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Linux Beer Hike Goes to Ireland

Jim Gleason sent us a notice of the upcoming Linux Beer Hike 2002: ""Linuxbierwanderung," a.k.a. The Linux Beer Hike or LBW for short, is an annual summer event in which Linux users from around the world meet in a region with a high density of brew pubs. The objectives are valorous - hike to the pub, drink beer and exchange ideas until closing time, then hack Linux through until it's morning again. Upwards of 100 people plan to rendez-vous on the west coast of Ireland to enjoy the fast bandwidth and attend one of the ad hoc technical seminars. Pints of local ale and traditional Irish music should only help foster a nourishing environment for a week's worth of serious Linux use. Funded by a small voluntary donation from each attendee, it is unclear if one can obtain a receipt. This sounds like a tax-deductible business trip to me."

The Linux Beer Hike Hits Ireland

Doolin, Ireland -- 23 July 2002 -- "Linuxbierwanderung," (also known as The Linux Beer Hike - LBW for short) will take place this year in the village of Doolin, August 24-31, 2002, on the west coast of Ireland. Now in its fourth year, LBW has travelled to Bavaria in Germany, the Lake District in England and the Ardennes in Belgium.

Upwards of 100 people have attended LBWs in the past, and even with above average rainfall in Ireland this year, no one is disheartened. The Russell Community Centre located near the Cliffs of Moher, has been confirmed as the base of operations for the event and where the weather is lacking, the fast connectivity and interplay of technological ideas (not to mention the "special recipe" brew being cooked up to commemorate the occasion) should more than compensate.

Funded by a small voluntary donation from each hiker, The Linux Beer Hike is a week-long, international summer event in which Linux users from around the world get together, exchange ideas, hack Linux, drink beer, take in a little local scenery and have a lot of fun. It is a great way for Linux users who correspond all year long via e-mail, to meet one another face-to-face. It is also a chance to work on Linux far into the night, compute with abandon, and conceive of the utterly cool. "It's the ultimate Linux users holiday" says Willem Konynenberg, a former organiser.

Planned events:
* technical seminars
* caving, golf, touring local castles and other sights
* having a pint in the local pub and listening to traditional Irish music

There is an active mailing list and information on how to join The Linux Beer Hike can be found on the main web page: http://www.lbw2002.draiocht.net.

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  1. But.... by Captain+Pedantic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will the beer be free?

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    None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
    1. Re:But.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, but there'll be tubs of hops and barely and a tap for water. You'll be expected to mix all of the ingrediants yourself, but the source is all there.

      Rehashing an old joke from two years ago....

    2. Re:But.... by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

      Beer Drinking? In Ireland? I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!

    3. Re:But.... by ataltane · · Score: 1

      Sure. Dn't you know that all beer is free in Ireland?

  2. bring a coat, enjoy the craic! by fantomas · · Score: 2

    ...because it didn't get to be the Emerald Isle for nothing, all that greenery needs rain!

    But the craic's great and the pubs are fine :-))

  3. L eg B efore W icket? by chrisseaton · · Score: 1

    You're out when that happens where I come from!

    1. Re:L eg B efore W icket? by umm+qasr · · Score: 3, Interesting
      For those not from Commonwealth countries, this is a cricketing term... Yes, that game Cricket, that Americans have heard of, but cannot fathom--it is not baseball.

      LBW is a way you can get out. Basically its when you put your leg in the way of the stumps (aka wicket) to protect from a ball you could not hit. Debates have spanned years on whether this is an appropriate rule, and if it can ever be accurately ruled upon.

      Funny thing is, I am Australian, been to an LBW (Linux Beer Hike), but never noticed the correlation to the cricketing LBW...weird.

    2. Re:L eg B efore W icket? by ivrcti · · Score: 1

      Us Americans don't "fathom" anything. Either we grock it or we don't!

    3. Re:L eg B efore W icket? by Epeeist · · Score: 1

      > Yes, that game Cricket, that Americans have heard of, but cannot fathom--it is not baseball.

      For one thing - the World (Cup|Series) actually includes more than one country.

    4. Re:L eg B efore W icket? by corian · · Score: 2, Informative

      from the Guardian (UK) newspaper style guide:

      World Series
      (baseball) got its name from the New York World, the newspaper that originally sponsored it; so to use it as an example of American arrogance is as inaccurate as it is tedious

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide/page/0,5817 ,1 84822,00.html

    5. Re:L eg B efore W icket? by sn0g · · Score: 1

      How about playing Cuba, or are you afraid?

    6. Re:L eg B efore W icket? by benjj · · Score: 1

      World Series (baseball) got its name from the New York World, the newspaper that originally sponsored it; so to use it as an example of American arrogance is as inaccurate as it is tedious

      Wrong.

      http://snopes.com/business/names/worldser.htm

      Much as I love the Guardian, the do seem to fall for these urban legends e.g. they fell for this one too:

      http://snopes.com/horrors/drugs/deadbaby.htm

    7. Re:L eg B efore W icket? by Oztun · · Score: 2

      I am an American and at age four cricket was the first game I learned to play.

      Don't you know? All generalizations are false.

