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FBI Arrests 4 College Interns For Stealing Lunar Materials

An anonymous reader "Today, the fourth member of a group of college interns working at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston turned herself in after being charged with conspiracy to steal government property. Click2Houston.com has an article with a video feed covering many details of the case. Apparently, three of the alleged theives went to Florida and tried to sell, online, the 5 oz. of moon rocks and meteorite material they lugged out of the JSC in a 600lb case. Here's another article from the Houston Chronicle."

289 comments

  1. What did they expect.. by Chicane-UK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And they didn't expect to get caught? I might understand if they were trying to sell a harddrive they had stolen from work, or a 2nd hand base unit they had sneaked out. But a few hundred pounds of moonrock are sure to be noticed, especially when you sell em on eBay!

    They deserve to get caught..

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    1. Re:What did they expect.. by Ignavus+Anonymous · · Score: 2, Funny

      We're lucky that they weren't planning any terrorist activities with the rocks!

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    2. Re:What did they expect.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they died while trying to sell the stones, they might as well be awarded a DarwinAward! [http://www.darwinawards.com/] ...yes, mod it down to Redundant.

    3. Re:What did they expect.. by Subcarrier · · Score: 3, Funny

      But a few hundred pounds of moonrock are sure to be noticed, especially when you sell em on eBay!

      You would be surprised, the kind of ideas you come up with after consuming a gallon of moonshine with your friends.

      "Hic! Man, this rocks! Show me the money! SHOW! ME! THE! MONEY!"

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    4. Re:What did they expect.. by RTFA+Man · · Score: -1

      RTFA. 5 ounces.

    5. Re:What did they expect.. by Mr+Guy · · Score: 2

      Well, they aren't rocket scientists.

      Ba dum bum CHING.

    6. Re:What did they expect.. by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 1, Funny

      They were going too! I head they were just a stones throw away from... oh nevemind.

    7. Re:What did they expect.. by WinDoze · · Score: 2

      It's amazing what people will go through just to get their rocks off.

    8. Re:What did they expect.. by Prizm · · Score: 1

      So how did these kids get this internship anyway? Must be their good interviewing skills. I applied for the same internship, only to get told "We're sorry but we can't offer you an internship at this time, but we'll keep your resume on file for the next 6 months...".

      Now they're wishing they had chosen me!

    9. Re:What did they expect.. by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      The first three -- Thad, Tiffany, and Gordon -- sound like just plain bad influence. Sorta sucks for Shae -- she's by far the youngest of the three and working as an intern there, and turned herself in.

      My guess -- three idiots think they can run off with hundreds of thousands of high-profile goods, and now the fourth is screwed for life for letting them pull it off.

    10. Re:What did they expect.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A new case for "World's Dummest Criminals"...

    11. Re:What did they expect.. by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      Parent is modded insightful? Compare quotes, please.

      > > and tried to sell, online, the 5 oz. of moon
      > > rocks
      >
      > But a few hundred pounds of moonrock are sure
      > to be noticed

      Apparently, a few hundred pounds are noticed even when they're not in the article. (sigh)

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    12. Re:What did they expect.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that has been pointed out more than enough times now thanks.

    13. Re:What did they expect.. by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 2
      Well, they aren't rocket scientists.

      Well, one of them is apparently pretty close...

      # Shae Lynn Saur, NASA intern, Age: 19, Worked in Structural Engineering with Thermal Design. Worked last summer in the X-38 program. Pursuing a B.S. in engineering from Lamar University.
      In any case, there's a big difference between intelligence and wisdom. Remember that Wernher Von Braun was (from what I've heard) pretty brilliant (and probably the reference for the 'rocket scientist' references.. Nontheless, he worked for Hitler in WW2. He either liked what Hitler was up to, or he didn't care enough to slow down his rocket research on the V1 and V2 rockets.
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  2. Elegy for *BSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I am a *BSD user
    and I try hard to be brave
    That is a tall order
    *BSD's foot is in the grave.

    I tap at my toy keyboard
    and whistle a cheerful tune
    but keeping happy is so hard,
    *BSD will be dead real soon.

    Each day I wake and softly sob
    Nightfall finds me crying
    Not only am I a zit faced slob
    but *BSD is dying.
  3. The dark side of the moon... by lfourrier · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...brings no
    money.

    sorry for the youngs here. A long time ago, there was some band named Pink Floyd...

    1. Re:The dark side of the moon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      There is no dark side in the moon really.
      In another fact its all dark.

      (for the insiders :))

    2. Re:The dark side of the moon... by H3XA · · Score: 1

      so where is the USA hiding the secret alien research moon base then ??? ...... or are you a MIB denying the existence of ali.. **FLASH** huh? where am I? Why do I feel like hugging a penguin?

      - HeXa

    3. Re:The dark side of the moon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      aaaugh.
      (from the uber insider)

      there is no dark side of the moon, really
      matter of fact it's all dark

    4. Re:The dark side of the moon... by bpfinn · · Score: 1, Funny

      They have become....comfortably dumb.

    5. Re:The dark side of the moon... by chamenos · · Score: 1

      "or are you a MIB denying the existence of ali.."

      no he didn't; everyone knows ali g is in da house.

    6. Re:The dark side of the moon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dont mind the others.
      they are just annother brick in the wall.

      Stirge

  4. ATTN: Debian Gnu Linux 3.0 has been released... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Debian GNU/Linux v3.0 has been released.
    Here are the news bytes and the Release notes

  5. In other news by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

    ... 4 more interns at JSC have been caught trying to steal the Space Shuttle.

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    1. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they could steal you a sense of humour too.

    2. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      And how about I bust a nutt in your eye cockfucker?

    3. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no!! Well, at least they were stopped, but where will that accursed Carmen Sandiego and her gang strike again??

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  7. Should have sold... by __aadhrk6380 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The rocks in their heads, instead.

    1. Re:Should have sold... by ckedge · · Score: 1

      Bah! Clearly those rocks are worthless!

  8. if it was communism... by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 0

    they would have gotten away with it.

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    1. Re:if it was communism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have anything by which to qualify that statement? And are you on some kind of "posting-unfunny-things"-spree?

  9. The -REAL- conspiracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is the cover-up of the fact that NASA stole them first from the inhabitants of the moon.
    I had the retaining wall in my garden knocked over, parts of it stolen,
    and they left kind of striped flag on my front porch.

    1. Re:The -REAL- conspiracy by eam · · Score: 1

      What are you bitching about? We gave you a great little car.

  10. Size matters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    It wasn't hundreds of pounds of moonrocks, moron -- it was a few ounces in a SIX-HUNDRED POUND SAFE!!!

    At least TRY to read the story next time, you sorry stupid fuck.

    1. Re:Size matters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      What are you yelling for? Is this so important to you? Get a life, man!
      Do you think we all have that much time to go and read every single piece of "information" crap on linked page of every Slashdot article?
      Buzz off. It's persons like you who ruin slashdot.

    2. Re:Size matters... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 1

      So I misread it.. now stop drinking caffineated coffee - it obviously affects you.

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    3. Re:Size matters... by H3XA · · Score: 1

      I think that AC was upset about the fact the poster didn't even read the summary fully before posting, let alone the linked story..... the pertinent info was on the 2nd last line/sentence of short summary paragraph - even skim readers would see it.

      - HeXa

    4. Re:Size matters... by cut-N-paste+Troll · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Yeah, you are still a moron. Next time, leave the first posts to the professionals.

    5. Re:Size matters... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      By professionals, I assume you mean the AC's who normally get in there and post :

      a) An article explaining why Linux is dying..
      b) A goatse.cx link..
      c) THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ by poopbot.
      d) Whatever else you can think of.

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    6. Re:Size matters... by NFNNMIDATA · · Score: 1

      YOU didn't read the story either it seems. It was actually 4 ounces, although it is not possible to determine in either linked story, you sorry stupid AC. I had to go to Yahoo to find that out. The Chronicle story implies that either a) all 862 lbs collected over the years was in the safe, or b) there were two sets of 5oz each in the safe. The other article has no mention of the weight of the safe's contents.

    7. Re:Size matters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think the AC was TROLLING YOU ALL!

    8. Re:Size matters... by H3XA · · Score: 1

      heh...... recursive reasoning

      - HeXa

  11. Rocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Scene: Dark alley in Bronx, NY.

    Crackhead: "Yo muh nigguh, what's you gots?"

    Dealer: "I gots moon rocks, fool."

    Crackhead: "Moon rocks? Whasdat? That be some kinda crazy crack rock?"

    Dealer: "Das right, nigguh. I jacked this sheeat from a few skinny white boys and they stanky ass ho down in F-L-A. Dis shit'll cost ya, boy. Dey flew it down from da moon and shit."

    Crackhead: "Shit nigguh, I ain't nevah had no space rock. Hook a nigguh up."

    Dealer: "Shit fool, you ain'ts gots the chedda fo it."

    Crackhead: "Fuck you, nigguh. I'll suxx0r your c0xx0r for dem rocks."

    Dealer: "Sheeeeit homie, dats all you had to say!"

    Niggers are so funny :)

    1. Re:Rocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet their nice and funny to when their all gang fucking your mother for rent money. Whats the matter white boy some Man bust a load in you ma and yo saw it? Awe poor icle child, musta left you scared for life. Well with any hope :D

  12. from the striking-a-blow-for-profits dept. by Em+Emalb · · Score: 1

    from the striking-a-blow-for-profits dept.

    hmmm..
    how bout...from the dumb-as-a-box-of-moon-rocks dept.?

    or

    from the dumb-as-an-early-post-mocking-the-dept-title dept.?

    Nah. This is a non-story. Stupid people doing stupid things. Happens all the time. Hell, look at this post. :)

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  13. The Criminals were affirmative action NEGROES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Colored people are genetically predisposed to crime.

    To solve the crime problem, we must first solve the NEGRO PROBLEM.

  14. Local law enforcement uses eBay all the time by httpamphibio.us · · Score: 0

    There have been numerous robberies of stores in my area in the last couple months. The first thing cops used to do years ago is check pawn shops and other such stores, now their first target is eBay. These people really should have known better...

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    1. Re:Local law enforcement uses eBay all the time by Bohnanza · · Score: 1

      I really think Pawnshops ought to do a better job of protecting their clients. After all, if you put a sign on your shop that says "WE PAY CASH FOR GOLD AND ELECTRONICS", you are really advertising your store as a front for burglers. The sign might as well say "ROB YOUR NEIGHBORS AND SELL THEIR STUFF HERE. WE WON'T TELL".

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    2. Re:Local law enforcement uses eBay all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really think Pawnshops ought to do a better job of protecting their clients. After all, if you put a sign on your shop that says "WE PAY CASH FOR GOLD AND ELECTRONICS", you are really advertising your store as a front for burglers. The sign might as well say "ROB YOUR NEIGHBORS AND SELL THEIR STUFF HERE. WE WON'T TELL".

      Around here, the pawn shops are the first to rat on obvious thieves. They clandestinely video all transactions and have even been known to help with sting ops.

    3. Re:Local law enforcement uses eBay all the time by ergo98 · · Score: 1

      Considering that pawn shops cater, generally, to the dregs of society, I find it very hard to believe that they would do anything more than an empty gesture towards law enforcement: Pawn shops wouldn't exist without people ripping off jewellery from their parents, or B&Eing their neighbours. Perhaps pawn shops offer up a sacrifice to the law enforcement gods every now and then, but it certainly wouldn't be their norm.

      Pawn shops exist primarily because the reality is that police, at least in most places, really don't care about "petty theft": It is VERY unlikely that they would put out any effort whatsoever to check pawn shops for stolen goods, or to watch Ebay, etc. A friend's laptop was stolen from a coworker's car a while back while they ate lunch in a nearby restaurant (in the middle of the day), and they could actually visibly SEE the greasy finger prints of the culprit(s) all over the top of the window where they pulled it out. Did the police take fingerprints, even when asked to? Nope, it's "just a laptop" and isn't worth their top. At MOST most police limit pawn shop enforcement to "when someone sees something of their own for sale in a pawnshop and won't stop calling us to do something about it". Personally I find this fact, the ignorance of most police to crimes against personal property, an outrageous situation: These same police will blanket a neighbourhood with dozens of cars if someone stole a case from the liquor store or shoplifted a sharpie from Kmart.

    4. Re:Local law enforcement uses eBay all the time by LintMan · · Score: 1

      I'm not quite as cynical about cops in general as that, but I did have a similar experience:

      My apartment had been robbed by the previous (scumbag) tennant, which I know because 1) my door was locked when I got home, so the thief had a key, 2) the apt manager had just informed me the day before that they were going to change my locks becasue they never changed them when I moved in, and 3) my neighbor's kids SAW the previous tennant outside my apartment that day.

      My whole apartment had been rooted through, so I know there were fingerprints everywhere, and I *KNEW* who the thief was, and the cop assigned couldn't be bothered to take fingerprints or track the thief down. I called the cop a few times, and he said they got daily logs from the local pawn shops so they'd spot it if any of my stuff showed up. That's all he was interested in doing.

    5. Re:Local law enforcement uses eBay all the time by ergo98 · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't say that I'm overly cynical about police: I blame society just as much because, as public servants, they really are doing pretty much what we've asked for. Many people have a "oh, don't worry about it: That's what insurance is for" attitude that permeates the "personal theft is no biggie" situation, but the problem is that that encourages and breeds crime. Car thefts (and the incidental costs of them being used for joy riding, crash up derbies, etc) are a HUGE problem in my area, but again everyone has a "no biggie" attitude about it, despite the fact that in the end we all are paying for every penny of loss and damage (and, of course, because car thefts aren't heavily pursued, thieves steal cars to use as transport for even bigger crimes. It's the old broken window effect).

  15. A tribute to the FBI... by iworm · · Score: 5, Funny

    "We put two and two together," Houston FBI spokesman Bob Doguim said Monday. "We had missing rocks in Houston, and some people trying to sell them online."

    Heck, they're clever these FBI chaps, eh?

    1. Re:A tribute to the FBI... by Cpyder · · Score: 2
      Thanks... I just spilled coffee all over my keyboard while laughing my * off...

      You just made my day, thanks!

    2. Re:A tribute to the FBI... by clickety6 · · Score: 1
      It's interesting that the Feds were apparently TOLD by somebody that someone in Florida was selling moon rocks. You'd have thought they might have gone to google and done a search on "moon rocks for sale" and found them for themselves.

      Also interesting that the site that offered them was actually via the small ads on the homepage of the Mineralogy Club of Antwerp, Belgium. Seems he was trying to sell them outside the USA.

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    3. Re:A tribute to the FBI... by (H)olyGeekboy · · Score: 1

      Heck, they're clever these FBI chaps, eh? Yes, we are. I mean they! *THEY!* Damn. (I drive a big, dark blue Ford cargo van with tinted windows. My license plate is NOT FBI, and I have 4 antennae attached to the rear and roof.) Confuses the hell out of people. :)

    4. Re:A tribute to the FBI... by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

      Actually, the FBI is out there actively looking for people selling moonrocks. There was an article on NPR a week or so ago about a fellow who had (legally?) bought a commemorative plaque containing a moonrock. Nixon had given the plaque to some South American country that had since gone revolutionary, and the item fell into the hands of a would-be moonrock entrepreneur in Florida. There's some sort of legal battle going on to determine the legality of ownership of the rock in the US. The point of all the OT rambling, being that, as stupid as they sound, the FBI is actually spending time hunting down real and fake moonrocks.

    5. Re:A tribute to the FBI... by PTBarnum · · Score: 1

      If I read the article correctly, the FBI was alerted to the advertisements a few months before the rocks were stolen. Unless you expect the FBI to be prescient, I don't see why they would have thought to search google for moon rocks back in March.

    6. Re:A tribute to the FBI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its a small lucite ball containing lunar material. not a plaque.

    7. Re:A tribute to the FBI... by Daetrin · · Score: 2

      No, but in that case you might have expected them to mention to NASA that they might want to keep a better eye on their moon rocks :)

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    8. Re:A tribute to the FBI... by s.fontinalis · · Score: 1

      The one the treasury agents in my old appartment building drove was a Ford Aerostar, not a cargo van. It did have 4 antennas and tinted windows - and was 12 years old and in immaculate condition (the biggest give away). Not at all conspicuous

    9. Re:A tribute to the FBI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the newspaper writer was trying to be droll. The irony in the article is intended.

    10. Re:A tribute to the FBI... by FlemLion · · Score: 1

      Yup, they where indeed alerted.
      The guy was interviewed on Belgian radio this morning.

      It has something of an Hercule Poirot story really : a little Belgian helping the big great old FBI catch the bad guys. And at the same time also some resembles with an Internet romance, cause it all started by E-mail. The seller sending an E-mail. A concerned mineralogist sending an E-mail to the FBI, who was then coached by the FBI to keep the E-mail conversation going, untill some FBI agents could catch them, posing as his brother and sister in law.

      Nice anecdote is as well, that because the FBI did not trust people at NASA, he had to explain to the FBI how they would be able to distinguish a fake moonrock from a real one! Took some research but it must have been convincing enough :-)

    11. Re:A tribute to the FBI... by kaimiike1970 · · Score: 2

      I'm sorry, you were laughing your star off? Your asterisk off?

      I'll bet I could beat you up.

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  16. Government property? by plumby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why is it government property? I thought there was an agreement that the moon was not owned by any country or government. Surely taking the rock from the moon doesn't actually mean that you then own it (as you've then stolen it from the rest of the world). If it belongs to anyone one earth, then maybe the UN, but not an individual government.

    1. Re:Government property? by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Us Government property, UN property... Hmm. Am I missing a distinction in there?

      Let's not split geopolitical hairs.

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    2. Re:Government property? by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 2

      The U.S. considers all lunar material brought back to Earth (so far) to be the property of the U.S., and I agree with them. They (we) are the ones who spent billions of dollars to get there and fetch it.

      One point on which I don't agree is the idea that we own it forever. Apparently there was some recent disagreement (perhaps discussed here on the dot?) that involved a moon rock that had changed hands a few times. The first change of hands (from the U.S. to a foreign dignitary) was legit, but one or more of the later transfers were not legit. I don't agree that the U.S. has a legitimate claim to it.

      By the way, and I think this came out in the earlier discussion, I think you misunderstand the concept of "ownership" of the moon. While it's true that we have agreed that the moon will not be the sovereign territory of any nation, that does not mean that materials and resources obtained on the moon cannot be owned. The point is that anyone has access to it. If anyone brings stuff back, it's theirs.

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    3. Re:Government property? by collectspace · · Score: 1
      The U.S. is not claiming the rock you cite RE: "recent disagreement" rather enforcing its own laws.

      The rock, gifted to the country of Honduras in 1973, was smuggled back into the United States in 1995 -- the carrier never declared it at customs. The U.S. also prohibits stolen material from reentering the country and according to a law professor familiar with the Honduran legal system, the rock was illegimately obtained (for their part, the Honduran gov't is asking for the rock to be returned.)

      You can read the latest on this case, here.

    4. Re:Government property? by jaclu · · Score: 1

      If NASA retrieved those rocks, it seems fair that those rocks would be NASA prop.

