Slashdot Mirror

Will it show planet X?

http://www.zetatalk.com/

Anytime I hear anything about Zeta, that bitch Nancy Lieder enters my brain. Can we change the name?
http://www.zetatalk.com/

So we'll probably burn coal to make Hydrogen that we can than use to power our cars.

Actually reforming natural gas makes a better source of hydrogen than coal. The best way to produce hydrogen though may be using algae to produce it.

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta359.htm

Energy effeciency is a far better, cheaper, and more effective route than building nuke plants.

Despite what Cheney says efficiency is all three of these, better, cheaper, and more effective than bulding not just nuclear power plants but any power plant. I want to build a home Off the Grid and build a hybrid energy system of solar PVs and wind gennies, generators. First step though is building it as energy efficient as possible. Home Power is a good magazine with articles showing just how this can be done. Solar Today also has good articles on designing buildings and energy systems.

Would be a combination of renewables, and algae biomass driven "Air Blown Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle" power plants.

Better probably is using algae to produce hydrogen.

ROFL but you left out Zachariah Sitchin and the 12th planet which is due back here
in these parts of the solar system real soon now ( http://www.zetatalk.com/ )

Other than that you can join an existing reality here or create your own. I suppose
each has to make that choice on their own.

Take hydrogen. The day someone figures out how to easily produce hydrogen the days of energy monopolies are over - anyone with access to water (or whatever the raw material turns out to be) can do it.

That's not going to happen. The most plentiful source of hydrogen on the planet is water. No one is going to be able to figure out a system that uses less engerdy to split the molecules than you get in return by burning the hydrogen or using it in fuel cells.

True, current technology widely available isn't able to generate more electricity from hydrogen than the energy required to generate the hydrogen from water, however some places can produce hydrogen relatively cheaply. Iceland being one such place. With the volcano there they are able to use geothermal energy to hydrolyze water. In the US, maybe in other countries as well, there's research going on to use algae to produce hydrogen or other fuels such as biodiesel. University of New Hampshire has the UNH Biodiesel Group working on Widescale Biodiesel Production from Algae.

There's better ways to store hydrogen than compressing it like you would propane or CO2.

http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/News/2005/July/1 2070501.asp

I think you'd like that short article. And maybe an article saying "screw using fossil fuels for everyfreakingthing"... at least that's my motto.

http://www.zetatalk.com/energy/tengy14r.htm

The people at zetatalk.com thing planet x is still coming, so the nemisis theory must be true.

...or maybe it will be new proof for her cause. She's the nutty woman running around telling everyone "It's comin' right for us!!!" and showing pictures of light phenomenon as her proof that Planet X is bound for earth. It will bring a pole shift and other certain destruction. By the way, it was supposed to have happened in May of 2003 but she is still trying to convince us it's STILL out there and visible to the naked eye, STILL... For a good laugh, check out http://zetatalk.com/

Specifically these groups... http://www.zetatalk.com/ http://www.samsara2003.com/New/new-main.htm

Planet X"? Woo Woo!

My friend, I think you need to familiarize yourself with this highly credible source and learn the truth about NASA and the ruling elite! ;)

Well lets see. We're talking about the time it takes for "the planet to spin", which we currently clock as about 1 day for the same equatorial point to make one complete rotation about the axis of the earth. Due to a change in the earth's angular velocity, it now takes 3x10e-6 seconds less time to make one rotation. The best explanation I have seen for this is that a piece of the earth's crust has broken away and slipped more towards the center of the earth; like the ice skater pulling in her arms, the rotational speed increases.

Lucky for us, the US Navy is already on the job tracking the tilt of the earth & speeds of rotation. What's also interesting is that the rotational speed is not constant, and has been slowing for almost a century...

You beat me to posting this, but it's obviously Planet X! The Sun's long lost brother is coming back to kill us, everyone knew we were a binary star right? Some people also call Planet X by the name "Nibiru"

From Wikipedia:

Nibiru has an orbit around the sun of 3,600 Earth years. It is suggested that current astronomy points to the possibility that Nibiru is a brown dwarf or dark star rather than a planet. This has the implication that our solar system, like the majority in the known universe, is a binary star system; in other words, Earth has two suns with Nibiru being the second and less bright.

