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As always xenu.net has the dope on the ongoing $scientology vs. the 'net battle

...to link to Scientology.

/we're #2, we try harder

Just think... some bastard spams your blog with links to "hotanalonlinepoker.com", so you pay Google thirty bucks to whack that site down one rank whenever the appropriate search is made.

Okay, so i can also see the scamentologists doing a few thousand of those on their detractors, but... it might still be worth it.

I find it an interesting coincidence the power outage happened so soon after that the Xenu article was featured.

Gee, you just had to mention the X-word! Now this thread won't load for most Scientologists because the keyword filters they were forced to install by their Church will see "Xenu" and block the site. After all the mere sight of the word could cause "pneumonia and death" if you haven't paid the Church of Scientology for the proper preparation.

Wikipedia's Xenu article has an interesting history if you look, as I did the other night when it was featured. Scientologists vandalize it regularly. You're supposed to pay them a half million (or some absurd sum of money) to find out about Xenu. After you find out, you're too embarrassed to admit to anybody that you paid a half million to learn that your problems are caused by bad science fiction, when you could have bought a house in Silicon Valley instead. So they obviously don't want a Wikipedia article giving away their half-million-dollar "trade secret" for free.

One trick I saw was to use HTML entities to spell out insults at the top of the article- like "only an idiot would believe this" or something. In the editor window, the entities weren't rendered and each letter appeared as a hex code.

A more effective attack took a different approach. The vandal in this case changed "Scientologists" to "Muslims", "Scientology" to "Islam", and inserted a boring-sounding sentence at the end of the first paragraph claiming that "Xenu" is another name that Muslims use for "Allah". It completely discouraged you from reading further. If you didn't know better you wouldn't find out how "Allah" distributed the thetans around volcanoes on various planets and blew them up with hydrogen bombs, and how their blown-up spirits cause problems in your personal life today.

This is OT, but what the hell, why not whack a beehive? Additional information on Xenu:
Operation Clambake (Hubbard maintained that humans are descended from clams)
The Xenu leaflet (all about Xenu- this information can save you lots of $$$$$)
The road to Xenu (authored by a woman who got suckered)
The Google cache of Wikipedia's Xenu article is also a must read.

I'm wondering if I'll get a lot of freaks, downmoderations, and hostile AC replies after I post this. After all, that's the kind of thing that Hubbard called "fair game". If it sinks below default visibility I'll repost it again with my karma bonus, so you theta-clear-wannabes out there can save your points for someone else.

I find it an interesting coincidence the power outage happened so soon after that the Xenu article was featured.

Gee, you just had to mention the X-word! Now this thread won't load for most Scientologists because the keyword filters they were forced to install by their Church will see "Xenu" and block the site. After all the mere sight of the word could cause "pneumonia and death" if you haven't paid the Church of Scientology for the proper preparation.

Wikipedia's Xenu article has an interesting history if you look, as I did the other night when it was featured. Scientologists vandalize it regularly. You're supposed to pay them a half million (or some absurd sum of money) to find out about Xenu. After you find out, you're too embarrassed to admit to anybody that you paid a half million to learn that your problems are caused by bad science fiction, when you could have bought a house in Silicon Valley instead. So they obviously don't want a Wikipedia article giving away their half-million-dollar "trade secret" for free.

One trick I saw was to use HTML entities to spell out insults at the top of the article- like "only an idiot would believe this" or something. In the editor window, the entities weren't rendered and each letter appeared as a hex code.

A more effective attack took a different approach. The vandal in this case changed "Scientologists" to "Muslims", "Scientology" to "Islam", and inserted a boring-sounding sentence at the end of the first paragraph claiming that "Xenu" is another name that Muslims use for "Allah". It completely discouraged you from reading further. If you didn't know better you wouldn't find out how "Allah" distributed the thetans around volcanoes on various planets and blew them up with hydrogen bombs, and how their blown-up spirits cause problems in your personal life today.

This is OT, but what the hell, why not whack a beehive? Additional information on Xenu:
Operation Clambake (Hubbard maintained that humans are descended from clams)
The Xenu leaflet (all about Xenu- this information can save you lots of $$$$$)
The road to Xenu (authored by a woman who got suckered)
The Google cache of Wikipedia's Xenu article is also a must read.

