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The Tick to be Cancelled

mr.buddylee writes "This is a short write up, but evidently The Tick is going to be cancelled. " There really isn't much there to read except the notice. I'll keep watching until the last episode airs on Jan 24. I enjoyed it even if it was put in a terrifying time slot guaranteeing that nobody saw it. I think if it had a full season to find a footing it would have been a real winner. Ah well, good luck to Ben and his future projects.

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  1. Good riddance by Kutsal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I didn't like it at all anyways :P

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    1. Re:Good riddance by Navarre · · Score: 2

      Neither did I. I love the cartoon, but this show had none of the silly magic that made the cartoon great. It was just...dumb. Sad but true.

    2. Re:Good riddance by aka-ed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      IMO, it had a different "silly magic." I loved Warburton's Tick, though it was as different from the animated version as Tom Welling's "Superboy" is different from Kirk Allyn's "Superman." His deadpan simplicity remins me of Dave Einstein ("Super Dave") before he got old and lost a bit of his skills.

      I lost all hope for the series' continuance just a few minutes ago when I checked the TV sched and found an all-night marathon of the crappiest cartoon on earth, "The Family Man."

      This does not make the world a better place. YMMV.

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    3. Re:Good riddance by nyquil · · Score: 1

      isnt that "Super" Dave Osbourne?

    4. Re:Good riddance by RoninM · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's Bob Einstein, actually.

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    5. Re:Good riddance by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      Y'know, I don't deserve a +3 for such a simple statement, and I expect someone will downmod the above statement soon. But I understand why it's so generously modded right now. Ben E. had the good graces to share his thoughts on the series with us here in /., and it was clear that this show was "his baby." If he's reading this, it can't be pleasant to see all these "fans of the cartoon" piling on to spit, piss and defecate on the grave of this infant. Especially considering that it was much closer in spirit to his original comic book creation. I hope he can stand reading long enough to read the intelligent posts by some of the show's fans, which become more numerous after you get past all the 'early posters.'

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    6. Re:Good riddance by drsoran · · Score: 1

      We've got West Wing, Will and Grace, Friends, Third Watch and ER. What more could you want in Prime Time?

    7. Re:Good riddance by chemical55 · · Score: 1

      Seriously, if I don't like the show, does that mean I shouldn't comment? I just feel that the program was not funny. I wanted to like it, wanted it to succeed, but just couldn't get into rational criticism of everything? Practically everything was somebody's baby at one time, does that mean we should walk around on eggshells?

    8. Re:Good riddance by silverbax · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I tried to watch the show, Patrick is a funny guy and so is the Tick character ( in concept)...but the show was just mind-numbingly awful. I barely made it through two episodes.

    9. Re:Good riddance by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      You have every right to post. Hopefully, something more insightful than "Where's the villains? This isn't like the cartoon."

      I may feel badly about your post, and I may post about that feeling -- it doesn't mean I don't want you to post.

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    10. Re:Good riddance by SnapShot · · Score: 1

      I also loved the cartoon. It was a reason to get up on a Saturday morning. Of the few episodes I saw, I thought the live action version was, for want of a better term, "mean spirited". It wasn't able to protray the true innocence of The Tick.

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    11. Re:Good riddance by buckeyeguy · · Score: 1
      We've got West Wing, Will and Grace, Friends, Third Watch and ER. What more could you want in Prime Time?

      So your wife/girlfriend hid the remote from you, eh? ;)

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    12. Re:Good riddance by drsoran · · Score: 1

      Heh, that's basically how it works. Time to buy a big screen TV for the basement. :-)

    13. Re:Good riddance by PeeOnYou2 · · Score: 1

      Family Guy is the best show ever!!! GOD DAMN STUPID 20 SECOND POST SHIT! ERASED MY GODDAMN POST 3 TIMES!

    14. Re:Good riddance by Jasirus · · Score: 1

      There is a reason why the tick is being canceled and "the family man" (Family Guy) isn't. Family guy I see to be trashed because it's intelligent stupidity. It has a witty quality among the madness that this abomination of the tick could never achieve. Although animation does rip down alot of barriers.

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    15. Re:Good riddance by buckeyeguy · · Score: 1
      haha... yeah, well like the Holiday Inn commercials say, 'Rock on, brother'

      mwhahaha

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  2. Awh by SkewlD00d · · Score: 1

    We'll have to go back to watching the cartoon series i guess.

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    1. Re:Awh by ndevice · · Score: 1

      yes, the cartoon series was much better - especailly the endings. Does anyone know if they're going to do any more of those?

  3. Eh, wasn't enough to keep you watching by Sc00ter · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I even have it on a season pass on my TiVo.. but I never watch it.. There's far better shows other there that I'd rather watch..

  4. Well, I'll miss it. by plover · · Score: 2
    Yes, apparently I'm the other guy who watched it. I really enjoy what they did with the Batmanuel character.

    Oh, well, I watched it on ReplayTV and skipped the commercials anyway, so I'm sure I made them no money.

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  5. Spooon? Spooon! by Audent · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Tick can NEVER be cancelled because the Tick is INDESTRUCTABLE!

    all I can say is: grip too tight. Must... Break... Free...

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    1. Re:Spooon? Spooon! by Acy+James+Stapp · · Score: 1, Redundant

      That's Nigh Invulnerable, my friend.

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    2. Re:Spooon? Spooon! by whizzird · · Score: 1

      Indestructable? I think not! Nigh Invulnerable maybe...

    3. Re:Spooon? Spooon! by BladeRider · · Score: 1

      Nigh-indestructable.

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  6. Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by coljac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a big fan of the Tick - the comic book is one of the few I can stand and the cartoon series is pure magic. But the live action show just didn't get its groove going after the pilot. One thing that was missing was the EVIL - most of the episodes spent more time on antics involving dates, sexual misunderstandings, etc, which are fine in their place but not really the best medium for The Tick's histrionics. To really show what the Tick can do, he needs to be yelling "Spoooon!" whilst crushing evil. If he has to overcome some sexual innuendo to do that, so much the better. But as a Seinfeld-like sitcom, the Tick was so lacklustre I actually forgot to watch a couple of episodes.

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    1. Re:Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by ndevice · · Score: 1

      well, if they had a kitten eating scene, that would qualify (according to the cartoon series) as pure evil

    2. Re:Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by Golias · · Score: 5, Informative
      Villains, you say? I think your memory of the book might be a little colored. The fact is that the book seldom focused on fighting villians at all! Let's review, shall we? (spoiler warning)

      Issue 1: The Tick jumps around buildings, meets some ninjas (but does not bother to fight them much, as they clearly pose no threat to him whatsoever), sits in a diner and argues with a waiter about being a tick, passes out and wakes up in a subway tunnel, is rescued by "Clark", a badly disguised superhero.

      Issue 2: Tick spends the entire issue trying to become Clark's friend, mostly pissing him off.

      Issue 3: The Tick actually fights some Ninjas, but 90% of the book is dialogue between Tick and Oedipus, or funny dialogue among the ninjas.

      Issue 4: More ninjas, but mostly time spent getting to know Arthur and Paul The Samurai.

      Issue 5: Ninja story resolved.

      Issue 6: Tick fights The Red Scare, who is not, in fact, a real villain, but an actor hired to pretend he is a villain. A lot of the focus is really on building the relationship between Arthur and Tick. ("You're not... funny, are you?")

      Issue 7: Chairface.

      That's right, folks, it took 7 issues (of a comic that only ran for 12) before the first major villain was actually introduced.

      And then from there... Issue 8 Tick and Arthur argue with Arthur's sister, and decide to leave the City.

      Issue 9 is a road trip story.

      Issue 10 is more road trippin'

      Issue 11, Tick and Arthur coping with New York superhero culture.

      Issue 12, Tick moves into his new home.

      The truth is that The Tick live-action show, with all of the time spend hanging around exchanging funny dialogue, was much closer in pace and tone to the original than the cartoon was. The cartoon could not really spend time pondering stuff like the sexuality of superheroes (which the book did A LOT, although in more subtle ways that the recent show did). Most of the fights in the comic were over in one or two panels, as the Tick was so absurdly hard for anybody to seriously hurt.

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    3. Re:Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by msobkow · · Score: 2
      That may be true, but the animated version was a lot funnier than the live version. There are just too many abuses you can put animated characters through that require expensive special effects for live footage.

      While I've watched all the live episodes I've been able to, I've rarely found myself laughing out loud, which happened regularly with the animation.

      If I had to blame the death of "The Tick" on something, it would be weak writing.

