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Fighting the Nigerian Money Scam
An anonymous reader writes "One of the most notorious spams, the Nigerian Money Scam, or 419, has reared its head again with the recent arrest of a California woman who embezzled $2.1 million from her law firm. However, anti-spammer Brad Christensen has apparently been having some success scamming the scammers. This exhibit contains some of his more successful exchanges. It seems he even managed to get some of the Nigerians to fly around the world to meet him. All in all, Bravo!"
Mr. Mobutu isn't going to give me 14% of his findings!
I gave him my account number!
There should be a moratorium on the use of the apostrophe.
Max V.
NeXTMail/MIME Mail welcome
Pfbbt, doesn't she know to hold out for the $25 million transfer like everyone else? I mean sheesh, she could have at least chosen the largest sum of money from the dozens of spam messages filling her box that day. Also, I bet she didn't even make all the payments for the transfer fees, that's why she didn't get it. ...man, some people...
I'm sure the next 1,000,000 posts will point this out. :-)
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Anybody who falls for these scams deserves what they get, not only due to the nature of the scam but the amount of publicity it has received also. Naturally the scammers also need to get burnt, Sociotey has laws for a reason, use them!
I'm ashamed to say the stupid embezzler is actually from Michigan (my home state). "Detroit" and "Royal Oak" are places in South-East Michigan. Just because "Berkeley" was mentioned doesnt mean the story was from California. Sheesh.....
I've said it before, I'll say it again:
Stupid people are everywhere. You would think (and that's your problem) that a perosn in a law firm would be smart enough to figure this out, or atleast get a lawyer to check it out before hand.
SHEESH
Sent from your iPad.
That site went down awefully quickly, so here is the cache on Google
sure, there's no money in it, but everyone could use a hobby!
if you fall for the nigerian money scam you are too stupid to have money.
The 'detroit free press' logo at the top of the page was rather a giveaway too.
creation science book
Well, they are obvioulsy not the brightest.
Did you know you can fertilize your lawn with used motor oil?
For years, white people have screwed over Africa. I guess its payback time !
Its obviously the stupid people who fall for these kind of scams - unfortunately, as is the case here, they even screw over others in the process.
Today I got an email supposedly from the Federal Presidency of Nigeria, apologising for all the 419s I've been receiving and asking for full details of the senders and the organisations they claimed to be defrauding.
I really don't think it's genuinely from the Nigerian gov, although it was posted from an IP address (195.166.233.102) RIPE says is allocated to a Nigerian ISP, rather than being routed through some open relay in Asia. However, I'm finding it hard to work out what the scam is. Spam quality control to see which addresses apply is the most likely reason I guess.
From the is-it-irony-or-is-it-obscure-humour dept.
I'm assuming you mean "dumb-ass".
I'm also assuming you mean "Berkeley, CA" and not "berkley, ca".
-- clvrmnky
If you want to read an exceptionally funny example of the Nigerian Fee scam, head on over to haxial.com -- the results are side-splitting. This all happened last week (check the dates).
I think the best solution would be to let the Open Source developer community improve the efficiency of the country, thereby reducing poverty, corruption, and crime.
By making Nigeria Open Source can we unleash the vast potential that this oil-producing country has. The enormous experience of the hardenened Open Source developers would go a long way to introduce the necessary stability in this west-African continent.
Wearing pants should always be optional.
...scam the p0rn spammers into getting arrested? These are interesting articles, but I rarely get this types of emails. Must of the spam that I get (besides credit cards, home loans) are p0rn. I would like to see the p0rn spammers get scammed. Only if I knew of a way...
One of the better "scamming the scammers" exchanges is documented here.
He plays along with the scammer, and when asked for a scan of his passport, he photoshops together a passport belonging to James Tiberius Kirk, complete with a picture of William Shatner in a Starfleet uniform. I can imagine someone trying to use that to get across the border....
The FBI regrets to inform you that your 2.1 million dollars is missing because your employee was stupid.
paintball
You obviously do not get as many of these emails as I do.
My mail runs fairly unfiltered on the server, so my mail client gets to download most everything. (Not complaining here, I realize I could change that - I am just stating a fact).
The fact is, I get more Nigerian Scam emails than I do actual spam anymore.
I would say that about 10% of my "junk" email is Klez virus, 40% is regular spam, and about 50% is Nigerian scam emails.
Look at those last two paragraphs - I get more Nigerian scam than I get actual spam anymore. I probably get between 10-12 of the Nigerian emails *a day*.
We might complain about bandwidth being used by spam, but these days Klez takes the cake on my account, followed by Nigerian crap.
That is why I care about cutting down on people using it.
And before you jump on my back about me complaining about my bandwidth, I am talking about between SMTP servers, since ultimately I pay for that one way or the other. An ISP pays per GB transferred, and anytime I get email like that, my ISP (school anything else) pays, and will eventually pass that expense on to me.
That is why I care.
- (c) 2018 Hank Zimmerman
has to be the famous buddy weiserman. Read the entire message log as it's truly hilarious (esp. the multimedia content). Get it here
Your pizza just the way you ought to have it.
the whole idea of prison is to keep individuals from physically harming others
You must have missed that whole "War on Drugs" thing that's been happening the last several decades.
I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
Dear Ordinary Civil Servants,
.JAMES BOLA [mailto:james_b13@arabia.com]
Well first off, let me just say that you had me at hello so to speak.
I am a total sucker for those that write in all caps, and then you really sold
me with the fact that this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. After all, how
many times do those come along? I'd say maybe only 5 or 6 times a year.
