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Moonset on the 13th is well after dawn.

This is a better link, it says when and where you can view it. http://www.timeanddate.com/ecl...

Joshua, a self-described ''white hat'' security researcher, said he was motivated by a desire to improve online security. He first contacted PTV by email on Boxing Day, but received no response. He later contacted Fairfax Media.

Schoolboy hacks Public Transport Victoria website

The Age is owned by Faitax Media.

Boxing Day in Australia is a public holiday.

It's a very strange time of year for an sixteen year old kid to be trying to gain the attention of anyone in or out of government. People are on vacation. Offices are closed or very thinly staffed...

Unauthorized access to systems and data --- white hat or black hat hacking --- is a crime under Australian law.

The end doesn't justify the means.

That's repetition, not contradiction. I say there is no proof in science, then I say there is no proof in science. Though, in your defense, I made a typo: I should have capitalized "logic" as "Logic", so perhaps that threw you off

That's not what you said, and changing 'logic' to 'Logic' makes no difference. You are first claiming that math is not science, which is wrong.

It is, and I did, because it's not (though to be fair, I didn't specify a "natural science". One could argue that any body of knowledge is a science, but let's stick to natural sciences, else we could include just about anything, like the "science" of sewing or numerology).

Next you are claiming that "logic" is a field of science or subject of science, which is absolutely wrong (take an entry level Philosophy class if you are that lost).

I didn't. Find me quoted as saying "logic is science" and I'll mail you a Kennedy half dollar. Everything I said is all right up there ^^^.

Lastly, you claim that no other field of science has proven anything which is also wrong.

That's true, despite your assertions otherwise. And again, this is natural science we're talking about. The natural sciences don't prove things because there is no one final end-all, be-all fact to find about any given aspect of the natural world. Any new evidence can modify or nullify what we have already observed.

Your next paragraph seems rather incoherent, so let me get this straight. You don't agree that we can ever prove evolution, so I guess the work that we have done on genetics proving large portions of the complete theory are not proven.

We can't, because theories are provable in the same way the number 9 is salty to the touch. It doesn't make sense. What is the "complete theory" of Evolution? Which fact, once discovered, will close the books on ToE so we never have to study it anymore? That we have such a large body of knowledge about evolution is what makes it such a strong theory, one of the strongest theories of the natural world we have. There's still no proof of anything in there, though.

Hrm, something is wrong with that line of thinking.

In your gravity example, by your own thoughts you must accept Newton's Law as factual.

No, I accept it as a law, and I accept that it, like all scientific laws, only apply in limited conditions and limited circumstances. Newton's Law it only applies in weak gravitational fields. At subatomic levels or in immense gravity fields, for example, Newton's Law is invalid. But it still is immensely useful in day to day life, like predicting eclipses or firing missiles at Iraqi weddings.

The people that started looking at merging Einstein's work and Newton's work were heathens and of course those guys that showed where Einstein's work fails are simply blasphemous!

Einstein is the people who merged Einstein's work with Newton's work, and he called it the Theory of General Relativity. (As an agnostic, I guess he technically was also a heathen.) There is no blasphemy in science, only in religion. I'm beginning to suspect you are secretly an intelligent design proponent.

And of course any theory we have of gravity, even when it does not work, must be proven by your way of thinking.

That's something you just made up about me, especially in light of the fact that I must have said about 30 times already that theories are unprovable by their very nature, and can be completely undermined by even a single piece of evidence that contradicts all previous observations. Also, what I said about Newton's Law about two paragraphs up.

Your failure to contemplate theories of gravity in relation to evolutio

Actually, it was originally "seasonal time", but the British now call it "Summer Time" and the Americans (along with Australians, most Russians, Canadians, Israelis, etc.) call it something equivalent to "Daylight Saving Time". The French call it "Advanced Time".

http://rsnz.natlib.govt.nz/volume/rsnz_31/rsnz_31_00_008570.html
http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/

Team Amerophobia loses the point.

Rats, AZ is mountain.

Except when it's not. . . . Or am I jumping the gun with this annual flamefest topic by a few days? Nevermind, forget I wrote that.

Weather prediction? Are you kidding me? There have been enormous gains in weather prediction. A 300 nmi zone for a hurricane 3 days out 20 years ago is now a 100 km zone. A 5 day forecast today is as accurate as a 2 day forecast 20 years ago.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/which-hurricane-forecast-model-should-you-trust
http://www.timeanddate.com/weather/forecast-accuracy-time.html

Windows 7 is barely 3 years old its not like its going anywhere anytime soon.

False, if "soon" is more than about 2408 days.

