm not. It goes all the way back to ancient history via the Enigma to present day, there are lots and lots of theoretically fantastically secure solutions if people only. Then reality happens.

Your faith in your government and authorities are touching. However, reality again rears its ugly head. you'd be amazed how incompetent and stupid people who supposedly are in charge not infrequently turns out to be, and how much irrevocable damage they can do. Feel free to refer the Swedish scandal at their Agency of Transportation, Transportstyrelsen. Yes, it's not Estonia, but bureaucrats are the same everywhere, and fuckups of truly epic proportions are in no way neither a Swedish specialty, nor somthing that just happens there.

Not really, but close. It not a US-only problem.
https://www.thelocal.se/201704...

Citizen should be able to choose their diet without complaints from governments bodies. But we can do a lot more, like making active transport (walking, cycling and such) or semi-active (transit + walking) the most attractive mode of transportation in cities (which also has a lot of other benefits).

First of all, the US is one of the countries which is doing the least to help out with climate change. Note in contrast for example, that Sweden is reaching its 2030 goals for renewable energy by the end of the this year https://www.thelocal.se/20180716/sweden-to-reach-2030-renewable-energy-goal-in-2018. Moreover, the US per a capita CO2 production is over twice that of the EU and about three times the world average https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions. We're doing less than other countries, and have more that we can easily do. But many of the things that one can do, like eating less meat, getting a hybrid or electric car, getting home solar panels, will not just be good for the environment, but will save you money.

Ok, lets do that check.
Sweden - https://www.thelocal.se/201702...
Norway - https://www.tnp.no/norway/econ...
Japan - https://www.bloomberg.com/grap...
Korea - http://english.hani.co.kr/arti...
China - https://www.scmp.com/news/chin...

Any more specious arguments you'd like to make?

Isn't the new early retirement age in Sweden right now bumped up from 61 to 64?

https://www.thelocal.se/201712...

I think your complaint falls into the "first world problems" bucket. Also, I doubt that you're actually Swedish, but rather are an American repeating something he saw on FoxNews

23C is _average_ not the top temperature. The top is 28C

https://www.thelocal.se/201708...

https://www.thelocal.se/201609...

Sweden will make medical age assessments of unaccompanied asylum seekers by examining their teeth and knee joints. The new system, unveiled on Friday by the national forensic medicine agency (Rättsmedicinalverket), aims to tackle doubts over the accurate age of those who seek asylum in the country.
With over 35,000 coming last year alone, Sweden has taken in more unaccompanied children and young people than any other country in Europe, and many of them lack identity documents.

The migration authority (Migrationsverket) makes an initial age assessment with every application, but the tests have been criticized for being ineffective. If a person is not clearly over 18, they are registered as a child.

In the last year, several Swedish municipalities have reported suspected cases of adults being placed together with children at residential care homes for young people (known as HVB homes), as well as being sent to school with minors.

According to the migration board, there are doubts about the accurate age of 70 percent of unaccompanied minors who have stated that they are between 15 and 17 years old.

As a solution, the Swedish government asked for medical age assessments to be carried out on a large scale. Rättsmedicinalverket detailed at a media conference on Friday when that work will get under way and explained how it can be done.

Between 15,000 and 18,000 age assessments will now be needed, the agency said. The two methods that will be used are dental maturity assessments involving wisdom teeth, and the examination of knee joints using MRI. The two examinations will be performed independently by MRI clinics and dental clinics.

"Medical age assessments are an integral part of forensic medicine in many other countries, so it is only natural that we carry them out," Rättsmedicinalverket methodology manager Elias Palm commented.

The agency expects to reach an agreement to outsource the assessments by December this year, with the goal of starting the tests during the first quarter of 2017.

Earlier this week a Swedish pediatrician sparked debate when he criticized the current tests authorities use to verify the real age of asylum applicants, claiming some could even be as old as 40.

"The refugee children who are in their early and mid-teens are the ones who end up paying the price for this. These are resources that have been earmarked for children, but are used for another age group," Josef Milerad told newspaper Expressen.

Emphasis mine - the authorities thought 70% of them were lying. And there's still some debate as to whether the age tests are catching enough of them.

I'm sure you'll find people in Sweden saying that there's no problem and anyone who says there is is a racist. It is Sweden after all.

Age can be determined by teeth.

The Swedes tried to do that. Most refugees destroy their documents so they can't be deported and Sweden gives preference to children. It turned out that most of the 'child refugees' they were admitting were over 18.

https://www.thelocal.se/201712...

The Migration Agency has so far made 5,700 decisions on the basis of assessments carried out by Rättsmedicinalverket. In 79 percent of those cases the agency decided to formally consider the applicant as older than they had initially claimed in their asylum application, reports Svenska Dagbladet (SvD).

Between mid-March and late October, Rättsmedicinalverket carried out a total of 7,858 age assessments. Of those, it found that their examination suggested 6,628 were 18 or older, and 112 "possibly" 18 or older.

The left - who wanted to let in the refugees - claimed that doing tests were a violation of human rights of course and fought the introduction of them to the bitter end. You can expect something similar to happen in Germany.

Wrong, most of the claimed child refugees submitted for testing were adults. But they only tested a refuge when they thought they were lying. No one is going to bother doing an assessment of a 10 year old.

Further down in the same article:
As a result, in September last year the government asked for medical age assessments to be carried out on a large scale.

