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George Lucas May Be Completely Evil
gabec writes "Sci-fi Wire is reporting a couple rumors about the changes being made to the original Star Wars trilogy for its next release. That being that Natalie Portman may be being inserted into Episode VI: Return of the Jedi and that universally reviled Jar Jar Binks may be being inserted into Episode IV: A New Hope. May The Force forbid." Mind you this is reported as rumor, but it's so unsurprisingly possible...
You're like abused wives. You keep coming back for more, even though it hurts.
who wants to see the exact same movies re-released anyway? Just rent the tapes....
A modern day witchhunt.
Didn't Leia say, "She died when I was very young." Wait, they're not going to make her a jedi-ghost, are they?
As soon as Lucas said he was waiting for the new three to be released before putting the originals on DVD, I said he was going to do this. What will it be called, Super Special Edition? Speciai Edition Pro? 32-Bit Special Edition Turbo?
I'm not sure if this is even a good idea.
It might work for continuity purposes (in George Lucas' mind), but frankly, most Star Wars fans prefer Episodes IV-VI to be as unchanged as possible even after Episode III is released. Lucas will be accused to overtinkering with the first Star Wars trilogy, and that won't win him friends among old-time Star Wars fandom, that's to be sure.
Raymond in Mountain View, CA
Jar-Jar is not UNIVERSALLY reviled: the Galactic Senate heartily approved of his proposal to grant Emp^H^H^HChancellor Palpatine emergency powers! Heck, even Anakin seems to like Jar-Jar, and we know what a hothead he can be. Don't you think Anakin would have dismembered Jar-Jar at the first opportunity if JJB was REALLY so reviled?
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So this means that our beloved RotJ is going to be ruined by annoying creatures added in to appeal to the kids? Nooooooo!
Next thing you know, he'll follow it up with a movie called Jar Jar : The Battle for Naboo, which'll be inane, cute and a travesty of... oh, wait.
Personally, I like the idea of this. It helps tie all 6 movies together and makes them seem like the series they are supposed to be. I mean, its not like he's totally changing the movie like he did with ANH and the Greedo scene.
...make changes to his own movie!
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However, Lucas just didn't figure out that he should've quit while he was ahead. So we get bullshit like Episode I. What an utter disappointment. That was the last new Star Wars movie that I'll ever be tricked into seeing. What remains is only the manifestation of Lucas's desire to ride the wave of merchandising income driven by the sheer inertia of the franchise. The only people that I really see as enjoying the new breed of Star Wars movies are those who are in denial of its poor quality, those who refuse to believe that the best days of their favorite Sci-Fi adventure series is behind them.
Sorry, folks. All good things must come to an end.
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Why is he altering the originals? To screw with our collective mind? It's like removing words from the dictionary in 1984. He is a very bad man, IMHO.
fixing what's wrong with Episodes I & II. I'm sure there's more extra footage around, and it wouldn't be too hard to shore up the plot in those two installments. I would pay to see The Phantom Edit on the big screen, and I'm sure we could even completely replace Jake Droid with a more lifelike computer animation.
Certainly the "oops . . . I just blew up a fleet" scene could be repaired.
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That gives it away.
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I wish that you people would at least *think* before you post online rumors like this one. Jar Jar in Episode 4? It takes place 30 years after Episode 3 ends, and the Gungans have a life span of only 25 years (from Episode 1). And where could Portman get worked into the plot of Jedi? There are no lines in the whole movie that reference a mother figure, only "I am your father". If anywhere, it would be in Empire, where Luke is talking to Obi Won, asking about his parents and finds out about his sister.
Personally, I liked most of the changes and enhancements of the "Special Editions" (except for Greedo shooting first).
I thought it was great they Jabba was added to A New Hope, and I look forward to seeing Natalie Portman in Return of the Jedi, but pleeeeease no more Jar Jar.
...that wants to eliminate copyrights so ANYONE can make changes like this on a whim?
Yeah, count my vote on that one.
I think I'd be happy with this news if they decide to replace the alien that was bullying Luke with Jar Jar, and instead of Obiwan cutting off his arm he decides to rid the Star Wars universe of him once and for all:
JJ: "Meesa wanted man in 12 systems!!!"
Luke: "I'll be careful"
JJ: "Yousa be dead like a da Gungans!!!"
(swoosh! - lops off his head)
You're like abused wives. You keep coming back for more, even though it hurts.
The parent will probably end up at -1 flamebait pretty soon, but it's actually an appropriate sentiment.
If you don't like what Lucas has done or is going to do (Episode 7 anyone?), just give your money to someone else. Break the cycle. His ego is such that he doesn't care if people hate Jar Jar or any of his other silly CGI insertions. AotC will make him millions and episode 3 will make him millions more, regardless. Just let it be and go focus in on other movies and moviemakers. They'll appreciate your 10$ more than Lucas ever will, I'm sure.
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I might skip watching the SW's movies...they've gotten "lazy" in the creativity department anyway.
First I want to say that any lengthy insert would be a disaster. I think their is no argument at all on that subject.
I can , however, see where a small insert would be helpfull to the story line. Something like a shot of jar jar watching luke meet obiwan and saying "the circle starts again" or something similar IANASW( I am not a script writer). A small item to help tie the first three with the next three. With the way that these movies were filmed, in reverse order, Something like this may be necesary to make them feel as a whole series again.
The other possibility is that he needs to add elements to tie the last three to the middle three. For an example having queen amadala show in return to say that she was never gone but hiding out and once the emporer is defeated we need to go do this. He may have excluded these parts in the original filming becuase it would have created a cliff hanger in the movie that would not be resolved for 30 to 40 years. Now he can add it and start the work, striving for a completed nine movies over three sets of three.
The point is a little dash of extra may not be so bad, have to see it to judge. Let's just hope this is not done as some marketting stunt to get us all buy the movies AGAIN.
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Since Lucas claims to be waiting for the current trilogy to be complete before releasing IV, V, and VI on DVD, it looks like we'll end up being stuck with the latest and greatest bastardization of the originals. Time to invest in a laser disc player.
Maybe there will be a hidden feature that will let you play the movie in the original, uncut version.
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How dare he ruin the series by making changes to it after it was released.
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If they're doing all of this revision, I hope JarJar officially goes over to the Dark side and becomes kind of a mini-me to Vader. Call him Darth JarJar. In Episode IV - Death Star Officer to Vader - "(insert new footage of JarJar)The two of you...are the last of the Jedi Order...later, ObiWan can fight BOTH a digitally inserted JarJar and Darth at the same time in a two-on-one fight like in Ep 1. Etc, Etc, the possibilities are endless...
But he shouldn't be surprised if the audience does not accept the revised work
Oh yeah, how much do you want to bet that these DVDs with new footage will sell like hotcackes ?