You are incredibly generous to only need twnety one million five hundred thousand
dollars. But, unfortunately I don't have that much money. I do have seventeen
dollars and fifty-six cents. I really want you to have all of that. I hope you
can overlook the fact that I'm several million short of your goal, but the key
is that I try hard and I'm an excellent wind surfer.
My company doesn't have an address as of yet, but we are really trying. If you
would be willing to send me $500, then I can register the company name and also
get a PO BOX for a year. That way I can have an address and then we can get this
ball of wax rolling. In a similar vein, I don't have a bank account. I don't trust
them. Quite frankly, between you and me, there are a lot of scammers out there
that will just try to take your money - and I don't think either of us want
that - we need it so that we can get RICH! Right?
Lastly, I notice that you are a doctor. Can I ask you a question. I know that
this started as a financial discussion, but I have a really painful burning
rash "down there" if you know what I mean. Do you have any experience with
this? Can you recommend anything I can do to make it go away?
Please keep in mind that I only have just over seventeen dollars, and I want
to give all of that to you so that I can be really really rich as soon as
possible. So the cure for my intense burning pain needs to be free. And easy,
I'm kind of lazy - hey, at least I'm honest right?
So anyway, why don't you talk to your people, and I'll... Well, I'll just
talk to myself and maybe do a little rubbing "down there" and I look forward
to anything you can offer me - you know, on the $500 deal. I really hope you
can come through with it - if not, I'm not sure what else to do - I guess I
might have to get a job. Could you give me a job? Not like anything sexual -
just one where you pay me a lot to do very little... And maybe some golf. I
like golf - do you like golf? Maybe someday you and I can play golf together.
We could start out doing miniature golf - your treat, and then maybe once I'm
really really rich with your help, I can pay for my own regular golf fees.
I can't want to hear back from you - please act fast!
Your's,
Johannes Kepler
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DR
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:31 PM
> To: *
> Subject:
>
>
> FROM: DR. JAMES BOLA
> TEL:234-1-4700390
> FAX:234-9-2721548
> LAGOS - NIGERIA.
>
>
> ATTN: PRESIDENT / CEO.
>
> STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL RE: TRANSFER OF
> US$21.5 MILLION(TWENTY ONE MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND US
> DOLLARS ONLY).
>
> I KNOW THIS EMAIL WILL REACH YOU AS A SURPRISE, BUT NEED NOT
> TO WORRY AS WE ARE USING THE ONLY SECURED AND CONFIDENTIAL
> MEDIUM AVAILABLE TO SEEK FOR FOREIGN ASSISTANCE/PARTNERSHIP
> IN A BUSINESS TRANSACTION WHICH IS OF MUTUAL BENEFIT.
>
> I AM A MEMBER OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA CONTRACT
> AWARD AND MONITORING COMMITTEE IN THE NIGERIA NATIONAL
> PETROLEUM CORPORATION (NNPC) SOMETIME AGO; MY COMMITTEE
> AWARDED A CONTRACT TO A FOREIGN FIRM IN NNPC.THIS CONTRACT
> WAS OVER INVOICED TO THE TUNE OF US$21.5M. U.S.DOLLARS. THIS
> WAS DONE DELIBERATELY THE OVER- INVOICING WAS A DEAL BY MY
> COMMITTEE TO BENEFIT FROM THE PROJECT. WE NOW WANT TO
> TRANSFER THIS MONEY, WHICH IS IN A SUSPENSE ACCOUNT WITH NNPC
> INTO ANY OVERSEAS ACCOUNT,WHICH WE EXPECT YOU TO PROVIDE FOR US.
> SHARE:
> FOR PROVIDING THE ACCOUNT WHERE WE SHALL REMIT THE MONEY
> INTO, YOU WILL BE ENTITLED TO 30% OF THE MONEY.60% WILL BE
> FOR ME AND MY PARTNERS WHILE 10% HAS BEEN MAPPED OUT FROM THE
> TOTAL SUM TO COVER ANY EXPENSES THAT MAY BE INCURRED BY US
> DURING THE COURSE OF THIS TRANSFER, BOTH LOCALLY AND
> INTERNATIONAL EXPENSES.IT MAY INTEREST YOU TO KNOW THAT A
> SIMILAR TRANSACTION WAS CARRIED OUT WITH ONE MR.PATRICE
> MILLER,PRESIDENT OF CRANE INTERNATIONAL TRADING CORP,OF 153
> EAST 57 ST.,28 FLOOR,NY10022,TEL:(212)-308-7788 AND
> TELEX:6731689.THE DEAL WAS CONCLUDED AND ALL COVERING
> DOCUMENT WERE FORWARDED TO MR.MILLER TO AUTHETICATE THE
> CLAIM.ONCE THE FUNDS WERE TRANSFERRED,MR. MILLER PRESENTED
> HIS BANK WITH ALL THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS AND REMITTED THE WHOLE
> FUNDS TO ANOTHER BANK ACCOUNT AND DISAPPEARED COMPLETELY. MY
> COLLEAGUES WERE SHATTERED,AS SUCH OPPORTUNITIES DO NOT COME
> ALL THE TIME.TO COMMERCE THIS DEAL THEREFORE, I WOULD REQUIRE
> THE FOLLOWING:
>
> 1. YOUR COMPANY'S NAME, ADDRESS, TEL & FAX NUMBERS.
>
> 2. YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER AND ADDRESS WHERE THE MONEY WILL
> BE REMITTED.