    8. Re:L eg B efore W icket? by Oztun · · Score: 2

      And I find baseball as equally boring as soccer. I prefer to watch events involving women scantily dressed. Not a bunch of men running around on a field chasing a ball. However playing sports like cricket, baseball, or whatever can all be fun.

  4. Doolin! by PHAEDRU5 · · Score: 2

    Irish music, pints, 24 hours a day.

    Who has time for Linux?

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    1. Re:Doolin! by Kiffer · · Score: 1
      Irish music, pints, 24 hours a day.

      Who has time for Linux?
      um... you do know what the pub hours are here dont you? ... there'll be plenty of time for Linux ...
    2. Re:Doolin! by kaustik · · Score: 1

      A bit off topic, but... what are they? I'm interested in visiting sometime (for myself, not for linux) and would like to know. Thanks.

    3. Re:Doolin! by buzy+buzy · · Score: 1

      http://www.softguides.com/ireland/pubs/ has licensing hours. Although I think they are incorrect on Sunday when tie time is 11 Pm. You do get 30 minutes drinking up time though. Doolin is more relaxed on enforcement then cities. enjoy :-)

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  5. Cool idea! by DrunkenPenguin · · Score: 1

    I'll drink to that! Please be sure to take digital camera with you so that we, who can not participate can enjoy it too. It's fun to look at pictures of a lot of drunken penguins :)

    1. Re:Cool idea! by Mattygfunk · · Score: 2
      Not possible.

      What happens on the footy trip stays on the footy trip. Same applies for buck's nights and any other "I'm away from the wife for a week" trips.

      Breaking this rule results in no further trip away invites.

  6. I like the name of it by Hanul · · Score: 1

    It's once again one of those long german words, which will sound very, very funny, when spoken by a foreigner. Like "Fahrvergnügen". If I had some money left, I would go there, but it's all spent on an iBook. Hmm, that's not running Linux... So, I will announce an upcoming event for 2003. The "Apfelbierwanderung" or Apple Beer Hike. Look out. Maybe I can get some apple beer in Belgium, they already make some tasty cherry beer.

    1. Re:I like the name of it by altgrr · · Score: 1

      Just so long as you can pronounce the German ladies' names, you'll do just fine...

      Surely, given Apple's current branding scheme, your Apfelbierwanderung would have to be called something like .Pub?

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    2. Re:I like the name of it by wheany · · Score: 1

      More like iPub.

    3. Re:I like the name of it by sconest · · Score: 2

      Maybe I can get some apple beer in Belgium, they already make some tasty cherry beer.

      And raspberry beer, peach beer, banana beer, blackcurrant beer, ...
      I'm sure there are more that I don't know of.

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  7. fast bandwidth? In Ireland? Can I get some? by souter · · Score: 1

    And in Doolin as well. Still, it's a lovely village, but sounds like the organisers have been conned by the Irish governments _comittment_ to being a global internet hub but sadly the implemenation is non-existent.

    1. Re:fast bandwidth? In Ireland? Can I get some? by bfree · · Score: 2

      My guess is the center got involved in the Information Town thing in Ennis or something similar. I can't imagine it only has a Hi-Speed connection and it certainly doesn't have I-Stream in that part of the country!
      All I can say is I'm there! Doolin (and the surrounding area) is absolutely beautiful and a fabulous place to drink copious amounts of beer! Especially when you can find lots of great local (and less local) musicians playing in the pubs every night. If anyone out there would like to go to an LBW aswell as seeing some of the famed Irish hospitality and lifestyle then this is the trip for you! Hope I see you all there!

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      Never underestimate the dark side of the Source

    2. Re:fast bandwidth? In Ireland? Can I get some? by rpeppe · · Score: 2
      i'll definitely second that! i've been there twice now, once on a climbing trip 'cos there's some superb rock climbing on the sea cliffs just north of doolin; and once with my girlfriend and a fiddle, spending lots of time playing in the trad. music sessions there. really friendly people especially considering the number of tourists that must pass through.

      a fantastic place. as for accommodation, the first time i camped (windy and wet!), and the second stayed at the Rainbow Hostel, very friendly, and no problem with coming back in at god knows what hour of the morning!

      i can't say i saw anything resembling a computer when i was there though, so i can't speak for the bandwidth!

    3. Re:fast bandwidth? In Ireland? Can I get some? by seaker · · Score: 1

      There is good (wave) surfing locally too at Lahinch (busy), Spanish point and further south at White Strand.

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    4. Re:fast bandwidth? In Ireland? Can I get some? by cavedave · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just for any visitors. Doolin is also in the biggest caving region in Ireland.
      The caves are mainly horizontal so SRT isn't necessary.
      As usual local knowledge is necessary. For that http://www.ucd.ie/~caving or the Speleological Union of Ireland website is worth visiting.
      If your a cave diver 200m off Doolin peir is some of the best sea cave diving in the British isles, or so I hear.
      Enjoy McGann's and O'Connor's.

    5. Re:fast bandwidth? In Ireland? Can I get some? by jeremyp · · Score: 2

      I'd say they were conned about the density of pubs too. It's a while since I've been to Doolin but I remember there being two (maybe three). Still, they make up for it in quality. One of my best memories is of sitting in O'Connell's watching the finals of the All Ireland Hurling Championship (it's a sport in which you club each other to death with wooden sticks) which County Clare won (Doolin is in County Clare).