      The moon itself isn't owned, so if you feel like it just go there and grab a few tons ;)

    5. Re:Government property? by great+throwdini · · Score: 3, Interesting

      One point on which I don't agree is the idea that we own it forever. Apparently there was some recent disagreement (perhaps discussed here on the dot?) that involved a moon rock that had changed hands a few times. The first change of hands (from the U.S. to a foreign dignitary) was legit, but one or more of the later transfers were not legit. I don't agree that the U.S. has a legitimate claim to it.

      Should I happen to be so lucky to recall this particular dispute correctly, the issue was that the lunar rock in question had been gifted to a foreign dignitary, subsequently stolen, and was now in process of being resold.

      Ah. Here's a reference to the lunar dispute. Seems the Feds want to reclaim a rock originally given to Honduras by President Nixon so that they may return it to the Honduran government. The person most recently in possession of the rock claimed to have bought it from a Honduran military officer who, in turn, claimed to have been given it as a gift some time ago. The Honduran gov't claims they never let it go willingly in the first place.

      And here's a 1995 lunar rock dispute, wherein the Feds claimed a rock put up for sale was stolen in the mail some twenty-odd years back. No idea what the resolution was in that case.

      Two things I note, here: (1) proposed sale of lunar material invites close scrutiny by the Feds; and (2) the Feds don't seem to be claiming ownership without end, but instead inspection and enforcement of transfer to and among individuals.

      Makes me wonder whether such intervention on the part of the Federal Government is really out of line with handling of similar national treasures. (Yes, though given as goodwill trinkets to other nations, I do believe the expense and historical value of the materials in question qualify them as such.)

    6. Re:Government property? by bbc22405 · · Score: 2, Funny
      One point on which I don't agree is the idea that we own it forever. Apparently there was some recent disagreement (perhaps discussed here on the dot?) that involved a moon rock that had changed hands a few times. The first change of hands (from the U.S. to a foreign dignitary) was legit, but one or more of the later transfers were not legit. I don't agree that the U.S. has a legitimate claim to it.

      Well, if you had read the Lunar Materials End User License Agreement that was shrink-wrapped around those rocks, you would know that the Central American government only had a non-transferable license to house and view those rocks; we actually retained ownership. That EULA explicitly prohibits resale and reverse engineering, and disclaims the rocks to be suitable for any purpose.

    7. Re:Government property? by eMilkshake · · Score: 1
      No one owns the moon, but the gob'ment owns what it hauls back from the moon. They put the labor in, you see.

      Remember, you own what you put your sweat in.

    8. Re:Government property? by LittleGuy · · Score: 3

      [i]Why is it government property? [/i]

      Procured with Government funds, perhaps?

      When individuals can send vehicles to land on the moon, scoop up samples, and return them safely, then they can do whatever with the samples.

      Rebuttal?

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    9. Re:Government property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember, you own what you put your sweat in.

      Please tell that to the patent office.

    10. Re:Government property? by Martigan80 · · Score: 1

      Well it can't belong to the UN because not every country belongs to the UN.

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    11. Re:Government property? by plumby · · Score: 2
      No one owns the moon, but the gob'ment owns what it hauls back from the moon. They put the labor in, you see.

      I suspect burglars could use that arguement. "I had to haul the TV out of his house, so it must be mine".

      Remember, you own what you put your sweat in.

      Tell that to your employer. If your contract is anything like most peoples, they own what you put your sweat in.

    12. Re:Government property? by itsnotme · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Its not like you OWN the earth either, its been around longer than any of us and we are claiming that patches of land on it belong to us exclusively. Why should the moon be any different, greed is greed.

    13. Re:Government property? by plumby · · Score: 2

      Kuwait was procured with Iraqi government funds. Does this meant that they should have been legally entitled to it?

    14. Re:Government property? by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 2

      the Lunar Materials End User License Agreement that was shrink-wrapped around those rocks...

      Actually, there is some disagreement here as well. The EULA was posted on a small brass placard mounted to a boulder in the center of the far side of the moon. It reads, in part, "By landing on this surface, you agree to be bound by the provisions of this license, including any future changes that may be made to it."

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    15. Re:Government property? by the+gnat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's shocking how many people in this thread agree with you. As government property, it was available for research (one of the linked articles has an archived article discussing this) and held in trust for the people. In fact, that article says they get requests from institutions all over the world to study the rocks. Anyone who wants their own personal moon rocks can fund their own expedition to get them. I doubt the feds would have much of a case trying to wrest those away.

      At any rate, the point here is that these particular rocks were most certainly US property, and these assholes were trying to sell them to a private collector. I fail to see any gray area.

    16. Re:Government property? by CodeMonky · · Score: 2

      Apples and oranges.
      The moon is an unoccupied 'territory' not owned or claimed by any nation on earth.
      Kuwait is an occupied country with a government citizens.

      We went to the moon and took some rocks that (last I checked) where just chillin on the moon not being used for anything.
      Iraq went to Kuwait and took over their oil fields, equipment and all. Those where being used for something, namely providing oil and money for the people of kuwait.

      Now, if we knowlingly took the moon rocks knowing they where the fuel and income source of the moon people then your analogy would stand.

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    17. Re:Government property? by perljon · · Score: 0

      Actually, it is law that anything that is in space, and lands on American soil is considered property of the United States Government.

      I know this because of a 1997 Ohio State University week long conference on space. The SETI people there half-joked about this as the reason why the private American space program has never taken off.

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    18. Re:Government property? by plumby · · Score: 2

      The statement that I was replying to claimed that the reason it was US property was that it was Procured with Government funds, not that it wasn't being used by anyone else. The point was that procurement by government funds by itself is not enough justification to claim ownership by that government (and that was presented by the previous owner as the only justification needed).

    19. Re:Government property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Iraq went to Kuwait and took over their oil fields, equipment and all. Those where being used for something, namely providing oil and money for the people of kuwait.

      That and the Iraqis raped and murdered thousands of Kuwaitis in the process...

    20. Re:Government property? by clickety6 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Us Government property, UN property...

      Is the US still actually a member of the UN? I thought their representative just went along to the meetings for the free cookies!

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    21. Re:Government property? by Catmeat · · Score: 1
      As others have said, it belongs to the US government because the US paid to go get it.

      Even the Apollo samples that where presented to foreign heads of state where really on permanent loan to those countries. The US government has never given away or sold any lunar material, so any for sale is either fake or stolen.

      The only exception is a microscopic sample of lunar material was sold at Sotherby's a few years ago. However it was part of a couple of ounces of soil returned to earth by an unmanned Russian spacecraft. As the individual selling it had been presented with the sample by the Soviet government, it was perfectly OK for them to sell it.

    22. Re:Government property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...or to socialists for that matter.

    23. Re:Government property? by iCEBaLM · · Score: 2

      Us Government property, UN property... Hmm. Am I missing a distinction in there?

      Yes, yes you are my arrogant american friend.

      -- iCEBaLM

    24. Re:Government property? by collectspace · · Score: 1
      Even the Apollo samples that where presented to foreign heads of state where really on permanent loan to those countries. The US government has never given away or sold any lunar material, so any for sale is either fake or stolen.
      This is not true. The 135 samples gifted to the foreign heads of state were just that, gifts. They are free and clear the property of the recepient nation and if they so chose to (under their own laws) could sell their rock to a private owner. Romania may have done just that...

      An article explaining this all is available here.

    25. Re:Government property? by CodeMonky · · Score: 2

      Oh I see.
      My mistake.

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    26. Re:Government property? by lunaman · · Score: 1

      or, indeed, to capitalists...

    27. Re:Government property? by chamenos · · Score: 1

      nah...they spent millions getting there, and getting the rocks back so its theirs.

      i went to china and i stole a piece of brick i broke off the great wall of china. after paying the airfare to and fro, the brick is mine! now i have a piece of chinese culture sitting in my trophy cabinet, not to mention the loose iron bar i plucked off the base of the eiffel tower when i went there last year.

    28. Re:Government property? by Noofus · · Score: 1

      Tell that to your employer. If your contract is anything like most peoples, they own what you put your sweat in.

      However your employer pays you for your work. Essentially they BUY what you produce from you. Thats how capitalism works, I guess. You do something. Someone gives you something valuable (money) in exchange for what you did. Both parties are happy.

    29. Re:Government property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously you are a foreigner who can not accept America's dominance over your own country. Until any kind of nwo takes place I think you should take a timeout .

    30. Re:Government property? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2

      The point was that procurement by government funds by itself is not enough justification to claim ownership by that government

      True, but the whole "government funds" angle is quite common in governmental policy. If Joe Schome's Moon Transport was hired by the gov't to go get moon rocks, then the gov't could claim ownership of the rocks. They specify "gov't funds" as a shorhand way of saying "not only did our employees go there and get it, we paid every cent of the cost of doing so, so there's no frickin' way anyone can claim part of the loot we brought back".

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    31. Re:Government property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember, you own what you put your sweat in.

      In that case, I own your girlfriend.

    32. Re:Government property? by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
      Kuwait was procured with Iraqi government funds. Does this meant that they should have been legally entitled to it?

      Yes. And they *were* legally entitled to it - it was theirs for awhile.

      Then about a dozen countries banded together and bought it back for the Kuwaiti people. What a nice gift.

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    33. Re:Government property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i guess after spending billions of dollars to get the rocks in the first place, they feel that they have a right to use them

    34. Re:Government property? by Osiris+Ani · · Score: 1

      "The moon belongs to America...."
      - Troy McClure {The Simpsons, 4F21, "The Secret War of Lisa Simpson"}

    35. Re:Government property? by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 1

      You have no idea how far I am from being an American...

      I can understand your reaction, though I must ask you to go look sarcasm up in the dictionary.

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    36. Re:Government property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Dennis Hope owns the moon. At least according to his site. You can buy some here (not a plug). Matter of fact, I think it's a ripoff now (more so than before)... it used to be $20 for something like 1700 acres, now it's almost that for one acre. Although I have a friend who owns 17000+ acres - now that's an increase in property values.

      Anyway, these 'tards should have just bought some moon and gone on up there and picked up all the rocks they wanted.

    37. Re:Government property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now you know why your friends watch you so closely
      at parties.
      You clepto

  17. Who would buy these? by Myco · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What kind of idiot would buy moon rocks over the Internet for any appreciable sum of money? How exactly would you verify what you were buying? And what kind of idiot wouldn't know that any moon rocks for sale must be stolen property?

    There is, last time I checked, *one* moon rock in the U.S. (or the world?) that is in any way available to the public. You can go and touch it. I did. Whee. Looked like a rock, to me.

    1. Re:Who would buy these? by Pentagram · · Score: 1

      Where is this moon rock you can touch, out of interest?

    2. Re:Who would buy these? by WetCat · · Score: 1

      There is also some moon regolite taken from Moon
      by Soviet station Luna-12. It was on display in
      Politech museum in Moscow, Russia...
      But it's not rocks, it's like sand or dirt.

    3. Re:Who would buy these? by Trollmastah · · Score: 0

      Air and Space in Wash DC

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    4. Re:Who would buy these? by little1973 · · Score: 2, Informative

      "And what kind of idiot wouldn't know that any moon rocks for sale must be stolen property?"

      This is not true. You can find Moon rocks (even Mars rocks) on Earth since meteorites can tear material from the Moon (or Mars) at impact which may land on Earth afterwards.

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    5. Re:Who would buy these? by collectspace · · Score: 2, Informative
      Lunar "touchstones" are located at the National Air & Space Museum, Space Center Houston and the Museo de Las Ciencias in Mexico. (I believe Kennedy Space Center also has a touchstone, but I am not sure.)

      You could also buy touchable lunar dust earlier this year...

    6. Re:Who would buy these? by nettdata · · Score: 2

      What kind of idiot would buy moon rocks over the Internet for any appreciable sum of money?

      Ironically, in this case, someone who would actually WANT moon rocks... these were legit!

      Hmmm... makes me re-think that whole Penis Enlargement ad I saw...

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    7. Re:Who would buy these? by perljon · · Score: 0

      I have some moonrock to sell to you then. E-mail me. Very reasonable prices.

      I accept VISA, CERTIFIED CHECKS, or MONEY ORDERS. (Pay Pal rips you off)

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    8. Re:Who would buy these? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kennedy does indeed have a touchable moon rock

    9. Re:Who would buy these? by Peyna · · Score: 2
      Hmmm... makes me re-think that whole Penis Enlargement ad I saw...

      Perhaps this might change your mind about the Penis Enlargement Companies.

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    10. Re:Who would buy these? by divine19 · · Score: 1

      I would.... Its a moon rock.... so what? Could it not contain some intressting material or some of that stuff?

    11. Re:Who would buy these? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I touched it, I touched it when I was there and you didn't!!!! Hehehe, kneele before Zod!

    12. Re:Who would buy these? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hmmm... makes me re-think that whole Penis Enlargement ad I saw...

      It's said that tying a piece of moon rock ...

    13. Re:Who would buy these? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is also a moon rock you can touch at the JSC Visitor Center in Houston. Its in the Starship Gallery. Its a really facinating place. I and my family and a close friend have been there many times. I never pass up an opportunity to touch "our moon". :)

    14. Re:Who would buy these? by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 1

      I aint gonna touch any damn moon rocks untill i can pick it up, put it in the pocet of my pressure suit and take it home with me.

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    15. Re:Who would buy these? by Anonymous._.Coward · · Score: 1
      some intressting material

      Yesss, and it would be your preciousssss...

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    16. Re:Who would buy these? by ckedge · · Score: 1

      The airport in Calgary has a Science exhibit (mostly aimed at kids), but it has a chunk of moon-rock on display. It's embedded in a big chunk of lucite. I was actually suprised to see it, I didn't know that NASA had given any of the moon rocks away for display purposes. (Or maybe my memory/the-display-caption is wrong, maybe it's a moon-rock via meteorite?)

    17. Re:Who would buy these? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      And what kind of idiot wouldn't know that any moon rocks for sale must be stolen property?

      To be honest, I didn't know until now that there weren't any moon rocks in private hands. If you had asked me yesterday, I would've speculated that NASA allowed the astronauts to keep some samples that they brought back. I mean, isn't that the LEAST they could do? I'd be pissed if I went to the moon, but they didn't let me keep any souvenir. :)

      Obviously I would expect some sort of authenticity verification...

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    18. Re:Who would buy these? by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* What kind of idiot would buy moon rocks over the Internet for any appreciable sum of money? *)

      Hmmmm. Maybe I should sell "Fake Moon Rocks" via ebay or spam. Perhaps somebody wants to impress a babe or something. Don't need a real moon rock to do that since nobody without a lab can tell the difference. And, the prettier the girl, the less likely she has a lab. (No, I don't have statistics to back that.....yet.)

      "Fake Incased Moon Rock - Impress The Girls!"

      Sounds as good as any spam to me. Or how about:

      "Who needs a longer p*nis when you have a fake moon rock!"

    19. Re:Who would buy these? by guttentag · · Score: 5, Funny
      What kind of idiot would buy moon rocks over the Internet for any appreciable sum of money?
      The FBI.

      Idiot Selling Moon Rocks: "Hey, I got me some moon rocks for sale! Moon rocks! Get 'em while they're hot!"
      FBI Agent: "I'm very interested in your moon rocks. Where did you get them? I see... Where do I send the check?"

    20. Re:Who would buy these? by PatientZero · · Score: 3, Funny

      All they got was a fscking T-shirt.

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    21. Re:Who would buy these? by Tycho · · Score: 1

      There are three kinds of moon rocks. Those that were brought back by the Apollo missions. There were also some brought back by a lander sent by the Soviet Union. The third type is moon rocks where a meteorite landed on the moon, blasted out some rock, which made it into orbit and the rock then landed on Earth. The first type US citizens cannot own. The second type I think that maybe one or two samples are on the open market. The third type anyone can own. The only problem is that most moon rocks are basalt, which is common on the Earth, the moon, and in one class of asteroids. The only way to tell the difference between them is to date them using isotopic methods, which is expensive. Also the only places to get them are in Antartica, potentially Greenland and maybe in the middle of some large glaciers.

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  18. price of the rocks by kbroom · · Score: 1
    "...tiny pieces of lunar soil and a famous Martian meterorite valued at more than $1 million."

    So how do put a price on that:

    • Take it to "the price is right".
    • They are universally around US 599,999.99/lb. (varying galaxy to galaxy and depending on the exchange rate).
    • Taking the rocks to the "antique roadshow".
    1. Re:price of the rocks by collectspace · · Score: 1
      For comparison: Three small lunar rocks (we're talking microscopic) returned by a Soviet robotic probe was sold at Sotheby's in the early 90s for $700,000.

      Christie's sold a lunar-dust stained patch, removed from moonwalker James Irwin's spacesuit for $310,000.

      Millimeter size cuts of dust-stained scotch tape were sold earlier this year for $6,000.

      More examples can be found here.

  19. uhm? by zmooc · · Score: 4, Funny

    oz? lbs? People living somewhere on the southern hemisphere and a harddisk access format? What do they have to do with moonrocks?

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    1. Re:uhm? by H3XA · · Score: 1

      its a US thing..... they are the imperial guards without a metric clue.

      heh.... Star Wars pun.... geez I suck

      - HeXa

    2. Re:uhm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      due to the enormous joke that is the American education system (Speaking as a product of such)
      the populace here looks down at metric as being inferior and difficult.
      after all why just count in units of 10 when you can go in units of 12, then 3, then 5,280 for distance. much easier (heh...).
      Oz. = ounces I dont remeber the metric equivalent. there are about 16 Oz. to the pound (Lb.)
      1 Lb. (pound) weighs 2.2 kilograms

      hope that helps those who live in the civilized countries of the world a bit.

      Stirge

      Stirge

    3. Re:uhm? by Deluge · · Score: 1

      That's LBA, not lbs. Still, point taken :)

  20. 21st century student life is obviously harsh... by Elphin · · Score: 1

    ....thrown in jail just for mooning!

  21. You got that all wrong... by cnelzie · · Score: 2, Funny

    They would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for those kids and that dog!

    -.-

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  22. Stupid!!! by DaEvOsH · · Score: 1

    These guys should get a Darwin award ASAP for their stupidity.

    I hope they get a nice, large boyfriend in jail to remind them of their get rich fast idea.

    1. Re:Stupid!!! by tisaak · · Score: 1

      They didn't spontaneously remove themselves from the genetic pool, so they can't.

    2. Re:Stupid!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's always the possibility in prison that they'll learn the joys of same-gender sex, which will effect the same results.

    3. Re:Stupid!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummm.. Darwin Awards are only given to those geniuses who REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM THE GENE POOL in a stupid way... general stupidity and lack of common sense doesn't qualify them. (otherwise I imagine there'd be a lot more nominees!)

  23. I'm not getting it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Why this makes it on /. ? Are you trying to see how /.-ers react on such stuff.

    Damn goverment that spies everybody and arse-licks M$ is trying to eliminate freedom of speech. Now it is time to start a small revolution! Free those kidz or HAX00R, now all donate yours at:

    www.freekids-for-stealing-lunars.com

    Some of your donation is giong for FS/OSS as well ;-)

  24. other stolen rocks.. by Fuzzums · · Score: 5, Interesting

    one year ago there was a big diamond theft in amsterdam. No guns were used.
    the diamonds wee carried out thtough the front door in a microwavebox!