>
> THE ABOVE INFORMATION WOULD BE USED TO MAKE FORMAL
> APPLICATIONS AS A MATTER OF PROCEDURE FOR THE RELEASE OF THE
> MONEY AND ONWARD TRANSFER TO YOUR ACCOUNT. IT DOES NOT MATTER
> WHETHER OR NOT YOUR COMPANY DOES CONTRACT PROJECTS OF THIS
> NATURE DESCRIBED HERE. THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT YOUR COMPANY
> WON THE MAJOR CONTRACT AND SUBCONTRACTED IT OUT TO OTHER
> COMPANIES. MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, BIG TRADING COMPANIES OR
> FIRMS OF UNRELATED FIELDS WIN MAJOR CONTRACTS AND
> SUBCONTRACTS TO MORE SPECIALIZED FIRMS FOR EXECUTION OF SUCH
> CONTRACTS.
>
> WE HAVE STRONG RELIABLE CONNECTIONS AND CONTACTS AT THE
> CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA, AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF
> FINANCE AND WE HAVE NO DOUBT THAT ALL THE MONEY WILL BE
> RELEASED AND TRANSFERRED IF WE GET THE NECESSARY FOREIGN
> PARTNER TO ASSIST US IN THIS DEAL. THEREFORE, WHEN THE
> BUSINESS IS SUCCESSFULLY CONCLUDED WE SHALL THROUGH OUR SAME
> CONNECTIONS WITHDRAW ALL DOCUMENTS USED FROM ALL THE
> CONCERNED GOVERNMENT MINISTRIES FOR 100% SECURITY.
>
> WE ARE ORDINARY CIVIL SERVANTS AND WE WILL NOT WANT TO MISS
> THIS ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY TO GET RICH. WE WANT THIS
> MONEY TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE OVERSEAS ACCOUNTS FOR US,
> BEFORE THE PRESENT DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT STARTS AUDITING ALL
> FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OWNED MINISTRIES. PLEASE CONTACT
> IMMEDIATELY THROUGH MY TEL / FAX NUMBER WHETHER OR NOT YOU
> ARE INTERESTED IN THIS DEAL. IF YOU ARE NOT, IT WILL ENABLE
> ME SCOUT FOR ANOTHER FOREIGN PARTNER TO CARRY OUT THIS DEAL.
> BUT WHERE YOU ARE INTERESTED, SEND THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS
> AFOREMENTIONED HEREIN THROUGH MY ABOVE FAX NUMBER AS TIME IS
> OF THE ESSENCE IN THIS BUSINESS. I WAIT IN ANTICIPATION OF
> YOUR FULLEST CO-OPERATION. YOURS FAITHFULLY, DR.JAMES BOLA
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
There used to be a 'investigators' program on telly here, & it seemed that every week they'd have some pensioner get ripped off his life savings, buying into a get rich quik scam.
You think when some salesman tells someone about some scheme promising a 30% return every month, that the normal response would be 'well the scheme obviously doesn't work, otherwise why do you need to go arround selling the scheme to others. If it worked you'd be living it up & taking it easy while keep the scheme secret amongst yourselves.' Afterall why would one go arround trying to make money selling schemes if a scheme is so good? wouldn't they be in the scheme instead?
Consequently if someone's so greedy that they let their greed get ahead of their commonsense, & they then buy into a get rich quick scheme, then they deserve being ripped off.
It's simply karma's way of punishing the greedy. So IMAO there should be a clause in consumer protection laws, where if commonsense says a scheme is too good to be true, then there's no consumer protection for the gullible conned by them.
Anyone ever thought of sending these freaks a trojan when they ask for a passport scan? Maybe send them a nice passport.jpg.lnk.
I love seeing graphs of the slashdot effect happening. :P
Get Firefox!
You're better off paying $5/mo for a subscription to TotalFark.
If you're paying $10/mo for _Slashdot_ of all things, you're an idiot, I'm sorry. What, you don't get the sourceforge ads. Boo hoo.
No new content means you shouldn't have to pay them. The fact knowing that I'd be supporting people like michael makes me vomit.
According to spammers should have their hands cut off.
Spamming is theft!
Fight Spammers!
Don't forget Buddy Weiserman! It's a great story.
bash$
According to the Code of Hammurabi spammers should have their hands cut off.
Spamming is theft!
Fight Spammers!
Re-read the article, it's a Rochester Hills Michigan woman, working for a law firm in Berkley Michigan as posted at www.freep.com. Also known as, the Detroit Free Press.
Instead of getting a 419 Nigerian scam, I get a 404 Forbidden!
Coincidence? I think not.
It will probably not come as a surprise to know that the "Nigerian Scam" predates the internet and really, in its essential form, predates Nigeria. If you're interested in historical examples of this sort of thing, you might want to check out sniggle.net's Scams page.
Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur
Anyhoo, I guess it isn't just daftness that bring people into this kind of scam. Some get so focused on the prize, they never connect with their reason... In the linked story, a German buisnessman also attended meetings with the nigerian scammers, but realzied what was going on and left the meeting. The Norwegians weren't actually fooled for a lot of money, but rather used in a check fraud. This guy acutally had some 10 million dollars, because he cashed the false chack from the nigerians. Unfortunlately, he transfered most of the money to an account abroad and the he and the nigerians were caught.
So, don't let the greed rule ya!
Notice the lawfirm says that the lady in question did not have authorization to do wire transfers from the company accounts, and the bank manager who authorized all the transfers should have known this.
From the sounds of it, that could put the bank at fault.