According to Sitchin, Nibiru/Marduk's inhabitants called Anunnaki (Ningischzida) survived and afterward came to Earth. Sitchin says some sources speak about the same planet, possibly being a brown dwarf star and still orbiting the Sun with a perihelion passage some 3,600 years ago and assumed orbital period of about 3,600 to 3,760 years or 3,741 years. Sitchin attributes these figures to astronomers of the Maya civilization, but the supposed sources are unfamiliar to Mayanists.

In a recently published book, titled 2012: Appointment With Marduk, Turkish writer/researcher Burak Eldem presents a new theory, suggesting a 3,661 years orbital period for the planet, and he claims a "return date" in the year 2012. According to Eldem's theory, 3,661 is one-seventh of 25,627, which is the total time span of "5 World Ages" according to Mayan Long Count Calendar system. The last orbital passage of Marduk, he adds, was in 1649 BC and caused great catastrophes on earth, including the Thera Eruption.

So there you have it. Planet X is coming, the internet said so. We are all going to die. Look at the bright side though, at least we won't have to watch Episode 3 or code for Longhorn.

Ok.. Sorry to do it, BUT... "Well, can you at least make it taste like chicken? Otherwise, I'm gonna shrivel up like a super model"

More info on "Moon Bounce"

http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo14e.htm
http://www.af9y.com/

The bee is such an insect. But there might be things like ants starting to attack beehives as an food source. Extreme severe colds could suddenly kill a lot of bees which means that the next season might suffer diminished crop yield. This in turn mean less food supply and thus even greater competition by insects and us to it. Imagine a small grain yield, attacked by grasshoppers. Do you think we can really win that one.

This doesn't include the secondary affects by people. I mean once that crap hits the fan society collapse. An easy way to notice that is simply to notice how people change in a large power blackout. If you can't get diesel or poison to fight the insects, the yields go down further. If people want something bad enough they'll take it, once city dwellers goes to occupy farmland we have real big problems. The infrastructure is simply not there to support it, also those people don't have the experience to produce food in large enough quantities let alone in the "new" environment.

Look at what is happening in Zimbabwe due to Robert Mugabe's farm resettlements. Basically people without skills are given farmland, they simply cannot produce food on a large scale. As soon as that happens, you end up with people dieing from hunger. Or basically you diminish the population's immunity to diseases, then suddenly plagues start to spread much easier. Imagine a new out break of the Bird Flu with not enough resources to "manage" it and a population more susceptible to disease. There is one out now as I am writing this.

These are all things that no "modern human" has experienced before, maybe that is what happened to the people from Atlantis or the Mayans. Are we prepared, do we even have enough time still left to prepare ?

Once the GPS system fails it will have repercussions on everything that depends on it. Hmmm, NTP for one. Some utility companies even use it to monitor electric load on the powergrid, the mass movement of charge, etc. Most complex control systems are useless without accurate inputs. So how big was the "margin-of-error" people designed in that lowest-bidder control systems for that Nuclear Power Plants ? If you look at what happened at Chernobyl with un-self-sustained Nuclear Powerplants you have to start worrying.

If that is not enough to worry about, what will the effects be on the worlds international food supply ? I think we have all started to notice the "Weird" weather. Zetatalk (of Planet X fame) has nice pictures correlating the changes in the magnetic field with changes in temperature. I mean evolution happens over millennia can a significant part of the Earth's food supply handle a severe step-function input, and what will the transient response be like ?

Also have a look at these:
http://www-ssg.sr.unh.edu/406/Review/rev6.html
http://ds9.ssl.berkeley.edu/LWS_GEMS/movies/6magne t.mov
http://ds9.ssl.berkeley.edu/LWS_GEMS/movies/6sec6. mov

Once the GPS system fails it will have repercussions on everything that depends on it. Hmmm, NTP for one. Some utility companies even use it to monitor electric load on the powergrid, the mass movement of charge, etc. Most complex control systems are useless without accurate inputs. So how big was the "margin-of-error" people designed in that lowest-bidder control systems for that Nuclear Power Plants ? If you look at what happened at Chernobyl with un-self-sustained Nuclear Powerplants you have to start worrying.