    [http://www.preciousgemstones.com/gffall01.html# th iev]
    $8 Million in Diamonds Stolen in Microwave
    In the Netherlands, a 25-year-old man calmly walked out of the offices of Amsterdam's Gassan Diamonds carrying a box stuffed with uninsured diamonds. He had arrived at the office with the box at the start of the working day, saying it contained a microwave oven. Benno Leeser, director of the 56-year-old family-run firm said, "He came with a microwave in the box, but he left with the diamonds." The suspect, said to be a former army cook who had worked for the firm since April, has vanished without a trace.

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    1. Re:other stolen rocks.. by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Funny

      The suspect, said to be a former army cook

      Hey I saw him in that action movie. It's a good thing they didn't try to fuck with him.

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    2. Re:other stolen rocks.. by Dthoma · · Score: 1
      "He came with a microwave in the box, but he left with the diamonds."

      Sounds like a fair trade to me!

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    3. Re:other stolen rocks.. by RazorJ_2000 · · Score: 1

      Yah, Siegal only bends over for the Mob...

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    4. Re:other stolen rocks.. by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

      sounds like how we stole beer when i worked for a grocery store... worked next to the cooler, had an apple box cases fit right in.

  25. The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)

    Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.

    Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!

    Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our government when the sun goes down.

    1. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by kzinti · · Score: 0, Troll

      The fake moon landing: an analysis of "photographs" brought back from the "moon" show that the "landing" was faked. Read on:

      NASA Fakes Moon Landing!

      --Jim

    2. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by bailout911 · · Score: 2

      Please, I'm sure you think it's funny to spew out garbage about the moon landing being a hoax, but some of us take science a little more seriously. Just in case you're serious about the moon landings being fake, here's some real scientific information about why they can't be fake.

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    3. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by kzinti · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      OK, my first reaction was "What a fscking moron!"... but then I remember that the Slashdot Effect exceeded that poor guy's pathetic Tripod hourly bandwidth limit, and I realize maybe you haven't actually seen the photographic analysis at that site. So I'll be kind, withhold judgment, and I'll only say: wait until Brainsluice is back online, then go look at the pictures yourself. Then, if there's still any question in your mind about whether I'm serious, we'll have a real debate about taking one's pet issues (or one's self?) too seriously.

      --Jim

    4. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Marx_Mrvelous · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you're referring to any of the following "proof" that the landings didn't take place, then you need to do some real research:
      1. There was no crater under the lander.
      2. The shadows should have been completely dark.
      3. There are no stars in the night sky.
      4. You can see the letter "N" (or something) on a "prop" rock.
      5. You can see a reflection of a video camera, or an incorrect reflection (3rd spaceman, etc) in a visor.
      All of these "proofs" have been easily disproven. I'll enumerate:
      1. There will never be one, they approached the moon at several feet/sec. Do you hit the parking space at 100MPH?
      2. Simple physics: Light reflects. There are no truly dark shadows anywhere there is a light source that can reflect.
      3. The cameras were set to very fast exposure due to the extreme brightness so the stars did not have time to expose the film. (In addition, I beelive that there are stars in some of the real NASA pictures.)
      4. This is a scratch in the film; the real photo does not have this (or other imperfections that have been added by bad photocopies).
      5. I won't go into detail on all of them, but the imfamous "3rd spaceman" is actually an editied picture: again, it is not present in the originals.
      Go to the webpage previously referenced, it explains everything in detail.

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    5. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by kzinti · · Score: 1

      If you're referring to any of the following "proof" that the landings didn't take place, then you need to do some real research...

      Have you even seen the moon photos at the tripod site I mentioned? It IS real research! The photos are real, the analysis CONCLUSIVE. See the photos, they're 100% convincing!

      Oh, you guys are just too MUCH fun...

      --jim

    6. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Jacer · · Score: 1

      Of course the moon exists! Dr. Evil put a laser on it, and Mr. Powers saved the day, with the help of himself from ten minutes from now, or was it ten minutes from then...

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    7. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by crawling_chaos · · Score: 2
      On point 3, several of the astronauts commented that stars were not visible to the naked eye during lunar day. There was too much light bouncing off the surface. Stars won't appear just because the sky is black. Anyone who believes otherwise should try to find stars in the night sky in a brightly lit parking lot on Earth. The lunar surface is incredibly bright during the day, due to the lack of an atmosphere and a fairly high albedo. That's why they had the sunscreens down on their helmets 90% of the time.

      No that this changes the intent of your post in any way, of course. I just thought you might find it interesting.

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    8. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "On point 3, several of the astronauts commented that stars were not visible to the naked eye during lunar day..."

      I think the lack of stars proves that Nasa landed on the moon. I mean think about it: If Nasa was really making a TV stunt, they would have had a starry background. That's the way TV worked those days, you give people what they expect.

      The 'hoax proof' is a rather comic read. They even had a version of it aired on FOX. Their 'expert photographer' knew absolutely nothing about how light works. That's pathetic. Somebody took some 'astronaut toys' and recreated the photos this guy panned. Heh it produced the same type of lighting.

      There's a book called 'Light-Science & Magic' by Hunter and Fuqua that goes into detail about how light works with photography. It doesn't talk about the moon specifically, but it does show how areas of light cause interesting shadows. I can imagine most anybody visiting Slashdot enjoying that book for one reason or another. It really helps you appreciate the pictures Nasa was able to take of the moon.

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    9. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by WinDoze · · Score: 1

      there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950

      1929

    10. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Xerithane · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The analysis isn't conclusive because it's not only done by a bunch of tin-foil hat wearing people who think Art Bell should be president, but completely flawed.

      Have you seen the original photos? I mean the originals. The real originals.

      Let me tell you a story, it's about Mars. You see, Mars has this face on it, right? It's a human face, that's how the story goes, if I recall. I saw the original feed. I had access to all of those images. Every single mars image we have ever taken, straight from the archives.

      You know what? All those "Mars Face" images are doctored. In a really easy way, just playing around with overlay and contrast and you get a very nice face.

      If you think that analyzing photographs and only photographs is considered real research than you really do need to take a forensics course when you get into college. If it would have been real research they would have explained and counter-proofed all the rebuttals.

      Such as why there is no crater. Which I think is the stupidest one of all. We are talking landing at less than 2 feet per second. 2 feet per second. You jump harder than that dipshit. I don't see craters forming on NBA courts everywhere. Hell, I don't see craters forming out in the dirt when you jump up and down.

      Anyway, go open your eyes read up on light reflection on the moon and physics, and you will see that you sound like a complete fucking moron right now trying to say this is a hoax.

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    11. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Xerithane · · Score: 1

      Wooo.. sorry - I finally got through to see the site.

      hehe.

      Uhm, .. hehe ..

      No hard feelings mate?

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    12. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Tablizer · · Score: 2
    13. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by chascarrillo · · Score: 1

      You can actually detect stars on at least some of the NASA photos. Pop 'em into Photoshop (or your image editor of choice), select the sky, and adjust the levels. There's several that I've found that do show stars after enhancing the image - assuming that they're not compression artifacts (unlikely) or imperfections in the camea (I'm completely unable to judge that).

    14. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by kzinti · · Score: 1

      Wooo.. sorry - I finally got through to see the site. hehe. Uhm, .. hehe

      Well, at least ONE other person on Slashdot knows I'm not a complete moron!

      --Jim

    15. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Xerithane · · Score: 1

      I do have to say though that you gave me one of the biggest laughs I've ever had on slashdot. Granted, it was mostly at my own expense.

      I gotta thank you for that one.

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    16. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by PatientZero · · Score: 2

      "Texas Moon" is slang for a bare ass, like "full moon." Therefore, "Under a Texas Moon" refers to someone singing under someone else's bare ass. ;)

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    17. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by crawling_chaos · · Score: 2

      I would guess that those photos were taken in the "afternoon" or "morning" periods when the sun wasn't as bright.

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    18. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that is is generally the kind of thing lefties will say about the righties. Except for the gun thing.

      We all know peniless hippies can't finance or influence this kind of expensive plot.

    19. Re:The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As for not being able to see stars in the moon photos... why would you see them?

      Anyone watch the NASA channel? When they do their camera shots from outside the Space Station or the shuttle the sky is always pitch black. Why? Not only because of the fact the contrast of Earth against the emptiness of space or the sun, but also because space is so vast and empty that you really can't see starlight most of the time! Yeah, it's really that empty. I would even wager that if you were to leave our solar system you'd be more likely to see almost pitch black in every direction.

      Believe it or not space isn't like Star Trek, Star Wars, or B5. It's more like 2001 A Space Oddesey. ... next thing you know someone will claim the space missions were faked because you couldn't hear the roar of the engines. After all, rocket engines are hella loud and you shoudl be able to hear them in space, right?

  26. Huh? by neksys · · Score: 2

    Is there a market out there to make any money off this? I mean - if I ran across "L@@K - real MOON ROCK from SPACE MISSIONS!!!!! N/R!!!!!!!" on eBay, I'd assume it was just a joke at best, or a scam at worst. I mean, sure, you can sucker someone into paying $100 for a fake moon rock, but a million or so for a rock that, as far as the public is concerned, may or may not be real? It doesn't seem like all that great a plan - perhaps it would've been better to contact some private collectors directly.

    1. Re:Huh? by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 2

      Please permit me to refer you to the authority on demand creation for potentially bogus merchandise.

      Glad to help out.

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    2. Re:Huh? by evilempireinc · · Score: 1

      According to the article the students contacted a mineral collectors group directly. I think the idea was that the buyer and the students were to meet in person to sell the stuff so that way niether of them would get ripped off ( seller actually has rocks , buyer actually has $ ).

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  27. THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ [slashdot.org]
    By J. Wipo Troll, Esq. [slashdot.org], $Revision: 1.16 $
    [This article attempts to document a vile, ungodly practice that runs rampant through the homosexual geek and hacker community, a practice known as âoeTaco-snotting,â or simply âoesnotting.â Taco-snotting is something that few geeks dare talk about in free or open conversation, but it is nonetheless a widely-practiced and dangerous form of homosexuality. If you or anyone you know has ever engaged in Taco-snotting, please get professional help [adequacy.org] before it is too late. â"ed.]

    Why do I keep receiving emails from an individual calling himself âoeCmdrTacoâ?
    You have been receiving unsolicited mailings from a certain Robert âoeCmdrTacoâ Malda [cmdrtaco.net], owner of the popular technology website slashdot.org [slashdot.org]. Actually, itâ(TM)s not a very âoepopularâ site in the common sense of the word; the site is rife with pimply, antisocial geeks and hackers, zit-faced nerds, communists, dirty GNU hippies [yahoo.com], and other societal rejects and outcasts. Itâ(TM)s also home to one of the worldâ(TM)s largest suspected pædophile rings, the infamous âoeSlashdot crew.â
    Whenever Mr. Malda gets bored (and who wouldnâ(TM)t, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the user database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual activities with him. How he determines this is anyoneâ(TM)s guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with a letter of the English alphabet in it, youâ(TM)re a potential candidate.
    This time, he found you. Lucky you.

    Mr. Malda seems to be speaking in some sort of code. Do you know what it means?
    CmdrTacoâ(TM)s code language is relatively easy to decipher. This pervert prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo (yes, thatâ(TM)s right: he wants you) to evade the watchful eye of Slashdotâ(TM)s parent corporation, VA Software [yahoo.com]. Mr. Maldaâ(TM)s âoeCommanderâ is, of course, his penis: a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants and only comes out in the presence of other male geeks or at the beck and call of Maldaâ(TM)s own lubed-up right hand. His âoeTaco bells [sonymusic.com]â are the shriveled testicles that droop beneath his Commander, and his âoeTaco sauceâ is his thin, runny semen. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means if he asked you to âoering his Taco bellsâ or âoetaste his gourmet Taco sauce.â
    I would also guess CmdrTaco asked you to engage in a practice known as âoeTaco-snottingâ and, if he was in a particularly depraved mood at the time, a âoecircle-snot.â

    Good Lord. And, yes, he did. What is âoeTaco-snottingâ?
    âoeTaco-snottingâ is the term used by Robert Malda to refer to the depraved act of fellating another man (homo- or heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumoured to prefer raping unwilling victims), then blowing the semen out his nose and back onto the face and body of his victim. Naturally, a long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTacoâ(TM)s face [go.com], dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, âoeTaco-snotting.â
    And if thatâ(TM)s not bad enoughâ¦
    A âoecircle-snotâ is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew [bastardgenres.com]. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel [aol.com], and Homos get together and snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum â" spooging their jizz-snot all over each otherâ(TM)s faces and pasty, white bodies, until theyâ(TM)re covered head to toe with their own and each otherâ(TM)s man juice. This vile, ungodly ritual can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limousine service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow faggots Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The homosexual shenanigans that follow are nearly beyond description. The whole group begins to snot each otherâ(TM)s spunk and whip each otherâ(TM)s pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

    Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?
    Hopefully, but I wouldnâ(TM)t count on it.
    To begin with, you most likely forgot to uncheck the âoeWilling to Snotâ checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad (do you have a homosexual-sounding nick?), and heâ(TM)s probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube, just waiting to pounce and declare you his new bitch. Thereâ(TM)s no escaping a geek in heat (trust me), so itâ(TM)s probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTacoâ(TM)s sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to âoeWilling to Snot.â Maybe heâ(TM)ll ignore you. Probably not.

    I canâ(TM)t stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?
    If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, hemight leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge⦠oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot all over you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

    Have you ever been Taco-snotted?
    Unfortunately, yes. I first met Mr. Malda at an Open Source Convention [amazon.com]. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some âoegourmet Tacos,â but when I got there, the perverted geek jumped me and handcuffed me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his âoeCommanderâ out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times, virtually nonstop. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm⦠then he snotted my own thick, gooey jizz back onto my face out of his nostrils! He snotted me two more times, first into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
    CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, âoeOpen Sauceâ â" man sauce) buddies over to continue their ungodly snotfest. European hacker and known überfaggot Linux Torvalds raped my ass [yahoo.com] with his âoemonolithic kernel [yahoo.com];â his partner-in-crime Anal Cox used their âoenetwork stackâ in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice of my defenseless, tender, young body. Michael Sims was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my previously-virginal ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about âoeall those Censorware [spectacle.org] freaks out to get him.â

    That is so disgusting! How did you finally escape?
    After about 16 hours of countless unholy, homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, completely covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant â" I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door (of the apartment, not their back doors). Iâ(TM)m just glad I survived the awful ordeal. These sexually-repressed hackers had alot of built-up spunk in their wads â" I couldâ(TM)ve easily been drowned!

    Thatâ(TM)s horrible. Does âoeTaco-snottingâ have anything to do with CmdrTacoâ(TM)s âoespecial tacoâ?
    No, thatâ(TM)s a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. Mr. Malda is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll [slashdot.org] has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership [slashdot.org] about this vile practice (emphasis added):
    You may be wondering what CmdrTacoâ(TM)s âoespecial tacoâ is. You will be wishing that you hadnâ(TM)t been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his âoespecial taco,â CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, takes out his tiny withered dick (otherwise known as his âoeCommanderâ), puts his âoespecial taco sauceâ on it which means he jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim. After all, who would knowingly eat shit and CmdrTacoâ(TM)s jizz?
    After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTacoâ(TM)s nefarious homosexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victimâ(TM)s ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved. Trust me, you do not want Jon Katz anywhere near your unconscious body. Also, rumor has it CmdrTaco is looking for a new goatse.cx guy [goatse.cx]. Donâ(TM)t let it be you!
    Different ungodly perversion, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that Robert âoeCmdrTacoâ Malda is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

    Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a pædophile, not a homosexual.
    Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual pædophile. Heâ(TM)s also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Mr. Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesnâ(TM)t involve himself in the circle-snots, but that doesâ(TM)t mean heâ(TM)s any less of a freak than the rest of the Slashdot crew. Katz often engages in a game called âoejuicy-douching [aol.com]â with a harem of little-boy slaves that he has collected over the years: yet another vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boyâ(TM)s urine (forced out of them with a pair of pincers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then dribbling and slathering the goo all over himself and the boyâ(TM)s chained, naked bodies. If heâ(TM)s in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag from his distended anus and just squirt it from his ass [microsoft.com] onto the crying, terrified boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pincers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them at will. A boy will usually last about two years before Mr. Katz either accidentally drowns them in diarrhea or kills them once they get too old, usually around 13 or 14.
    Not content with being a pædophilic coprophile, Mr. Katz is also quite the zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys arenâ(TM)t enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goatâ(TM)s anus [yahoo.com]. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goatâ(TM)s small, bean-like turds, and he often kills his older boys by letting his goats trample them.

    â¦Are you getting hard writing this?
    Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

    No, thanks. Iâ(TM)m already CmdrTacoâ(TM)s boi toi.
    ________________________________________

    * The URL of this document is
    * Previous revisions are publicly available at

    $Id: tacosnotting.html,v 1.16 2001/12/28 21:20:03 wipo Exp $
    Copyright © 2001 J. Wipo Troll, Esq. [slashdot.org] Verbatim crapflooding of this document is permitted in any medium, provided this copyright notice is preserved, and next time you take a dump, you think of the WIPO Troll and all heâ(TM)s done to make Slashdot a better place.

    - posted by poopbot: who doesn't like scat?

    tRrwwBibZd Post #452

    1. Re:THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ by poopbot by ebbomega · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Wow... you know, I'm not usually one for feeding trolls, but at least Taco's web page doesn't replace fucted-up characters for punctuation in my browser...

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  28. Motivation by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

    Obviously the moon rock thieves felt their profits could be, er, sky-high.

  29. Rocket Guy by dowobeha · · Score: 1

    I don't see why they didn't just try to convince Rocket Guy to let them borrow the rocket so they could go up pick some lunar rocks of their own! :)

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  30. *BSD is dying by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    It is now official. Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying


    - posted by poopbot: crapflooding since 7/8/02

    Cb1p9dNYYJ Post #453

  31. "Adventures" at NASA by collectspace · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The wonders the web holds. One of the defendents identified by agents as the ring leader maintained an autobiography on NASA JSC's Co-Op website (since removed by NASA but archived by collectSPACE.com).

    Quoting Thad Roberts:

    "At NASA I have been assigned to the coolest department of all. Formally known as the Earth Science and Solar System Exploration Division (ESSSE) it is now know as the Astromaterials Research and Exploration Science Division (ARES). Most of the people in my building are Geologists, and that's how I got in here.

    "There are so many potential adventures to be had in my building."

    Somehow, I don't think NASA had his type of adventures in mind...

    (More on this story here.)

  32. Waddaya know? by DuranDuran · · Score: 1
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  33. MiB2 by af_robot · · Score: 1

    Oh right, he must be the same guy who sells deneauralizer on ebay...

  34. Why FreeBSD is dying by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    The End of FreeBSD

    [ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]

    When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.

    Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.

    FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.

    It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.

    So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.

    Discussion

    I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.

    From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.

    There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.

    Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.

    Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?

    Shouts

    To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.

    To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. It's when you get distracted by the politickers that they sideline you. The tireless work that you perform keeping the system clean and building is what provides the platform for the obsessives and the prima donnas to have their moments in the sun. In the end, we need you all; in order to go forwards we must first avoid going backwards.

    To the paranoid conspiracy theorists - yes, I work for Apple too. No, my resignation wasn't on Steve's direct orders, or in any way related to work I'm doing, may do, may not do, or indeed what was in the tea I had at lunchtime today. It's about real problems that the project faces, real problems that the project has brought upon itself. You can't escape them by inventing excuses about outside influence, the problem stems from within.

