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Re:Hardly
Could you comment on THAT ?
http://images.tomshardware.com/2006/08/31/four_cor es_on_the_rampage/xvid.png
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Re:Hardly
Could you comment on THAT ?
http://images.tomshardware.com/2006/08/31/four_cor es_on_the_rampage/xvid.png
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Re:Hardly
Could you comment on THAT ?
http://images.tomshardware.com/2006/08/31/four_cor es_on_the_rampage/xvid.png
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Similar Review on GeForce 7900GS
Tom's Hardware just had a similar review based on the above card. http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/14/the_geforc
e _7900gs_is_nvidias_new_mid-range/ Also, this one is a tab cheaper at around $220. -
Re:Why even bother?
Many of the reviews I've seen show that the AMD systems consume significantly less power at idle than the equivalent C2D system.
Then you obviously haven't read this one.
Summary:
Intel's most power consuming C2D
C2X6800 Max: 217W Min: 160W (Speedstep)
AMD's most power consuming CPU
FX-62 Max: 283W Min: 192W
AMD's least power comsuming offering (with comparable performance)
64 FX-60 Max: 255W Min: 161W (Cool'n'Quiet mode) -
Intel is very open source friendly too
Core2duo processors seem very attractive - nobody can deny that. HERE you can find Tom's Hardware benchmarks of Core2Duo against AMD processors.
However, another interesting thing is that Intel is very open source friendly. Intel's new top of the line graphics adapters (found on some core2duo motherboards) have _FULLY_ open source Linux drivers! That is a _BIG_ thing! You can find more information HERE. Imagine! Now you can have fully open source OS without any binary drivers messing up your system. These on board graphics adapters are also very fast and capable, so it's a big thing to many of us. -
Re:Duo 2 Sexo?
Tom's Hardware has already ran 3cores in an opteron setup.
1 core in one socket, dual core in another. Has some stepping issues that cause some programs to fail but windows loads and identifies the CPUs.
TomsHardware http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/28/are_three_c ores_better_than_two/ -
Re:Moo
Gigabyte has allowed updates from the BIOS itself for at least 5 years... See the screenshot for details
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Re:Enlightenment is this wayHmmm...
Buying pre-built is always costly, which is a lot of the reason why people like me end up going the Windows OS route. You can't by a modern Mac for under $1000
Not true - the Mac Mini starts at $599. Add a cheap keyboard/mouse/monitor and you can get it for well under $1000. It doesn't compare to a tower for the same price, but it is a modern Mac, and it is under $1k.I'd be willing to bet that I could build a quad-core machine out of AMD Opterons that would smoke your Mac.
I'd like to see you try, on the basis that every review shows the Xeons out-performing the Opterons [and I could find more, that's just a quick googling]...
As for the speed difference between OSX and Windows - I think we have different priorities. I don't really care if something takes 3% longer on the Mac version, as long as I'm not plagued by viruses, nastyware, adware, etc. etc. Even the damn virus scanners will take a lot more away from the general performance than the OS difference...If you were used to Windows and not OSX then you'd likely not be making claims like you did.
I've used a lot of computers - I've been using them for over 25 years. I've used mainframes, minis, 8-, 16-, and 32 bit micros (runnin Windows from 3.1 through 95, 98, NT, and XP), Macs and Unix workstations. Until OSX, I thought Macs sucked big-time - the lack of memory protection, and the general weakness of the OS was a huge turn-off. My preference back then was Unix (I started playing with Linux on a college PC when it came on 4 floppies). Now, I far prefer the Mac - it's the best damn unix workstation I've ever owned/used. All the "business" apps are there, the shell is there, the UI is simply gorgeous, and (for the most part) it really does "just work". There's even the occasional game [grin] - I'm currently hooked on civ-4.
As for "making me money", yes it's making me money. I work as a software developer, and a fast machine (and XCode automatically spreads compilation across all 4 cpus) is a big win on big compiles :-) Plus it's about time - I haven't bought a computer in 3 years, and I expect this one to last roughly the same time-span.
