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Big Berlin Blinkenlichten

karm13 writes "The Chaos Computer Club has made a huge display using the 8 top floors of a house in Berlin with 18 windows each as a present to themselves and Berlin for their 20th birthday. You can submit animations on the Blinkenlights project page, and even play pong with a mobile phone!"

143 comments

  1. Way cool... by NightWhistler · · Score: 1, Funny

    And the article says you can display custom messages on the building... Cool way to propose to your girlfriend / boyfriend... ;-)

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  2. That�s a damn large CRT! by uncl_bob · · Score: 4, Funny

    Everyone closer than 2 kilometers from the display will get cancer right away. Cheezes.

    1. Re:That�s a damn large CRT! by faber · · Score: 1

      No Cancer! They have regular light bulbs switching on and off in each window of the empty building. So all the windows are the matrix.

    2. Re:That�s a damn large CRT! by hoggoth · · Score: 1

      Gee, you think so?

      ("Captain, my readings indicate this form of life does not understand sarcasm or humor")

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    3. Re:That�s a damn large CRT! by faber · · Score: 1

      Yes, I'm positive. It's on my way to work.

    4. Re:That�s a damn large CRT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you do for a living? Politics? Just a guess...

    5. Re:That�s a damn large CRT! by hoggoth · · Score: 1
      HAHAHAHA! OMG! ROTFL!
      Faber, you slay me with your subtle wit. The subtlest wit I have ever seen. So subtle in fact, that I am having a hard time finding it...

      The conversation thus far:
      > [uncl_bob] Everyone closer than 2 kilometers from the display will get cancer right away. Cheezes.
      > [faber] No Cancer! They have regular light bulbs switching on and off in each window of the empty building. So all the windows are the matrix
      > [me,hoggoth] Gee, you think so? ("Captain, my readings indicate this form of life does not understand sarcasm or humor")
      > [faber] Yes, I'm positive. It's on my way to work.

      I am predicting that Faber will reply to this with a devastatingly clever retort such as, "No really I am serious. It's just normal light bulbs, not a 14 story CRT."

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  3. Already slashdotted... by _14k4 · · Score: 3, Informative

    May want to check out Google's cache of the page. :)

    1. Re:Already slashdotted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod this karma whore down! The page is and was not slashdotted.

  4. Hmm... by svara · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's great for displaying ASCII-porn! I wonder how long it would take until the german government passes a law that forbids "Blinkenlights before 10PM or after 6 AM"...

    But anyway, that's not news at all, it's been around for at least three weeks...

  5. Cool, but ...been there, done that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    12 years ago in Sausalito...used 36 homes on the hillside. Not nearly as high-tech, however.

    Nice to see the spirit lives on.

    1. Re:Cool, but ...been there, done that by marcop · · Score: 2

      The janitors at Ithaca college (New York State) use twin, 11 story (I think) dormitories to display the last two date digits during new year's. For a week before the new year they display the old year, then quickly display the new date on new year's. I'm don't think that it is computer controlled. They may have people actually flipping switches, or maybe control them all from a breaker box. Not sure.

  6. Hack of the year winner? by Thnurg · · Score: 2, Funny

    So IP over Avian Carriers now has competition for hack of the year. Nice one guys.

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    1. Re:Hack of the year winner? by stud9920 · · Score: 1
      IP over Avian carriers was first proposed 11 years ago.
      an RFC is not a hack, it's a proposition. If I were to build a break even nuclear fusion plant in my kitchen, it would be the hack of the year, although the principles are 40 years old
    2. Re:Hack of the year winner? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fair enough, however I thought it was tested that year.

  7. Blinkenpaint by YKnot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Be sure to check out Blinkenpaint. While other projects like this have turned houses into displays before, this one is much more interactive. You can create animations of your own and they will be added to the rotation, if the ccc-folks like them. Or you can have them added to a "loveletter" database from which you can invoke the animation by a telephone call.

  8. This is in the very heart of Berlin, ubercool! by bkw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I drive by this thing every day and it is just too cool to see those geeks showing off their skills in the very heart of Berlin. Alexanderplatz is a very busy public place in Berlin, everybody knows the Blinkenlights.

    You just gotta love the CCC.