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    4. Re:Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by coljac · · Score: 3, Informative

      OK, perhaps a comparison to the cartoon is more relevant.

      Episode 1: The Idea Men
      2: Chairface
      3: Dinosaur Neil
      4: Mr Mental
      5: The BreadMaster
      6: El Seed
      ... and so on.

      Practically every episode had a humorous villain, which gave every episode focus but made the general "life" problems more funny because of the disconnect between supervillainy and trying to fix the microwave, etc.

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    5. Re:Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by Golias · · Score: 2
      When you have that much talk and so little actions, what's the point? The hero doesn't have to overcome anything. It just appears to me the that the tick was just a wanna-be!!!!

      You just answered your own question. The Tick was, in fact, a wanna-be superhero.

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  7. Oh well...I won't miss it... by FatSean · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sorry, I was brought up on the Tick Cartoon, not the comic book. Missing all m favorite villians was one strike. The loss of Tick's yperKinetic movements was a 2nd strike. There really was no third strike, but I didn't see the show getting a hit anyway. It was a good try though...

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  8. *yawn* by M3wThr33 · · Score: 1

    The show, albeit crazy, was so predictable after a certain amount of time and it became a pain to sit through it. Of course, who can sit through a first season's episode of the Simpsons now?

    1. Re:*yawn* by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually I rather like the first season of Simpsons...the show was just a show back then, and didn't carry around the baggage that it does now. That being said, I'm glad the Tick was cancelled. I watched an episode, and it was just the usual sitcom formula that hasn't been refreshed since 1972. Better to have it dead and gone, than possibly become popular and tarnish the Tick's image.

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    2. Re:*yawn* by displaytest · · Score: 1

      The first season was one of the best! Sure things were a little rougher, but the characters were much closer to reality than they are today - now they're just caricatures of themselves. I can't even stand to watch any of the episodes since "Who shot Mr. Burns?"

  9. Patrick Warburton by cliffy2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Will always be David Putty in my heart of hearts.
    (Before this gets modded down, Warburton portrayed the Tick. Not completely random.)

    1. Re:Patrick Warburton by theNeophile · · Score: 1

      This is really offtopic but: In my heart of hearts he will always be Johnny Johnson (Jimmy James' rival in NewsRadio)

  10. Dang by JWhiton · · Score: 5, Funny

    I suspected this would happen. The thing is about The Tick is that your average Fox viewer isn't intelligent enough to get any of the jokes.

    Now, I'm not saying everyone who watches Fox is cranially deficient, but think about the kind of shows the network survives on. Ally McBeal. Melrose Place. Temptation freakin' Island! The network is built on running low-brow shows that copy from other successful shows. When The Tick delivers one of his trademark metaphors, most of the audience is wondering why they aren't seeing any car chases or strippers.

    Now I'll admit that Fox's early reason for surviving was the Simpsons, but that's an exception in a sea of low-quality knock-offs.

    I'll miss ya, Tick.

    1. Re:Dang by wurp · · Score: 2

      I watched the show, and it was very good. WIth The Tick as their starting material, it could have been better, but I laughed my ass off and I don't watch TV, as a rule.

    2. Re:Dang by alexmogil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What other shows, especially sitcoms, are *not* idiotic today? Hell, even NBC's wildly-successful show Emeril had (BAM!) a sex plot in one of it's episodes. Or, better yet - Onnna the Friends is gonna havea baybeee outta wedlock! Who could it beeee!?To say FOX has nothing but low-brow shows tells me you've ne'er watched Malcom, King of the Hill, or Futurama.There's good writing there. You just gotta look for it.

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    3. Re:Dang by breon.halling · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Fox's early reason for surviving was the Simpsons

      Actually, if I recall correctly, it was "Married with Children..." that was Fox's first major success.

      This, however, lends even more credence to your argument. ;)

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    4. Re:Dang by Spire · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Scrubs and Undeclared, the latter of which, unfortunately, is in danger of being canceled.

      Scrubs, on the other hand, has just been renewed for a second season. Dr. Cox r00lz!

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    5. Re:Dang by Anomaly+Coward · · Score: 1

      Excuse me? Fox has 90% of the best shows on network television. Just to name some: Simpsons, Futurama, XFiles, Malcom in the MIddle, King of the Hill, Ally McBeal, Boston Public, That 70's show, Undeclared, Family Guy, The Tick (albeit not anymore), 24, and probably some others that I'm forgetting. What does NBC have? Friends? What about ABC? Drew Carey? WB, UPN, CBS? Nadda...

      And to say that The Tick is more intelligent than the other shows on Fox just suggests a bit of a warped perspective.

    6. Re:Dang by flotsam+or+jetset · · Score: 1

      Com'on! Fox Family DID save Freaks and Geeks for a year! The Tick is an unfortunate loss. Hopefully Sci-Fi will pick it up. If not it's further proof that there just aren't enough channels...

    7. Re:Dang by Otter · · Score: 2
      The thing is about The Tick is that your average Fox viewer isn't intelligent enough to get any of the jokes.

      Or, maybe, the show only has three or four jokes and, while they're funny, they wear out after a few weeks. The Tick speaks in weird metaphors, his fellow superheros have the foibles and frustrations of ordinary mortals and -- OK, two jokes. Oh, and he used to yell "Spoooon!" but he doesn't do that any more for copyright reasons.

      It was good for a few laughs but did you guys really think this was going to stay on the air for more than a season or two?

    8. Re:Dang by stickb0y · · Score: 1

      "Spoon!" was from the comic, not from the cartoon, so there shouldn't be any copyright problems with that.

      Of course, that just begs the question: why isn't he saying "Spoon!" then?

      I would guess that it's because--as has already been noted--there has been a general lack of villainy so far. What's the use for a battle cry without any battles?

      (Then again, having a battle cry with no battles to fight wouldn't be so unusual in Tick's world...)

    9. Re:Dang by Golias · · Score: 2
      Ben Edlund himself pointed out that "Spooon!" was not introduced until several issues into the comic, nor did it appear into the cartoon during the first few episodes (season 2, IIRC).

      Why should anybody expect the gag to be pounded out during the first 6 episodes of the live show?

      All these fucking fanboys whining about how it's not the same as the dumbed-down cartoon make me want to puke. The original books WERE the tick. All else (Tick issues by other authors, the cartoon series, the live show, the toys, etc.) are merely Ben Edlund's well-deserved opportunity to pay off his college loans.

      Personally, I thought the cartoon was okay, if a little shallow... and the live series started out kind of weak in the pilot episode but found its legs quickly and was easilly better than 90% of the shit that gets passed on as comedy these days.

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    10. Re:Dang by Wolfger · · Score: 1

      "Now, I'm not saying everyone who watches Fox is cranially deficient, but think about the kind of shows the network survives on."

      You mean like Simpsons, Malcom, X-Files, Boston Public, 70's Show, and Dark Angel? I would mention Futurama here too, but Fox doesn't really survive on that show, that show survives on Fox, and is perpetually on the brink of being cancelled, for the same reasons as the Tick. Bad time slot, and the humor is completely lost on some people. But don't slam Fox's lineup. I haven't seen better shows on any other network!

    11. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The thing is about The Tick is that your average Fox viewer isn't intelligent enough to get any of the jokes.

      It's a guy in blue tights with fake muscles. I think if you read anything more into this show than it was a complete idiotic waste of time you're a moron.

    12. Re:Dang by _J_ · · Score: 2, Funny

      But I loved the metaphors....

      "You're on a first name basis with lucidity, chum. I have to call him Mr. Lucidity, which is no good when you're in a pinch."

      J:)

    13. Re:Dang by Brainboy · · Score: 1

      Yes! I am not the only one on Slashdot who LOVED the metaphors. One my fav, quotes from that show

      "We're mavericks Arthur. When life says 'Jump' we say 'Pass the Salt'"

      Same episode coincidentally. But anyways I really like the live-action Tick. Bad time slot however. I'm sorry to see it go.

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    14. Re:Dang by Zurion · · Score: 2

      Wow! I wouldn't have said this at all. Granted there are some really, REALLY terrible shows on fox (Temptation Island). However, The Family Guy, Futurama, and The Simpson's all are shows that require some sort of intelligence (and attention span) if you want to catch all of the jokes. In any of these shows, if you laugh for more than 5 seconds you're probably going to miss an obscure joke. For instance, take the "All you're base are belong to us," in Futurama in this past week's episode.

    15. Re:Dang by LafinJack · · Score: 1

      Boston Public, too. Bam!

