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Review: Spiderman

I skipped out early this morning and went to see the first showing of Spiderman in my local theater. The Sam Raimi directed spiderman is the first of the summers blockbusters and stars Toby Maguire as the webslinger, Willem Dafoe as the Green Goblin and Kirsten Dunst and the lovely Mary Jane. And guess what? Its one of the best comic book movies I've ever seen. I loved it. And I'll try not to lone-gunman-are-dead the review, but if you're super paranoid, just skip out, go see the flick, and enjoy it. So I love spiderman. The wisecracking sarcasm. The realistic portrayal of a young man coming of age and juggling real world problems with the fantasticly unreal problems of being, well, a spiderman. I just love it. I love the comics. I loved the cartoons when I was a kid. And I went into this biased as hell: with Sam Raimi helming one of the classics, I had the highest hopes of any movie since Episode I. And this time around there was not a drop of disappointment.

First off lets talk about the cast. Toby Maguire was great in The Cider House Rules. He's just a solid actor. But I was seriously wary of him in the role of the webbed one. He seemed like a flimsy choice. He needed to pull off the one liners, but still convince us of his love for Mary Jane. But he pulls it off admirably. From the goofy glasses wearing scenes in the beginning to his badass battle scenes towards the end, its a solid showing. The best scenes in the whole movie are the ones where we see Peter Parker coming to grips with his new spider powers.

Now I'm gonna skip in a bit with a statement about staying true to comic books. Yes- some of the details have been changed from the books. Like most noticably, the nature of Spiderman's webbing. But whatever- this is story telling and it works for me.

Kirsten Dunst does a good job in what could have been a bland role in the hands of an actress who was just a pretty face. Mary Jane is convincing, and since she is in many ways the thing that grounds spiderman, its a tough burden. And the other biggie is of course the head of Oscorp, Mr. Norman Osborn, Willem Defoe. he does allright, but most of his maniacal scenes are covered by a mask that leaves him little room for any actual facial expressions.

So the plot: Boy loves girl. Boy gets bit by radioactive spider and develops super powers. Boys friend's dad inhales nano gas that makes him super powerful, and super crazy. Boy explores powers and eventually must save city from the attack of the newly crazed buddy's dad, all while dealing with the loss of his family. It's spiderman in a nutshell, and it's just damn solid.

The special effects are smooth. From the ads I was a little concerned since spiderman looked a little fake leaping around. But within the context of the movie it usually worked for me. They looked unnatural, but frankly seeing spiderman leap off inflatable balloon floats and swinging around flagpoles suspended by spiderwebs is already pretty unnatural so I let the suspension of disbelief win out on this one.

Danny Elfman hasn't sounded this good since Batman. I loved the score. It doesn't really feel original, but it sure fits like a glove.

In short, its a great movie. I won't comic-book-guy the details that were missed in the transition from paper to film, but I think they did a great job of making an entertaining movie, and staying extremely true to what I think Spiderman is all about. And goddamn it, the raw sense of excitement as he discovers his abilities is enough to make every guy wish he had those powers- swinging from building to building and howling like a mad freak. God I loved it. Congratulations to everyone involved- you win.

All that, and I even scored tickets to the 12:01 showing of star wars on opening day ;)

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  1. WTF?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Lone Gunmen are DEAD? Man, why did you have to give that away?!? Crap, I won't have to watch my TIVOed X-Files now...!

  2. Big fan by dirvish · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is great to see that such a big fan enjoyed the movie so much. I can't wait to see it. I am heading to the theatre for the 7:45 pm show. I wonder...if Spiderman is really good will it give Attack of the Clones a challenge this month? Star Wars is unquestionably huge but there are also a lot of Spiderman fans and a lot people that feel burned by Phantom Menace.

  3. Finally by First_In_Hell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Finally a review from someone who as actually "seen" the movie rather than a lot of the speculation going around. I think Taco is right on the money, this appeals to the guys that loved the comics . . . it is a dream come true.

  4. how about for non-comic viewers? by Misha · · Score: 3, Interesting

    so anyone familiar with the comic book will like it, but how about someone like me, who simply never read them? sure, flame me, but you could say i am from a different generation. still, is the movie good?

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    1. Re:how about for non-comic viewers? by Microsift · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your "different generation" argument would hold more weight if your sig didn't quote a Pink Floyd lyric

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    2. Re:how about for non-comic viewers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The comic book was kind of like a comic book for people who don't read comic books. I've never been a comic book fan, but I loved reading Spider-Man.

      Ironically, my wife is dying to see this movie, and she usually hates these movies. Even she's clued into the fact that the nature of this character is just a little bit different.

      Certainly casting Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst in this was smart -- geekheads may feel a little apprehensive, but if it can bring my wife into the theater it's going to bring a lot of other people who wouldn't ordinarily see a movie like this.

    3. Re:how about for non-comic viewers? by Flower · · Score: 2, Funny
      More like the generation that heard Mary Jane and thought doobie instead of Peter Parker's gf.

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    4. Re:how about for non-comic viewers? by nlh · · Score: 2

      I never read the comic book, and the extent of my Spider Man knowledge was that of conventional wisdom -- that he dug this redhead named Mary Jane and that he was bitten by a spider.

      The movie still rocked...:)

      nlh

    5. Re:how about for non-comic viewers? by Chris+Blaise · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Other way around.

      If you're NOT familiar with the character by reading the comic books, you'll probably like the movie.

      I'm not sure how anyone who has read the comic books can call this movie a good Spider-man movie. Maybe "Pete Parker, Spiderman", but it's definetely not the same character Stan Lee and Steve Ditko created back in the day.

    6. Re:how about for non-comic viewers? by nitehorse · · Score: 2

      Hey, you forgot the _most_ obvious one! jesus.

      Gwen Stacy

      In the movie, Mary Jane is the girl that gets kidnapped by the Green Goblin. Everyone who's ever read the comic book knows that the death of Gwen is one of the few things that haunts Peter throughout the rest of his days.

    7. Re:how about for non-comic viewers? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

      > Ok, here's how the movie is not like the Amazing Spider-man:

      >{ snip }

      Nice summary.

      In the comics Peter Parker is always trying be friends with Liz, a high school classmate. In the movie it was Mary Jane, the next door neighor. The movie didn't have any mention of Betty Bryant either.

      In the comics, the Green Goblin has the flying wings the *2nd* time he meets up with Spider-Man (first time was his flying broomstick.) Also, the GG was MUCH smaller -- like "goblin" size. Difference the movie had: someone who wore a metal suit that was bigger then Spider-Man.

      It's interesting how the comic book would point out how most of the villians (And Spider-Man at times) used technology.
      i.e. Vulture uses anti-magneticism to fly, Spider-Man had "web cartridges", Spidey's beam of light that shows his face (ala Batman) etc.

      Even though the movie was quite different from the comics, I enjoyed it. I think they did a great job re-telling the story. I too liked the foreshadowing with the criminal who took the wrestlers promoter money.

      How long do we have to wait for the sequel ? ;-)

    8. Re:how about for non-comic viewers? by garett_spencley · · Score: 2

      I know I'm WAY too late for this argument. It's Sunday and I just got to see it Today.

      Anyway I do want to get in on this. My main critique with the movie wasn't that the character didn't fit the comic one, but that so much had apparently been cut. I felt like they took a 10 hour long movie and crammed it into a 2 hour one but cutting so much. And I think the reason the character didn't fit so much was because of that.

      Now I'll respond point by point:

      In comic, Peter Parker is a science "genius". He's really, really, smart..... He invents his webbing formula, the webshooters to use them, sensors that allows him to track people with his spider sense, and so forth.

