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Reading the replies I see mostly prejudiced personal opinions.

Apple has always made great OSes for their computers. They are more intuitive for beginners, the interface is clean and easy to read. On kde/gnome It can be quite difficult to find applications. With linux in general there's the massive and complex dependency tree to worry about. I wanna install xmms and i gotta install 5 other things as well (ok I'm exagerating for effect.)

People have to realize that Linux isn't quite ready for the average user desktop. It's great for our parents/releatives because when they have problems they'll ask us. But not everyone has that luxury. Mac and windows, for the most part, you install it and it just works. No worries. Also, lets see you do High quality graphics work on Linux. Mac gives you more true colors for the image and prints the way you see it.

And for those of you that are gonna say so-and-so copied so-and-so, lets just set the record straight. Apple BOUGHT their interface from Xerox PARC after Microsoft turned it away. Then when MS saw the success apple was having in the early 90's decided to copy and modify the interface and created the "Start" menu (Finder anyone.) Incidently kde/gnome also designed their launcher menus based on the apple one. Which apple had been prototyping for a while, and many Geeks/nerds knew about it before it was released.

So don't bad mouth a company you know nothing about, especially when most of the technology we have is owed to them.

BTW: i feel I should tell you this was written on a Windows/Xandros Dual boot system. I was beta testing Xandros 3.0 prior to release.

Ah, sorry to break your bubble but MINE is REALLY A LOT BIGGER than yours...all 6 of them..http://www.xerox.com/go/xrx/igen/iGen.jsp?vi ew=Landing&Xcntry=USA&Xlang=en_US

As long as your use of "Xerox" is in fact a reference to the true Xerox®, then I'd say that reference is in fact truthful, and therefore (at least under US law) is not infringing. What else you might also say around that time or that space, is free speech. So if I were to say "Microsoft® sucks" or something like that, there would be a truthful reference to Microsoft® along with a truthful expression of my opinion. Of course, Bill would be royally pissed that these truths might get so close to each other.

Fuji Xerox is a joint venture between Fuji Film and Xerox. Whereas Fujitsu is a computer company, analogous in a number of ways to IBM.

Teresa Lunt is not cute

-dk

What is the evil force behind all wrongdoing in the universe?

It never had a name. Until now. Until we identified it and studied it while making ready to destroy it.

Its name is VladeKua5y !

VladeKua5y (pronounced "Vladequacy") is the root of the problem. VladeKua5y is the root of all problems. VladeKua5y is the enemy. VladeKua5y is what must be destroyed.

Kuro5hin + Vladinator + Adequacy = VladeKua5y !!

Who is the enemy? VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y !

What must be destroyed? VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y !

Who is the enemy of all trollers evarywhere? VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y !

Here is some information on VladeKua5y . Expect more people like Rusty Foster to be added soon.

NAME: Burdge, Jonathan E-MAIL: jlb@io.com, jlbatdarc@w-link.net, elby@adequacy.org, darc@w-link.net ALIASES: lb, jlb, Elby

NAME: Casillas, Luis E-MAIL: casillas@stanford.edu, em@adequacy.org ALIASES: em, Estanislao Martinez, Sylvain Tremblay

NAME: Corrigan, Barry E-MAIL: barry@bjcorrigan.fsnet.co.uk, bc@adequacy.org ALIASES: bc, ktb (Kiss the Blade), Lover's Arrival, Euroderf, Erbert Paget-Paget, Anya

NAME: Dickson, Craig E-MAIL: crd@inversenet.com, mendaxveritas@yahoo.com, mendaxveritas@pacbell.net ALIASES: mv, Mendax Veritas

NAME: Flickinger, Dan E-MAIL: flikx@geekizoid.com, flikee@xmission.com ALIASES: flikx

NAME: Haberberger, George E-MAIL: ghaberbe@frontiernet.net, George.Haberberger@usa.xerox.com ALIASES: GeorgeHa, Hairy_Potter

NAME: Huston, Bill E-MAIL: bozoman@vlad.geekizoid.com, ALIASES: bozoman

NAME: Johnson, Peter E-MAIL: peter.johnson@voicestream.com, shoeboy@adequacy.org ALIASES: Shoeboy, Peter Johnson

NAME: Lockwood, Scott E-MAIL: wsl3@attbi.com, vlad@geekizoid.com ALIASES: Vladinator, Lonesome Cowboy Burt, Quick Star, Pinkerton Floyd, etc.