  9. Blinkenlights by DeadSea · · Score: 2, Funny
    This is a sign I have had in my computer room for some time now. It's a laminated xerox and I'm not sure where it came from, but I think it's pretty funny. Some people actually ask what language it is in. Have fun :-)

    Achtung!

    ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS

    Das computenmachine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Is easy schnappen der springwerk, blownfusen, und poppenoorken mit spittzensparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken by das dummkopfen.

    Das rubbernecken signtseeren keepen hands in das pockets--relaxen und watch das blinkenlights.

    1. Re:Blinkenlights by not-quite-rite · · Score: 1

      This is actually from an O'Reilly book, "Programming Embedded Systems in C and C++" by Michael Barr.

      Just so you know....

    2. Re:Blinkenlights by iomud · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Why does that remind me of jar jar binks for some reason?

    3. Re:Blinkenlights by Emil+Brink · · Score: 3, Informative

      You might want to read up on your jargon, then. Here's a relevant entry. This is also linked to, btw, by the CCC page in the main article.

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    4. Re:Blinkenlights by hagar · · Score: 1

      But that book was published in January of 1999. I remember seeing a photocopied version (in a pseudo gothic german typeface) in the 80's.

      So it's probably not originally from that book.

    5. Re:Blinkenlights by Darkstar9969 · · Score: 1

      That's right. I've had one sitting over my computer since my father brought home a brand spanking new APPLE II right after they came out. I know dad got it from a CB radio friend who was also into computers but I don't know if it was computer related or not. I can verify the early 80's date however.

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    6. Re:Blinkenlights by netsharc · · Score: 1, Informative

      Well, here's the history of that sign from the Jargon File

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    7. Re:Blinkenlights by cbane · · Score: 1

      I went looking for a picture of that sign once, and found this. I have a printed copy on the front of my monitor. No one's asked me about it yet, though.

  10. yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    yeah, but can they play tetris on it????

    1. Re:yeah, but... by mocm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, but they are playing pong on it.

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    2. Re:yeah, but... by frozenray · · Score: 1

      yeah, but can they play tetris on it????

      Yup.

      Raymond

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    3. Re:yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Giant tetris:
      http://bastilleweb.techhouse.org/'

      Should be photos of Woz playing at woz.com

    4. Re:yeah, but... by Asic+Eng · · Score: 2
      Despite the moderation, mocm is absolutely right, the article states:

      During the night, a constantly growing number of animations can be seen. But there is an interactive component as well: you can play the old arcade classic pong on the house using your mobile phone and you can place your own loveletters on the screen

    5. Re:yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'll go home right now (it's 8pm berlin time) & quite often tetris is running on the building. it's just so sweeeeet...

  11. Mmm. Low res activism. by citricacid · · Score: 5, Funny
    This is a pretty awesome project. I noticed their group is concerned about censorship. Now they should combine their uber-display with the German porn restrictions and fight the man with a few extremely low-res women!

    Oh turn me on Helga. Turn me on.

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    1. Re:Mmm. Low res activism. by jesser · · Score: 1

      extremely low-res women

      Look no further than the winner of this year's 5k contest: PixxxelChix. (The 5k contest is "make something cool using five kilobytes of web space".)

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  12. Now all the trolls scramble together... by TheMidget · · Score: 1

    ... to see who is the first to come up with a recognizable 8x18 rendition of you-know-who.

  13. The best part... by illusion_2K · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is that they ported pong to it.

    Damn these guys are cool (in an ultra-geeky way).

    1. Re:The best part... by gazbo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yeah, mod this up. It's not like its in the post or anything.

    2. Re:The best part... by illusion_2K · · Score: 1

      I know - I'm stupid, but if it makes any difference I was reading it just after I woke up. Didn't really register with me when I was reading the post.

      Didn't expect it to be modded up, but it's not that big a deal.

      (avaiting appropriate mod-down)

    3. Re:The best part... by gazbo · · Score: 1

      Apology accepted.

      I can't claim I've never done such things and regretted it as soon as I've reread the article...

  14. It should have won the Turner Prize. by ayjay29 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Madonna presented the £20,000 ($30,000) Turner prize to Martin Creed for a work of 'art' entitled "The Lights Going On and Off" which basically consists of an empty gallery, and two lights that do indeed go on and off. Other winners have included dirty underwear and an unmade bed.

    Read about it here...