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You know, I hear that if you cross the International Date Line thrice, backwards, at the equator, and then find the proper site in Taiwan, you can get a copy of Episode 3 before Lucas has a chance to mess it up...
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Here is my addition to those scripts:
don't touch the original trilogy, write a new script and do episodes 7, 8 and 9.
american director are too lazy when it comes to stories: sequels and re-make.
I thought Jar Jar dies in Ep III. Maybe now he is just lobotamized and he forgets to shave. No more "Meesa please", just growls and undiscernable barks. Jar Jar is dead, long live Jar Jar!
-Sean
At least this opens the possibility that Lucas could redo Episode I.
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Lucas wants to erase the cultural memory that the first film was good, the second better, and it all went into the toilet after that.
Having learned from the previous Special Editions that it is possible to make a good film worse, he will now bring all the films to the same level of quality, thus shutting down any future debates over which movies were worse than the others.
Unfortunately, his benchmark for quality seems to be that late-70's made-for-TV Wookie holiday special.
Besides, re-editing the original films could make them better, you know (it worked for the video/cable release of Battlefield Earth. Right?)
May I suggest a change of motto?
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Once done with all 6 edisodes, he would go back and make themed versions. Say, replace the Ewoks with Cabbage Patch kids! Or switch the Gungans with the stormtroopers. R rated version with topless Portman and Fisher (maybe even in the same scene!). Star Wars: The Celebrity Version- latest boy band as Jedis, latest girl singer as lead female, couple of rappers as bad guys, etc. My favorite switch would be to switch Admiral Ackbar with Captain Picard, but leave the voice the same.
On topic- Lucas has always said he thinks of movies as never being done, they are abandoned. Though I think one can end up tinkering too much and screwing up (Jedi's new end song didn't do it for me).
Vote monkeys into Congress. They are cheaper and more trustworthy.
with new integrated scenses - they're part of the script, they can't be removed.
Jar-Jar sure aint "UNIVERSALLY" reviled. .
Hasn't anyone seen the Simpsons episode where the comic store clerk goes to sleep with a life-sized Jar-Jar doll saying "Oh Jar-Jar, no one loves you but me..."
Groening couldn't have been more correct there...
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Maybe Lucas is taking a marketting note from P-Diddy et.al. and is going to just start releasing "re-mix" movies...
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The movies are the sole intellectual property of GEORGE LUCAS. They do not belong to you. They do not belong to the fans. They do not belong to the merchandisers. They belong to LucasFilm, which in turn belongs to George Lucas.
These six movies are a saga. They tell a long, complex story with lots of twists and turns. When Lucas comes up with what he thinks is a good idea, he puts it in the mix. If he has to change a couple of things around to fit it in, he does. Big deal. It's not like he's going to change his mind on Darth Vader being Luke's father.
He can do whatever he wants with his movies, and personally I think he's doing a fantastic job. All six movies will fit together as a cohesive whole when it's all said and done.
This ain't Shakespeare, folks. Even Tolkien went back and corrected some continuity problems after LotR was published. So get over it.
I wish I couldn't remember anything form the first trilogy either!
Seriously, though ... it reminds me of one of the Chritopher Reeve Superman movies, where Superman erases Lois' memory, so she won't know for the sequel. Stupid then, stupid now.
George, why couldn't you have died in the 80s and left us imagining how great the movies could have been?
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
... this is not the special edition your looking for - move along.
there are several possibilities here:
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I'm thinking more along the lines of Street Fighter 2
Star Wars
Star Wars Special Edition
Star Wars Turbo
Star Wars Turbo Champions Edition
Super Star Wars Turbo
Let's not forget the hacked Japanese imports where Luke Skywalker does two fireballs that move in a sine-wave pattern.
Repeat the above with Star Wars Alpha.
Claric
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Personally, I don't care what he does to his movie. The sad part for me is that all the work done on restoring footage and reworking original soundtracks is all thrown into these modified special editions. The _original_ films now only exist as worn VHS tapes. The first special editions were different; not necessarily better, but different. Any further rounds of modification will be different still.
It's sad that the original films have become lost to consumers, and presumably will stay lost. How about if he releases the original, restored (but unaltered) movies on DVD first. Then he's free to add Jar Jar, Natalie Portman, Samuel Jackson, Matt LeBlanc or whoever the hell else he wants to Episodes IV-VI.
Yoda tells Luke that he trained Vader, that Vader was his student when so far that doesn't seem to be the case.
My only problem is that I think some of Eps II that hit the cutting room floor and the short span of digital recording time made the actors seem horrible.
If things get inserted smoothly and correct then it's okay.
Maybe she isn't a ghost, maybe she talks to them and they don't know it or something... she's underground?
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AICN also reported a wild rumor that the reviled computer-animated character Jar Jar Binks may wind up in a new, revised version of Episode IV.
In this version, Han does shoot Greedo first, but misses and hits Jar Jar, causing the Gungan to explode into pixelated goo.
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Am I the only one who doesn't find her beautiful? I mean she's just your average girl. There's nothing extraordinary about her looks.
When Star Tours first hit Disneyland, I thought it was a great idea, since the big hype was the ability to change films and freshen up the ride regularly. Well, it's been something like ten years and the ride is dusty, poorly maintained, and they still haven't tried to put a new film in the thing. If it takes having the shuttle land on top of Jar Jar to freshen up what's otherwise a great ride, so be it. It is a shame, though, that they (Disney/Lucus) has this ability to change out the films and they never bothered with it.
"Prepare for the worst - hope for the best."
Here's an idea.
Remember the scene where Greedo confronts Han in the cantena. Now we all know that in the original Star Wars, Han shoots first, but for the "special edition", Greedo shoots first, and his shot hits the wall next to Han.
Imagine Jar Jar sitting next to Han. Greedo shoots first, blowing Jar Jar's head off. Han shoots second, killing Greedo.
Everyone wins.
Maybe in Episode 6, we could see Qui-Gonn Jinn's ghost next to Yoda, Obi-Wan and Anakin.
There might be a discrepancy, as I hear in the books that the ghost fades away into the force years later, Qui-Gonn might be too late...
The source is Harry Knowles at Aint It Cool News. We already had this debate. Harry has become(literally) a big fat troll who is far more concerned with having his jumbo sized ego stroked by Hollywood than with anything so trite as objectivity or accuracy. He'd happily report that Jar Jar skullfucks Aunt Beru if he thought it'd buy him another ounce of mystique and geek cachet.
These aren't the spoilers you're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along.
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Now that people can make there "personal edits" on their home PCs (as several did the SW:TPM) using iMovie and the like, its only a matter of time before all six movies are cut together. You could rearange to your hearts content. Some ideas:
(1) A collage of all the space and land chase scenes.
(2) A collage of all the light saber battles.
(3) Put all the character development in temproral order, though you may be hard pressed to assemble more than 15 minutes of this.
(4) A tour of the star wars planets.