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    6. Re:fast bandwidth? In Ireland? Can I get some? by hmallett · · Score: 1

      Depends upon your definition of fast bandwidth. There is ISDN into the venue, which may be fast for those of us more used to dialup....(although admittedley, when shared between 100 users it ain't that much...)
      I hate to think how the whole six double power points are going to cope too...

  8. Oh great! by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 1
    Is this going to be like a beowulf cluster of drunk linux geeks? ;-)

    Sorry, couldn't resist...

    1. Re:Oh great! by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "Wheany"...what a nice nick for a whiner. So you don't like beowulf cluster jokes and oppose to them. I'll tell you why beowulf cluster jokes need to stay: simply because of tradition. They are indeed not particulary funny, but I remember as a novice Slashdot reader (second account, hence the high user ID number) I was puzzled by a great many of those jokes. "What is a beowulf cluster?" will ask the novice slashdot reader, because he doesn't get the joke. Perhaps he'll do some research then and find out.

      Same thing with "Petrified Nathalie Portman". I did not even know who "Nathalie Portman" was. (No Star Wars fan, sorry) I still don't get the Hot Grits stuff and why what exactly GoatSex has to to with www.goatse.cx (except for sounding the same). There are great many traditions here on slashdot, and traditions should be perpetuated, so that the future generations of Slashdot readers will have the trill to accidentally click on a goatse.cx link (especially at work...which happened to me.)

      It's all part of the fun...so get your whining somewhere else, okay?

      Oh, to stay on topic: anyone ever installed Linux after drinking 2 liters of beer? Very funny, especially the hangover the next day because you lost all your partitions ;-)

    2. Re:Oh great! by wheany · · Score: 1

      Ahahaha! I get it. Wheany -> whiny -> whiner. Oh man that is original, you are such a comedian, have you considered touring stand-up joints?

      -Everybody please give a big hand to Corporate troll
      <applause>
      -Take my wife, please
      <laughing>
      -There is this guy whose nickname is "Wheany" that writes to Slashdot. The name is very appropriate, because he whines a lot.
      <rimshot> <laughing>
      -The other day I made a Beowulf cluster of old 486 computers I had laying around. Yeah, it was great, except someone had poured hot grits into one of them and when I tried to find pictures of petrified Natalie Portman on the web, my browser insisted on going to http://goatse.cx.
      <gasp>
      -Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of those!
      <laughing>
      -Yeah, "All your picture of Natalie Portman are belong to us"
      <laughing><standing ovation>
      -Thank you, thank you, you've been a great audience!

    3. Re:Oh great! by wheany · · Score: 1

      What, so that wasn't funny? I used all the classics.

      What am I doing wrong...

    4. Re:Oh great! by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 1

      First let me assure you that I'm not the AC that insulted you. I log in to do that ;-)
      The whole art of keeping up traditions is to do it in small doses. Honestly I liked how you derided my rant about slashdot traditions: that's exactly how it should be. As in "you flame me, I flame you". Excellent, I foresee a great future for you as a slashdot poster. A bit less whining and a bit more spice and you'll make one heck of a flamewarrior.
      I never said you had to agree about the tradition part, but I hope you sure do see my point. Oh, and don't link to goatse.cx, it's already bad enough mentioning it.

    5. Re:Oh great! by wheany · · Score: 1

      I liked you better when you said I was a whiner. I can't stay mad at you...

      But Beowulf cluster jokes still suck by default.

    6. Re:Oh great! by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 1
      Well I just tried to imagine a beowulf cluster of whiners like you and a cold shiver ran down my spine.

      Sans racune...

  9. Selling it to the Boss by MosesJones · · Score: 5, Funny


    You: I have to go to a conference on dynamic fluid-driven next generation systems. Its called the "LBW" which means "Leading Business through Webvolution".

    Boss: What benefits will we see ?

    You: Our servers will run quicker (note to self: disable SMP on the servers before I go), we'll be better prepared for Webservices (note to self: install the Apache Webservices stuff, ask someone in the pub which one to use). And of course we will be seen as leaders within this technical and business community

    Boss: If its business why are you going ?

    You: Remember at my last appraisal where you said I didn't understand the business drivers, I've learnt from your behaviour (Note: Vendor paid for Golf days) and think this would help me develop as you wanted me to.

    Boss: How much is it

    You: I've got a complimentary ticket, I just need the expenses signed off (Note: Can I pay for the admin in beer?)

    Boss: How come its compilmentary ?

    You: Because of the articles I've been writing on Webvolution (Note: Slashdot log counts doesn't it?)

    Boss: Oh, wow, I'll set a limit of (Note to self from Boss: Umm I'd blow 2k in a week, so..) £500.

    You: (Note to self: Ryanair, car hire, hotels, beer.. thats too little) Sure and I'll book the hotel via the department (Note: Therefore it will be on the massive budget sheet with all of your jollies)

    But remember to buy some naff toys and claim they are vendor gifts.

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    1. Re:Selling it to the Boss by yalla · · Score: 1

      Actually the fun part goes on at the campingsite so you can save a lot of money and buy more neat toys/beer.

