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Portable Pioneer Adam Osborne dead at 64

douglips writes "Yahoo News has the story. He's best remembered for the blunder of announcing that his next version of the Osborne portable computer was so much better, that nobody bought the current version and the company died quickly. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon."

322 comments

  1. So sad... by SpanishInquisition · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope Sharon,Kelly,Jack and of course Ozzy will be able to go trough this with force and pride.

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    1. Re:So sad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It is so lame that a post like this would get modded up. And funny? Yeah, right.

      If you're going play on the name, then at least be cool about it. Instead of listing those worthless obscure nobody names, make a joke about how Fred Iommi, Enis Butler, and Charles Dexter Ward were all broken up about the news of Adam's death. See? That's much better.

    2. Re:So sad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>>Fred Iommi, Enis Butler, and Charles Dexter Ward

      who they be?

    3. Re:So sad... by slaker · · Score: 1

      HP Lovecraft references.

      Y'know. Cthulhu. Nyarlathotep. Goat with a thousand young.

      That sort of thing.

      Ia!

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    4. Re:So sad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You missed Amy, well mod me up funny as well, so I can go trough with force and pride.

    5. Re:So sad... by devnull17 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hope Sharon, Kelly, Jack and Ozzy follow soon.

    6. Re:So sad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do I give a "+1 Funny" mod point to the character who gave the immediate parent comment "+1 Insightful"?

    7. Re:So sad... by t0ny · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Ya, I was holding out for the second season myself, but then once it came out I kept hearing how the first season was better. Oh well.

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    8. Re:So sad... by grub · · Score: 1


      > Fred Iommi, Enis Butler, and Charles Dexter Ward
      who they be?


      Tony Iommi, 'Geezer' Butler and (forgot name) Ward played with Ozzy year ago in a band called Black Sabbath. You may have heard of them..

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    9. Re:So sad... by nosfucious · · Score: 1

      That's Bill Ward ... sheesh.

      "Put on the Black Sabbath and the girlfriend just ... disappears" - To paraphrase Henry Rollins.

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    10. Re:So sad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SpanishInquisition, I desperately want to suck your penis.

    11. Re:So sad... by Gefd · · Score: 1

      http://iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=31&art_id=qw10 48500545435B251&set_id=1

      Thats incredibly good advice.

    12. Re:So sad... by Gefd · · Score: 1

      "Put on the Black Sabbath and the girlfriend just ... disappears" - To paraphrase Henry Rollins.

      And an incredibly blind post...

    13. Re:So sad... by coke_dite · · Score: 1
      seems to me that the parent post is funnier, because people at least recognize *those* names. yours, while witty, I'm sure, are only recognizable to a small portion of people.

      Annoying as they are, The Osbornes are at least well-known :)

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    14. Re:So sad... by Ravenscall · · Score: 1

      Actually, It is Shub-Niggaroth, Black Goat of the Woods and Fathe of a Thousand Young.

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  2. Never heard of him... by }InFuZeD{ · · Score: 5, Funny

    But I really hope when I die I'm not best known for what I did wrong =/

    1. Re:Never heard of him... by IdleTime · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I actullay met the guy several times during the early 80's. I was working for a distributor of Osborne computers in a rather obscure country :)

      I really liked the guy, he had a lot of good ideas in the pioneer days of PC computing and he made the first portable computer that was actually usable.

      Adam, you will be missed by many who knew you and admired the work you did.

      Rest in peace!

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    2. Re:Never heard of him... by rinsoblue · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I too met him - when he was in St. Louis. He was demonstrating VP Planner at a computer show. I remember him being very tall with an almost regal bearing. He had a marvelous speaking voice.

      A friend of mine dragged me over to him and we talked for a few seconds. There was something impressive about the about the guy. Something I will never possess.

      I used all the Paperback Software products until the end of the company. They were great. And inexpensive. Lotus sued and Paperback folded. Borland fought on and won. In the end all 3 companies lost.

      Down through the years I used to wonder what ever became of him. I would go to Google and search on his name. The responses had him 1) wandering the world disheveled and talking to himself, 2) living on somebody's couch, or 3) already passed away.

      So long Adam, the world may never see your like again.

    3. Re:Never heard of him... by EvilBudMan · · Score: 1

      He also wrote the book "Introduction to Microcomputers"

      It is now out of print. I used to have a copy. Interesting.

    4. Re:Never heard of him... by mink · · Score: 1

      I happen to have a copy of this on my shelf here, it seems to be Vol. 1
      Did he write an entire series, or just the first part?

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    5. Re:Never heard of him... by EvilBudMan · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure, but I believe he did have a degree in chemical engineering as well. I don't remember mine saying vol. 1. Maybe someone else could clarify this.

  3. never used an osborne by stonebeat.org · · Score: 1

    but heard about it a lot. especially in Dilbert Comic Strips.
    definitely sad news :(

    1. Re:never used an osborne by garethw · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Osborne 1 was a such a cool machine.
      http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/os borne/

      It was based on a Zilog Z80A processor (same as that used in the Sinclair ZX Spectrum and the Colecovision console, and similar to that used in the original Gameboy), but curiously, used Motorola peripheral chips.