    Shame us Nerds never enter these competitions, my exhibit "Servers in Various States of Disrepair" is surly a strong contender.

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    1. Re:It should have won the Turner Prize. by Johnny+Shellshock · · Score: 1

      Do you mean a strong, surly contender? :-)

    2. Re:It should have won the Turner Prize. by awol · · Score: 1

      Sadly, this is _not_ funny. It is a searing indictment of the modern art community. The turner should be reawarded to CCC immediately.

      What _is_ funny is how this story hits /. the day after the turner is awarded. Timing, as ever, is the essence of comedy

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    3. Re:It should have won the Turner Prize. by streetlawyer · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Since the Turner Prize is for a British artist, I'm assuming you mean that we should finish the job we started in 1945.

    4. Re:It should have won the Turner Prize. by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2
      Somebody disagrees with the winner, and that's a "searing indictment"!? You must live someplace very gentle.

      If it will help, though, I'd be willing to chime in with, "Hell, my kid could've done that!" or "But it's not a picture of anything!"

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    5. Re:It should have won the Turner Prize. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The artist himself admits that "The Lights Going on and Off" isn't about anything "Its just the lights going on and off"

    6. Re:It should have won the Turner Prize. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I totally agree. The Blinkenlights is a MUCH more significant work of art than the Turner prize winner. Blinkenlights is great because the execution is so elegant and inspiring. The opportunity for public interaction gives it more depth. It's a fantastic example of the directions art can go in the 21st century. Real inspiration, real skill, real thought. So much better than an empty room and a light switch.

    7. Re:It should have won the Turner Prize. by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2

      Certainly. In other news of the art world, Terry Pratchett recently admitted that many of his Discworld books aren't true. "I just make stuff up", he confessed.

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    8. Re:It should have won the Turner Prize. by theancient2 · · Score: 1

      This falls under the "I just don't get it" category -- but to question it is to somehow admit that you are uncultured? Like the 1.8 million dollar red stripe purchased by the National Gallery a few years ago. (I've seen this painting in person. It's big. Otherwise, much the same as the picture. I'm not sure why it's worth so much more than "Yellow Edge," which is.... a blank black canvas with one edge painted yellow.)

      Who can honestly tell me why something like this is so brilliant? And why, say, an exhibit consisting of two telephones ringing (an idea I just came up with this moment, believe it or not) wouldn't be worthy of a cash prize?

      My best guess is that everyone says "oh, yes, it's brilliant" just so they look like a fine art connaisseur. After all, someone thought it was brilliant, and that person is obviously more qualified to judge art than I am... so to question it would be to appear ignorant.

  15. Similar projects by YKnot · · Score: 5, Informative

    Tetris for big-thinking people:
    La Bastille: A Tech House Art Installation
    That installation was up only a few days, though.

    1. Re:Similar projects by CoreDump · · Score: 4, Funny
      The La Batille project was definitely cool, but this implementation definitely blows the Tech House away in terms of sheer coolness, because it's open to anyone to submit to and play with.

      Another cool thing is that they also distributed some programs to help you visualize the movies here.

      And to think that I thought putting my xmas lights up and controllng them with X10 modules was pretty nifty. Oh well, time to start thinking bigger for next year!

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    2. Re:Similar projects by YKnot · · Score: 3, Informative

      I gathered similar projects into a single comment. I know that this is redundant, strictly speaking, but I'll post anyway. It's much more accessible this way. I'm knocking on the karma cap anyway, so no, this isn't whoring, just risking to get modded down for redundancy. Enough blabber, here we go:

      Chaos Computer Club Blinkenlights, Berlin, Germany
      18 x 8 matrix of white lights
      Links:
      http://www.blinkenlights.de/

      KPN Building, Rotterdam, Netherlands
      22 x 44 matrix of green lights
      Links:
      http://home.wanadoo.nl/makiueda/climbman/index-e.h tml
      http://www.blezer2.myweb.nl/rotterdam2000/building s/kpn.html

      La Bastille: A Tech House Installation, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
      10 x 10 matrix of white lights
      Links:
      http://bastilleweb.techhouse.org/
      http://slashdot.org/articles/00/04/16/2148245.shtm l

      Marnix 2001, Brussels, Belgium
      52 x 7 matrix of RGB lights
      Links:
      http://marnix2001.bbl.be/

