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Re:How many?
Amazing what the fuckwits will try to get away with.
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Re:How many?
Almost as many as the number of stupid 7-11 etc clerks that will except the copies.
You mean like this one ;))
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Re:Obligatory
George W. Bush is on the fake $200 bill, which was passed around as recently as last month.
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Re:Drudge Report
I get my news from outside the US
You mean like the average citizen? If half of the population was half way educated on politics and the common talking points, politics wouldn't be in the wretched state it's in right now. Can anyone say, with a straight face, that Kerry and Bush are the best this country has to offer? A person is smart, but people are stupid and easily led. The same qualities that make a successful politician are the same qualities that make a successful con artist, or successful actor, or successful sexual predator, or successful salesman. Do any of these descriptions remind you of local, state, or federal representatives past or present? They should. For all the bitching that goes on here, and around the country, we the people deserve what we get. We elect bad leaders into office; their bad decisions are represented by our bad decisions, and we deserve whatever hell they create.
But then you're getting your news from a bunch of people who have absolutely no idea what's actually going on in the country.
For all the shit it's going to create, I will say that the American population is to blame for the terrorist attacks. We twice elected Clinton, who while not completely inept concerning terrorists, did make some bad calls. He decided to strike at training camps at the same time he had to sit in front of congress about Lewinsky. Whether or not his decision was based on that timing is still debated today, but nobody will say that hitting Al-Qaeda training camps was a bad decision. We weren't in the position to send in troops, so missiles and bombs were the only plausible action. The really bad decision was to give up when the press criticized him for trying to deflect attention away from the scandal. Again, the people were to blame for electing the man, and again for criticizing his decision to attack.
Then we elected Bush, (many will still debate the election itself) who completely ignored all terrorist threats before the attacks, like the now famous memo that he received on August 6, 2001 titled Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US. Here is a scan of the original document. Here we are more than 3 years since that memo was written and the WTC attack; Bin Laden is still free, we're stuck in Iraq with the situation getting worse every day, and a whole new generation of Islamic extremists has even more reasons to hate us. We the people, not the president, have ensured that the vicious circle of hate, fear, and violence continues for another generation.
We bring it all on ourselves as long as we value charisma over substance. -
Re:Drudge Report
> Drudge Report
The original, the unbeatable.
Drudge put the Internet on the news map; all bloggers follow in his footsteps. And unrelentless in his watch over the old media, he's got the story the elites won't run. I like his lighter side, too -- he's always got the latest on celebrities from The Smoking Gun, etc. -
Just a bit of history repeating
See this archive on The Smoking Gun from a man arrested for doing the same thing in 2002. I guess someone else just took the hint and tried it again 2 years later.
"Meet Paul Seidler. The 42-year-old Wisconsin man was just busted on charges that he conducted a high-tech stalking campaign directed at a former girlfriend. Kenosha police allege that Seidler placed a Global Positioning System tracking device under the hood of the woman's car and began monitoring her movements."
Hey, it's a slow weekend, so I think a near-dupe of not-so-cutting-edge news is forgivable ;) -
Re:Good ridance-Sorry I borked a tag...
The military and the police are different parts of the government. And the CIA and other spooks is yet another. They're not at all the same organization.
They're all agents of the state.
I'm starting to wonder what you have against the police,
Having to deal with them.
In my experience, cops won't hassle you unless they think you are doing something illegal. And even then, they might let you go.
Then apparently you either come from an affluent family, or you haven't had much experiences.
Overall, though, I feel safer with a cop car around, than without it, despite the fear of getting a speeding ticket.
It's been years since my last speeding ticket, and I can't fault the cops for it. I was exceeding the speed limit. It was my own fault.
The fact that you seem to overly fear and distrust cops leads me to believe that you either have
It's not fear, it's dislike.
1) little experience with the real world
I'm coming up on 30 years of it.
2) some kind of problem with authority (teenage angst?)
See last answer.
3) are involved in something illegal
I quit smoking the green about a decade ago. So far you're 0 for 3.
I see you attend CMU, I grew up less than 15 minutes away from Oakland. Google for John Vojtas or Jeffrey Cooperstein. In 1997 the Pittsburgh police dept reached a settlement with the US DOJ to end a "pattern and practice" of police misconduct. These are just the police within a 20 mile radius of where you are right now.