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      You look like a million dollars. All green and wrinkled.
  10. U2+beer combination beats Linux! by DrunkenPenguin · · Score: 1

    Combination of U2 and Beer beats Linux and other computer related stuff hands down!

    1. Re:U2+beer combination beats Linux! by goodEvans · · Score: 1

      ROFL

      Not THAT Irish music. REAL irish music - the stuff that goes diddly-di and has lots of "WHUP"s in it

  11. LBW pictures (Re: Cool idea!) by umm+qasr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pictures from all previous (and the next, when it is completed) are here.

  12. So that's where this comment came from. by Garg · · Score: 1

    /* drunk... fix later */

    Garg

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    Alumnus, Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters
  13. Re:Drunken coding by 2g3-598hX · · Score: 1

    Quiet fool, you've stumbled onto the secret of Microsoft's productivity! Although I must admit it doesn't do much for the quality of the code.... - BillG

  14. In the words of the BOFH... by superflex · · Score: 1

    PFY! Junket alert! Print off a couple of selections from the bosses' porn archive in case we need bargaining leverage!

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    sigs are for suckers
  15. Linux has not improved my quality of life by Mattygfunk · · Score: 3, Funny
    hike to the pub, drink beer and exchange ideas until closing time, then hack Linux through until it's morning again.

    There once was a time in my life that after going to the pub I wouldn't be coding, but going to the strippers with the rest of the boys.

    You lot have corrupted me.

  16. Re:Geeks big drinkers? by DrunkenPenguin · · Score: 1

    Since day one. I got into drinking habit when I had my 16 birthday - now I drink and have a party every weekend just like everybody (="normal" people) else. It is possible to write killer code while being under the influence of alcohol, I've seen it done many many times. In fact, all of the greatest Amiga demos were coded by drunken coders at copyparties.

  17. Fast bandwidth? by anticypher · · Score: 3, Informative

    the west coast of Ireland to enjoy the fast bandwidth

    Huh? The community centre has a single basic rate ISDN line, so max they'll have a 128kbps connection to the outside world. DSL? Not anytime soon. The LBW isn't about bandwidth, its about the beer, the exercise, and Linux.

    But assuming they install some 10/100 hubs in the centre, then locally they'll have a nice little LAN party.

    the AC

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    Hemos is like...sci-fi fans;he thinks technology is cool, but he hasn't bothered to understand the science it's based on
    1. Re:Fast bandwidth? by goodEvans · · Score: 1
      Heeheehee.

      Wait till ye all get over here. There ain't no broadband. ADSL is in 35 exchanges in Dublin, and has been stalled at that for 12 months. 128k isdn is all you're gonna get until you start paying thousands a month for E1s

      BUT... Gus O'Connor's is a great pub. I think there's some connection to the Irish Embassy bar in Boston - Same guy owns/owned them both, I think. I live in Clare, so Doolin is a regular haunt.

    2. Re:Fast bandwidth? by goodEvans · · Score: 1

      My bad - it's not O'Connors that is linked to the Irish Embassy, it's McGann's

    3. Re:Fast bandwidth? by asv108 · · Score: 2
      But assuming they install some 10/100 hubs in the centre, then locally they'll have a nice little LAN party.

      Yeah, and play all those linux games.

  18. Wow... by kdgarris · · Score: 2

    Never thought I'd see an event that combined 4 of my interests like that: Linux, beer, hiking and Ireland.

    -Karl

  19. Re:Drunken coding by spooky+ghost · · Score: 1

    Through much experience I have learned that drinking and coding work very well together. That is until the next morning when you can't figure why it won't make any more, why there are lots of strange debugging printfs such as 1 pint, 2, pints, 3 pints, floor, and why the hell it doesn't do what its supposed to.

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  20. Pints of local ale? by aurelian · · Score: 2, Informative
    Pints of local ale and traditional Irish music

    No such thing as pints of 'local ale' in Ireland - a) because people don't drink ale there, mainly stout, and b) because there are pretty much no small breweries or 'brew pubs'. With very few exceptions, all the beer you'll find is brewed in Dublin or Cork.

    Pints of local ale are drunk in England.

    1. Re:Pints of local ale? by aurelian · · Score: 1
      Which would make the CUSTOM BREW we are having made up by a LOCAL BREWERY kind of difficult?

      No, just unusual.

    2. Re:Pints of local ale? by goodEvans · · Score: 1

      Except that pints of local ale are available in County Clare - Biddy Early's Brewery is in Inagh, about 20 miles away. Good stuff too.

    3. Re:Pints of local ale? by Mr.Phil · · Score: 2

      Well, if you want to get technical, Stout is an Ale as it is brewed with Ale yeast. What makes it a stout is the amount of hops (for nose and bittering), malted barley, and in stouts, roasted non-malted barley used compaired to other ales and lagers.

      Being a homebrewer and as my wife calls me, a beer-bigot, I've learned there is much more to good beer than opening a can of BudMillCoors. It can be quite interesting and rewarding to brew your own beer, but I've found I can't drink just any beer now, as I know what taste better and what tastes a whole lot worse. Life is to short to drink bad beer.