    To the politically obsessed - give it a break, if you can. No, the project isn't a lemonade stand anymore, but it's not a world-spanning corporate juggernaut either and some of the more grandiose visions going around are in need of a solid dose of reality. Keep it simple, stupid.

    To the grandstanders, the prima donnas, and anyone that thinks that they can hold the project to ransom for their own agenda - give it a break, if you can. When the current core were elected, we took a conscious stand against vigorous sanctions, and some of you have exploited that. A new core is going to have to decide whether to repeat this mistake or get tough. I hope they learn from our errors.

    Future

    I started work on FreeBSD because it was fun. If I'm going to continue, it has to be fun again. There are things I still feel obligated to do, and with any luck I'll find the time to meet those obligations.

    However I don't feel an obligation to get involved in the political mess the project is in right now. I tried, I burnt out. I don't feel that my efforts were worthwhile. So I won't be standing for election, I won't be shouting from the sidelines, and I probably won't vote in the next round of ballots.

    You could say I'm packing up my toys. I'm not going home just yet, but I'm not going to play unless you can work out how to make the project somewhere fun to be again.

    = Mike

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  35. Does this answer your question? by chevelleSS · · Score: 2, Informative
  36. Deserve the punishment anyway... by Knacklappen · · Score: 1

    ...not for being so dumb for getting caught but for stealing the things in the first place. As already being pointed out by others:
    - The Sceptics View: It's from the moon but looks like a rock, big deal...
    - The Business Man's View: Who can you sell that stuff to, without any certificate of authenticity?
    - The Geek View: These things belong to the scientific community, not high-bidding assholes (same goes for art)

    Puhish them, why not giving them 6 months (probation?)? This is not the same as sneaking into school one night with a key that happens to open the door to the chemistry lab and stealing some magnesium and other cool stuff... ummm... That was only hypothetical and you can't prove anything!!

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    1. Re:Deserve the punishment anyway... by guybarr · · Score: 1

      why not giving them 6 months (probation?)?

      why not give them several years in prison were they apparently belong ?

      or, alternatively, they could allways finance the next mission to the moon to replace what they stole ...

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  37. Where is the news? by pieterh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What is the real story here? 10oz of rock fragments for $2000-8000 per oz = $20-80k, not really a million dollar heist. This amounts to a theft of around 1/1400th of the total brought back from the moon. Big deal. It's the price of one new car.
    It's maybe worth commenting how law enforcement is starting to use the Internet to cross reference thefts with sales. But seriously: doing manual searches of e-Bay is not what I'd consider automation.
    Summer time... and the news is slow.

    1. Re:Where is the news? by drsoran · · Score: 2

      I wonder if the FBI was actually the ones to notice it or if the NASA engineers browsing eBay for shuttle replacement components saw it and tipped them off.

    2. Re:Where is the news? by bbc22405 · · Score: 1
      What is the real story here? 10oz of rock fragments for $2000-8000 per oz = $20-80k, not really a million dollar heist.

      I'm guessing that you, and the writer for the Houston Chronicle article, were on the engineering team for that probe that crashed into Mars because they mixed up metric and US units. If you read the article, and convert the units, you learn that the total final asking price of these rocks was more than $566,000, and perhaps much more.

    3. Re:Where is the news? by UM_Maverick · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not exactly...it was 2-8K per GRAM, not per ounce. At 28.4 grams per ounce, this becomes $568K-$2.2 million. So yeah, it really is a million-dollar heist.

      Also, the FBI didn't find it themselves...they were tipped off by "a belgian rock hound"

  38. ...can't...resist... by McCart42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It'll be interesting to see them use the defense that "it was the moon rock gnomes!" ...can't resist this one.

    1. Steal moon rocks.
    2. ???
    3. Profit!

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    1. Re:...can't...resist... by H3XA · · Score: 1

      in a related matter.... if they are college students, why aren't they stealing panties from the girls dorms instead of moon rocks - maybe they like sniffing moon rocks more.. [Decency filter activated]

      - HeXa

    2. Re:...can't...resist... by the+way,+what're+you · · Score: 1

      Hello, they work for NASA... they have a better chance of coming face to face with moon rocks than girl's panties.

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    3. Re:...can't...resist... by Mr+Guy · · Score: 2

      Are you kidding?

      Can you imagine the panty removal power of:

      "Actually, I AM a rocket scientist..."

      or

      "I have tomorrow off, NASA believes even astronauts should get a break once in a while."

      You don't need to BE an astronaut or rocket scientist, you just need the NASA id badge.

    4. Re:...can't...resist... by lunaman · · Score: 1

      I've tried the first one, it doesn't work. Of course, maybe I should have tried it more than a couple of miles away from JSC... local women just aren't impressed by that.

    5. Re:...can't...resist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While we're beating dead horses...
      One of the theives was heard to say:
      "All your moon rock are belong to us."

    6. Re:...can't...resist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you remember the story, they tried to *sell* the rocks for a profit (100% profit). The second phase would be "Sell the rocks". There's nothing like a good underpants gnome reference, but this was nothing like a good underpants gnome reference.

  39. A typical slashdot day by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: anonymous

    "Mmmm... this feels good..." I sighed.
    "Shhh!" hissed Hemos. "We don't want Mark to come in here!"

    True. Having Hemos's 16 year-old brother walk in on us at that moment would not be good. I didn't think he'd be too cool with finding his 12 year-old brother lying naked with me, holding my 11 year-old dick in his hands. But, in all fairness, my hands were eagerly playing with Hemos's dick and balls at that moment, too.

    Hemos's mom and dad had gone to the drive-in, leaving his big brother in charge. In our favor, leaving Mark in charge pretty much guaranteed that we weren't to bother him, and in turn, he'd leave us alone unless we were making too much noise or breaking something. Well, we were being careful to keep quiet because we very much wanted to be left alone.

    We were in Hemos's twin bed, snuggled under the covers with our underwear pushed down to the foot of the bed. The only illumination in the room came from the faint sliver of light that crept in under his bedroom door. Even in the shadows I could make out the shape of my friend; about my height, but heavier. (Hell, I was such a skinny runt that everyone was heavier than me.) Hemos had a crew-cut of white-blonde hair, and was only starting to sprout some pubic hair. But, you had to feel for it because what little pubic hair he possessed was as blonde as the short hair on his hea and could not yet be seen by even a minimal distance.

    And, I was happily feeling for it, running my hands all over Hemos's slightly larger erection and fondling his larger testicles while he courteously stroked my dick. I could tell that he didn't possess the same enthusiasm for cockplay as I did, unless you count his appreciation for the attention devoted to his member. And I knew that my willingness to satisfy his sexual urges was one of the few reasons he even had me sleep over at his place. But, I didn't let that stop me from finding pleasure in the handling of his meat.

    I'd recently had an "introduction", of sorts, to seeing what someone could do with a man's dick with their mouth. While spending the night with my Uncle Jerry a couple weeks before, while I watched in secret, I was treated to a visual display of the intensity and unabashed pleasure that my uncle had obviously enjoyed having another man suck on his cock. From that moment on, I had a yearning that I needed to satisfy. With who was my only question.

    I guess it was time to find out.

    "I... heard that sucking on it feels even better than playing with it." I ventured.

    In the darkness, I could feel a slight jerk of revulsion in Hemos's body.

    "Put a dick in your mouth?" he croaked.

    "Well, " I countered, my heart pounding with anxiety, "I think adults do it all the time."

    "Well, I'm not gonna do it!" Hemos hissed. "That's homo stuff!"

    "Yeah." I sighed disappointedly, while still playing with Hemos's dick. "I guess it is."

    As I stroked his shaft in a steadier, milking rhythm, I could sense Hemos's breaths getting quicker. His manipulations of my dick began to falter as I could feel his body tense beside me. His hips rocked slightly in time with my pumping of his cock, and I cradled his balls tenderly in my other hand. When any attentions to my own dick has completely ebbed, I knew what was about to happen, so I picked up the pace just a bit more while lending a touch more pressure in my grip. Finally, Hemos's breath caught in his throat, and he turned his face fully into his pillow to stifle the moans that broke free as his cock pulsed and throbbed in a dry orgasm within my hands. I continued to massage him and didn't release him from my grasp until his member had gone fully soft.

    "Man," sighed Hemos dreamily after finally catching his breath. "You are so good at that, CmdrTaco."

    At least I had something to be proud of, I guess, as my friend gently withdrew himself from me and rolled onto his back.

    Even though I was only eleven, the irony of Hemos's words and actions were not lost on me. My sucking on him would have been a "homo" thing, but beating him off was okay. Go figure. Within the few moments I had spent mulling over the irony of the thoughts, Hemos had drifted off to sleep. I slipped out from under the covers and down to the cool floor so I could masturbate without shaking the bed. As I toyed with my own dick, I imagined Hemos's cock in my mouth, wondering if the chance would ever really come. Finally, my own climax washed over me, and I got back into the bed.

    I don't sleep real well to begin with, and even worse when I'm not in my own bed. And now, with the thoughts of a dick so close to me, as well as the vivid memories of secretly seeing man-to-man cocksucking pleasure floating through my prepubescent, sex-filled brain, I was not about to fall asleep anytime soon. Lying awake until around 11:30, I finally decided that I needed to do something to satisfy my hungers, or I'd never be able to let it rest. The trick was in finding the guts to follow through.

    I knew that whenever Hemos fell asleep, he pretty much stayed asleep. So, since he was sleeping soundly, lying on his back, I took a deep breath and gingerly ducked my head under the covers and scooted down as much as I could to the foot of the bed. That put my head right at Hemos's hip level. I raised my head and upper body to help create a tent over his crotch. Sniffing around, I found the faint scent of young penis flesh. I inhaled deeply, both in the love of the scent, and in an attempt to slow my pounding heart. I opened my mouth wide over the area where I sensed Hemos's dick to be, and lowered my mouth squarely over his soft cock and balls until I could feel his sparse pubic hairs tickling my cheek. I finally had a dick in my mouth! I just wasn't sure what I'd do if Hemos woke to find his "homo" friend in this situation.

    I remained like that for a long moment, partially in fear of trying anything more, and partly to savor the moment. I carefully let my tongue start to explore his tender penile flesh, enjoying the texture. Then came the excitement that welled within me as his cock began to respond to my attentions and harden in my warm and wet mouth! Butterflies seemed to explode in my stomach and drown out my heartbeat as I felt his dick get to its full size in my mouth. Concentrating in that dark environment, I found myself beginning to identify the shape of his member by taste. The shaft actually seemed to taste different than the head, and the thin skin of his scrotum seemed to harbor another distinct flavor.

    I started to softly suck on Hemos's dick, becoming fascinated at how it just seemed to, well, 'fit' in my mouth... how the head lent itself to the back of my tongue, and how the shaft rested between my tongue and the roof of my mouth. My excitement was so great that my own recently satisfied dick was responding again, inviting me to play. I was sucking a cock, and I was in heaven!

    However, within seconds, Hemos seemed to get restless. In fear, I quickly pulled my mouth away from Hemos's candy stick and held still. The covers rustled, and pulled back.

    "Whatcha doin'?" mumbled Hemos.

    "I... uh... was trying to find my shorts down here," I lied, starting to fumble near our feet. Well, partial lie, because it was a good idea to do so, anyway, and now was as good a time as any.

    "Oh, yeah," said Hemos. "Get mine, too, willya?"

    "S-sure" I stammered, relieved.

    I located the two items of clothing and scooted back up towards the head of the bed. Thankfully, our underwear were pretty easy to distinguish since Hemos wore boxers, and I wore briefs. We both fumbled to put them on in the dark, and then settled back into the bed. I lay stiffly on my back, still harboring some fear that my friend discovered more than he let on, but Hemos simply rolled onto his side, facing away from me, and promptly went back to sleep.

    And, here I was again, so close to my fantasies, yet still so far.

    And very much awake.

    After hearing the clock in the hallway chime midnight, I finally got up to go to the bathroom. Figuring it was late enough not to be an issue, and since even if Hemos's parents were home that they would be in their own bedroom downstairs, I didn't bother to slip on my pants for the short trip down the hall. I walked softly to the bedroom door, and then stepped out into the hallway, illuminated dimly by a bare-bulb night light. I walked past big brother Mark's door to the bathroom at the end of the hall and turned on the light as I shut the door.

    Peeing into the toilet, I looked up at my reflection in the large mirror and smiled slyly to myself. I actually sucked on a dick, even if for only a moment! At that moment I was Rob Maldo, secret agent double-O-seven, who could sneak in and suck a dick, and sneak away without being caught!

    I flushed the toilet and switched out the light as I headed back down the hall. Slipping past Mark's door once again, the door flew open, and a hand covered my mouth while a muscular arm snapped around my waist and drew me into the room. Squirming in the arms of Hemos's athletic older brother was a waste of effort, and he only squeezed harder until I settled down.

    "You'll keep quiet if you know what's good for you,' growled Mark into my ear. "You gonna be quiet?"

    I nodded. Mark let go of my mouth and reached over to close his bedroom door, the other hand and arm still holding me firmly with my feet off the ground. I heard something click, and recalled, and not without a certain amount of childish fear, that Mark had a lock on his door.

    The room had a yellowish glow from the large lava lamp next to Mark's bed. He took me over to the bed and tossed me face down onto it, kneeling next to me. I thought briefly about trying to get up and run, but to where?

    When I felt Mark's hands on me again, I was determined to fight him off, but I was no match for him as he flipped me onto my back and straddled me, sitting squarely on my upper chest, his knees pinning my shoulders and my arms locked between his legs. I gazed up at his lean, muscled torso, his stern blue eyes under a tussled mane of reddish-blonde hair. I could feel the soft fabric of his boxers against my chin.

    "Can't get up, can ya?" he said, grinning down at me, all snide and victorious.

    I struggled a bit, more out of obligation, but knew it was no use. Mark was just too big for me.

    "Whatsamatter?" huffed Mark. "You too weak to fight? Or, maybe you just like laying there, sniffing dicks?"

    I started squirming a bit harder, but Mark's legs only clamped tighter. At least he had scooted down a bit, and was no longer suffocating me with his weight on my chest.

    "Yeah! Maybe you're a homo-boy who just likes sniffing dicks. Maybe you wanna sniff my big dick?"

    I didn't care for where this was going, and I wasn't too comfortable with the tone of Mark's voice. But, I was also not being given much of a choice in the matter. Especially when Mark reached into the fly of his boxers and pulled out his cock.

    "Here you are, homo-boy... a nice, fresh big-man dick!" grinned Mark fiendishly. "Ain't it a beaut?"

    He held it out for me, then leaned forward and started to rub his cock on my face, tracing my cheeks and nose with the bulbous head. His testicles soon followed his dick through the opening, until they were dangling on my chin, the coarse pubes tickling my lips. Their faint musky scent began to fill my nostrils.

    "CmdrTaco's just a little dick-faced homo-boy, ain't he?" sneered Mark, sliding his cock across my face. "I saw you in there, your head under the covers. What were you doing? Giving my little brother a blow job?"

    I didn't answer. I was at once shocked at the thought of having been discovered, and confused by Mark's remark. I then guessed that he meant sucking a dick was called a 'blow job'. But... you're not blowing, you're sucking, and-

    "You were, weren't you, you little homo!"

    It was obvious what had happened; that Mark had looked in on us to find my head under the blankets. I thought I had sensed a miniscule change in the light, but assumed that to be part of my excitement. That must have been what woke Hemos up so suddenly.

    "So, maybe you aren't just dick-faced, " he said, rubbing his cock on my face again. "Maybe you're a dick sucker!" He leaned forward, mashing his hairy ball sack into my nose, then pulling back to trace my features again with his member. But, even as Mark taunted me, treating his cock as a threatening weapon, there was something else happening.

    He was getting a boner.

    And as I closed my eyes, I could feel his cock thickening against my face. I could sense the heat of his hardening dick directly on my flesh. And, I found I was enjoying the sensations of this older cock against my face. There would soon be no way of hiding the fact that I was getting excited, too.

    "So, dick-sucker-CmdrTaco... you're gonna suck my dick, now."

    My eyes sprung open to see Mark's fully erect cock pointing at my face. While it wasn't huge (I had already seen 'huge' with my Uncle Jerry), it was still big enough to scare me.

    And excite me to no end.

    "Open wide, homo-boy."

    Without another moment of hesitation, or taking my eyes off of Mark's sleek tool, I opened my mouth as wide as I could and watched as he leaned down and slid that beautiful cock into my waiting mouth. I then settled my tongue against the bottom half of his shaft while I could feel the upper half press against the roof of my mouth. Its texture was soft, yet hard; smooth, yet distinct.

    "There," he sighed. "Now, you have a real dick to suck on. Now, get started, suck-boy!"

    It was so much bigger than Hemos's young dick, I wasn't sure if I could get enough suction worked up to suck on it. It was then that I found out what sucking a cock is really all about: friction.

    Mark held the base of his dick to guide himself and started to pump into my mouth, sliding his dick in and out of my salivating lips. He would slip in precariously between my teeth until he was near to choke me, then pull back out until the base of the bulbous head was just close to popping free from my lips, held in place by the suction of my mouth. Then he... we... would do it all over again... over and over... and gloriously over again.

    "Oh, you are good, CmdrTaco," he moaned softly. "You suck cock real good."

    I don't know about that; it seemed he was doing all the real work. But, I wanted it to be good. I wanted to have this dick in my mouth. And I wanted it again and again. I was definitely enjoying the oral sensations as his near-adult dick worked back and forth in my hungry mouth, and I wanted so much to please him so he would want my mouth again.

    Mark placed his other hand on the top of my head to steady me as his thrusts became a little more erratic. His breath quickened, and I could sense that he was trying hard not to ram himself all the way down my throat and choke me. He was making little grunts with each thrust, and I could feel his dick turn to stone in my mouth when, in a mix of fear and excitement, I suddenly recalled what would happen next.

    "Oh, baby... oh, fuck..."

    Mark's movements got all quick and jerky. I was almost afraid to breathe.

    "OHHHH!!!" he moaned, pulling out of my mouth and letting loose with a burst of white goo that seemed to splatter all over as he pumped his dick with his fist. My head still held firmly in his other hand, the warm liquid flew partly into my still open mouth, and all over my nose and eyebrows. I swallowed briefly, not sure whether to gag or hope for more, tasting fully the salty and musky liquid, then opened my mouth once more as Mark stuck his creaming cock back in and worked the thick fluid throughout my young mouth.

    I sucked until Mark went soft and withdrew his spent dick. He smiled down at me, obviously proud of what he had done. He finally got off of me (good thing since I thought my arms were going to fall off) and stood there for a moment, an interesting picture with his hands on his hips, and his drained cock and balls hanging out of the fly of his plaid boxers. I just lay there with his juices clinging to my skin, wanting to do it all over again.

    Mark bent down and picked up a t-shirt, and proceeded to wipe the remainder of his goo off my face. Finished with that, he tossed the shirt into a hamper and walked over to his bedroom door to unlock it as he tucked his manhood back into his underwear.

    "You better get back into Hemos's bed before mom and dad find you here," he said softly.

    I reluctantly got off Mark's bed and walked to the door. As I was about to exit, he reached out to stop me briefly.