There are myriad other cases like Abner Louima, Malice Green, and Byron Gillum; I could go on about itfor hours.
Why don't I trust agents of the state? Because they can't be trusted.
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Re:Good ridance
The military and the police are different parts of the government. And the CIA and other spooks is yet another. They're not at all the same organization.
They're all agents of the state.
I'm starting to wonder what you have against the police,
Having to deal with them.
In my experience, cops won't hassle you unless they think you are doing something illegal. And even then, they might let you go.
Then apparently you either come from an affluent family, or you haven't had much experiences.
Overall, though, I feel safer with a cop car around, than without it, despite the fear of getting a speeding ticket.
It's been years since my last speeding ticket, and I can't fault the cops for it. I was exceeding the speed limit. It was my own fault.
The fact that you seem to overly fear and distrust cops leads me to believe that you either have
It's not fear, it's dislike.
1) little experience with the real world2) some kind of problem with authority (teenage angst?)
See last answer.
3) are involved in something illegal
I quit smoking the green about a decade ago. So far you're 0 for 3.
I see you attend CMU, I grew up less than 15 minutes away from Oakland. Google for John Vojtas or Jeffrey Cooperstein. In 1997 the Pittsburgh police dept reached a settlement with the US DOJ to end a "pattern and practice" of police misconduct. These are just the police within a 20 mile radius of where you are right now.
There are myriad other cases like Abner Louima, Malice Green, and Byron Gillum; I could go on about itfor hours.
Why don't I trust agents of the state? Because they can't be trusted.
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Re:It could be worse, people here take $200 bills
Some idiot actually accepted a $200 bill with GW Bush on the front. Its hard to beat that. Here is the link to that article.
This seems to be an annual thing.
It happpened in Sept'03 also.
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Crime and Punishment
That's what they get for sharing free copies of "Blessed Be That City". -
Re:Atkins
The heart malfunction was invented, at best.
The cause of death was "blunt impact injury of head with epidural hematoma".
See this site for some interesting details on who invented this "heart malfunction" (which Atkins never had!). You can also see the death certificate itself.
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Re:Well
"I only want to slightly wound them."
I'm with you there, except I'd rather use a fork.
Actually, I own a gun for one reason. To overthrow the goverment. That is my right as allowed by the constitution. There is no other reason for owning a gun.
I believe it was 'arms' and it was to protect against 'tyranny'. Mention that you have it for overthrowing government in the wrong circles and the nice men from the treasury department might pop 'round for a word. On a lighter note, the US appears to be a terrible shot if you keep missing the government every year.
The funny thing is I actually really like the US Government structure, it's just that I think the founding fathers considered a united front, rather than people testing out bulletproof vests...
Anyway, I apologise for being a horrendous prick the first time around. Bad day.
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Re:Quote from the article.
Here's the latest example of "cultural" and "information control":
End Of Road For GOTMILF License Plate
"Offensive" vanity tag yanked by Washington officials
JULY 21--This is the story of GOTMILF. In May 2002, Michael Syravong filed the below "personalized license plate application" with Washington's Department of Licensing. GOTMILF was Syravong's first choice among the three possible personalized tags he listed on the state form (he would have settled for SUPL8EZ or RCKSTAR). Asked for the meaning of GOTMILF, Syravong wrote, "Manual Inline Lift Fluctuator," which he would later claim was some kind of automotive gizmo. The 25-year-old software engineer's license plate choice was, amazingly, approved by bureaucrats who obviously never saw the film "American Pie" and were clueless about the acronym's real meaning. Unfortunately for Syravong, however, two offended citizens knew that the plate was actually his sly play on the Got Milk? slogan crossed with the raunchy acronym. In February, 21 months after Syravong got the personalized plate for his Toyota (pictured above), an aggrieved Washingtonian e-mailed a complaint to state officials. A second beef was received in April from a disgusted Snohomish parent who did not want "my children seeing this and inquiring as to what it means." Acting on the first complaint, state officials wrote Syravong seeking his response to the complaint. Fighting to keep GOTMILF, he responded with a letter that desperately tried to explain away his license plate. Despite Syravong's invocation of Bill of Rights protections, members of Washington's Personalized Plate Review Committee were not swayed by his argument--and even hinted that he may have committed a crime (making a false or misleading statement to a public servant) when he submitted his original plate application. In April, the state review committee voted to cancel Syravong's tag. He got the bad news in an April 13 letter chiding him for providing "inconsistent information regarding the definition of the plate." Stripped of GOTMILF, Syravong was forced to replace his distinctive tag with PUNISHR. We're counting the days until a motorist writes in to complain that Syravong's new plate advocates domestic violence or has S&M undertones. (9 pages)
This is what you get if you allow people to "control information and culture".