      If anyone is interested in reading up on Brewing your own beer, a nice on-line resource is http://www.howtobrew.com/ a online version of the book "How to Brew" by John Palmer.

    4. Re:Pints of local ale? by DrXym · · Score: 2
      There are a smattering of brew pubs, some of them quite excellent. The rest are almost exclusively selling Guinness and Guinness-licenced brands. You can forget getting variety or cheap beer in Ireland.

      Cork does have some variety since it is the home turf of Beamish and Murphys, but nowhere in Ireland holds a candle to any town in the UK. The Guinness monopoly has had an extremely unhealthy effect on the quality of pubs in Ireland. It will be a good day indeed when the monopoly is broken.

    5. Re:Pints of local ale? by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 1

      There's the Porterhouse brew pub in Dublin (& one in Covent Garden in London). The beer there is wonderful. I'd especially recommend the Porterhouse Red. They also sell bottled beers from around the world. The Latvian porter (Porteris) is expensive but very, very good.

      HH
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    6. Re:Pints of local ale? by popoutman · · Score: 2
      There is a great micro-brewery pub about 15 miles from Doolin, on the road from Lahinch to Ennis. If you travel from Shannon or Limerick to Doolin, you will pass it, travelling through a small village called Inagh (pronounced Eye-nah). The name of this pub is Biddy Early's, and they do a great stout (Black Biddy's) and also a very good ale (Brown Biddy's).

      To those that are coming from abroad, please note, driving is on the left, and the roads in the countryside are narrow. Also please do not drink and drive, do have a driver and do enjoy yourselves.

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    7. Re:Pints of local ale? by DrXym · · Score: 2
      Guinness isn't so good that choice should be banned. I prefer Murphys to Guinness but you'd be hard pushed to find it on sale 80 miles from Cork.

      In Ireland every pub serves a nearly identical range of drinks, all with the same brands simply because Guinness has the industry in a stranglehold.

      By contrast British pubs (many of which also sell Guinness) have more choice and are usually cheaper to boot. Pubs like Wetherspoons often have 20 or more beers on tap including guest beers and regional beers.

  21. Re:Geeks big drinkers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So true.. RED SECTOR's legendary megademo was coded by dead drunk coders (read the scrollertexts!), SCOOPEX's Mental Hangover was coded by Slayer, who was also dead drunk yet he managed to program real-time stencil vectors (line vectors filled with materials, like wood or metal) for the first time in the whole world. Very tricky and complicated mathematical stuff, but obviously it can be done under the heavy influence of alcohol. Besides, those coders coded using ASSEMBLY language!

  22. This is why (using) Windows s*** ! by BuR4N · · Score: 1

    Can not imagin a better way to spend a week !

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  23. Beer Month by dylan_- · · Score: 2

    Ahh...the Great British Beer Festival is on from August 6th to 10th, and then we have this.

    August is a fine month...

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  24. Re:Sounds like hell by goodEvans · · Score: 1
    Aha, but `Biddy Early's brewery is about 20 miles away in Inagh. Stout, Lager and a very yummy ale. All brewed in the back of a pub (not a brewpub per se, just a pub that has been there for donkey's years where someone decided that they should make their own beer)

    And good guinness is like nectar. Not that cold, thin, bitter piss they sell everywhere else. Pulling a pint of porter is a fucking art - soft pints, half and half, the barrel under the counter so it's at room temp... Fuck it lads, I'm off to Nelly's. Anybody coming?

  25. Hiking + Guinness? by JBMcB · · Score: 1

    After hiking around the rim of the Grand Canyon and Bryce, I drank lemonade by the quart and water by the gallon. I'd say the last thing you want after a long hike is a pint. Even Guinness! Unless, of course, the "Hiking" part of the excursion is "Hiking" to the local pub...

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    1. Re:Hiking + Guinness? by aardwulf · · Score: 1

      Been there twice. Hiked the cliffs twice. Nothing beats Guinness after a long day o' hiking. Assuming you are smart and actually drink water through the day. Then trad music and dancing and Guinness after you get back... Key is to drink water during your hike, not AFTER.

  26. Re:Drunk coding? by DrunkenPenguin · · Score: 1

    So serious? FUN! FUN! THAT'S WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT! We try to have fun, meet great people, enjoy their company and actually LIVE this life 100%! Why don't you too try to enjoy yourself once in a while! Be serious then when you need to be serious (when you are about to die).

  27. Re:Drunken coding by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    #!/usr/local/bin/python
    import time

    def BEER(Pinths, sharttime, endshime):
    return "DRUNK"

    if __name__ == "__main__":
    print BEER(12,time.time()-(60*60), time.time())

    % ./drunk.py
    DRUNK
    %

    Wow my Program ish sho C00l! It tellsh me shwen imsh drushk

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  28. Ireland - the Internet dirt track of Europe by DrXym · · Score: 3, Informative
    It's sad to say, but Ireland has absolutely the worst internet service you're likely to find anywhere in Europe. ADSL is practically non-existent, wireless is non-existent and most "power-users" are still stuck using ISDN or 56k modems still. Some third world countries offer a better service!