I'm wondering if I'll get a lot of freaks, downmoderations, and hostile AC replies after I post this. After all, that's the kind of thing that Hubbard called "fair game". If it sinks below default visibility I'll repost it again with my karma bonus, so you theta-clear-wannabes out there can save your points for someone else.

It was Xenu! Great God of the Scientoligists who caused the power outage. He/she/it was angry you didn't pay all your hard earned cash to learn the inner secrets to find out about he/she/it. Read all about it on Wikipedia. Oh, wait you can't!

I find it an interesting coincidence the power outage happened so soon after that the Xenu article was featured. I may be paranoid, but the Scientologists have taken paranoia to a new dimension. They are not above dirty tricks. Karl "Turd Blossom" Rove could learn a thing or two.

Alex Chiu devlops a ring which grants immortality, homeopathy can preserve the effects of chemicals even when diluted to less than one molecule per world's oceans' worth of water, and scientology can help you get rid of evil body theatens.

Oh, and you've all been educated stupid.

Sheesh, it's one thing to report on out-of-date speculation, and another thing to report on blatent hoaxes. What is this, the Weekly World News?

IIRC, it was Xenu, the guy the scientologists say took a bunch of aliens and crammed them into a VOLCANO where Hawaii is and blew them up, in what really comes off as the sort of wild yarn I wish I could come up with when I'm totally snokkered. If you'd read Copolymer's tale in Pyramids by Terry Pratchett, you had a similar idea. Keep in mind a "religion" is based upon this. Do you suppose they've seized upon this as evidents that L. Ron Hubbard's rantings were true?

You misspelled C-H-U-R-C-H O-F S-C-I-E-N-T-O-L-O-G-Y

He'll keep trying to edit the page and the rest of the Net will point out what a lying sack of shit he is, just as we've been doing with Scientology. woof.

He'll keep trying to edit the page and the rest of the Net will point out what a lying sack of shit he is, just as we've been doing with Scientology. woof.

Ok, since it seems like you must be new to slashdot, I'll give you a couple of pointers:
(Mods, don't think this is troll or flamebait, these are just the general pointers!)

- Spielberg used to be a good Sci-Fi director, until he decided that EVERY story must have a happy and somewhat enigmatic ending.
He's not regarded as a good director by us higher nerds.

- Cruise is a scientologist. Apart from being totaly nuts, and divorced from that fine piece of ass that is Nicole Kidmann, this makes him lame as well. If you don't know what scientology is about, do a search on google for operation clambake, or xenu.
Most of us slashbots are familiar with the premise of scientology and its crazy father L. Ron Hubbard (of the Battlefield Earth "fame") (John Travolta is also a scientologist and to a lesser extent lamer.)

- So these two commercial whores (with tremendous popular appeal) are remaking one of the best Sci-Fi stories, which is very dear to our hearts.
In no way is it acceptable to say that it looks "worth checking out"
And they're setting it in contemporary times, because they're under the impression that today's audience can't relate with "funny speaking islanders" who didn't even have cars, portable machineguns, or jet airplanes to fight these aliens off. (The reasoning, of course, being that today's society is so fucking smart and benevolent that without our technology, no amount of resourcefulnes, or luck could save us. We need an asskicking cutie to save our helpless asses.)

Mr. More did a fine job with an adaptation of War of the Worlds in the League of Extraordinary Gentelmen II graphic novel.

In summary: Cruise = Crazy, Lame; Spielberg = Lame
Cruise + Spielberg = Crazy, and Extra Lame

That THIRD WORLD TERRORIST is a member of the BILDERBERGER group, planning MIND CONTROL by bouncing the HAARP signals off of CHEMTRAILS, Manipulating the FEDERAL RESERVE and denying you STATUS as a LEGAL PERSON (and your BIRTH CERTIFICATE is a receipt for this payment). INCOME TAX is illegal under the CONSTITUTION of the US and the BRITISH NORTH AMERICA ACT, and only the "POWER OF THE COUNTY" can enforce the true constitution. You don't actually need a DRIVERS LICENSE because MAGNA CARTA guarantees the right to use the "public way". The KYOTO PROTOCOL is a branch of the ELDERS OF ZION, and by reducing greenhouse gasses, safeguards the performance of CHEMTRAILS in reflecting HAARP signals so they can continue using MIND CONTROL along with their friends in the PSYCHIATRIC PROFESSION.

