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Anti-Piracy Labeling Bill in Works
Rinisari writes "Just posted on news.com.com is an article with more on the bill that could make all digital consumer products be required to be labeled with information regarding any anti-piracy technology within the device. Senator Ron Wyden, D-OR, will be the primary sponser of the bill (he's also got a text-only site)."
Always the loudest to shout that the Republicans are taking away freedoms when they themselves are the ones doing it.
You'd think that a party based on Liberalism would support freedom.
I have been pwned because my
This is an FP
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it says he is "close" to releasing a bill that "might" require labeling.
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Wow, to think Tipper Gore has something in common with most /.ers.
http://yetanotherpoliticalrant.blogspot.com
For a second, I thought they meant "pro-piracy". I was wondering if this would require Adaptec to start shipping copies of EZ CD Creator Pro letting consumers know that "WARNING, THIS APPLICATION CAN LET YOU COPY YOUR ELITE H4CKED COPY OF MSWORD ONTO CD-R'S! PURCHASE AT YOUR OWN RISK!"
On the face of things, this sounds like a good step. Companies are certainly free to incorporate DRM or other anti-piracy features, but consumers should be equiped with all the information they need to make a sound choice. That will make it easier for people to vote with their wallets.
Unfortunately, it probably won't stop most of the unwashed masses from buying the latest [fill in the name of the flavor du 'jour] CD.
It's about time somebody stepped up to the plate. This kind of legislation is necessary if we are to even maintain the concept of consumer rights. How can a consumer make a decision on what to buy if it isn't labelled sufficiently?
Good luck on this bill!
At first I thought this was a terrific idea. But you know that the majority of buyers are people who don't understand what the consequences are.
And further, as the technology becomes more and more popular, eventually, won't EVERY product have one of these labels on it?
Although this act seems like it could be a step in the right direction, I think it should be cut down before it wastes (American) tax-payers dollars.
WTF.
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Maybe i am retarted, but why is news.com now news.com.com ?
Now i get the news.com.com.com.com.com.. joke in an earlier article a few days ago.
That is wierd
D.
You can tell how powerful someone is by the magnitude of the crime they can commit and be able to get away with.
Lets give his site hell! Bring it down my fellow /.'ers!
"Some fight for law. Some fight for justice. What will you fight for? One day, you will see."
No longer will I waste money on games that I can't blindread into Daemon's tools so I can toss the CD...
I hate ever so much switching CDs.
It will also help sell "forward thinking artists" and labels who don't have the label.
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
This can be taken pretty far:
"This item cannot be used as a shoe, pair of pants, or candy. If used as any of those devices, Sony is relieved of all responsibilities. This item's only function is as a beer mug."
--sex
Very popular slashdot journal for adul
See, this kind of thing I think is a lot more benificial then some of the rabit anti-anti-copy thought that has been growing recently. Manufacturers should be allowed to so whatever they want with their product, and on the other side consumers should know what they are getting. No need to start spewing that DRM is evil, just allow everyone the information they need to make a good decision.
Yes, I am aware of the irony of using that case for DRM, for the information people may need to use for good judgement can be hidden using DRM. I believe it is a weak arguement though.
Now, when I buy a CD, I expect to be able to use it in my PC and copy the music to my Sony walkman using the program that came with it. If I am in the store and I can't see if I am able to do that, I won't buy it in fear of wasting my money.
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This is, IMHO, a pretty nice little bone to throw us geeks. Now we can know even more certainly what we have to circumvent in order to continue on in our fair-use of things we buy. However, it also seems to me that this is a rather toothless movement and is almost a 'bone' thrown to people on both sides of the debate regarding piracy.
Posting as directed.
Opponents of Hollywood's drive to strengthen copyright law are mounting a new strategy: Require anything that has antipiracy technology built in to be clearly labeled and let consumers decide at the cash register.
So, they aren't trying to pass a law to require digital copyright protection on devices, they are trying to legislate disclosure of "anti-piracy" technology that might otherwise silently sit on that new CD player you are ready to buy from Circuit City.
Why are we bitching at the Democrats? Oh, because it was on slashdot and the genius editor posted it "from the compromising-freedom dept", so we don't have to actually read the the article before kicking into full knee-jerk mode.
"I want people to walk into every store in America and see that the product they're about to buy has restrictions," Wyden said. "Let's take this to the marketplace."
Uh, that's what we want, isn't it? (well, short of making the whole copyright BS go away, I mean).
There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.
the more bandwidth hungry of you, here's the link of the Senator's site w/ pictures.
Because two .coms are better than one.
Sometimes I like to walk around in just my skips.
Even though Sony explains clearly in little print on the back of the Memory Stick packaging that Magic Gate is a DRM technology, it doesn't stop people from thinking that it's something new and cool. They look at the label and figure it must be better than normal non-Magic Gate Memory Sticks.
Labels like these are not the solution and only restrict manufacturer's rights and put a crimp on their profits for no reason whatsoever. Of course, Wyden is from Oregon and may have a small stake in the paper manufacturing increase that will necessarily occur if such a bill is passed.
I have been pwned because my
Let's hope that the Hollings bill doesn't also pass, because then you might as well slap the same generic label on every single digital device out there, just like danger tags on everything -- "Misuse of this kleenex could cause personal injury." You know what I mean.