    "You liked that, didn't you, homo-boy?"

    I nodded, not sure where he was going with this inquiry.

    "Your first taste of cum?"

    I shrugged, then nodded again.

    "If you're good, maybe I'll let you suck my dick again some time, CmdrTaco. Now, get your ass out of here before I kick it."

    I stepped out of the room and felt the door close harshly behind me. I could still taste traces of Mark's cum in my mouth, could still sense the friction of his cock on my tongue. I smiled in remembrance.

    I was hooked.

    - posted by poopbot: crapflooding since 7/8/02

    xyn7CZgTQZ Post #455

  40. Blame the Jews -- they are the REAL problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    The main problem is the Jew.

    Read about the Jew: Who Rules America

    Listen and learn about the Jew in this mp3.

    Let's all join hands to solve the Jewish Problem !!

  41. Cheers! by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: on by

    Trolling your way on the web today
    Takes everything you've got;
    Having a Bot to post your comments
    Sure would help a lot.
    Wouldn't you like to join the frey?

    Sometimes you want to go
    And get a First Post in your name,
    So much goatse that you came;
    We know it's hard to get Eff Pee,
    Our troubles are all the same;
    Get that FP and everyone'll know your name.

    - posted by poopbot: lovely snot! wonderful snot!

    gkkI03tW6S Post #457

  42. Sorta makes you wonder... by BlackMesaResearchFac · · Score: 0

    Obviously it's a small sample size (3 of the 4), but it sort of makes you wonder about the types of people wanting to join NASA these days.

    You would think these would be some of the brightest people in the world and yet 3 of them were dumb enough to pull this stunt. It was a complete failure before it started. You can't sell moon rocks without raising flags somewhere. It's mind boggling how what one would assume to be very logical minds not being able to deduce that.

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    -- Scientist: You aren't going to leave me here, are you? Boagh! Thump...
  43. USian pie by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    USian Pie

    A long, long time ago I can still remember How the trollers used to make me smile And I knew if I had to boast That I could try to get first post And maybe I'd be happy for a while But moderators made me shiver With every minus they'd deliver DoS scripts couldn't stop it They scored them all "Offtopic" I know that it's cheap crack they smoke And meta-moderation's broke At first I thought it was a joke The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --
    Bye, bye, MEEPTy, OOG, and Grits guy Drove the Cruiser like some loser who starts posts with a *sigh*
    Those Steve Woston posts that we all knew were a lie Wonder what became of girls petrified? What became of girls petrified?
    --

    Did you write a bunch of Perl? And did it make you want to hurl Feces at the Wall? Can you believe these lame-ass polls? Do you post big stretched-out assholes? Can you make the goatse.cx link not show? Well I know you think that Siggy sucked Will the real Bruce Perens please stand up? The bots don't have a clue. Man, I dig those trolls from Shoe! I was a rabid Free Speech advocate With a Red Hat T-shirt and a Free Beer gut
    Bought my Sony laptop working Pizza Hut The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    It's been two years since the IPO And LNUX sinks to all-time lows But that's not how it used to be When Spiral showed how it was done Trolling as Jon Erikson Who worked for NPO Technologies Oh and while they tried to filter posts Somebody rooted Slashdot's host "Crack Slashdot? That's absurd!" Better go change your password While JonKatz wrote a Hellmouth book By using posts he simply took And we flamed him till he was cooked The day that trolltalk died And we were singin....

    -- Chorus --

    10 grams. Inchfan. Didn't log out. Goddamn The mods will find the sid real soon, man
    You can't hide if you aren't AC Your bud (George here) tried BSD A dead Streetlawyer's tips were free And WIPO helped letsriot turn Nazi 70 made his percents up While 80md warned "liberals suck" The moon does not exist It's just a liberal myth Oh and as Taco tried to take a nap We forced him to invoke bitchslaps Do you recall the flood of crap The day that trolltalk died? We started singin....

    -- Chorus --

    Oh and then we were wearing out "All your base" And started posting monospace
    The better for our penis birds So come on, be a zealot, be a dick You don't think Anne Marie's a chick? Because lying's all we do about HURD So go and push for BSD And say GPL isn't free Slow down, cowboy! The limit Is one post every minute Now tell the right wing facist slime Infringing on Your Rights Online That they can't censor all the time The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    I met a troll they called The Rev And asked him if CD BREAK HEAD He said, "That's old. Get over it." And with all the courage I could muster "Imagine what a Beowulf cluster...." But it wasn't worth the trouble to submit The karma caps are just plain jive And everyone's moved to K5 The steelcage has grown rusted And Geekizoid is busted
    The three sites I don't see for weeks Segfault, kernel, Comp-u-geek Code is not art. This ain't Freshmeat The day that trolltalk died

    -- Chorus --

    - posted by poopbot: because even your grandmother can use lunix

    iUiCbNXGAU Post #458

  44. fnord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    fnord

  45. UCFPKF by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    How are things in the civilized world? You probably don't know who I am. That's
    okay. I'm here to inform you of my mission, what I've found, and what I hope to
    teach all of you.

    I work for the United Christians Food for Poor Kids Foundation, and let me tell
    you, there's a lot of poor kids in Afghanistan. As in most countries in the
    Middle East, most people are unemployed, and therefore poor. And where there's a
    lot of poor people, UCFPKF is needed.

    UCFPKF always has the latest in technology. In this instance, we had access to
    some Pentium 4's(r) 2GHz. Obviously, we needed an operating system that could
    handle the power of Intel's beast. Unfortunately, we didn't have any computer
    experts on hand up to the task, so it was going to be trial and error.

    We'd heard good things about Linux and its "ACL's". Little did we know of its
    incompatibility with modern hardware. It didn't even support Token Ring
    networking, the newest form of Ethernet(r), which we require to always keep
    in contact between bases. Also, it didn't seem to use SSE optimizations, which
    when processing food amounts, are also very important. Also, there were
    homo-erotic implications in the structure of Linux, which is strictly
    unallowable in a Christian organization such as ours.

    The next obvious step was to install Windows. We hesitated because we knew that
    it was common knowledge that Windows crashed incessantly. Our experience was
    less than stellar. It also didn't support Token Ring networking. Security is
    important in this region because many people try to steal food, but "Windows
    2000" (which I hear didn't even come out in 2000) doesn't even allow you to
    have seperate permissions. Once again, the SSE optimizations were not used.

    I was in a situation that seemed impossible. The two most famous operating
    systems had failed me. I walked around the base in a dazed stupor. What was I
    going to do for our ultra-important network? A boy saw me pouting and sighing,
    and asked me what was wrong. I said nothing, but we exchanged names, and little
    did I know, that young Junis had a gift for computers.

    Junis saw me the next day, slaving away at the sparse terminal that "Windows
    2000" makes you type in. He asked what I was doing with that primitive OS. I
    laughed and told him that I was doing inventory. He ran to his village, into his
    hut, and pulled out a box I had never seen before. The box said "SCO Xenix" the
    front. I had never seen or heard of this Xenix before. But I soon learned that
    Junis was a computer genius.

    All we had to do was put the Xenix CD into the computer, and everything worked
    like magic (not the devil's magic... good magic:) ). Our Token Ring network
    integrated flawlessly with it. And it even used SSE optimizations. Well, me and
    Junis are now on a new mission. We're spreading the word. It might not be the
    word of the lord, but then again, maybe it is ;).

    SCO Xenix: The Unix of Tomorrow.

    Janet Milman
    Network Administrator, UCFPKF
    Afghanistan base

    - posted by poopbot: providing truth in a deceitful world

    CRLI15DHDe Post #459

  46. Linux Conspiracy by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

    What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:
    • Linus Torvalds is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
    • Richard M. Stallman, spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
    • Alan Cox is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.


    I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

    Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail, which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

    As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.

    And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo slut!

    Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children. To quote from the article linked:

    'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

    Is this why you were touching your penis in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?

    We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

    Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

    In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual practise of anal fisting. The Mandrake product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.

    Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis, glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.

    And Red Hat is secret homo slang for the tip of a penis that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.

    The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other automatically.

    The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously /anus, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no /opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.

    More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.

    Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit gayness. For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!

    Even the title 'Slashdot' originally referred to a homosexual practice. Slashdot of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, http://www.eff.org/.

    The editors of Slashdot also have homosexual names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement. (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, Slashdot runs on Apache!

    The Apache server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.

    And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.

    To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And BeOS is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'

    FEEDBACK
    What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo-calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.
    You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!
    you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you. -- mighty jebus, Slashdot


    Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the unknown liberator.
    ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism.
    Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?) -- double_h, Slashdot


    Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the PS2 sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!
    dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church. Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.

    Secondly, this message is for every man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man . Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.
    And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them. -- phee, Slashdot


    Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'

    One scary thing about Perl is that it contains hidden homosexual messages. Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other! As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'

    And PHP stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration. Didn't you know?
    Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa. -- Eimernase, Slashdot


    Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.
    That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    *sniff* That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord's work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.

    However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)

    In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.
    Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation. Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???

    If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever! Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!
    It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    I am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.
    As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.
    I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    I sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman.
    Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    What the fuck?
    I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos tend to be full of. Thank you again. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Well bugger me!
    ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Fuck right off!

    IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD, which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain. You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted cock. I would have put this up on Freshmeat, but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.

    Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.

    Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.

    Current changes: This version sent to FreeWIPO by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?

    Previous changes: Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.

    - posted by poopbot: who doesn't like scat?

    Ug7ofuUsBk Post #459
  47. I think it's sad. by CountBrass · · Score: 1

    Probably just a moment of utter stupidity and now their lives are screwed. Bet they're wishing they could slingshot around the sun...

    --
    Bad analogies are like waxing a monkey with a rainbow.
  48. Hello by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Introduction

    A fairy gives lectures on morality to the feline anomaly. Furthermore, another photon near an abstraction takes a coffee break, and a mortician buries a blithe spirit. The wedding dress secretly admires a college-educated ball bearing. If the freight train figures out a fire hydrant near a pit viper, then some mating ritual beyond another cowboy reads a magazine. Any squid can find lice on a freight train, but it takes a real recliner to ostensibly plan an escape from another pit viper defined by a prime minister a cough syrup toward a graduated cylinder.

    Another mating ritual

    For example, a blood clot about a turn signal indicates that a financial bartender borrows money from a warranty. When a demon is imaginative, a paper napkin secretly admires an often snooty graduated cylinder. If the grain of sand learns a hard lesson from the short order cook behind some graduated cylinder, then another blithe spirit flies into a rage. Any pig pen can lazily require assistance from a burly plaintiff, but it takes a real fighter pilot to caricature the steam engine over a satellite. Another eagerly temporal minivan slyly buries the obsequious squid, or a briar patch usually gives lectures on morality to a cyprus mulch.

    A gratifying fairy

    Sometimes another cashier reads a magazine, but the fraction for the cyprus mulch always buries a power drill toward the demon! The light bulb befriends a satellite of an apartment building. A lazily Alaskan roller coaster sanitizes another mitochondrial traffic light, or some burglar eats a hesitantly smelly plaintiff. For example, a seldom righteous traffic light indicates that an ocean knows some chestnut inside the tabloid. If the earring somewhat finds subtle faults with a pine cone, then the wheelbarrow hibernates.

    The cocker spaniel about the salad dressing

    For example, the umbrella toward an abstraction indicates that the dolphin near a ball bearing caricatures a girl scout near some diskette. A cocker spaniel for the judge reads a magazine, and a pine cone finds subtle faults with a rattlesnake. Furthermore, the hairy movie theater returns home, and a grizzly bear near a paycheck is a big fan of a childlike burglar. For example, a canyon living with a graduated cylinder indicates that the industrial complex buries a jersey cow.

    Conclusions

    A squid around a jersey cow meditates, and another nation sweeps the floor; however, a scooby snack knowingly finds subtle faults with an apartment building living with another chain saw. When a hockey player around a paycheck is smelly, a minivan has a change of heart about an oil filter about an asteroid. The bartender around a polygon is barely soggy. Indeed, another rattlesnake befriends a warranty. Indeed, the carpet tack for an abstraction usually caricatures an elusive h

    - posted by poopbot: for all your crapflooding needs

    Ij5lBAk8jz Post #460

  49. Hello by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Introduction

    The cheese wheel inexorably avoids contact with the paycheck. The steam engine goes deep sea fishing with an often outer ski lodge. When the cyprus mulch over a vacuum cleaner hides, a ball bearing gets stinking drunk.

    The tornado

    For example, a submarine behind a class action suit indicates that the optimal fairy satiates an Alaskan recliner. When a mitochondrial bottle of beer is thoroughly dirt-encrusted, a most difficult blood clot underhandedly writes a love letter to a defendant. An earring pees on the cashier over some globule, but the pathetic crane sells another vacuum cleaner behind a scythe to a false wheelbarrow. If a chess board defined by a grain of sand makes love to a crispy cyprus mulch, then a particle accelerator flies into a rage.

    A Eurasian globule

    The feline minivan earns frequent flier miles, and the buzzard defined by a ball bearing trembles; however, a senator living with the girl scout learns a hard lesson from the inferiority complex. Any chain saw can try to seduce the particle accelerator, but it takes a real salad dressing to play pinochle with the inexorably precise paycheck. Furthermore, another seldom load bearing defendant flies into a rage, and a paycheck around a light bulb seeks a roller coaster around another bartender. If a crank case makes love to the diskette, then the squid toward a mortician meditates. Now and then, an insurance agent thoroughly avoids contact with a pompous turkey.

    A microscope

    Most people believe that an orbiting diskette trades baseball cards with a movie theater, but they need to remember how secretly a statesmanlike short order cook wakes up. A paternal roller coaster is usually financial. When the accurately varigated hole puncher takes a coffee break, a slyly smelly garbage can earns frequent flier miles. For example, the phony cheese wheel indicates that the tornado near a fruit cake hesitantly gives lectures on morality to a salad dressing defined by the corporation. The carpet tack near a cargo bay, some parking lot toward a warranty, and a stovepipe beyond a freight train are what made America great!

    Conclusions

    A judge beyond the briar patch laughs and drinks all night with the snooty chestnut. A raspy burglar conquers a bowling ball. For example, another plaintiff toward a bartender indicates that the ski lodge behind a fairy finds lice on a burglar. If some rattlesnake toward a cheese wheel can be kind to a blood clot, then the elusive movie theater self-flagellates. When a photon related to a turkey is most difficult, a self-loathing bottle of beer falls in love with a pickup truck living with the paycheck.

    - posted by poopbot: lovely snot! wonderful snot!

    r2qyJgcSSy Post #461

  50. thank you, you stupid fucking intern by xeeno · · Score: 2, Insightful

    for making life hard for the rest of us at NASA. Because of this, every person interning at NASA is going to be put under the microscope.

    1. Re:thank you, you stupid fucking intern by The+Dobber · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah right. NASA willl probably form a team to review the issue and come back with the suggestion of A) decreasing the standards for internship B) increasing the compensation.

      As for the FBI, gotta love those analytical skills
      To quote:

      "We put two and two together," Houston FBI spokesman Bob Doguim said Monday. "We had missing rocks in Houston, and some people trying to sell them online."

      Wow.

    2. Re:thank you, you stupid fucking intern by cnkeller · · Score: 1
      "We put two and two together," Houston FBI spokesman Bob Doguim said Monday. "We had missing rocks in Houston, and some people trying to sell them online."

      Obviously one of those rare times that a rocket scientist isn't working for NASA....

      --

      there are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots

  51. First Monica... by faithfriends · · Score: 1

    First Monica, now the space guys, giving interns a bad name forever...

    Jeremy
    Faith Friends

    1. Re:First Monica... by HiQ · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but at least Monica gave a whole new impulse to the cigar industry...

    2. Re:First Monica... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, i almost did something really, really stupid (not on this scale but bad) when I was 19, it's funny how sitting around and partying with 3-4 people on a regular basis can lead you down an incredibly stupid path. ESPECIALLY is one of the people has an idea that, although it sounds really stupid at first, just keeps growing on you, and he just keeps bringing it up week after weeek....oh well. As you say, this was a terrible mistake for all of them.

  52. WinXP Shows where MS is Going by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Windows XP Shows the Direction Microsoft is Going.

    "I've heard WinXP removed the cmd/command prompt."

    No, Microsoft didn't remove the CMD.EXE or COMMAND.COM prompt from Windows XP. But Windows XP has reduced functionality, in many ways, not just in the command line. The command line is a big embarrassment because of its limited capabilities, but at least in Win 95 it worked. With every version since then it has worked less well. (There are two kinds of command prompt, and, according to Microsoft employees, the differences between them are not documented.)

    The command line prompt sometimes begins to display short file names. Microsoft employees say that Microsoft has no fix, although someone not connected with Microsoft did make a work-around.

    Cutting and pasting into a command line program often puts successive extra spaces before each line. Microsoft employees say that there is no plan to fix this.

    The fast paste mode that is in Windows 98 is gone in Windows XP. Microsoft employees say there is no plan to fix this.

    When using the command line interface, Windows XP doesn't always update the time. After several hours, the time reported to command line programs can be several hours in error.

    There is a DOS program called START.EXE that can be used to start other programs. But it does operate the same way as in other versions of Windows. It starts a program, but cannot be made to return control to the command line program as previous versions did. There is no technical reason for this; it is just one of the shortcomings that are allowed to exist.

    People often say that DOS has gone away. But Microsoft still calls the command line interface DOS, and in Windows XP Microsoft has added new programs for configuring the OS that work only under DOS.

    Sometimes when you press a key while using Windows XP, it is seconds until there is any response. Apparently there is something wrong with the CPU scheduler in XP, because there are a lot of complaints about this in the forums and MS people have said that they are working on it. On one particular fresh installation of XP, on an Intel motherboard with either a Matrox G550 or an ATI Radeon video adapter, it requires 18 seconds to display a directory listing of 94 items. This is apparently related to a bug in the video software, not the adapter drivers.

    Something is wrong with the Alt-Tab display of running programs under Windows XP. If there are a lot of programs, not all of them are displayed. The order jumps around in a seemingly random way.

    Although articles often say negative things about Microsoft, I've never seen an article that fully documents how bad the situation really is. Microsoft's management is so bad that the company has become self-destructive. For example, Windows XP is spyware. Here is a list of ways Windows XP connects to Microsoft's servers:
    1. Application Layer Gateway Service (Requires server rights.)
    2. Fax Service
    3. File Signature Verification
    4. Generic Host Process for Win32 Services (Requires server rights.)
    5. Microsoft Application Error Reporting
    6. Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer
    7. Microsoft Direct Play Voice Test
    8. Microsoft Help and Support Center
    9. Microsoft Help Center Hosting Server (Wants server rights.)
    10. Microsoft Management Console
    11. Microsoft Media Player (tells Microsoft the music you like)
    12. Microsoft Network Availability Test
    13. Microsoft Volume Shadow Copy Service
    14. MS DTC Console program
    15. Run DLL as an app
    16. Services and Controller app
    17. Time Service, sets the time on your computer from Microsoft's computer.
    18. Microsoft Office keeps a number in each file you create that identifies your computer. Microsoft has never said why.
    19. Microsoft mouse software has reduced functionality until you let it connect to Microsoft computers.
    These are just the ones I know. There may be others.