I'm sure there's even more crazy conspiracy theories out there...

For someone with a serious ego problem, try Ron.

Some information for you

Now Zapp, you may ask: "What has that to do with anything?"

If you really don't know what staunch dfenders of free speech the Scientolgy[tm] "Church" is you might find some interesting reading at this link.

If you want to dig deeper then Xenu can guide you.

yeah, earthlink and mindspring etc. can keep their thetan powers to themselves. i'll stick with sbc, thanks.

Hey, try heading over to Operation Clambake before making any posts about the "big bad scary church of scientology". Trust me, it's worse than you could possibly imagine...

And good sir, how do you know that hell doesn't exist?

How do you know that Xenu doesn't exist? Or that Isis, Osiris, and Ra don't exist? Or what about Hades or the Elysian Fields?

Do you have any verifiable evidence at all to support your claim for the existence of "Hell"?

I'm kind of glad that this is being done. The only thing I'm worried about is a reputable business being shut down over a black hat spamvertising gampaig... like.. for example... one store paying hacker to spamvertise for a competitor... or a group like Scientology "spamvertising" for xenu.net. (Of course, how do you spamvertise a non-profit website?)

It's good, but there's some potential for abuse.

What Davies says about the message (an alien message designed to last millenia should be 'inside a large number of self-replicating, self-repairing microscopic machines programmed to multiply and adapt to changing conditions', otherwise known as living cells) strongly ressembles the message of the (VERY DANGEROUS) Scientology Church of L. Ron Hubbard.

Is Davies a Scientology fellow?

Anyway, go here for more information about the Scientology Church.

Say anything even remotely negative about scientology and you will be paying legal fees for the rest of your life.

Bring it on.

Isnt this how Xenu, the scientology overlord managed to destroy the souls of several galaxies and implant them in the bodies of those inhabiting the earth?

OOPS, have i broke copyright law? Damn, Tom Cruise et al will be laying the smackdown on me!

For those who are bemused by my apparent rantings...check out. Operation Clambake

One of the most infamous charlatans was Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. Courts of law all over the globe are well aware of this quack and his barratrous miscreants.

The educated world has zero tolerance for proven charlatans.

I would imagine that the percentage of complaints about IP infringement being wrongly complained about are close to 0. If someone spends the time to complain about something, odds are it is someone who is particularly bothered by the material being available, and their complaint is valid.

You seem to have a pretty active imagination, then. Yes, a complaint is a sign that someone is particularly bothered by the material being available; that in no way implies that their complaint is valid. (Consider the attempts to silence critics of Scientology.)

People get bothered about other people's speech very easily, and will often make invalid complaints to silence those they disagree with.

you can walk into any org and easily have access to any belief and idea that a Scientologist might have.

So tell me, is this thing with Xenu, volcanos, space cooties, etc, the real deal? Do you seriously believe that?

People post documents purporting to be original Co$ documents about Xenu, but it's hard to tell if they're real. Are you really saying I could go into a Scn shop and check for myself? That would be great.

Don't you feel a bit silly spending many thousands of dollars for second-rate 60s space pulp fiction?

I don't think we have to search far to find aliens.

I remember the last time there was a big brouhaha over something that Google did, which was when we acquired the Usenet archives from Deja.com

The last brouhaha people had was when Google de-listed xenu.net completeley over a complaint from Scientology.

It was March 2002. Buying out Deja was 2/12/2001. Scientology lead with 2 stories on /. in one day.

Scientology

Hmmm... Scientology should switch. They obviously use a lot of Photoshop, but are having no luck with the results. (Why, they could cut off someone's head next! :^)

Been there, done that (or at least sat on my porch and watched it). Take a look at www.xenu.net for details of when a corporation's copyrighted material, admittedly extremely embarassing and the source of other lawsuits, got passed around wildly on the Net.

That bit of copyright nastiness and the fraudulent claims of the church of $cientology led to the creation of NNTP servers that list the "NNTP-Posting-Host" in order to detect their forged cancellation messages, the worst spam-bombing in history as they tried to flood newsgroups to shut people up, and the destruction of the best anonymous remailer ever (anon.penet.fi) by fraudulent court claims to shut it down and catch one of the posters.