Windows 7 death watch

Time left until 00:00:00 January 14, 2020, Redmond Standard Time: 2407 days, 13 hours, 14 minutes, 19 seconds, no 18, no 17, no arrrg, it won't stop going down.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20140407T115959&p0=1244&msg=Windows+XP+End+Of+Life

i wonder how many websites and programs are now NOT supporting XP??

in 300 days i bet a lot of them won't

Or This. Check out the API section. You'll have to drill down a couple of times.

No, I don't work for them, but I use the freebee version on my website. You'd have to pay if you were a company (especially the BCC), but it's only a few hundred bucks a year. Certainly less than paying 100 hours for a developer.

But describing 14:00 as morning is a bit too much.

Here's The World Clock. ;)

http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/fullscreen.html?mode=a&iso=20140407T115959&year=2014&month=4&day=7&hour=11&min=59&sec=59&p0=1244&msg=Windows%20XP%20End%20Of%20Life

352 days remaining

UPDATE: $361,199 - from 1123 donors!

That's 21 new donors and $35,840 added since last time - somebody gave big!

Won't you please add even $5 more?

Twelve days left (inclusively) till New Year...

--libman

You have that backwards.

http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/edt.html

EDT is 4 hours behind of Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) Note that EDT is a daylight saving time/summer time zone. It is generally only used during the summer in the places listed below, during the winter EST is used instead.

EST starts Sunday.

Start making noise on the Y2K level that Business Folks need to migrate off of XP for multiple reasons.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20140408T17&p0=1244&msg=XP+End+Of+Life ---- timer for you

personally i would if i was Google begin getting Snarky and then begin BLOCKING XP/MSIE 6 beginning april 1 2014

Eclipse start time: 4:56PM Eastern

No idea where you got that link from, but as the Fine Article says, the eclipse actually "begins at 6:36 p.m. EDT (2236 GMT) in southern China." And it takes some time for it to move eastward from there to the US; it didn't start where I am until some time around 7:00pm CDT (8:00pm EDT). While I didn't depend on /. to tell me about the eclipse, if I did, I would've been informed in time.

Posted by timothy on Sunday May 20, @05:32PM

Eclipse start time: 4:56PM Eastern

Congratulations Slashdot. You've taken an astronomical phenomenon predicted decades in advance, which last occurred in the U.S. 18 years ago, and informed your membership of it a half hour after it began. But hey, we learned immediately that Zuckerberg got married; that's what's important to nerds, right?

http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar/2012-may-20 is a nice resource.

3 AM in New York

Well, you can just look it up, of course. However, the story doesn't seem to have been posted around 21:00 EST :-)

Not for another 22 minutes or so. See here: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/full.html?sort=2.

While it may get your name on the big stage, isn't a ton of money. Normal internships I worked for my engineering degree started mid May, ended mid August. So lets say May 16 - August 19, which is 95 days. You'll probably only work 5/7ths of those days or ~67 days, 8 hours a day for 536 hours.

Or around $10 an hour. Now, most certainly if you're good you can deliver it in much less time. But at the same time. $10/hour is what I made after my freshmen year in 2002. I think I was making around $19-20/hr by 2004 the year before my senior year.

That was for Mechanical Engineering. I'm not sure if paid internships for CS majors pay that much or if you even have internships like those in engineering. But to me, that just doesn't seem like a ton of money. But like I said, you do get your name forever etched into a project and on Google's website.

Hmm SSW in Tokyo. Lets hope the operators have the freedom to wait for a westerly.

Hmm, the reason it looks relatively dull is because it was taken in early to mid-March, when the Sun would be only around 35 degrees in altitude (at noon). The same shot in mid-summer (when the sun reaches the high 50s in altitude over Ireland) would look much more vivid.

I've not been to Ireland, but here's a picture taken at 13:08 on 24th February in London (29* solar noon altitude, here). The colours are reasonably accurate (I think that's taken with the camera's default setting). When you get a bright, clear day here it's surprising how vivid everything looks.

http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/russia-winter-time.html :

"I have made a decision to cancel the move back to 'winter' time starting from autumn this year", Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday, February 8, 2011. The new legislation eliminates the yearly switch between standard time and daylight saving time.

I totally agree, and I love the fact that Russia just "did it". Maybe other European countries won't be so scared if they can follow the lead instead of taking charge themselves so that we can finally end the nonsense.

Oh and by the way I live in Norway, were DST has a pretty strong effect on the sunlight. Just about every autumn the DST is discussed in the media, because people are so sick and tired of messing up their day rhythm. We don't care about the sunlight, we adapt, but changing the time is brutal on the sleep pattern.

here in Scotland, where I live, on the winter solstice dawn will be at 0943hrs whereas Londoners see the sunrise a whole 40mins earlier. Twilight will last longer the farther north one is as well so it won't be fully light until around 1000Hrs.