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    16. Re:Dang by Shadarr · · Score: 1
      >Family Guy,
      >THE BEST FUCKING SHOW EVER

      Thank you, I was starting to think there was something wrong with the Slashdot crowd, describing it as "good". I can only remeber watching one episode where I didn't laugh so hard it hurt.

  11. The Simpsons? by sterno · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Any idea what the history of the Simpsons ratings were? I'm just wondering if back in the day they were as quick to axe as they are now.

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    1. Re:The Simpsons? by Uberminky · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't know the history of the Simpsons ratings. I did enjoy the couple of episodes of The Tick I saw. But one thing I do know: The Tick is no Simpsons. It just doesn't have the depth to be comparable, IMO.

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    2. Re:The Simpsons? by sterno · · Score: 1

      Agreed, but in the history of television, how many shows really have the success that the simpsons did. I think the Tick was a fun show and I think it was worth a few more seasons. Then again, I'm not a TV exec :)

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    3. Re:The Simpsons? by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1

      how many shows really have the success that the simpsons did

      Try Simpsons DOOOOOO

      they are still running new seasons man.......the last simpsons episode is going to be a real lost to an entire generation of people....I grew up with them....I still remember the first season and how it was such a scandal for Bart to say "Eat My Shorts man" ahhh....how inocent we were in the late 80s :-)

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    4. Re:The Simpsons? by Cowculator · · Score: 1

      The Simpsons didn't have its own ratings in the very beginning. IIRC, it debuted as part of the Tracy Ullman Show, so Fox probably knew that it would be safe to give it half an hour of prime time based on previous experience. The Tick didn't have that advantage...

    5. Re:The Simpsons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Simpsons was a runaway hit from the very beginning, it only took a handful of episodes for it to catch on. Plus, Fox was only in its second or third season as a network at the time, even a moderate hit would have been a pretty big deal to them at the time, and The Simpsons was much more than that. It's quite possibly the only reason Fox still exists as a network today.

      The commentary on The Simpsons season 1 DVDs explains some of that history, especially how ripoffs of simpsons merchandise started appearing even before the end of the first season.

      And I gotta say, I saw The Tick's pilot a long time before the series actually debuted, and loved it. But aside from the pilot, the show itself has been a big letdown. Though I held out hope it would get better, I'm not at all surprised it's being cancelled. It just wasn't that funny. Maybe someone'll give Mr. Edlund another cartoon instead. Whether it was the Tick or something else, I'd watch it.

    6. Re:The Simpsons? by enol · · Score: 1

      I remember when the Simpsons first came out and there was a huge controversy on how it was really bad for kids and attacks family values. That controversy alone would've brought viewers to watch it, even if it's just to see what the fuss was about. Not too different from South Park's start.

      Except Simpsons is STILL running...which tells a lot about its writers. They're terrific.

    7. Re:The Simpsons? by G-Man · · Score: 2

      As I recall, The Simpsons had a "running start" since it began as short segments on the Tracy Ullman Show. I forget exactly when it was spun off, but it's interesting that it so outlived the show where it started. Are the segments from the Tracy Ullman Show on the Season 1 DVD? That would be mighty cool.

    8. Re:The Simpsons? by Peyna · · Score: 1
      I haven't gotten through all 3 dvds yet, but I didn't see any mention of the Tracy Ullman shorts anywhere. I do remember watching them though. The commentaries are very interesting and informative though.

      You also notice some very interesting things that changed real quick. Like Smither's skin color changing after 1 episode =]

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    9. Re:The Simpsons? by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      The Simpsons was opposite ratings powerhouse Bill Cosby for its first 4 seasons, and came in second consistently, occasionally squeaking to first. For Fox, this was a huge success.

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    10. Re:The Simpsons? by Otter · · Score: 1
      I forget exactly when it was spun off, but it's interesting that it so outlived the show where it started.

      Well, that shows you how much of a "running start" The Simpsons had. My recollection is that Tracey Ullman (I think that's the spelling) never caught on, and The Simpsons was simply a word-of-mouth hit from almost the first episode. (Bart cheats his way into the gifted class, wasn't it?) If anything, the biggest boost it got was from Married With Children, which was on later on Sunday.

      Between them was "Good Grief", where Howie Mandel played a funeral home owner. ;-)

    11. Re:The Simpsons? by Colin+Bayer · · Score: 1

      (Bart cheats his way into the gifted class, wasn't it?)

      IIRC, the first episode was the Simpsons Christmas Special (the one where Homer is the mall Santa and they get Santa's Little Helper). I'd check SNPP, but I'm lazy that way.

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    12. Re:The Simpsons? by fat_mike · · Score: 1

      Could someone please tell me how to access the commentary on my Simpson's dvd. They only one I can find is under special features on the last disc. The packaging says all the episodes have it, but I'm an idiot and can't figure it out.

      matt@mail.ltlb.com

    13. Re:The Simpsons? by displaytest · · Score: 1

      Actually I think Tracey Ullman ran for 3-4 seasons on Fox late on Sunday (and I have some memory of it being an occasional series on HBO before that) so it must have had a little bit of staying power.

      And my memory is of the Simpsons is that they ran on Thursday at 8, against they still-strong Cosby show for their first few seasons. The fact that they did OK there, along with the success of MwC kept the Fox network alive.

    14. Re:The Simpsons? by gpinzone · · Score: 1

      Conventional?! Hell no. They were revolutionary. No one thought of putting a cartoon in a prime time slot since the Flintstones with "adult" themes and jokes. Yeah sure, those episodes seem tame now, but back then it was groundbreaking stuff. I can still remember the controversy over the Bart Simpson "Underachiever and proud of it" t-shirts.

    15. Re:The Simpsons? by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 1

      You also notice some very interesting things that changed real quick. Like Smither's skin color changing after 1 episode =]

      Actually, that was a colouring mistake. If you read the episode capsule for Homer's Odyssey at snpp.com, you'll find:

      By now, most people have noticed that Smithers
      is black in this episode. According to David
      Silverman, Gyorgi Peluci, the person who did
      the color styling randomly decided the
      ethnicity of various characters, which usually
      wasn't much of a a problem, but it sort of
      ruined the ``white sycophant'' persona for
      Smithers. Budget constraints precluded
      recoloring, so they left it the way it was. If
      it really bothers you, just imagine that he has
      a ``Caribbean suntan.''

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  12. Maybe not so bad news by MaufTarkie · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Maybe Ben can finally get his Tick movie bankrolled. I believe he's got a script ready, and now he has the actors (if they're willing to be on the big screen).

    I think it could work. It won't be a huge success, but it'll definitely have a cult following.

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    1. Re:Maybe not so bad news by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 1

      That's not a bad idea if he can get the cash. I love the show, especially Batmanuel, and am a long-time fan of the original comic series ("I'm a bush, move along...") and the Saturday cartoons I leech off of >. For the actors it's a no brainer - reprise their role on the big screen? You bet.

      I'm not sure what studio would throw money at it, but hell - maybe Comedy Central will buy the rights or something. Spot near South Park, maybe?

  13. Comedy Central? by Crackerman111 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I wonder if Comedy Central would have any interest in picking the series up. I think the demographics of Comedy Central would be a perfect fit for the show. Oh well, that's just wishful thinking. It was fun to watch while it lasted.

    1. Re:Comedy Central? by MagikSlinger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's certainly in their price range. How much did they spend on production values? $1.98?

      Without the epic grandeur that was the Tick comic book and animated series, the live-action series became smaller than life, becoming more of an ironic statement than a big, steaming cup o' hommage to the glorious yesteryear of comic book superheroes!

      Ahem, but I degress. Where were the villains? The villains with villany so insane they could be called mad! Where was Charles, the evil brain-child? Where was Chairface Chippendale? Without these larger than life adventures for the Tick to rail against with his child-like enthusiasm for Justice, I just don't see the point. I mean, where's that call to the Heroe's Quest, chum? Where's the kind of adventure that makes you want to cry, "SPOOOOON!!!"

      Ahem. Sorry, I don't know what came over me. I haven't been the same since I found moth suite at a garage sale the other day.

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    2. Re:Comedy Central? by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1, Interesting

      what they need to do is take it to HBO......then you can get realy rounchy and real....I have always thought that all of TV should be like HBO...then you can have the good real life stuff like "OZ" and "the Sapranos" and "sex in the city" and "six feet under" and "the mind of the married man" and "curb your enthusiasm" and "dream on", and "the larry sanders show"......and....."the Rounchy Tick"!!!