(5) A tour of the star wars races.
(6) A documentary on Jedi history.
(7) A remake of Dune, since Lucas borrowed heavily from Herbert.
Let's face it, the moment "Attack of the Clones" hits the video market someone's going to be chopping out the annoying C-3PO "comedy" bits. Any changes that Lucas makes to the originals will find themselves weeded out just as quickly by the die-hard fans. Along those lines, I'd like to be the first to suggest the naming scheme for the impending fan edits:
Episode I: The Phantom Edit
Epidose II: Attack of the Edit
Episode III: TBA
Episode IV: A New Edit
Episode V: The Edit Strikes Back
Episode VI: The Return of the Edit
And of course Portman is going to end up a glowing ghost beside Anakin, Obi-Wan and the little green dude. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if Lucas digitally inserts (a suitably make-up aged) Hayden Christensen instead of the guy who's playing Anakin now. Long story short--don't worry about it. The technology is there and the devout Star Wars afficiandos (you know, the guys who make their own vacuum-formed stormtrooper armour?) will have a definitive FAN-tastic version circulating out on the Net before you know it.
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You probably heard this one before. Just to be sure for those who haven't heard it... According to Dark Horizons news (5/29/2002), it said:
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Star Wars: Episode VII: After recent speculation based on what sounded like a misinterpreted quote, George Lucas has finally and clearly ruled out further adventures after 'Jedi'. Lucas told Infobeat that he had PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED the idea but has since canned it totally - "I thought it might be fun to bring Carrie (Fisher) and Mark (Hammill) and Harrison (Ford) back when they're 65 and make another movie with them. But I'm going to be over 60 when I finish this and it takes 10 years to do a trilogy. I'm not going to spend my last 10 years doing Star Wars".
I am fine with the six movies.
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...What makes Natalie Portman so "hot."
She's not, IMHO, as gorgeous as everyone makes her out to be. She has "Girl next door" appeal. That's about it. They ruined that by making her wear gratuitously and pointlessly slutty outfits in the film, instead of adding something to the feel of the movie by dressing her as the dignitary she supposedly is.
Besides, being attractive doesn't make up for being terrible at acting. Her performance in Episode 2 was wooden, at best.
Jar-Jar and Bail Organa looking up at the ominous new star in the heavens.
Jar-Jar: "Issa thata new moona, Bail Organa?"
CUT TO Death Star interior as the Planet Pulverizer(TM) fires and hits Alderaan.
CUT TO Jar-Jar binks being hidiously vaporized on Alderaan in a cruel twist of fate for giving the empire its power.
So you see, people, it might not be that bad...
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I guess we'll all have to run out and buy "Star Wars: A New Hope, Extra-Special Edition, Director's Cut". How many versions of the film are there now?
Something's getting inserted somewhere all right.
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Here folks is a big argument for shorter term copyrights. George Lucas can now go back and alter the original Start Wars to include a major nude scene with Jar Jar, and then cease distribution of the older untouched edition. Eventually that original version will cease to be with no efforts to maintain it and archive it properly.
If copyright was for a shorter period, the original star wars could be restored from existing copies and maintained. As it is now, large pieces of our cultural history can be easily left to decay on the cutting room floor because of the whims of the copyright owner, who in many cases is no longer the person that actually produced the work.
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That was never in the plans, even back in the seventies. Ain't gonna happen.
Now, all we need is a CGI Peter Cushing with a CGI Lucas beard and flannel shirt. . . .
Hell the "special effects" from the first three (IV, V and VI) are much better then the tripe that he's churning out now. Models make a much more real and gritty world, then the shiny silver spaceships he's using now. You don't suffer from the it's too clean to be in the picture obnoxious effect that CGI tends to have. That and models (the Rancor) tend to move correctly or at least better then computer models.
I don't know if George Lucas would want to do this, but what if the DVD had all three versions (or at least the original and the newest with both sets of new stuff)? That way, our beloved original is not lost, but there's some fun added stuff.
Would there be any harm in doing this?
mark
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I can tolerate this on the condition that Lucas allows viewers to see the DVD in one of two ways: the original, unadulterated version and the "special/flashback" edition. As long as I have a choice about skipping the retconned scenes, I'll not complain.
Portman? OK, instead of inserting her into old movies, how about inserting her into my home? What a frickin' hottie.
I don't see how it can be done. The first movies were futurama, presumably when Portmans character would be well aged...unless there is to be some sort of flashback stuff or goofy "the force" ghost stuff with a hot young Portman spook (ala the dead Obi-Wan and recently deceased Darth).
As for Jar-Jar. If this thing makes it into anything else Star Warzy, then it will be due to Lucas demonstrating a true loss of touch with reality. I'd say this would prove beyond doubt that his creativity ended with the first trilogy and Alzhiemer's or presenile dementia has kicked in.
Jar-Jar is the pinnacle of nasti-stupid characters created by Lucas. The other members of the STUPID-Ass, childish (OVERLY childish) characters would be the ridiculous Ewoks and then a just-out-of-diapers Anakin in Episode 1. Talk about foresaking real people that are past wearing poopie diapers and pandering to the Romper Room crowd.
Hey Lucas, quite aiming at the Goo-goo-gaa-gaa set and aim HIGHER. Go no lower than the mid-teens (but skip the teen-beloved farting and barfing humor).
Infants are not a worthy market but that seems to be all you shoot for - of course, they are the easiest to please and require the least amount of talent to amuse...
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I don't plan on getting one. My dvd player is way better, except that it won't play the old star wars videos (since they are on VHS). I guess that the responce to that is well, "buy a VCR you looser", but I don't want to so I guess I'll just have to deal with the new version on DVD, if I decide to buy it at all since I liked the original more then any of the newer versions. The new special edition wasn't that much better, and who knows about the as yet unreleased version. I'm not HC enough of a fan to get upset about this, but it would be nice if Lucas decided to stop changing things.
If he really thinks that the movie should be changed, maybe he should just redo it then. It's not like it would be that expensive to redo, just time consuming.
He believes in digital actors, just get the guys who did FF the movie to redo it with the original cast looking like they did 25 years ago. They are all still alive so they could redo the voices if lucas wanted to record a new soundtrack as well. (Or just reuse the old one... hehehe) But I digress.
Portman will probably just be stuck in as a 'ghost' at the end of ep4: return of the jedi, along with Aninken, Obiwan, and Yoda. Its probably not going to be a big deal.
Otoh... puttting Jar jar in ANH? That just seems like a slap in the face...
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Ah, but will it be possible for me to edit years 21 and 22 out of my life retroactively?
-jeff
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Many (not all) of us *do* want general freedom to modify the original films in this manner.
We also want to have the choice of retaining the film in its original presentation.
Lucas seems bent on changing the "Star Wars" movies a bit more with every major release so that the only way to get the original films may one day be to buy the VHS copies on eBay somewhere.
