miladus writes
"Roogle is a new RSS Search Engine. Let us
hope it does not get in trouble because of its name." Or its horrible logo. The site needs a little work, but it seems like a good enough idea.
update their obviously infringing logo was removed.
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I get a Javascript error as soon as I get there. Yeah, Roogle's going places.
"The site needs a little work, but it seems like a good enough idea." :
A good idea ? To rip off Google ? From the site
This page is not sponsored by Google, affiliated with Google and will probably get me in trouble.
Sorry, but just getting the Google logo and crudely crossing out the G to replace with an R is a bit lame. Not impressed. They have blatently copied the Google look and feel, something which is probably illegal, and certainly annoying.
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now, that's almost as funny as the google mirror: http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/
Hey! That's my sig you're smoking there!
What kind of sicko has been testing this engine?
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...but the name and logo absolutely need to be changed. Google has gone after sites using their likeness in the past (not that they have much choice, they've got to do this otherwise they may lose protection).
Roogle as it stands is actually pretty functional. It's also extremely fast, especially considering it just got posted to Slashdot. FYI: "privacy" is another term which yields interesting results and is not listed among their suggestions. Oddly enough, the first match is entitled "Google's Privacy Problems."
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I'd like to search not the articles available on asundry Blogs but to see what domains of coverage RSS feeds propose to cover. What I really want is an aggregator of medical industry news, but the concept applies to any domain of information.
-- @rjamestaylor on Ello
On how long it is before Google slaps a trademark infringement on them and the site is taken down....
Anyone fancy a bet?
" To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research. "
Why would one intentially seek to raise the hackles of the Google Lawyers? If one has a new search engine that has different algorithms or some unique features that will help it become a standard in the industry, then why rip off the masthead logo of the current indusrty leader and BEG for the cease and desist letter to arrive in the morning mail?
Can they be mounting a serious effort or is it April Fool's Day already?
Of course this is the way technology has headed with Microsoft (people do stuff just to have MS buy it), and it's killing innovation.
And of course Google would probably do something like this in-house, with their own people and coding practices. I think the best these guys could hope for is one of those "polite" cease-and-desist letters.
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This CmdrTaco Journal entry, just a couple weeks ago, disagrees.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
How ironic.
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379 farter 346 microsoft 192 lindows 155 sex -- lol 141 roogle 135 joi 82 linux 80 tablet 74 kasia 73 Scoble
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Judging by the fact that they have made a CC of the Google look and logo (with the the G crossed-out), I am sure that they are wanting to get Google's attention, and everyone else's while they are at it. They are probably hoping that enough people will make enough noise that Google will encorporate what they feel is a great tool into Google.
Admittedly it is not the best approach, but if it ends up working, well why not?
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
They have blatently copied the Google look and feel
- way-possible-steal-my-bandwidth-animated-gifs-and- flash-crap has adopted another look & fell. And guess whom they got "inspired" of... And then we have all the other wannabe-Google-copycats out there. Well, let's see it from the positive side: Clean is beautiful, once again. Good for us users.
This is certainly true, but have you been to Altavista lately? Yes, the king of annoying pop-up-pop-under-blinking-shit-distract-me-in-any
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Well it will certainly get them a lot of publicity, and probably at least another /. article or two along the lines of "Google forces Roogle name and/or logo change". So even if they're forced to change their identity later, they still get far more publicity than if they simply launched with a more innocuous name in the first place.
Astro: Rey Reorge! There's a rew search rengine ralled Roogle!
George: Everyone already knows about Google, Astro.
Astro: Not Roogle, ROOGLE!
George: Shut up you stupid mutt.
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
I will be amazed if these guys don't get taken down by Google. I mean part of the idea of trademark is to avoid brandname confusion and it took me a few seconds to make sure that this site wasn't affiliated with google. The hacked google logo and the very similar interface didn't help either. True the same arguments might be made for Windows and Lindows, prehaps the reason I never got those confused is that I'm very aware that is something M$ would never do. Either way I except these guys to be getting some strong words from google.
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I don't think this site has any such Grand Ambition as taking on Google (or even selling out to them). The logo isn't the only thing kinda on the 1/2-ass side. How many Blogs are indexed? 594 as of this posting (Who we Are tab on roogle). Why this guy isn't using publicly (freely!) available info on published, syndicated blog content is anyone's guess. Mine is that they ain't too serious. "farter" is still holding up above "Microsoft" as the number one search term. Go "farter!"