More than 80,000 minors (of whom 37,000 arrived in the country without a parent or guardian) applied for asylum in Sweden in 2015 and 2016. Medical age assessments are carried out only in cases where the Migration Agency believes there is reason to doubt their age.

There's every reason to believe that a substantial majority of the child refugees are actually children.

Age can be determined by teeth.

The Swedes tried to do that. Most refugees destroy their documents so they can't be deported and Sweden gives preference to children. It turned out that most of the 'child refugees' they were admitting were over 18.

https://www.thelocal.se/201712...

The Migration Agency has so far made 5,700 decisions on the basis of assessments carried out by Rättsmedicinalverket. In 79 percent of those cases the agency decided to formally consider the applicant as older than they had initially claimed in their asylum application, reports Svenska Dagbladet (SvD).

Between mid-March and late October, Rättsmedicinalverket carried out a total of 7,858 age assessments. Of those, it found that their examination suggested 6,628 were 18 or older, and 112 "possibly" 18 or older.

The left - who wanted to let in the refugees - claimed that doing tests were a violation of human rights of course and fought the introduction of them to the bitter end. You can expect something similar to happen in Germany.

And 60'ish % in taxes to pay for the unemployed and unemployable...

I live in Sweden and planning to move out as soon as possible..... Why the heck stay in a place that has nice weather for 2½ month's per year and drains you of your hard-earned money when the benefits you get for paying taxes is continuously being degraded.

If we would have a bit more sun during the winter to reduce the depression-rates... https://www.theatlantic.com/he...

Or having a good healthcare system for the amount of taxes we pay..
https://www.thelocal.se/201501...

Or being a cheap country to live in...
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of...

Housing-costs going up every year:
https://www.thelocal.se/201610...
https://www.globalpropertyguid... ... In the city where i live the queue time to get a rental apartment is around 15 years for the central part of the city... and 10 years in the suburbs....

And 60'ish % in taxes to pay for the unemployed and unemployable...

I live in Sweden and planning to move out as soon as possible..... Why the heck stay in a place that has nice weather for 2½ month's per year and drains you of your hard-earned money when the benefits you get for paying taxes is continuously being degraded.

If we would have a bit more sun during the winter to reduce the depression-rates... https://www.theatlantic.com/he...

Or having a good healthcare system for the amount of taxes we pay..
https://www.thelocal.se/201501...

Or being a cheap country to live in...
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of...

Housing-costs going up every year:
https://www.thelocal.se/201610...
https://www.globalpropertyguid... ... In the city where i live the queue time to get a rental apartment is around 15 years for the central part of the city... and 10 years in the suburbs....

Did you know that sexual assault crimes has increased by over 1000% in Sweden in three years?

Did you know that this claim is total BS? Look at the numbers:

“What criminologists do is to look at the 10-year, 20-year development. Then we can see the trends. Year to year, it’s impossible to judge why changes occur,” he added.

An example of a figure from Brå’s statistics which paints one picture in isolation but a different one with further context is that the number of rapes reported in Sweden increased by 13 percent in 2016 to 6,560.

But when that number is compared to 2014, where the number of reported rapes was 6,700, then a slight decrease can actually be seen. In other words, the number of reported rapes in Sweden dipped in 2015 (down by 12 percent to 5,920) then in 2016 it returned to around the same level as 2014.

Seen over a ten-year period, the number of reported rapes has gone up from 4,208 in 2006, partly because of legislative changes in the previous year and in 2013 broadening the definition, according to Brå.

According to Brå's figures, 10,500 incidents of sexual molestation were reported in the country in 2016 – a striking increase of 20 percent on 2015 (when 8,840 were reported).

But once again, 2015 was a year when reported sexual molestation had dropped significantly – it was down by eight percent that year compared to 2014, when 9,640 incidents were reported.

“The number of crimes reported can depend very much on the propensity to report,” Sarnecki noted.

The definition of rape in >weden is broader than elsewhere in the west, including stuff that elsewhere would be charged under sexual harassment. Secondly the reporting works differently in that they estimate the total amount of offenses: So if a wife reports that her husband has been having sex with her against her will dozens of times, in most places it's filed as a single case of suspected rape for the national crime stats, but in Sweden they count each suspected instance separately meaning that a single case can easily generate tens or hundreds of incidents of rape for the stats. This means comparing Swedish stats to other western nations directly is not really sensible.

You wouldn't if you lived in Sweden. They put people in prison if they say it.

Lol, I can guarantee you've never lived in Sweden (me neither but I live next door in Finland and visit regularly and have friends there) . There's extensive discussion about crime stats as there's one party in the parliament that's trying to do exactly what you're trying to do, which is to insinuate that the fluctuation in the numbers is due to immigrants somehow raping people en masse on the streets, which is simply not true.

the attached article was pretty quickly found, the details as i understand them were. it's the official twitter handle of sweden. any swedish citizen currently in sweden or around can be nominated for the position by anyone for one week.

https://www.thelocal.se/201705...

it's hard to get all the facts, but it seems that the putative purpose was to block anyone the individual felt was a troll or expressed hateful, racist or far right-wing opinions.

they reversed the blanket block after it was revealed that the block included members of parliament and the israeli ambassador. in addition, the blocklist can no longer be produced because it was deleted, which may or may not contravene documents and records laws for government agencies in sweden.

the members of government were slightly upset that the block seemed to imply that they were alt-right or nazi sympathizers. soo yeah.