Pfah to that. Not *everyone* wants to see the films "enhanced" with new footage, and I'd like to have the choice of not seeing it when I watch the film.
My brother was really into collecting movies before the advent of DVD, and somewhere along the line he grabbed laserdisc copies of The Star Wars trilogy. It's an awesome set, not the special edition. Not upgraded. If the non-special-edition movies aren't released on DVD, I'm really tempted to make a DVD copy of this set for my own use.
Would it be legal since I already own the trilogy on VHS? Would it be legal for me to make a copy for a friend that owns the trilogy on VHS?
Hate to break it to you pal, but this whole Star Wars story...
It's ___FICTION___!!!!!!!
It didn't really happen long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away...
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If Lucas is really out to tie up every loose end, then Star Wars will literally be a work in progress forever. To these ends, maybe Lucas should model Star Wars on .NET. You could buy a Star Wars subscription and every quarter you will be sent a SWAN (Star Wars addict Network) DVD pack, consisting of all 6 episodes with the latest patches and service packs applied, which fix plot and continuity errors. The first service pack will address why in the 10 years between TPM and AOTC, the Jedi/republic/Naboo did not buy Anakin's mom's freedom, especially after he saved Naboo.
I am told that the "Nancy Drew" books are (or once were) constantly being revised and updated to appeal to the current generation of readers.
For example, some of the earlier ones were supposedly downright offensive to modern sensibilities w.r.t. how African American characters were treated (think pre-WWII movies and use your imagination).
I'm not saying that this is right, or a good idea. Just that Lucas wouldn't be the first.
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So, to bring us back to the topic at hand: I support Lucas' right to do whatevery he wants with his own movies. But in the case of the Holy Trilogy, I wish he'd refrain, and leave them just as they are. (Or give us the option to view the old versions.)
I would feel the same way if I had the *choice* to get the original versions on dvd. I doubt that is what will happen though, as I don't think you can even get the orginal vhs versions anymore.
Somewhere at home I have the original star wars novel, as written by George Lucas, and in there somewhere I swear that 3po mentions that he used to belong to Darth Vader.
I remember when I read it going "huh???" but now it all makes sense - except the memory erasure.
Actually, if you read up on kendo, which is what the lightsaber styles of the first three movies are based on, you'll see that Kenobi's skills have improved to the point that he realizes that jumping around and swinging is useless. He's 'fighting for center.' But some of his brash recklessness shows through with the spin cuts. Watch him in TPM, and you'll see a poor fighter. "Hey, I've got an idea, I'll adopt a guard stance that involves holding a glowing rod right in front of my eyes!"
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After much searching on the internet.... 50 links and various popup ads I have found the source of the Rumor. it's....... Jon Katz
Anybody whose read his last couple of articles ( hey, just being subjective here ) would agree there's definite motive for this kind of rumor.
My bet is that Anakin kills Dooku meaning to do good but ends up taking his place by Palpatines side.
You know, the old "good intentions gone bad" plot...
It would fit Palpatines caracter well too, remember that he later tries the same trick on Luke. Geting him to kill Anakin and take his place.
As for Windu, he will probably be killed of in a down and dirty backstabbing (maybe even physically by Palpatine himself), or die last in a glorious "last stand of the Jedi" against Palpatines clone troopers. Personally I would like the former better, but I don't think Lucas can resist the "last stand" cliche.
Joda will not kill anyone. It would be out of caracter for the "wise sensei"-type.
Remember, Lucas is big on classic story themes, and the three I mentioned are common. Just check out any Greek tragedy or Shakespear play.
Just my 0.02 kr...
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George, why couldn't you have died in the 80s and left us imagining how great the movies could have been ?
Wow, talk about being a totally lifeless loser ! Whishing somebody had died so his view of a movie wouldn't be screwed up. Oh man !
How about this ? Don't see the new movies and the new releases, I'm sure you can buy tapes of the orinal movies and watch them all day so your world is not shattered !
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So now every year or two you'll have to patch Star Wars to keep it current. SP1 will patch inconsistancies with caracter's memories, age, and correct lightsaber colors!
The original movie has been out for 25 years, now.
It makes sense to actually do a complete remake of it, in the hope that it will breathe new life into the story, and appeal to a new generation.
If the remake sucks, well... we still have the original.
Get off my launchpad!
Maybe he will also change the scene at the begining of ANH where Obi Wan tells Luke he had never seen that droid before:
LUKE: Then the droid does belong to you.
BEN: Don't seem to remember ever owning a droid. Very interesting...
Exactly ... I bought one set of tapes ("never to be released again"), only to have the version with Jabba the Hut added to "Episode IV" come out one month later. The only Star Wars item I'd even consider buying at this point is a bootleg of the Christmas Special .....
Back in 1977, right after Star Wars became a huge hit, Lucas had said that he did indeed have the rest of the story more or less sketched out, and that he thought it would take 9 movies to do it. Heck, originally he wanted to put the entire Anakin cycle in ONE movie, but it was way too long. He wasn't expecting Star Wars to succeed, he just wanted to make a fun movie. Then it hit it big and he said, "Hmm..." Anyway, originally he thought it would take 9 movies, but a short while later he realized that he didn't have enough story for 9 -- 6 movies would do. Ever since then is the oft-repeated myth that there's going to be 3 more movies after Episode III finishes. If there are, it's not going to be part of the Anakin cycle (well, naturally, since Anakin dies in ROTJ).
I don't discount the possibility that there could be more Star Wars movies after Episode III, but I personally don't think Lucas will want to put out the effort. Remember, he's going to be 61 years old when Episode 3 comes out, and productions of this magnitude take a huge amount of effort. I suppose he could act in more of a supervisory role and let someone else handle more of the day-to-day duties, but, the question of Lucas' talent aside, would such movies FEEL like "Star Wars"? Hard to see, the future is. Not to mention the fact that the story arc would be more or less unrelated to Eps. 1-6, and we probably wouldn't have the same emotional attachments we've formed with the characters we already know.
It has occurred to me that an "interim" movie would be possible, something that takes place between episodes 3 and 4 (call it "Star Wars: Rise of the Empire" with no "Episode N" part) that bridges the 20-year gap... maybe giving some details of the Empire's atrocities, Luke and Leia's upbringings, maybe Han's background, etc. Just a thought of my own.
"Destroy science and religion. Science would re-emerge exactly the same; but not religion." - Penn Jillette, paraphrased
Oh, and calling Star Wars one of the most epic stories ever written is pathetic. Read some books for God's sake. Ever heard of The Illiad? The Odyssey? The Maha-Barata? Fucking BEOWULF, for God's sake! Get out more!
Am I the only one that's reading this thread and thinking 'It's like Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back' all over again!
"Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus."