      They tried. Harry's dad was constantly praising him for his science genius and Harry even made a comment about how he thought his dad wanted to adopt Peter and that his not such a bad guy if you're a science genius (like Peter was). I know they were really shallow but they tried. If they had more time they would have gotten this right.

      Family Ties. Aunt May and Uncle Ben were the only people in the world that loved him. They meant everything to him.

      In the movie Peter tells Uncle Ben to effectively get off his case because he (Ben) is not his dad.


      I still got that impression (that they were everything to him). I just think they were trying to add to the emotional impact that his death had on Peter by making their last confrontation a fight. This actually helps with the whole "bad day" argument that we'll talk about in a bit.

      Secret Identity. Peter is very careful to keep is alter-ego secret because he's afraid that knowlege would allow others to hurt those he loves.

      In the movie, he walks into the wrestling promoter's office unmasked. He fights Mary Jane's muggers without his mask. He has no obvious stress about others finding out about him.


      True but remember, at the end he ditches the girl he loves because he's afraid that he being Spider-Man will hurt her. The scene you talk about was rather fishy but he did put his mask on before she saw him and there was the whole Green Goblin attacking his loved ones that adds to the "no-one can know about this" thing.

      Constant Oppression. Peter Parker is the quinessential "sad sack". No matter how bad your day was, his was worse! He was constantly picked on at school, his uncle was killed, his aunt was frail and perpetually on death's door, they were constantly on the edge of being evicted, occasionally his film would be ruined and there's be no picture money from the Daily Bugle, the world hates him thanks to JJJ. He's constantly stressed out and you always feel sorry for him.

      In the movie his uncle dies. Other than that, Aunt May is spry and survives a bomb blast. Peter moves out to live in an apartment that he apparently is able to pay for (or Harry's dad pays for). He's not all that upset about not having a job. His only stress was due to the Green Goblin learning his secret identity and using his loved ones.


      They could have done better here but I still felt like his life sucked. His one true love was going out with his best friend. He was a complete nerd who was always picked on. His uncle died. He didn't have a father etc. Remember, the comics had years and years and years to feed you all this information. The movie only had 2 hours.

      Public Perception. Thanks to J. Jonah Jameson's rants and headlines in the Daily Bugle, most of the public is either afraid of Spider-man or hate him.

      In the movie New Yorkers rally behind him on the bridge as "one of our own".


      That was definitely present in the movie. The cop wanted to arrest him before he could run into the burning building. J. Jonah was putting the bad headlines out there and people started to fear him. Yes, in the end people were cheering him on but I think they wanted a semi-happy ending.

      With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility Lesson Peter lets the criminal that kills Uncle Ben go because after his stint of celebrity, he feels really cocky about his newfound power and fame.

      IMO he wasn't Spider-Man yet. He was still P.P. He didn't have the costume. That was his very first appearance as "Spider-Man" and he wasn't a vigil-anti. He was just trying to earn some cash. It was actually that event that changed his opinion and made him care. He let the guy go and as a result his uncle died. It was the big plot shifter.

      The ones I left out are yours. I can't come up with any argument for them. I don't know enough about Spider-Man. I read the comics when I was a kid and watched the cartoon but I was more of a Bat-Man guy myself.

      Still I felt like this was one of the best movies I've ever seen. Stan Lee definitely didn't sell us out like Lucas did.

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  5. A Truly Beautiful Description... by IronTek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And I'll try not to lone-gunman-are-dead the review

    That's got to be the phrase of the day somewhere! People on the boards were quite unhappy that Slashdot posted that (and as soon as it happened on the east coast, no less!)!

    To use it as a description for how much or how little will be given away in the review is truly, truly amazing! Caused me to laugh, anyway!

    1. Re:A Truly Beautiful Description... by T.Hobbes · · Score: 2

      It's referring to this collective hyperventilation on the part of the slashdot crowd.

  6. Spidey is why I learned to read by dscottj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about as Mary Jane? :)

    I grew up with Spiderman. He is the reason I learned to read, because a) the Electric Company featured him every day, b) my Mom wouldn't read comics to me, and c) my dad was always too busy to read them to me.

    Spidey also seemed to cross racial lines, IME. We all thought he was cool, no matter if we were asian, black, hispanic, or white. Spidey just rocked.

    AFAIK, he's also one of the few superheros to come close to killing Wolverine. How to actually kill Wolverine was the topic of many a cafeteria discussion when I was in college. :)

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    1. Re:Spidey is why I learned to read by namespan · · Score: 2

      Mom says I learned to read when she tape-recorded herself reading my favorite spiderman book. After reading and re-reading it as only obsessive children can, I could read.

      It's the content, not the medium.... : )

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    2. Re:Spidey is why I learned to read by CJ+Hooknose · · Score: 2
      How to actually kill Wolverine was the topic of many a cafeteria discussion when I was in college.

      In the "Wolverine" comic book, somewhere within the first 50 issues, they said basically that Wolverine could starve to death, dehydrate, die from lack of oxygen (~15 minutes without breathing) , and drown. No, I don't have exact issue references. Sorry.

      Spider-Man sounds like it could be good, but what i'm really waiting for is a good HBO miniseries adaptation of "Watchmen". That would completely rock, and probably make people think differently about "comic books can't be high art." </wishful_thinking>

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    3. Re:Spidey is why I learned to read by Issue9mm · · Score: 2

      Well, "Watchmen" is unfilmable, but if you have somewhat less stringent-standards, "Authority" would adapt almost perfectly to HBO, specifically the Mark Millar run (No, I'm not knocking Ellis).

      "Transmetropolitan" or "100 Bullets" would do spectacularly on HBO, as would "Preacher", but it's only recently that comic books have been able to do well again in movies. I think both of the bigger publishing houses (read: Marvel and DC) are still a bit sketchy on how to distribute things to the small screen. TWarner does an okay job with Smallville, but the WB is hardly an appropriate environment for any of the above-mentioned books, and frankly, I doubt that TWarner is going to put something like that out there that they can't control (excepting cartoons, of course).

      -9mm-

  7. Bruce Campbell by talon77 · · Score: 3, Funny

    No mention of Bruce Campbell's cameo roll? Thats the entire reason I've been excited about this movie for the past year..!

    1. Re:Bruce Campbell by cnelzie · · Score: 2

      I read that Bruce played the part of the ring announcer near the beginning of the film. I am so glad that they included that portion of Spider-Man's creation...

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    2. Re:Bruce Campbell by CleverNickName · · Score: 2

      I thought we were trying to not lone-gunmen-are-dead this review.

      Har.

  8. Spiderman in a nutshell by nob · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's spiderman in a nutshell, and it's just damn solid.

    I haven't seen this flick yet, but it sounds like it lives up to the book.

    Oh, wait...

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    1. Re:Spiderman in a nutshell by donglekey · · Score: 2

      Well played

  9. Re:It's Spider-Man. by athakur999 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Foxtrot beat you to it.

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  10. Re:It's spider-man by Geek+In+Training · · Score: 5, Funny

    I liked Jon Stewart's (of The Daily Show) description a couple of years ago when the movie was up to be greenlighted by the major studios... something along the lines of:

    "Just remember, spidey; when you're up in front of all those Hollywood mogul-types, it's not "Spider-Man," it's (pronounced): Spidermn, Eli Spidermn."

    Nobody tells better "jew jokes" than Mr. Stewart. :)

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  11. Newly crazed buddy's dad... by Mathness · · Score: 2, Funny

    he need some fancy high tech nano stuff to get into this stage?