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    3. Re:Comedy Central? by TotallyUseless · · Score: 1

      and mr show with bob and david, which no longer airs nightly on hbo comedy. that was one of the funniest shows I had ever seen. I miss watching them at 10 each night. hbo programming bastards!

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    4. Re:Comedy Central? by WickywiK · · Score: 1

      As a fan of the animated show, I was really disappointed in a lame made-for-tv-series they came out with. It might not have had a great time to view, but hey, it wasn't that good to begin with (too bad).

  14. Advertising by alexmogil · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How is it possible that we saw SO much advertising for this show during the World Series (A secret message.... from my TEETH!), but I never saw commercial one for the show while it was on the air?Honestly if they would have advertised it a *little* more, perhaps I could tell you what time the show was on. Heck, I don't even know what day it was on. Just like Family Guy.Yet, I am pretty sure we're all sick of 'A Very Special Boston Public' and 'That Goddamned 80's Show' commercials.

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    1. Re:Advertising by stickb0y · · Score: 1
      Heck, I don't even know what day it was on. Just like Family Guy.

      It was on right after Family Guy. (Thursday nights, 8 PM.)

      Is it that hard to go to TV Guide's listings and do a search?

    2. Re:Advertising by Luyseyal · · Score: 2

      Amen.
      -l

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    3. Re:Advertising by Steveftoth · · Score: 2

      Did anyone else think that 2 hours of new family guy all at once was weird last night? I lost it during that 4th episode. I just lost intrest. Does this mean they are dumping the Family guy?

    4. Re:Advertising by ChodaBoy · · Score: 1

      Uh, actually, not one of those Family Guy episodes were new. It was two hours of reruns.

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    5. Re:Advertising by renderhead · · Score: 1

      That's not the point, my friend. The problem with a lack of advertising wasn't so much that people who wanted to see the show couldn't find out when it was on. The problem was that people stopped thinking about the show when they stopped advertising it. That's poison to a television series, since the show wasn't generating enough buzz on its own. To be successful, a prime-time series must be thought about more than its competition, and Fox wasn't even trying once the series actually premiered.

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    6. Re:Advertising by analog_line · · Score: 1

      See also, the Clerks animated series debacle, which was promoted to hell and back to during the Super Bowl, but was pulled after three episodes aired.

      TV's messed up that way.

  15. Frontline by MTNhike · · Score: 1, Funny

    The Tick is gone?!?!?

    I bet its because PBS put Frontline against it!

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  16. Live Action Tick by skroz · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...was cool, though the time slot was awful. What I REALLY want to see is a live action Johnny Bravo.

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    1. Re:Live Action Tick by Fesh · · Score: 2

      I dunno... I saw one episode, and kept thinking, "But... He doesn't have the googly white eyes! It just doesn't look right!"

      As for live-action Johnny Bravo... Why do I get the feeling that parts of it would look like a Tool video?

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    2. Re:Live Action Tick by sdo1 · · Score: 1
      Live Action Tick was cool, though the time slot was awful

      You know, it's funny what TiVo does to viewing habits. Since getting one, I haven't given the slightest thought to what time slot a program is in. And to be honest, though I've watched every episode of The Tick since it's been on, I don't have the slightest idea when it's on... or even what day.

      Anyway, I'm sad to see it go... I thought it was one of the funniest shows on television.

      -S

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    3. Re:Live Action Tick by Strange_Attractor · · Score: 1

      >>just taking a while to hit its pace I'm sure that was another nail in its coffin. I found the Tick via the cartoon series, and just fscking love it. I had a hard time adjusting to the live-action version, but I found it funnier and funnier with time (especially Nestor Carbonell's Batmanuel). So, factor in the time slot, the Seinfeld curse, the cheapo budget, the Fox overkill-then-silence "promotion" policy, and twenty other factors listed elsewhere in this discussion - well, I'm disappointed but not surprised.

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  17. The cartoon rules by baptiste · · Score: 2

    I never thought the current show was all that great. The cartoon had a twisted bent to it that was enjoyable from time to time. Course, I never watch cartoons - its for the kids, yeah - that's it. he kids.

    1. Re:The cartoon rules by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 2, Interesting

      do they have the tick cartoon on DVD? I would love to have the entire what....3 or 4 seasons...I think it was on that long.

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    2. Re:The cartoon rules by greenfly · · Score: 2

      There were three seasons, and you can find all the episodes on your favorite fileshare app in divx form.

  18. Oh well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It is too bad for the people involved, but I vastly prefer the cartoon. I only watched the pilot of the live action series. I think that cartoons are very difficult to bring to life, and the Tick is such an over-the-top character that it shouldn't even have been attempted. Loved Batmanuel though.

  19. Sigh... by Enry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Having gotten started with the cartoon, then buying a bunch of comics on EBay, the TV show seems to be more of the comic-book-style Tick, which was pretty good. Too bad they didn't bring in Samuri Paul(? it's been a while..) or the ninjas. That would have been a great episode.

    "Jeez. I thought Ninjas just got sucked up into jet engines.."

    Given Fox's recent fare of programming, I didn't expect it to last. The only thing left is the Simpsons, since I can only get the last 15 minutes of Futurama because football runs over. C'mon guys, if the game goes too long EVERY WEEK, don't you think you can schedule around it?

    1. Re:Sigh... by dieman · · Score: 1

      Thats why you tell tivo to either record the show after, or tell it to record 15 or 30 minutes later before stopping.

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    2. Re:Sigh... by shanek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The thing that pisses me off about it was that last week it didn't run over; the game stopped right at 7:00, but those idiots kept talking for 20 minutes. Guys, when you run over your time, shut the frell up!!!!

    3. Re:Sigh... by Enry · · Score: 2

      That wouldn't work, as Fox starts the show "already in progress", meaning that the first 15 minutes is never shown. *grumble*

  20. Typical Network Antics by Afrosheen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Come on, you all saw it coming. The Tick was never gonna succeed with all the crap the Fox nimrods edited into it. I remember when the creator of the Tick was interviewed about the live action show...he said alot of the stupid dialogue wasn't his idea and he seemed kinda pissed that some knucklehead edited it to be that way.

    Networks are great at shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to innovation. Remember the Clerks animated cartoon? It only lived long enough to spawn 6 episodes but was hilarious and had the trademark Clerks humor out the wazzoo. The episodes built the plot successively, so if you didn't see episode one before 2 you could be slightly lost.

    Guess what. NBC (or was it CBS) aired the 4th episode as the pilot! People were lost and wondering what the hell was going on when they saw it. After 4 was 5 and 6 but that was it. It got canned. I suggest everyone go grab it on DVD. A true jewel.

    1. Re:Typical Network Antics by NeuroManson · · Score: 2

      "Guess what. NBC (or was it CBS) aired the 4th episode as the pilot! People were lost and wondering what the hell was going on when they saw it."

      Worse, it was ABC (Disney)...

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    2. Re:Typical Network Antics by Life+Blood · · Score: 2

      Actually Clerks was cancelled before it ever aired. Thats why there were only 6 eps, they were contractually obligated to make at least 6 so they made the minimum and then aired it during the summer in obscurity. Crusade faced a similar fate on TNT. JMS refused to make it the bikini sci-fi adventure and so it got cancelled before a single episode aired. Its network politics.

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    3. Re:Typical Network Antics by limber · · Score: 1

      "Guess what. NBC aired the 4th episode as the pilot! People were lost and wondering what the hell was going on..."

      A very similar thing happened with Gilligan's Island. The first episode ("Two on a Raft") was actually a pastiche of several shows, and included only a chunk of the actual pilot show that was shot. Sherwood Schwartz maintained that the first episode was meant to be the 2nd, and had enormous fights with CBS over this prior to the initial airing. And in fact, you don't see the bulk of the pilot show until episode 12 (the Christmas episode "Birds Gotta Fly, Fish Gotta Talk"). (it's the part where they are remembering how grateful they weren't all killed in the wreck). The result is that episode 1 is pretty awful and strained, even for Gilligan's Island.

      Luckily (or unluckily, depending on your critical opinion of the show), Gilligan's Island had a very catchy expository theme song/explanatory opening credit sequence. Ah, whatever happened to sing-along theme songs... The other major point was that it never dropped out of the Top 40 shows.

    4. Re:Typical Network Antics by RoninM · · Score: 2
      Ah, whatever happened to sing-along theme songs...

      What? You don't watch Enterprise?

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    5. Re:Typical Network Antics by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      Many episodes of Gilligan were shot by Jack Arnold, director of "Creature From The Black Lagoon," "This Island Earth," and "Incredible Shrinking Man."