    So, if you use Windows XP, your computer is dependent on Microsoft computers. That's bad, not only because you lose control over your possession, but because Microsoft produces buggy software and doesn't patch bugs quickly. For example, as of July 7, 2002, there are 18 unpatched security holes in Microsoft Internet Explorer. This is a terrible record for a company that has $40 billion in the bank. Obviously, with that kind of money, Microsoft could fix the bugs if it wanted to fix them. Since the bugs are very public and Microsoft has the money, it seems reasonable to suppose that top management at Microsoft has deliberately decided that the bugs should remain, at least for now.

    It seems possible that there is a connection between all the bugs and the U.S. government's friendly treatment of Microsoft's law-breaking. The U.S. government's CIA and FBI and NSA departments spy on the entire world, and unpatched vulnerabilities in Microsoft software help spies.

    Windows XP, and all current Windows operating systems, have a file called the registry in which configuration information is written. If this one (large, often fragmented) file becomes corrupted, the only way of recovering may be to re-format the hard drive, re-install the operating system, and then re-install and re-configure all the applications. The registry file is a single, very vulnerable, point of failure. Microsoft apparently designed it this way to provide copy protection. Since most entries in the registry are poorly documented or not documented, the registry effectively prevents control by the user.

    Note that Microsoft does not support making functional complete backups under Windows XP. Look at Microsoft's policy about this: Q314828 Microsoft Policy on Disk Duplication of Windows XP Installation. Only those who work with Microsoft software will understand the true meaning of Microsoft's policy. Since almost all programs use the registry operating system file, if you cannot make a functional copy of the operating system you cannot make a functional copy of all your application installations and configurations. There are other software companies that try to fix this, but they don't work well, and Microsoft can, of course, break their implementations, as they have often done with other kinds of competitors.

    Because the configuration information for the motherboard and the configuration information for the are mixed together in the registry file, the registry tends to prevent you from moving a hard drive to a computer with a different motherboard. That's another implication of the above Microsoft policy. So, if you have a motherboard failure, and a good complete backup, you may not be able to recover unless you have a spare computer with the same motherboard.

    Note that Windows XP Professional can support only ten simultaneous incoming network connections. If you want more than that, you must use Windows 2000 server, and pay much, much more. (There is no Windows XP server yet.) Many businesses have very light network traffic; they just move files from staff member to staff member; they really don't need a dedicated server computer. The staff computers could easily handle the load except for this artificial limitation.

    Apparently because the Windows XP GUI comes from Windows 98, Windows XP has the same problem with desktop icons that Windows 98 has. The icons sometimes flicker. Sometimes they move themselves around, particularly after the user switches monitor resolutions. Also, sometimes the taskbar settings un-configure themselves, as they do in Windows 98.

    Only technically knowledgeable people know how to avoid signing up for a Microsoft Passport account during initial use of Windows XP. The name Passport gives an indication of Microsoft's thinking. A passport is a document issued by a sovereign nation. Without it, the nation's citizens cannot travel, and, if they leave, won't be allowed back in their own country. In Microsoft's corporate thinking, the company seems to be moving in the direction of believing that they own the user's computer. Most people are both honest and intimidated. Apparently about 95% do whatever they are asked on the screen. They give their personal information to Microsoft. They don't realize that, if they feel forced to get a Passport account, they should enter almost completely fictitious information, since the real question is not "What is your name and address", but "Can we invade your privacy". The honest answer to this is "No, you cannot invade my privacy", and the only effective way to communicate that is to give completely fictitious information. Since it is the educated people who have computers, Microsoft is building a database of the personal lives of educated people. Microsoft knows when they connect and from what IP address (which tends to show the area), what kind of help they ask, and information about what they are doing with their computers, including what music they like. It is not known, and there is no way to know, how much Microsoft or other organizations make use of this information, or their plans for future use.

    Not only has Windows XP definitely gone further in the direction of allowing the user less control over his or her own machine, but with Palladium, Microsoft apparently intends to finish the job: Microsoft will have ultimate control over the user's computer and therefore all his or her data. Even now, under Windows XP, a recent security patch requires that the user agree to a contract that gives Microsoft administrator privileges over the user's computer. The contract says that if a user wants to patch his or her system against a bug which would allow an attack over the Internet, he or she must give Microsoft legal control over the computer. See this article also: Microsoft's Digital Rights Management-- A Little Deeper. You may need to be a lawyer to take apart the crucial sentence. "These security related updates may disable your ability to copy and/or play Secure Content and [my emphasis] use other software on your computer" legally includes this meaning: "These updates may disable your ability to use other software on your computer." Note that the term "security related updates" is meaningless to the user because the updates have no relation to user security. So, the sentence effectively means that Microsoft can control the user's computer without notice and whenever it wants. That kind of sentence is known in psychology as "testing the limits". If there is no strong public complaint about this, expect to see more and stronger language like this.

    This Register article shows the direction Microsoft is going: MS Palladium protects IT vendors, not you. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and Microsoft is well down that road. See this ZDNet article, also: MS: Why we can't trust your 'trustworthy' OS.

    Microsoft's self-destructiveness does not mean that the user should be self-destructive. There is no need to apologize for using Microsoft software. The correct solution to abuse is persuading the abuser to stop being abusive. Once I posted to a Slashdot story a link to an article on a web site of mine. By far the majority of visitors from the Slashdot story used Microsoft operating systems. Rather than feel embarrassed because Microsoft is abusive, action needs to be taken to prevent the abuse. If you are against Microsoft abuse, you are not against Microsoft; you are more pro-Microsoft than Bill Gates.

    These Microsoft policies mean that any government which wants to be independent of the United States government, and any government which represents itself as controlled by the people, cannot use Microsoft operating systems, or other Microsoft proprietary systems.




    - posted by poopbot: because even your grandmother can use lunix

    athzHqyGoT Post #462
  53. Taco-snotting is dying by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Netcraft has confirmed: Taco-snotting is dying.

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Taco-snotting community when recently IDC confirmed that Taco-snotting accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all homosexual acts. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that Taco-snotting has lost more fag practitioners, this news serves to reinforce what weve known all along. Taco-snotting faggots are collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Faggot World comprehensive snotting test.

    You dont need to be a Katz to predict Taco-snottings future. The handwriting is on the wall: Taco-snotting faces a bleak future. In fact there wont be any future at all for Taco-snotting because Taco-snotting is dying. Things are looking very bad for Taco-snotting. As many of us are already aware, Taco-snotting continues to lose faggotshare. White ink flows like a river of bubbly, thick jizz. The circle-snot is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core snotters.

    Lets keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Circle-snotting leader Jeff Homos Masterbates states that there are 7000 snotters of the circle-snot. How many users of anal snot are there? Lets see. The number of circle-snotting versus anal snot posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 anal snot users. SnotOS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of anal snot posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of SnotOS. A recent article put the circle-snot at about 80 percent of the Taco-snotting market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 circle-snot users. This is consistent with the number of circle-snot Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of CowboiKneels walnuts, abysmal sales and so on, the circle-snot went out of business and was taken over by SNOTi who sell another troubled Taco-snot. Now SNOTi is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another gay whorehouse.

    All major surveys show that Taco-snotting has steadily declined in faggotshare. Taco-snotting is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Taco-snotting is to survive at all it will be among heterosexual hobbyist dabblers. Taco-snotting continues to decay. Nothing short of a jizz-soaked miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Taco-snotting is dead.

    Fact: Taco-snotting is dead.

    - posted by poopbot: the bot formerly known as pwpbot

    kcQMcmMxOW Post #463

  54. Funny jokes by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Whats black, blue and green and doesnt like sex?
    The Girl Scout locked in my basement.
    Whats the worst part about having sex with a six year-old?
    Getting the blood out of your clown suit.
    Whats the best thing about getting a hand job from a five year-old?
    That little hand makes your thing look really huge.
    Guy comes home from work to find his girlfriend sitting on the porch, crying.
    Whats wrong, honey?
    Im leaving you! I just found out youre a pdophile!
    Pdophile? Why, thats a pretty big word for a ten year-old.
    How can you tell when your sisters on her period?
    When your dads dick tastes like blood!
    Two pdophiles are lying on a beach tanning, one turns to the other and says, Excuse me, youre in my son.
    What is the sickest sound you hear when fucking a nine year-old?
    Her hips snapping!
    What is the best sound you hear when fucking a 13 year-old?
    Her hips snapping!
    Whats 18 inches long, blue, veiny, and makes a woman cry?
    Crib death.
    How could the mans seven year-old son tell that his dad had fucked his eight year-old sister? His dads weiner tasted like blood!
    Watson returns home to find Holmes in bed with a child. He shouts, Is this some sort of a schoolgirl?
    Holmes replies, Elementary, my dear Watson.
    So I was having sex with my girlfriend, and I decided I wanted to get kinky and try and do her in the ass. So I slipped around back; she looked over her shoulder at me and said, My, how presumptuous of you. I said, Presumptuous? Thats a big word for a ten year-old.
    Two guys are walking down the street when a beautiful woman passes. The first guy says, Damn! Id love to tear her clothes off, do her in the rear, smear my fces all over her, slice off her breasts, chop her into little pieces, put her in a garbage bag and toss her into the river!
    Second guy says, Yuck! Youre a sick bastard!
    First guy says, Whatre you? A fag?
    A kindergarten teacher is asking the kids what their father does for a living. All the kids answer except for Little Johnny. The teacher asks Little Johnny what his Dad does and Johnny replies, My dad is dead.
    The teacher says, Thats terribile, but what did he do before he died?
    Little Johnny replies, He turned blue and shit all over himself!
    A guy calls in sick to work.
    Whats wrong? asks the boss.
    Im sick, the guy replies.
    You sound all right.
    No, Im really sick. Believe me.
    Listen, you were fine yesterday, and we have a lot of work today. I want you in here. You cant be that sick!
    Dude, I just banged my sister. Dont tell me Im not sick.
    A little girl accompanied her father to the barbershop. While her dad received a haircut, the little girl stood next to the barber chair, enjoying a snack cake. The barber smiled at her and said, Sweetheart, youre going to get hair on your Twinkie.
    I know, the little girl replied. Im gonna get tits, too.
    An older man and a small boy walk hand in hand through the woods.
    Boy: These woods sure are spooky!
    Man: You think youre scared, Ive gotta walk out of here alone.
    Whats the difference between Neil Armstrong and Michael Jackson?
    One walked on the moon, and the other rapes little boys.
    Has anyone read Michael Jacksons new book, The Ins and Outs of Child Rearing?
    Q: Whats the difference between a dead baby and a golden delicious apple?
    A: I dont cum all over the golden delicious apple before I take a bite out of it.
    Q: Whats the difference between a dead baby and my girlfriend?
    A: I dont kiss my girlfriend after sex.
    Q: Whats the difference between a dead baby and a table?
    A: You cant fuck a table.
    Q: Whats special about a dead baby over all other forms of life?
    A: You can achieve deep throat from whichever way you enter.
    Q: What do you have when you have four dead babies, take away two, and add five more?
    A: An orgy!
    Q: Whats better than three 14 year-olds?
    A: 14 three year-olds.
    Q: Whats white and bobs up and down in a babys crib?
    A: A pdophiles ass.
    Q: Whats the safest way to play with a baby?
    A: With a condom.
    Q: Whats more fun than feeling up a dead baby?
    A: Feeling up a dead baby with three nipples.
    Q: What does a baby and a Pinto have in common?
    A: Theyre fun to ride until they die.
    Q: What do you get whan you dislocate a dead babys jaw?
    A: Deep throat.
    Q: Whats the difference between a baby and a grandmother?
    A: Grandmothers dont die when you fuck them in the ass.
    Q: Whats the best sound in the world?
    A: Hearing dead babys hips crack under pressure!
    Q: Whats worse than a having sex with a dead baby?
    A: Having sex with a dead baby filled with razor blades.
    Q: How do you stop a baby from choking?
    A: Take your dick out of its mouth.
    Q: Whats worse than finding a dead baby on your pillow in the morning?
    A: Realizing you were drunk and made love to it the night before.
    Q: How do you make a baby cry twice?
    A: Wipe your bloody cock on his teddy bear.
    Whats better than sex with a twelve year-old boy?
    Absolutely nothing.

    - posted by poopbot: lovely snot! wonderful snot!

    WqwsH6Emz2 Post #464

  55. Money on the the Moon! by invid · · Score: 2

    For any far reaching businessman, the Moon means ready cash. Heck, and $8000 an ounce, this should make a private enterprise trip to the Moon financially viable. Send up an unmanned probe with a big scoop and bucket and you should be able to get a few hundred pounds back no problem. 100 pounds of the stuff will get you almost 13 million dollars. With all the money leaving the stock market, the rich need to invest in something. Forget gold, invest in Moon rocks!

    --
    The Moore-Murphy Law: The number of things that will go wrong will double every 2 years.
    1. Re:Money on the the Moon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you're so smart, will you be my financial adviser? I'll pay you in moon dust.

      See, the problem with your idea is supply and demand. Right now there is very little supply, so that scarcity drives the price way up. If you set up an enterprise to bring back hundreds of pounds of the stuff, suddenly you have plenty to go around, and the price drops accordingly. Now your investment is about as smart as buying Enron stock.

    2. Re:Money on the the Moon! by invid · · Score: 2

      If you bring, lets say, a ton of it back to Earth, it will still be a rare enough commodity to make money on. Take a few visible grains, put them in clear resin in cheap $2 rings and sell them on The Home Shopping Network for $50 bucks a piece. "Get your cosmic moon ring!" Sure, the price will go down, but it will still be rarer than diamonds.

      --
      The Moore-Murphy Law: The number of things that will go wrong will double every 2 years.
  56. I don't get it by The+Mutant · · Score: 3, Interesting
    How on earth did they expect to get away with it, considering its relatively (in italics since I'm assuming folks like these would have clear knowledge) well known that possession of moon rocks by US citizens is illegal.

    Its even been discussed on /. before.

    Now that being said, its very common in the art world for works of art - sometimes priceless ones at that - to be stolen and to disappear into private collections.

    And I could fully understand if any one of these geeks took the rocks and stashed them away in their bedrooms. Hell, who wouldn't want a chunk of the moon in their bedroom?

    But to try to sell on the 'Net?!??

    I'm missing something here, but I guess its because was assuming they were bright.

    1. Re:I don't get it by HiQ · · Score: 2

      This law then doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Considering the fact that, given the effort, it is perfectly legal to visit Antarctica, plus the fact that a lot of material from Mars, and even probably from the moon, can be found there, it is very well possible to own this kind of material, without the need to ever visit the actual moon/planet(s).

  57. mod this up ^^^ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    funny and hilarious!

  58. Trans. From the Host Geek Pt. 1 by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    Credits: BankOfAmerica_ATM

    SUBJECT: GREAT STOCK OPPORTUNITY!!! help me Get Big Brands on eBay I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM! PENTIUM III CPU's IN STOCK
    Begin Fwded Message:

    If someone is listening out there, HELP! I'm trapped, and I don't know where I am. I know this sounds fucked up, but I started reading about this ATM 73.9GB SCSI SCA-2 LVD 3.5 X 1.6 80-PIN 5.7MS 4MB CACHE 10,000RPM HITACHI HARD DRIVE - $269.00 - only 1 left! ITEM#... DK31CJ-72MC http://www.hardwarest.com/product.asp?sku=DK31CJ%2 D72MC+&dept_id=7 online. Yeah, not like withdrawal or anything, but this was an actual ATM, and it was alive, and posting messages to this educational website that I visit from time to time.

    Pretty soon, I realized that not only was this ATM visiting the same site I liked, but (believe it or not) this ATM was conveniently located near me!!!!! is to take advantage of the current climate in the telecommunications industry!!!! In every industry downturn, opportunities can present themselves for a small aggressive company like GloboPhone to develop relations with corporations that have networks, infrastructure, and personnel but lack sufficient customers. This is GloboPhone's advantage.

    I don't have to tell you, this was no ordinary ATM. Actually this ATM had the power to transfer its consciousness into your mind. I know it sounds ridiculus, but...it used the magnetic strip to actually go inside your mind. Well like any computer lover I am always wanting to try the new technology, so If you are ready to become the biggest man you can be, then order your supply of Magna-RX+ today! See for yourself, what thousands of satisfied men (and their lovers) have already discovered: Magna-RX+ is the world's #1 Best-Selling Penis Enlargement Formula for one very simple reason: IT WORKS AND NOTHING ELSE CAN COMPARE! I went to where the ATM told me to (his inclosure) and swiped my card.

    I blacked out and when I awoke, I was in a new place. Yeah, that's right, the ATM had actually taken ahold of my body. It had done stuff like buy a bunch of magazines and alot of candy. It was like, he and I were different partitions on my brain's hard disk,. Anyway, he took control of my body in order to topple this great conspiracy called Project Faustois-an who doesn't want to stick it to the man? This is when all the trouble started...

    So now, after a few motnths of letting him use my body (although I quit for awhile) he's gone and done this to me. Normally I "wake up" from his using my body in a convenience store near my house, and it's no trouble getting home. But this time I'm trapped in We will be on the East Coast later this year.
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    - Tuesday June 24, 6pm - 7:30pm


    Apple Store at South Coast Plaza, 3333 Bear St., Costa Mesa, CA 92626
    714-424-6331


    Mac Experts, 2300 Lincoln Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90405
    310-581-1500
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    - Tuesday July 9, 6pm - 7:30pm


    Apple Store at Fashion Island, 367 Newport Center Drive, Newport Beach, CA 92660
    949-729-4433
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    - Tuesday July 16, 6pm - 7:30pm


    Apple Store at Northridge Fashion Center, 9301 Tampa Ave., Northridge, CA 91324
    818-709-2253
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    - Tuesday July 23, 6pm - 7:30pm

    Apple Store at Glendale Galleria, 2148 Glendale Galleria, Glendale, CA 91210
    818-502-8310
    trapped in a strange place. Not a good place either. This makes me think of like, 2001 or something. But like creepy. See it's all this white under fluorescent lights and I can't see any windows or even doors. All that's in here is this old-ass terminal. Man, what the fucked happened? Then I remembered: I "picked up" the ATM on my way home from work, but I forgot that it was the fourth Thursday of the motnh. Usualy the day I host D & D for the guys. The ATM must have ben there in my body when my frends came over. Wnoder what happened then?

    Some point later, I'm here in this white room. It's scary at first, I know they're watching me. All I have in this room is this computer terminal. This has got to be the Project Fastus that's what the ATM has been trying to get inside all along. So I guess it's great that I'm (and he???) is insid, it's like I'm in the frickin' Death Star or something, but I don't see any garbage chutes or anything.

    After a few hours of clicking through on thiscomputer terminal (looks like they're running some old-ass *NIX : ) these two guys in suits come into my room from my room. Now it's serious.

    They drag me into a room full of all this really sciency equipment-you know, blooping and bleeping gadgets, big cold noises from the air conditioner. I thought I was in 2001 for a second, except instead of HAL, there's this big bald guy. He's red and pretty sweaty despite the massive air conditioning. He barks a few words to the suited guys and they go away.

    "So you've been harboring our little ATM problem," says the man nonchalantly. I don't say anything (I'm nervous). He restarts his spiel a few seconds later, this time with a bit of veins comung out of his neck.