Simon. -
a truly silent PC
Here you go, http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/09/strip_out_
t he_fans/ a truly silent PC with additional benefit of cooking french fries while watching a movie. -
Who wants to guess
what the usage graph will look like on actual consumer machines with typical currently available software?
I'm betting that 99% of the time when the user's running some CPU-intensive application it'll look exactly like the image in TFA: One core busy with a single-threaded app, one core slightly occupied with background system tasks, and the other two cores twiddling their thumbs with nothing at all to do.
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Re:They should start with the bunny suit guys
It's not about performance. Read that again. In today's market, it's about the platform and the pricing as much as it is about the product. Core 2 is too expensive ($240 for a 2.13GHz Core 2). Most of the market doesn't care whether or not Intel's $250 CPU beats AMD's $250 CPU (as it turns out, the competition is remarkably close). It's not about Athlon X2 vs Core 2. It's about Sempron vs. Celeron.
It's nowhere near close, first of all. It's just not. Look here and here for proof. (I hate linking THG, but the numbers at Anandtech agree with what they've posted.) And the Core 2 Duo is too expensive at retail, but not for OEMs like Dell or HP. They're the ones sucking up the supply. Considering how aggressively the chips are priced (even the E6300 beats all but the highest-clocked X2s), this is truly dangerous for AMD. You're right to posit that it's the budget market that determines who really "wins," but it's no longer Sempron vs. Celeron, it's Sempron vs. P4, because those prices were slashed to hell. Intel has better performing parts in every price range. That's a very scary thing for AMD to face.
One could say the same thing about Intel. From the release of Athlon 64 to the release of Core 2, nothing that Intel has released for desktop computers has even been close to the AMD equivolent.
But they more than made up for it in the laptop segment--which is where Intel knew to throw its weight, because now it's come full circle. AMD, on the other hand, has made no significant chipset or CPU updates since the X2. The manufacturing capacity is something I did not consider and you're right to call me out on it, but even so, I can't help but wonder what AMD's R&D division has been doing this entire time. It's been eons since the A64 first came out. It's seen plenty of revisions, sure, but when are we going to see a new chip? They need something to even the performance/price ratio.
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SPEED!
Size is good and all but we really need speed. With the popularity of porable apps and U3 technology we're really going to need a push for speed. Recent speed comparison of some flash drives I use portable apps such as portable ethereal, firefox, thunderbird, portaputty and I love them but the larger apps or apps with large data such as thunderbird really lag even on USB 2.0 flash drives. Correct me if I'm wrong but the bottleneck is not the USB bus but the flash.
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Barracuda 7200.10
I assume they're using the Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 drive, which is the first gen of desktop drives with perpendicular recording (AFAIK), and are badass according to TH's tests, with average read rates on par with the 70GB Raptor, second only to the the 150GB Raptor. Also Tiger Direct has a $60 rebate on them through Thursday, which brings the total cost to about $50 less than anything I saw on Froogle and would make the price per GB ~$0.46US -- well below the ~$1.60US/GB of the 150GB Raptor.
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Barracuda 7200.10
I assume they're using the Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 drive, which is the first gen of desktop drives with perpendicular recording (AFAIK), and are badass according to TH's tests, with average read rates on par with the 70GB Raptor, second only to the the 150GB Raptor. Also Tiger Direct has a $60 rebate on them through Thursday, which brings the total cost to about $50 less than anything I saw on Froogle and would make the price per GB ~$0.46US -- well below the ~$1.60US/GB of the 150GB Raptor.
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Sloppy review site
After reading Anandtech and Tom's hardware for years, just looking at the site hurt my eyes.
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Printable view of TFA
If you have the 400 page ad loaded version as much as I do.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/08/18/locking_up_ linux-creating_a_cryptobook/print.html -
Waaay Out of Context
"I believe '2' is a good number. '4' will be an interesting number for the high-end. Will we see eight cores in the client in the next two years? If someone chooses to do that, engineering-wise that is possible. But I doubt this is something the market needs."
I very strongly suspect that he's talking about 8-cores in the next two years.
Most app dev's don't know how to use 2 cores efficiently at the moment, much less 8. And for the next two years, app dev's probably don't know what to do with 8.
And look! Behold! Their 8-core plans are for post-2008!