From the home office in Anchorage, Alaska, the TOP TEN PLACES TO ADD JAR-JAR IN EPISODE 4:
10. Orbiting Tatooine in the opening scene.
9. Sweeping the hallway on the Princess' ship right before the stormtroopers cut through the door
8. In the first escape pod from the Princess' ship
7. Standing behind Obi-Wan at the bar
6. Under the table during Greedo and Han's conversation
5. Admiring the Millenium Falcon from the doorway just prior to its departure
4. Running a lemonade stand on Alderaan
3. Last (almost) through the blast doors
2. Porkins' co-pilot
..and the NUMBER ONE place for Jar-Jar in Episode 4:
1. In the exhaust shaft!
That explains a lot. R2 doesn't fly in episodes 4-6 because he forgot he can.
-Dave
Replace the Emperor hologram in Empire with one done by the current actor, Ian somethingorother.
Redub the Storm Trooper voices (and maybe even Boba Fett) using the new Clone Trooper/Jango voice.
In ANH, add some Senate scenes including where Palpatine disbands the body.
IN ROTJ, CGI in some Nemodians in the Emperor's entourage
> Sci-fi Wire is reporting a couple rumors
> about the changes being made to the
> original Star Wars trilogy for its next release.
> That being that Natalie Portman may be
> being inserted into Episode VI: Return of the
> Jedi and that universally reviled Jar Jar Binks
This sounds a lot like the complaining people made when they heard N' Sync (or whoever the hell they were) was supposed to be in Episode II. I don't remember seeing them there, and if they were, it certainly didn't affect how I enjoyed the flick.
Look, it's a movie, not the New Testament. If Lucas wants to change his movie -- it's his own decision.
I for one would like to see IV-VI touched up a bit when it hits DVD. First, replace the actor playing the Emperor in V with the guy who plays him in I, II, and VI. Second, digitally remove the puppets from the cantina scene in IV and the puppets in VI. Third, get rid of the ewoks.
Insert simplistic political, ideological, or personal proselytization here.
with new integrated scenses - they're part of the script, they can't be removed.
Yeah, and the last 35 minutes of the movie is just a BSOD.
Al Qaeda has ninjas!
I kinda wondered about that. I thought it would have been better if Williams just used the "evil bad guy" theme from ANH in Episode 2, and just a hint of the Imperial March at the end of the credits...
But I suppose changing ANH's score to include the march would work too. (:
Whoever stated that signature sizes should be limited to one hundred and twenty characters can just go ahead and kiss my
"Destroy science and religion. Science would re-emerge exactly the same; but not religion." - Penn Jillette, paraphrased
As I see, George Lucas is staring at a fundamental problem for his movies. Yes, his. They aren't mine, they aren't yours, they aren't even the MPAA's.
The problem is that Trilogy 1 (I-III) and Trilogy 2 (IV-VI) occur in substantially different parts of the galaxy, with substantially different characters. Episode I and II have featured politicians, the fucking amazing artistry that is Coruscant, the Jedi Order, battle droids, massive factory worlds. Episodes IV through IV feature mainly military men, on both sides, a lot of backwaters, a few rare Force-users...does anyone else see a glaring problem?
Let me first say, before this next section of my post, that Empire Strikes Back is my favorite of the series, followed by A New Hope and Attack of the Clones. But really, what there needs to be is something else tying the trilogies. Where is the galaxy from Episode II to be found in the original three? Nowhere. We never see Coruscant, or Naboo, or Kimono, Geneosis. Logically, we should see these places. The Emperor, such an important figure in the first three movies, is not even see until Episode VI, and is only hinted at before then. It was a good storytelling technique, until prequels that brought him to the forefront. These and many other issues need to be reconciled (if anything is to be changed at all, of course).
For those that skipped to the bottom, the creation of the new trilogy has made the point of view of the old trilogy problematic. There, I've said it.
~Chazzf
No statement is true, not even this one.
Not to mention the can-o'-whoopass count Dooku opens up on Obi One in AOTC.
He survives not one, but two lightsabre slashes. And not only survives, he is not even maimed, lucking out with only superficial cuts.
...as opposed to a certain sith-lord-in-training who experience a sudden 10kg weight loss trying to save Obi Wan's ass.
"First lesson," Jon said. "Stick them with the pointy end."
or star trek vs babalon 5
with 2 star wars characters in it.
Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
Do you want a spoiler?
You will die alone!
Episode IV: Jar Jar steps in Jawa poo.
Episode V: Jar Jar steps in Jabba the Hut's poo.
Episode VI: Jar Jar steps in Ewok poo.
I just think Lucas is trying to insert "poo" analogies in his films. Pretty soon, Vader will be re-dubbed to refer to his army of "stormpoopers". Han Solo will be encased in poop instead of carbonite, AT-ATs will step in poop, and and the climax of the saga will be when Vader gets unmasked, only to say "Poop, I am your faaaa-tha."
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INT: BESPIN GANTRY - MOMENTS LATER:
A furious lightsaber duel is underway. DARTH VADER is backing LUKE SKYWALKER towards the end of the gantry. A quick move by Vader, chops off Luke's hand! It goes spinning off into the ventilation shaft. Luke backs away. He looks around, but realizes there's nowhere to go but straight down.
Darth Vader: Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father.
Luke: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Darth Vader: No... I am your father!
Luke: No, it's not true! It's impossible.
Darth Vader: Search your feelings... you know it to be true...
Luke: NO!
Darth Vader: Yes, it is true... and you know what else? You know that brass droid of yours?
Luke: Threepio?
Darth Vader: Yes... Threepio... I built him... when I was 7 years old...
Luke: No...
Darth Vader: Seven years old? And what have you done? Look at yourself, no hand, no job, and couldn't even levitate your own ship out of the swamp...
Luke: I destroyed your precious Death Star!
Darth Vader: When you were 20! When I was 10, I single-handedly destroyed a Trade Federation Droid Control ship!
Luke: Well, it's not my fault...
Darth Vader: Oh, here we go... "Poor me... my father never gave me what I wanted for my birthday... boo hoo, my daddy's the Dark Lord of the Sith... waahhh wahhh!"
Luke: Shut up...
Darth Vader: You're a slacker! By the time I was your age, I had exterminated the Jedi knights!
Luke: I used to race my T-16 through Beggar's Canyon.
Darth Vader: Oh, for the love of the Emperor... 10 years old, winner of the Boonta Eve Open... Only human to ever fly a Pod Racer... right here, baby!
{Luke looks down the shaft. Takes a step towards it.}
Darth Vader: I was wrong... You're not my kid... I don't know whose you are, but you sure ain't mine...
{Luke takes a step off the platform, hesitates, then plunges down the shaft.}
{Darth Vader looks after him.}
Darth Vader: Get a haircut!
Gonzo Granzeau
"Nothing the god of biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for.." -Roy Batty
Kinda obvious that. The question is: who wiped Obi-Wan's memory of them?