If your country is suffering grenade attacks in public places, you have a serious problem. If a particular segment of the population is directly responsible for that, then you also have a problem.

Of course. But this is something the Swedes themselves admit. The authorities admit that gang acitivyt has increased and become more violent which is a problem. Keep in mind though, the immigrants responsible for organized crime tend not to be muslims as much as they're from eastern Europe/former yugoslavia area. Running drugs and guns tends to be the area of the mafia, which does not traditionally mingle with muslims.

Now, Sweden's own crime reports says crime is going up. It [www.bra.se] doesn't [www.bra.se] what [www.bra.se] area of crime you're looking at, whether it be petty or violent. They've all gone up,

If you look at the stats for 2016 there's been an increase from 2015, but that's because 2015 saw a decline in crime.

“What criminologists do is to look at the 10-year, 20-year development. Then we can see the trends. Year to year, it’s impossible to judge why changes occur,” he added.

An example of a figure from Brå’s statistics which paints one picture in isolation but a different one with further context is that the number of rapes reported in Sweden increased by 13 percent in 2016 to 6,560.

But when that number is compared to 2014, where the number of reported rapes was 6,700, then a slight decrease can actually be seen. In other words, the number of reported rapes in Sweden dipped in 2015 (down by 12 percent to 5,920) then in 2016 it returned to around the same level as 2014.

Seen over a ten-year period, the number of reported rapes has gone up from 4,208 in 2006, partly because of legislative changes in the previous year and in 2013 broadening the definition, according to Brå.

According to Brå's figures, 10,500 incidents of sexual molestation were reported in the country in 2016 – a striking increase of 20 percent on 2015 (when 8,840 were reported).

But once again, 2015 was a year when reported sexual molestation had dropped significantly – it was down by eight percent that year compared to 2014, when 9,640 incidents were reported.

“The number of crimes reported can depend very much on the propensity to report,” Sarnecki noted.

“In 2016 for instance there was a lot of discussion about sexual assault and the relation between sexual assault and immigration. We know through research that those kind of years with more discussion of those subjects see the number of crimes reported increase.”

"The problem with explaining these figures is that very many variables not necessarily related to crime impact the figures. You have to be very careful, in particular if you look at changes on a year-to-year basis," he concluded.

(Source

Noting that from their own statistics estimated unreported sexual crimes have gone from ~160k/year to nearly 500k/year in a decade. That's not the : "The sexual act can be intercourse, but also other sexual acts because of coercion or other circumstances are serious offensive can lead to a person being convicted of rape." That's the violent assault of a person aka actual rape.

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What information do you have to back up your claim that this estimate is not affected by the broadening of the definition of rape and the way the stats are calculated?

20% of the voting public isn't a statistically insignificant number.

I never said it was. I simply said that even at that level of polling it's far from clear at this point that they'll be able to win the elections and form a government.

Anyways, why bother with facts when you can use #alternativefacts, the latter doesn't even require any references.

You mean like the fact that actual "physical assaults" have gone through the roof? By nearly 1500% That's not the overly broad definition that people like trying to use. That's the definition that we'd use here in North America, meaning physical assault plus violent penetration. That the number of reported gang rapes has gone through the roof as well. Or that there's more cases of this type of garbage going on? One also can't forget that since they had that migrant surge and allowed all those people in, violent crime has jumped 300% Or that the swedish government seems to be scrubbing the backgrounds of the attackers out of crime stats or the media uses the "swedish men" claim when they aren't citizens, aren't naturalized, have no form of landed residence.

Those are facts. Much like the fact that the government leaned on the police and media in Germany to suppress the number of assaults during new years a few years ago. These are the same facts that Germany is currently facing, and France. It's why tour companies in Asia are telling tourists to avoid some Euro destinations because cities have become unsafe.

Here are couple more articles. The level of government sponsored propaganda in Sweden is reaching pretty unprecedented levels and I was wondering what it would take for people to start noticing.

http://www.thelocal.se/2015102...
http://www.dailystormer.com/re...

...the Swedish reactors are some of the oldest and the least serviceable in the world.
http://www.thelocal.se/2015062...

Swedish reactors where considered the 2nd least upgradeable and amongst the worst in the world. Kinda interesting since their Finnish neighbour has one of the most efficient and upgradeable reactor designs in the world. Go figure.

at least a certain baseline.

That's not what "equal footing" means (to me, at least).

Nordic welfare states ... seem to be doing just fine.

I don't think so.
http://www.businessinsider.com/finland-is-in-a-grave-situation-2015-6
http://www.thelocal.se/20150120/dark-forecast-for-swedish-economy

Is that what you got out of the article? It looks different to me, actually pretty much the reverse of what you think it is. Let's look at the section in question. If you look at the section in bold below you see that the Swedes say they submitted a request to interview Assange at the embassy. Then we see this weighty statement from Ecuador that they will consider it in light of this and that. Ecuador's Foreign Ministry statement comes after years of posturing about questioning Assange in the embassy which would seem to indicate that there was support for that in the embassy and Ecuador. (After all, would Assange make the demand repeatedly if he had no support for it from the Ecuadorians?) And finally we have the Swedish spokesman stating that there are "problems" with a number of the documents. It's fairly easy to see what is going on.

The Swedes made a request in good faith to Ecuador and the UK*(see below) and the government of Ecuador has decided to drag their feet and manufacture excuses to not allow the meeting to happen. They are providing cover for Assange with the statute of limitations for some of the charges rapidly approaching. What possible difficulty could there really be if Ecuador was of a mind to truly cooperate? What is this weighty decision?