    When I was a kid, throwing snow or water ballons inside, was more than enough.

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  12. My Suck-O-Meter has been flat so far by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 3, Funny

    It seems like, for the first time in a long while, somebody Gets the Comic Book Idea.

    Which usually means "tight, interesting story, complex characters in the ordinary world with extraordinary circumstances, and spandex".

    Now, if we can just get someone to perform a videogames2movie conversion that doesn't suck. (Well, except for Street Fighter II the Animated Movie, but that was an anime, so it doesn't count.)

    1. Re:My Suck-O-Meter has been flat so far by Gulthek · · Score: 2

      Did you see Resident Evil? Great vg->movie. I played RE obsessively and loved the movie, my gf and her sister had never even heard of the games and loved the movie. What more do you want?

  13. Webslinger.... by booyah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or would you just go so far as to say he is a Web Master? Gives all those poor lonely cube monkies more hope eh?

    Ha Ha Green Goblin, I'll PHP your ass!!!

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  14. Free Comic Book Day by totallygeek · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Don't forget that Saturday, May 4 is "Free Comic Book Day". Most comic shops will give you a free comic book. Here is some information on that subject.

    1. Re:Free Comic Book Day by Issue9mm · · Score: 2

      Note, not all of the shops are partaking, and some are even charging for the free comic books.

      Diamond (the distributor) decided not to eat the distribution costs just because Marvel was eating the production costs. This leaves it up to each shop-owner to decide whether or not they're going to give away for free (beer?) something that they had to pay for. Not every shop (including successful ones) have the budget to be able to give away something that they didn't get for free.

      By all means, do check out the shops, but don't be too surprised if you're asked to pony up at the register.

      -9mm-

  15. Great Review by krmt · · Score: 4, Funny
    I'll try not to lone-gunman-are-dead the review...

    I won't comic-book-guy the details...
    Great review. Now you've just got to work on not verbing your nouns. ;-)
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    1. Re:Great Review by rvaniwaa · · Score: 2, Funny


      Great review. Now you've just got to work on not verbing your nouns


      "verbing"... Hmmm. :-)

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    2. Re:Great Review by Dr.+Smeegee · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Get plenty of sleep, eat right and take Gerund-tol, every day."

    3. Re:Great Review by foobar104 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Great review. Now you've just got to work on not verbing your nouns. ;-)

      "Verbing weirds language." -- Calvin

    4. Re:Great Review by Dr+Fro · · Score: 2, Funny
      Obligatory-

      Worst verbing, ever

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    5. Re:Great Review by krmt · · Score: 2
      is there a way to discuss verbing nouns without making the noun "verb" into a verb?
      Couldn't you just say "Don't use nouns as verbs" or "These people are using nouns incorrectly as verbs"? There are centuries-old patterns of speech that are in place to discuss this very thing.
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    6. Re:Great Review by Accipiter · · Score: 2

      Not verbing the nouns, and not starting sentences with conjunctions. I mean really, stick a comma in there somewhere.

      I will say it read better than a Katz review.

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  16. Something I can enjoy with the little lady by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 2

    My girlfriend isn't much of a (comic book/computer) geek, but she's been singing the damn theme song from the cartoon all week.
    At least she'll calm down after we see it.

    Hopefully it doesn't spawn a series of crappy, overhyped sequels though *cough* Batman *cough*

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  17. huh? by bilbobuggins · · Score: 2, Funny
    and Kirsten Dunst and the lovely Mary Jane

    Either this is a typo or Kirsten Dunst was getting blazed the whole movie...
    Their both good in their own way I suppose...

  18. huh? by GodHead · · Score: 2

    No globalism-running-rampant? No sales pitch? No Open-source? Evil multi-nationals? Where's the post 9/11 hellmouth Corporatism angle?

    I'm sorry, but reviews just aren't the same without the JonKatz.

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  19. "sic" em by GungaDan · · Score: 5, Funny
    "How about as Mary Jane? :)"

    Nah, he was right the first time - all movies are best viewed with a little Mary Jane.

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  20. Taco ? Look 'ere by cOdEgUru · · Score: 3, Funny

    All that, and I even scored tickets to the 12:01 showing of star wars on opening day ;)

    May You ROT IN HELLL!!!!!

    1. Re:Taco ? Look 'ere by dimator · · Score: 2

      Seriously though, this time around, I didnt even try for 12:01 tickets... maybe I'm just not as excited about ep2 as I was for ep1. Oh well... opening night on a HUGE screen is still good enough. :)

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    2. Re:Taco ? Look 'ere by hal200 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Excuse me, but I couldn't help notice your use of non-geek language. The geek-conscious version of your statement should be:

      May You ROT-13 IN DMCA HELL!!!

      These small changes will help prevent misunderstanding within the /. community. Thank you.

      This has been a public service announcement.

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  21. woo by nomadic · · Score: 2

    Now I HAVE to see the movie. Just found out that in it he's from the same tiny, obscure neighborhood in Queens that I am...

  22. Someone has to say it... by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, we should just rush out and put money in the pockets of the MPAA?

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    1. Re:Someone has to say it... by Moonshadow · · Score: 2

      Nah - just sneak in, or get your theater-working buddy to get you through.

      Either that, or pay, then just don't watch the commercials/previews beforehand. Since that's stealing, the price evens out nicely to $0!

    2. Re:Someone has to say it... by cybermage · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So, we should just rush out and put money in the pockets of the MPAA?

      Find a theater showing Spider-man and an Indie flick at about the same time. Buy a ticket for the Indie and sit down in the Spider-man theater "by mistake." Just don't do it when Spider-man is sold out.

      For bonus points, buy another ticket for the Indie flick and see that too.

    3. Re:Someone has to say it... by MaggieL · · Score: 2
      You might have better luck finding a theater playing S-M with an Indiana Jones movie, though.

      True. Lots of places run S-M movies alongside Indiana Jones. I think it's the whip...

      We named the dog "Indiana"...

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    4. Re:Someone has to say it... by ewhac · · Score: 2

      Find a theater showing Spider-man and an Indie flick at about the same time. Buy a ticket for the Indie and sit down in the Spider-man theater "by mistake." [ ... ]

      Um, how many theaters who managed to book a film like Spider-Man would also be booking indie flicks?

      I mean, what kind of theater that screens Spider-Man would also screen something like Orlando ?

      Schwab

  23. Re:Get a life by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    It's spelled "pickle"

  24. Oh my god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    How to actually kill Wolverine was the topic of many a cafeteria discussion when I was in college.

    Take me. Take me now. You're a woman's dream.

    1. Re:Oh my god by AftanGustur · · Score: 2
      Take me. Take me now. You're a woman's dream.

      Show us your geek code and we'l think about it !

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  25. super powers by stagl · · Score: 3, Funny

    i find it humorous that spider-man loves 'mary jane'...maybe all those superpowers are just a mild hallucination. :)

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  26. Re:Uh whatever by Mr+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I love responses like this. Because they are closer to Hollywood their oppinion is more valid?
    In that case, my sister works for the guy who produced and wrote Pleasantville, Big, and other movies and SHE said it was good.

    Exactly, who the hell cares what she thinks.

  27. Re:Spiderman very underhyped by daeley · · Score: 3, Funny

    Spiderman very underhyped

    Spider-Man has been very underhyphened as well. ;)

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  28. I liked it too by mattbelcher · · Score: 3, Insightful
    After picking up my Star Wars tickets this morning, I decided to stay a little later and see Spider-Man (with a hyphen) as well, especially since I had already taken the whole morning off work.