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Re:WTF?
Insightful? I object to the rating more than this ignorant troll!
1)Thrown out your Big Iron and spent an equivilent amount on a Windows cluster
Or maybe your company is one of the thousands that have battalions of MCSEs and volume licensing agreements with MS, so a Windows platform decision happens to make more sense.
I like the auto shop mentality though.
2) Hired a bunch of people without checking if they knew the language your system is built on
Huh?
3) Got paid off by Microsoft (ie: Uni. of Waterloo)
No, Lone Gunman-boy, it's usually the other way around; it'll cost you a couple grand to lay down your first line of .NET code. The MS camp isn't the one with free IDEs, open source OS and app servers, and free databases.
4) something "easy" instead of something "stable"
Any examples or metrics, or are you just pulling that out of your ass? I have many issues with the .NET Framework, but stability is not among them.
C# is the language of people who don't know how to fucking program. They like it because it works like VB for the GUI
You're really shooting your argument in the foot here. C# is such a direct ripoff of Java that one can change a few package and class names in Java source and compile it in .NET. Given this, you cannot throw shit at the C# language without getting a lot of it on Java.
alows them to do the stupid OO stuff they learned
Wow, you're totally showing your ass here. You're a Java/J2EE fanboy, but OO is "stupid" introductory stuff? Anybody see the Chappelle's Show sketch about Clayton Bigsby, the blind white supremacist who, unbeknownst to himself, is black?
They are the ones who use a 3 meg C# app to do the work of a 30 line perl script.
Ah, you're a perl man. I understand now why you eschew OO. Whenever perl guys throw down the "how many lines" thing, I think of that scene in the movie "Amadeus" when Emperor Joseph II tells Mozart that "There are too many notes." Shit, if I was half the developer you are, I would give my PM my estimates in number of lines, not number of hours. Why stop there? Code readability/maintainability and object-oriented archtecture have no place in enterprise software solutions, which explains why perl is sweeping the nation as the #1 language of choice for large enterprise apps.
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Re:If only...
But you GOTTA buy it! it is the MATRIX! And not only that, Larry Wachowski needs the money for his next Transformation Operation
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They do far worse than playing MMOG's !
If only this guy had a laptop. EQ would have been a minor infraction compared to his chosen alternative.
Long live the US Justice system !
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Re:Assumptions re: judges
MMORPG's? How tame. You don't even want to know what the bored judges in Oklahoma are doing while they're in court:
Visitors to Thompson's Creek County courtroom reported hearing a "swooshing" sound coming from the bench, a noise the court reporter said "sounded like a blood pressure cuff being pumped up." -
Re:BEFORE the flamewar commences...
But I wouldn't be angry at you, except you made that damnable "limousine liberal" crack. If you think it's possible to get rich off of producing documentaries than you are a schmuck, pardon my Yiddish.
Hmm ... I've got $24M reasons, in one weekend, to almost disagree. Why almost? Because a real documentary provides real facts, not distortions, and tries to promote debate between both sides, and not serve as mere propaganda for only one side. F9/11 is many things; one-sided is absolutely one of them.
He had to sell his home to get Roger & Me made.
And now he owns two, and is even registered to vote in both places. This does not make him appear in touch with the working class & everyman. -
Slashdot idol!The judge with a pump:
JUNE 24--While seated on the bench, an Oklahoma judge used a male enhancement pump, shaved and oiled his nether region, and pleasured himself, state officials charged yesterday in a petition to remove the jurist. According to the below complaint filed by the Oklahoma Attorney General, Donald D. Thompson, 57, was caught in the act by a clerk, trial witnesses, and his longtime court reporter (these unsettling first-hand accounts will make you wonder what's going on under other black robes). Visitors to Thompson's Creek County courtroom reported hearing a "swooshing" sound coming from the bench, a noise the court reporter said "sounded like a blood pressure cuff being pumped up." Thompson, the complaint charges, even pumped himself up during an August 2003 murder trial.