Mind you, the cult was the bad guys in that case because they lied, cheated, and stole to protect their embarassing secrets. (They are *NASTY* about this stuff: they kept stealing the copies available for public viewing in Sweden, and Mary Sue Hubbard went to jail for faking bomb threats from the author of "Scandal of Scientology" for publishing the secrets.). But even in the midst of their raving, the courts tried to be careful to protect the legitimate use of copyright.

Who, incidentally, is also a member of Scientology. Which, as you might know, is not a very nice organisation. If she gets paid more, it's not unthinkable that a significant portion of that will go to Scientology; so I'd say she makes more than enough already :-\

Operation Clambake, a web site telling the truth about the Church of Scientology: http://www.xenu.net

Soudns very reasonable, except, you're forgetting that Martians moved the bulk of their atmoshpere to Earth which they then terraformed into a habitable planet. Of course this was a long long time ago, and the martian overlords have since progressed on leaving us to wonder why we're here.

Come to think of it this sounds an awful lot like Scientology. Oh god! They're right! On second thought I think I might listen to too much Clutch.

Born on the Fourth of July - Tom is the bestest... ???

I think that movie, and to a lesser extent, Rain Man, show that the guy can act. But I won't be seeing this movie, as I refuse to support someone who is descended from aliens.

So, he's taken up $cientology?

A buddy of mines father sells a ceartin good or service, which a space alien cult bought on a regular basis. One day they stopped paying their bills, but DEMANDED that he continue delivering said goods and services. Naturally he's not stupid, so the cult responded by SUING HIM for religious discrimination, they claimed they were being discriminated against because he wouldn't do business with them! They were laughed out of court, eventually.

This "repeat until accepted" method sounds a lot to me like the Dianetics psuedo-science Hubbard invented before founding Scientology. Which makes me scared that it either won't work in the long term and will just damage the person's psyche, or will work and will give Scientologists fuel to claim the legitimacy of their "faith".

See what I mean at Operation Clam Bake

Have you ever tried to get 5 PHD's, much less 20, to agree on anything before? I think you don't understand the scientific process.

That's an example of observational selection, and argument from authority. In other words, 20 Ph.D's may have agreed, but who knows how many Ph.D's in the world would disagree?

Also, we don't know the makeup of the group. With its liberal bias, the group could be composed entirely of Democrats. This would make it easier to come to an agreement on anything.

Simple! Use this price list from a representative 501(c)3 UFO cult!

How do you get to be a 501(c)3 UFO cult? You DDOS the IRS with "individual" subpoenas, and if you've got enough dirt on enough politicians, the IRS caves.

Simple! Use this price list from a representative 501(c)3 UFO cult!

How do you get to be a 501(c)3 UFO cult? You DDOS the IRS with "individual" subpoenas, and if you've got enough dirt on enough politicians, the IRS caves.

I have an idea. Well, I kinda stole it from something I read at Operation Clambake. Many of Scientology's "secret" documents are now available to anyone for free, because they have been subpoenaed during a lawsuit.

So... perhaps one could run a filesharing operation based on the fact that documents presented as evidence in court become a matter of public record? Just get the files you were allegedly sharing to be part of the discovery, and bingo! Anyone in the world can download them!

This of course has the advantage that the courts can't shut it down or even declare it illegal... :)

Google did try to help by listing the URLs of all the banned sites in the linked DMCA complaint... that not enough for you, eh? In any case, xenu.net is back up at number 2 for "Scientology".

You can thank $cientology for that. Google won't let ads for search terms for $cientology point to sites like xenu.net, or whyaretheydead.net, or even the apologeticsindex site for it.

why does everyone hate scientology anyway? and what IS it?

It's a cult the likes of which the world hasn't known since the conception of christianity. A cult powered mainly by lawyers. With frickin' lasers on their heads.

They hate it, because, well... It's stupid, and it's fun to hate them. Does anybody need more reason? I think we should burn their corpses to light our cities.

Operation Clambake

"Since our crawler seeks to collect the digital artifacts of our culture for the benefit of future researchers and generations..."

That is, unless the digital artifacts in question are, like Operation Clambake opposed to rich and powerful sects. In which case, they are blocked by the Wayback machine after the Archive caves in to DMCA notices.