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These guys are meant to be seasoned pros in product management, project managemement and marketing, but they don't see a problem with what they have done??
If I was a client of theirs, I would be rather worried.
Now, if they do have a half a clue, isn't this a great way to get some eyeballs?
So does Anonymous Coward have good karma?
As soon as Google finds out about the site plus the time needed to call their laywers.
As long as there is a Second Amendment, there will always be a First Amendment.
I mean not everyone actually plans for what they do to go somewhere. Maybe they were just tinkerin around a bit and thought it'd be funny to use Google's layout for a temp setup?
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This one here can actually rely on an existing word "koogle". And besides that, it's kosher!
Koogle.net was promoted by the newsletter of the Israeli Embassy in Germany. When I last checked, it had changed its layout to alienize it from google (slightly).
Have fun,
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That's an easy one to answer. Roogle is based on RSS, which comes from the XMLRPC 'designer', Dave Winer. Dave loves to draw attention to himself like a whore at a convention in Vegas... He *knows* he'll get shut down, but what he's *hoping* for is that Google (or someone) will pick up on his Roogle idea.
Polymorphism -- It's what you make of it.
Considering it's satirical and the person is making no revenue, it may be ok. Course, IANAL, but we knew that, right?
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
Can't really find much with this... so it must be jsut a joke.
"This page is not sponsored by Google, affiliated with Google and will probably get me in trouble."
Atleast he's aware he's going to get the anal raping of the century by Google.
Know the google mirror for this? :-)
I quit.
What good is a search engine if you can't get to it?
If they can be slashdotted this easily, well... they need to think a little harder about their setup.
Huh?
A new kind of /. effect?
This is not my opinion. Actually, it's not even an opinion. And I'm nowhere to be seen near it
IANAL, but that site rather screams "parody" to me.
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You've got to be kidding. One of the pages (it's /.ed now or I would give you the link) says they have about 2000 RSS entries sitting in their database.
Functional? I didn't see any highlighting. Did you try any basic boolean searches? Any clustering of results? 2000 entries is not enough to even test for that.
So does Anonymous Coward have good karma?
i'm getting that too. i'm gonna have to use altavista again. like old skool searching style.
In other news... Google announces a new patent: Wherein Google shows that they pioneered a technology using funny-sounding nonsense words as a company name, website, and a verb. Seriously, corporations can be pretty heavy-handed and seem to forget that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. Unfortunately, in the technology world imitation is also the most likely to get you a threatening letter.
I'm glad the Royal Statistical Society has a decent seach engine at last!
No ! Did I miss anything......?
Is about to stomp a mudhole in Roogle's butt.
"In the end, there can only be one."
Ive noticed that Goodle.com have registered Gooogle.com and also setup ww.google.com sub domain to catch miss types.. now with roogle on the table... its gonna be pot luck soon what search engine you hit, no problem as long as there all good ;)
moo
Scooby: Qruick, Shraggy! Search on Roogle for "Amusement Park Owner"
Shaggy: Like, as soon as I finish this sandwich, Scooby.
"E pur si muove!" - attributed to Galileo Galilei, 1564-1642
Get famous, find a job.
Obviously they know that Google's going to come gunning for them, it's the entire point of the site. They don't care if Roogle lives or dies, really. They just wanted to show off their skills, and do so in a way that is sure to garner public attention.
Well mission accomplished. The odds of some of these guys finding employement as a direct result of this stunt are very good.
subj.
--- www.google.com ping statistics ---
1000 packets transmitted, 838 packets received, 16% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 92.917/94.189/101.547/1.128 ms
.:work is a selfinflicted handicap:.
C'mon, people- this was done properly in the original message, then messed up one line down. 'it's' means 'it is'. the possesive version, such as 'its horrible logo' or 'its name' is spelled 'its'. Just learn the darned language!
Look both ways before you cross the road.
Well, they already changed their logo...still looks kinda funny though ('logo needed!') =p
New Logo Needed !
(the search engine briefly known as 'roogle')
lololol
Ack! Foo! Run in circles, scream and shout!