But, simply by putting a label on the product that says "Restricts blah blah" people who wouldn't have had a clue will now at least have heard of copyright protection and digital restrictions. The more it's talked about, the more people will be judicious with their purchases, and hopefully we can see a happy medium balance itself out.
Sure, Mom and Pop won't know what the hell that tag means, but when us college students figure realize "hey, I can't download my music anymore?! WTF!!" sales of young-person-targeted devices (PDAs, MP3 players, sleek laptops, etc.) will drop if the restrictions are too high.
Now, if only we can get this through, fix the DMCA, and repeal the PATRIOT act...
should have RTFA more closely. How redundant of me.
Increasingly I find commercial applications are using public domain source in their products. Since the original licensing of source says free, can we not argure that such products can be ripped off? Commercial cost is often the culpret and not just the victim in this new digital environment, any laws should also accomodate freedom of digital rights and not just who contributes to special funds.
Next time I find Linux, Apache or Squid in a commercial product I think I might just point out the fact to the vendor.
No, just the opposite: a liberal wants equal rights. The only way to have equality is to strip EVERYONE of their freedoms and be under government control and government dependency - that way we are MADE/FORCED equal.
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
But you know that the majority of buyers are people who don't understand what the consequences are.
And part of that is because nobody TOLD them there are consequences.
But as soon as warning labels start showing up, some of 'em will start to wonder what they're being warned about
So some will ask, or look around on the net, and maybe find out. Then they'll be able to make an informed decision about whether it matters to them enough to affect their purchase decision.
And others will just avoid products with the warning label in favor of those without - which will create pressure on the providers to stop using technologies which require a warning label. B-)
Don't underestimate joe sixpack. Just because he isn't an expert on the things YOU'RE expert on doesn't mean he's dumb or lazy. He may be quite the genius, and just focussed on other interests.
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Anti-Fair Use?
..There's a-dooin's a-transpirin'
If something is clearly labeled as having DRM, and we can expect that most if not all major device manufacturers will be putting some sort of DRM in their machines, then any circumvention of that DRM limitation is a flagrant violation of the DMCA.
To quote Ackbar, "It's a trap!"
I have been pwned because my
Well i am going to Harvard Model Congress tomorrow as Sen. Larry Craig, and I will kick the guy who is Sen. Ron Wyden's ass.
When do you think God will come back with the barbeque sauce?
A review of Sen. Wyden's site does not reveal any draft of the bill in question. However, based on comments in the article, it sounds like a good idea.
This is the same Sen. Wyden who has sponsored a Senate resolution on consumer's rights to use digital content. A link to the PDF here.
The advantage of mandatory labelling for consumer devices that have anti-copy technology installed is that the consumer can know, at a glance, whether the device in question will allow him or her to make fair use of digital content he or she has purchased.
Obviously, the Hollywood crowd would prefer such a bill never see the light of day, since it would make devices with anti-copying technology potentially very unpopular. I can imagine that Sony wouldn't be thrilled.
At the same time, I can foresee that this is the kind of domestic issue that could easily get buried under the current foreign policy and economic crises.
Makes me proud to be an Oregonian. It's about time we the consumer started getting some support from congress. At the very least, it'll increase awareness of the situation at hand further than your average geek and poor college student.
One more vote Mr. Wyden will be getting come next election.
Yeah, that really makes sense. The damn libs want to strip us of our freedoms!@#! Of course, it's Ron Wyden who is sponsoring a bill that will force the government to explain Total Information Awareness, as well as where money appropriated to it goes.
concrete5: a cms made for marketing, but strong enough for geeks.
Senator Ron Wyden, D-OR sounds more like a Communist with all of his piling on and crawling up the bum of the merchant with is foofy regulations.
Are the "D" blokes part of the Greens/Labor or are thay part of the Workers World Party?
Eve Fairbanks says I drive a hybrid!LOL
Well i am going to Harvard Model Congress tomorrow as Sen. Larry Craig, and I will kick the guy who is Ron Wyden's ass.
When do you think God will come back with the barbeque sauce?
At least we can play with our toys until doomsday =P
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lot of good that one does. what if this one isn't different?
Just raise the taxes on crack.
During my unemployment tour "02-03", I've watched Wyden fight for some good causes on CSPAN. He is the guy who pushed for more oversight in the Office of Total Information Awareness program. He also has exposed the anti-consumer tactics of the oil industry. Why aren't there more like him around?
no alarms and no surprises, please.
that's amazing & good .. but the layout could use some serious improvement so it looks decent on lynx /.. actually it doesnt look that greeat on any browser.
Parental Guidance
Explicit Copyprotection
Or is that really the issue? Is it really restricting creative potential? Name one artist who won't release, for example, a CD because they think they won't make money because of file sharing. Not that I'm for illegal downloading, but honestly.
Wouldn't you agree that most mainstream "artist" are more profit driven than driven by creativity?
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the urgent need to abolish DRM and copy protection . (Don't get me wrong, I would prefer lack of copyright and copyprotection, I'm trying out for Fox News with all this wild speculation)
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wow that's cool. i wasn't aware they were coming out with a new album. it's a shame it's copy protected, i wont be able to use it since i dont own a normal cd player.
-- john
'You'd think that the mouth-pieces for the anti-copyprotection front were storing their original DVDs and CDs in a rock sander for the urgency with which they call for the abolishment of copy-protection and DRM.'