Damn yankee scammers. ;-))
All the Nigerian scammers have relatives in other countries, who they use as agents for pickups. They don't actually leave Nigeria themselves.
What scam? I got my 10% in the mail as promised. I want you to know that Mr.Pius Kako is a fine upstanding civil servant who just wanted a little more out of life.
So what's the problem? Ya jealous that we both made out quite well and you didn't?
-- Many men would appreciate a woman's mind more if they could fondle it
It's only the humorless, christian or otherwise, who would have trouble with the parent. It's funny precisely because the assumptions are ridiculous.
paintball
And easily offended christians don't always make the best audience.
paintball
I don't think stupid people deserve to have any money. The Nigerians seem to be enterprising and resourceful - they've earned it.
Remember kiddies: It's not so surprising that a fool and his money are soon parted. What's amazing is that the fool and his money ever got together in the first place.
It's simple: I demand prosecution for torture.
...WHY NIGERIAN SCAMMERS ALWAYS (ALWAYS!) WRITE IN ALL-CAPS.
These are pretty much the only messages I get written in all-caps.
Even the Korean spam I get uses a better writing style.
And all of the responses that the folks linked here got are written that way.
Are Africans for some reason obliged to write in all-caps?
P.S.: Slashdot's lameness filter stopped from writing this post in all-caps. So much for attempted humour.
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You may like my a cappella music
...that you've forwarded their e-mails to phonebusters they stop e-mailing you.
It worked for me, at least...
--
Todd's Law: All things being equal, you lose!
All this time I thought it was just free devalued Nigerian currency...
The webpage linked to in the submission mentions you can forward your 419 spam to the US Secret Service Task Force. It wouldn't hurt to sent it to the Federal Trade Commission as well.
As great as it might sound to make a bunch of spammers fly around the world, a reminder is in order.
These are crooks. They break laws. They're not nice people. They might be desperate. If they get mad, they might kill you.
OK, maybe you think you can conceal your identity. Maybe you think your black belt or that Beretta you carry under your suit jacket will pull you through in a pinch. Are you willing to bet your life on it?
If this gives you even the least ammount of doubt, just leave it up to the pros--FBI, etc.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
It seems he even managed to get some of the Nigerians to fly around the world to meet him. All in all, Bravo!
So, let's see: The Nigerians have scammed at least one person to the tune of $2.1 million dollars. However, they had to make a few useless flights around the world.
Gee, as scams go, they seem to be ahead, so I imagine the Nigerians are saying "Bravo!"
Java is the blue pill
Choose the red pill
So, is the fact that she is married and goes to church makes her less or more guilty?
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
I wouldn't want you folks to think that all of these "Out of Africa" scams involve Nigeria. I got an African scam e-mail a few days ago that claimed to be from the Congo. Here it is:
FROM: MR TEMI JOHNSON
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO.
EMAIL:temijohnson@rediffmail.com
TEL:44 7775770781(SATELLITE PHONE)
Dear Sir,
SEEKING YOUR IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE.
Please Permit me to make your acquaintance in so
informal a manner. This is necessitated by my urgent need to reach a
dependable and trust wordy foreign
partner. This request may seem strange and
unsolicited but I will crave your indulgence and pray that you view it
seriously. My name is MR TEMI JOHNSON of the
Democratic Republic of Congo and One of the close aides to the former
President of the Democratic Republic of Congo
LAURENT KABILA of blessed
memory, may his soul rest in peace.
Due to the military campaign of LAURENT KABILA to
force out the rebels in my country, I and some of my
colleagues were instructed by Late President Kabila
to go abroad to purchase arms and ammunition worth of
Twenty Million, Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars only
(US$20,500,000.00) to fight the rebel group. But when
President Kabila was killed in a bloody shoot-out by one of his aide a day
before we were schedule to travel out of Congo,
We immediately decided to divert the fund into a private security company
here in Congo for safe keeping. The security of
the said amount is presently being threatened here following the arrest
and seizure of properties of Col. Rasheidi Karesava
(One of the aides to Laurent Kabila) a tribesman, and some other Military
Personnel from our same tribe, by the new
President of the Democratic Republic of Congo, the son of late President
Laurent Kabila, Joseph Kabila.
In view of this, we need a reliable and trustworthy foreign partner who
can assist us to move this money out of my country
as the beneficiary.
WE have sufficient ''CONTACTS'' to move the fund under Diplomatic Cover to
a security company in the europe in your
name. This is to ensure that the Diplomatic Baggage is marked
''CONFIDENTIAL'' and it will not pass through normal
custom/airport screening and clearance.
Our inability to move this money out of Congo all
This while lies on our lack of trust on our supposed good friends (western
countries) who suddenly became hostile to those
of us who worked with the late President Kabila, immediately after his son
took office. Though we have neither seen nor
met each other, the information We gathered from an associate
who has worked in your country has encouraged and convinced us that with
your sincere assistance, this transaction will
be properly handled with modesty
and honesty to a huge success within two weeks. The said money is a state
fund and therefore requires a total
confidentiality.
Thus, if you are willing to assist us move this fund out of Congo, you can
contact me through my email address above with
your telephone, fax number and personal information to enable us discuss
the modalities and what will be your share
(percentage) for assisting us.
I must use this opportunity and medium to implore You to exercise the
utmost indulgence to keep this Matter extraordinarily
confidential, Whatever your Decision, while I await your prompt response.
Thank you and GodBless.