Perhaps we won't have to worry about what google will do to them, perhaps the sheer force of a /.ing will do the trick
Within 10 mnutes of going to roogle, they've changed their logo to 'New Logo Needed! (the search engine breify known as roogle' and moving you cursor over the image syas 'Roogle, an RSS Search engine for Blogs'They've also added a link to roogle blog and a new note 'NOTE
This was done as a research prototype to gauge interest. Clearly there is interest. Now that I know that, it'll get a lot better. The search index is by no means comprehensive and the search logic is being fine tuned. True full text search will be available either later today or tomorrow.'
Truely Bizarre
Murphy's Law of Research: Enough research will tend to support your theory.
Google lawyers, is that an oxymoron?
I always thought that Google was a panacea place staffed by altruistic ex dot com millionaires searching for The Truth.
Oh well, another trusted institution bites the dust.
OK, I've looked and I've looked, but this thing isn't going to go anywhere if nobody knows what the hell it is, or what it's suposed to do. I see that it's got something vaguely to do with XML, but other than that, I can't figure out what the hell it's searching, how, or what it's returning. This is one of the most useless web sites that I've visited in a while. Thanks, /.!
Google itself seems to feel the /. effect.
Can I bum a sig? I left mine at the office.
And some clowns suddenly appear and try to co-op google's reputation and cash in on the high name recognition they deserve? I am not sure if it's illegal, but that doesn't make it OK; what it makes it is pathetic.
It's not really a parody. They're providing a real service, akin to Google's service, and it's not done to poke fun at Google, but instead competes with Google. There's really nothing about this that could be considered a parody...
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On a side note, I don't see too much useful in this. It mostly searches personal blogs. I'd have much more interest in something that allowed me to select the media.
You can already search rss feeds on google.
/. editors get a kick out giving google reason to sue another small company with poor judgement! Either that or they like /.ing small sites.
Plus there are tons of news aggregators that already exist and have huge indicies of rss sources.
Conclusion:
In other words:
1. Create web site - which doesn't do anything useful but has a name that rips off Google.
2. ???
3. Lawsuit!
Loogle
Why else did Google buy Blogger?
There's already plenty of sites that keep track of available RSS feeds like syndic8 and newsisfree. Why do we need another one?
Hey!!! the parentheses are good for something
Under "who we are": "The final name is clearly very unlikely to be Roogle. I'm in the process of "de-rooglizing" the look and feel presently."
Read my /. journal entry on how to get an RSS feed for your /. journal.
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A brilliant idea, I'm in love with RSS but having the backup of Google will make it go places.
Then again you never know, every site starts from scratch so this could turn out to be very popular.
The next Google for RSS feeds.
Hate to be anal, but slashdot editors, please....
Emphasis mine. Come on, it's not that hard.
In other news, I'm glad they apparently decided not to use "Roogle"... something about that word disturbs me deeply on a primal level.
Karma: T-rexcellent.
It sux. The hit count on every day type things was way to low.
/\(o)(o)/\
All your slow are belong to me.
Seems the logo has just been replaced with "New logo needed !"... that's reactivity :)
gone to the site lately? read the "about" page? it's just a test to gauge interest and promote a consulting company.
somebody just got a ton of free advertising, nothing more. says the functional system won't be operational for a couple of days. heh.
can we get stories with substance, please? not about an alpha stage website some dude threw together some day when it was snowing?
no, seriously:
This is from their about page:
There are a couple of things to understand here:
This was built as a technology experiment (or because it was snowing and I was stuck at home). Now that there's interest, it'll become much more real.
The final name is clearly very unlikely to be Roogle. I'm in the process of "de-rooglizing" the look and feel presently.
I appreciate your patience and interest.
-- Scott
followed by:
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As we are a consulting company, we are available for engagements.
Please contact us via our FuzzyGroup site for information.
Among the types of projects we can handle:
Web application development using Open Source technologies. Roogle is built with 100% Open Source components.
Web site creation with a focus on serving the needs of non-profit organizations.
Custom search engines / Knowledge Management systems
Consulting on blogging / weblogging
and then contact information and so forth.
the bold is mine; for emphasis. go look for yourself, it'll probably still be there.
man, now I -really- wish it'd snow here. maybe I could get some free publicity on slashdot too!
Reinvent the wheel only at either a lower cost, greater effectiveness, or your own personal enrichment and satisfaction.
...sort of. I guess after reading all the complaints here about their logo being too similar to Google, they've now changed it and replaced it with a image that says "New logo needed".
