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It is confusing, because it validates TIME CUBE !

The TIMECUBE.

Man, I never thought I'd see a kook who could rival Archimedes (nee Ludwig) Plutonium for volume and sheer *density*, and I'm damned if I know how I missed out on timecube/Gene Ray all this time, but I just blew half an afternoon off trying to follow his shtick through, and hey, this is some King Kook Shit, Willis!

My favourite line culled from this afternoon's readings: In the Scientific Proof from Cubic Awareness Online,

Man, I'll say. And I started off intending to argue the 'more entertaining' assertion, but am rendered speechless and definitely consider myself heartily entertained.

And then the next 120 pages are disclosures, articles, correspondance, photos of cars, editorial cartoons and song lyrics. I am NOT joking.

Appendix B: An invitation to drive a XEBRA electric car
Appendix E: Some spam about a psychology professor and techniques for memorization.
Appendix UU: Cartoons
Appendix BBB: The lyrics to 90 Pounds SUV

There's more common sense at the Time Cube

or the time cube http://www.timecube.com/ Is this the genetic religosity thread, i'm lost in tequila and beer? Cop scanner: Thir'is is a large goat in the road. Cops removing equestrians from the roadway. Is a goat a equestrian?

For some reason, this reminded me of the Timecube.

...some Cubist web pages.

We already have this one page about cube stuff. We don't need a single more, you dog brain student.

There is only one cube.
http://timecube.com/

After doing a little light reading inspired by your .sig, I'm just going to smile passively, politley agree to everything you say, and back slowly away.

Slowly, slowly away...

But seriously:

Ah, yes. Rules of engagement. Wikipedia is not an authoritative source, unless it is. I was insulating against the "Hurk, there's nevar bin inny such thing!!1!" reponses. Wikipedia is a convenient reference for such puposes. To be fair, I don't recall hearing the phrase "global cooling" until after the advent of "global warming". I believe it was actually reported at the time as "Are We Entering a New Ice Age?"

I am not an authority on the climate. Most of my exposure is from popular media. I read articles, papers, op/ed pieces, so on and so forth. The energy crisis, global cooling, commie reds and nuclear winter, global warming, terrorism - whatever the topic of the day is that is going to end us all generates the same hysterics. Yet, we still have gas, I have never been run over by a glacier, I have never been recruited by the communist party, I have never been nuked, I have never been baked out of my habitat, I have never been car-bombed. Yes, I recognize that all of these things are real to a greater or lesser extent, and that people have been affected by them to a greater or lesser extent, some quite catestrophically. I feel for those people, at least inasmuch as I wish no ill upon anybody, but my personal exposure has always been at the receiving end of a televised talking head.

So please forgive me if I don't have the will to dance about the current superstitious campfire. Forgive me if I seem a bit cynical about "consensus" - I am. Forgive me if my recollection seems tainted by popular media - it is.

But here's the thing: in spite of the wikipedians saying that there was never a consensus, there were expert talking heads saying we were entering an ice age, just as there are expert talking heads now. I didn't believe them, either, I bring them up only as a counterpoint.

The fact is, there still isn't consensus. I am not alone questioning the impact of humans. People far smarter than I, who are experts, ask the same questions. See what Dr. Tim Ball has to say. Or Professor C.R. de Freitas (apologies, PDF... but very informative and with sources listed. A very brief unsourced summary is here). Wikipedia (dare I?) has a list of scientists that doubt one aspect or another of the "global warming consensus". I'll even acknowledge that the first line says "A small minority of scientists", but that does not change the fact that some of their concerns with the current fervor sound very reasonable to me.

OTOH, people far smarter than I, who are also experts, say we are the cause. The experts do not agree. I choose to side with the skeptics. And that, basically, is all I have to say.

And there's Nature's simultaneous Four Day Rotation in One Earth Rotation. And don't you DARE try to match it!

That's easy. Just whitelist all the pages which are not social networking pages.

And that would be porn, with a few slides of usable content.

Do you deny the power of the Time Cube?
http://www.timecube.com/

Indeed. I was half expecting he was going to tell us that we have been educated stupid

Because, your ignorance brought about by your education has ignored the Time Cube's rotation.

No human or god can match Nature's simultaneous 4 day rotation in 1 Earth rotation.

No human has a right to believe wrong - for that would be evil thinking.

There is one worse thing yet:

A petrified Natalie Portman mounted Netcraft laser* carried by a shark full of hot grits propelled by old people from Korea.... running Linux.... on rails... inside a warrantless timecube.