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Re:Security? Bypassed & what else he was up toSmathers was using another employee's id which, unlike Jason Smathers, had access rights to the Data Warehouse
and his AOL work computer
p.3 Section 8, subsection (6):
computer records discovered in the AOL work computer assigned to SMATHERS included highly unusual computerized code and instructions necessary for and capable of stealing the list from AOL's secure databaseApparently once he had access he first tried to get everything, but the queries results were too large for things to succeed! Then he queried a single AOL account, his own!
After that he came back two weeks later with the scheme of trying all the accounts that start with A, then all the accounts that start with B and so on...
Even more fun was that he was apparently doing this all from his AOL company laptop via a nice VPN from his home. He didn't even have to go into the office to steal...
Probing further...
Since court papers give out his AOL employee email, JasonS2e@aol.com, we can find out via Google Groups, that Mr. Smathers was busy using the Internet to:
- Pump Penny stocks
- Steal satellite TV
- Bypass DVD copy protection
- Use toothpaste to fix scratched audio CD
- Ignoring Programming errors
- Reselling vacation packages
- Figuring out how to use RAS for dialup
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Re:Security? Bypassed & what else he was up toSmathers was using another employee's id which, unlike Jason Smathers, had access rights to the Data Warehouse
and his AOL work computer
p.3 Section 8, subsection (6):
computer records discovered in the AOL work computer assigned to SMATHERS included highly unusual computerized code and instructions necessary for and capable of stealing the list from AOL's secure databaseApparently once he had access he first tried to get everything, but the queries results were too large for things to succeed! Then he queried a single AOL account, his own!
After that he came back two weeks later with the scheme of trying all the accounts that start with A, then all the accounts that start with B and so on...
Even more fun was that he was apparently doing this all from his AOL company laptop via a nice VPN from his home. He didn't even have to go into the office to steal...
Probing further...
Since court papers give out his AOL employee email, JasonS2e@aol.com, we can find out via Google Groups, that Mr. Smathers was busy using the Internet to:
- Pump Penny stocks
- Steal satellite TV
- Bypass DVD copy protection
- Use toothpaste to fix scratched audio CD
- Ignoring Programming errors
- Reselling vacation packages
- Figuring out how to use RAS for dialup
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Re:Security? Bypassed & what else he was up toSmathers was using another employee's id which, unlike Jason Smathers, had access rights to the Data Warehouse
and his AOL work computer
p.3 Section 8, subsection (6):
computer records discovered in the AOL work computer assigned to SMATHERS included highly unusual computerized code and instructions necessary for and capable of stealing the list from AOL's secure databaseApparently once he had access he first tried to get everything, but the queries results were too large for things to succeed! Then he queried a single AOL account, his own!
After that he came back two weeks later with the scheme of trying all the accounts that start with A, then all the accounts that start with B and so on...
Even more fun was that he was apparently doing this all from his AOL company laptop via a nice VPN from his home. He didn't even have to go into the office to steal...
Probing further...
Since court papers give out his AOL employee email, JasonS2e@aol.com, we can find out via Google Groups, that Mr. Smathers was busy using the Internet to:
- Pump Penny stocks
- Steal satellite TV
- Bypass DVD copy protection
- Use toothpaste to fix scratched audio CD
- Ignoring Programming errors
- Reselling vacation packages
- Figuring out how to use RAS for dialup
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Re:Security? Bypassed & what else he was up toSmathers was using another employee's id which, unlike Jason Smathers, had access rights to the Data Warehouse
and his AOL work computer
p.3 Section 8, subsection (6):
computer records discovered in the AOL work computer assigned to SMATHERS included highly unusual computerized code and instructions necessary for and capable of stealing the list from AOL's secure databaseApparently once he had access he first tried to get everything, but the queries results were too large for things to succeed! Then he queried a single AOL account, his own!
After that he came back two weeks later with the scheme of trying all the accounts that start with A, then all the accounts that start with B and so on...
Even more fun was that he was apparently doing this all from his AOL company laptop via a nice VPN from his home. He didn't even have to go into the office to steal...
Probing further...
Since court papers give out his AOL employee email, JasonS2e@aol.com, we can find out via Google Groups, that Mr. Smathers was busy using the Internet to:
- Pump Penny stocks
- Steal satellite TV
- Bypass DVD copy protection
- Use toothpaste to fix scratched audio CD
- Ignoring Programming errors
- Reselling vacation packages
- Figuring out how to use RAS for dialup
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Update: Spammer charged!