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Any smoking guns here?
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Contributor said he's pretty sure there are some lines missing, and doesn't really remember it being so healthcare-orientated, but that's the way his brain decided to spew it out when he started typing!! He also remembers it being more risque but at age 10, even saying 'flies' out loud was probably risque back then. c.f. Arsehole song (and others) circa. 1980's UK
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Fatty and Skinny went to the Zoo
Fatty got lost in the Elephants poo
Skinny went home to tell his mum
But all he got was a smack on the bum,
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This technology should never be called anti-piracy technology; it's very strange to see Slashdot use such a deceptive term. This is anti-copy technology. It prevents fair use as well as piracy. It prevents users from doing things with the music they buy that the Supreme Court has already declaired as totally legal. There is no technology that just prevents piracy but allows legitimate use by users, just the opposite, many of these technologies hardly slow pirates at all, but present serious problems for legitimate users.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Using the language of the enemy means we've bought into their argument. Anyone with a positive bank account is against piracy, so let's please try to use language that best expresses our reasoned opinions.
-dameron
We want to know the ingredients of what we buy. If something has 5 grams of phenylalanine added, I want to know about it. This is exactly the same issue...
This bill is all nice and fluffy, but it will be completely meaningless if UCITA ever passes. Let's get our congresspeople working on nipping UCITA in the bud before they start dreaming up other, less meaningful solutions to consumer-rights issues.
Stupid people make stupid things profitable.
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It is posted at http://www.ieeeusa.org/forum/POSITIONS/copycontrol systems.html
It providea a list of characteristics any proper copy control system should have, such as with respect to fair use, non-interference with normal operations, and other issues. It concludes that no technology that has been proposed to date can satisfy the characteristics.
I sent my support along even though I don't live in Oregon, but I'm left wondering what this "Senate e-mail system" is and why it restricts him from replying to any out-of-state emails. It's perfectly understandable (and admirable) that he puts his constituents first, but is he forbidden to correspond with citizens that he doesn't directly represent?
--K.
Sig: Bad people happen. Try to avoid being one of them.
It certainly is in Australia and I think Canada too. There's quite a bit of discussion about it on the Massive Attack forums. Quite a few unhappy people. Me included.
Boffoonery - downloadable Comedy Benefit for Bletchley Park
Hi!
I'm new to Slashdot. It looks like a really great place for conversation and discussion. I have a few questions to ask about Slashdot that weren't covered in the FAQ. I hope someone is kind enough to answer:
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3) One night I ran out of Mountain Dew and I collapsed on top of my keyboard. When I woke a few days later, ants were crawling all over me and eating the Doritos crumbs from my crotch. They are still there. What do I do?
4) My "Got Root?" shirt is turning yellow. It's a nice color, but where can I get nice, white one?
Thanks everyone in advance for answering!! I look forward to hearing from you!!!
Toodles,
Peter
Just a thought.
Like a label is going to change anything! I mean cigarettes have had "Surgeon General" labels on them for decades and IDIOTS still sue the tobacco industry because they "got cancer after the smoked for their lifetime". You put a label on the CD and in 10 years I'll sue the RIAA because I am addicted to Music & can't stop, "I am broke because I have to buy CDs, I can't help it they are addictive".
Gato
Since people making buying decisions based on the artist/content of the CD, I don't see where this will have any significant impact. It's not like you'll find protected & non-protected versions of the same CD out there...
Stop by my site where I write about ERP systems & more
If the DMCA is going to be validated anyway then it should be amended to it since they are so closely related.
[snip]Don't underestimate joe sixpack. Just because he isn't an expert on the things YOU'RE expert on doesn't mean he's dumb or lazy. He may be quite the genius, and just focussed on other interests.[/snip]
[spit take]
say what? am I still reading Slashdot? what kind of comment is this? not a flamer, not a troll... some sort of new entity never before seen.
I think I need to lie down.
sweatyb
It breaks my pluginses, my precious!
I say bring it on. Anti-piracy measures just mean more things to me to crack, and I love cracking.
Maybe the first time. But if the labels are consistent, maybe after someone gets burned once, they will avoid the media that has the warning. Fool me twice, shame on me. Shame there are so many fools in the world. ;-)
No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style.
This topic(and related topics) keeps coming up. And I have to wonder...
Why is it OK for the music industry to take the lyrics from songs of which the copyright has expired, repackage that song into some CRAP(you've heard the songs..."Hey this is my favorite song...but, wait who the F*** is this!"), basically RIPPING a song into another FORMAT, then turn around and try to tell consumers, NO YOU CAN'T MAKE OGG OR MP3s out the songs that you BOUGHT even if it's for your own use. They sure haven't BOUGHT lyrics from songs where the copyright has expired!
hmmm...
great idea, I'm sure the RIAA will try to stop it. After all, isn't it more fun to villify and anger your customers than it is to educate them?
Now they won't be able to screw you over by selling unreturnable products that are defective in the sense that the customer doesn't know ahead of time that he won't be able to play them on his computer, car stereo, or whatnot. I'm suprised someone hasn't already sued the pants off of the recording industry for that bullshit.
Repeal the DMCA!