Despite the fact that it is almost a rip of the Google site and name the idea does have merit. Look at how many sites have RSS feeds and they normally cut the crap, just showing relevent information. Add a RSS feed from Slashdot to Roogle and all of a sudden you can search the stories without wading through all the trolls. I see the idea being used much more for a news type of search engine because finding the weird obscure things will basically be impossible with only RSS feeds.
Seems Google already said something to them.
Hence their Homepage.
That was the quickest settlement in the history of names I think.
Well, looks don't hurt either.
Clearly the name "Roogle" has some trademark issues, and clearly the site realizes this as well, as I have already stated. They will have to deal with this, and probably fairly quickly.
I know that. Obviously.
But here are some other things I know.
Google is a trademark of Columbia Pictures and King Features Syndicate and has been since the 1930's.
The name of the search engine comes from ( as opposed to the common assumption/claim that it's a spelling variant of "googol") the slang phrase "Google eyes" ( and its variant "Googly Eyes"). Google eyes was slang for either promimenent eyes, or eyes "bugged out." In other words it is a humorous variant of "goggle." Barney Google had such eyes. See how it all comes together?
One would "make google eyes" at a pretty girl.
Google is thus a very good word for a search engine name.
Please note how Google(tm) itself aknowledges this in a lefthanded way by now claiming "Google Eyes" as well. Google on it.
The Google logo is a blatent rip off of the trademarked Playschool logo, and clearly intended to be, in the current mode of assuming that computer items will be "friendlier" if they appear to be aimed at drooling two year olds.
The blue color used on the Google page is what is known as "IBM Blue" and was the trademarked "look and feel" of IBM software and products. ( And Microsoft took advantage of their position of supplier to IBM to rip it off). IBM word processing programs, for instance, had white text on that exact shade of blue background. (As did Infocom games and some other third party apps intended for the IBM PC).
You are absolutely right, and people who violate trademarks, look and feel are scum and should be publicly flogged.
KFG
Subject says it, it is so innocently cute & funny.
filed a patten?
Like Mike Patton? Mike Patton needs an RSS feed.
As a kind of 'kill-boredom' hack, I figured enough xquery out to write a sherlock RSS tuner plugin.. If you're running sherlock in OSX Jaguar, take a peek..
Theres lots of stuff that isn't implemented yet, but it displays RSS/RDF files and behaves fairly well.. Not bad for a couple days otherwise spent bitching about lack of jobs in the NYC area..
I want to add support for rdf resource dates so you can define a list of your favorite RSS sources and display them combined in date order, but first a decent persistent 'bookmark' list, when I have the time..
Thank you for the millions of feedback emails.
:)
We have added "fix pr0n dewd" to our list of things to look into.
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Is Google about to have an IPO or something? It seems like they have changed so much in the last couple months...
As long as he's not making a profit, he can make it as usful as he wants. And while you're there, perhaps you should look up the dictionary deffinition aswell. Maybe you have a very narrow deffinition of what a parody is.
Google MUST go after trademark violations if they want to have any protection for the word. It's not just some evil meanie thing, it's required by the law. It has nothing to do with being a public or private company. As soon as a trademark violation comes up that produces enough traffic to come to their attention, they must deal with it. The site itself admits the traffic was growing. It was a greater problem than it was 2 years ago.
The sites listed as similar "examples" UDRP and ACPA are not companies with a valuable trademark to protect.
It may well be they are just trying to get some free publicity - and what is better than being slapped with a cease and desist by Google.
"Let us hope it does not get in trouble because of its name"
Why shouldn't Roogle get in trouble because of its name? The name is obviously an intentional ripoff of google
Repeal the DMCA!
Seriously.. here's a standard that's evolved quickly and without a bunch of bitching between various factions (at least not that I'm aware of).
Yet, you have these enormous industry groups still haggling over the structure of XML docs tailored to their sector. Purchase orders, precription medication.. you name it - the pace of adoption has been terrible.
-- jimmycarter
Looking way down on their blog you see that Roolge is a temporary name. There is no motive for a Google buyout and they realize the name will not last. Check it out: blog entry
They have changed their design and they no longer look like Google. Not bad, in effect.
is far more amusing and useful. cthuugle
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. hmmm
Rooby-doobie-doo...
I'm sorry, which department is this from?
Wiwi
"I trust in my abilities,
but I want more then they offer"
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