      It came bundled with a wide selection of software - Supercalc, Wordstar, an operating system called CP/M (the blueprint for DOS), and a BASIC interpreter by a small software company called Microsoft.

      One of the really cool things about the Osborne is that it was sold with a manual about 500 pages thick. There are chapters on each of the software packages, but also a great deal of technical information on the machine itself - memory maps, details on the types of peripherals and that kind of thing.

      It was clearly the product of a man and a company who loved computing, released in a spirit of openness and innocence for a hobbyist culture. Sadly, that culture died soon after, and stayed that way for some time.

      It was the first computer I ever had, which started me off down a road that eventually led to me earn a degree in Computer Engineering. When I first heard about Linux, it was that same hobbyist culture that immediately appealed to me.

      I think I'll boot mine up tonight. Thanks, Adam.

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    2. Re:never used an osborne by Black+Rabbit · · Score: 1

      >> It was based on a Zilog Z80A processor (same as that used in the Sinclair ZX Spectrum and the Colecovision console, and similar to that used in the original Gameboy), but curiously, used Motorola peripheral chips.

      Coleco made a sort-of PC that they called the Adam, which they discontinued in favour of all that Cabbage Patch crap. Is there any connection to the name?

    3. Re:never used an osborne by ePhil_One · · Score: 1
      It was based on a Zilog Z80A processor (same as that used in the Sinclair ZX Spectrum and the Colecovision console, and similar to that used in the original Gameboy), but curiously, used Motorola peripheral chips.

      It came bundled with a wide selection of software - Supercalc, Wordstar, an operating system called CP/M (the blueprint for DOS), and a BASIC interpreter by a small software company called Microsoft.

      The Z80 based CP/M machines were sort of the Wintel boxes of their day. Many different manufacturers of hardware with a common OS. Hell, the original IBM PC was supposed to run CP/M, just using cheaper components, but the creater of CP/M was busy the night IBM came a calling and kicked them out. (And Bill claimed to have an OS ready to go in order to save his compiler contract, thus launching him on the road to world domination).

      I still remember the family Superbrain QD. QD being Quad Density, meaning it had 2! double Density 5.25" floppy drives, for an amazing 720k of storage, backed with an amzing 64k of RAM in a world where 16k was considered enough.

      Good Times :^)

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    4. Re:never used an osborne by SamTheButcher · · Score: 1

      I remember lusting over the Osborne even though we had an Apple II. The screen was too small, but it was just so cool and had *2* floppy drives! You could carry it around! I remember seeing one in person in some computer store after reading the ads/articles in Byte magazine. Sweeeeet.

    5. Re:never used an osborne by garethw · · Score: 1

      The Z80 based CP/M machines were sort of the Wintel boxes of their day

      True, but it's also interesting to note that CP/M was an early an attempt at a portable OS.

      but the creater of CP/M was busy the night IBM came a calling and kicked them out

      Yeah, the legend goes that the creator, Gary Kildall, was out flying his private plane, somewhat arrogantly assuming they'd wait to speak to him. They didn't and ended up buying DOS from Microsoft (which was actually QDOS - Quick and Dirty Operating System from Seattle Computer Products)

      Gary Kildall became bitter over the opportunity he missed, and his life started to fall apart. He began drinking heavily, and was eventually killed in a bar fight.

      Gary's company, BTW, was called Intergalatic Digital Research, later renamed to the somewhat more serious Digital Equipment Research.

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    6. Re:never used an osborne by Ravenscall · · Score: 1

      Heh, an ex of mine in High School still had one of these things in 1995. Still worked too!

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  4. Ah, I miss the days of portables. by tcd004 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Much like these handy dandy computers.

  5. For a minute there... by IgD · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just for a minute there I thought this was one of those "(name) dead at (age)" trolls you always see when you browse at -1!

    1. Re:For a minute there... by rjamestaylor · · Score: 2, Informative
      • Just for a minute there I thought this was one of those "(name) dead at (age)" trolls you always see when you browse at -1!
      It was.

      That's the "hip/funny" part of the story that got it selected over the other submissions.

      Sick.

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    2. Re:For a minute there... by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 1

      As soon as I read "Even if..." near the end of the article, I went and checked. It's identical in format to the Steven King/Alan Thicke trolls. I'm sure if that's funny or creepy.

  6. A fitting number. by RatBastard · · Score: 5, Funny

    It seems fitting, in a nerdish way, that he should die at 64. There is a certain symmetry somehow.

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    1. Re:A fitting number. by ahkbarr · · Score: 1

      Nah, he should die at age 111111.

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      Compared to war, all other forms of human endeavor shrink to insignificance. God, how I love it. - Gen. George Patton
    2. Re:A fitting number. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just as well, I'd rather hold out for 128, thanks.