      Ah, whatever happened to sing-along theme songs...

      Many anime series have very singable themes, if you can sing in Japanese. I occasionally extemporize in English to them.

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    6. Re:Typical Network Antics by marcsherman · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? Enterprise has no theme song. There's no music what-so-ever at the start of that show. It just starts straight into the show. Really, it does.

    7. Re:Typical Network Antics by Strange_Attractor · · Score: 1

      Yes, Enterprise uses a "cold opening" - just like every one of the Star Trek series. Unless you think the episodes are 90 seconds long, though, you'll notice there's a theme song after that (before the commercials and the main body of the show). Enterprise's theme song includes vocals. Welcome to the actual conversation.

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    8. Re:Typical Network Antics by marcsherman · · Score: 1

      You appear to have missed my point. Enterprise has _no_ theme music. You can't make me admit that Enterprise has theme music, no matter how hard you try.

      Please have some respect for my state of denial.

  21. Potential wasted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It was a good idea. I even thought the casting was appropriate. The first episode was nothing short of unbelievably hilarious. However, every episode to follow was not so funny. They had the potential to introduce new and hilarious "Superheros" every episode or so, instead of focusing on Bat Maneul and Captain Liberty. I would have loved to see the Swiss Army!

  22. The Seinfeld Curse! by lostchicken · · Score: 5, Funny

    It strikes again!

    For those who don't know, Patrick Warburton (The Tick) had a part on Seinfeld as David Puddy.

    Like all the ex-Seinfeld cast members before him, Warburton's show seemed doomed from the start. This makes the 3rd flop.

    Hmm. I wonder if Julia Louis-Dreyfus' show will be cancelled before it starts. Good luck.

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    1. Re:The Seinfeld Curse! by hilker · · Score: 1
      Like all the ex-Seinfeld cast members before him, Warburton's show seemed doomed from the start. This makes the 3rd flop.
      How do you account for Jerry Stiller's success on The King of Queens, then?
    2. Re:The Seinfeld Curse! by lunatik17 · · Score: 1

      Jerry Stiller has been a success since long before Seinfeld.

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    3. Re:The Seinfeld Curse! by Ghettoceleb · · Score: 1

      I think they have to be the main character for the curse to apply.

    4. Re:The Seinfeld Curse! by Eccles · · Score: 1

      Hmm. I wonder if Julia Louis-Dreyfus' show will be cancelled before it starts.

      During a stand-up performance, Jerry Seinfeld said that they might work together again if their individual efforts flop, and Michael and Jason already had theirs, so...

      I for one shall miss the Tick, I was starting to like the cut of that man's jibberish. Are DivXs available online somewhere?

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    5. Re:The Seinfeld Curse! by JWhiton · · Score: 2

      Well, I don't know if he's the kiss of death for any new show. He (Warburton) has been on Family Guy for a few seasons. He's the voice of Peter's disabled neighbor, whose name escapes me at the moment. Joe?

  23. I Enjoyed It! by Ashcrow · · Score: 1

    I really liked the TV show. I am in the 'college crowd' so I like dry ramen as well. I think that if it got a better time slot, a little more money put into it and some advertisements it would have taken off. This kind of reminds me of Brisco Country Jr. Wasn't around for very long but people did like it.

  24. The world simply wasn't ready for The Tick by foxtrot · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, surely, our beloved City is unprepared for gigantic blue justice striding upon the rooftops of their daily lives. The forces of truth and justice fall silent this day, but they shall rise again like the head to the top of a cold one, if you know what I mean, chum. Yes, evildoers and television programming execs, you have won this round, but as sure as the sun will rise over the dark jungles of Tibet, your day in that sun will be over, and then you shall again face... The Tick.

    1. Re:The world simply wasn't ready for The Tick by guisar · · Score: 1

      Beautiful. You should have been a writer for the show. I'm not being sarcastic :)

    2. Re:The world simply wasn't ready for The Tick by dangermouse · · Score: 1
      TV is dead

      Holy shit, that's a great t-shirt idea! Mind if I add it to my list of T-Shirt Ideas That May or May Not Come to Fruition, and May or May Not Profit Me in Some Way?

      (I'd be happy to include an attribution)

  25. anyone know where... by night_flyer · · Score: 1, Redundant

    someone could find the episodes to download?

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  26. Maybe if it'd been on by Octal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe if they had actually showed episodes, instead of pre-empting it with other crap, it'd have worked better. Or they could've started showing the episodes at the start of the season, when people haven't figured out viewing schedules yet.

  27. It wasn't the worst show of the fall season by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Here's a list of the Top 64 Shows That Didn't Make The Fall Season that's sure to brighten the day of even the most devout fan of 'The Tick'

    Rick

    1. Re:It wasn't the worst show of the fall season by PeeOnYou2 · · Score: 1

      That list is hilarious... "Everybody loves Osama" hahaha.. there are some really good ones on there..

  28. Won't be missed ... by ez76 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The series was pretty lyme if you ask me.

    1. Re:Won't be missed ... by Fesh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shhhhhh! There are some pretty devoted fans hanging around here... You might tick someone off!

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    2. Re:Won't be missed ... by strredwolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think if it continued to use the animated format instead of the live-action format, it would of gained more viewers. Some things aren't cut out for live-action. Tick was one of them -- it was good, very good, as an animated show.

      Other shows that should of been better off animated:
      Power Rangers (all series)
      Most(if not all) live-action shows comming from Saban Enterntainment (usually on Fox).

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    3. Re:Won't be missed ... by gspeare · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's too late...those blood-sucking network execs just didn't know a good thing when they latched onto--er, saw one. Thus, a show that was deer to our hearts passes on.

  29. Well, one less Tick for me to be confused with... by Tickenest · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seriously, though, I think the two biggest problems were 1) flimsy plots (i.e. crimefighters not really fighting much crime and 2) FOX.

    It is unfair to say things like, "How did the Simpsons do in its first season?" as I've seen a few people do, since the series, as everybody knows, spawned from the Christmas special, which came from the Tracy Ulmann show short pieces, so it had at least a little exposure before its first true season. Also, the expectations of new shows are different now than they were in the late 1980s. It used to be that networks would be willing to give shows more of a chance to build a fan base. Nowadays, if a show isn't a serious hit by midseason, it gets swept away. Sad, but true.

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  30. It was great by Ariven · · Score: 1

    I loved the episodes I could see.. but since the local fox affiliate couldn't seem to play the show, its no wonder they are canceling it...

  31. yet they can play 4 episodes of... by night_flyer · · Score: 2

    Family Guy Back to Back... wasnt the Tick supposed to be on Thursdays?

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    1. Re:yet they can play 4 episodes of... by dimator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Surely you're not speaking ill of Family Guy? In my book, that's the most ridiculously funny show on TV today. It does have a certain style that you just have to dig in order to like the show, though.

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  32. Speaking of Good Shows being Cancelled by Cyberllama · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Did September 11th kill "That's my Bush"? If so, then Osama bin Laden better watch his back. . .

    1. Re:Speaking of Good Shows being Cancelled by RAVasquez · · Score: 1

      It had already been cancelled. The show had gotten staggeringly expensive for basic cable. Pity, but at least Matt and Trey can work on the "That's My Bush!" movie. Assuming 9/11 hasn't killed that.

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  33. hmm... by iamdrscience · · Score: 1

    I never watched a full episode of it and I was never really a huge fan of the tick cartoon or comic, but it kind of seemed to me like it was a bad gimmick, if fox wanted to bring back the tick they should bring it back as the cartoon series. The only reason for making it live action I see besides "hey! it's a cartoon but with REAL PEOPLE!!!" is that animated series cost more money. Either way I don't like fox.

    Gimmick? Evil.
    Cheap? Evil.

    by the way, I can sit through the first season of the simpsons and I did this christmas with my brother because he brought home the DVD set. Not only did I watch them but I watched them with commentary as well.

    The Simpsons analogy doesn't go well because it was popular when it came out. I mean they were made into a series because the Tracy Ullman shorts were popular (even though those, for the most part, are REALLY lame). The reason why the first season simpsons seem kind of lame now is just because it's a totally different time now. I mean, the first season was 12 years ago, can you think of many things from 1990 that don't seem a little lamer now than they did then?

  34. Nigh InVULnerable by Audent · · Score: 1

    dammit, you're all right.

    glad I didn't carve THAT on the moon though...

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  35. Once again, the networks screw the show by bryan1945 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems that over and over again networks put good, or at least promising, shows in awful spots or against established leaders. Hello? Put a good show in a dead spot (Thursday at 8 maybe, c'mon Survivor?!), let it build up an audience, then move it to a stronger slot.