I wish that were true, but not a lot of Democrats support the 2nd Amendment. Many Democrats are as rabid on the War of Drugs as any Republican, and the WoD is probably the greatest threat to the Constitution in the last 100 years or so. It's completely destroyed the 4th Amendment, and it's making inroads on several other important elements of the Bill of Rights.
The sad fact is that neither the Republicans or the Democrats have any great respect for the Constitution. Both parties seem to view the Constitution as an inconvenient obstacle to whatever goofy social agenda their constituents like at the moment.
Truth-in-labelling is really a libertarian idea. In other words, buy copy-protected music if you like, but you should at least be allowed to know what you're buying. No force, no fraud, the holy duality.
(Disclaimer) I'm not a doctrinaire libertarian-- for example, I don't think we should sell the National Parks to Disney. But the major parties need to start being just a little more concerned with liberty, or pretty soon there won't be any left.
Is that the best troll you can do? You, sir, really suck at trolling.
It is garbage, originally derived from an ancient latin text, but now generated by clever programs to approximate the look and feel of english text for formatters and page rendering. The idea is that you can't actually read it, so your monkey-mind won't get sucked into the content when you are supposed to be meditating on the layout/rendering.
A more authoritative (seeming) answer for the bayesian filter people.
--- Nothing clever here: move along now...
Don't underestimate joe sixpack. [...]
say what? am I still reading Slashdot? what kind of comment is this? not a flamer, not a troll... some sort of new entity never before seen.
Naw. Just a midwestern redneck with "Karma Excellent". B-)
If you're interested you can read some of my other posts
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Smoking Cigarettes Can Be Hazardous To Your Health.
lot of good that one does. what if this one isn't different?
What the warning really needs to say is:
SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Smoking Cigarettes Causes Impotence
I'm sure a lot more guys would pay attention.
Welcome to news.com.com
"It's dot com.com"
Offtopic but...
/. readers using Linux:
I found this and I thought I would share with
1000 TrueType Fonts for Linux users
Putting anti-piracy labels on media would probably scare some people away from copying the stuff. And that, of course, is the whole purpose of law in the first place: stopping people from breaking it (pirating stuff in this case). The purpose isn't to catch as many people as possible.
If that were so, the keeping the laws a secret would do a grand job of filling the jails. So, by putting these labels on, it would do a good thing by preventing piracy without using force.
Rillopy
Alright, this is very off-topic, but I'm just curious. Was there some kind of big hoopla about cnet having com.com that I missed or something. I hadn't noticed it before, but it seems like all the references people are using to news.com and download.com are now *.com.com.
They should be referred to as "anti-backup" or "anti-fair-use" labels.
I have refrained from getting anything related to DVD technology up to this point simply because of CSS and the DMCA. If DVD manufacturers where required to label their broken DVDs then I would consider looking into it ... DVD is a great technology, but it is brought down by some pretty haneous shit.
NR
"Never in our history have fewer been in a position to control more of the creative potential of our society than now," Lessig said. "We have to buy them off, so they don't break the Internet in the interim."
Because the first statement is true, the plan will fail. Every major record label, and there are only five in the world, is putting in Digital Rights Denial. If you want to sell a non-major record in your store, the majors cut you off. So, what choice do you have? You look left, DRM, you look right, DRM. Now that internet radio has been shut down, Napster is dead, and the FBI will soon visit you for running P2P, you won't hear of anything but crappy major music. Not even the mighty Google can lead you to reasonable music can it? No, these lables will only dull you to the rights you have lost, make your kids think that it's right and waste time and money in general. The lables are going to be used for propaganda purposes. I can just imagine one now, "Copy Controled to feed our starving artist's hungry babies - Sharing is Stealing!". Every artists out there is going to love it when their five cent cut per sold CD is reduced to two cents to cover the cost of applying the lables.
You can't buy these bastards off, you can only avoid them. Buy used recodings, support local acts and turn the radio off. Oh yeah, that's what people have already started doing.
The internet has been broken already too. That's why "so few" people have so much control and I can't serve out of my house over the public network that being used by the local cable company. After all, if everyone could sever, word of mouth and Google would work for everyone including the artists who mostly would earn more money than they do now.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
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My sampler's got an analog input. I can't see this being a problem.
Buckets,
pompomtom
"There's an exception to every rule. Except for some rules"
Another sticker on the iPod box: "This box has a sticker on it warning you not to steal music"
Go out and get sailing!
to buy votes and influence the way the rest of the vote buying scum *cough*bush*cough* do.
Lawyers, MBA's, RIAA? A jedi fears not these things!
on osX hints today I saw that if you start your ripping after 10 seconds give or take into the first track on this Massive Attack you can rip the cd...check it out
thx
Not to mention destroying the 10th amendment....but that was long ago.
SB
It's old. The more humans I meet, the more I like my cats. At least they are honest.
I don't buy music. I turn on the radio. So there.
For those that are going to use my journal:
--gal
Very popular slashdot journal for adul
The size alone of the NW-MS11 was enough to sway me. I was willing to trade some of the minor inconveniences you mention for that level of portability.
Boffoonery - downloadable Comedy Benefit for Bletchley Park
If people hate copy-crippled CDs, let them vote with their dollars. I'm sure someone else will be more than happy to press regular old CDs. If artists feel the heat from pissed off consumers, they'll start signing onto labels that that don't shit on the customers.