Folks, this is nonsense. Intel has said, over and over and over again, that we're going to x100's of cores by 2015.
And they have very clear ideas for specific applications: Real-time super-resolution for cameras. Speech and Voice recognition. Recognizing who's sitting in front of the camera, quickly. Virtualization. All kinds of stuff.
There's no end to the amount of useful processing that can occur. -
Re:Power just became more of an issue.
There's always the option of changing 'index.html' to 'print.html' on the URL.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/21/the_graphic s_state_of_the_union/print.html
Removes most of the ads, and puts the article on one page. -
First User Full Privileges No Password?
From May/June of this year
Tom's Harware:
"But Microsoft hasn't taken this principle entirely to heart, either. The first user defined during installation is automatically granted administrative privileges. Worse yet, the reserved account named Administrator is not required to have a password to log into the machine!"
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vis ta/page18.html [tomshardware.com]
Did they fix this?
If someone nitpicks about how Linux's sudo is somehow equivilant, it's not. Stop spreading the FUD. -
Re:No thanks...
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/12/geforce_an
d _radeon_take_on_linux/print.html
Adding "print.html" works for all articles on THG. -
prit version, coralized version
The print version and because that didn't work for me, the same via coral cache
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Re:Intel is doing something right.
OK, if I'm so wrong, tell me why this:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&m odel1=269&chart=65&model2=321
This shows that an Athlon XP 3200+ Barton runs faster than a Pentium D 940 Pressler 3200 for Lame MP3 encoding.
In my original post I said that I was comparing with an application that only used one processor on the T2400.
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This is already pretty well documented.Intel's products have been worthless for almost 2 full years now. Interestingly, they've been hyping this chip and it's arrival for just about as long. It is a very well documented (and propogandized) release of a superior product.
Toms Hardware has a review of the New Intel Chips. I know, the page came out a few days ago, but the information is the same, and much of it has been available for many months.
Toms also has the AMD AM2 Socket and the incremental upgrades on the other side of the house.
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This is already pretty well documented.Intel's products have been worthless for almost 2 full years now. Interestingly, they've been hyping this chip and it's arrival for just about as long. It is a very well documented (and propogandized) release of a superior product.
Toms Hardware has a review of the New Intel Chips. I know, the page came out a few days ago, but the information is the same, and much of it has been available for many months.
Toms also has the AMD AM2 Socket and the incremental upgrades on the other side of the house.
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Re:quiet home computers
I think we'll see within the decade solid state drivers.
How about now? SATA to CF adapter for $40CF memory is now available in 3GB sizs for about $300;
I just bought 8GB for $180 with similar performance to the laptop hard drive (20MB/sec reads 18MB/sec writes). By the end of the year, 8GB will be under $100.These are already large enough to support a credible laptop computer, although you'd need ten or so to provide storage for a typical desktop.
Just put the OS installation on the flash (you don't need 8GB for that, 4GB will do for XP or Ubundu with room to spare, be sure to disable swap and have enough RAM to make up for it). For the moment, put the big drives in a NAS enclosure in a different room with a dedicated 100mbit or 1gbit ethernet connection. A single drive NAS enclosure is about $110, 4 drive RAID-5 enclosure is about $700. Depending on the application, either one is a bargain.
By the way, this isn't theory. What I've described is the HTPC I just finished building. 8GB flash primary drive in an obscenely quiet PC, 4 drive NAS with 2.1TB of data in a closet storing more content than I can enjoy in three months. The NAS and drives were the primary expense of the whole home theater (I already had the projector).
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Too Late
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Re:GAIM
This worm has nothing to do with "videos/pictures stream[ing] through the chat box". The worm spreads by sending a URL to an executable. Victims run the executable (which is cleverly "disguised" by having the extension ".avi.exe") and get infected. Clearly this attack has nothing to do with GAIM or MSN Messenger, and contrary to what the summary says ("distributes itself to all your MSN contacts by sending a video"), the worm does not send any video at all. It displays some image when it first runs, but that's it.