      TU-Delft Electro Technology SMS-Display, Delft, Netherlands
      264 lights (unknown configuration), displayed mobile phone short messages
      Links:
      http://etv.its.tudelft.nl/commissies/lustrum/stunt .php

      TU-Delft Electro Technology Tetris, Delft, Netherlands
      10 x 15 matrix of white lights
      Links:
      http://etv.et.tudelft.nl/commissies/lustrum/90/eng lish.html

      MIT's Green Building Sound (VU) Meter, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
      9 x 1 matrix of red lights
      Links:
      http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1993/green_bldg _vu_meter/green_bldg_vu_meter.html

      Clickscape 98, Linz, Austria
      13 x 8 matrix of white lights
      Links:
      http://www.servus.at/clickscape98/

      Poli-uni students dorm, Warsaw, Poland
      14 x 16 matrix of white lights
      Links:
      http://www.astercity.net/~kvas/riviera.jpg

  16. been done by Weh · · Score: 1

    They did it at a 20 something story building at my university a while ago. IIRC they used it to play tetris.

    1. Re:been done by Weh · · Score: 3, Informative
  17. Colour version in Brussels for the millenium. by fingal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have a vague memory (aided and abetted by a fine bottle of Lagavullin) of new year 2000 seeing a similar thing in Brussels that was put into place on one of the bank headquarters there. This used two or three chunky colour changers per window and gave a resolution of about 50x20 if my memory serves me. Looked very pretty as well in full colour, but the choice of content wasn't nearly as cool as the Chaos lot.

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    1. Re:Colour version in Brussels for the millenium. by PatSmarty · · Score: 1

      I wonder if greyscale pictures could be achieved at blinkenlights.de by rapidly flashing pixels on and off? The Specs say that you can get as short as 1 millisecond for one frame!

  18. The hard part... by ch-chuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it would seem to me, is getting permission from the bldg owners/occupants - otherwise you just wire a big relay panel by the breakers and drive them with an output port, nothing extremely new or anything, just takes some effort, time, and of course, euro's. Getting past the liability lawyers and insurance agents...

    You want to WHAT?? WHY????

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  19. MIT Hack by spiny · · Score: 3, Redundant

    didn't the MIT guys do this already?

    link: http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1993/green_bldg _vu_meter/

    and quite a while ago too ....

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  20. More info on the colour version in Brussels... by fingal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    much web crawling later, you should check out Marnix 2001 for the high budget alternative...

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  21. Color Blinkenlights by Enigmia+Man · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Too bad they didn't use three lamps per window; red, green, and blue. Each controlled by a digital dimmer with 256 levels. The resolution would be even greater than the icons in your favorites folers.

    1. Re:Color Blinkenlights by dissy · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a usage for those X10 lamp dimmer modules and a PC->X10 interface.

      The PC just blasts out commands to change the dimmer setting which i believe actually is 256.

      Only downside is being limited to the number of codes you can assign modules and hope no groups are in use already.

      --Jon

    2. Re:Color Blinkenlights by nihilist_1137 · · Score: 1

      An X-10 ad that big? Thats just asking for trouble.

  22. I wouldn't like to... by saqmaster · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...pay for the replacement lightbulbs..

    And I wonder how much it costs to play pong?

    This could be largest arcade machine in the world!

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    1. Re:I wouldn't like to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calling the number (0190-987654) is DM 2.42 per minute (~ 1.10 USD). It a bit expensive for pong, but if you registered a "blinkenlights movie" with them you can enter a code and play your movie at the same price.

  23. TU-Delft by Fuzzums · · Score: 3, Informative

    The TU-Delft did the same thing in feb. this year as a stunt. Only they used a 23 floor building to display messages and to play snake :)
    Sorry, I coundn't find pictures and the text is in dutch
    http://etv.its.tudelft.nl/commissies/lustrum/stu nt .php

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    1. Re:TU-Delft by rigolo · · Score: 1

      Currently the new KPN building in Rotterdam is doing this, and this is permanent. They also play snake on the building, and show falling leaves and other art.
      I found this page in dutch http://www.kopvanzuid.rotterdam.nl/2202.htm

      They use almost 1000 !! green lights on a 94 * 40 meter side of the building. The lights are 1.8 M apart and are computer controlled.