This is political cover for Assange by Ecuador, plain and simple. I'm a little surprised you don't see it given your hyper-suspicion about the UK, US, and other Western countries. Ah, but there it is - Ecuador is a Leftist paradise offering refuge to Assange. No scrutiny needed there!

Fredrik Berg, press spokesman at Sweden's Prosecution Authority (Åklagarmyndigheten), did not want to comment, but said there had been problems with a number of documents that had delayed the process.

“We will do everything to ensure the interrogation happens in June or July,” he insisted.

Meanwhile, Ecuador said it was still considering Swedish prosecutors' request.

Ecuador is evaluating the request “in the spirit of judicial cooperation” and will make a decision based on international law and “Ecuadorian jurisdiction in the area of asylum rights,” the foreign ministry said in a statement.

Swedish prosecutors said on Monday that they had submitted a request to British and Ecuadoran authorities to question Assange in June and July at the embassy, as reported by The Local.

* Sweden may quiz Julian Assange this month

Sweden's director of public prosecution Marianne Ny "has submitted a request for legal assistance to the English authorities and a request to Ecuadorian authorities regarding permission to interview Julian Assange at Ecuador's embassy in London during June-July 2015," a statement from her office said.

*** Yes, he did flee. The claim that Assange was "free to go" as promulgated by Björn Hurtig, a former attorney of Assange's. He tried that same line in court and got smacked down by the judge for trying to deceive the court, and then got an official reprimand from the Swedish Bar Association.

I can't confirm or deny your claim here, but the link you provide doesn't confirm it either:

Riddle was referring to testimony in which Hurtig had said he had been unable to contact Assange last year when he was sought by Swedish prosecutors for questioning.

Nothing is said about whether Assange was free to leave Sweden or not, but a court order banning you from leaving the country usually means you hand over your passport. Since the UK is not part of the Schengen Area, he would have needed a passport to enter the UK from Sweden.

F*ing a sleeping girl is to work around her refusal to consent to one's preferred form of sex - entry #4 on Assange's EAW - is rape in almost every jurisdiction in the first world. And the UK court system has - at multiple levels - upheld that all four entries on the EAW match up to equivalent British charges. And a full court hearing in the Svea Court of Appeals, including testimony from Assange's attorneys, has gone over the evidence and found probable cause on all four counts. Heck, one of Assange's attorneys (Emerson) all but admitted that he did it.

Sweden actually has rather unusually lax penalties in this regard compared to most places. If Assange was convicted of doing that in DC then he'd be facing a 10x longer maximum sentence than in Sweden. In fact, Sweden's rape laws in general are pretty lax. There was a rape case a while back where a teenage girl was gang-raped by a group of three men; however, only the first could be charged because, having been beaten into submission by him, she had stopped resisting by the time that the other two got to her.

Anyway, for the case at hand here, it's amazing that the Slashdot header didn't mention the actual stated reason why the prosecutor is doing this: because the statute of limitations on some of the lesser charges** runs out this year (the statute on the rape charge** doesn't run out until 2020). Thus he has to be indicted**, of which this questioning is a legal requirement (he's only been questioned on some of the charges before he fled***, all other communication has been through Q and A via his attorneys). This will pose some challenges, as in general in Sweden, once indicted**, there's a time limit on when the case must go to trial, but if he still refuses to hand himself over, he could run this out. But the prosecutor's office may be able to extend that, we'll have to see.

** I use here "charged" in the case of "anklagad" and "indict" in the case of "åtala". They don't exactly match up to English words, and a lot of Assange fans like to play this word game where they say he's not been "charged" and use that as an excuse for why he should be able to go free. But in Sweden, the process is that one gets formally anklagad by the processor and a judge issues a warrant (following the same sort of process as a charged person in the US or UK), and then once in custody and sufficient evidence has been gathered for prosecution, they're åtalad, which brings the case to trial. You're anklagad to get you in custody, åtalad to try to convict you.

*** Yes, he did flee. The claim that Assange was "free to go" as promulgated by Björn Hurtig, a former attorney of Assange's. He tried that same line in court and got smacked down by the judge for trying to deceive the court, and then got an official reprimand from the Swedish Bar Association.

Perhaps it wont die because it's not actually a myth? What you quote, and state, states that the prosecution would like to pursue 4 specific charges, but there's the problem, all they're doing is saying they'd like to, they're not actually doing it.

The point is, that if they want to actually press charges then they should just do it. Yes, yes, I know the argument is that they can't because of a magical clause that prevents Sweden charging and trying in absentia. Oh wait, they can do exactly fucking that when it suits:

http://www.thelocal.se/2010052...

All the lies about Sweden having a "different" legal system that prevents them doing things that every other country in the world manages to do are exactly that, lies. Sweden can and does do things exactly like everyone else, they're just making an exception in lying about it in Assange's case.

He was never free to go; that's a myth spread by his attorney, who received an official condemnation by the Swedish Bar Association for lying about that in court as well as a major dressing down from the judge (he's lucky he didn't get hit with legal sanctions). There was never a time period where he was not under investigation, and when he fled the country, his attorney was actively pretending that Assange was getting ready to come in willingly (and then after he got to the UK, Hurtg continued stalling, pretending Assange was going to be coming immediately back). If you want to see all the nitty-gritty, you can read the Ny SMS logs, they've been released.