Insanity is the last line of defence for the master diplomat. But you have to lay the groundwork early.
I just finished watching ANH recently, and something odd occurred to me. I can buy Lucas' contention that the 'droids' memories were wiped prior to ANH, but that doesn't account for the fact that Ben Kenobi seems not to recognize the droids at all when they find him in the Tatooine desert. This is despite the fact that he spent some very pivotal moments in galactic history with those two. Is Lucas going to alter Episode IV to make up for this apparent gaffe as well?
"No, no, no. Don't tug on that. You never know what it might be attached to."
At the end of the third film, when she's hiding Luke and Leia, she changes her name to from Padme Armidala to Mon Mothma.
Leader of the Opposition becomes Leader of the Resistance. And there's enough similarity in appearance between the two of them to pull it off.
There you go, she's in the films, no need for CGI-Inserts, retroactive continuity or re-releasing yet another special edition to try to beat ET's all time box office record.
No wonder Lucas didn't think of it
I just got an email from George Lucas himself, asking me what I think of his proposed outline for Episode III (he said his outline for II finished up a week after filming started, we all know what a disaster that was, so he's trying to get a headstart on III).
In III, it is 15 years later. The Clone Wars are in full swing. Chancellor Palpatine's "War on Secessionists" has killed many innocent people, but has failed to bring Count Dooku to justice.
Amidala has secretly had Anakin's love babies - while Anakin has been called away to fight the "War on Secessionists" with his side kick ObiWan.
Jar Jar accidentally flips the latch on Amidala's window in her high-rise as she leans on it to look out on the beatiful sunrise one morning (er - I wonder what Jar Jar was doing in Amidala's room in the early morning?). Anakin totally blows his top, and abandons his post, returning to Coruscant, he confronts Jar Jar, who admits that he was "doing" Amidala, and that Luke and Leia are really HIS. Anakin force-grabs Jar Jar, and lightsabers his arms and legs off, then shoves him out the same window, and before dropping him 5000 feet, tears his torso to shreds.
In the meantime, ObiWan is instructed by Yoda to NOT confront Anakin, but instead, to protect Luke and Leia from his growing rage. So ObiWan successfully evades Anakin on Coruscant, abducts the children, and spirits them off to Bail Organa's home planet of Alderaan. To have him adopt them as the Jedi's ace in the hole against the growing menace of their loose cannon, Anakin.
Anakin finds out and decides that the Jedi council is plotting against him, and needs to be destroyed. And so, he destroys them. Three escape. Yoda, Mace, and a new Jedi, Ell Ron Hubbardi played by John Travolta. A long hunting sequence plays out where Mace Windu and Ell Ron lead Anakin on a wild goose chase through the streets of Coruscant in a speeder, while Mace and Ell Ron philosophise about the meaning of life, the force, phenomenology, etc.
While they stop for food at a "Space Denny's", Mace goes to the bathroom, and Anakin finally catches up to Ell Ron, and uses the Jedi Mind Trick (TM) to convince him that Mace is evil and that they should destroy eachother. Mace comes out of the bathroom, and they have the lightsaber duel to end all lightsaber duels. Properly disposed of, Anakin now ignores the two and pursues Yoda. But by now, the trail is cold, and he ends up on Alderaan, looking for the kids, so he can destroy them. ObiWan finds him first, and they duel nearly to the death, and Anakin is plunged into a volcano.
Mace has destroyed Ell Ron Hubbardi, and it is in the remains of the shattered high-rise that was the Space Denny's that the emporer encounters him, all pissed off and shit. The emporer turns him to the dark side, and has him change his name to Darth Vader. The emporer says that he will tell everyone that Darth Vader is really Anakin, rescued from the Volcano, and rebuilt with off the shelf cyborg parts.
Yoda catches up with Obi Wan, and tells him that they've got to change plans a bit, because having BOTH twins on Alderaan is a single-point of failure, so Obi Wan takes Luke to Tatooine, and sells him as a slave for a cheap hooker. Luke is eventually sold through several owners, who decide to get rid of him as soon as they find out how much he whines, until he ends up in the same fate as his grandmother Shmi. Eventually, Owen comes to love Luke and sets him free, and even stops molesting him - but continues to keep him on as a farmhand. Yoda, in the meantime, has hidden himself on Dagobah.
Oh yeah, and one twist he wants to add.
The Space Denny's actually gathers roadkill from all around Coruscant. People who have fallen out of windows, or their speeder's seatbelts weren't fastened, etc. And grinds them up as mystery meat. So Mace and Ell Ron were actually eating bits of Amidala and Jar Jar. And when Anakin stopped to warp Ell Ron's mind, he also took a bite of Mace's hamburger, containing bits of Amidala. In this way, Amidala's body became part of the force, and this is the route through which she becomes a ghost at the end of the re-made episode VI. Also, they'll have to reshoot the scenes where Vader takes off his mask in Episode V and VI (and his ghost scene at the end of VI) to replace him with Windu. This is also how Jar Jar's ghost ends up in Episode IV, because he was eaten by Mace, who was Darth Vader. Jar Jar's ghost will be in the scene where Obi Wan is killed, he'll tell Luke; "Luke! Meesa tink yoosa better get a runnin boss" - but he won't admit to being his true father, because that would present an obvious continutiy error with Episode V. In fact, it will never be revealed to Luke who his real father is, and when he pulls off Vader's mask at the end and sees that it's Mace, he'll chalk up the skin color difference to volcanic scorching or something.
- - -
I'm not sure what to say to George. I mean, I think he sent it to me by mistake - I actually opened it by mistake, because the subject line was "Enlarge your penis 500%!" -
I think it's a great idea that hes getting a headstart, and I kind of like this better than where it looked like it was headed.
These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
I've spent more time than I like to think about defending Star Wars on Slashdot over the years, but if he puts Jar Jar in Episode IV, I'm going to drive out to Skywalker Ranch and throttle him with my bare hands.
Even the most die-hard Star Wars sucker has his limits.