    I'm a long time Spider-Man fan, so I was looking forward to/dreading seeing it made into a film. The best praise I can give it is that it was very accurate. The story of the original Green Goblin was told just as I remember it from the comic books, with a few exceptions which aren't really worth getting into.

    The greatest thing about it isn't so much that the plot is accurate, but that the characters are. The first scene with J. Jonah Jameson captured the man's essence perfectly. Does he really think Spider-Man is a menace or does he just want to sell more papers? Norman Osborne is very well done, which is good since he gets the majority of screen time, after Parker. His personality-changing rage is reminiscent of the Incredible Hulk, but more devious. His interactions with Harry are are nice as well. You can already see the personality flaws and fatherly abuses that will eventually lead Harry to his own fate.

    Despite the film's strong characterization and fantastic special effects, I didn't leave the film completely awed as I did with other films. It was all excellent, and polished, but it was missing a sense of wonder. Most of the film has been done before, just not all at the same time. Regardless, I think the film was successful. Hardcore Spidey fans won't be shocked by any heresy, action fans will be impressed by the web-swinging, and even those who prefer love stories won't be disappointed.

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  29. Re:Get a life by daeley · · Score: 3, Funny

    Actually I think it was Pick-El originally, but has gradually lost the hyphen and the spelling over time. ;)

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  30. expectations? by rapid+prototype · · Score: 2, Funny

    I had the highest hopes of any movie since Episode I.

    so i guess a little book made into a movie last christmas didn't suit your fancy?

    -rp

  31. Let's get back to superheroes... by Strange_Attractor · · Score: 3, Funny
    Wasn't Pick-El Superman's father?

    (BTW, I always wanted to see a jewish Superman whose dad could be Emanu-El)

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    1. Re:Let's get back to superheroes... by daeley · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do you mean Super-Man?

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    2. Re:Let's get back to superheroes... by Steev · · Score: 2

      Ja-Rule was Superman's father? Supes has the bitch-ass raps.

  32. Re:It's Spider-Man. by Alzheimers · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As long as we're nitpicking...

    I'm gonna be pretty ticked if the theme song doesn't go something like...

    Spider-man, Spider-man
    Does whatever a spider can
    Spins a web, any size
    Catches thieves, just like flies
    Look out! Here comes the Spider-man!

    Is he strong? Listen, Bud!
    He's got radioactive blood.
    Can he swing from a thread?
    Take a look overhead.
    Hey there, there goes the Spider-man!

    In the chill of night,
    At the scene of the crime
    Like a streak of light
    He arrives just in time

    Spider-man, Spider-man
    Friendly neighborhood Spider-man
    Wealth and fame, he's ignored
    Action is his reward

    To him, life is a great big bang-up
    Wherever there's a hang-up
    You'll find the Spider-man!

  33. Just skipped work and saw it... by RobinH · · Score: 2

    ... and it was GREAT! It couldn't have been done better. I highly recommend it. The direction and writing was good - it didn't try to explain anything to the audience like they were stupid. I might actually go see it again tonight, and I Never do that!

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  34. Re:It's spider-man by Strange_Attractor · · Score: 3, Informative

    It isn't GC (Geekily Correct) of me to know this, but Phoebe and Chandler did a nice job with this very joke a few years ago on Friends.

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  35. Why PG-13? by Hell+O'World · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My 4 year old really wants to see this movie, and I'm wondering why a movie with a potential audience going way down in age, would they aim for a teenage rating? I wonder if I should heed that "Parents Strongly Cautioned"? I'll probably take him, but it'll probably scar him for life :)
    Or at least give him a few good nightmares.

    1. Re:Why PG-13? by XBoyAdv · · Score: 3, Informative

      There are some "graphic scenes" especially the end. Some blood, punching, and lot of Green Goblins laughing.

    2. Re:Why PG-13? by Lachrymite · · Score: 5, Funny

      Be careful! After the scene I keep seeing previews for, with Kirsten Dunst in a completely soaked and tight shirt, your kid might suddenly try reverting to breast feeding at age 4.

    3. Re:Why PG-13? by krmt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hell, that scene makes me want to revert to breast feeding at age 21.

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    4. Re:Why PG-13? by John_Booty · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If they give the film too light of a rating, the crucial older crowd won't want to see it. And with a slightly older rating, that practically guarantees all the younger kids will want to see it. It's win/win for the studios.

      I remember hearing Spielberg say they put certain things into E.T. for just this reason, to avoid the dreaded "G" rating. Of course, that may have just been his excuse for taking them out of th newly-released version. :)

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    5. Re:Why PG-13? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2

      Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane Watson is the Carrie Fisher as Princess Leia (in the metal bikini) for the new age of young boys. Thing is, she looks a lot better than Carrie Fisher ever did. Kirsten Dunst as a redhead is the real attraction of the movie.

    6. Re:Why PG-13? by citizenc · · Score: 2

      The comics were violent, therefore the movies will be too. There isn't any real GORE in the film (our webslinging friend gets a cut at one point and bleeds a little), but there is violence. (Stuff blowing up, etc.)

      Not to mention that the Green Goblin is downright SCARY. It rocks.

      But, over all, I don't think I'd have a problem letting a 4 year old see the film if they can handle some tension and a few surprises.

  36. The Prisoner by October_30th · · Score: 2, Funny
    You're not a free man, you're married.

    Hey! You're right. How come The Village missed that particular trick? The Number Six would have talked in no time if he would have been convinced he had a wife.

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    1. Re:The Prisoner by Royster · · Score: 2

      Hey! You're right. How come The Village missed that particular trick? The Number Six would have talked in no time if he would have been convinced he had a wife.

      It's been years since I watched The Prisoner, but didn't they actually do that episode?

      It's being rerun on my local PBS station. I'll let you know if I see that episode.

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  37. Re:Already done by Ubergrendle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It was in part of the regular run Uncanny X-Men series back in the Chris Claremnont days. It was re-run in a TPB called "Nights of Future Past"...basically in the future the Sentinels rule the US and kill off the X-Men and all other superbeings one by one. A last stand fails, so Jean Grey's daughter -- The Phoenix a la Excalibur -- time travels back to warn the X-Men and change the past IIRC. Yes, I'm a geek.

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  38. Stan Lee editorial in NYT by revscat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Stan Lee has an editorial in today's New York Times (free reg required blah blah blah), wherein he talks about Spidey's long-lasting appeal. Short on depth but fulla Stan Lee goodness, it's worth a read.

  39. Re:Yay!!! by bmongar · · Score: 5, Funny

    But didn't you want to know how Spider-Man effects the globalist wired society and unseatd the digrati by smashing the digital divide?

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  40. Re:It's Spider-Man. by kwik_mart · · Score: 2, Funny

    Funny, I didn't even notice the lack of a hyphen when I read that review the first time. Quick question: should "anal retentive" be hyphenated?

  41. So,We are not boycotting the evil MPAA this week? by swv3752 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So with Sony being a part of the MPAA and RIAA, it is ok to still see this Movie? After all you did realize this was a Sony movie.

    :-P

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  42. Nitpicks. (spoilage) by redtoade · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1. Mary Jane as white trash... huh?
    2. Very slow on the ground. You can tell this when all the kids at the matinee start talking... nothing to keep their attention.
    3. no web cartridges? damn. How many plots rely on him running out of web fluid?
    4. Stan Lee cameo... give me a break. Wasn't Jack Kirby involved with Spiderman? Where's his credit?

    Other than that, I couldn't keep the smile from my face. Will see it at least 2 more times I'm sure.