      Rigolo

    2. Re:TU-Delft by steeph · · Score: 1

      About 5 years (maybe even more) a few students created Tetris on this building, the faculty of electronics.
      This year other students displayed SMS-messages on scrolling display and did some graphic things.
      I could see it from my bedroom window ;->

  24. Better than what I did. by slim · · Score: 5, Interesting
    When I was at Aston University in (um) 1994, I lived in one of three neighbouring 20 storey tower blocks, all student residences.
    Prompted by tales of this having happened in the past, I created a poster consisting of a picture of a desk lamp, a date and time, and the words "watch and copy", one of which I placed in the foyer of each building.


    At the allotted time, I turned off my main room light, and began flashing my desklamp on and off. Within 5 minutes all three towers were shimmering, including, I'm told, the faces not visible from my window.


    It was a neat, if not original, social hack, and a lot of fun... This thing in Berlin is much cooler technically of course.

    1. Re:Better than what I did. by jridley · · Score: 1

      We used to do that in the 80's at Michigan Tech also, but we didn't need the sign.

      Actually, I remember doing it when I was up there for summer youth program as a high schooler in the 70's too. And I bet they were doing it in the 40's as well :-)

  25. loveparade! by callmegracie · · Score: 0, Interesting
    i gotta submit some animations in case i make it to the loveparade this year (july 13th).

    i'm thinking a PEACE-LOVE-UNITY-RESPECT sequence is in order. or maybe somebody with some skills could make a little DJ : )

    gracie

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    1. Re:loveparade! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God damn it, loveparade is so gay. Raves are gay. They reflect badly on Europe, electronic music, and youth in general.

  26. Canary Wharf by PhatAir · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I seem to remember Canary Wharf (London's tallest building with 100+ floors) doing something like this in the early 90's. They were having trouble selling some of the space so organised the office lights to blink on and off in patterns as a giant advert!

  27. This has already been done (in '98!) by RmU · · Score: 0
  28. Re:bah by nomadic · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Does anyone else find the term "blinkenlights" extremely annoying? And no, I don't really care that it was in the jargon file ("oooh, the jargon file").

    I was marked down redundant for that? Didn't see anyone else express their annoyance, but I'm glad I'm not alone...

  29. Reminiscent of the Green Building by red_dragon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This reminds me of the various hacks done on the Green Building at MIT, my favourite being the VU metre.

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  30. Re:Sorry, old news... by Lispy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    hmm...well, i realized...but one cant always win...

  31. CCC is a hacker organization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    and as such they should be arrested, tried in a military court, and executed by the US as terrorists. These people are clearly not normal after doing something like this. If you are normal you are a good Christian who listens to Britney Spears, NSync, etc, eats and McDonalds, and has no "technical" hobbies. If you don't fit this profile then you are a terrorist.

  32. Re:bah by gazbo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Ah, go on then. I'll stick up for you. He's right, it's not redundant (maybe offtopic...)

    I am a big fan of (most of) the jargon file, but people seem to wave it around as validation of anything they say. I can't help but feel that if it weren't for the jargon file, we wouldn't have as many tossers writing, for example, FUD in every post:

    A: I like pine because it's smaller than Mutt
    B: Stop spreading FUD

    Not very appropriate, but hey! It's in the jargon file.

    The jargon file is very interesting, informative and amusing on the whole, but that doesn't mean that to be a true hacker you have to religiously use each entry (in fact, IIRC, I believe the editor suggests that such use is a way of discovering a newbie) And blinkenlights is simply a lame ass joke, the sort of thing I get sent by email all of the time, and delete after a brief glance.

    There we go, nomadic, I'll take some of the heat for you. I've never cared too much for karma.

  33. Re:yeah, but... NOT offtopic by jridley · · Score: 2, Informative

    He's referring to a similar project a couple of years ago where you could play tetris on a building using a controller attached to the lights in the building.

  34. Commercial blinkenlichten 24x7 by elal1862 · · Score: 0

    I>Been there, saw a commercial version...
    All KPN Telecom (animated) ads, all the time(!)

  35. Weak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really, really weak. As a poor parody of a Trool, you should be strung up with Cowboy Neals old underpants and whiped by Jon Katz in a leather thong, all the while with Taco snotting on your body and face. Then maybe a nice date with goatse.cx man in a romantic, rubber covered room. With lots of KY and custard. Ohhh yeah baby!