NAME: Linwood, Rob E-MAIL: rcl@cs.csoft.net, rcl211@is9.nyu.edu ALIASES: AuntFloyd, Con Troll

NAME: Mann, Warren E-MAIL: broken@warmann.com ALIASES: osm, OpenSourceMan

NAME: McPherson, Craig E-MAIL: craig@laceyonline.com ALIASES: craig, naked&petrified guy

NAME: Nelson, Brian E-MAIL: elenchos@adequacy.org ALIASES: Elenchos

NAME: Osborne, Michaell E-MAIL: osborm@yahoo.com, dmg@adequacy.org,

What is the evil force behind all wrongdoing in the universe?

It never had a name. Until now. Until we identified it and studied it while making ready to destroy it.

Its name is VladeKua5y !

VladeKua5y (pronounced "Vladequacy") is the root of the problem. VladeKua5y is the root of all problems. VladeKua5y is the enemy. VladeKua5y is what must be destroyed.

Kuro5hin + Vladinator + Adequacy = VladeKua5y !!

Who is the enemy? VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y !

What must be destroyed? VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y !

Who is the enemy of all trollers evarywhere? VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y ! VladeKua5y !

Here is some information on VladeKua5y . Expect more people like Rusty Foster to be added soon.

NAME: Burdge, Jonathan E-MAIL: jlb@io.com, jlbatdarc@w-link.net, elby@adequacy.org, darc@w-link.net ALIASES: lb, jlb, Elby

NAME: Casillas, Luis E-MAIL: casillas@stanford.edu, em@adequacy.org ALIASES: em, Estanislao Martinez, Sylvain Tremblay

NAME: Corrigan, Barry E-MAIL: barry@bjcorrigan.fsnet.co.uk, bc@adequacy.org ALIASES: bc, ktb (Kiss the Blade), Lover's Arrival, Euroderf, Erbert Paget-Paget, Anya

NAME: Dickson, Craig E-MAIL: crd@inversenet.com, mendaxveritas@yahoo.com, mendaxveritas@pacbell.net ALIASES: mv, Mendax Veritas

NAME: Flickinger, Dan E-MAIL: flikx@geekizoid.com, flikee@xmission.com ALIASES: flikx

NAME: Haberberger, George E-MAIL: ghaberbe@frontiernet.net, George.Haberberger@usa.xerox.com ALIASES: GeorgeHa, Hairy_Potter

NAME: Huston, Bill E-MAIL: bozoman@vlad.geekizoid.com, ALIASES: bozoman

NAME: Johnson, Peter E-MAIL: peter.johnson@voicestream.com, shoeboy@adequacy.org ALIASES: Shoeboy, Peter Johnson

NAME: Lockwood, Scott E-MAIL: wsl3@attbi.com, vlad@geekizoid.com ALIASES: Vladinator, Lonesome Cowboy Burt, Quick Star, Pinkerton Floyd, etc.

NAME: Linwood, Rob E-MAIL: rcl@cs.csoft.net, rcl211@is9.nyu.edu ALIASES: AuntFloyd, Con Troll

NAME: Mann, Warren E-MAIL: broken@warmann.com ALIASES: osm, OpenSourceMan

NAME: McPherson, Craig E-MAIL: craig@laceyonline.com ALIASES: craig, naked&petrified guy

NAME: Nelson, Brian E-MAIL: elenchos@adequacy.org ALIASES: Elenchos

NAME: Osborne, Michaell E-MAIL: osborm@yahoo.com, dmg@adequacy.org,

Here's an idea

• ...like copying Unix

Copying and improving. They are evolving an existing design, a design that hasn't changed in 20 or 30 years. That design hasn't been frozen for so long because it's perfect, but because it's "just good enough" for people to consider and rethink.

• What? Copying Windows? I thought we already were...

Yep. Everyone is copying everyone else. It's the nature of design: for the next generation, always combine the best bits of everything else.

For inforamtion on the DocuTech replacement iGen3.

When you go into, say, a Kinko's, odds are every single machine in that store, right down to the 11-inch laminator in the customer area, is leased, with a maintenance contract (if it's not leased, then it probably was leased for so long that it went off-lease and became owned by the store.) Look on the side or top of the stuff in there and you'll see a label with the lessor info: who to call, what the number is, the equipment serial number, etc.