  43. What every guy wants? by Pinball+Wizard · · Score: 4, Funny
    And goddamn it, the raw sense of excitement as he discovers his abilities is enough to make every guy wish he had those powers- swinging from building to building and howling like a mad freak.


    Hmm...I'll take Kirsten Dunst. You can swing from building to building howling like a mad freak all you want.

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  44. A kindler, gentler Spider-Man by graybeard · · Score: 2

    Maybe my memory is faulty, but as I recall, the Spider-Man in the comics had a dark, brooding personality. Until the very end, this spidey has really only one scene where he shows that, and the scene came out of nowhere; it didn't really fit. Perhaps he'll move that way in S-M-II.

  45. "Spider-Man" To Cost Economy $300,000,000 by Mad+Man · · Score: 2, Funny

    I skipped out early this morning and went to see the first showing of Spiderman in my local theater.

    How much did that cost the economy?

    1. Re:"Spider-Man" To Cost Economy $300,000,000 by Pinball+Wizard · · Score: 2

      actually, if Slashdot shut down the day Star Wars premiered, it just might offset that...you do know /. is populated by geeks who are slacking off at work, don't you?

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    2. Re:"Spider-Man" To Cost Economy $300,000,000 by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 2

      you do know /. is populated by geeks who are slacking off at work, don't you?

      Speak for yourself! Some of us don't have jobs to slack off from! :)

      If anything, that should slightly offset the $300 mil in damage caused by the next few weeks' openings.

  46. Re:The nature of Spiderman's webbing by Nobody's+Hero · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, In the comic books he had web-shooters that he(Peter Parker) designed. They shot out a special compund sort of like a liquid cement that hardened on contact with air(once again peter designed this). This compound also disolved in air after a few hours(so that there weren't webs lieing all over New York City). The compund was loaded into tiny air compressed cartridges. These cartridges then were loaded into his "web shooters".

    The webshooters were essentially a metal apparatus that wrapped around his wrists with a little bulb that rested in his palms...when he touched his middle fingers against this bulb.the compund shot out of a little falve on the underside of his wrists and BAM web bonanza!!!

    later on in life he got a special "alien" suit(now worn by Venom) which had the webbing stuff all built in and shot out at a simple thought by peter. This suit fired the stuff out of the tops of his wrists. This was all fine and dandy then he realized that the suit was a symbiot trying to take over his body. So he ditched it and went back to the old web shooters.

    I have not seen the movie yet but can only guess that he produces webs without the aid of anything special...just his body. That must be the case because the reviewer mentioned that there was something odd about thew nature of Spidey's webbing.

    All of this Spiderman stuff should not be mistaken with SPIDER-MAN 2099 in which he had spinnerets in his arms(just like a spiders). The squirted real wbs when he flezed his arms in a special way.

    Anyway that's it....more than you wanted to know....

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  47. Re:It's Spider-Man. by Bob+McCown · · Score: 2, Insightful
    should "anal retentive" be hyphenated?

    No, but we need an "Anal Retentive" moderation category...

  48. Re:Wait a cottonpickin minute... by ProfMoriarty · · Score: 2
    Hell ... next he'll try to tell us that Vader is Lukes' dad ... like that'll ever happen ..

    :P

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  49. Re:So,We are not boycotting the evil MPAA this wee by be-fan · · Score: 2

    Sony is a big company, split into lots of piecies. Sony movies and sony games are great divisions. The funny thing is that one arm of Sony doesn't know what the other arm is doing. There's that new NetMD commercial, which tells you how you can use the Sony NetMD to rip music, meanwhile Sony Music is going freaky over the wave of MP3 "music stealing."

    BTW> The NetMD rocks. 2.5 (at good quality) hours of music, 56 hours of battery life, cheap ($2) media. The players themselves are small, durable, and can take quite a beating without skipping. Now, if it only worked in Linux ;)

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  50. But can I take my 8 year-old? by tjgrant · · Score: 2

    I desperately wanted to share LoTR with my son, but couldn't do it as it was too violent for him.

    My wife and I were both really upset when we saw that Spider-man was going to be PG-13, so I'm thinking that it is also probably out for my son.

    That said, I'd love to hear from some parents on whether they think it would or wouldn't be appropriate for me to take my boy.

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    1. Re:But can I take my 8 year-old? by LetterJ · · Score: 2

      If you believe the listings that a local site (twincities.citysearch.com) is showing, this movie is rated "G".

    2. Re:But can I take my 8 year-old? by pete-classic · · Score: 2

      Two words: Willem Dafoe

      Man that guy gives me the heebee-jeebeies.

      Seriously, there is a lot of ominous cackling, and several jump out of your seat moments.

      If you think Bilbo's "moment of weakness" would have freaked you kid, probably best to leave him at home for this one.

      There is also a lot of "comic book violence". People's faces or entire bodies shoved through windows, that sort of thing.

      I guess it really boils down to how desensitized your kid already is.

      -Peter

    3. Re:But can I take my 8 year-old? by tjgrant · · Score: 2

      Several of my co-workers saw it yesterday at a matinee. When they returned to the office I quizzed them relentlessly on whether it was appropriate for an eight year old. I got several unqualified 'yes's' and one qualified 'yes'.

      So Travis and I went to see Spider-man together last night. We both jumped a couple of times, and both thoroughly enjoyed it. If I was on the ratings committee (or whatever it is that does the ratings) I would have probably rated it PG, not PG-13.

      The final fight is pretty graphic, and has what could have been a very gory scene, however, the editing was well done and everyone understood exactly what happened without any blood.

      Travis told me that we would have to buy it when it comes out on DVD. He also told me he wished that William (his five-year-old brother) could see it. But when I reminded him that William hides around the corner of the room at the scary scenes in Disney movies, he re-assessed the situation and said maybe William shouldn't see it.

      That said, we both agreed that my youngest son Kellan (who will be four tomorrow) would have thoroughly enjoyed it.

      I hope this helps someone make, what can be, a difficult decision--at least for parents who care what their kids feed into their brains.

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  51. My coding superpowers by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was bitten by a radioactive punchcard. Now I have the superhuman ability to write code for IBM704s.

  52. Re:It's Spider-Man. by daeley · · Score: 3, Funny

    should "anal retentive" be hyphenated?

    Only if used as an adjectival phrase in front of a noun: 'anal-retentive post' as opposed to 'the post was anal retentive.'

    ROFL

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  53. see it, help the pro-DMCA, anti-freedom lobby? by peterw · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It's sci-fi/CGI/comic stuff and we're geeks, so we must see it, right? Bah.

    It's a Sony Pictures movie. Sony's a member of the MPAA, who love the DMCA. Sony Pictures has been cited as a supporter of Fritz Holling's Security Systems Standards and Certification Act (SSSCA) bill. We're talking about the kind of folks that hire lawyers to sue teenage hackers for writing unauthorized DVD playback software for GNU/Linux systems. Sure, it might be a great movie, but at least stop a minute to think where your money's going, what it will be used for down the road.

    Anybody who says one vote doesn't matter must've missed the last US elections.

    1. Re:see it, help the pro-DMCA, anti-freedom lobby? by JFMulder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      /%?%$!!"/$$??!/ How come people rate this crap as insightfull, or anything!!! Stop f**king around always complaining about companies do this, and companies do that, they don't want me to pirate their stuff, I can't illegally get the stuff they own for free. Get a life. They have the right because they OWN the product. If you can't get that across you narrow minded stealing anti-everything little brain, then you're going to find like to be VERY LONG and very boring, because you DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO STEAL! You said it yourself : unauthorized DVD playback software. It's UNAUTHORIZED. You don't have the right to do it because it infringes copyrights. Whether or not cpopyrights and IP is a good thing is another debate. For the time being, go see the movie, because it's funny, a hell of a good ride and stop whining.