  36. It's cooler than that! by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    Let's see someone do that in the US, eh?

    Then it could flash the ultimate symbol of our culture: ©

    If they tried it in California, no doubt someone would winge about the energy crisis, though maybe elsewhere it could be just the shot in the arm Enron needs. ;)

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  37. The Ideal Use Is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The ideal use is to display the score of the last England vs. Germany football match 5-1 (to England).

  38. Cool Project, but... by libertynews · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It seems to me that it would have been alot easier to maintain and control if they had used X-10 controllers with wireless modules to span any splits in the power lines. The others reader's idea of colored lamps would be neat as well.

    I don't know if there are X-10 modules available in Germany though. Seems like an awful lot of work to run all that power around the building when you could just plug the lamp into a control modules and run it all with a firecracker X-10 serial controller.

    Brian

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    1. Re:Cool Project, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      X-10 would take to long. It takes .63 seconds to send 1 command.

    2. Re:Cool Project, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, too slow for each command...a typical tetris brick falling one row might turn on 3 lights and turn off three lights, which would take 4 or 5 seconds. Then you have the issue of different circuits, like each floor may have its own circuit, and the X10 signal may or may not propegate between them properly.

    3. Re:Cool Project, but... by libertynews · · Score: 1

      Good point, I hadn't realized the commands took that long. My X-10 experience consists of turning a plant light on and off, so timing really wasn't an issue.

      Brian

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  39. quite recently - 14x16 display by Kvasio · · Score: 1, Interesting

    here poli-uni students dorm in Warsaw.

  40. how it is done... by psych031337 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here is a quick summary of the tech behing the buzz for all those who don`t want dig through "fishy" translations:

    8 stories with 18 windows each

    each windows is illuminated by a pretty standard contruction lamp with 150W

    each lamp is connected to a relais (sp?)

    the "Blinkenlights Chaos Control Center" is located in the top story

    each relais is connected to the control machine with a simple amplifying circuit

    5000m of cable were used (about 5500yards)

    3 networked machines are used for central switching control, playing console and remote control

    to ensure even illumination all windows have been covered with white paint

    The entire setup took less than 4 weeks from idea to realization

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    1. Re:how it is done... by christoph_s · · Score: 1

      you don't have to use the fish, if you know how to click on the "en" in the upper right corner...

    2. Re:how it is done... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's "relay", which probably sounds just like "relais"

  41. Entirely Relevant by jaavaaguru · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The BBC Reported A student group at Brown University converted their Science Library into a giant video game screen by installing over 10,000 Christmas lights in the windows. on Wednesday, 19 April, 2000. Someone said this was "Off Topic", but as it also appeals to people who get excited about using large non-comkputer-oriented objects as video displays, then it is entirely relevant. I like the idea of both this and the CCC Blinkenlights. Talking of blinkenlights, try telnetting to here and see a starwars movie via telnet. I think this has been around for about as long as the CCC's Blinkenlights page has.

  42. Been there for months already... by EboMike · · Score: 1

    But anyway, that's not news at all, it's been around for at least three weeks...

    Actually, it's been there for months. According to the site, that thing started in September this year. And I do remember having heard of it many times in the last few months.

  43. blinking lights! by Marcus+Brody · · Score: 3, Funny

    I posted my loveletter to the CCC, took my sweetheart to the restaurant across the road, and sat down at the prime wndow table. Staring romantically towards the glowing lights, framed by the shimmering stars and a huge moon, my message appeared....

    "Linda, Will you mar"

    Unfortunately, I had forgotten it was only 18 x 8 pixels. Darn. Then there was a powercut.

  44. Done before and better. by PT3R · · Score: 1

    Yes it's cool and yes it's chaos computer club but this is way cooler: http://marnix2001.bbl.be

  45. Slapdick Strikes Again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, look everyone! Another DUPLICATE STORY!

  46. Re:bah by gazbo · · Score: 1

    I realise they don't come out of the jargon file. The point is that the jargon file has made a lot of people use the expression for no reason other than that they saw it in the jargon file.

    Also, your blinkenlightenflooden was unlikely to irritate me, it was the other poster who hated that word - I'm more annoyed by 'FUD'.