    Anyone coming the beer hike better realise this. The only saving grace as far as visitors are concerned is there are several "free" ISPs, i.e. no subscription, you just pay for the phone call.

    1. Re:Ireland - the Internet dirt track of Europe by barryf · · Score: 1


      Sadly all too true. I just got a fix though, from the nice people at LEAP Broadband (http://www.leap.ie/) - 512K wireless at EURO 99/month with no usage restrictions.

      Rolling out first of all in Dublin. Highly recommended!

      -Barry

    2. Re:Ireland - the Internet dirt track of Europe by dardem · · Score: 1

      If only Worldcom had taken control of the situation. Stupid Irish Telecoms regulator, what were they thinking.

      :oP

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      "Ceilean Súil an ní ná feiceann..."
    3. Re:Ireland - the Internet dirt track of Europe by Draoi · · Score: 2
      Barry Flanagan - is that you???

      Pete C (ex- IOL Cork UserGroup admin)

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      Alison

      "It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." - Albert Einstein

    4. Re:Ireland - the Internet dirt track of Europe by phlebas_belfast · · Score: 1

      Tha nationalist in me still considers the north part of ireland, and i have to say it ain't too bad up here, NTL's service is ok (as long as you live in a city where there's cable laid) and pipex/bt are rolling out adsl fairly well. Can't see there being an exchange within 5km of where this things on tho 8^)

  29. LBW Sing Along by PMuse · · Score: 1

    You know :-), to quite literally millions of people, the LBW is the Lutheran Book of Worship.

    I guess that means the Linux Beer Hikers should drink boldly!

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    "We reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals." --The American President (20.1.2009)
    1. Re:LBW Sing Along by PMuse · · Score: 1

      The OS's one foundation
      is Linus Torvald's code;
      She is his new creation
      by semaphores bestrode.
      In Finland Linus wrote her,
      his macro-kernel core;
      With GPL he gave her,
      that we might pay no more.

      Input from every nation,
      yet one o'er all the earth;
      Her message: revolution,
      open source proves its worth!
      No profit-mad excesses,
      she charges us no fee,
      And to this hope she presses,
      that software will be free.

      --to the tune of The Church's One Foundation
      also here

      --
      "We reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals." --The American President (20.1.2009)
  30. HDD? by Epeeist · · Score: 1

    > so to use it as an example of American arrogance is as inaccurate as it is tedious

    Humour Deficit Disorder?

  31. Re:oh good. by DrXym · · Score: 2
    I've never been served warm Guinness, Beamish or Murphys and I live here. The warmest it gets is cold with most pubs actually chilling it.

    IMHO the nicest of the three is Murphys.

    Guinness isn't particularly great and is made by an international drinks conglomerate who have a nearly total monopoly on the Irish market. It is for this reason that every pub serves the same shit brands for too much money. You won't even see Beamish or Murphys on sale unless you're close to Cork.

  32. A W E S O M E by aardwulf · · Score: 1

    I have taken two trips to Ireland, and both time have stayed for a couple nights in Doolin. This is GREAT... check out my Cliffs of Moher page for pics and info about the cliffs just outside Doolin.

    When in Doolin go to McDermotts!!! It is THE BEST pub in Doolin, and maybe all of Ireland. They have the absolute best trad music I have ever heard. I have links to maps and info about McDermotts on the above link

    Oh yea, Linux rules too!! I would love to see a penguin hiking up the cliffs...

  33. Re:enjoy the craic? by Kiffer · · Score: 1
    As in craic cocaine?
    yes, yes thats what was ment ... mmm small town Ireland and its massive Cocaine habit.

  34. Linux Games? by budalite · · Score: 1

    Ok. Let me get this straight. Linux is the goddess. Linux programmers/worshippers live for hacking and games. Now, tell me again why there are so blockbuster Linux games?

    MadDad32

  35. Re:Sounds like hell by OrangeSpyderMan · · Score: 1

    Real beers, as most real beer drinkers know, are not available much further than 50-odd miles away form the place where they were brewed.

    Where I lived the Theakstons brewery was about 15 minutes drive away, and for a long time after it was bought by corporate goat piss purveyors Scottish and Newcastle, local pubs were still getting the traditional wooden barreled stuff from the brewery up the road, while the rest of the nation/world was getting aluminium barrels of goats piss. I wondered why more people didn't drink Theakstons in the UK until I tasted the stuff that they all got.

    So, the moral of the story is to say, don't believe that any beer you get that isn't brewed up the road will be real beer. And of course just because it is brewed up the road, doesn't mean it is either - think Newcastle Brown for Newcastle folk, which is nothing to what it used to be. Thanks to S&N breweries for that too.

    Check this, this and this out...

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  36. Re:It'll all be fine and merry! by Kiffer · · Score: 1

    Actualy, you'll have to mention your brand of beer as walking in to a Bar and say in I'll have a beer/pint please will be followed by some one asking of what...

    and as for the Christianity brand(tm) as long as you arn't a shite about it no one else will be.

    reminds me of a Grrl from canada last year who informed me that she hated catholics ... which might not be a good thing to say ...

    most people wont ask you, so it's not likly to come up.
    it's a non-issue.