When equipment breaks a lease saves simple hassle in the business too -- instead of having to trust some employee to monkey around in there (which you may or may not be able to spare man-hours for), you just take it out of service, have another store produce orders if need be, and call the lease company. And trust me, when you're talking about a half-million-dollar copier, you do not want to have to eat major repair costs because your screwdriver slipped and you skewered the main vacuum tube or dented the motherboard on the controller.

Basically you walk over to a Xerox copier with a sheet feeder attached and using a cover sheet created in flowport, scan in your documents into Docushare. They are stored as fairly high quality PDFs. The Docushare software also does an OCR on the files and then makes them text searchable.

Although not perfect, it is by far the best solution I have seen. It sounds like you do not have the funds to implement this at your school (the price of the Xerox copier and dedicated docushare server) but if you only have a limited number of these documents, then you would not need to have the infrastructure and perhaps Xerox would do this for you. Xerox has many offices in major cities.

Basically you walk over to a Xerox copier with a sheet feeder attached and using a cover sheet created in flowport, scan in your documents into Docushare. They are stored as fairly high quality PDFs. The Docushare software also does an OCR on the files and then makes them text searchable.

Although not perfect, it is by far the best solution I have seen. It sounds like you do not have the funds to implement this at your school (the price of the Xerox copier and dedicated docushare server) but if you only have a limited number of these documents, then you would not need to have the infrastructure and perhaps Xerox would do this for you. Xerox has many offices in major cities.

It seems that a lot of really nifty things (the mouse, the desktop, and apparently Graffiti) were developed at Xerox, and never produced. Then someone else says "wow, that's stunning" and makes millions off of it. Its not like Xerox lacks the resources to go after these things, more like the ambition.

Making a successful product is hard. Keep in mind that Apple failed as badly as Xerox itself with their first copycat version (Lisa) of Xerox technology.

As for Graffiti/Unistrokes, that really wasn't patentable because there was too much prior art (it wasn't invented at Xerox either). Xerox's real contribution was the PARCTab, a very Palm-like device that the Pilot is a pretty blatant clone of.

There is nothing that can be done about that legally, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. What you can do is keep the history of products in mind: celebrate the original inventors. Don't misattribute things to Microsoft, Apple, Palm, or whoever, that were invented elsewhere.

You are wrong on several counts.

My understanding of the algorithm is that Xerox devides the Graffiti area into 9 ``blocks.'' The recognition algorithm tracks which block the stylus starts in, the end block, and the blocks through which the stylus travels. The recognition is fast and accurate, because each letter is simply an encoding of (start, end, intermediate blocks).

That recognition algorithm (and numerous variants of it) goes back to the 1960's and has been described in standard textbooks and papers (one example is the Ledeen recognizer, discussed here).

It is also not what Xerox patented. The Xerox patent is not about the recognition algorithm, it is about having the writer indicate when one character ends and another one starts; one instance of that approach is to use a single stroke for each character.

In fact, many recognizers using this old algorithm happened to also be unistroke recognizers--it's an obvious idea--which is probably why the unistroke patent got thrown out, and that's a good thing.

Palm copied PARC's Graffiti alphabet because the algorithm was so elegant.

If only they had, but unfortunately, Palm did not copy PARC's Unistroke alphabet. Unistroke is a much more effective alphabet than Graffiti 1 or Graffiti 2 and not significantly harder to learn.

Keep in mind that Xerox had a Palm-like device several years before Palm, complete with networking. Furthermore, the original Palm technical staff apparently knew the PARCTab work quite well. With their patent, Xerox was effectively trying to protect some of their pioneering work in this area, but they failed. That's not necessarily bad, since bad patents may be overall worse than no patents at all.

But keep the history of this in mind: Palm invented very little of what they are shipping. And, to this day, judging by their nearly non-existent publication record, Palm seems to be doing little or no research. Places like Xerox PARC are in trouble, while Palm has more than half of the handheld market. If companies like Palm keep building businesses on other people's ideas but don't invest in research, who is left to pay for the research?

I prefere DataGlyphs (another neat Xerox Parc project). What's cool is that you can embed them in images by using different thicknesses and colors. They even have a nice online demo to generate and decode your own glyphs. Very neat stuff.

I prefere DataGlyphs (another neat Xerox Parc project). What's cool is that you can embed them in images by using different thicknesses and colors. They even have a nice online demo to generate and decode your own glyphs. Very neat stuff.