    Finally, if you are going to reply to this (e.g. to write the word 'FUD' a lot) then for God's sake, log in! If it's important enough to reply to, then it's worth burning karma on. Karma really isn't that big a deal.

    Unless you were posting as AC so as not to clog up the thread with a +1 post, of course.

  47. Read the fucking article. by greygent · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Read the fucking article. They're using X10 shit and lamps. And your post got moderated +3!

    1. Re:Read the fucking article. by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

      Ok, I RTFA but I can *still* do the same thing fairly easily if some building owner would permit it. Another issue, at least in the states, are laws banning annoying advertising as a distraction to motorists. ("Hey look! They're playing pong on that build...").

      Whatever - it's a great display.

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  48. Live cam of the setup here. by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://berlin.ccc.de/~hans/cam2.jpg

    Also see the site dedicated to the event here.

  49. 20736 lights! (according to the article) by bbqdeath · · Score: 1

    From http://www.blinkenlights.de/: "... by arranging 144 lamps behind each of the windows." (emphasis mine.)

  50. This has been asked before, but... by cr0sh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...I have to ask it again:

    How are they really able to do this?

    I don't mean the technical part (that part is relatively easy, from a hardware standpoint). I mean the legal/economic part?

    Perhaps they got a grant for artistic reasons - but I tend to doubt that because they did it in four weeks.

    The building seems to be pretty large - how did they:

    a) Obtain an entire building for use for several months, and
    b) Were allowed to paint 144 windows, and
    c) Get the money to pay for bandwidth and electricity (somebody is paying it!), and
    d) Do all of this inside of four weeks

    ???

    The building can't be vacant - though it kinda looks that way from the pictures. Still, somebody owns it, and has to pay electricity and other costs, and would thus have to pass that along to the CCC (unless they have a "rich" member of the CCC who owns the building, which is quite possible), right?

    Furthermore, wouldn't there be permits and such for such large public displays that would have to be procurred from the city government? Maybe things are radically different over there, and such legal stuff is easy to obtain in a very short amount of time, or not needed at all.

    Maybe I am misunderstanding what CCC is? What function do they perform (I don't think they are a hacker group, right? Wasn't that something called the Kaos Komputer Klub?). I am just curious how they managed to pull off such a large display without running into financial or legal issues.

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    1. Re:This has been asked before, but... by Markus+Peter · · Score: 2


      > a) Obtain an entire building for use for several months, and
      > b) Were allowed to paint 144 windows, and

      The building is scheduled to be torn down in a couple of months, so I guess this answers questions a) and b)

      > c) Get the money to pay for bandwidth and electricity (somebody is paying it!)

      The main cost factor AFAIK is actually replacing burnt-out bulbs.
      Playing Pong there and similar actions require calling a rather high-cost telephone number where the CCC will receive a share of the income, and taking the huge (press and otherwise) echo of this project into account, it should be able to cover the costs completely.

    2. Re:This has been asked before, but... by cr0sh · · Score: 2

      If that is the case, then it answers the questions, most surely! But then, it begs another question, all the same:

      How did they get permission (ie, from the owner and the city, not to mention any insurance company) to use what is essentially a "condemmed" building?

      Unless things really are VERY lax over there - such use would have a snowball's chance of happening here in the USA!

      BTW, do you have any links where they (the CCC) discuss this aspect?

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    3. Re:This has been asked before, but... by stesch · · Score: 1

      It's a free country.

    4. Re:This has been asked before, but... by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 1

      Just because a bulding is abandoned and scheduled to be torn down does NOT make it condemned...

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    5. Re:This has been asked before, but... by Mike1024 · · Score: 2

      Hey,

      a) Obtain an entire building for use for several months

      They would only have needed to aim lights at the front windows... thehy wouldn't need the building, just to point lights at the windows.

      b) Were allowed to paint 144 windows

      Around christmas, stores stock that spray-on snow, which is consistent and white, but which cleans off. It wouldn't be too hard to get hold of some, I'm sure...

      c) Get the money to pay for bandwidth and electricity (somebody is paying it!)

      From the site: "Use your mobile phone to play the arcade classic Pong right on the house. Just dial the number 0190-987654 (DM 2.42/min)". It's the same rate for love messages.

      d) Do all of this inside of four weeks

      The electronics would be fairly simple... just repetitive. Good software would be harder, but the CCC have pleanty of capable programmers.