  37. Re:It'll all be fine and merry! by OrangeSpyderMan · · Score: 1

    You don't actually know very much about Ireland do you?

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  38. Re:oh good. by Kiffer · · Score: 1
    nice warm beer
    Irish drink there drink cold ...
    england is where they might rather have unchilled or warm beer.
  39. Argh! by Hershmire · · Score: 1

    I time it perfectly: Study in Germany for 8 weeks that coincide with the Linuxbierwanderung and maybe pick up a little German (or two) while I'm there...

    ...Then they move it to Ireland. Why, oh, why did my ancestors migrate to America?!

    --
    if(!toilet_paper) roll.replace(new roll); //Stupid roommates.
  40. Free as in speech by blametheduck · · Score: 1

    You may have a look at the source - i.e. the boiler, pipes etc, if you ask at the local brewery :)

    But since the Irish beer is of excellent quality there is no need to debug it anyway.

    And furthermore who wants to add features to beer??

    duck

    1. Re:Free as in speech by tybalt44 · · Score: 1

      "Apu, you got any of that beer with the candy floating in it? You know...Skittle-brau?"

    2. Re:Free as in speech by sugrshack · · Score: 1
      "There is no such product. You must have dreamt it"

      "Okay, then give me some skittles, and a six-pack of beer."

      --
      I can't believe it's not lard!
  41. Re:oh good. by jeremyp · · Score: 2

    Popular misconception: The British drink their beer warm.

    It's not warm in the normal "warm water" sense of the word merely less cold than beer which is deliberately chilled using artifical refrigeration.

    Most beers are brewed to completion at the brewery, then pasteurised to remove all the bugs and then chilled so they don't go bad and distributed. British "real ale" is shipped before the brewing process has been completed and it is finished off in the beer cellar of the pub - you can't chill beer that is still brewing. Thus, the taste of a pint of beer in England depends almost as much on the skill of the pub owner as it does on the brand of beer.

    Cynics might claim that you don't need to chill British beer because it tastes good enough not to have to anaesthetise your taste buds.

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    All I want is a secure system where it's easy to do anything I want. Is that too much to ask ~~ Randall Munroe
  42. Re:oh good. by dannywalk · · Score: 1

    You can get Beamish and Murphys in many pubs in Belfast, although Beamish is at it's best in Cork.

    --
    Man Needs God Like Birds Need Helicopters
  43. Re:ta bearla agat? by sleaterkinney · · Score: 1

    Más é do thoil é - Please Go raibh maith agat - Thank You Sláinte - Cheers

  44. Just my luck.... by joepancakes · · Score: 1

    I was in Doolin on Good Friday this year. The only day of the year the pubs are closed!!!!

  45. Can't wait to see this code by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2

    Is it really a good idea to have Linux contributions coming from exhausted, sleep deprived, beer addled coders?

    --
    It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
    1. Re:Can't wait to see this code by Kruemelmo · · Score: 1

      It might produce some good laughs reviewing the code. That's worth it.

  46. I just realized how lame my life is. by RedCard · · Score: 1

    I read the header and I thought that this would be a fun thing to do!

    But I've been thinking lately about how big the world is, and what I should do, and where I should go.

    Graduation's looming.

    And I realized how lame this all sounds. They're going to get drunk and then program. Think about it. They're going to "Enjoy the bandwidth" - what does that mean, really? They're going to LOVE lower ping times, and LOVE the fact that things download SLIGHTLY FASTER.

    My friends, we truly are an insular community of fools.

    --R

  47. doppelbock homebrew by brer_rabbit · · Score: 2

    Too bad the Linux Beer Hike isn't coming to Seattle, or I could serve up some homebrew Doppelbock Beer. At least the label is appropriate.

    http://www.nwlink.com/~kaf/doppelbock_small.jpg

  48. Re:Uh... by Craig+Davison · · Score: 1
    Remember kids, sarcasm is lame:
    http://www.seanbaby.com/stupid/sarcasm.htm

    It's been shown that sarcasm is not actually funny.

  49. Re:It'll all be fine and merry! by Draoi · · Score: 2
    Just don't mention your preferences of brand of beer or Christianity and you'll do fine.

    That sounds like bollocks, pal. Having lived both in Ireland and the US, I know that in Ireland nobody gives a damn what religion you happen to have, if any. Not so in the US - somebody always seems to be touting their particular brand of Trvth(tm) .....

    --
    Alison

    "It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." - Albert Einstein

  50. Re:You by benzapp · · Score: 1

    Don't you know it.

    Now, whose got that eight ball???

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    I don't read or respond to AC posts
  51. and i just got back... by tsphere · · Score: 1

    man, if i'd only known about this i would have rescheduled my trip!

    seriously, ireland is an awesome place for this... the best hiking and beer you'll ever find, plus friendly friendly people.

    p.s. the accent is really good out west... they say they talk so fast 'cause there's so much to say! be sure to ask for directions before going anywhere, well worth it.

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    Tetris rules.
  52. For those that travel a lot anyway... by MountainLogic · · Score: 2

    A simular type of group (beer, fun and exercise) is the Hash House Harriers. They call themselves "a drinking club with a running problem." They can be found in just about every city worldwide and always welcome visitors. A good introduction can be found at half mind. I've always been able to find a hash in any city I go to and it beats going back to the hotel and atching CNN.