Best Regards
MR TEMI JOHNSON
This sounded to me like such a good deal that I immediately sent the following reply:
Mr. Johnson:
No need to negotiate on the terms. We both recognize that your intentions are less than honorable, and we likewise both recognize that both of us are motivated by greed. My terms are these: 37.5% of the total, a new Mercedes S-Class V-12 (fully equipped) discretely purchased from a local dealer that I will specify, and a two-week all-expense-paid trip to Norway and Switzerland (there to establish a new bank account). Take it or leave it.
My daytime phone number is (218) 246-2776. Do not call me at home in the evening. I do not keep my wife advised on private matters of this nature, if you get my drift.
EW
The phone number I sent is actually that of the local District Attorney's office. So far, I have not received a reply
People shouldn't be able to accumulate $2.1m before demonstrating their complete incompetence. Obviously, the Nigerian Money Scam didn't reach these people in time to demonstrate their complete inability to deal with money before substantial amounts were involved. If the spam had reached the woman when she was in college, or the lawyer's roomate when he was in law school, maybe neither of them would have made it through school, and they would be doing something safely removed from handling large amounts of money. The clear antidote to that is more spam, not less; give people the opportunity to remove themselves from the economy (or gene pool, as the case may be) early, before they can do too much damage. It's safer for the rest of us. Really.
I've seen a lot of links posted to the haxial.com site. You should also check out this thread on thespamletters.com. This guy is a riot! It's too funny to think of the guy replying enough that there are 13 messages in the thread.
Random is the New Order.
Heres another humorous reply. I take no credit for it(it cites a slashdot posting interestingly enough).
man, i really wish i'd get one of these letters so i could have some fun as well.
im jealous... what fun to break up the day... answer and lead on some scam artists!
here's my angle. why not at some point in the transaction make the pivotal part of it that you need to fly there (but a ticket), but you need 200 bucks more to go.
SEE IF YOU CAN GET THEIR CASH!
that would be the crowning achievement. you have your mission... fufill it!
There's nothing Intelligent about Intelligent Design.
According to the U.S. Secret Service: """If you have been victimized by one of these schemes, please forward appropriate written documentation to the United States Secret Service, Financial Crimes Division, 950 H Street, NW, Washington, D.C. 20223, or telephone (202) 406-5850, or contact by e-mail.
If you have received a letter, but have not lost any monies to this scheme, please fax a copy of that letter to (202) 406-5031."""
-m
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...if it affords them enough money to purchase keyboards with and keys.
...Well it's just hypocritical to think we would not be driven to such means in the same circumstances.
I mean, for we who are so fortunate as to be blessed with the choice between lower and uppercase letters to sit back and point the finger...
For shame people, for shame.
CONFIDENTIAL MESSAGE TO MIKE ABA:
I WILL BE FORWARDING YOU MY ACCOUNT DETAILS POST HASTE. YOUR DAYS OF FORCED SERVITUDE TO THE UPPERCASE WILL SOON END MY DEAR FRIEND. HOW IS YOUR FINE FAMILY DOING? PLEASE IGNORE THE NEGATIVE VOICES OF THESE SLASHDOTTERS. THEY ARE NOT GOOD CHURCH GOING FOLK LIKE US. BLESSED BE, MIKE. NATHDOT
And here I thought that this was the one e-mail that could make me millions. Nigerian Arms Money Will Make Me Rich Enough To Retire
I'm am willing to bet that some of this multi-million dollar scam is going to "perpetrators of terror," especially after hearing countries like Siera Leone is involved. Hey, NSA, FBI, CIA, Secret Service, and US Postal Police, and all pertinent law enforcement agencies, listen up! If you're reading this, you need to work overtime to follow every single lead that a victim of this scam sent to you. This is a great way for terrorists to "hide in numbers" and get funding for their weapons. It doesn't take much money to finance these scumbags. Maybe instead of the DEA running ads about how drug money funds terrorists, there should be commercials of how gullible idiots can do the same by falling for these stupid scams!
Linux at home
A few months ago, I had an offer from this Dr. Fafa dude in Nigeria. He wanted me to hold onto $21,320,000 for him. I told him that since I live in Canada, I needed to know how much that would be in Canadian dollars. He wrote back and said it'd be $21,319,999,998.44 Canadian. Near as I can tell, he musta multiplied by a thousand, and since the U.S./Canada exchange rate at the time was $1.56, he then SUBTRACTED $1.56 from $21,320,000,000. Of all the Nigerian scam artists, I have to deal with the Dan Quayle of the bunch.
One has to assume that the Nigerian scammers are sending out millions of spam, right? They're not using unique reply-to addresses for each one right?
In this case, the address mikeaba@mail.com is at, of course, mail.com. Surely mail.com must have gotten dozens, if not hundreds, of spam reports altering them that a mail.com address was being used for a scam.
What I don't understand is how on earth that address didn't get taken offline by mail.com within a very short time of the original scam/spam being sent. My experience has been that yahoo.com and hotmail.com do a pretty decent job of deleting accounts of addresses that are being used a spam dropboxes. But not mail.com?
Can someone explain what I'm missing here?
-S
--- What parts of "shall make no law", "shall not be infringed", and "shall not be violated" don't you understand?
You steal ~2mil $ from your company and wire it to offshore accounts. When the fraud is discovered, claim idiocy and stay 3 years in prison. But after 3 years you are with 2 milion $.
The Raven
The Raven
I always reply to 419 letters. I tell them that I've put all my bank account numbers and passwords on a secure web site, and then I give them the goatse.cx URL.
I don't get it. They trick the guy into buying a computer, or maybe 2 computers, at some store. Do they get something out of having the UPC codes? Maybe I'm just smoking crack but it seems pointless.