* The ultimate weapon - everything it points to is dying.

Sorry, -1 points because you aren't allowed to mention Timecube without putting in a link to Timecube so that everyone can experience cubic salvation. Preferably several.

Seriously, though, I understand something about these topics, and a) I wouldn't be surprised at all if that knifepoint was where the damn value stayed for another decade or so, seeing as Nature (the bitch, not the magazine) seems to quite enjoy placing these geometry-of-space constants so close to the critical values that we can't say a thing for sure. b) is that it's a cute theory and an interesting geometry, but frankly I haven't seen anything so far that convinces me that it's right.

But either way, you're correct - this does not appear to be crackpot stuff (I haven't read the peer-reviewed article, but I'll trust that it's there). You can always tell, because the real loonies always talk about how wrong Einstein was.

Timecube sig:
Ignorance of 4 days is evil, Evil educators teach 1 day. 1 day will destroy humans.

Sorry, -1 points because you aren't allowed to mention Timecube without putting in a link to Timecube so that everyone can experience cubic salvation. Preferably several.

Seriously, though, I understand something about these topics, and a) I wouldn't be surprised at all if that knifepoint was where the damn value stayed for another decade or so, seeing as Nature (the bitch, not the magazine) seems to quite enjoy placing these geometry-of-space constants so close to the critical values that we can't say a thing for sure. b) is that it's a cute theory and an interesting geometry, but frankly I haven't seen anything so far that convinces me that it's right.

But either way, you're correct - this does not appear to be crackpot stuff (I haven't read the peer-reviewed article, but I'll trust that it's there). You can always tell, because the real loonies always talk about how wrong Einstein was.

Timecube sig:
Ignorance of 4 days is evil, Evil educators teach 1 day. 1 day will destroy humans.

Sorry, -1 points because you aren't allowed to mention Timecube without putting in a link to Timecube so that everyone can experience cubic salvation. Preferably several.

Seriously, though, I understand something about these topics, and a) I wouldn't be surprised at all if that knifepoint was where the damn value stayed for another decade or so, seeing as Nature (the bitch, not the magazine) seems to quite enjoy placing these geometry-of-space constants so close to the critical values that we can't say a thing for sure. b) is that it's a cute theory and an interesting geometry, but frankly I haven't seen anything so far that convinces me that it's right.

But either way, you're correct - this does not appear to be crackpot stuff (I haven't read the peer-reviewed article, but I'll trust that it's there). You can always tell, because the real loonies always talk about how wrong Einstein was.

Timecube sig:
Ignorance of 4 days is evil, Evil educators teach 1 day. 1 day will destroy humans.

Sorry, -1 points because you aren't allowed to mention Timecube without putting in a link to Timecube so that everyone can experience cubic salvation. Preferably several.

Seriously, though, I understand something about these topics, and a) I wouldn't be surprised at all if that knifepoint was where the damn value stayed for another decade or so, seeing as Nature (the bitch, not the magazine) seems to quite enjoy placing these geometry-of-space constants so close to the critical values that we can't say a thing for sure. b) is that it's a cute theory and an interesting geometry, but frankly I haven't seen anything so far that convinces me that it's right.

But either way, you're correct - this does not appear to be crackpot stuff (I haven't read the peer-reviewed article, but I'll trust that it's there). You can always tell, because the real loonies always talk about how wrong Einstein was.

Timecube sig:
Ignorance of 4 days is evil, Evil educators teach 1 day. 1 day will destroy humans.

Sorry, -1 points because you aren't allowed to mention Timecube without putting in a link to Timecube so that everyone can experience cubic salvation. Preferably several.

Seriously, though, I understand something about these topics, and a) I wouldn't be surprised at all if that knifepoint was where the damn value stayed for another decade or so, seeing as Nature (the bitch, not the magazine) seems to quite enjoy placing these geometry-of-space constants so close to the critical values that we can't say a thing for sure. b) is that it's a cute theory and an interesting geometry, but frankly I haven't seen anything so far that convinces me that it's right.

But either way, you're correct - this does not appear to be crackpot stuff (I haven't read the peer-reviewed article, but I'll trust that it's there). You can always tell, because the real loonies always talk about how wrong Einstein was.

Timecube sig:
Ignorance of 4 days is evil, Evil educators teach 1 day. 1 day will destroy humans.

Sorry, -1 points because you aren't allowed to mention Timecube without putting in a link to Timecube so that everyone can experience cubic salvation. Preferably several.