    2. Re:see it, help the pro-DMCA, anti-freedom lobby? by ainsoph · · Score: 2

      Wow, you obviously are not that informed about the issues you are ranting about.

      *Some* people are not talking about *stealing*, some people are talking about *fair-use*, some people are talking about being afraid to write code. Do you really think Alan Cox, kernel hacker is a software pirate? Guess what? He is vehemently afraid of those legislations, so much so he will not step foot on American soil. This is the fate of many Open Source devlopers. They are not *stealing* pirates like you suggest.

      So I dont know, nor can I tell if you use Linux or not, but um, if you do, there is a code that falls into this arena, which you claim is "anti-everything, stealing, blah blah BS".

      So instead of being a sadly misinformed ranty head who obviously loves living in a world of "Oh so they wanna drill for oil in Alaska, or bad stuff is going on in ______, who cares, whats on TV?", if thats the world you prefer, thats cool, just stop voting, and STFU, you are screwing it up for the people that care.

      Thanks.

  54. Re:Killing Wolverine by TheGreenLantern · · Score: 2

    Well, presumably he was killed when they used The Ultimate Nullifier in one of those Franklin Richards-created alternate universes right after Onslaught ;)

    Also, didn't the "Professor X Files" they found right around Onslaught indicate the best way to kill Wolvie was to cut off his head with an adamantium sword or something like that?

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  55. Re:It's Spider-Man. by Eccles · · Score: 2, Funny

    Quick question: should "anal retentive" be hyphenated?

    I prefer:
    "Is there a dash in anal retentive?"
    because then someone can respond
    "Damnit, it's a HYPHEN!"

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  56. Fixed link by T.Hobbes · · Score: 3, Informative

    The link is broken.. try this link, to the main page of the event, insted.

  57. Re:It's Spider-Man. by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2

    I always thought he was saying "Fun Liquor"

  58. Spiderman? by sharkey · · Score: 2

    Is that his last name, like Goldman or Peterman? Sheesh, you skip out of work to go support the MPAA, and you can't even manage to spell the proper noun, which is both title of the movie your are reviewing and the name of the main character, in the title (or body) of your review.

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  59. But did they hit you with advertising? by doom · · Score: 2
    Maybe I'm weird, but what I want to know is did they plaster the damn thing with advertising?

    I don't bother with a lot of Hollywood movies, but the last few that I saw (Lord of the Rings, and X-Men, I think), they preceeded the trailers with a string of bigname coporate television-style advertising for crap like Coca-cola, Nike and Microsoft. I might go see a Spider-man movie for the hell of it (without expecting much from it), but I will not pay to see Microsoft ads.

    At a bear minimum, please do scream "bullshit" when you they push an ad on you. An entire audience chanting "Linux! Imac! Linux! Imac!" in response to a Microsoft ad would definitely warm the heart.

    1. Re:But did they hit you with advertising? by joey · · Score: 2

      Plenty of product placement in this film anyway, a sony flatscreen TV, and some soft drink got plenty of camera time.

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    2. Re:But did they hit you with advertising? by pete-classic · · Score: 2

      I think it was nissin cup-o-noodles.

      The palm logo below and to the left of it (as I recall) was distractingly phony looking.

      Too blue, too sharp (that that distance) and oriented too directly at the camera for where it was placed. Luckilly it was small.

      -Peter

    3. Re:But did they hit you with advertising? by Servo5678 · · Score: 2
      Don't forget about all the ad banners at the Unity Festival. I wonder how much Cingular paid to be in this movie?

      Still, I guess it was worth it to see...

      *SPOILER* .

      .

      .

      .

      ... The Green Goblin surf around the buildings.

  60. Re:Killing Wolverine AND A FREE COMIC BOOK by spideyct · · Score: 2, Informative

    Uh, you don't have to go far to find another method of killing Wolverine....

    Drop by your local comic store this weekend to pick up your FREE COMIC BOOK. While there, you could also pick up Wolverine #175 -- the most recent -- for another possible answer debated in this thread.

    (I'm trying not to lone-gunmen-are-dead the ending, but I think I'm failing miserably)

  61. Re:It's Spider-Man. by sharkey · · Score: 2

    Hell, he could look at the ticket stub from the movie he just saw.

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  62. Let's ask John by Catbeller · · Score: 2

    If it's anal-retentive to insist on spelling a character's name correctly, then I'm sure John Cats would point it out...

  63. Next Batman. by Wntrmute · · Score: 2

    Yes

    It's a essentially prequel, and is supposed to be based on Frank Miller's "Batman: Year One" comic books.

    I'm particularly interested in it becuase Darren Aronofsky is directing. I would expect it to have a darker feel to it, like the original Batman movie.

  64. just got back from the theatre. by RestiffBard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    very very happy. I thought tobey was great. but then I like tobey maguire in any role. As far as the way the movie was put together it just seemed better than batman. Batman was great but it was always so super comical, the sets were unreal, the costumes were jsut abstract. thats it batman was abstract and impressionistic and I think Spider-Man is more realistic (I'm talking the look, the fact that there's a guy swinging from skyscrapers is not what I'm talking about) as for the CG. well there is one spot that looks a little funny but only for a sec. Also what right do we ahve to complain? Stan Lee exec produced it. He's even in it if you look real close.

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  65. This lifetime Spidey fan loved it by sunhou · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Oops, posted my review over on the other slashdot article about Spidey today before seeing this story, where it is more appropriate. Here it is again, slightly modified.

    I got my first Spidey comic when I was about 6 (27 years ago), and have been a fan my whole life. Spidey (and Fantastic Four and Superman) were part of what fueled my interest in science as a kid, since they were always inventing all sorts of cool stuff.

    Going into the Spider-Man movie, I was sure there was no way it could live up to my hopes/expectations. Whenever I have this high hopes about a movie I'm always disappointed. I was even kinda bummed about the whole organic webshooters versus mechanical.

    I watched the movie this afternoon. I had some little nits to pick here and there, but overall as a whole, the movie was way better than I expected.

    They did so many things right. The bit with "the burglar that changed his life" was done perfectly, and that's what I most expected them to do poorly. That whole section of the movie, as he was figuring out who he was and what he could do, was very well done. There were some scenes you could tell were computer-generated, but the for the most part, the excitement of the movie made it easier to tolerate. And the movie would have been worse without those scenes, or if they had tried to do them physically with stuntmen.

    The main characterization I felt was missing was that it would have been nice to have seen more background of the relation between Spidey and his Uncle Ben. Although I guess even in the original comics, we never really got that (although we heard about it plenty over the years).

    Anyway, I loved it. I can't wait for the DVD. I'll probably bring my dad to watch it this weekend, since he used to be a bit of a Spidey fan too.

  66. Good, but did the same mistake as Batman did by JFMulder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This movie was really great. Really. I think Star Wars is going to have great competition this year in the form of Spider-Man. The only mistake of the Spider-Man flick is the same error that the Batman movies have done : *** SPOILER ALERT, WELL, NOT MUCH OF A ONE, BUT STILL... ****** They kill off the Green Goblin in the end. If they do 2 or 3 other movies, they will probably run out of vilains, like Batman did. Sure, Spider Man has a lot of foes, but do we really want to see Spider-Man vs. Sand Man?
    **** SPOILER END *****

    1. Re:Good, but did the same mistake as Batman did by vjzuylen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Much like Batman, Spider-Man has plenty of enemies in the comic book series; Sandman would in fact be the least of his problems. Unlike Batman though, Spider-Man doesn't seem to be limited to just one or two interesting arch-nemeses.