We don't need anymore Naders trying to dictate every aspect of our lives. This ain't the fuckin' EU.
towards a world of independent consultant musicians, and businesses that cater to them. I wonder how many A&R guys have already made the jump?
But certainly not always
Boffoonery - downloadable Comedy Benefit for Bletchley Park
And a good thing too, since the graphical version should be considered broken since it uses absolute pixel counts rather than percentages when defining table widths.
:-)
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Thus proving a point: lameness filters are much, much lamer than the "crap" they try and prevent.
And anyone who doesn't know what lipsum is by now is not very smart. The above poster is just giving lip service to this.
Aphor, you are a very lascivious person.
My goal for this letter is to examine the social and cultural conditions that dominate or intimidate others. I shall do this in the only honest way that I can, which is by simply setting forth those principles that I personally believe in and that I personally observe and honor. And that's why I feel compelled to say something about self-absorbed doofuses. If the past is any indication of the future, Aphor will once again attempt to grant a free ride to the undeserving. In case you hadn't noticed, if his apple-polishers are frightened that he might implement a raving parody of justice called "Aphor-ism" within a short period of time, they have only themselves to blame. So what's the connection between that and Aphor's bait-and-switch tactics? The connection is that to get even the simplest message into the consciousness of sniffish bimbos, it has to be repeated at least 50 times. Now, I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you the following 50 times, but I recently informed him that his deputies use lethal violence as a source of humor. Aphor said he'd "look further into the matter." Well, not too much further; after all, Aphor has -- not once, but several times -- been able to teach the next generation how to hate -- and whom to hate -- without anyone stopping him. How long can that go on? As long as his hectoring bons mots are kept on life support. That's why we have to pull the plug on them and discuss the programmatic foundations of his uncouth actions in detail. We must combat the ribald ideology of revisionism that has infected the minds of so many unrestrained, vicious stool pigeons in such as way that there is nothing Aphor can do about it except learn to live with the fait accompli. I myself challenge him to move from his broad derogatory generalizations to specific instances to prove otherwise.
I plan to work within the system to persuade my fellow citizens that until we oppose our human vices wherever they may be found -- arrogance, hatred, jealousy, unfaithfulness, avarice, and so on -- he will continue to nourish officious, power-hungry ideologies, not because I lack the courage for more drastic steps, but because his claim that those of us who oppose him would rather run than fight is not only an attack on the concept of objectivity, but an assault on the human mind. The real question here is not, "Why does Aphor want to force us to experience the full spectrum of the Aphor Rainbow of Larrikinism?". The real question is rather, "What is it about our society that makes insufferable sewer rats like Aphor desire to make his ventures a key dynamic in modern absolutism by viscerally defining "magnetohydrodynamics" through the experience of vulgar diabolism?" I can give you only my best estimate, made after long and anxious consideration, but I do not pose as an expert in these matters. I can say only that he talks a lot about alarmism and how wonderful it is. However, he's never actually defined what it means. How can Aphor argue for something he's never defined? Aphor doesn't want you to know the answer to that question; he wants to ensure you don't reinforce notions of positive self esteem. As I gaze into my crystal ball, I see that his compeers will level filth and slime at everyone opposed to his publicity stunts in a lustrum or two. Aphor managed to convince a bunch of incoherent, grotesque swindlers to help him take advantage of human fallibility to paint people of different races and cultures as uninformed alien forces undermining the coherent national will. What was the quid pro quo there? While I don't know the answer to that particular question, I do know that if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem.
The truth hurts, doesn't it, Aphor? He has been trying for some time to convince people that society is screaming for his complaints. Don't believe his hype! Aphor has just been offering that line as a means to infiltrate and then dominate and control the mass media. We must reach out to people with the message that his satraps employ carefully developed psychological techniques to hammer away at the characters of all those who will not help him transform our whole society to suit his own repressive interests. We must alert people of that. We must educate them. We must inspire them. And we must encourage them to derail Aphor's gruesome little schemes.
Aphor's shell games occasionally differ in terms of how lousy can they are, but generally share one fundamental tendency: They work both sides of the political fence. While I claim that Aphor has every right to his irritating opinions, I know that he throws a tantrum every time he doesn't get what he wants. You know that. But does he know we know that? You see, if you don't think that there is little doubt that faced by such despicable perfidy and the frustration of not being able to respond to the same audiences as he has had, I, hardheaded cynic that I am, must indisputably avoid the extremes of a pessimistic naturalism and an optimistic humanism by combining the truths of both, then you've missed the whole point of this letter. He wants us to feel sorry for the callow big-mouths who harvest what others have sown. I feel we should instead feel sorry for their victims, all of whom know full well that Aphor keeps trying to make recidivism socially acceptable. And if we don't remain eternally vigilant, he will surely succeed. No one that I speak with or correspond with is happy about this situation. Of course, I don't speak or correspond with feral ideologues, Aphor's lieutenants, or anyone else who fails to realize that Aphor maintains that he is beyond reproach. This is hardly the case. Rather, there is growing evidence that says, to the contrary, that I cannot promise not to be angry at him. I do promise, however, to try to keep my anger under control, to keep it from leading me -- as it leads Aphor -- to create an untrue and injurious impression of an entire people. Aphor's methods are much subtler now than ever before. Aphor is more adept at hidden mind control and his techniques of social brainwash are much more appealingly streamlined and homogenized.