Seriously, though, I understand something about these topics, and a) I wouldn't be surprised at all if that knifepoint was where the damn value stayed for another decade or so, seeing as Nature (the bitch, not the magazine) seems to quite enjoy placing these geometry-of-space constants so close to the critical values that we can't say a thing for sure. b) is that it's a cute theory and an interesting geometry, but frankly I haven't seen anything so far that convinces me that it's right.

But either way, you're correct - this does not appear to be crackpot stuff (I haven't read the peer-reviewed article, but I'll trust that it's there). You can always tell, because the real loonies always talk about how wrong Einstein was.

Timecube sig:
Ignorance of 4 days is evil, Evil educators teach 1 day. 1 day will destroy humans.

Leland,

Looks to me like you are comparing heavily sourced material, to the delusional ramblings of a sick man.

Good Luck with your PhD!

That's wimpy, when you could do 96 hours in a day.

Lead, Tobacco, and Oil are all natural products, and bad for you.

Meanwhile, a man-made product, DDT is In (and used, of course, to fight nature).

Let's just pave everything and live indoors. That way we can just set the thermostat wherever you like. Global warming, global cooling - irrelevant with enough styrofoam insulation!

If nature is a circle, science is a square. Everyone knows the opposite of "circle" is "square". That's why we live in boxes.

Learn more here!

And if you don't think I am joking, you're batty!

And they laughed at Gene Ray, proponent of the time cube.

Boycott them all, or better yet let's round 'em all up: Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Pagans, Shamans, and Mormons. Let's round 'em ALL up and put 'em in a sandbox unarmed and see who survives. Hell let's go ahead and arm them.

The rest of us with capacity for reason and true human compassion without being spoon fed by religious corporations will be infinitely better off.

OTOH, the famous Time Cube is well and alive on Wikipedia... Granted it is not exactly presented as a mainstream theory :)

The truth is that these kids are just too lazy and undisciplined to do what's best for them (that is, to continue breathing). That's what happens when you don't beat your kids.

Wrong, you are educated singularity stupid and evil, unfit for life in the Universe of Opposites. You can not debate the truth.

This is Gene Ray 2.0

If string theory is a legitimate scientific theory, then so is time cube.

The Time Lords do not exist, except as opposites - with a zero value existence. Add the opposites together and the Time Lords cease to exist.

I think that I just went crosseyed trying to think of cubic minutes..

Do you realize what that can do to your brain?

Surely there is a place for Time Cube on this list?

For math things and my mind. I create a mental ball within my mind, a virtual brain if you will, and let that intuitively come back with my answer.

I like that review... it starts off reasonable, and gets increasingly Time Cube as it goes on.

You seem to be implying a binary opposition exists here, specifically that being "impossible to confirm" and "impossible to refute" are contradictory to "Plenty of contradictory evidence".

That is correct. If evidence exists that contradicts a particular statement, then that statement is refuted. If a statement is refuted, then it cannot at the same time be impossible to refute. Quod erat faciendum.

Your punishment: read Of Grammatology, and learn the error of your ways.

Your link to a long Wikipedia article is no more of an argument than this is a counter-argument. Your punishment: read AboveGod and the Chair of Wisdom, and learn the error of your ways.

Godless "plasma scientists" deny nature's 4-sided harmonious Time Cube!!!

See, I can link to crackpots too!

Thats a crap analogy. Everyone has opinions and papers express those opinions. Very very few people are paedophiles.

Theres no such thing as unbiased reporting because by the nature of the job reporters give a subjective view of what they're reporting on. Therefor all points of view are required to give a full spectrum of opinion for people (if they wished) to evaluate.

Well, Domo-kun is a mostly a cube. What else do we know that is mostly 4 dimensional cube shaped? A timecube!

There's actually a theory that renders your theory irrelevant. Let's say for a moment that CUBIC NATURE IS OMNIFIC, INFINITE, INEFFABLE, AND ON DUTY. Singularity is the death math
of religious/academic Godism.

Seriously, have you read your crackpot? "Why Software Is Bad"? "Simple Proof that Nothing Can Move in Spacetime"? At least Time Cube is funny.

Cubeless stupid! Harmonic simultaneous Time Cubesat is Omnific, Infinite, Ineffable and ON DUTY. Russian Dneper denies reality of Time Cube, meets firey doom at hands of Cubic GOD!