To go into more details about the early stages: AA and SW walked into a Stockholm police station and made the report, and were interviewed by two separate officers. As it was a weekend, the only available prosecutor, Eva Finne, took the case. There were a total of three initial investigating officers - Wassgren, Krans, and Gehlen. Wassgren and Gehlen felt, from the interviews, that Assange should be charged with five counts (2x molestatation, 1x unlawful sexual coersion, 2x rape); Krans felt it should be 2x, 1x, 2x. News quickly broke that Assange was being investigated. This is supposed to be illegal, the name isn't supposed to be disclosed at this stage but Sweden has some crazy-strong whistleblower protection laws (part of the reason Assange was moving there in the first place), you can't even investigate to find out who made a leak, so it always happens when cases involve famous people. Finne quickly had a warrant issued for Assange's arrest for the two rapes - even though he had not at that point refused to cooperate. There was naturally a huge backlash, and Finne withdrew the warrant (thus dropping the rape charges), but kept the investigation open for the molestation and unlawful sexual coersion charges. It was during this time that Assange was interviewed; since the only investigations open referred to the lesser charges, that's all he was interviewed about. Meanwhile, the legal representative of the women, Claes Borgström, appealed the decision (Sweden has a police appeal board, which is frequently used for cases like this and isn't particularly unusual); the fact that Finne had dropped the rape charge concerning SW before SW's statement had even gotten into the computer system made it pretty obvious that the case hadn't gotten a fair hearing, and the board ruled in favor of the women. The case was thus transferred to the next prosecutor up, Marianne Ny. Ny reopened the investigation for all five counts, and tried to get Assange back in to interview him for the dropped charges. The team meanwhile did lots of followup interviews and forensics collection and testing. It was during this time that Assange fled to the UK. Ny spent over a month trying to get Assange to come back, continually reaching out to his attorney, even the day before she went into court to get a warrant for him. A judge approved the Swedish warrant (thus he was formally anklagad, the Swedish stage for trying to get a person into custody so that they can then be åtalad, which is the stage that leads to trial) and subsequently the EAW was issued. The original warrant was open for the full five counts. Assange appealed to the Svea Board of Appeals (Sweden has a strong defendents rights process, even though he was hiding from the law he was still able in absentia to appeal the investigation), and a full court hearing was held involving a full review of the evidence and testimony from Assange's attorneys. For the most part, he lost - one of the rape charges was dropped, but the other and all of the others were upheld, leaving a formal finding of probable cause of rape, molestation, and unlawful sexual coersion. Assange appealed to the Swedish Supreme Court. His appeal was rejected. He then moved through the appeals process in the British system, first the lower court, the high court, and the Supreme Court, alleging malicious p

Yes, Assange was so terrified of those evil Swedes, those American puppets, that he was moving Wikileaks' base of operations there (after alienating the majority of his Iceland team) and applying for a residence permit there, right? That's why he called Sweden's laws and legal system his "shield" in multiple interviews, right? That's why Wikileaks leaked that in 2006 Sweden caused a major diplomatic rift with the US by outright disguising their special forces as airport workers to break into a CIA rendition flight to stop the US, right?

Funny how Sweden only became evil US lackeys after he was anklagad for rape.

Yes, Assange was so terrified of those evil Swedes, those American puppets, that he was moving Wikileaks' base of operations there (after alienating the majority of his Iceland team) and applying for a residence permit there, right? That's why he called Sweden's laws and legal system his "shield" in multiple interviews, right? That's why Wikileaks leaked that in 2006 Sweden caused a major diplomatic rift with the US by outright disguising their special forces as airport workers to break into a CIA rendition flight to stop the US, right?

Funny how Sweden only became evil US lackeys after he was anklagad for rape.

LOL, okay, yeah. It's also illegal to render people from the EU to other countries

Ahem.

There's been more action taken in the EU against the US rendition program than anywhere else in the world.

Framing him was part of their attempt to discredit Wikileaks.

Why thank you, Amazing Kreskin, for your ability to know more than everyone actually involved in the case, including the three investigating officers, two (Gehlen, Wassgren) wanted him charged for what would become 5 charges (1x unlawful sexual coersion, 2x molestation, 2x rape), while one (Krans) wanted him charged with 4 (1x, 2x, 1x); the original prosecutor (Finne), who began investigating for 5 (1x, 2x, 2x), but changed it to 3x (1x, 2x, 0x) before SW's statement made it into the system; the appeals board which found her in error for reducing it without having even reviewed the victim statement; the second prosecutor (Ny), who sought (1x, 2x, 2x); the lower court judge, who approved a warrant for (1x, 2x, 2x); the Svea Court of Appeals, who held a full court hearing on appeal from Assange, including testimony from Assange's attorneys and a review of all evidence, and reached an official finding of probable cause for (1x, 2x, 1x); the Swedish Supreme Court, who refused his appeal; the British lower court, who heard Assange's claims alleging flaws in the Swedish process and malicious prosecution, and ruled against him on all counts; the UK High Court, which did the same; and the UK Supreme Court, which again did the same.

No no, we don't need any freaking judicial system, we have Amazing Kreskin here to tell us what's what!

They did the same thing to Snowden in the early days, making all sorts of claims about his girlfriend.