  53. Re:oh good. by Draoi · · Score: 2
    nice warm beer

    Wha'?? Beer is served icy-cold. If you're not happy with that, you can even get Guinness extra-cold on tap. Warm beer tends to remind me of British local ales (which are excellent, BTW).

    bunch of savages

    Whatever .. - ever been to Ireland or do you just get your info from Quiet Man re-runs?

    ... murphey's ...

    That's Murphy's, you moron! Jesus ....

    --
    Alison

    "It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." - Albert Einstein

  54. Re:ta bearla agat? by Draoi · · Score: 4, Interesting
    That should be deich pionta ... Here's a list of more numbers;

    Aon - one
    Dó - two
    Trí - three
    Ceathar - four
    Cúig - five
    Sé - six
    Seacht - seven
    Naoí - nine
    Deich - ten

    If you're ordering more than ten - yee-harr! :-) Note that you use a different terms for counting people in Irish.

    BTW - there's Linux in the Gaeltacht. I know of the Gaeilge GNU/Linux localisation project. Also, there's this company, which I helped set up. They produce Linux-based network devices for small business. Some of the source-code comments are in Irish ... 8-)

    --
    Alison

    "It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." - Albert Einstein

  55. WTF! -- Don't scare me.. by Coleco · · Score: 1

    I thought you meant for they're raising the price of beer.

  56. Avoid!!! by KingSchlong · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hate to say it, but Doolin is a fucking hole.
    It's basically just a long road with some shops, guest houses and two or three pubs, and that's it, and the only reason it exists is as a place to stay for people who want to visit the Cliffs of Moher. Oh, and the tapwater is brown. Bring cash, cause there isn't an ATM for a couple of miles.
    Have fun (snicker).

  57. long have i looked on by gravious · · Score: 1

    and wished i could participate... now considering doolin is but a hop, skip and a jump from gaillimh and my girlfriend wants some sefood chowder there i think i may be elected - please note post was posted mainly for warm-fuzzy-selfish reasons

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    Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas.
  58. Re:It'll all be fine and merry! by Heywood+Yabuzof · · Score: 1


    Well, she probably hated Guinness as well, so who cares about her! :-)

  59. All becomes clear now by hacksoncode · · Score: 1
    "The objectives are valorous - hike to the pub, drink beer and exchange ideas until closing time, then hack Linux through until it's morning again."

    This explains many things about Linux and the Linux community that I hadn't previously understood.

  60. Re:enjoy the craic? by https · · Score: 1

    Craic is an Anglo-Irish term meaning good conversation, good company, good times etc.

    Happily, Ireland has a craic habit, but no crack habit.

  61. Travel Tips - I've been to Doolin. by Bigger+R · · Score: 2

    I've been to Doolin (years ago) and can honestly say say it was one of the coolest weekends of my life. [If you've ever seen the movie Ryan's Daughter, it was filned there.]

    Be sure to take the morning boat across to the small island of Inishsheer (phonetically - can't remember the Irish spelling). If you're lucky, dolphins will swim alongside the boat. Check out the beach - you'd swear it was right out of a caribbean travel catalogue (the Gulf Stream ends at Ireland - there are actually Palm trees in some parts!). Right near it is an ancient church sunk into th hill. There was also a small cottage/restaurant flying a pirate flag. Totally organic. Fish caught hours before. Only a little salt added. Incredible. How food used to taste, I guess.

    Two main pubs in town. O'Conner's and Murphy's. The former has the better food, and the latter had better music. Can't really go wrong - so check them both out!

    The music. Pubs have "musicians' corner" where you can sit and start playing if you have talent. Whoever shows up: guitar, singer, fiddle - whatever. They may never have met, but they all know common songs and add their own twists to it. Sometime the whole whole pub will just stop talking and listen - knowing that that combination will never happen again. Magic.

    Crawling back to my B&B, I looked to my right:
    A full moon was silhouetting a castle.

    Fscking incredible.

    Rory.

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    1. Re:Travel Tips - I've been to Doolin. by Bigger+R · · Score: 1

      Pub names... so many visited, memory weak now. Reading the rest of the article, I see from the Map what I thought was Murphy's is now (or always was) McGann's.

      R.

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  62. Beer for free by cuba++ · · Score: 1

    Well, you don't have beer for free in Czech Republic, but:

    1) it is close to germany
    2) it is fairly populated, with decent tourist path marking
    3) and the most importantly:

    one dollar (or euro) == 3beers

    so I hope the next Linux Beer Wanderung will come to Czech Republic ;-)

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    Cuba++ let's make ++ better
    1. Re:Beer for free by DrHyde · · Score: 1

      > so I hope the next Linux Beer Wanderung will come to Czech Republic

      You volunteering to organise it then?

  63. Re:anotehr reason about the czech rep by fr2ty · · Score: 1

    You are right, but you forgot to mention the most important thing. Be proud: some czech beer might be the best beer in the world. Pilsner Urquell, Budweiser (Yes, there's _beer_ called budweiser too), the small brands... Americans get drunk from czech beer by simply looking at it, it is a special feature.

    ACK