    Futurama at 7 on Sundays?! This show is as good, if not better than, the Simpsons, yet it flounders...

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    1. Re:Once again, the networks screw the show by guisar · · Score: 1

      Futurama with the Evil Clause? Come'on that was a classic. "I see, it's fear that brings up together"

    2. Re:Once again, the networks screw the show by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      I guess you mis-understood me: I meant that Futurama at 7pm on Sundays is a totally travesty. It would do so much better at almost any other time slot! Who the hell watches TV at 7pm on Sunday (much less 7pm anyday?!)?

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    3. Re:Once again, the networks screw the show by PrestoChango · · Score: 1

      let it build up an audience, then move it to a stronger slot.

      You're absolutely right. I go to Caltech, and the House (dorm) I live in loves the Simpsons. When FOX moved the Simpsons from 6:30 to 6:00 we moved our dinner time to allow us to still watch it.

      You need to stick shows in timeslots during which people channel surf. Once it builds up an audience, THEN pit it against established shows.

    4. Re:Once again, the networks screw the show by joeberk · · Score: 1

      Putting "The Tick" on Thursday nights absolutely killed the show. It would have done far better if it had been put on Sunday nights, or even Tuesday nights, with an established show to help it finds its legs.

      I recall a radio interview where Patrick Warburton talked about how the folks on the show had been told the show would be on Sundays all along... then the show was moved to Thursdays. His tone seemed to indicate that he didn't think much of the move.

      As much as I'd like to see Comedy Central pick up the show, I'm not sure they can really afford a sitcom.

      Now I just wish I'd taped all the episodes. Anyone have them on tape, or VCD?

  36. Of course by hexix · · Score: 2

    I think anyone who didn't see this coming was fooling themselves simply because they liked the cartoon.

    The live action show was not funny at all. The closest I got to a chuckle was when they did a closeup on his face and the antennas would wiggle depending on his emotion. But then that just got creepy.

    Now if someone told me they were going to cancel The Family Guy, then I'd be shocked and start talking about bad time slots. But in The Tick's case, it just wasn't funny, sorry.

    1. Re:Of course by Optikal · · Score: 1

      They did practically cancel The Family Guy. There was a time when it was either off the air or just in some obscure timeslot that went unspoken. Of course, I did have the opportunity to bitch about it while I was a Neilsen Family surveyor for a week.

  37. And who's suprised? by TheQuantumShift · · Score: 1

    I never saw this show lasting long at all. I did see a few episodes, mainly because nothing else was on, and I had liked the cartoon. But this show looked like a loser from the start, and now it's confirmed. People have raised the point of lack of advertising, but I think that's not it. I personally am sick of all the advertising fox does for it's programming. "Coming in six months" over and over for six months really makes me more inclined to flip it over to PBS when the damn show actually airs. Fox has it's few good shows but like all good things, they must continue for at least ten years. Or so Fox thinks. Like married with childeren was any good after they bumped off Steve, and started all that inane hooting and hollering. And I hate to admit it, but the Simpsons is getting less funny with each episode. I think if Fox stopped with the 6 or so months of hype before a show starts, they might actually get a better response. The Family guy seriously needs to go though. Christ, I can feel my IQ drop while watching it. Less effort in the family guy, and more for Futurama. Every few months I see an ad for "An all new Futurama" and I always think the same thing, Jesus, wasn't that cancelled last year? And for the LOVE OF GOD! stop with the X-Files!!!

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  38. If you don't want to see it canceled.... by Hyperkinetic · · Score: 1

    Write a nice letter to Fox and the sponsors telling them you don't want to see it canceled. It only takes a few positive responses to get them to turn it around.

  39. Save it by dkh · · Score: 1
    I loved the animated show. Never caught the live action show, not sure I even cared for the concept.

    However, you can always try to save that show.

  40. Invader Zim by NickFusion · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On, of all places, Nickelodeon, has much the same twisted sensibility as The Tick cartoon (I love them both, truly I do.)

    Also the brainchild of a independent comic...uh...guy, the fellow who did Johnny the Homicidal Manic.

    Doom Dooom Doom Dooom Doom Dooom De Doom Dooom....

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    1. Re:Invader Zim by Optikal · · Score: 1

      The JTHM guy is Johnen Vasqez. Of course I don't have a copy in front of me, so I either hit it on the head or it's something similar. It's some oddball name like that.

  41. Can't Say I'm Surprised... by xonker · · Score: 1

    Fox really bungled the Tick. What I don't understand is why they'd spend the money on developing a quirky series like this, and then put it up against Friends. IMHO, the Tick would have been perfect right after the Simpsons, or in the (horrible) Bernie Mac time slot.

    I can't say that the episodes I watched were terribly impressive, but it had possibilities -- and Patrick Warburton did a great job as the Tick.

    I guess we won't be seeing a Tick movie any time soon... nuts. At least we still have the comic!

  42. Here's your answer! by Zico · · Score: 1

    I've heard that Julia sometimes breaks into song during the show. I give it three weeks. :)

    1. Re:Here's your answer! by lostchicken · · Score: 1

      Well, we do know how well she dances...
      Hope she avoids this.

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    2. Re:Here's your answer! by markhb · · Score: 2

      She used to sing on Saturday Night Live (which was about the only camera time she got on the show), and wasn't bad. THey had her doing mostly Gilbert-and-Sullivan parodies, IIRC.

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  43. link to an interview with Patrick Warburton by blonde+rser · · Score: 2, Informative

    here is an interview with the tick himself on npr's freshair. talks about the show among other things... interview is pre-cancelation however

  44. What can we do to reverse this? by ChrisCampbell47 · · Score: 1
    Consarn it!

    That show was just about the only thing worth watching -- I've been taping every episode to archive tape just in case this happened. I haven't done that since the early 90's Simpsons episodes.

    So, what can we do to try to reverse this decision? There are precedents for networks bringing back shows after a public outcry. Who do I write to? (politely, of course)

  45. It was obvious that nobody knew how to market it.. by jerkychew · · Score: 1

    I had a rip of the live action pilot (which ended up being the first episode) on my PC for over a year before the show actually made it to Fox. That alone should say that the TV executives didn't know what the hell to do with the show. Perhaps Comedy Central will be wise enough to purchase the rights and market the show the way it's supposed to be?

  46. So long Bat Manuel by gizmo_mathboy · · Score: 1

    Does this meen that Ben will lose the rights to use Bat Manuel, Captain Liberty, and any other characters specifice to the live action Tick? I would love to see more Tick (maybe picked up by USA, SciFi, Comedy Central) and I really kind of liked Bat Manuel. An interesting take on a Die Fledermaus (Euro-trash vs. Latin lover stereotypes).

    I guess this means that Family Guy is probably going down, too. Why else would I watch TV Thursday night other than The Family Guy and The Tick?

  47. Where the villains are by Exatron · · Score: 1

    None of the characters that first appeared in the cartoon were available in the live action version of the series because several different companies owned the rights to them and couldn't agree on licensing fees for using the characters. That is also why American Maid became Captain Liberty and Dir Fliedermaus became Batmanuel.

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    1. Re:Where the villains are by MagikSlinger · · Score: 2

      Oh, I know that. What I meant was why couldn't they create new villains who were larger than life. I mean, they could at least have done Tommy the Evil Boy Genius. The problem is they backed away from creating really epic villains to doing a Seinfeldesque sitcom about the main characters dealing with anemic villains that couldn't scare Police Chief O'Hara from the old Batman series.

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  48. Why not wait and see? by /ASCII · · Score: 1
    The first episode of The Tick will air this weekend in sweden. Or was it last weekend?


    Sad to see a TV-series cancelled before it even hits the international market. Wasn't that the story with Twin Peaks? It was a dud in the US so Lynch had to wrap it up prematurely, then it became a huge hit in europe, but it was already to late.


    My favorite prematurely cancelled TV-show was American Gothic, though. Man, that show rocked.

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    1. Re:Why not wait and see? by Amanset · · Score: 1

      They've shown at least three episodes in Sweden so far. The last one I saw was when Arthur told his Mother about beign a super-hero. I think it started before Christmas, but got postponed during the Christmas period.

  49. Re:Funny by aka-ed · · Score: 1

    That's because, when a network wants to kill a show for any of a number of reasons*, they place it in a bad slot, and it works. As you point out, it happens with considerable frequency. In this case, it's a Thursday at 9, and the competition is observably tough; CBS's Survivor and the remnants of the NBC Thursday night sitcom habit pounded into viewers by years of Seinfeld.