So this has nothing to do with software bloat or WMP vulnerabilities or MSN Messenger being integrated with the OS (which it's not, by the way — you're thinking of Windows Messenger, which is different and will be removed in Vista IIRC) or software being "married to the kernel" (I have no idea what you mean by this). In fact Windows does its best to mitigate this type of attack — when you download an executable from the Web, it gets an Internet zone identifier attached that says the file came from the Internet zone. Running the file shows a warning dialog with the application name and the publisher before it will let the file run. I don't know what else Windows can do here.
This whole thing is just fulfilling the 1337 h4x0r fantasies of some kid who knows a little Visual Basic, and effectively posting his name on lights on Slashdot is completely counterproductive. If he'd done something remotely clever I could understand, but there are millions of these stupid worms floating around everywhere. There really is nothing to see here. -
A disc carousel
A disc carousel?
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/04/21/imation_dis c_stakka/ -
Re:Quality Quantity
Heres some hard data.
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Re:No visit to the poorhouse
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/12/your_diy_g
a ming_rig_for_720/print.html Always add print.html to a Tom's Article, that way you can actually read it. -
Stable Power Supply: 400 Watts Is Plenty?
The table of contents has an entry Stable Power Supply: 400 Watts Is Plenty, but the page says "...which is why we chose a 550-Watt unit." Huh?
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For those of you who will complain
And for those of you who will complain about the article being split into so many pages, here is the print version. Coral Cache Directly No ads and one page. Enjoy.
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print url
for those who dont want to browse through n pages http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/12/your_diy_g
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Re:Article - 3 ways to avoid ads.... :)
The reason these stories on Slashdot are useless is because all of the slashbots here will be screaming "I don't want ads!". Well, tough shit. Advertising is part of our world and culture and they are coming to video games whether you want them to or not.
There are 3 ways to avoid advertising. Here they are:
1) Die. Seriously. Then your problems with advertising will be all over for good. The drawback is that it is permanent [depending on your beliefs in an afterlife.... :) ].
2) Live 'off the grid' on public/private land with NONE of the technological amenities of modern civilization other than (maybe) a P.O. box or other suitable 'mail drop' (but then the ad men will probably get ahold of it and still send you junk mail! :P). I like how the USPS's definiton of '1st Class Mail' only covers bills/invoices/purchase orders/related whatnot, financial statements/legal papers/government correspondence, checks and equivalents, and handwritten personal correspondence. To them, everything else that is not a periodical or parcel of some kind is considered bulk mail and is fair game for recycling/disposal. :)
3) Use the technologies at hand to minimize/eliminate your exposure to advertising. Some examples:
3a) Digital Video Recorders with 'adskip' (if you can still buy 'em or build 'em). If push comes to shove, hang on to your VCRs and use them instead.
3b) DVD Players that ignore Prohibited User Operation(s) (and region codeds as well!). Yay, no more FBI warnings/trailers/long animated menus before the movie! :) (the animated menu on Disney's Lion King DVD is notoriously long! :P) If you live in the USA and are thinking 'FVCK THE DMCA(.pdf)!!!!' there is software out there that will allow you to 'remaster' a commercial DVD to remove 'all' unwanted content. Non-USA world citizens don't have this worry (lucky them!)
3c) Ad blocking hosts file for your webbrowser such as this one. Use a 'surfer friendly' web browser like Off By One that ignores Flash and popup windows because it doesn't understand the SCRIPT and OBJECT HTML tags I am using it now to write this post instead of IE 5 that came with Windows 2000. Slashdot looks like crap in IE 5 so I gave up on it and am now using Off By One to surf Slashdot--much nicer! If you have to/want to use a 3rd party popup blocker, I heartily recommend NoAds
On Windows and tired of email spam? Filter it out with my absolutely free gift back to the Internet community at large who can use it. Since I started using it, my email spam has dropped to essentially zero. Attention Mods. before you mod this post down as spam/karmawhoring, consider 'going after' Roland Piquepaille first who always seems to get a story posted here no matter how trivial it is sometimes...or the multpage 'adfest' stories mentioned here from Tom's Hardware.
P.S. Sorry, I have no solution to public restroom advertising other than to keep your eyes closed while you do your business, use a 100% ad-free bathroom, or risk being arrested for defecating/urinating in public....