Xerox is already way ahead of ya... =)

No, his error was assuming foreign courts would react as the USA courts have, and find "Windows" a generic term. Anyone who's followed the Asterix case would know better. Apparantly those dudes have a trademark on any word that ends in the letter "x". But for some reason they haven't sued Xerox.

The magazine's trick here really isn't that hard... in that for every subscriber they of course have an address, and adresseses can be converted to geographic coordinates using the same technology MapQuest has had for years. It's just a matter of getting a satellite photo that shows that coordinate as the center point, and applying the circling to the image. After that, it's just a typical variable printing job.

Modern printing technologies make it very easy for a 40,000-subscriber magazine to send out a different cover to each and every subscriber. It's just a matter of doing a 40,000 page run of each of the "customized" sets of pages with the image database available, and then the common pages can be wrapped around after printing them the typical way. Here's the homepage for VIPP, Xerox's technology for doign such "variable data" printing jobs on its industrial class printing products.

1973-The laser printer invented at Xerox PARC
This did earn X a few good bux
1973 also saw the invention of Ethernet there and lots of other things of interest.

There is a PARC history timeline at here

Jini is related to Obje not only in semantics but the same dudes (atleast Keith Edwards) worked on Jini. I used Jini since its inception only to find out that:

- like Java, its spec is controlled by Sun which is good 'cause there a single controlling entity and the bad is that no device manufacturer gives a rat's ass about what Sun thinks about device discovery and service negotiation.

- Sun's implementation needs Java2 i.e. 10MB JVM w/ 30-40MB runtime footprint

- Working with non-Java entities requires some sort of proxy and/or surrogate architecture i.e. shoehorn a protocol into it and if the protocol doesn't exist already well, write one and shoehorn it. Well, I don't think so - that's what I wanted to cure in the first place.

On top of that the one and a half other implementations don't interoperate successfully.

From the Obje FAQ:

All Obje devices or services, called components, implement and make use of one or more of the meta-interfaces. Together, the Obje meta-interfaces allow components to extend one another to accept new data transfer protocols, media formats, CODECs, content types, discovery protocols, physical network transports, and user interfaces. An Obje component, or client application written against the framework, automatically acquires the above dimensions of extensibility, allowing it to interoperate with new peers on the network without rewriting and without explicit software updates.

To wit:

data transfer protocols: Are you on TCP/IP, or UDP, or Appletalk, or what? Let me adapt.

media formats: What type of streaming content is that, exactly? Let me adapt.

CODECs: You're using Divx/MPEG-4? I don't have it, send it to me as part of the framework package.

content types: I can't support that MIME type. Teach me, via the framework, how to handle it.

discovery protocols: I didn't come with the latest wireless discovery standard; hello, access-point that's Obje enabled, please teach me how to access you ... in the meantime, I'll talk to you using my own special discovery protocol.

and etc.

All of these things can already be done and are being done and have been done and were done years ago; Obje seems like a unification of all those efforts, moving towards a central platform-independant standard for how devices learn to do new tricks. Much as when you're surfing the net now and your browser auto-learns how to play new types of Media because a website can push you the players, except extended to higher (and lower) order functions as well, because PARC seems to be betting on awesomely small future computers that will have to be able to handle a very wide range of user functions.

because the real link is here. The one supplied in the story 404'd on me.

Thanks, Google!

They should be replaced by something better, such as Xerox' Extended Regular Relation Calculus: Here are some examples.

The nice thing about it is that it's fully declarative and bi-directional, i.e. a:b can be applied substituting a by b or vice versa (if run backwards), whereas the traditional

if (/pattern/) { action; }

Another interesting property is that xfst, one of Xerox' compilers, allows naming and re-use of subexpressions:

define countryCode "++" [0-9]+ ;
define areaCode "(" [0-9]+ ")" ;
define endNumber [0-9]+ ("-" [0-9]+)
define phoneNumber countryCode areaCode endNumber

Maybe anybody wants to volunteed to build something like this into Perl6 instead?

They should be replaced by something better, such as Xerox' Extended Regular Relation Calculus: Here are some examples.