Huh? Pretty much everything I saw about his girlfriend was supportive of Snowden, along the lines of "Look at what he sacrificed in order to release this information!" If there was anything trying to condemn him over his girlfriend, I sure didn't see it. And even ignoring that, what the media chooses to focus on in one case to do has no bearing on what every level of two countries' judicial systems rules on a completely unrelated case..

The funny thing being that according to Wikileaks itself, in 2006 Sweden created a major diplomatic incident with the US by diguising their special forces as airport workers and hijacking a US rendition flight to stop the US from renditioning people through their airspace. The very Swedish foreign minister that Assange rails against (Carl Bildt) is the same guy who was prime minister when Sweden refused to hand over Edward Lee Howard to the US because Swedish law bans extradition for intelligence crimes.

No country is perfect, and every country has bad marks at some point on its record, so anyone who wants to can pick attacks for any country. However, in Sweden, these sort of things are few and far between. The peer-reviewed World Justice Project Rule of Law Index ranks Sweden #1 in the world for fundamental rights of the accused. Assange on at least two occasions called Sweden his "shield" before the incident due to their having such good whistleblower protections**, and was applying for residence there. It was only after he got anklagad for rape that he suddenly changed his tune and decided that Sweden is an evil US lackey bent on his downfall. Funny how that works.

(** It's actually those very whistleblower protections that are responsible for why we know so much about the case. In Sweden, it's illegal to even look for a person who leaks documents if they consider it whisteblowing; as a result, pretty much every high-profile criminal case in Sweden leaks like a sieve)

It took 18 years for them to figure this out? Whiles some grandmother in Sweden had 40 GB back in 2007?

When can I get mine? And can I choose from more than one provider? And, most importantly, will I really get 40 GB?

If you actually read the original article:
http://www.thelocal.se/2007071...

You'd find that having a son who is a Fiber optic researcher/engineer that wanted to demonstrate a new technology would help quite a bit. i.e. you fell for a publicity stunt.

To make it even more silly, read the followup article:
http://www.thelocal.se/2008033...

Where it's revealed she didn't really use it much. The equipment was so large, and hot, she actually used it to dry her laundry.

It took 18 years for them to figure this out? Whiles some grandmother in Sweden had 40 GB back in 2007?

When can I get mine? And can I choose from more than one provider? And, most importantly, will I really get 40 GB?

If you actually read the original article:
http://www.thelocal.se/2007071...

You'd find that having a son who is a Fiber optic researcher/engineer that wanted to demonstrate a new technology would help quite a bit. i.e. you fell for a publicity stunt.

To make it even more silly, read the followup article:
http://www.thelocal.se/2008033...

Where it's revealed she didn't really use it much. The equipment was so large, and hot, she actually used it to dry her laundry.

Nevermind : http://www.thelocal.se/2014011...

The abyss is deep. Stockholm's gender equal plowing system delays plowing main roads because they are mostly used by working men, and focuses on clearing the snow out of the way of single mothers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/10080320/Stockholm-riots-leave-Swedens-dreams-of-perfect-society-up-in-smoke.html
http://www.thelocal.se/20110810/35462
http://phys.org/news/2011-10-group-boundaries-key-ethnic-violence.html
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/01/police-routinely-suppress-racial-data-in-canada-study-says/

The Swedes 'cooperated' too.

http://www.thelocal.se/20131205/sweden-spied-on-russia-for-nsa-report

It's pretty hard to say no when the guy with the biggest guns and millions of murders to back them asks you to do something.

"concern surrounds the Swedish detention facility, where Mr Assange would be held incommunicado upon arrival. Similar treatment can be seen in the case of Gottfrid Svartholm, founder of The Pirate Bay, who was held in solitary confinement for months without being officially charged."

From the ruling of Stockholm's Tingsrätt: “Åklagaren får inte tillstånd att meddela beslut om restriktioner.” ("The prosecutor is not allowed to impose restrictions."). The prosecutor is legally *banned* from imposing restrictions on Assange while in custody. So this is a complete red herring excuse, and they know it. The prosecutor has elaborated in more detail, that he will have no restrictions on ability to mingle, use the phone, use the computer, etc.

Moving on...

see "Assange is willing to return to Sweden but prosecutors can also question him in the UK." [nicholasmead.com]

See my previous comment.

or dropping them as looks increasingly likely [firedoglake.com]

Assange and his followers have been making this claim since day one - yet one of the list of, well, essentially everything that Assange has said about his case and Manning's that's turned out to be flatly wrong (Manning will be convicted of aiding the enemy, it's all a show trial, they'll lock Manning up for life and throw away the key, there's a secret indictment against me, I'm going to win 15% of the Australian vote, become a senator, and then they'll have to drop the case.... etc). The line about Ny being forced out is also a lie that could have been debunked with a simple phone call. As is the no DNA line.

The reality is that the case is in a holding pattern. There's literally nothing being done with it, and nor will anything be done until he's in custody. The entire case against him has been built and they have an appeal-upheld probable cause finding against him by a full court hearing in which all evidence was reviewed and Assange's own attorney testified. There's literally nothing more they need except Assange.

Why don't you demonstrate your true manliness and post something more along these lines?

Or do you not want to end up in a video on Facebook or Youtube? Move along, nothing to see .... if you want to keep your head.

No problems there. Nope. Nope. It seems to be a successful strategy for them. You seem to be encouraging it.

South Park Muhammad Cartoon Sparks Jihadi Death Threats

Nor are these guys.