      For the first movie, I would've liked to see Spidey take on a non-superhuman like the Kingpin. That way, the audience would've gotten a better idea of how Spider-Man's powers compare to those of a human foe, albeit an extremely rich, well-armed and resourceful one.

      Then there's Dr. Octopus. To an extent, his mechanical tentacles give him similar mobility to Spider-Man, which should make for some very interesting battles and chase scenes across the cityscape. The problem with Doc Ock is that he's another crazed scientist in a techno suit, making him less suitable for an immediate sequel.

      Speaking of crazed scientists, there's also the Lizard, whose tragic history would place Spider-Man's own genesis into an interesting context. If you've ever seen the Spider-Man cartoons, you'll know that at some point in the story the spider-half of Parker's genetic makeup becomes dominant, essentially transforming him into a giant spider very slowly. He seeks out the help of Lizard's human alter ego, who in turn is desperately trying to keep his own animal side from gaining control.

      And of course you've got Rhino, who's probably not impressive enough as an enemy; Elektro, whose powers seem too straightforward (let's not mention his ridiculous costume either); Mysterio, who would make for some very tiresome illusion-inside-an-illusion storytelling; and Sandman, who.. well... After 'The Mummy', his powers just wouldn't be all that impressive to audiences.

      The ultimate foe for Spider-Man would probably be Venom, or maybe Carnage. The problem with those two is their back story: even if it could be squeezed into one movie, it's probably too far-fetched for most movie audiences. A genetically altered human gaining spider-like powers is hard enough to swallow; let's not enter symbiotic alien suits from a galaxy far away into the equasion. Still, as long as Venom remains an evil, more powerful version of Spider-Man, Raimi can adapt his back story however he sees fit.

      And if they REALLY run out of ideas, they could always have some mercenary uncover all of Osbourne's research, expose himself to the same technology, and turn him into the Hobgoblin...

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    2. Re:Good, but did the same mistake as Batman did by Da_Monk · · Score: 2

      >do we really want to see Spider-Man vs. Sand Man?

      Heck yes, I really want to see who they cast as lady death. :)

  67. Boycott cancelled? by Trickster+Coyote · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This sounds great. I think I'll rush out to see this right away!

    Uhh,... the MPAA boycott has been cancelled, right?

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    1. Re:Boycott cancelled? by Servo5678 · · Score: 2
      Uhh,... the MPAA boycott has been cancelled, right?

      Dude, it's the weekend. Who works on the weekend?

      But come Monday morning it's back to business as usual.

  68. "... and it's a piece of junk!" by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 2

    Haven't you seen "The Evil Dead" on DVD? Haven't you heard Bruce Campbell's commentary to that movie?

    Quote Bruce Campbell:
    "Now Sam will lie to you about this car [the aforementioned "classic"]; he calls it a classic. It's a '73 Delta 88 Oldsmobile and it's a piece of junk! This car had been in numerous super-8 mm of Sam's in the past, and for some reason he felt obligated to use it in this movie. We tried to wreck it but it didn't work, and you'll find out that this movie is in almost every one of ... this car is in almost every one of Sam Raimi's movies from this point on."

    No - it's not a classic - it's a piece of junk!

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  69. Saw it, really enjoyed it by osgeek · · Score: 2

    My wife and I caught the noon showing, and we both really enjoyed it.

    It's very well done.

    The good:
    - The performances were top notch.
    - The effect of swinging on a web through New York was excellent and very "realistic".
    - The pacing really kept things interesting.

    The not bad, but could be better:
    - Toby Maguire always sounds like he needs to clear a loogie out of his throat.
    - It's rather amazing that the general public doesn't figure out the identities of Spider-Man or the Green Goblin. Spidey does lots of pretty amazing stuff as Peter Parker (without his mask on), and the Green Goblin's identity should be fairly obvious based on his research and government contracts.

    1. Re:Saw it, really enjoyed it by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Not to mention the fact that Willem Dafoe really LOOKS like the Goblin mask when he grins.

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  70. Re:Killing Wolverine by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 2

    Actually, in one episode Wolverine was sent into orbit around a small moon, and yes - he survived. Now, I would think, that Hulk would just send Logan into orbit and think that was that.

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  71. Re:Spiderman very underhyped by Software · · Score: 2, Funny

    If it were a word, it would be under-hyphenated, not underhyphened! I think underhyphened is similar to underlined.</anal-retentiveness>

  72. Re:The nature of Spiderman's webbing by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 2

    Actually they're not claws, they're hooks, and that's how spiders hang on to stuff - and if I'm not mistaken (obviously) that's also how it works in the comic, with the small hooks being able to penetrate the suit without ripping it.

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  73. Re:PG-13 rating by whizzird · · Score: 2, Informative

    Some light language, violence, and nipples through a wet shirt.
    Expect the kid to get scared by the green goblin though (but then, scaring kids is his job).

  74. Is English your second language, Rob? by Kasreyn · · Score: 2

    I skipped out early this morning and went to see the first showing of Spiderman in my local theater. The Sam Raimi directed spiderman

    Caps needed: *Spiderman*

    is the first of the summers

    *summer's*

    blockbusters and stars Toby Maguire as the webslinger, Willem Dafoe as the Green Goblin and Kirsten Dunst and

    *as*

    the lovely Mary Jane. And guess what? Its

    *It's*

    one of the best comic book movies I've ever seen. I loved it. And I'll try not to lone-gunman

    *gunmen*

    -are-dead the review, but if you're super paranoid, just skip out, go see the flick, and enjoy it.

    I find it sad that *I* have a "lameness filter" on what I can post, but Taco doesn't have a SPELLING filter.

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  75. Re:Killing Wolverine AND A FREE COMIC BOOK by Issue9mm · · Score: 2

    Of note, not all the comic books are being distributed as free... depends on the shop, really.

    Diamond (the distributor) wouldn't eat the costs, so they got passed along to the shops. It's up to each shop to decide whether or not they're going to eat the costs like Marvel did. Most of the shops I know of simply can't afford to.

    -9mm-

  76. Re:The nature of Spiderman's webbing by Dreamweaver · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nope, at least not originally. Spidey was just sticky. It was explained in one of the Spiderman annuals with the hologram covers from years back (I'm sure in other places before and since, but that was during the period I actually read comics). The whole issue was Peter explaining his powers to Mary Jane (kinda a rip-off of an issue, but ah well). He said he could make any part of his body stick to anything (which sparked a query from Mary as to whether he could do it with any part, which rather surprised me considering how much less risque comics were back then) and that he made the gloves and boots of the suit extremely thin so he could stick through them. That, in turn, prompted Mrs. Parker to fret about him catching cold through the material.

    Yes, I know, I have an inordinately detailed memory for absolutely useless facts. Now if only I could do the same with actually useful facts...

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  77. Re:Gwen Stacey by j-beda · · Score: 2

    Gwen's storyline is essentially taken up by MJ, who doesn't die. They did put in the whole wrestling, petty criminal who later becomes a killer, power/responsibility thing, and did it quite well in my opinion.

  78. Re:Not Great ... So, so by CamelTrader · · Score: 2

    And as a billionaire, he could be the best super hero ever, super rich like batman but super powered like spiderman! Imagine spiderman with "those wonderful toys"!

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  79. Re:Nitpicks. (spoilage) by Peale · · Score: 2

    Jack Kirby is DEAD. Therefore, no cameo.