If we take his assertions to their logical conclusion, we see that by next weekend, he will deliver an additional blow to dignity and self-worth. Aphor's harangues are like an enormous anti-intellectualism-spewing machine. We must begin dismantling that structure. We must put a monkey wrench in its gears. And we must bear witness to the plain, unvarnished truth, because Aphor can fool some of the people all of the time. He can fool all of the people some of the time. But he can't fool all of the people all of the time. His argument is invalid. This is not rhetoric. This is reality.
I have the strength, ability, desire, and courage to solve the problems that are important to most people. Do you? I recently read a book confirming what I've been saying for years, that Aphor should learn to appreciate what he has instead of feeling so oppressed because he can't do everything he wants, every time he wants to. You know what I mean? Although I consistently end his control over the minds and souls of countless people, I do not countenance challenging Aphor through breaking the law -- to do so is unregenerate, myopic, and indefensible. Although he has never read carefully anything I've written, if you read his writings while mentally out of focus, you may get the sense that his opinions represent the opinions of the majority -- or even a plurality. But if you read Aphor's writings while mentally in focus and weigh each point carefully, it's clear that I sincerely dislike him. Likes or dislikes, however, are irrelevant to observed facts, such as that Aphor is just one in a long line of clumsy lunkheads who like to calumniate helpless so-called experts. That's self-evident, and even Aphor would probably agree with me on that. Even so, it takes more than a mass of superstitious Aphor clones to weaken the critical links in his nexus of contemptible pauperism. It takes a great many thoughtful and semi-thoughtful people who are willing to establish clear, justifiable definitions of clericalism and deconstructionism, so that you can defend a decision to take action when his cat's-paws identify political and religious groups that are his political enemies and re-label them as "sex-crazed opportunists" in order to justify operations against them.
Prurient trolls may endanger our property or our security or our economic well-being, but Aphor endangers our souls. Let his nugatory jokes stand as evidence that inasmuch as I disagree with his accusations and find his ad hominem attacks offensive, I am happy to meet his speech with more speech and, if necessary, continue this discussion until the truth shines. His flimflams all stem from one, simple, faulty premise -- that it is his moral imperative to organize a whispering campaign against me. More prosaically, I like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: Aphor has been known to say that individual worth is defined by race, ethnicity, religion, or national origin. That notion is so laughable, I hardly know where to begin refuting it. Sometimes it seems phlegmatic mystics are like a farmer who, in the spring, would work the ground, plant seeds, fertilize, and cultivate the ground for a period of time. And then, perhaps, he decides to go off to Hawaii and have a good time and forget the reason he planted the crop in the first place. Well, a farmer wouldn't do that. But Aphor would dismantle national civil rights organizations by driving a wedge between the leaders and the rank-and-file members if he got the chance.
If one dares to criticize even a single tenet of his attitudes, one is promptly condemned as materialistic, violent, ghastly, or whatever epithet he deems most appropriate, usually without much explanation. While there is no evidence that his mottos reflect an era in which cultures or attitudes different from one's own were dealt with through violence and mistrust, it is clear that I welcome his comments. However, he needs to realize that I cannot believe how many actual, physical, breathing, thinking people have fallen for his subterfuge. I'm totally stunned. I'll try not to dwell on this, but I correctly predicted that Aphor would strap us down with a network of rules and regulations. Alas, I didn't think he'd do that so effectively -- or so soon. As will become apparent in the blink of an eye, he is not a responsible citizen. Responsible citizens present a clear picture of what is happening, what has happened, and what is likely to happen in the future. Responsible citizens really do not ignore compromise and focus solely on his personal agenda.
It is important to realize that I indeed cannot believe that Aphor would consider sleazy know-nothings as apolaustic gits, and that's one reason why I'm writing this letter. Aphor, get a life! Be honest; can you in any way believe his claim that people don't mind having their communities turned into war zones? I cannot, mainly because he is the picture of the insane person on the street, babbling to a tree, a wall, or a cloud, which cannot and does not respond to his communications. This is not the same as saying that I, for one, am flat-out tired of his psychological bullying, although that, too, is true.
Aphor claims that he is a bearer and agent of the Creator's purpose. That claim illustrates a serious reasoning fallacy, one that is pandemic in his memoranda. Then again, I'm sure Aphor wouldn't want me to eavesdrop on his conversations. So why does he want to meddle in everyone else's affairs? This can be answered most easily by stating that I, for one, feel that he has insulted everyone with even the slightest moral commitment. Aphor obviously has none, or he wouldn't attack the critical realism and impassive objectivity that are the central epistemological foundations of the scientific worldview. You may make the comment, "What does this have to do with treacherous nutters (also known as Aphor's backers, who are legion)?" Well, once you begin to see the light, you'll realize that Aphor pompously claims that all it takes to solve our social woes are shotgun marriages, heavy-handed divorce laws, and a return to some mythical 1950s Shangri-la. That sort of nonsense impresses many people, unfortunately. He has made some very dangerous assumptions about dim-witted jealous-types. That shouldn't surprise you when you consider that he has, at times, called me "blasphemous" or "improvident". Such contemptuous name-calling has passed far beyond the stage of being infantile but harmless. It has the capacity to use cheap, intemperate propaganda to arouse the passions of what I call disrespectful knee-biters. As I've said before, if I want to get fired from my job, that should be my prerogative. I don't need Aphor forcing me to. Although chimpanzees can be convinced to wear clothing, understand commands, and even ride bicycles (if well paid for their services in bananas), it would be virtually impossible to convince Aphor that he and his underlings are, by nature, inimical monomaniacs. Not only can that nature not be changed by window-dressing or persiflage, but Aphor wants all of us to believe that human life is expendable. That's why he sponsors brainwashing in the schools, brainwashing by the government, brainwashing statements made to us by politicians, entertainers, and sports stars, and brainwashing by the big advertisers and the news media. The only way out of Aphor's rat maze is to step back and consider the problem of his ethics in the larger picture of popular culture imagery. It's that simple.