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Unfortunately, Lucas won't stop at the Special Edition. After the release of Episode III ("Ani, Get Your Gungan") he plans to go back and further modify the original trilogy. Here are a few other of the rumored changes straight from the brain of one weird Fish. Special Special Edition (2008). * Jar Jar is digitally inserted into every scene in Ep4, Ep5, and Ep6. * Stormtroopers carry walkie-talkies instead of blasters. (Hey, they never hit anything important anyway.) * Luke's haircut is made presentable, but now he looks like "Hanson." * Ian McDiarmid replaces Clive Revill in the Emperor-hologram scene in Ep5, except now is a CGI construct less believeable than bikini pinups of Lara Croft. * Han Solo's Special Edition line, "It's all right, I can see a lot better now" is replaced with "It's all right, I never had hibernation sickness, I was only fooling." * Aunt Beru's looped lines are redubbed by Fran Drescher. * The sweeping John Williams asteroid theme is replaced by the music from the 1979 arcade game "Asteroids." Ultra Special Special Edition (2012) * Chewbacca is digitally removed from every shot and replaced with Jar Jar Binks. Han Solo's line "It's not wise to upset a Wookiee" is replaced with "It's not wise to upset a Gungan." * Footage is added of Imperial Academy forces being trained in weapons use by Don Knotts. * Digital lip-sync technology is used to change Luke's line "Nooo-ooo-ooo-oooooo!" into "Yippee!" * To make it more obvious that Senator/Chancellor Palpatine is really the Emperor in disguise, a set of Groucho glasses is added to every shot of the Emperor. To every shot of Palpatine is added a halo. * The Wampa Ice Creature is now a cameo role played by Shaquille O'Neal, complete with musical number and dancing girls in skimpy fur bikinis. The scene goes on tour as the "Wampa Ice Capades." * The entire John Williams score is scrapped and replaced with Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon." Some fanboys claim it fits with spooky synchronicity in certain scenes, usually after the imbibement of several non-prescription herbal remedies. Incredibly Special Ultra Re-release Special Special Edition (2025) * Jar Jar Binks is made a Jedi Knight. * Jar Jar Binks destroys the Death Star. * Jar Jar Binks is shown to be a cunning and foresighted adversary who allowed himself to be manipulated by Palpatine into proposing legislation to create the Imperial Army. Says Jar Jar in Episode 2, "Revenge of Jar Jar," "Nowsa meesa has a eeeevil Emperor where meesa want!" * Luke Skywalker is digitally erased from the picture and replaced with a member of the 2025 Swedish Bikini Team. * C-3PO is re-dubbed by Dennis Franz, who plays the Brooklyn-born Lt. Sipowicz from "NYPD Blue." * R2-D2 is given the BFG from Doom XII and goes on a rampage in Cloud City to rescue C-3PO's disconnected parts. * Han Solo no longer accidentally activates Boba Fett's jetpack to send him careening into the Sarlacc Pit. Instead, Han indicates that Boba Fett's shoe is untied, whereupon the bounty hunter looks down, trips over his own foot, shoots himself in the neck, gets tangled up in his own grappling hook cord, and says "D'oh!" a la Homer Simpson. Fett then windmills his arms wildly on the edge of the skiff, falls into a batch of wet cement, and explodes with near-nuclear force. Han Solo then quips, "The fool! He doesn't even have shoelaces." * Governor Tarkin, Han Solo, and Jabba the Hutt replaced with an aging Mike Myers doing Dr. Evil, Austin Powers, and Fat Bastard, respectively. The Ewoks are replaced with Mini-Mes.
/me waves a hand mysteriously.
You remember Jar Jar and Amidala in Episode 3.
I remember Jar Jar and Amidala in Episode 3.
You cried when you were 10 and you saw Jar Jar die.
I cried when I was 10 and I saw Jar Jar die.
You love Jar Jar and will buy merchandise.
I love Jar Jar and will buy merchandise.
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Lucas wanted 'Phantom Menace' scale from the beginning, but he couldn't have it. From space battles to interiors, his budget spelled out constraints on sets, on effects: Mos Eisley spaceport was like 20 feet of wall, Cloud City was several lengths of corridor, in-fighter reaction shots were restricted to extreme close-ups with little or no external views visible: the budget and the technology was hugely restrictive.
Through this limitation, Lucas produced BIG, CLEAR images that 'read' instantly, delivered the relevant story points without a single wasted visual element, and MOVED... both in the sense of a violent through-frame motion, and in terms of not lingering for a single wasted second over the effect as effect, but slamming past it to the next scene for a sense of headlong motion in terms of sheer film.
And all the time, he only wanted to make 'Ben Hur' with droids- pull the camera back, linger and ogle the worlds of his fantasy.
Well, now he can. And it sucks. And I'm taking good care of my old VHS tapes and pray they don't come to harm- because THAT was what made Lucas's legend. It's not what he wanted- that's boring. Cast of thousands, millions of worlds, billions of extras is boring. The synergy between this desire and the constraints of reality produced incredibly vivid, up-front, aggressive film, all because Lucas constantly wanted to cover up his failure to truly accomplish what HE wanted to see.
I hope there are 70mm (even 35mm) prints out there of the original films, being stored safely, because Lucas is the worst possible saboteur of his own filmed legacy- not through selling out, but through trying to realize the actually-boring ambitions he'd had from the start.
I'm so sick and tired of people associating success with talent. Success is driven by a huge number of variables - talent is just one of them. Brittany Spears is successful too - would you iconize her? Give me a break. In Lucas' defence, he did do a couple of good early films(THX and American Grafitti were good), so I think he was a capable director, even smart on occasion. However, he took that long hiatus from films for a reason - he hates doing it. Do you do a good job on things you hate? Over the last 30 years he's lost whatever directing and writing talent he had. Pathetic dialog, childish scenes, stunningly derivative visuals - you have the nerve to call his visual sense "amazing"?! Here's the films he visually stole from for AOTC - The Fifth Element(city car chase), Blade Runner(same sequence, when they come down to the bar), Waterworld/Dune(the hidden cloning planet), Gladiator(the arena scene), and Starship Troopers(the final apocalyptic battle scenes).
There were indeed some mighty fine FX sequences done for this movie. It was a BAD film, however. It was bad because it was written and directed poorly - I know MacGregor, Lee and Jackson can act(although the lead was another issue!), so there's only two people you can blame - the writer or the director. Hmmm...who was that?
And give me a break on the "visionary" stuff. If he hadn't made all the money he had in his early years(off American Grafitti and SW), then he would have gone bust after a year and no-one would have heard of him again. It was throwing more and more money at ILM that kept it going. If he hadn't of done it, then someone else would have. Period. Why do so many people worship money? There are hundreds, nay thousands of people over history that just kept pouring more and more money after something they thought was "neat". Some ended up being successful, and are "visionaries". Others died penniless and are "losers".
You'd think the average Slashdotter would have a little less respect for corporate sucess as a measure of quality.
DT
When they had no money, the quality was "better". As they progressively get more money, quality dives, to the point of purposefully going back and wrecking the few things they did have right in order to increase profits. Imagine Star wars Episode IV version 3.1B... if they had to re-release the movie 5 or 6 times to make all the necessary adjustments for the series to actually flow together. Imagine Star Wars controlling 45% of the movie market, fighting off monopoly lawsuits left and right, and a director that owns an island somewhere in a galaxy far far away...
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"[C-3P0's] memory system has been erased, and so has R2's," Lucas told the site. "So they don't remember anything from the first trilogy. I'm telling you something from Episode III, but I shouldn't be telling you that, but I think most of the fans already know that."
What about Owen Lars?!?!?! He apparently worked with a droid named C-3PO for a few years and then doesn't recognize him 20 years later wtf???