      Michael

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      "Goodness me, how unlike the FBI to abuse the trust of the American public." -- The Onion
  51. Re:bah by nomadic · · Score: 2

    Finally, if you are going to reply to this (e.g. to write the word 'FUD' a lot) then for God's sake, log in! If it's important enough to reply to, then it's worth burning karma on. Karma really isn't that big a deal.

    Yep, what's the point of getting karma if you're not going to spend it? For example, I'm posting this at +1, it's going to get modded down at least twice, but who cares?

  52. Re:*** KARMA WHORE ALERT! *** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fear not troll meister. The errant moderators will be punished during metamod.

    My daily attack on stupid mofos like these three moderator assclowns is only a small fight, but it should punish the stupid.

  53. Lasers in Davos by Aztech · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This reminds me of the World Economic Forum in Davos (Switzerland) last January, the town sits within a valley with snow covered mountains each side, they used a high powered laser to project words onto the snowy hill above the town, you could submit messages through the web or via SMS (GSM text).

  54. blinkenlights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thats just fucking cool,

    to see a giant heart from the sky..

    what a beautiful thing, and for the nerds to display their prowess at the same time.

    some times it seems that we live in a beautiful world. thanks to all those who maintain hope\love and the desire to be - human

  55. Featured in a video of the Toten Hosen by he-sk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Also, when Blinkenlights are taken down (hopefully not to soon, but hey!, I just live ten minutes away), you can always enjoy part of the performance in the new video by the Toten Hosen, a German punk-band (from Hamburg, that is).

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    1. Re:Featured in a video of the Toten Hosen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > you can always enjoy part of the performance in the new video by the Toten Hosen, a German punk-band (from Hamburg, that is).

      What kind of crack are you on? The 'Hosen' sure aren't from Hamburg. Duesseldorf is more like it.

    2. Re:Featured in a video of the Toten Hosen by he-sk · · Score: 1

      I really don't know what I've been smoking. Must have been the good stuff, though! You're sure right.

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  56. Even though you got mod'ed down to hell... by cr0sh · · Score: 2

    I have to ask you "WTF are you talking about?"

    First off, while I am certainly not the youngest on /. I know I am not the oldest - I am 28 years old!

    As far as being a tree-hugger, while I certainly don't like the practices some companies do to the environment, I certainly do not wish to shut down the entire industrial sector and go live in the woods - I believe there can be a happy medium.

    Finally, I fail to see how any of this has to do with my question?

    I was sincerely curious as to how they pulled this off - and from what I have found out, it seems they have done it with an abandoned, possibly condemned building. I was originally figuring they either had a rich person who was a member of the CCC who owned an entire building for himself (hey, I have nothing against this - it would be that person's money to decide what they did with it), or they possibly used a building under construction.

    The idea that they are using a building slated for destruction makes the most sense, though. However, I still find it amazing that they got the permission to do this from all relevant sources. Of course, as one person replied, I am sure with big hint of sarcasm (and perhaps irony), it is possible because Germany "is a free country". I understand this individual's meaning.

    What he said and the fact that such a display would be nigh impossible to do here in the USA says something about our society - and that troubles me.

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  57. I have a picture!! by Telek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was there from Nov 28 to Dec 02 just wandering around Berlin, and I saw this and took a picture. you can find it here (take a note of the uptime, that's a W2K machine!)

    In any case, it was pretty cool and I was watching it for a while, but that really doesn't look like a house, it's an office building in downtown Berlin... well "downtown" Berlin...

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    If God gave us curiosity
  58. "wireless" Client/Server method? by BKDotCom · · Score: 1
    Assuming every room/window has a computer on a network is there an easier way to do this?

    Is anything available similar to this Serial Power Controller (RPC100S) at at least 1/10th the cost?

  59. MIT Hack Complete URLs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1993/green_bldg _vu_meter/green_bldg_vu_meter.html

    The index of listed Green Building Hacks is here:
    http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_location/54.html

  60. Those responsible have been sacked by David+Gould · · Score: 1

    Well, not really, but four "Offtopic" moderations on this story have beem metamoderated as "Unfair".

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  61. The Geek way by Poppageorgio · · Score: 0

    For the redneck geek who dosen't have the time to spraypaint on an overpass...

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