    * For example, series fostered by an outgoing regime, series that don't deliver a pre-conceived demographic, series that are produced out-of-house and the network has in-house capacity.

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  50. Re:Wow by Peyna · · Score: 1

    You know, there is a reason you can customize /. and everything so that you only see stories from the sections you want to. If you just want to read about Linux or whatever else, then go to your user preferences page and turn everything else off. It's not that hard to do.

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  51. Re:Well, one less Tick for me to be confused with. by roju · · Score: 1

    You just triggered a thought for me. Technically, the Tick had lots of exposure before this live-action one was aired. It was a cartoon years ago. [I know everyone knows it was a cartoon, but nobody seems to be counting that as previous exposure]

  52. Re:Well, one less Tick for me to be confused with. by Tickenest · · Score: 1

    Well, I meant that it wasn't exposed in this format (live-action). The Simpsons was always in an animated format.

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  53. Standard Network Male-ox-excrement by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 2
    I don't watch TV anymore (just DVDs & tapes), but the bogus time slot sounds like exactly what happened to The Single Guy when I was at college. It used to be a good show in a great slot--between Friends and Seinfeld. Then they moved it to its own night and ran it head-to-head with some show I don't recall anymore, but which was better. It was suicide, plain and simple: like sending out a poodle to fight a hippo. And there was no reason for it. The network had a guaranteed audience for an hour-and-a-half, and three good shows in each slot. But they killed that, for no reason I can discern. And a good show died for no good reason.

    That sort of nonsense is not, actually, why I don't watch TV. The simple fact of the matter is that television is finely crafted to be as appealing as possible. As such, it s deuced difficult not to be attracted to it. And if one's not careful, one might spend all one's time in front of the tube. So I play on the computer, which is slightly less bad, or read books, which is much better. More of the former than the latter, I'm afraid:-)

    1. Re:Standard Network Male-ox-excrement by LegendLength · · Score: 1
      And a good show died for no good reason.

      No, sorry. It died because it was a textbook sitcom.
  54. Re:Well, one less Tick for me to be confused with. by roju · · Score: 1

    Very true. On the other hand, neither the current incarnation of the tick, nor the Simpsons show started from nowhere. Both did exist in some form or other before becoming shows.

    Still, you're right in that success in a cartoon format !==> success in a live-action format.

  55. Time Slot by Dr.+Tom · · Score: 2

    Time slot? Who cares? I almost never watch a show "live" these days. Who has the time to schedule their lives around network broadcasts? I have two VCRs and they are both programmed to the hilt. (Why do VCRs only have 8 program slots? A salescritter I asked said "most people don't use them at all." He's probably right.) I watch shows when *I* want to. And I fast forward through the commercials. Phthbppppt!

    1. Re:Time Slot by IronChef · · Score: 3, Insightful


      I cannot believe no one has posted a "Get a Tivo" or "get a ReplayTV" note yet. So I'll do it.

      2 VCRs? Dude, get a Tivo or ReplayTV. Then it will take a month to wipe the smile off your face.

  56. Shoes of justice will one day kill the bug of evil by fireboy1919 · · Score: 2

    I await the day television executives aren't 40, and aren't appealing to 40 year olds.

    The day that business executives are mostly slashdot readers, and the "working man" watches cartoons. The day is coming, my friends. Cartoon network has "adult swim" now - with comics specifically for adults.
    It is only a matter of time. Quantum computing may or may not be a reality, but the Tick will rise again. And so will Shaft.

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  57. NOOOOOO! by nodrip · · Score: 1


    The Tick, Kicked Ass.
    I am.. Batmanuel!
    What a loss. sniff.

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  58. Tick was opposite Survivor!!! by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    So they decide to cancel it just as Survivor ends?

    I think that was drawing a lot of people away. Perhaps it will pick up a bit, but it sounds like it wouldn't be soon enough to save the show.

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  59. Ben Edlund's future projects by iantf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I went to hear Ben Edlund speak a few years ago, and after he had fielded a couple dozen questions about minutiae from Tick cartoon episodes, I asked "What are you working on besides The Tick?" And he smiled and said, "You know, I'm really glad you asked me that."

    So, while I'm sorry to see The Tick go, I got the impression that Ben's ready to move on. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing what's next. Ben, you made the world a little weirder - thanks.

  60. Re:Well, one less Tick for me to be confused with. by RoninM · · Score: 2

    Well, The Simpsons had better (read: some) exposure to its target audience (WRT timeslot. Tickheads followed it, but, obviously, the network wasn't in it for a few thousand hardcore fans). The transition from Saturday morning to Thursday night isn't exactly ideal, especially when spaced by a handful of years. I won't count the brief stint on Comedy Central, since being on cable in the wee hours of a Monday (what was it? 1am?) can't be considered exposure.

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  61. no big surprise there by mr.ska · · Score: 2
    As compared to the animated version, the live action Tick (the character, not the entire show) was positively flat, unrewarding, and generally a disappointment. Whether it was poorly cast, or just lacklustre writing, the Tick blew relative to his animated predecessor.

    So long, live action Tick. I hardly knew thee, and now I won't have to.

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  62. Re:I hope the family guy isn't affected by jonerik · · Score: 1

    I suspect that at this point "The Family Guy" is pretty much unkillable; just like Jerry Lee Lewis. Every time you start throwing dirt on its coffin it somehow manages to claw its way back to the surface.

  63. Only 2 were shown by Pope · · Score: 1

    ABC aired episode 4 first, then episode 2 (the flashback episode).

    I didn't care, really (about the order) : 4 stands on its own, and I thought the idea of having flashbacks to events that hadn't happened yet was fucking briliant! I assumed Kevin Smith was making fun of all the clip shows on TV, where everyone sits around and remembers all the wacky things they did before.

    It was only after I had bought the DVDs for a friend's birthday did
    I find out what the running order was supposed to be.

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  64. Wait for the movie by Pope · · Score: 1
    Bob and David have a movie coming out: Run Ronnie Run

    Those guys rule!

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  65. True dat! by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

    Yes, I watched the cartoon years ago and it was quite funny. But the show? Come on. Real men in cartoon outfits? Thats not funny. And saying childish things? Who were they fooling? There was that move like that which I enjoyed, but not a TV show...

  66. Fox's programming methods. by gpinzone · · Score: 1

    Fox needed to hold onto ANY show that was even mildly successful. Don't get me wrong, I loved "Married with Children," but any other network would have cancelled it when the Seven character was introduced. Fortunately, they rebounded and got past that rough spot.

    Fox shows were given the ability to get a cult following (like the X-Files) simply because Fox had little else of value to broadcast. Remember the Simpson's episode with Troy McClure displaying a diagram of Fox's weekly lineup: "Simpsons", "X-Files", and "???" all over the place?

    If a show can't "self-correct" itself and at least find a niche audience, fox will cancel them swiftly. The trick with Fox broadcasting is to find a hook and develop it quickly before you get shit-canned.

    BTW, this isn't a criticism of Fox broadcasting methods. If ST:TOS was on Fox instead of NBC, it would still be on the air.

    1. Re:Fox's programming methods. by Tukla · · Score: 1
      If ST:TOS was on Fox instead of NBC, it would still be on the air.

      And the women would be wearing even skimpier costumes.

  67. Drop FOX an Email by Kombat · · Score: 1

    For those of you truly dedicated to the show, you can drop FOX an email at askfox@foxinc.com. It'll only take a minute, and it might just make a difference. I've already sent mine. What have we got to lose?

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  68. First impressions by lostboy2 · · Score: 1

    I admit I only saw part of one episode of the live-action series; but, as a fan of the comic book and the cartoon, I was awfully disappointed in what I saw (it was that episode where the Immortal dies).

    I thought the pace or timing seemed off (although I did think that I could warm up to Warburton, eventually). And it seemed that they went for overused sight gags with the dead body too much (like those movies about the dead guy, Weekend at Bernies, I think it was called).

    Basically, as others have mentioned, it seemed like much of the wacky humor of the Tick was replaced with the formulaic humor (and plot) of the networks.

    I was also disappointed in Arthur, who looked and acted too much like Rick Moranis from the Ghostbusters. Plus, Arthur is supposed to be chubby -- he's the Pudgy-Voice-of-Reason! He seemed too scrawny in the live-action series to me.

    Granted, this is just the impression I got from seeing about half of an episode, but it didn't make me want to watch it again. I can only imagine what people who were not already fans thought.