The nice thing about it is that it's fully declarative and bi-directional, i.e. a:b can be applied substituting a by b or vice versa (if run backwards), whereas the traditional

if (/pattern/) { action; }

Another interesting property is that xfst, one of Xerox' compilers, allows naming and re-use of subexpressions:

define countryCode "++" [0-9]+ ;
define areaCode "(" [0-9]+ ")" ;
define endNumber [0-9]+ ("-" [0-9]+)
define phoneNumber countryCode areaCode endNumber

Maybe anybody wants to volunteed to build something like this into Perl6 instead?

Much less pleasant than a copy-block, because there are no obvious signs of it going on.

Xerox, that's who. They just don't bother to tell anyone that they do.

Yeah, poor Xerox! They were really on their way to shipping the "computer for the rest of us" when those guys from Apple busted into the ivory tower at the Palo Alto campus and convinced the researchers that they'd be much happier publishing papers and pursuing cutting edge technology free from market concerns than they would trying to deliver next big thing.

If only they had stuck to their gut instinct for consumer products.

Probably not, but maybe Xerox Palo Alto Research Center could sue this "Xerox Park" you mentioned...

Other companies do research too.

Don't know about viruses, but the first computer worms (as in programs that dynamically spread themselves across networks) were created at Xerox PARC in 1978. See here (scroll down to "1978") or here for details.

They're the ones who said my Xerox 6060 does acceptable coated and uncoated Pantones, for the one with the gamut of our toner.

Well, I work for a local company specializing in duplications and digital output, and I work with this Bad Boy every day. It's got really nice looking output. It will run just about any stock you put through it, and has a nice RIP interface. Also includes many features that require upgrades on other devices.

Its only weakness that comes to mind is the solid and continuous tone color distribution on non-glossy cardstock. The cardstock absorbs the toner/color goop unevenly causing blotches, making difficult to do large areas of dark, even tones. It's a master at color photos, line art, text, et cetera; as long as the paper stock is suitable.

We also use the Tektronix Phaser 780 and it's really slow. It's decent, but slow. I don't send anything to it unless the Doc12 is in use for a long time. I'm not sure if that's still sold, but I believe it would now be marketed under the Xerox name if so, as they've acquired the laser printer portion of Tektronix.

How much do you want to spend?

Xerox has a suite of printers that range in price and keep getting very good ratings. They range from small office printers, copier/printers, to full digital production printers.

The Phaser 6250 prints 26ppm (bw or color) and has a resolution of 2400dpi.

How much do you want to spend?

Xerox has a suite of printers that range in price and keep getting very good ratings. They range from small office printers, copier/printers, to full digital production printers.

The Phaser 6250 prints 26ppm (bw or color) and has a resolution of 2400dpi.

Link

We don't have to go to Kinko's anymore, since we bought this. Fine piece of equipment. FYI, we replaced one of those 'Xerox/Tektronix' machines with it.

In any case, I would strongly recomend against a color laser printer for proofs: they just don't have the resolution that a high-end inkjet printer gives you on good paper (not costco $.50/ream shit). My recomendation would be either a tabloid printer (if you need the size), or a photo printer of some sort. My epson bias is based on some very very poor experiances with HP, whereas Epson's printershave been rock solid for me. Xerox has some nice looking equipment too, though I have never used it.

AFAIK, the prototypical GUI windowing system was the Xerox Star office automation system, ca 1981. As I recall, it's said that Jobs and Woz saw a demo at Xerox PARC, cost cut the design from a $25K office system to a $5K personal system, and begat the Macintosh of 1984.

Xerox DocuShare software, which sounds very similar to WinFS, uses the MSDE engine for its file storage. Xerox analysts have stated a limit of approximately 400,000 object.

This may be sufficient for Docushare in which you selectively add documents into the system (don't want Docushare to be filled with Temporary Internet Files, System Files, etc.), but I have Win2000 Servers with 700,000+ files.

For Home versions of Windows, WinFS probably will use MSDE. For Server versions, it will have to be able to handle an enormous/unlimited amount of files - aka SQL Server.

Xerox's (I am not affiliated) Palo Alto Research Center (PARC) is known "As the Birthplace of technologies such as laser printing, Ethernet, the graphical user interface..."
You can read more about Xerox in their Fact Book

According to this ancient Seybold report, Dataglyphs can achieve densities of a kilobyte per square inch.

DataGlyphs were featured in this /. article about chess playing scanners.

I generally tend to stay away from multi-function machines, if it runs out of toner (needs maintenance, whatever) not only have you lost your printer, but your copier, fax and so on.