If that is not enough to worry about, what will the effects be on the worlds international food supply ? I think we have all started to notice the "Weird" weather. Zetatalk (of Planet X fame) has nice pictures correlating the changes in the magnetic field with changes in temperature. I mean evolution happens over millennia can a significant part of the Earth's food supply handle a severe step-function input, and what will the transient response be like ?

Also have a look at these:
http://www-ssg.sr.unh.edu/406/Review/rev6.html
http://ds9.ssl.berkeley.edu/LWS_GEMS/movies/6magne t.mov
http://ds9.ssl.berkeley.edu/LWS_GEMS/movies/6sec6. mov

Check out Pole Shift.

"I have been wondering how difficult it will be to get by without all the cheap plastics that we have today."

Hemp can be used for plastic. In fact hemp can be used for pretty much everything oil can be, including a cleaner burning, renewable fuel source. It's also great for paper, fabrics, and thousands of other uses. Popular Mechanics estimated 25,000 product uses for it back in 1938.

Banning hemp because of marijuana is as stupid as banning barley and oats during prohibition would've been. It's precisely because hemp is so useful (and threatens the profits of powerful people.. like oil and timber barons) that it was unfairly demonized and outlawed (with precisely zero medical or scientific basis) in the 30's, right after a means to mass-process it was developed. The resource barons killed the hemp industry in its infancy. Thankfully, it appears to coming back in some places, although certain powerful people whose family is in bed with oil interests don't want it to...

No, don't look directly at the sun... that is what they don't want you to see!!!

Oh whoops I was wearing my hat of insanity... sorry!

Nancy called, and she wants you to pick up some milk and bread on the way home.

Nancy Lieder's world view can be found here.

Under normal space conditions, yes. But what if there is a solar flare? There was one between Apollo 16 and 17 which might have killed any moon-bound astronauts who happened to be up at the time. A trip to the moon is just a few days, Mars is a lot longer. That scared NASA, and was one of the reasons they terminated the landings.

>The rest of your objections to the use of ISS as the core of the hypothetical Mars vessel are quite valid.

Except the bit about the amount of fuel needed to shift from 52 degree orbit to equitorial orbit. I forgot to cancel out the north-south velocity, so the fromula should be sin(52)+(1-cos(52)) = 1.17. Which means it would take 117% of the original launch cost to reposition the station. Eek!

Check out ZetaTalk for the latest news of our impending doom.

Uhm, I visited the site, and he hadn't actually made in predictions, it said.... Just vague hints, and then yep, retrofitting makes it all seem so great. We've seen it all before.

Just piss in you new powerbook

How they power their clocks in INDIA

Perhaps the reason geeks seek to learn lost arts is because they are aware of the coming Pole Shift. Is it May yet?

Perhaps the reason geeks seek to learn lost arts is because they are aware of the coming Pole Shift. Is it May yet?

perhaps explosives could blast it to smithereens, all small enough to burn up in the atmosphere?

IANA physicist, but it seems to me that the parent contribution here, like many contributions in this thread, seriously underestimates the magnitude of the forces we are talking about.

Would the fragments of a demolished asteroid burning up in the atmosphere be significantly less disruptive than having the intact asteroid smash into the Earth? What were the global effects of the dinosaur killer?

It threw up huge amounts of dust? If fragments of the asteroid "burn up in the Earth's atmosphere" will that produce a worse dust problem or a better dust problem than if one big asteroid strikes the surface?

Heat radiation ignited continent wide firestorms? Would a rain of billions of tons of meteors burning up in the atmosphere ignite a firestorm? The Tunguska object ( if it existed ) was something like 50 to 80 meters in diameter. If I have done my math right, it would have massed something like half a million to a couple of million tons. The dinosaur killer was supposed to be something like 10 to 20 km in diameter, I believe. That would be 10 to 100 trillion tons.