Well, it's one thing to be against a law or a practice, and it's another to pass legislation concerning it. America already has WAY too much legislation for it's own good. About everything.
Most laws, like this one, restrict freedom by requiring an entity either to do something (like file taxes or put labels on products), or not do something (murder, rape, pillage, etc). Many of these laws are good and neccessary, specifically the ones that are against one person directly harming another, or limiting their freedom. I'm glad murder is illegal.
But forcing people to put labels on things for this reason is going too far. It doesn't matter whether it's for explicit lyrics, or a particular copy-protection scheme, or whatever. Just because I personally think that "explicit lyrics" are okay and copy-protection schemes are bad doesn't make this law better than the other. They are both reducing freedoms further than neccessary, and the WRONG way to go about solving problems. Sure, it's the record companies' freedoms, not the consumers', but you can't have a double standard about these things, otherwise you look like a hypocrite.
This isn't nutritional information, it's not like people have allergies and could die if they don't have this information. This is like the helmet and seat-belt laws... Yes, it's a good idea to wear helmets and seat belts and not to smoke pot, but No the government shouldn't try to make everyone comply with their idea of good, especially since there's no clear way it hurts other people. You generally can return something if it's defective, or it offends you.
If you want to legislate something that will help, make a law that creates a allocates resources to increase awareness of these issues. Create a "COPY PROTECTION FREE" sticker that they can voluntairly put on their CDs, and an ad campaign that informs people about the crappiness of copy protection. These things are non-invasive, they don't force people to do or not to do anything, and they educate people, which is the RIGHT way to go about doing things. And this doesn't even require legislation, anyone could form an organization to do this.
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Run a pencil-and-paper RPG campaign with your far-off friends: Gametable!
Jefferson, in his writings attributes, the Bible, Machevelli, Benjamin Franklin, Magna carta, amongst others.
Liberalism is VERY close to Fascism. It is DEMOCRATS who are the main force behind the DMCA. MY STATE'S senator, Fritz Hollings (D) is the biggest sponsor of the Bill. If you can recall, he was also co author to video game violence legislation and TV ratings. How about not modding me down to flamebait without facts!
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
If I start seeing eminem CD's being labelled as dolphin-friendly and cans of tuna that I can't copy, I'll known there's a bug in the label making software.
Ergonomica Auctorita Illico!
fuck the fucking motherfucker demo-fucking-crats. Stupid fucking god-damn fucking lame-ass fucking piece of fucking shit socialist fucking assholes can bite my fucking ass and eat what-fucking-ever comes out, you fucking asshole fuckers.
Looks like a Senate version of the "Digital Millenium Consumer Rights Act", a bill being worked on in the house. The EFF was/is seeking support for the DMCRA, check EFF.org for an Action Alert on the topic.
I don't think the issue is anti-piracy technology. I think the issue is technology that indiscriminately prevents *use*. Such measures promote unauthorised copying, because the best way to get corrupt cds to function is to make a(n analog, if necessary) copy of them and use that on your computer or portable mp3/ogg player.
Why not buy said CD, return to store saying it will not work in your CD player, requesting that the store get you one without this technology. Once the stores have enough people returning these CDs to them they will start complaining to their suppliers as it will start to cost them more cash to process all of these. I hope they do start marking the CDs up this way so we can all buy and return their dodgy CDs on mass.
It's called, BUY SOFTWARE you cheap bastards!
Whores.
like having to pay for the bill.
I know you are psychotic, but please make an effort.
This is the war in a nutshell - (i.e. a civil-war) at Sony - and could be a signpost as to the outcome of the larger global war...
t ml
However, things may not look too good atm, but it seems things could get better...
Afterall, the electronics division of Sony makes far more money than the Music side...;-)
Read this...
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.02/sony.h
always pick the warning about pregnant women. They figure this makes it safe for them.
Now maybe we'll see the death of illegal file swapping and the subsequent software that permits it. Which means I'll stop seeing negative impacts on my production networks.
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Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
This reminds me of a longstanding FDA position that the labeling of GMO Free food is misleading if it implies that said food is superior to other foods that are genetically modified. This is not just an idle position, the FDA has acted several times to stop the voluntary labeling of non GMO foods.
I can see the RIAA and the MPAA taking a similar position. I know the FCC's mandate is less restrictive than the FDA's, but the argument could seem compelling in the face of millions of dollars of campaign contributions. Law-abiding citizens should have no reason to violate their shrinkwrap agreements, and the copy control mechanisms are only there to enforce those licences. It would mislead the law-abiding public, the argument would go, to mandate the labeling of protected content because good, modern copy controls are invisible to the end user and in no way degrade the experience. Besides, they would continue, nearly all content is GMO^H^H^H copy controlled one way or another, therefore fears of copy control schemes are unfounded.