    Well, I guess there _could_ have been one, but eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwww...

  80. Re:It's Spider-Man. by hanway · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want to hear those lyrics, stick around through the credits.

  81. Bullet Time... yet again. by jazzmanjac · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Every movie with some sort of action scene since "The Matrix" has used their own version of "Bullet Time" and this is no exception. Will it ever stop?!? I guess this is now a must-do... Hollywood has taken the red pill. The first time was cool, but now it's just a cliche.

    J.

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    1. Re:Bullet Time... yet again. by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 3, Informative

      There's very little bullet time in the movie. Bullet time was a specific way of doing things that let you see all angles around the target. It takes a lot of cameras, a lot of time, and a lot of fancy work.

      What you saw was just good old slow motion. They slowed everything down a bunch, and that was good enough. It wasn't anything special, but conveyed the fact that Spidey was moving faster than you'd normally be able to see. It was perfect.

  82. CmdrTaco, you are 100% correct by eples · · Score: 2



    Great Minds Think Alike - I also saw an early showing of Spider-Man today and I agreee 100% with your review. It is an excellent movie, I just can't say enough good things about it.

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  83. Spiderman reducing productivity by Animats · · Score: 2

    Parking lot at Silicon Valley multiplex nearly full at 3:30PM Friday.

  84. hmmmmm Spidey_Berry products!! Yummy!!! by ainsoph · · Score: 2

    Wow since the movie is good, guess I will have to go check it out, then load up on all those YUMMY Spidey-Berry products lining the supermarket shelves.

    So how much does Spidey_Berry figure into the movie? What is it? Radioactive Berries Spidey loves to eat? Some drink Peters mom makes for him? Whats up?

    mmmm Spidey Berry, Pop Tarts, Cereal.. What else?

    http://www.kelloggs.com/promotions/spiderman/Spi de rman.htm

    http://www.digitalwebbing.com/news/042602-7.html

    http://www.kosi101.com/kelloggs-contest.html

  85. Spoilage Warning by proverbialcow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I loved it, too, except at the very end where Mary Jane inexplicably expresses her undying love for Peter. Where the hell did that come from?

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  86. Re:It's Spider-Man. by ErikTheRed · · Score: 2

    (mildly offtopic, keep your panties on). Yeah, but would an Anal Retentive mod be +1 or -1? There's about 15 years worth of debate...

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  87. SPOILER--*Spider-Man*: Just a Damn Good Movie. by Chasing+Amy · · Score: 2

    I've been familiar with Spider-Man only through the cartoons, which I haven't watched in, oh, fifteen years or so. But, going into the movie did remind me that Spider-Man used to be my favorite cartoon...

    As for the film itself, I'm damn impressed. There are movies which are nice entertaining little romps, which pass the time and are enjoyable. And then there are films which are all of that, plus a lot more--having a certain artistic and literary quality which gets the viewer more emotionally involved and maybe even has something to say about the world. *Spider-Man* falls in the latter category--great entertainment, but it also *says* something.

    Take for instance the plot point about Peter Parker's uncle/father figure being murdered by a robber whom he could have stopped earlier if he'd cared. That gives him/Spider-Man a tremendous feeling of guilt and need to atone for his sin, by helping strangers the way he chose not to on the day Uncle Ben was murdered. This is a very meaningful, deep motivation, and lends Spidey a brooding quality unlike other superheroes. It also gives the film more emotional depth than it would have if there were some standard meaningless plot without deep psychological motives beneath it.

    I couldn't help, afterward, comparing it to movies like *X-Men*. *X-Men* was entertaining, but had no real depth--it was pure entertainment with no real meaning. Sure, it has the brooding Wolverine character--but what exactly is he brooding over? The fact that he doesn't know his origins? That the X-Men treat him nicely, when others haven't? Oh, boo-hoo, what a shallow motivation. Poor him. Self-pity, how wonderful. But Spidey did something for which he's truly responsible, which will always motivate everything he does--he indirectly killed his beloved uncle, his father-figure, through inaction and lack of forethought. He will always be repaying that debt, with every person he saves and every evil he defeats. He cares deeply and feels constant remorse for a past he's trying to atone for. That's a very universal theme, not just a plot point.

    That, I think, is what made this film so great. I was watching *Return of the Jedi* the other night, and asking myself why it's so moving, why it means something long after other great films of the time are somewhat diminished. It's those universal themes again, which give it the scope of an epic saga rather than a mere movie. Dark Sides, redemption, good and evil, long-lost family, love, oppression, longing, the struggle for freedom. The SW Trilogy gains a universal appeal because of these themes.

    *Spider-Man* wasn't as epic, but was very much along those lines--themes of sin and redemption, a debt which can never be repaid, the loss of loved ones before their time and for which one feels responsible, love and longing, moving from adolescensce into adulthood, love that can't be consummated for its object's own good, heroically standing up for others. This is a movie which could be the beginning of an epic saga, although sadly its sequels will likely be more vacuous and less meaningful.

    At any rate, I thought Spidey to be a wonderful tragic hero in the guise of a standard comic-book character, and the movie to be a great mix of the literary disguised as the trivial.

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  88. Re:Already done by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2

    You're not too much of a geek:

    "Days of Future Passed" (echoing the Moody Blues 1967 album title) appeared in X-Men 141 and 142. It was actually John Byrne's next-to-last two issues, Claremont took over again shortly after (and the book was never as good again). The character who travelled back in time was Kate (nee Kitty) Pryde. Rachel Summers used her powers to send Kate's mind back in time to when she was 14 or 15 and had just joined the X-Men. Kate then had to help the X-Men prevent the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants (or whatever they called themselves c. 1980) from assassinating Senator Kelly (yes, the same guy in the movie) during a presidential campaign that started the hysteria that culminated in the creation of an army of Sentinels that ultimately took over the world and killed every superhuman.

    Anyhow, I can only spout this much detail about a few series of comic books for the 12 years or so I collected, and John Byrne's run on the X-Men rates a CBG "Best! Series! Ever!" in my book. I bought 'em off the newstand in the day, but they've been reprinted many times since.

    As an aside when X-Men 137 came out, I was about 16 and I made the decision that I bought comics because I liked them and not for profit, so I didn't buy extra speculative copies. I'm sure they're worth a bit now, but that's OK. I'm glad I was only in it for fun.

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  89. Re:It's spider-man by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

    Because 'splosions advance the plot better than dialog.

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  90. VIOLENCE by peter303 · · Score: 2

    The first and final fight scenes are pretty violent. They could frighten a kid. The ones inbetween are more artsy.

  91. 2 words description by ehiris · · Score: 2

    Wonderful movie

  92. Re:So,We are not boycotting the evil MPAA this wee by be-fan · · Score: 2

    They don't. Sure, it'll work under Linux as an optical device (SPDIF) but the OpenMG software, needed for NetMD mode (which allows LP mode and quick transfer of data) only runs on Windows.

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  93. Re:Nitpicks. (spoilage) by TBHiX · · Score: 2

    In reference to Mary Jane... actually this is reasonably true to the comic. She had _serious_ issues with her abusive father; it was part of the reason she was staying with *her* aunt, IIRC. This came out more or less the same time she and Parker got very serious (pre-marraige buildup).

    So dere. ;)

  94. Re:It's Spider-Man. by mblase · · Score: 2

    If you're going to nitpick, you should probably make sure that your subjects and verbs agree. "Someone" is singular. "They" is plural.

    "They" isn't a verb, either. If you're going to nitpick, you should probably make sure your name the problem correctly. ;-)