Kinetic energy is, IIRC, one half mass x velocity squared. Earth's escape velocity is 11 kilometres per second. Suppose that was Tunguska's initial velocity? IANA Physicist, but wouldn't a one kilogram meteor, at 11,000 meters per second, surrender 60,500,000,000,000 Joules? 1.5*10^12 calories? It takes something like 660,000,000 calories to boil a cubic metre of water. And so your one kilogram meteor could boil 23,000 cubic metres of water. If I have done my arithmetic right, Tunguska could have boiled something like several tens of thousands of cubic metres of water. And, the dinosaur killer could have boiled at least 10^17 cubic metres of water. The Earth's atmosphere currently contains 1,290 cubic kilometres of water . A dinosaur killer, that burned up, and surrendered all its energy in the atmosphere, would release enough heat to raise the amount of water vapour in the atmosphere one thousand fold.

Maybe the Earth would be better off if the next dinosaur killer stayed in one piece, and spent some of its energy busting rock?

Don't we already have one running?

The above guy obviously didn't read the links.

You don't have to freak out, dude. It just means we're probably not alone.

more Sitchin with videos

more stuff, too

the Dogon Tribe

More on the Dogon

If you like kooks and freaks on parade, then you really need to see this bunch. Divorced grandmothers from Wisconsin have no business being the avatar of the aliens. Believe me on this.

ZetaTalk as in ?

Entertaining, but still crackpottery.

Crackpot, yes, but where do they get those ideas... ZetaTalk.

http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p00.htm

When there's Planet X coming next year.

So, if we convince everyone in the world to have some sort of dissenting information on it, they'll have to block everything, which will soon become unworkable.

Now, onto some other matters... Iraq, a belligerent dictatorship with no regard for human rights, may have nuclear weapons and big George is threatening to knock his block off. China, on the other hand, is a belligerent dictatorship with no regard for human rights that definately has nuclear weapons. Why ain't big George waving his stick at them too?

Think it's just a coincidence that all the MONEY is disappearing? I spoke with a Ph.D who told me he had firsthand knowledge of this event.

Forget coding, start thinking about survival. You will need to be above 2,100 feet and underground. 90% fatality is predicted.

This is not a joke, you fucks, I am 100% serious. Get off the computers and look around you-- winds are picking up across the globe-- in the months ahead we will experience a societal meltdown as the planetary body causing the shift becomes visible to amateur scopes.

Get ready, stary calm, and remember, reincarnation is your best bet. Life doesn't just stop after you pass on.

Stay cool, & of COURSE verify all this & think for yourself.

ver.

According to Nancy Cummings, the official Emissary of the Zeta Reticulans... we are due for the pole shift. You can read all about it on Zetatalk.com

I don't believe in it all that much, but the weather and our government has been acting pretty strange recently, hasn't it?

According to Nancy Cummings, the official Emissary of the Zeta Reticulans... we are due for the pole shift. You can read all about it on Zetatalk.com

I don't believe in it all that much, but the weather and our government has been acting pretty strange recently, hasn't it?

According to Nancy Cummings, the official Emissary of the Zeta Reticulans... we are due for the pole shift. You can read all about it on Zetatalk.com

I don't believe in it all that much, but the weather and our government has been acting pretty strange recently, hasn't it?

http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo19n.htm

looks like people arent sure.

Thanks to the work done by Alternative 3, certain "desireables" will be safe above the Earth in the International Space station. The rest of us will probably die.

good riddance

Zetatalk is a good starting point for information on that theory.

Well, at least the page doesn't have animations and brown text on red background graphics...

Let's hope that website isn't right.

At this URL the article mentions that Pioneer 10 will reach the stars of the constellation Taurus in about three million years.


At this URL is presented a star chart showing what is supposed to be the course of an unknown tenth planet in the solar system, which according to this page will pass by the earth in 2003.


What is interesting is that the current location of this "Planet X" is given to be just above Orion, in the leftmost portion of Taurus. Does anybody have more detailed information on exactly where in Taurus Pioneer 10 is, so this correlation could be checked closer?

Marv