Between the trolls, complete loons, insane geological theories, loons engaging in revisionist history, bad biological science, and racists. Clearly because some parts of the internet are bad, the entire thing is totally worthless. But if you say this sort of thing, you get shouted down by people who've drunk Tim Berners-Lee's kool-aid. Clearly the logical course of action is to spend my time loudly complaining about how awful the Internet is, how anyone posting content to the web is wasting their time, and how only a web-cultist would claim that even though the web is flawed that there is any value to it.

So if corporate America wants to trust a black box, let 'em. There's no convincing them anyway. I think differently. I think that if the debian team proves to be efficient and shows some sort of internal public retribution, that corporations will trust an honest mistake over coverups, exploits and scandals that Microsoft have proven itself.

It is time that we go to corporations and prove to them that university degrees do not prove intelligence in our field, and that a certification is not worth anything more than the paper it is worth.

Lets push the University system down and bring the Open Source system to the top. We are seen as the smartest and best of the best.

Lets train and educate our gamer friends, leet friends, geeksquad friends(mmm), and other lower tech people that will in turn teach the masses, and then corporations that open source contribution and involvement is an effective way to measure ones credibility.

I believe that if we band together, we can educate and push open source forward.

All significant points of view are presented, not just the most popular one. It should not be asserted that the most popular view or some sort of intermediate view among the different views is the correct one. Readers are left to form their own opinions.

Are you too stoopid to know the true nature of reality?

"When I have attempted to defend my point of view, you have refuted with broad assertions that I am obviously wrong. "

I've made arguments, with points to back them up. Did you really expect me to argue the opposite of the conclusions I've come to and the against my own arguments? Insetad of responding with your own arguments and conclusions, you have responded by increasingly trying to focus less on those arguments than on characterizing me and whatever you interpret as my tone or my attitude.

The problem is that anyone can make these sorts of character assertions, all to no purpose. Fine, claim that I have made broad assertions that you are obviously wrong. So what? The http://timecube.com/ guy can do the same. All of it is offtopic.

"For you to scornfully claim that it's obvious that Christian scholars are wrong is... rather uncharitable to say the least."

If I am uncharitable to that view, it is because I think that view is very wrongly given special respect based largely on status and power rather than on soundness. This isn't some view I've pulled out of the blue: it's something I conclude based on conduct and examination of those arguments.

Whether the text says virgin or not isn't some matter of opinion. It doesn't say virgin. For hundreds of years, no one THOUGHT it even implied virgin. For an unknown author of a tiny religious sect who may or may not have even known Hebrew to suddenly act like it both said virgin and was an unknown prophecy is, sorry, a little ridiculous and a terribly methodology for claiming that a prophecy has been fulfilled (particularly when, like the calling of Jesus Emmanuel in the text yet nowhere else, the gospel is the only primary source making the claim in the first place)

"Either you cannot or will not consider opinions other than yours. Your tone and word choice are well described by your word - arrogance. Your attitude is speaking so loudly that I cannot hear your intellect at all. I sincerely doubt that you are interested in hearing mine."

Again, you are alleging closemindedness and arrogance, but such allegations are really little different than slinging insults.

"Is it possible that your point of view is less than perfect?"

Of course. This is just another implied insult on your part instead of an argument.

"What evidence would be sufficient to demonstrate to you that Jesus is the Messiah? Is there any evidence that would be sufficient?"

Certainly. If it could be shown that Jesus: returned all the Jews to Israel. Redeemed Israel politically. Brought about world peace (instead of a sword), and brought all peoples to acknowledge God. That is what "the messiah" is, laid out very clearly (just like the law is repeatedly said to be eternal, not something that gets tossed out at some point in history because Paul has a dream about lobsters and Jesus is disdainful of the law).

All of this stuff about the messiah being born of a virgin, riding on two asses (because the author of the gospel didn't understand Scriptural poetic idiom and thought "an ass, foal of an ass" meant two animals), being the son of god: all of that was made up after the fact and is simply not part of the concept of the messiah as described by the prophets and outlined in greater detail in countless subsidiary traditions and documents.

Again: am I saying that any of this means that Jesus wasn't a great guy, or couldn't have been the son of god sent to save all humanity for its sins? No. The entire Torah tradition could be completely bunk, and Jesus the true hotness. But the idea that Jesus is the Jewish messiah consistent with the Torah simply doesn't hold up under scrutiny. And before you run off calling me arrogant again, yes: that is the argument that I am making.

Apparently, Gene Ray needs to be afraid. Very afraid.

And while you're at it, read this.