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Re:Overkill
Here you go. I stumbled upon this article about a year ago, and your comment reminded me. The article's birthday is tomorrow, actually.
:)
As a passionate coffee drinker, René G. set a difficult goal for himself, one that took him nearly 80 hours to achieve: through laborious and precise work, he was able to convert a coffee maker into a standard PC shell.
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HAHAHaha...
I'm laughing, of course, at this:17 pages is insane (thanks for letting me know how many I avoided). Even with blocking the ads
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You must be new to this Interweb thing if you still think 17 pages is impressive -
Re:Will it work?
Windows doesn't know how to do software RAID either
You mean like that? -
Re:I for one am enjoying it.
For those not up on processor model number trivia, the 805 can be overclocked to almost 4Ghz and beyond, in certain cases.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/10/dual_41_ghz _cores/
As long as you don't mind having a blowtorch under your desk. -
Re:Technical Prowess of Reviewer?
Hyper-Threading is a load of crap. It fooled the computer into believing that the computer has an additional processor. The reason that they removed Hyper-Threading from the dual core chips is that it is redundant and not needed. You are not going to get any greater performance gains from multithreading on a single chip than you are from a dual core chip.
Oh really? A real-life simulation says your wrong. In this video from Toms Hardware, it shows a 3Ghz HT system beating one running at 3.6Ghz with HT disabled. Go ahead and view the video for yourself. I fail to see how Hyper-Threading is a "load of crap".
Note: Requires DivX codec. Also, the e-mail address of user@example.com will gain you access to the download. -
Re:40 pages?
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Default User *Still* Passwordless Administrator
This one says it all:
"The first user defined during installation is automatically granted administrative privileges. Worse yet, the reserved account named Administrator is not required to have a password to log into the machine!"
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vis ta/page18.html [tomshardware.com]
I know I'm going to have plenty of work when the OS finally releases because this one doesn't look any better than the last.
FYI: if it hasn't been clarified yet, the beta release ships with *everything* AND the kitchen sink. So it's reasonable to assume it will come in bigger than XP, but I'm guessing smaller than their beta release by a long shot. -
Here is your fix.
I think this review sucks but for you guys who want to read it..
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vis ta/print.html
Tada!
Its on one page :) and much more readable. -
Very unbiased review...
...it outshine its Linux and Mac OS competitors.
This isn't because of the fact that it steals most of it's features from those competing products? Then again, with beautiful non-buggy windows that look like this, who could argue?...we're still dealing with a relatively early beta version.
Wow, after, what is it now, seven years? It's an EARLY beta version?!?!?! Daniel Schuhmann needs to get his head out in the light more often because something is affecting his brain up in that dark damp place he's got it now.
It's amazing that a "hardware" company like Apple can roll out a new OS nearly every year while it takes a "software" company like Microsoft seven to steal all of Apple's ideas... :P -
Secret TH Printer Friendly Layout
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vi
s ta/print.html
Someone in a previous Tom's Hardware thread pointed out that adding "print.html" to the end of any TH article will magically give you a ONE Page article.
Thank you fief (12961). It looks like you've learned a thing or two since getting that low UID . -
Re:And if Toms Hardware Thinks
Here you go
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Lovely to see drm and the fritz chip in action
Here are one of the ways Microsoft is trying to sell the fritz chip as a good thing.
Funny I thought drm was not required to encrypt a drive? Oh yeah, all the components will have a trust relationship to lock data from the user and to force upgrades as windows will refuse to run if you change more than 2 or 3 things without paying for it again. -
One good thing...
I have to say that this IE7 feaure of previewing tabs (similar to how Expose previews windows) is pretty cool... anyone know of anyone using this in the context of a tabbed program before?
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Re:Too many pages
That's why God invented Print Versions: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vi
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Re:all-on-one-page-with-less-ads link?
nm - found it (there was a comment in the original article about it meta refreshing to an ad and then not wanting to show up again, but my SeaMonkey doesn't seem to be bothered by that). Nothing much worth seeing here though - 35 pages of screenshots, and less than five of text, of which maybe two lines non-obvious.