Why get upset?? This guy decided to turn the Nigerian Spam Scam into a contest. You forward the emails to him, he adds up the amounts promised to you. I'm currently in about 10th place with $82 million. There's no prize, it's just for fun.
And Slashdot already posted this entertaining saga of someone who pretended to go along with it to see what would happen. Hilarious.
CONFIDENTIAL U.K. FAX NUMBER: 44-870-1309342
.You were recommended by a close confidant. Who assured us of your capability and
Dear Sir,
Pardon me for starting this great proposal this way as it might surprise you. My name is Yuvraj
Kailash a native of Nepal and attorney to the late king of Nepal who died as a result of loss in
temper caused by an argument between him and his family, as they were against him marrying his
fiancée
reliability to assist us. We seek the assistance of someone who is genuinely interested in
entering into a business relationship with long term focus, and willingness of a kind heart to
help.
If you are conversant with events in Nepal in May/June last year 2001, (June 1 2001), the media
was filled with reports that Crown Prince Dipendra of Nepal had shot and killed several members of
the Nepalese Royal Family, among whom were his parents King Birenda and Queen Aiswarya, before
trying to kill himself.
Prior to the late kings death (Prince Dipendra), he kept aside a secret amount of money, for his
fiancée (Miss Divyani Rana) worth over US$30,000,000.00(Thirty million United States Dollars).
This was made in the heat of misunderstanding between him and members of his family. The money was
kept away in such a way to prevent any member of his family from having any access or trace to the
funds, which was just a part of his wealth, this was like a gift to his fiancée and a further
affirmation to her that he was surly going to marry her, even though, his family was against their
marriage. We have kept this a secret for sometime now and feel this is the right time to execute
this transaction.
The death of my late boss, left us stranded, we have therefore been searching for a genuine and
reliable person or company of trust and with whom the Nepalese Royal Family have never had any
previous, personal or business relationship with. That person will assist in the transfer and
business re-investment of this money. We cannot do it alone due to our present social status. We
also intend to give you a reasonable share of the funds for your assistance. These funds have been
hidden away, known only to his fiancée and myself. We would want you to safeguard this fund from
being clamped down by any body or agencies.
As soon as we receive your letter of acceptance/acknowledgement, I shall give you more highlights
on this transaction.
THIS IS A RISK FREE TRANSACTION AND MUST NOT BE REVILED TO ANYONE NOT EVEN YOUR LAWYER, ATTORNEY,
FAMILY, FRIENDS ETC. If you are capable and trust worthy and can keep to our instructions to make
the above Proposal a reality.
Then CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY ONLY THROUGH OUR CONFIDENTIAL U.K FAX NUMBER: 44-870-1309342 AS
INDICATED ABOVE
DO NOT REPLY US BY EMAIL. Please indicate in your reply your PERSONAL/CONFIDENTIAL TELEPHONE
NUMBERS, CELLULAR OR MOBILE NUMBER, CONFIDENTIAL FAX NUMBER AND YOUR CONFIDENTIAL EMAIL ADDRESS
when replying.
ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE DO NOT REPLY BY EMAIL. Your Reply Should be by Fax only to 44-870-1309342
(United kingdom)
GOD BLESS YOU.
Yuvraj Kailash
I wonder if there are advisory sites that give potential scammers information about what to look out for when scamming people. E.g. Don't give your targets any money until they have given you their account details, or maybe a few clues about how to know you're having your chain totally pulled.
http://pcblues.com - Digits and Wood
This is grandma.
...
This is grandma with a computer.
This is Bob. Bob sold Grandma the computer grandma uses to send e-mail.
This is the e-mail grandma sent
This is the building grandma brought down...
Yea, it will probably work just about as well as those stupid ass drug commercials.
Drug sales don't fund terrorists -- black markets do.
Did anyone else see the WiredMag (hard copy) piece on scamming the sammers? 'twas funny. August issue I think...
Magnitude 4.8 (yeah, that would be a nice jolt), in Dudley, W. Midlands, at 23:53 GMT on 22 Sep.
find this one funny.
Your hair look like poop, Bob! - Wanker.
REPORT # 1 ?The Insider?s Guide to Advertising for Free on the Internet?
ORDER REPORT FROM: # 1 FROM:
[snip]
Orange Park, FL 32073
A copy of this post is being sent to the postmaster in Orange Park. Have a nice day.
I pledge allegiance to the flag...
of the Corporate States of America...
It is informative. I didn't know that he was hopping up and down in a yellow suit. Now I'm informed.
Anyhow, Jon was on the other side of the fountain giving me the documents. What John Jorsett doesn't realize is that Mr. Aba is colorblind, so he sees orange as yellow. Fortunately, I knew to wear an all-orange suit (with orange bowler had borrowed from the John Steed estate.)
There should be a moratorium on the use of the apostrophe.
Max V.
NeXTMail/MIME Mail welcome
"Everything I needed to learn about Scamming you out of all your money I learned on Slashdot."
But since it's only tangential to this nigerian scam topic I've created a journal entry.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
I thought it sounded funny that he needed 24,000 dollars to finish the deal but what the hell im gonna get so much more.
Thats why he hasnt contacted me he got that james kirk guy to transfer for him.
"What a maroon..ha ha...what an ignoramaus"
Lemme Hear It
I wouldn't email him back, but if you do, please tell him the car has been sold.
You might want to report him to the FBI so they can see if there is a pattern of this happening. I suspect attempted identity theft.
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
Are you saying business executives and lawyers can't be daft?