    And while I was/am willing to give the series another chance, like other people have mentioned, I had no real idea what time it airs (aside from the Futurama-Simpsons-XFiles stretch, I don't watch much TV).

    Well, here's hoping that it gets picked up (and improved) by some other channel. Comedy Central seems like a good candidate -- I could do without that bowling show.

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  69. Married with Children by hawk · · Score: 2
    And the only reason that *it* was a success is that that woman (in Michigan?) raised a hullabo when someone said, "bra." The series was only meant for half a season, but people watched it because of the attention she gave it.


    Kind of like the topless donut shops that pop up in California: an incredibly stupid idea, but you're pretty much guaranteed that NOW will show up and protest, getting you press coverage, and the thing works for a few months (before succumbing to the "incredibly stupid idea" thing).


    hawk

  70. and the theaters by hawk · · Score: 2
    When I saw War of the Roses, it had a Simpsons short--which was the reason I didn't bother looking at the first couple of years of the series . . .


    hawk

  71. Alot of you are forgetting by Damon+C.+Richardson · · Score: 1

    Forgetting that the show sucked.

    and that idiot that played the tick should have his acting licence taken away.

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  72. Live Action Family Guy by Mad+Man · · Score: 1

    Rumor has it that "The Tick" is going to be replaced with a live-action version of "Family Guy."

    It must be true because it was on the internet.

    1. Re:Live Action Family Guy by mblumber · · Score: 1

      Did you see the FOX "let's preempt the entire primetime lineup and show family guy" thing last night. That was entertaining.

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  73. Fare thee well, Batmanuel, we barely knew you by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    Can't we start a petition?
    Get the fox site slashdotted intentionally ;-)
    Flood 'em with emails requesting, nay, DEMANDING that the tick be put on right after Futurama, and that they divulged the top secret time slot of futurama while they're at it?

    You know a show is about to die when they change its time slot around everyweek until NO ONE knows when its on.
    I'm convinced its some stupid internal rivalry between execs...killing one guy's show because he drank the last cup of punch at the xmas party and whatnot.

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  74. "That's my Bush" by SpacePunk · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a show for the Playboy channel.

  75. It was good, but was missing something by Mean_Nishka · · Score: 1

    The tick was alright.. But it was missing something. It focused too much on their individual trials and tribulations than destroying evil villains. While probably good for hard core tick fans, 'the general public' probably wasn't impressed.

  76. Ratings - only slightly behind Enterprise.. by jbuilder · · Score: 1

    This is crap! Take a look at the ratings as compared to other SciFi shows:

    The X-Files 6.2
    Smallville 3.9
    Dark Angel 3.3
    Enterprise 2.8
    Charmed 2.8
    The Tick 2.5
    Buffy 2.5
    Angel 2.5
    Special Unit 2 1.8
    Roswell 1.4

    The Tick is only slightly behind shows like Enterprise. And that tripe roswell is STILL on the air.

    This is totally lame and totally sucks. The Tick ROX and Fox should have done more for it than a handful of episodes...

    First the Lone Gunmen and now this. What a bunch of puds.

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    1. Re:Ratings - only slightly behind Enterprise.. by buckeyeguy · · Score: 1

      Its an eye-opener when you look at the numbers instead of the hype, or non-hype... but when looking at ratings remember that for a long time, some of the highest rated American TV shows had been original episodes of the 'Beverly Hillbillies'...

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  77. Cursed! by crumbz · · Score: 1

    The Tick suffered from the Seinfeld curse. See Cosmo, George and soon to be Elaine's show.

  78. Timeslots by _aa_ · · Score: 2

    I disagree that the timeslot had anything to do with the demise of the show. Timeslots become popular because of the shows, not the other way around. NBC has 0wn3d Thursday evenings ever since the cosby show, but before the cosby show it was fair game. After that, they put their best crap their to maintain their thursday night audience. Of course now they are losing to survivor but that is besides the point. Thursday night is the biggest TV night for no reason other than the popularity of the cosby show. My basic point being that, aside from like the 2am-7am time slots, the quality of the show dictates it's popularity far more than the timeslot.

    Furthermore, as TiVo and similar technology popularizes, hopefully the networks will realize that they can run more series in the 2am-7am timeslots, because suddenly timeslots are irrelevant because people will watch the show whenever they want to. It'd be nice if they would run entire seasons of the simpsons, etc. marathon style during the off hours for the convinience of tivo viewers.

  79. Why is this surprise? But there is hope... by koganuts · · Score: 1

    This is FOX... the same network that initially cancelled Family Guy, only to bring it back after they received a lot of letters. From what I recall, FOX didn't initially know they had a gem with Malcolm in the Middle either.

    Bottom line is, if enough snail-mail letters are sent to FOX (trust me on this, networks give snail-mail more weight than e-mails), there is a possibility that the show could be saved. It's worked in the past for the original Star Trek (thus its third season) as well as Roswell (thus its second season).

    In the case of Roswell, fans sent thousands of bottles of tabasco sauce to The WB as a show of support. With The Tick, perhaps fans can instead send... spoons?

  80. Other Stations by Brand+X · · Score: 2

    Generally agree about Fox. Simpsons has had ups and downs, but is in an up (and the downs were still better than friends) Futurama is great, Malcolm is Great, Family Guy is pretty good, if a little overboard, The Tick was shaping up quite well, 24 isn't perfect, but it's good... but it isn't a comedy, it's a drama, so... drama's are fair game? Then you slight NBC. They have the Law and Order franchise (and the original and SVU are actually really a damn sight better than 24, frankly) and some of the best miniseries on broadcast. West Wing, Crossing Jordan, and ER are too good to dismiss out of hand, especially if you're willing to put 24 on your list. I'm not all that impressed with CBS on Dramas. I mean, "The Agency"? But they had the wisdom to take the free agent CSI, which is really one of the five best dramas in broadcast and syndication right now, as far as I'm concerned. ABC is just plain bad, and UPN, well, I can't even watch Enterprise (and lest you peg me, I have cable entirely because I missed Farscape too much, in spite of my "who has time for TV" attitude.) I really don't watch anything but the first two Law and Order shows (but not CI), CSI, Farscape, Titus, The Tick, Futurama, 24, and Smallville (sorry, I don't know why, but I like it. Probably because of Michael Rosenbaum, who manages to do a weirdly believable road to hell character), and all of those I approach with a tape-it-and-catch-it-later attitude. I'm two months behind on some of them, and that's taking reruns into account. So my habits result in... NBC (2 hours), CBS (1 hour), Fox (2.5 hours), WB (1 hour), and SF (1 hour) Admittedly, my rare extras include Simpsons, Malcolm, and Family Guy. So Fox gets more than the rest. Followed by NBC. ABC gets none of my eyeball time.

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  81. Johnen Vasquez vs Ben Edlund by Brand+X · · Score: 2

    Now, I was a fan from the start when I first happened across issue number 3 of The Tick (in the hands of a friend who let me read it) and ended up buying the graphic novel as soon as it saw daylight. I love the humor of the comic, and found the show far more true than the cartoon.

    I've also never seen Invader Zim. Is that what happened to Vasquez after the second issue of "I Feel Sick!"? There was mention of a cartoon, but...

    But there is a world of difference between The Tick and JTHM. The first time I walked into my favorite indie-friendly comic shop (and I still patronize that sort even if it means going 40 minutes out of my way and spending a lot more than I would on subscriptions, because I value their existance, damnit!) and laid eyes on the grotesque and fascinating work that was Johnny, I was blown away. Twisted. Sick. Perverse. Strangely compelling. His world is the polar opposite of The Tick. With the same innocent disconnectedness, but nothing else in common, Johnny sees himself as artist and equalizer, striking out against the "righteous" and popular, the petty and mostly harmless bullies and bureaucrats of his world, sometimes with a spork. And while he terrifies poor Squee (see Squee's own title), he never considers harming the victim of the condescending, the contemptuous, the too-perfect. And somehow, you're never quite sure if Johnen himself is sane, or even safe.

    Now, a show (cartoon, of course) based on JTHM would be... frightening. It would never sell. But... the kid brother of a friend, who I had introduced to JTHM, actually contacted Johnen and got his permission to adapt a play from that same series... and managed to produce and run it at a rather uptight and proper elite high school. And it went over well. Remarkable...

    So, your thoughts... whither bound the properties of The Tick? Will we ever see another show, animated or otherwise? Perhaps a new patron could be found, one willing to give it a real chance?

    For now, I must actually record myself some episodes of this "Invader Zim"... it will be some consolation, at least.

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