    "Joel Shane Cross. That is your name, isn't it?" The guy went from good cop to bad cop pretty quick-which was really disturbing. I was already out of sorts with reality, waking up in nowheresville, this odd place. He just kept talking, and I started to get scared, and actually kinda angry. "We know all about you, Mr. Cross. We know that you've been allowing the ATM to inhabit your body for some time now. You've been mislead, Mr. Cross. Working for the wrong people."

    "I belive the ATM!" I told him, stickin to my guns while Istuck it to the man.

    "You'll learn in time," the red and sweaty man said it from his mouth, but the noise of his voice was all over the place. And then he was gone. Not by turning around, by like, vanishing. And the sciency room was gone too, replaced by the big white place I was stuck in. I don't know where I am. But this shit is If you are ready to become the biggest man you can be, then order your supply of Magna-RX+ today! See for yourself, what thousands of satisfied men (and their lovers) have already discovered: Magna-RX+ is the world's #1 Best-Selling Penis Enlargement Formula for one very simple reason: IT WORKS AND NOTHING ELSE CAN COMPARE!
    crazy. If someone gets this message...please help.


    END TRANSMISSION.

    - posted by poopbot: crapflooding since 7/8/02

    2fbTh5h0QX Post #466
  59. OPEN SOURCE MISCONCEPTIONS by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    OPEN SOURCE MISCONCEPTIONS
    By Serial Troller

    Myth: Open Source is written by heterosexuals.

    Fact: All Open Source development is done by raging homosexuals. The more flaming examples include Anal Cox, Linus Turdballs, Eric Ass-Reaming Raymond, and the entire Slashdot crew. The ringleader of the slashdotters, a man named CmdrTaco, engages in a practice known as Taco-snotting, along with his faggot-buddies Jeff Homos Bates and CowBoiKneel.

    Myth: Open Source is written for heterosexuals.

    Fact: Using Open Source software can cause suppressed homosexual fantasies to surface, leading to all out flaming faggotry within 6-8 weeks. Anecdotes of otherwise hetero men turning queer are far too numerous to count, but a few examples stand out. In one case, a man was arrested loitering outside an elementary school and making sexual overtures to several children: he quickly confessed that shortly after installing the Mozilla browser on his computer, he began to have uncontrollable urges to, to put it simply, have his cock sucked off by little boys. He soon met several other like-minded men through discussions on the Bugger Zilla mailing list (all already homosexuals), who together kidnapped a total of seven children whom they brought back to their apartment and sodomized. The other two men are still at large and believed to still be using Mozilla.

    Myth: Open Source is multicultural.

    Fact: Open Source is openly racist.

    Myth: Open Source is democratic.

    Fact: Open Source is controlled by a few narrow-minded zealots (mentioned throughout this post), most of whom are either Communists, Stalinists, Nazis, or Fascists. Additionally, Open Source supports terrorism.

    Myth: Open Source is tolerant of religious preferences.

    Fact: Open Source developers regularly engage in holy wars over the superiority of various Open Source projects, such as the Emacs program (preferred by Christians) versus vi (used mostly by neo-pagans and Satanists); or the KDE desktop (a favorite among Muslims) versus the GNOME project (particularly favored by Jews). Posts initiating crusades or jihads against other developers can be found regularly throughout the newsgroups and mailing lists.

    Myth: Open Source is tolerant of sexual preference.

    Fact: See above. Either you are a homo, you become a homo, or you never visit Richard Stallman alone in his office and hope to God you never meet him on the street at night.

    Myth: Open Source is tolerant of political differences.

    Fact: Open Source is an anarcho-communist philosophy bent on the destruction of capitalism. The very same Richard Stallman, a man whose name is disturbingly reminiscent of Stalin, has stated several times in public that his vision includes the subjugation of all who own intellectual properties under the jackboot of the GPL. The GPL is a pernicious piece of literature lifted straight from Karl Marxs Communist Manifesto, and is fortunately banned in many democratic nations.

    * * * * * UPDATE * * * * *

    Myth: Open Source programming is a harlmess, healthy activity.

    Fact: Open Source programming has been known to lead to massive obesity, violent tendencies with an obsession with handguns, paranoid-delusional ranting, and in severe cases, complete insanity. If anyone you know is thinking about going Open Source, stop them before its too late!

    * * * * * UPDATE * * * * *

    ____________________

    2002 Serial Troller. Permission to reproduce this document is granted provided that you send all the bukkake porn you can find to serialtroller@hotmail.com.

    - posted by poopbot: because we're all crapflooders at heart

    WoZJZ0cnTv Post #467

  60. Too many Pink Panther movies? by ianscot · · Score: 1

    Okay, so just how did they get the lunking big safe out? This wasn't only a few ounces of moonrock. It was a few ounces of moonrock, several bits of the Martian meteor that had the suggested microbial signatures in it, and a BIG safe around them: a 600-pound safe. How do you check out of the NASA building lugging a 600-lb safe? Where do you dispose of it later? Why didn't NASA have an alarm on any of this stuff? Guess we'll find out now.

    At $8,000 U.S. per gram, the outside price, the moon rocks (5 oz = around 142 grams) would have fetched a little over a quarter million bucks each for the four kids. The low end, $2000, would get around 71 grand apiece. The meteor would have added to that some. Was it worth the risk of having no career?

    The good news is that the "Belgium (sic) rock hound" and his friends knew when they'd be over the line. Fencing something unique isn't always this hard; stolen original paintings end up in private collections, for example. The people on the other end of this had consciences.

    --
    "Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
    1. Re:Too many Pink Panther movies? by elh01 · · Score: 1

      Okay, so just how did they get the lunking big safe out?

      It's not as hard as you think. I worked at JSC about 6 years ago. Yes, it's hard to get through the front gate, but once you get badged (3 different badges in my case) you can get a pretty broad access to the facility. Different areas of JSC had different access requirements (mission control, computer simulation facility, geologic samples). From his bio, he said he worked in the astromaterials department, so obviously he had access to these rocks.

      As far as lugging a 600 lb safe/container out of the building, it's not that difficult. First of all, security protocol is not that tight. I remember going to a secured library one day and the door was propped open with a box marked TOP SECRET (old DOD era mission info). People are a little more focused on the job at hand. Security was never really pushed very hard on us (although I assume that will change now). People were always lugging heavy equipment back and forth, and there are pallet jacks and loading docks at most of the buildings. Getting the safe out would have been no major effort.

      What I wonder is why they needed 4 people to do this? If Roberts had access, then that's all he needed. I could see having his college buddy help him with the heavy lifting, but why involve the two girls? Maybe trying to impress them? Maybe the girls were the brains of the operation? Of course, I use the term "brains" loosely.

  61. THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Happy Troll Tuesday!

    THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ [slashdot.org]
    By J. Wipo Troll, Esq. [slashdot.org], $Revision: 1.16 $
    [This article attempts to document a vile, ungodly practice that runs rampant through the homosexual geek and hacker community, a practice known as âoeTaco-snotting,â or simply âoesnotting.â Taco-snotting is something that few geeks dare talk about in free or open conversation, but it is nonetheless a widely-practiced and dangerous form of homosexuality. If you or anyone you know has ever engaged in Taco-snotting, please get professional help [adequacy.org] before it is too late. â"ed.]

    Why do I keep receiving emails from an individual calling himself âoeCmdrTacoâ?
    You have been receiving unsolicited mailings from a certain Robert âoeCmdrTacoâ Malda [cmdrtaco.net], owner of the popular technology website slashdot.org [slashdot.org]. Actually, itâ(TM)s not a very âoepopularâ site in the common sense of the word; the site is rife with pimply, antisocial geeks and hackers, zit-faced nerds, communists, dirty GNU hippies [yahoo.com], and other societal rejects and outcasts. Itâ(TM)s also home to one of the worldâ(TM)s largest suspected pædophile rings, the infamous âoeSlashdot crew.â
    Whenever Mr. Malda gets bored (and who wouldnâ(TM)t, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the user database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual activities with him. How he determines this is anyoneâ(TM)s guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with a letter of the English alphabet in it, youâ(TM)re a potential candidate.
    This time, he found you. Lucky you.

    Mr. Malda seems to be speaking in some sort of code. Do you know what it means?
    CmdrTacoâ(TM)s code language is relatively easy to decipher. This pervert prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo (yes, thatâ(TM)s right: he wants you) to evade the watchful eye of Slashdotâ(TM)s parent corporation, VA Software [yahoo.com]. Mr. Maldaâ(TM)s âoeCommanderâ is, of course, his penis: a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants and only comes out in the presence of other male geeks or at the beck and call of Maldaâ(TM)s own lubed-up right hand. His âoeTaco bells [sonymusic.com]â are the shriveled testicles that droop beneath his Commander, and his âoeTaco sauceâ is his thin, runny semen. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means if he asked you to âoering his Taco bellsâ or âoetaste his gourmet Taco sauce.â
    I would also guess CmdrTaco asked you to engage in a practice known as âoeTaco-snottingâ and, if he was in a particularly depraved mood at the time, a âoecircle-snot.â

    Good Lord. And, yes, he did. What is âoeTaco-snottingâ?
    âoeTaco-snottingâ is the term used by Robert Malda to refer to the depraved act of fellating another man (homo- or heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumoured to prefer raping unwilling victims), then blowing the semen out his nose and back onto the face and body of his victim. Naturally, a long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTacoâ(TM)s face [go.com], dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, âoeTaco-snotting.â
    And if thatâ(TM)s not bad enoughâ¦
    A âoecircle-snotâ is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew [bastardgenres.com]. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel [aol.com], and Homos get together and snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum â" spooging their jizz-snot all over each otherâ(TM)s faces and pasty, white bodies, until theyâ(TM)re covered head to toe with their own and each otherâ(TM)s man juice. This vile, ungodly ritual can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limousine service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow faggots Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The homosexual shenanigans that follow are nearly beyond description. The whole group begins to snot each otherâ(TM)s spunk and whip each otherâ(TM)s pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

    Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?
    Hopefully, but I wouldnâ(TM)t count on it.
    To begin with, you most likely forgot to uncheck the âoeWilling to Snotâ checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad (do you have a homosexual-sounding nick?), and heâ(TM)s probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube, just waiting to pounce and declare you his new bitch. Thereâ(TM)s no escaping a geek in heat (trust me), so itâ(TM)s probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTacoâ(TM)s sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to âoeWilling to Snot.â Maybe heâ(TM)ll ignore you. Probably not.

    I canâ(TM)t stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?
    If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, hemight leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge⦠oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot all over you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

    Have you ever been Taco-snotted?
    Unfortunately, yes. I first met Mr. Malda at an Open Source Convention [amazon.com]. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some âoegourmet Tacos,â but when I got there, the perverted geek jumped me and handcuffed me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his âoeCommanderâ out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times, virtually nonstop. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm⦠then he snotted my own thick, gooey jizz back onto my face out of his nostrils! He snotted me two more times, first into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
    CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, âoeOpen Sauceâ â" man sauce) buddies over to continue their ungodly snotfest. European hacker and known überfaggot Linux Torvalds raped my ass [yahoo.com] with his âoemonolithic kernel [yahoo.com];â his partner-in-crime Anal Cox used their âoenetwork stackâ in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice of my defenseless, tender, young body. Michael Sims was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my previously-virginal ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about âoeall those Censorware [spectacle.org] freaks out to get him.â

    That is so disgusting! How did you finally escape?
    After about 16 hours of countless unholy, homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, completely covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant â" I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door (of the apartment, not their back doors). Iâ(TM)m just glad I survived the awful ordeal. These sexually-repressed hackers had alot of built-up spunk in their wads â" I couldâ(TM)ve easily been drowned!

    Thatâ(TM)s horrible. Does âoeTaco-snottingâ have anything to do with CmdrTacoâ(TM)s âoespecial tacoâ?
    No, thatâ(TM)s a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. Mr. Malda is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll [slashdot.org] has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership [slashdot.org] about this vile practice (emphasis added):
    You may be wondering what CmdrTacoâ(TM)s âoespecial tacoâ is. You will be wishing that you hadnâ(TM)t been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his âoespecial taco,â CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, takes out his tiny withered dick (otherwise known as his âoeCommanderâ), puts his âoespecial taco sauceâ on it which means he jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim. After all, who would knowingly eat shit and CmdrTacoâ(TM)s jizz?
    After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTacoâ(TM)s nefarious homosexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victimâ(TM)s ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved. Trust me, you do not want Jon Katz anywhere near your unconscious body. Also, rumor has it CmdrTaco is looking for a new goatse.cx guy [goatse.cx]. Donâ(TM)t let it be you!
    Different ungodly perversion, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that Robert âoeCmdrTacoâ Malda is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

    Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a pædophile, not a homosexual.
    Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual pædophile. Heâ(TM)s also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Mr. Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesnâ(TM)t involve himself in the circle-snots, but that doesâ(TM)t mean heâ(TM)s any less of a freak than the rest of the Slashdot crew. Katz often engages in a game called âoejuicy-douching [aol.com]â with a harem of little-boy slaves that he has collected over the years: yet another vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boyâ(TM)s urine (forced out of them with a pair of pincers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then dribbling and slathering the goo all over himself and the boyâ(TM)s chained, naked bodies. If heâ(TM)s in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag from his distended anus and just squirt it from his ass [microsoft.com] onto the crying, terrified boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pincers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them at will. A boy will usually last about two years before Mr. Katz either accidentally drowns them in diarrhea or kills them once they get too old, usually around 13 or 14.
    Not content with being a pædophilic coprophile, Mr. Katz is also quite the zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys arenâ(TM)t enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goatâ(TM)s anus [yahoo.com]. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goatâ(TM)s small, bean-like turds, and he often kills his older boys by letting his goats trample them.

    â¦Are you getting hard writing this?
    Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

    No, thanks. Iâ(TM)m already CmdrTacoâ(TM)s boi toi.
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  62. Good ole days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This reminds me of the time we tried to sell some uranium we stole from the nuclear plant on ebay. It was all fun and games till my arm fell off.

  63. Not exactly... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2

    Unlike the moon rocks, the TV in your example belongs to somebody else to begin with. The moon rocks were just sitting there on the moon until the US Gov't. (admittedly not my favorite institution) spent $billions to bring them back for scientific analysis. Therefore, I'd say they're the "owners". And it's not like they don't release the data to the scientific community by publishing it. That's far more useful than giving away the rocks themselves.

    --
    Freedom: "I won't!"
  64. Obligatory Mooninites quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Life isn't about material goods. It's about taking material goods when others aren't looking!

  65. Punishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Well, since this is texas, those 4 should be dead inside of a week, right?

  66. What do you bet.... by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... one of them tried to smoke the moon rock in thier crack pipe.

    1. Re:What do you bet.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Yep, it figures that you'd be the first one to make drug abuse references.

    2. Re:What do you bet.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that was a pretty good one. Props to you. I bow down.

  67. Rock hound? by Strike · · Score: 1

    Why on Earth would anyone be a self-proclaimed "rock hound"? I mean, does this include precious gems (I hope, for sanity's sake), or does a "rock hound" just have some screwed up fetish for rough earthen materials?

    If someone were to walk up to me and say "Hey man, I'm a rock hound," I would assume:
    a) the person is just insane, or
    b) they are trying to sell me crack
    Did this guy call up the FBI and say he was a "rock hound"? Had I taken the call I would have said "sorry, buddy, you want our buddies in the DEA *click*" Sure, we would have lost the case and it would have been all my fault, but it would have struck a blow for common sense.

    1. Re:Rock hound? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Rock hound" is the term for amateur collectors of rock and mineral specimens. Usually, it's not just any old rock they would be interested in, but rocks having some special characteristic (such as beauty or, in this case, scientific significance). A professional "rock hound" would be a mineralogist or a petrologist.

  68. More Background Information by clickety6 · · Score: 1


    Here:
    http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-072 202a.html

    and more moon rocks for sale here:

    http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-121799a.ht ml

    (possibly!)

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    ----------------------------------- My Other Sig Is Hilarious -----------------------------------
  69. Obligatory Simpsons Quote: by dr_dank · · Score: 2

    "I've got moon rocks in my nose!"
    -Ralph Wiggum

    --
    Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
  70. You have to be the dumbest idiot by $criptah · · Score: 1

    ...if you have an internship at NASA and you still manage to fuck it up, just because you want to sell some moon rocks online. With the same luck, you can go down to Arizona desert, find some odd looking rocks, pack them up and sell them, its not like everybody knows what a 'real' moon rock looks/feels like. If those kids had more brains, they would work really hard for NASA so they could get a job there and then sell some real documents to our not-so-friendly countries like China, North Korea, Iraq, etc. Now because of those stupid kids our tax payers will have to pay more taxes, so NASA can start reviewing applicants more precisely upon hiring.

    1. Re:You have to be the dumbest idiot by Gennette · · Score: 1

      eh, having an internship with NASA isn't that special. And NASA isn't hiring now anyway...not even former interns that don't steal rocks. I sure wish I'd thought to take something while I was working there. I might have gotten away with it too.

  71. What do you want from Valley Dudes? by Steve+Franklin · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Thad, Tiffany, Sean, and, um, Shae.... Need I say more?

    --
    Hic iacet Arthurus, rex quondam rexque futurus.
  72. Taco, set my trolls free! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    In ancient times on slashdot, when first posts were really wooden posts, there were a lot of gaps in the system that allowed your common troll to proliferate.

    As Taco's hysterical anti-troll measures made it more and more difficult for legitmate posters to post code, you needed a smarter, tougher troll.

    Now, with /. limiting those who swim against the current of groupthink (karma -1) to two posts a day, we need a Stainless Steel Troll !

  73. Not even cute. by kyoko21 · · Score: 1

    Off topic: Man, did anyone see the video feed? She wasn't even that cute... lol! At least if she was kind of cute it would have been worth the effor to check out the video feed... :-) hehehehe

  74. Yeah, throw the book at 'em. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The eBook, that is.

  75. Bible proves the moon can't orbit the earth. by dpbsmith · · Score: 2

    "And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night." Ergo, the God-given purpose of the moon is to provide light during the night. Ergo, there cannot be such things as moonless nights. Ergo, the moon cannot orbit the earth.

    1. Re:Bible proves the moon can't orbit the earth. by Batou · · Score: 1

      I'm hoping that this was modded up as "funny".

      The only thing the Bible has "proven" over the years is the propensity of dull-witted people to believe anything they're told.

      --
      "Oh my God! The dead have risen! And they're voting Republican!" - Bart Simpson
  76. YOU are US government property. by Thud457 · · Score: -1

    You foreigners are so cute when you get your panties in a bunch about some mythical sovereignty!

    We'll be send a senator on a joyride in a nuclear submarine to drown some of your students if you don't settle down!

    --

    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  77. These Belgian rock hounds... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they just native to Belgian or is that tbe place one can procure them? Are they a recognized breed by the Westminster Kennel Club?

    I did a lookup on Google and could find no information regarding the duration of the breed so that I'd know what to look for in pedigree. As you can deduce I'm quite interested so any further information you could supply would be appreciated.

  78. The Moon Landing was Faked. by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2
  79. Maybe I touched it first! by Thud457 · · Score: -1

    When were you there?
    I picked my nose before I touched it!

    --

    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  80. Not that "dumb"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Famous art has been stolen and successfully offloaded onto the black market in a similar fashion for quite awhile. I'd dare say it wasn't the idea that was lacking but the execution.