You know, the middle man is so expensive, and I figured, why did they really want to pay me $15 million just for a basic bank transfer service. So I figured they might as well just go to the horse's mouth. So in any case, I asked them to send me a registered mail to confirm that they were serious, at my business address (Fur Trading Corp., Washington DC) in care of my secretary "Uce Depney". UCE Dep. FTC CRC-240 Washington, DC 20580 I especially asked them to include a copy of the email that they sent with my reply, and to remind me that they were the original writers of the email. Soooo... if they do happen to be in America, we can see something to go on. If not, our friends over at the Unsolicited Commercial Email program of the FTC will have a good laugh.
Correct Horse Battery Staple: 72 bits of entropy. Enter "Correct H" into google. When it generates the phrase, that's
In 1991, I received a letter from a Nigerian gentleman making me an offer too good to be true. I showed it to my friends, we laughed about it, all the while wondering whether there was anyone alive actually stupid enough to fall for such an obvious con.
Apparently, there are more stupid people than even my cynical self would have believed.
The question is: why? The alarm bells should have been ringing so loudly inside the head of this stupid embezzling bitch that it was deafening.
I get stuff forwarded from well-meaning friends all of the time about Proctor & Gamble's connection to Satanism, JATO rockets and 1967 Chevy Impalas, Neiman-Marcus cookie recipes - each story obvious bullshit, but they get forwarded anyway, and repeated by the gullible, endlessly, countlessly.
Why? Not all of the unwitting spreaders of these tall tales are stupid, but they do seem to lack any critical faculties.
Is this something that should be taught at school for those who don't just innately get it? CAN it be taught?
Neopets - the best free game on the Int
A few years back, there was this really cool scam. Some guys got the idea that if they sold copies of a free operating system, they'd have something that looked like a big-time computer company. So they got it going and took the company public with an IPO. The suckers put a ton of money into their company. Then the stock price went down by over 99%, but the insiders had cashed out by then.
I have helped dozens of itinerant Nigerian millionaires move their cash, nicest people you'll ever want to meet. Ms. Abachi is a real peach, I've probably assisted her 10 times now. She's always forgetting she can't take her money back into Nigeria after we've gone through all that trouble getting it out! Anyway, I'm now a millionaire many times over, and am thinking of teaching others this remarkable system. Any one know a good way of marketing it?
So what does Mr. Adkisson do, you ask? He is an attorney specializing in asset protection. If you are a wealthy Enron executive with creditors barking at your door, he is the man to see, although he charges $50,000 up front if you are stupid enough to contact him after you have claims against you (he's more at risk for helping you.)
From his website, he seems honest and aboveboard, ethical even. He gives out a large amount of detailed information for free, but of course, anyone needing his kind of services needs a lawyer, not a do-it-yourself manual.
His business is protecting assets from financial and legal risk. It sounds good, until you realize that this is the systemized creation of externalities, which are a downfall of free markets.
Externalities, for those of you unfamiliar with the term, are those costs of doing business like pollution, illness, or global poverty, that people other than the businiss have to pay for.
So is he helping people evade legitimate responsibilities? He is ethical enough to address the question on his own site
But much of his website makes me think he is helping top CEOs figure out how to protect assets from seizure by creditors before those creditors even know they need to be worried about seizing assets. If so, he is a worse scam artist than any Nigerian.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
I've gotten at least half a dozen Nigerian Money Scam emails, and it all started when I posted my unaltered email on slashdot. Anyway, I just forward any scam I get to the FTC. I wish I could forward it to the FBI, too, but I don't know a good address with which to do it. Anyone know one?
Danish != nationality
Poet was advised of the charges during an initial appearance before a federal magistrate in Detroit on Friday. She came to court alone and left without comment. What, no lawyer would represent her? After she embezzled money from her OWN law firm. Go figure... "Hey, protect me. No, I won't steal from you. Really..."
"PC Load Letter? What the $@#% does that mean?!"
No, you go to prison if you break the law and are found guilty. If "harming" someone was a prerequisite, then any crime that did not cause physical injury would result in no prison time.
And quite frankly, I want people like these scammers (and incidentally, many CEOs as well) to go to jail.
Kierthos
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
There is a need for a database that collects information on various scam artists and fraudsters. And I don't mean just the 419 scam. eBay frauds, PayPal schemers, auction sellers who want their money for cheap digital camera wired to Indonesia or Eastern Europe, etc.
The database needs to be open, i.e. anyone is allowed to submit information to it, but it also should allow anyone to provide detailed explanations in case of libeling, as this kind of database can certainly be misused and forged. I'd agree to even pay some nominal amount, let's say, $10 per year, to be able to do a search and find information on the guy I am planning to buy a $999 item from with eBay's help.
That is say, about 1 cent for each spam I've received :).
The victim's employer sounds like a good man...
...people "aren't worth less money, aren't worth less to the family and aren't worth less to society because they're older. Lives shouldn't be diminished by age or physical maladies."
"Jules Olsman, '78, a partner in the Farmington Hills, Michigan, firm of Olsman, Ganos & Mueller, has distinguished himself in nursing home litigation and long-term care issues. Trying cases that involve vulnerable adults, Olsman is proud that he and his colleagues have been able to raise the bar on how lawyers, judges and juries look at older plaintiffs.
Hope he recovers the money from the bank that was doing the money transfers...