From The Smoking Gun:
Pair Nailed In AOL Spam Scheme Arrested in theft of firm's 30 million subscriber list
JUNE 23--An AOL software engineer was arrested today for stealing the company's entire subscriber list--totaling 92 million screen names--and selling it to a 21-year-old Las Vegas spammer. According to the below federal criminal complaint, Jason Smathers, 24, last year illegally accessed the highly confidential AOL list by using another employee's identification codes. Smathers, who worked in AOL's Dulles, Virginia office, then allegedly sold the list to Sean Dunaway, who used the AOL database to promote his own online gambling business and who also sold the list for $52,000 to fellow spammers, one of whom used the names "for purposes of marketing herbal penile enlargement pills," according to the complaint. AOL's subscriber base is about 30 million individual customers, who account for 92 million different screen names. Prosecutors also contend that Smathers subsequently sold Hathaway an updated AOL customer list--this one with approximately 18 million names--for $100,000. Both men have been charged with conspiracy, which carries a maximum prison sentence of five years. The Secret Service probe was aided by a spammer who purchased the two lists from Dunaway and is now seeking "leniency concerning his/her participation" in the AOL conspiracy, notes the complaint. (13 pages) -
smoking gun link
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Freedom of information is great...
Get it all here.
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Perhaps...
Section 1037(a)(2), (b)(2)(C), and (b)(2)(E) of Title 18 of the USC, at least according to these court documents.
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But then he has to write his will, tooFor my money, Nixon's "The astronauts will die on the moon" speech is the hardest, oddest example of "the other speech" out there. Someone dies suddenly in an accident, that's understandable -- but the idea of being stranded up there unable to get back, that'd be a hard moment for any President to handle.
Tricky Dick did pretty well with the topic.
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Re:Lawsuit!!!
You think that's great? Check out the Smoking Gun's pick of 2003 Legal Document of the Year, about a kid who was punished for saying "fuck" in school. The lawyer who wrote this deserves some sort of award...
Item #6 has the best sentence in the whole thing: "Literally millions of Fucking records have been destributed..." -
Re:beastie boys website bbs thread
beastie boys would have liked it not to be protected but couldn't help.
These guys have been around for 20 years, and have a huuuuuge, loyal fan base.
In light of that, you'd think they'd be able to extract a few concessions from their record company. I guess all these big, long-lived acts are too busy putting outlandish things into their performance riders to concern themselves with doing something for their fans. -
Re:As Grandpa Al Lewis Once Said...
The FCC isn't just a big censorship machine, it has good points too. That whole Howard Stern thing is ridiculous, and it would be hilarious if Oprah got fined, but don't overreact and decide to get rid of it just for that reason.
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Hookers and Craq
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New Microsoft .NET Solution
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Re:Well, I wonder why this kind of pseudo news
First, this is a bad example, the pictures were taken at least three months ago. Second, they were first published by the NYT.
"At least" is a good qualifer for something from Oct-Dec 2003, more like six months. And 60 Minutes II and the Washington Post have been the first two with pics, not the NYT. You're quite correct that the digital nature of the photograph really has no bearing; the pictures would look the same in the grain of film.
While I'm posting, anyone check out the original Army report? The Smoking Gun has a PDF.
Allow me to finish my post by quoting my favorite section from the fifty-three page report (n.b. Too long for Rumsfield to read):
6. (S) I find that the intentional abuse of detainees by military police personnel included the following acts:
a. (S) Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet;
b. (S) Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees;
c. (S) Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing;
d. (S) Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time;
e. (S) Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear;
f. (S) Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped;
g. (S) Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them;
h. (S) Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture;
i. (S) Writing "I am a Rapest" (sic) on the leg of a detainee alleged to have forcibly raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked;
j. (S) Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female Soldier pose for a picture;
k. (S) A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee;
l. (S) Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee;
m. (S) Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees. (ANNEXES 25 and 26)8. (U) In addition, several detainees also described the following acts of abuse, which under the circumstances, I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses (ANNEX 26):
a. (U) Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees;
b. (U) Threatening detainees with a charged 9mm pistol;
c. (U) Pouring cold water on naked detainees;
d. (U) Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair;
e. (U) Threatening male detainees with rape;
f. (U) Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell;
g. (U) Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick.
h. (U) Using military working dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting a detainee. -
Re:Law out of control!