If Scotland does vote not to adopt the new timezone - all computer systems will have to be changed to reflect the new TZ data. It still pisses me off that Fedora Linux does not recognise "Edinburgh" as a capital when selecting the TZ during installation but it does recognise USA state capitals.

The current non adjusted BST time makes it unpleasent to leave work at 5pm in the dark for the larger population during the middle of winter.

An extra hour adjusted would eg change the sunset from 4pm to 5pm in the London area on 1st of January.

After February or earlier than November would this extra hour mean a more "happy" population with that extra light for their own personal/family time? Would the NHS dispense less Prozac?

OOops. Messed up the calculations with time. 6AMWest Coast == 9AMET, so it's 11PM in Japan and 10PM in Hong Kong --unlike what I stated for them, it's not very comfortable for the IP-starving Asians at all, and pretty much nerd-food that isn't relevant to the monetary interests of the apparent target timezones --the snail-pace-adopter giants of the USA. For the timezone-curious, have a look at your own destinations

IPv6 is still not nearly as "polished" as IPv4. Talk at the 27th Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin: "Recent advances in IPv6 insecurities" in about 4 hours. The talk is in English, a live stream available.

>>>> FOCUS ON 122.181.180.181 (AIPLEX) (TCP port 80, 3-4 threads - No 'Wait for Reply') (TCP MESSAGE "payback is a bitch")

>>>> CURRENT STATUS [UP!] http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/aiplex.com >>> USE LOIC [SAFE] http://http//sourceforge.net/projects/loic/ >>> Linuxers use SLOWLORIS, it's super effective! In fact its more effective then javaloic. >>> MACS USE JAVALOIC >>> Timer see http://www.tinyurl.com/riaatimer >>> AIPLEX WILL GO UP AND DOWN, IT AUTO REBOOTS >>> NEWFAGS PLEASE SEE RULES AT http://pastebin.ca/1943830

Time of the announcement around the world

I'd count dating historical observations of solar eclipses as forensic astronomy, and I think was done well before 30 years ago. Here are some examples.

There are also celestial alignments of pyramids and stone circles - although it would have to be a stellar alignment to count, as the sun doesn't change its path over historical times.

In 2010, memorial day is May 31st. The balloon is scheduled to fly on 2010-05-30T11:00:00+0.

Unable to translate time zones?

Fine. I did a Google search for time zones. Took the first link it returned http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
Sorted by country. Berlin, DE is currently at 2:09 AM. New York is currently at 8:09 PM. So, 6 hours difference. Add 6 hours to NY's 04:00, you get 10:00 AM. Or, get your but out there NOW!

here.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=25&year=2009&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=179

I think you'd just be pissing off most of Africa and Europe then.

Now, don't you wish you wished for a big titted blond bikini model, a private jet, and a hundred million dollars?

Too late! Bwahahahahahahahah!

I live in Japan and it's 02-April-2009, you insensitive clod!

Unless you're in: India, Pakistan, Nepal or certain parts of New Zealand.

it will be televised on the 22, 14.00 ( Massachusetts time )
This is the list for the other timezones for those of you who want to see it :P

it will be televised on the 22, 14.00 ( Massachusetts time )
this is the list for the other timezones for those of you who want to see it :P

Southern hemisphere will be coming into summer soon and lots of countries appear to use DST in our northern winter months.
http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst2008b.html

for those wondering what time this is happening in local time http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=9&day=10&year=2008&hour=9&min=0&sec=0&p1=37

Beijing is 16 hours ahead of US Eastern Dayliight Time.

Actually, Beijing is 12 hours ahead of EDT. So says World Clock.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=6&day=17&year=2008&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=224&sort=1 For the folks that don't want to do math...

It's already April 1st in some parts of the world.

This story is highly entertaining, but I think Fake Steve posted it about 3 months and 10 days too early.

I live at 5 degrees east. Thus, I know that because I'm at GMT+1, the sun will be exactly in the south at 12:40 PM. ...Except the exact time the meridian passes under the sun varies throughout the year since the Earth's orbit isn't circular.

Don't get me wrong - I think removing the leap second is just silly but your point is rather bogus.

See http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

just to tie things together
http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter. html?month=04&day=25&year=2007&hour=16&min=00&sec= 00&p0=179

gives you a countdown to "Hells Bells" at this point they need to
A get above $1.00 for 10 days
B maintain the other requirements
C fight an Armageddon level filing (the constructive trust filing by Novell)

IF ABC does fails Then TSCOG is D E A D (in full monty python flying circus fashion )

There's no real point in timezones. Everyone should use UTC. After the shock of having to go in at "10pm", you'll get used to it. Or Internet Time