Not really, the US spying and crap of more internal governmental information. The Chinese hackers are gathering and using this information to directly economically compete with us.

WTF? No. The US has a long history of using the gathered information to secure business deals.
Why do you think the EU is actually bothered with it?
The US is using their information to screw their "allies" out of multi-billion dollar contracts, the Chinese are relatively benign compared to the shit the US does.

Every gov knows what Russia, the UK and US do with their "Consulate" floors

Oh come now A., the club is bigger than that! The majority of countries get in on the spy game at some level.
The Germans: The German Prism: Berlin Wants to Spy
Very involved in the current crisis: Assad did not order Syria chemical weapons attack, says German press
The Finns and Swedes can't be left out: Supo wants expanded net surveillance powers
Nor the French: France 'runs vast electronic spying operation using NSA-style methods'
The club is bigger still: Think US snooping is bad? Try Italy, India orCanada
Thousands of Russian spies in US: ex-CIA agent
Gordievsky: Russia has as many spies in Britain now as the USSR ever did
Chinese Spies Targeting U.K., MI5 Warns
But of course! Chinese use honeytraps to spy on French companies, intelligence report claims
Germany accuses China of industrial espionage
Germany targets Russian, Chinese spies
Spies in Sweden mostly from China, Russia, Iran
Number of Foreign Spies on the Rise in Finland
Austrian capital ‘filled with Iranian spies’
Foreign spies targeting Polish shale - Natural Gas Europe
Spain arrests three suspected of spying for Iran
Russia warns Ireland it will retaliate in spy row
FBI releases papers on Russian Irish spies in US - ‘Ghost Stories’

Sometimes the trails can get very complicated.

For some reason this video comes to mind: Its a Small World

The Future of Terrorism: What al-Qaida Really Wants

Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America'

Q2) As for the second question that we want to answer: What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?

(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam. ...

(2) The second thing we call you to, is to stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you.

(a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.

We call you to all of this that you may be freed from that which you have become caught up in; that you may be freed from the deceptive lies that you are a great nation, that your leaders spread amongst you to conceal from you the despicable state to which you have reached.

(b) It is saddening to tell you that you are the worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind:

(i) You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator....

HAMAS Targets Spain

Bonus:
UK: Muslim Gangs Enforce Sharia Law in London
AU: Muslim body wants 'moderate' sharia law but government rejects plan
SE: 'Separate laws for Muslims' idea slammed

BTW, in case you missed it in the first post, I avoid dangerous situations rather then rely on my car to compensate for my lack of driving ability.

And this is the key problem with driver assists. The traction control "handles all that", so you don't even notice that today the road is very slippery, and you end up with accidents like this one in Sweden last year (100 car pile-up): http://www.thelocal.se/45626/20130115/

Its not traction control that I rally about too much, all the other things like proximity sensors, parking assist that make drivers complacent on basic skills like looking and reversing.

Knowing how to brake without ABS may save your life one day... A useful skill but we're talking about "one day", not looking in your mirrors is going to kill you soon, not knowing how to stop in an emergency (I.E. blowing a tyre) will turn a survivable incident into a fatality. The more people rely on technology over common sense the more accidents we'll see.

BTW, in case you missed it in the first post, I avoid dangerous situations rather then rely on my car to compensate for my lack of driving ability.

And this is the key problem with driver assists. The traction control "handles all that", so you don't even notice that today the road is very slippery, and you end up with accidents like this one in Sweden last year (100 car pile-up): http://www.thelocal.se/45626/20130115/

Well, he's had his passport revoked, is being hunted around the world, and is being vilified in almost all public media.

Snowden isn't being hunted around the world because his passport is revoked. He is in Russia. Snowden isn't being vilified in "almost all public media." It is quite the reverse - he is being hailed as a hero by Chinese, Russians, many Europeans, and others across the world.

Well, at least he took refuge in Russia. What use do they have for four laptops full of NSA secrets?

Russia warns Ireland it will retaliate in spy row
Ireland Is Training Base for Russian Spies
As many Russian spies in UK today as in Cold War: Soviet defector
Canadian navy officer sentenced to 20 years for being Russian spy
10 in US held as spies for Russia
Russian spies in Australia at 'near Cold War level'
Germany jails Russian spy couple
Belgian diplomat suspected of being Russian spy
Finnish academic charged of aiding Russian spies
Spies in Sweden mostly from China, Russia, Iran
Estonia shaken by new Russian spy scandal
Georgia: Russian Spy Ring Smashed in Tbilisi -- Officials
Spain-Russia spy row leads to diplomats' expulsion

Russian warplanes breach NATO airspace - British and Norwegian jets intercepted Russian military aircraft ... close to the U.K. and Finland
Russian spy plane flies by Swedish military drill

This report comes after the newspaper wrote on 22 April, 2013 that Russian fighters had made dummy attacks close to Swedish territory during the Easter weekend.

RAF catches Russian bombers in UK airspace
UK jets shadow Russian bombers
Russian bombers’ secret UK missions ‘not a friendly act’
Russian subs stalk Trident in echo of Cold War - ... hunting down British Vanguard boats in a return to Cold War tactics
Russian around - A DESPERATE hunt was on last night for a Russian nuclear submarine lurking off the coast of Britain.

Well, that might be true, but; How many of the other accidents listed were near misses?

[...]

If you for instance look at the Forsmark incident

And depending on whose opinion you take. I notice that they still had two remaining generators even if those shared the fault of the two that went down, and could tap into a "second, separate network".