Is that a metaphor for life in Asia or New York?
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Re:We understand the qualifiers, but still...Unfortunately, it communicates "sloppy, stoned bird,"
Hey, I knew I'd seen that face before!
:-) Or maybe that was here.I agree with you exactly. It's not bad for a child's drawing, but the seagull makes Foghorn Leghorn look like a dignified bird in comparison. The seagull is funny, but it's funny in a bad way, i.e., not appropriate for school kids, because it could be seen as promoting illegal drug use, sexual activity (see other posts), and plain daftness. Seriously, the first thing the bird's disheveled hair and disoriented look made me think of was Saddam Hussein when he was pulled out of his spiderhole.
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Tyco?
Does this mean that the liquid will be pissed out by an ice sculpture of David?
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I know it's hackneyed... but...
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The Smoking Gun?
Since when did The Smoking Gun get involved in this case?
Oh wait, you mean THE SCO GROUP.
Well why don't you just say "SCO" like every other human on the planet?
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Re:IBM 1 TSG 0
Man...don't refer to SCO by TSG. I know it stands for The SCO Group, but you're also spoiling the good name of The Smoking Gun...
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Re:I'm suing Dell
Maybe this is why you never got it:
Dude Busted for Pot -
Re:Paging the DoJ...
Let's draw attention to this smoking gun, shall we?
Great idea! I can't wait until the The Smoking Gun gets a hold of Darl's mugshots. They did such a great job with the Enron guy... -
Re:Paging the DoJ...
Let's draw attention to this smoking gun, shall we?
Great idea! I can't wait until the The Smoking Gun gets a hold of Darl's mugshots. They did such a great job with the Enron guy... -
Re-Select Me For "President": +1, Thoughtful
Although I can't fully document my past, I ask every
patriotic voter, to re-select me for another 4 years to dictate United States policy for the Cheney-Rumsfeld regime.
Very truly yours,
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It's only OK for Eminem to steal music
It had to already be mentioned, but if not here it is. The Slim Shady LP sampled a song called Pigs Go Home and was sued by the current copyright owner, a 70 year old grandmother.
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Re:Right to request ID
I realize I may be feeding the troll, but this is something definitely worth knowing:
4. Would giving the cop the finger, making pig noises, and speaking in intimate terms about his mother, constitute a crime as well?
Actually, I already know the answer to this. Cops are treated as Special Citizens in our republic. While it is legal to tease, insult, or be disrespectful of a regular citizen, to do so to a POLICE OFFICER is a serious, serious crime.
ACTUALLY, this is not at all a crime. See the following summaries of two court cases which have upheld your right to verbally abuse a police officer as part of your constitutionally protected speech: (originally seen on the smoking gun some time ago in regards to this case.)
4. A juvenile telling a police officer "fuck you" was held to be constitutionally protected speech. R.I.T. v. State, 675 So.2d 97 (Ala. Cr. App. 1995) (conviction for disorderly conduct overturned). The R.I.T. court reasoned that police officers are specially trained to deal with vulgarities and situations when others may be verbally abusive towards them, and thus "fuck you" was not likely to provoke a violent response.
5. A juvenile calling a police officer a "fucking pig, fuckin' kangaroo" and telling the officer "fuck you" during a traffic contact was found to be constitutionally protected speech. State v. John W., 418 A.2d 1097 (Me. 1980). Just like the R.I.T. court, Id., the John W. court also reasoned that police officers deal with these types of situations on an every day basis and therefore "fucking pig, fuckin' kangaroo and fuck you" were not likely to invoke a violent response. -
FUCK YOU BUSH FAGGOTS:
You're going down!! FUCK YOU BUSH!!! See him drunk off his ass!!.
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HEY BUSH FAGGOTS!!!
You're going down!! FUCK YOU BUSH!!! See him drunk off his ass!!
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Re:Reference validity and competition
The "Fuck" article was once cited in a court document in the US. (Reference)
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Re:Admitting you're a dork?How many of you would rather go to jail than admit you're a dork?
Tell the truth now, those shower scenes in OZ can get pretty hot.
Mmmmm, Chris Meloni
Truth be told, you're more likely to end up with this uuurrghh!