A few refurbished HP 4000-series with jet direct cards can serve well as network printers.
If you need the multi-copy collating features of the Panasonic you showed, consider sending the job to Kinkos or the like, you just need a day or two notice, and it often turns out to be cheaper (cost of ownership) unless you want to print several copies of your SOP's each day in house.

Eh, if you've got the scratch, the Panasonic looks spiffy. Of course you could also look here, here or here.

Heck, just go for broke.

• Spy museum in Washington DC
• North of DC, The NSA crypto museum
• The manly Rocketdyne F1 Saturn V Booster
• More thrust at the Alabama Space and Rocket Center
• Spam king Alan Ralsky's house
• A Lake Washington cruise past Bill's humble abode
• While in Seattle, the Museum of Flight
• North of Seattle is the largest building under 1 continuous roof at Boeing
• That Holy of Holies: Xerox PARC
• Another park, but of the vertical daqueri variety the Ouray Ice Park

My school got a pair of Phaser 840s for free under some stress-test program for the main lab. All we had to do was provide the paper, and call the service guys when it broke (which it did only once in my four years there).

Seeing that this model has been discontinued, you may want to check out the $300 savings on the Phaser 8200.

My school got a pair of Phaser 840s for free under some stress-test program for the main lab. All we had to do was provide the paper, and call the service guys when it broke (which it did only once in my four years there).

Seeing that this model has been discontinued, you may want to check out the $300 savings on the Phaser 8200.

We bought a used Tektronix Phaser printer several years ago for the office. We've never looked back. Maintenance is virtually zero. Adding more wax is trivial, possibly easier/cleaner than toner. Black wax is free with our model (ie, ultra cheap per-page costs for B&W documents), and you pay for color wax. Output quality is fantasic whether it's B&W text, solid color regions, or near-photo quality. You could certainly burn a lot of wax if you printed color photos or solid pages all the time, but your B&W docs will be cheap.

As far as connectivity and compatibility...

Windows: Great. Drivers are easy found and work great.

Linux: The printer sits on our LAN with its own IP address, etc. so when I print from my Linux desktop I simply have a script that fires the [text/PDF]->Postscript straight into the printer's listening port. And I'm sure there's a better way to print to this printer from Linux (with Samba) that allows for proper queuing, etc.

First cavaet: The printer has a warmup sequence that keeps itself clean and ensures liquid wax is ready when needed. The good news is you never really have to think about turning it on or off or whatever; it just wakes up and warms itself up. (In fact, don't turn it off or it goes through an extended power-up cycle that burns additional wax.) The downside here is that it does burn a small amount of color wax each warmup and eventually I guess you'd run out of the color wax even if you weren't doing color printing. In real usage, this hasn't been an issue for our office, but I thought I'd mention it.

Second cavaet: This is a fairly big, heavy, expensive printer. It performs like a professional printer, not a light-duty home inkjet. So you do get what you pay for here, in my opinion.

Ours is an 800-series Phaser, but here are some current models from Xerox. And check into the free black wax issue -- I'm not sure if it's still the standard policy.

Well, if he were really looking for a "hardcore printer", as you put it, he would've checked out Tektronix. We have one at the office (model 850) and it's been printing volumes for a while. Very reliable, nice quality, works without a hinch with Linux, PostScript and all. Even supplies seem to be reasonably priced (considering how long they last).

And the coolest thing about it is that it uses ink sticks! You just feed them into the printer, so there is no catrige to replace, no scam with expiring catriges, no ink wasted. As it uses up a certain color, you add more sticks of that color. That's all.

If they ever become available in my price range, I want one at home!

I was once told by the design dept. where I work that they would never let me take the printers they were using.

Then I gave them one of these.

They couldn't get rid of the other printers fast enough. 20 PPM full photographic color, single-pass laser printing. The damn thing basically has a first generation Power Macintosh G4 under the hood for the RIP processor (PowerPC 7400 / 500Mhz, 20GB hard disk, 512 MB RAM).

It is the most impressive printer I have seen in a long time. Be warned: it's damn expensive, but it has already paid for itself many times in the last six months.

Oh, and it has your built-in Ethernet, and responds to AppleTalk, LPR, and Windows printing.

While the Xerox Phaser series is great, if you want really high volume, you need Xerox DocuColor iGen3 for 6,000 impressions per hour, auto duplex. According to BusinessWire, the DocuColor iGen3 lauched starting at a list price of $510,000, but I don't know if that's the current price.