That doesn't qualify to me as a "near miss".

These 2.3 terrabytes of bit torrent downloads are not piracy.

They are performance art.

Some express themselves through defecating paint on canvas, or inserting nostalgic objects into their vaginas, or even collecting garbage in a room and calling it art.

My art is poetry formed of the sequence of downloads I am undertaking.

Now please stop troubling me with your talk about "piracy" and "illegality" because it's simply not true.

Also because I'm in the EU, can I get welfare benefits for heavy metal addiction?

That's what I'm downloading. Help me!

Sweden seems to have a hardon for solitary confinement, that's why, and it's been criticised for it's overuse of it on a number of occasions:

http://www.thelocal.se/1927/20050822/#.UMXFq4Yyryg

http://www.thelocal.se/22620/20091013/#.UMXFuIYyryg

They even asked the UK to hold Assange in solitary confinement whilst he awaited the outcome of his extradition appeals (bear in mind, Assange still, to this day, has not been charged with anything so they were asking for solitary without even a charge being brought) but luckily British justice is at least not quite as backwards as in Sweden.

It's weird because their neighbour, Norway, has arguably the most progressive justice system in the world in contrast and the countries otherwise have a lot of shared history and culture. I don't know why the Swedes handle justice in such a barbaric backwards manner in comparison.

Sweden seems to have a hardon for solitary confinement, that's why, and it's been criticised for it's overuse of it on a number of occasions:

http://www.thelocal.se/1927/20050822/#.UMXFq4Yyryg

http://www.thelocal.se/22620/20091013/#.UMXFuIYyryg

They even asked the UK to hold Assange in solitary confinement whilst he awaited the outcome of his extradition appeals (bear in mind, Assange still, to this day, has not been charged with anything so they were asking for solitary without even a charge being brought) but luckily British justice is at least not quite as backwards as in Sweden.

It's weird because their neighbour, Norway, has arguably the most progressive justice system in the world in contrast and the countries otherwise have a lot of shared history and culture. I don't know why the Swedes handle justice in such a barbaric backwards manner in comparison.

Indefinite detention qualifies as torture. In civilized countries.

Indefinite detention is the accepted norm in military conflicts - you can be held until the conflict is over. So, I'm afriad you are quite wrong there. It is also used in many countries to keep very dangerous prisoners behind bars.

And to your other post, you stupid troll, I did not specify a country and you're cherrypicking. That is trolling.

We've already seen that Australia uses it, but so do Japan, UK, US, Sweden (and Sweden), Norway, and many other countries one generally considers part of the civilized world. Looks like you don't quite have this right.

In light of unprovoked invasion of these countries (instead of KSA),

The invasion of Afghanistan was greatly provoked - - 9/11 - perhaps you've heard of it? Afghanistan hosted Al Qaida even to the point of integrating it into the government. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia had nothing to do with 9/'11 as a government. So, you don't have this right.

the evidence of double-tap attacks on reporters and civilians,

On innocent civilians or reporters? Not so much.

executions by drone and whatever they call "collateral damage" is all that is required to make that statement valid.

The attacks by drones are attacks, not executions. You've been wrong in the particulars, and in general.

You're THE idiot. . . . you stupid troll . . . you're cherrypicking. That is trolling. . . Last, but not least, FOAD.

I guess you aren't a fan of civil discourse.

Indefinite detention qualifies as torture. In civilized countries.

Indefinite detention is the accepted norm in military conflicts - you can be held until the conflict is over. So, I'm afriad you are quite wrong there. It is also used in many countries to keep very dangerous prisoners behind bars.

And to your other post, you stupid troll, I did not specify a country and you're cherrypicking. That is trolling.

We've already seen that Australia uses it, but so do Japan, UK, US, Sweden (and Sweden), Norway, and many other countries one generally considers part of the civilized world. Looks like you don't quite have this right.

In light of unprovoked invasion of these countries (instead of KSA),

The invasion of Afghanistan was greatly provoked - - 9/11 - perhaps you've heard of it? Afghanistan hosted Al Qaida even to the point of integrating it into the government. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia had nothing to do with 9/'11 as a government. So, you don't have this right.

the evidence of double-tap attacks on reporters and civilians,

On innocent civilians or reporters? Not so much.

executions by drone and whatever they call "collateral damage" is all that is required to make that statement valid.

The attacks by drones are attacks, not executions. You've been wrong in the particulars, and in general.

You're THE idiot. . . . you stupid troll . . . you're cherrypicking. That is trolling. . . Last, but not least, FOAD.

I guess you aren't a fan of civil discourse.

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And please don't forget...

http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/suspicious.pdf

From the first comment in the article:

Exactly who is giving that money to Camobdja I've checked the aid numbers and they say nothing about 400 million Crowns. Sweden do give ~150 million Crowns per year to Cambodja. See: http://www.openaid.se/countries/kambodja

So Sweden apparently already has a regular aid budget to Cambodia.

Sweden's annual foreign aid budget is $5,3B USD, and is generally considered to be well-run. Even if the reported number is accurate, that would only be 1% of the reported annual aid budget, an amount not at all inappropriate for a country like Cambodia.

Oh, and humans suck at detecting coincidence intuitively. The sample size of possible events one could find suspicious is enormous, as is the search space on individuals around whom you might suspect a conspiracy exists. Conspiracies feed themselves because of this.