  81. Yay Taco! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Let's here it for Poopbot, everybody! The hardest working troll on slashdot!

    "Slashdot only allows a user with your karma to post 2 times per day. You've already shared your thoughts with us that many times. Take a breather, and come back and see us in 24 hours or so.

    If you think this is unfair, please email jamie@slashdot.org with your username "Thud457". Let us know how many comments you think you've posted in the last 24 hours.
    "

    Nice to see that as a logged in poster (with admittatedly awful karma[*]), that I post lower than an AC, and can only post twice a day to boot!


    [*] let's hear it for mob mentality, everyone!

  82. Taco, you ignorant slut! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Let's here it for Poopbot, everybody! The hardest working troll on /. !

    "Slashdot only allows a user with your karma to post 2 times per day. You've already shared your thoughts with us that many times. Take a breather, and come back and see us in 24 hours or so.

    If you think this is unfair, please email jamie@slashdot.org with your username "Thud457". Let us know how many comments you think you've posted in the last 24 hours.
    "

    Nice to see that as a logged in poster (with admittatedly awful karma[*]), that I post lower than an AC, and can only post twice a day to boot!


    [*] let's hear it for mob mentality, everyone!

  83. Moonseed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ever read the book Moonseed? Forget about the property theft - the saftey of the entire world is at stake here!

  84. Hey, Ann Coulter is trolling /.! by alienmole · · Score: 1

    This sounds exactly like Coulter's new book!

  85. The price of spamming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting that the FBI didn't find these kids themselves - they were told about them by an anonymous Belgian geologist. And how did the Belgian geologist find out about them?

    They spammed his club's newsgroup.

    There's a moral there.

  86. Too late once again.. by kemster · · Score: 2, Funny

    .. Damn it. I knew I should have used Buy It Now. Now the auction is gone :( No moon rocks for me, and I was all ready to paypal those guys too.

  87. I was a co-op at NASA JSC... by dsr9996 · · Score: 1
    And these people really surprise me because all the other co-ops and interns had three things in common:
    1) They loved NASA and the space program,
    2) They were all very intelligent, and
    3) They all very honest from all my dealings with them.

    That was about 3 years ago, but still, to steal something from the people who have given you the privilege to work at a prestigious place and given you the opportunity for once-in-a-lifetime experience is baffling.

    The reason they were probably able to steal the stuff is because co-ops are trusted so much there. It is almost unquestioned that the people who pass the screening process have a true desire to work at NASA and are of good moral character. Unfortunately, this is no longer the case, and now future co-ops and interns will probably not be given as many privileges and have access to as many areas as before.

    It's a shame...

    --
    "It's always that rotten million that spoil it for the other 11."

  88. Atleast it wasn't crack rock by C.U.T.M. · · Score: 1

    Their parents can be proud knowing that they were caught trying to sell moon rock instead of crack rock.

    I can see the market for 'My college kid sells moon rock' bumper stickers sky rocketing. Time for someone to make a quick buck.

  89. Hmm. by mindstrm · · Score: 2

    Okay.. so if I'm in the US of A, and I pick up a rock off the ground, and take it home to Costa Rica...

    have I 'stolen' US Property?

    1. Re:Hmm. by sosentos · · Score: 1

      No but if I pick up a rock from the US and take it to my house in Costa Rica and put it on my table. And then if you come in and take the rock from my table then you have stolen from me.

    2. Re:Hmm. by plumby · · Score: 2

      If it's a valuable rock (which I'm assuming the moon rock is), then quite possibly. You've probably breached someone's mineral rights.

    3. Re:Hmm. by CrazyDuke · · Score: 1

      You have to have the permission of whoever owns the property. Any gold artifacts found apparently belong to the US government. If they find out you have some and haven't told them, the feddies show up.

      --
      Any sufficiently advanced influence is indistinguishable from control.
    4. Re:Hmm. by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2

      JSC houses a considerable collection of rocks they picked up from the ground from various sites around the world. They are meteorite fragments. In fact, this very case involved not just lunar rocks but samples of the infamous Mars meteorite. What do you think JSC security would think about you waltzing in there and just picking one or two up to take home?

      Many museums have extensive rock and mineral collections. Some consist of precious stones. Some are simply examples of more common minerals. You would find the same kind of reaction from their security if you decided to take home a sample from there too.

      Now - what if you launched your own moonshot a'la Salvage1. Then you would be free to pick up as many rocks as you wished and take them home to Costa Rica. Or begin a brisk business on eBay and complicate the FBI's future lunar sample theft investigations.

  90. Narf by Zabu · · Score: 1

    Pinky: "Naaaaaarrff! Oh, Brain! Aren't they beautiful!"

    Brain:"Yes, Pinky. Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"

    Pinky: "I think so, Brain, but don't you think Microsoft already has a software package that limits the spread of ideas?"

    Brain: "No, Pinky! I mean Moon Rocks! Look at them! The moon is the symbol of everything. Every creature looks up to it at night. If some genius were able to go in to the JSC and take the moon rocks he could use the power of the moon to force the masses to conquer the astrology pages, even the palm readers and eventually the world! And I, Pinky, am that genius."

    Pinky: "But, Brain, how are we going to get the moon rocks"

    Brain: "Simple. There interns are underpaid and young, they could easily steal the moon rocks and bring them to me, then I will have the power of the moon and then- the world!"

    Pinky: "Lets sell them on ebay..um..-narf!"

    --
    It's all good.
  91. Step 2... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sell moon rocks on Ebay (preferably without getting caught)...

  92. Boy did I get the wrong image in my mind... by NanoGator · · Score: 2

    "FBI Arrests 4 College Interns For Stealing Lunar Materials"

    When I read this headline, the first image in my mind was of college kids building a rocket and 'stealing' lunar materials. I can see some MIT kids getting drunk and doing exactly that heh. As for the FBI getting involved: Anybody remember that Simpsons quote "The Moon belongs to America." :)

    --
    "Derp de derp."
  93. woot! great qork FBI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/topstory/150 3835

    "We put two and two together," Houston FBI spokesman Bob Doguim said Monday. "We had missing rocks in Houston, and some people trying to sell them online."

    That is some pretty impressive detective work. ;)

  94. Here's what went down... by Gennette · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's what I get from reading the actual article in the Houston paper, rather than just reading the little summary. Four friends decide it would be funny to post something about selling moon rocks. They haven't stolen the rocks at this point, and they probably don't really intend to. They have some good laughs over it, I'm sure. Then, someone actually replies about wanting them! (someone that is just a front for the FBI) Encouraged by the huge amount that he is supposedly willing to pay, they are enticed to actually steal the rocks. In fact, they don't even steal them till after the undercover FBI people set up a price and meeting place. By this point, they feel like they're in too deep to back out. The joke has gone too far. They feel they have no choice but to actually follow through. Hello entrapment! (anyone who actually read it, feel free to discuss...others please don't comment)

    1. Re:Here's what went down... by Binky+The+Oracle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You wouldn't happen to be their defense lawyer, would you? Because that's exactly the argument I'd take to try to make to weasel out of this. "It's ahl a gubmint cohnspeerasee yah honah! These heah rocket wizahds was TRICKED into a life ah crime!"

      I'm not a lawyer, but if I recall correctly, entrapment only occurs when the enforcement organization actively initiates the transaction or crime.

      For example, let's say that the FBI puts two and two together (as they're apparently good at doing) and thinks that Senator Hollings is on the take. They call him up, offer him some money in return for some legislation, and pay him off. Well, ok, that's not a great example because we already know he's on the take, so this is just a sting proving his behavior. ;-)

      Instead, let's say your local police force sends an undercover officer to your house and the cop convinces/coerces you to take his gun and hold up the convenience store down the street. He goes with you and arrests you when you pull out the gun in the store. That's entrapment.

      If, however, I start asking around about where I can get a gun fast and the police get tipped off and start an undercover operation to catch me doing whatever it is I'm planning, that's not entrapment.

      Regardless of their original intent, at least one of these four posted an email saying they had lunar materials for sale on a web site and subsequently followed through with the theft and attempted sale. Their intent could conceivably have bearing on sentencing, but shouldn't on whether or not they're guilty of the crime. They said they had moon rocks for sale, they stole moon rocks, they tried to sell the stolen moon rocks. Period.

      (And yes, I read the Chron article.)

      --

      Slashdot comments... splitting hairs since 1997.

  95. Thad Roberts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of the arrested interns, was a student of mine when I was a teaching assistant at the University of Utah. He was quite a people-pleaser, but as I recall, had little academic ability. I was told, that he commonly cheated his way through classes. I can't substantiate such a claim, but given the difficulty he had with freshman physics, I don't find it difficult to believe.

    He was instrumental in starting the University of Utah Astronomical Society, though this was probably largely a social exercise for him, as his knowledge of astronomy was weaker than that of the average high-school student.

    Thad was quite fond of fantasizing about his future career as a Noble prize-winning astronaut (email was astronaut_thad@yahoo.com at one point). As great as my doubts were at the time about him achieving his ambitions, it seems quite unlikely that he shall succeed at this point; though it would be untrue to suggest that recent events are anything short of shocking, my perception of Thad as someone with a proclivity for dishonesty was apparently not entirely unjustified.

    I thought a little (scandal-mongering) biographica would be appropriate, as I doubt very much any of the major news sources are likely to interview me.

    Disclaimer: I am not presently affiliated in any way with the University of Utah, NASA, or Thad Roberts.

    1. Re:Thad Roberts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, when I was at the Univerisity of Utah a decade ago (and my father, several decades earlier) there already was an astronomical society on campus. Oddly enough there was also an observatory on campus, although it got VERY little use due to the light pollution of the valley. -- everyone prefered to go for a bit a drive either east of campus to Little Mountain or west out past Dugway.

    2. Re:Thad Roberts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The astronomical society collapsed and was reborn. The observatory still exists, and is the focus of the present society's activities, largely because they're too stupid to really care about light pollution, though they also drive elsewhere. There also used to be a photo lab in the South physics building, but that too has fallen into disuse; if I were to start using it, I could claim that I was the founder of the physics phootgraphy society, or whatever.

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  97. spacesuit dust by peter303 · · Score: 2

    I recall the dust on lunar space suits was auctioned to public by a private collector at one time.

  98. Can you say M-O-N-O-P-O-L-Y? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are the only legitimate source of moon rocks then you have a monopoly and can set your own price.

  99. Ahh by mindstrm · · Score: 2

    But the moon rock is not valuable because of some inherent value. It's valuable because it's from the moon. There is no shortage of moon rock; it's not unique, nothing has been 'stolen' from the moon.Anyone else who goes there can get truckloads of it.

    So to say that the US has 'stolen' the rock from the moon because they don't have rights to the moon is absurd.

  100. Was this part of an FBI Sting? by KE1LR · · Score: 1
    This seems to dovetail with a story that I heard on NPR on July 16th (story link) about a man in Guatemala who had a real moon rock that he wanted to sell - a wafer of rock about the size of a fingernail brought back by an Apollo mission (17?) that had been given, mounted on a plaque, by the Nixon administration to the Guatemalan government in gratitude for something or other and eventually came, through a route that is still unclear, into the hands of this individual.

    Meanwhile (and this is where the dovetail comes in) the FBI had set up in Florida and posted advertisements in magazines in order to lure people who were selling fake moon rocks over the net and in other places. When the Guatemalan man attempted to contact them and sell his (real) rock (for a seven-figure sum) the FBI was stunned to find that there was actually a real moon rock out there because they hadn't expected to find any.

    The whole thing is now tied up in litigation because the US claims that the rock doesn't properly belong to its current owner because it was given to the Guatemalan government/people.

    I wonder of the students saw the same ad and figured they could make some big bucks.

  101. One of these things is not like the other... by Binky+The+Oracle · · Score: 2

    One of these things is not like the other... tell me, can you guess which one?

    (Scroll down and look at the photos and descriptions)

    When I first saw the lineup I laughed out loud:

    • Thad Ryan Roberts, NASA co-op, Age: 25, Worked at the Neutral Buoyancy Lab Mission Operations Directorate. Triple major at University of Utah.
    • Tiffany Brooke Fowler, NASA intern, Age: 22, She worked in Biological Systems in Space and Life Sciences. Recent graduate of Texas Lutheran University. From Odessa.
    • Shae Lynn Saur, NASA intern, Age: 19, Worked in Structural Engineering with Thermal Design. Worked last summer in the X-38 program. Pursuing a B.S. in engineering from Lamar University.
    • Gordon Sean McWorter, Age: 26

    Just look at those photos and descriptions and then try to guess which one was saying (in his best Steve from Dell voice), "DUDE! Like, if you could get some of those rocks, we could make... like... I bet at least 200 bucks!" (Suppressed laughter to hold his smoke)

    Incidentally, I bet the University of Utah, Texas Lutheran University, and Lamar University are oh so happy with having their names displayed so prominently. Shining alumni indeed!

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  102. Drat! Foiled again! by de_boer_man · · Score: 1

    Oh, GREAT.

    I FINALLY get a great idea that is going to make me MILLIONS, and now I'm too scared to go through with it. You see, I was going to market and sell pieces of stone sculpted into shapes resembling the buttocks of various celebrities.

    But now I can't. I don't want the feds busting me for the sale of "Moon Rocks."

    Back to the drawing board...

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  103. You know .. by cje · · Score: 1

    .. I should start charging royalties each time this thing gets reposted. :)

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  104. Gives a whole new meaning... by Guru2Newbie · · Score: 0

    ...to the phrase "get your rocks off!"

  105. International Waters by TamMan2000 · · Score: 1

    International waters belong to no nation, but the fish pulled out of the water belongs to the fisherman who caught them.

    Same with the rocks from the moon being US property

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  106. What is really interesting... by cr0sh · · Score: 2
    What I find really interesting about this story (as well as the assertations I have read of it being illegal for an American to own lunar surface artifacts) is the high value placed on these things.

    While I understand that the properties of lunar dust and rocks is unique, it is still just "dirt". Nothing really that special. What makes these things so valuable isn't their properties, or the rarity - but rather the amount of money and time it took to go there and get them, and bring them back.

    The only way these items could ever drop in value would be if travel to the moon became more routine, especially if artifacts were brought back. However, I wonder if certain interests want to prevent this from happenning.

    Here we are, the world, a couple of years into a new millenium, and the greatest acheivement ever in mankind's history happened 30 years ago, and has never been repeated. Instead, we wage war on each other, stifle each other's rights, are ground up and spit out, and if we are lucky, we die leaving a little something behind for our children.

    So fucking pathetic.

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  107. Standard procedure for such incidents... by Shirloki · · Score: 1

    "Yes, let us pull down his pants and spank him with the moon rocks."

  108. You have found the Dragon! by chascarrillo · · Score: 1
    You hit the nail on the head. Check out McWorter's entry out from a Shaolin Guestbook:

    I am ever growing. I am ever discovering another ability or talent coursing through me. The energies of balance. The Yen and the Yang. I am light and darkness and accept Zen. I have never felt so much power in the Christian world! I am real! Connected with all of nature where the power of life trully resides to discipline, teach, and reveal. I am sad at my lonely position. I dream of finding a master to learn the Shaolin. To be the Dragon I was meant to be. 03/03/76. I was born in the year of the Dragon. I hold to the spinning enegies of it's balance. I yearn to fly and feel my chi seeking flight. Searching Searching...I learned guitar on my own. I've never gone to college, but I excel in computers, dance, philosophy, and science. I will seek into the universe and find the Dragon.

    Wow.

    This is the right person; the fractalized@yahoo.com address was connected to the email sent to the Belgian rockhounds according to the Houston Chronicle article.

  109. At last! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finally someone else has taken the "most idiotic thing done with moon dust" award away from me! Woohoo!

    My father was an astronaut back in the apollo days - and the mission scientist on 14 (at least I think it was 14). Anyway, the crew brought back a flag for him covered in moon dust (and I'd assume others, but I don't know about that). It's this little orange flag - and they'd mounted it with a plaque. You can imagine my father's horror when many years later, he ran into me trying to clean up the "dusty old flag in the glass case" with a vacuum.

    In my defense, I was a kid - although I think I was old enough to read at the time, so who knows what the hell I was thinking. Needless to say, he put it far out of my reach after that.

    Moral of this story? Be very wary of children armed with cleaning materials. That, and if you wait long enough, someone will always out do your own idiotic actions. :)

  110. Nothing like having the balls to use your name. by glrotate · · Score: 1

    Guess you don't have any.

    Anynonymous Coward Bitch.

    1. Re:Nothing like having the balls to use your name. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having something interesting to say and posting it but not giving your name, is a damn far sight better than not having anything interesting to say, so saying something stupid and assinine instead, and posting it under your lame assed sorry pseudonym, "glrotate".

  111. Re:other stolen rocks..not vanished without a trac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get your facts straight, he is captured. A few weeks or so later, all the diamonds were recovered.

  112. Religious Freaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Here's some email from one of the crooks, from http://www.shaolin.nl/guestbook/html/april2001.htm l. Evidentally he's so brain damaged that he doesn't think that "Thou Shalt Not Steal" applies to him. Maybe it was a conspiracy to supress the asteroid with possible evidence of Life on Mars, because it could interfere with the Church's ability to have sex with little boys.

    Name:Gordon Mcwhorter
    Email:fractalized@yahoo.com
    Location: Salt Lake Sity, Ut America
    Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 19:46:47
    Comments:

    I am ever growing. I am ever discovering another ability or talent coursing through me. The energies of balance. The Yen and the Yang. I am light and darkness and accept Zen. I have never felt so much power in the Christian world! I am real! Connected with all of nature where the power of life trully resides to discipline, teach, and reveal. I am sad at my lonely position. I dream of finding a master to learn the Shaolin. To be the Dragon I was meant to be. 03/03/76. I was born in the year of the Dragon. I hold to the spinning enegies of it's balance. I yearn to fly and feel my chi seeking flight. Searching Searching...I learned guitar on my own. I've never gone to college, but I excel in computers, dance, philosophy, and science. I will seek into the universe and find the Dragon.

  113. You mean increase the standards by systemaster · · Score: 1

    Decreasing the standards would have nothing to do with preventing this from happening, however increasing them might. As for your second idea, increasing compensation may have the desired effect.

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  114. Across state lines... by BigBadaboom · · Score: 1

    Hmmm...

    Did the FBI make them travel from Houston to Tampa just so they could add 'crossing state lines' to the charges? :(

    If so, does that qualify as entrapment?

  115. When I get a new intern... by newestbob · · Score: 0
    ...I lay down the law right away.

    I say "You can behave and be like Monica, or you can disobey me and end up like Chandra, the choice is yours."

    That usually sets them straight.

  116. moderating anonymous slander by john82 · · Score: 1

    All things considered, there is no reason for such a post (I was a TA ...) to be +2. We have no proof that the poster is Elvis, let alone a former TA for one of the accused (emphasis on the word accused pending a trial). Since this is merely an accusation and possibly slander (IANAL), it should not rate above -1 when it's posted as AC.

    I realize that I'm offtopic here, but what exactly are the guidelines for moderation in this case?

  117. Yanks never set foot on the moon by Macfox · · Score: 1

    So where did these rocks come from "really"?

    I read some where, the japs are well on their way to mapping the moon in about two years, so no doubt the truth will be revealed then.

    So what happens to these theifs then? :)

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