"Olsman's lawyer, Mayer Morganroth of Southfield, said the forms the bank used to make the transfers clearly indicated that the manager should have called the law firm to verify the transfers. Olsman said his insurance won't cover the loss, but that he plans to make good on the losses: "Not one client of our law firm will be out one penny." He also said he plans to sue the bank. "
BTW, this is the Berkley in Michigan, not the Berkeley (with an extra 'e') in California. Despite beliefs there, UCBerkeley is not the center of the universe. Smile.
That was one of the best hmmm, maybe call it a re-scam. Great stuff.
While you're probably safe in front of you computer, you should probably not play games with them.
But don't bother forwarding the spam to the police. They've got tons of it, and they're not interested.
Employee of Inrupt, Project Release Manager and Community Manager for Solid
I just read the story "Ibrahim Musa" from Brad Christensen's gallery. It's really too bad I didn't hear about it earlier. I live in Belgium, so going to Amsterdam or staying in the lobby of the Meridien hotel with a hidden camera would have been dead funny. We could have extended the joke in Brussels or Amsterdam. They could have walked a bit, taken a cab, ...
Think also. If he's not a senator, just claiming to be one and running such a scam is enough to get the police involved. If he's really a senator, we could know who he really is and make some noise about it in the right places...
But a nude beach in Brussels is a bit hard to find. There is no beach, for a start.
I've been getting that same email.. the one where you give them your checking account number and you get to help them transfer lots of cash and make a bit for your self.
Of course, I know it was a scam the first time I saw it, and have seen it come and go over the last 8-10 years in different forms.
So one day I decided to start fowarding these to the FBI. Afterall, they had a return e-mail, a phone and a fax number.
I'm not going to fall for it, but my guess is people do, so the FBI should start looking into it.
But it doesn't seem as if they have. What, some lady falls for it and looses over $2 million of her companies cash, and the FBI says 'oh wow, well that's a big deal I guess'.
Um, that's just terribly disapointing. How hard would it be to set up a dummy account, work in colaberation with Interpool (or whatever international police agency would have authority), and throw these fuckers in jail? Why does it take one niave person to waste millions of her companies assets before it becomes an issue?
Man, I love my country, but gosh, I wish our law enforcement was a little more proactive.
The Internet is generally stupid
Who said anything about physically harming someone in order to go to prison? If you steal a car you go to jail. If you set a house on fire you go to jail. If you commit fraud and cause a multi-billion dollar company to go belly up, you (should) go to jail. etc etc etc...
www.avacal.com -- the home page of pete shaw
Regarding the email address being posted on slashdot, I use a special account for my slashdot mail which is never given out for any reason. The only things I ever get at this email address is a monster.com ripoff for the 'data community.'
/. address. And I've been lurking here for quite some time. I don't, however, post that often.
After several unsubscribe attempts I not so politely told them how and where they got my email address. I haven't heard from them since.
I have received some of these 419 offers, but never at my
-= Why can't I add 'Anonymous Coward' to my list of Foes? =-
The only scam here is this woman is going to get out of jail in three years with 2.1 mil sitting in some offshore account.
There is no Nigerian involved. It was all about her wanting to retire early with a lot of money.
It would take a community effort, or perhaps a bot, but if enough of the scammers were inundated with seemingly interested replies, say a few thousand, they would have to give up. There may be a legitimate chump buried in all that guff, but how would they ever find them?
Dear Friend
I am writing to you in the hope you can offer me some assistance.
An accounting scam netted me the sum of 2,000,000 (two million) USD dollars which are presently deposited in a Swiss bank account.
Unfortunately due to my felony conviction for the previously mentioned scam, I am unable to retrieve the money. It is for this reason that I seek your help.
Please reply to this post with your slashdot user ID and password and I'll cut you in for a reasonable percentage, say 10%. What the hell, make it 20%. 30% and that's my final offer.
> Look at those last two paragraphs - I get more Nigerian scam than
> I get actual spam anymore. I probably get between 10-12 of the
> Nigerian emails *a day*.
Dude, if 10-12 a day is 50%... what you're saying is, you don't
get enough spam to even be discussing the issue.
Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
I got snailmail letters with essentially the same scam from Nigeria 20 years ago. For some reason the scammers would use lists of professional societies. I find it difficul to believe people would fall for one of the oldest and most transparent scams, but it soes happen now and then. Sixty Minutes interviewed some people who actually fell for it.
No, the post said "dumass" which is not a word. Neither is "dumbass". It's spelled "dumb-ass".
Look it up.
The irony of having a reasonable post being violently criticized for a typo with a reply full of spelling mistakes seems to be lost on you.
Using AIDS in a put-down is so 1983, dude.
-- clvrmnky
You should forward all "nigerian scam" emails to wafl@phonebusters.com
This rather unintuitive email address stands for "West African Fraud Letters". PhoneBusters.com is a joint effort between various Canadian policing organizations. And sometimes they catch people, which is nice.
About a year or so ago I got a snail mail version of this scam - yes, a physical letter in my mail box.
But that was before I ever saw it in email - so I didnt think twice aboutthrowing the thing away...
Has anyone else received the nigerian fortune letter in your meatspace inbox?
Due to the Joint Operating Agreement signed a decade ago, both the Detroit News and the Free Press publish their Sunday editions together. It's called, yes, the Detroit News-Free Press. Which is how most of us think about both papers anyhow.
"Hardly used" will not fetch you a better price for your brain.
Too bad my window of opportunity has come and gone. Dilbert was making fun of this a few months back...here.
Satanists get good grades too...suspiciously good grades
A sad spectacle. If they be inhabited, what a scope for misery and folly.
If they be not inhabited, what a waste of space.
-- Thomas Carlyle, looking at the stars
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