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So, let me get this straight, not only is Lucas destroying the Star Wars legacy by the laughable Ep I and II (though Ep III may be better if he doesn't fuck up Darth Vader), but now, he's also going to destroy the original Star Wars by "redoing it"? This is turning into a more shameless franchise than Jaws was. And you don't see Spielbeg, now, more than a decade later, going back and trying to squeeze more money out of Jaws, do you? No. He certainly could justify it -- after all, modern special effects could make it look realistic by today's standards. But, because he has some class, he's chosen not to fuck with a good thing.
Lucas, however, displays no such class.
Star Wars IV - VI were brilliant, great movies. But lets face it, Lucas was a 3-hit wonder. What other movies has Lucas made that are worth watching? Certainly not Star Wars I or II.
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True story: the original plan was to have an extended fight between the scimitar waving guy and Indy.
Problem was, they filmed it outside the USA. American + bad water in third world = health problems.
Apparently our Harry was on the set, creased over with an apparently critical impending fit of near-fatal diarrhoea.
So, everyone's like, "OK, ready to shoot the extended very physical scene we rehearsed in LA?" and Harry's got a case of quivering sphincter that's about to hit Defcon III. So he walks up to the stunt monkey and says "look, do me a favour, no matter what happens, just play along." So they yell "Action" and Harrison pulls the gun, fires, the other guy drops, the director yells "CUT!" and Harrison takes off for the john at Mach 4.
Turns out, they loved the ad-lib when they watched the rushes, and chose not to reschedule the scene. Just think, if it wasn't for intestinal parasites and Montezuma's revenge, that scene would never have been.
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I think you're way off base. That should be "bloated meglomanic and the huge, critical fanbase that throws money at him."
Which really makes it all the more interesting.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I disagree- if you look at Kenobi's face when he tells Luke about the death of his father (in the scene in Ben's hut) he looks like he is hiding something. Watch it again, you'll see what I mean.
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Every time you release an altered version of a previously copyrighted work, you can claim a NEW copyright. So if ANH gets re-edited and re-released in 2002, it gets a fresh copyright date -- 2002 -- without having to actually be a new work from scratch.
I'm not sure of the legal standing of this wrt to the original version, but for practical purposes it's probably effective as a method to extend copyright forever.
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The motivation was to create a slapstick character that would appeal to very small children, people who are stoned, and the Japanese.
Someone should get Jar Jar a role on the Teletubbies, that would be perfect.
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Actually, I'm suggesting just that. I was deeply disturbed by the lack of using the force to do ANYTHING in TPM and ATOC. I think that in Episode 3, you'll see Kenobi finally defeat Dooku.
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You're way off. Episode I takes place 32 years before A New Hope; Episode II, 22 years; Episode III, 20. Adding 50 years would put you somewhere around the Corellian Trilogy or the Hand of Thrawn Duology.
Excuse me for going fanboy here, but this is in a "Galaxy far far away". Who says the completely identical to humans but not actually humans people age at the same rate we do. And if there is a technology level akin to our current level, there is no real reason to have them age at all. But that is another rant for another time in a non-George Lucas / meta-fucked retcon universe.
"Face it, a nation that maintains a 72% approval rating on George W. Bush is a nation with a very loose grip on reality.
Obi-wan, with pregnant Padme in tow, is running away from a pre-armored Darth Vader. Jar-Jar's optimism, and just general childishness, comes into play and he tries to talk, Gungan to man, to Vader...and Vader cuts him down in cold blood. I think, once the next movie is over, we will all be thankful that TPM was as light as it was...
My predictions for added scenes/shots? Bail Organa (Jimmy Smits) on Alderaan just before it is destroyed, and Qui-gon Jinn being dropped into the end of ROTJ alongside Anakin, Yoda and Obi-wan.
When will they be released? I suspect 2007, the 30th anniversary of the first movie. I can see TPM in February, AOTC in March, III in April, ANH in May (the true 30th ann.), ESB in June, ROTJ in July. Then the full set, at least two discs per movie (plus two or three bonus discs) released in a DVD box set in October or November of 2007.
And then, I think, that will be it. Lucas will move on to other things and the stories will be done...
Look. These are rumours, which originate on Aint It Cool News - or as an SF journalist of my acquaintance calls it, "Ain't It Complete Shit Harry Just Made Up".
Talk to me when the DVDs are actually released...
"Information wants to be paid"
George Lucas should NOT be allowed to write dialogue (deeply, truly love you), or direct actors, ever again. It's the worst part of the last 2 movies. He doesn't know how to make us care about these people.
The only really good acting was from Count Sarumann, uh, Dooku, and that was mainly the result of Christopher Lee playing himself. I really expected him to point at Anakin and spin him around, just off the ground.
I love Samuel L. Jackson, but it's been 2 movies in a row where he hasn't had ANY dialogue to work with.
I know I'm posting way late and I know there is no hope for modding up but I had to comment on the error in this post, to wit: The _original_ films now only exist as worn VHS tapes. You are most incorrect as they also exist in digital form via LaserDisc and I for one am very happy I have all three in their unedited, unchanged, unaltered format.
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YES! This is the one and only way I would like to see Jar-Jar added to "A New Home."
Burn the &(*$ to a crisp. YES! DIE JAR-JAR DIE!
www.audible.com has an interview with Lucas (Robin Williams conducts the interview) in the "free" section where he talks about why Jar-Jar is so hated. He snorts and says "Fans don't like comic side kicks. They hated C3PO and they hated Yoda." He makes it pretty clear that he sees the Jar-Jar haters as being low life scum unworthy of licking the bantha dung off his shoe.
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You seem to have had a raw nerve hit. You know, abusers and abusees may have found that comment offensive. Just as alcoholics find beer in their face offensive. But you need to realize that it is *you* with the problem, not everyone else. If that post made your hair stand up straight, you need to take some time to think about why.
You have issues buddy.
Go seek professional psychiatric assistance immediately.
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Now watch tapes of the original version of the trilogy shoot up to $200 on eBay.
That's the point-- I don't have to. I own them. I saw them, I wanted them, I got them, and now I don't need to worry about changes. I hear a random song I like on the radio, I get a copy before the remix is the only version available or the band fades from view.
Those people who wanted the original version and always assumed they'd have it available to them are the ones that are at fault here. Not Lucas, who has every right to release whatever version he'd like, or not disseminate something that he has a copyright to. Someday the copyright is supposed to end and this will all be public domain, and then it will be freely available. Until then, if you want indefinite access to something that could potentially be altered, it's your own responsibility to go ensure that you'll have it.
Maybe that means either buying a copy of something you enjoy and will want to see/hear/experience in the future, or buying a VCR and taping it from tv.
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I'd rather it had a scene with you in your Chewbacca costume. For some reason, I can't get that image out of my head, and it's deeply disturbing me.
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