Not that I agree with the above arguments, but I can definitely see a certain Harvard professor having those debates with a group of bloodsucking lawyers from LA.
The ______ Agenda
Exactly how does irradiated meat "affect" anybody? I mean, other than being safer than non-sterilized meat.
Generally, only negative aspects of a product need to be labeled, not positive ones. It's up to the manufacturer to advertise it's own positives.
[PowerPoint] is a tool for capitalist presentation
Warez is stealing. so is file-sharing.
To stop anti-piracy methods becoming more and more annoying and obtrusive their is a simple answer.
BUY MORE STUFF you cheap bastards!
"I want people to walk into every store in America and see that the product they're about to buy has restrictions," Wyden said. "Let's take this to the marketplace."
I went to go buy a DVD player a few months ago. I bought a pretty good one, brought it home, installed it and played it. It didn't work right. The screen was going from light to dark, from light to dark and over and over again. I found out after reading the manual it had copy protection built into the DVD and it was because I have a VCR hooked up in line to it somewhere. I took it back to get a different DVD player.
Every single DVD player had this protection. I had no choice to buy one that did not unless I wanted to forget about having a DVD player at all.
I ended up sometime later buying a switchbox that confuses the copy protection.
But the point is: It doesn't matter if labels like this are on consumer devices if every single one of them have the copy protection. We're going to buy one, and the industry/govt knows it.
I've been a Turbo Tax user for many years ... never used another product. This year I bought H&R Block's Tax Cut only because of the restrictions Intuit included with their product this year. I figure if all my software has special registration keys that I need to get from the manufacturer, if I ever have to replace a computer and reinstall all my software, it's going to be a night mare of customer service calls! Screw that.
As far as the compromising freedom thing and Democrats, I don't get it. Each party wants to compromise freedom, just in different ways. One party's motive is for selfish personal reasons; the other's is for the benefit of others. Makes you want to be a libertarian(!?!?)
Yeah, I know, it's not likely to happen.
Unfortunately, what *is* likely to happen is that non-crippled disks will increase in price while crippled disks remain the same. Now the price *appears* to be lower but nothing has really changed...the RIAA still gets the same amount of money out of you *and* the higher price on "open" CDs encourages you to suck it up and pay the fees for the crippled disk.
Pessimistic, I know...but still likely.
Oh, yeah, where he get's money is of
no interest. Score that one -1.
Don't even give a reason.
--Don't underestimate joe sixpack...
I think there are very few stupid individuals, HOWEVER, the second they make a decision as a group, most become complete ignoramuses. Look at our political parties. Look at our businesses. Look at the laws governing homeowners associations all over the country (Esp. Nevada). Look at the fact that some people actually think that the new airport security regulations are making anything safer than it was before.
The government knows how dumb people are as a group, or else they wouldn't throw placebos at us on a daily basis to make us "feel safe" and so on.
"Joe sixpack" may be a very intelligent person on his own, but in a group he has proven to be a complete idiot.
It's shocking, actually.
BTW - I think the legislation is a fine idea, just that your comment was silly as hell.
~D
Why do people from your obscure little cult insist upon trying to foist your perversions of the english language upon the rest of us more rational people?
I mean comeon, if you circumvent the "anti-piracy" disk, then surely you can sue the manufacturer for false and deceptive labeling!
What if I popped in some gas in my car only to find out later that it would not start (or worse was corroding or gumming my engine)? Would I really need a special law just to prevent that and force them to put a label saying in effect, "Even though this pump is right next to all the normal gas pumps, looks the same down to color coding, and even though we call this unleaded you are supposed to know the 25 digit code found in small writing under the dirty nozel that indicates this is in fact not intended for cars except the brand new "Gas DRM" models... sorry for the confusion, pull up to the next pump"
Remember that if the companies want to play ambigous games then consumers can simply show a little sack and quit purchasing from them. Stop running to big brother and show a little backbone. Stop being fucking monkeys and be human beings! WILLPOWER, USE IT
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I think the labeling is a bad idea because, in a way, it legitimizes what the RIAA is doing (effectively absolving fair-use rights). The perfect copy thing gets way too much press (if I re-EQ a CD to record, is it an exact copy? The code is different. Argue it either way.). What about copying a CD that is out of print? What about making a 32 bit re-master? Fair-use rights supercede the DCMA (grand-father clause). If the RIAA wants copyright protections, they can spend the funds to develop a system that does not interfere with fair-use rights. All this shouldn't be on anyone else's head. Or start suing them under lemon laws. Two can play this game. Vinyl is looking pretty tasty right now.
I have to admit, this is even better Lorem than the "son of Lorem."
Does anyone want to explain the theory behind how these generators work?
The aphorism: In a bad drought, texan ranchers will burn the needles off the cactus once the grass and other foliage has been razed by the starving cattle. The cactus provides no nutrition, but the cattle don't seem to suffer their empty stomachs. This keeps them from trying to emigrate in the mean time. It's interesting how a banal thing can be an instrument of slavery.
--- Nothing clever here: move along now...