    3. Re:A fitting number. by FrostedWheat · · Score: 5, Funny

      It seems fitting, in a nerdish way, that he should die at 64. There is a certain symmetry somehow.

      Real programmers never die, they are simply cast into (void*)

    4. Re:A fitting number. by ahkbarr · · Score: 1

      Boy, I feel like quite an idiot. Meant to say 100000.

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    5. Re:A fitting number. by Sloppy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, he could have lived to age 128, but that would have required bank switching.

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    6. Re:A fitting number. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you meant 1000000.

    7. Re:A fitting number. by ahkbarr · · Score: 1

      I just shortened my life by an order of magnitude..

      Oops!

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    8. Re:A fitting number. by Moses+Lawn · · Score: 1

      So, you're saying that his lifespan was a 6-bit quantity, and he died when it overflowed. Appropriate.

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      What if life is just a side effect of some other process and God has no idea we exist?

    9. Re:A fitting number. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And we all know that bank switching is a shifty proposition, don't we?

    10. Re:A fitting number. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of MORON screws up his joke twice in a row? Oh yeah, you. Thanks for nothing.

    11. Re:A fitting number. by binaryDigit · · Score: 1

      Real programmers never die, they are simply cast into (void*)

      Shouldn't that be: cast int to void* (sorry, couldn't resist being an old C phart).

    12. Re:A fitting number. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sorry..I program in Java, and I'm unsettled by the fact that I will be collected as garbage in the afterlife.

    13. Re:A fitting number. by rowanxmas · · Score: 1

      It seems like people like this should be graced with a retired slahdot number...

      After all the sports people do it, why not nerds, this way he can live on forever.

    14. Re:A fitting number. by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      A better one would've been 16384. :)

    15. Re:A fitting number. by JDWTopGuy · · Score: 1

      In these days of 4GB systems, what does that mean for the lifespans of today's geeks?

      A 4 million year old geek, now that's SCARY!

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    16. Re:A fitting number. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The way I heard it was,

      "Old programmers never die, they just start losing
      bits here and there..."

      "Old programmers never die, but their hardware starts
      turning into software..."

      Etc., etc.

    17. Re:A fitting number. by Jenova · · Score: 1

      Well, the expansion module better hold, one jiggle and all is lost!

    18. Re:A fitting number. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      As long as your related objects keep a link open to you, you will exist forever, or until the universe crashes.

    19. Re:A fitting number. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -- Sig: If evolution is true, why hasn't my sig become wittier?

      Evolution is alive and well. Unfortunately, your sig was not fit enough to survive.

    20. Re:A fitting number. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you will be dismantled and used as parts of other objects. They will overwrite your flesh in there image, so as long as there are objects are you you'll probably be around. But so will everyone who came before you. Just not as you were originally. Your data will be reformatted into usable blocks ala soilent green.

    21. Re:A fitting number. by ahkbarr · · Score: 1

      Yes. /. has always been a place where everyone measures twice and cuts once.

      At least it was mine to screw up.

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    22. Re:A fitting number. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, don't sweat it, there are 10 types of people in this world, those who speak binary and those who don't. Hopefully you don't die by the age of 100000 (32).

    23. Re:A fitting number. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could be worse. In Perl, I've heard, there's Global Destruction.

    24. Re:A fitting number. by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had NOTHING to do with it, I swear. I thought he was 8 bit, not my fault he crashed when I entered 65. It's that damned two's compliment! When will you learn, people need to be unsigned. Why god... why?

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    25. Re:A fitting number. by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      The actor and programmer in me both feel as if I have been typecasted.

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    26. Re:A fitting number. by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 1

      Sorry..I program in Java, and I'm unsettled by the fact that I will be collected as garbage in the afterlife.

      You're posting as Anonymous Coward, yet you're worried about being thought of as garbage?

      HH

    27. Re:A fitting number. by Tingler · · Score: 1

      And yet, some will still remain virgins. :)

  7. American Icon? by Metallic+Matty · · Score: 0, Troll

    If he's an American Icon, and I'm an American, and I have no idea who the !@#$ he is, something seems wrong with that description..

    1. Re:American Icon? by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      Maybe youre grasp of English is just lacking. He is an icon, and he is American. American is an adjective. This means that the noun in question, here the icon, is from America.

    2. Re:American Icon? by daeley · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you're probably right. Maybe something like this?

      Truly an American icon... except for a testy Internet user calling him/her/itself 'Metallic Matty.' Members of the Osborne family expressed regret that Metallic Matty hadn't been informed, but suggested he/she/it either RTFA or chill out.

      Is that better? ;)

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    3. Re:American Icon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you just aren't cultured enough.

      What you wrote would make sense if anybody ever said or wrote, "American icon" and meant "an icon that is American". However, nobody ever means that.

    4. Re:American Icon? by Metallic+Matty · · Score: 1

      Is that better? ;)

      Much; I particularly enjoyed the direct reference to myself in the quote. haha.

    5. Re:American Icon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's wrong is not in the description but in you. Everybody who has any serious and in-depth knowledge of the personal computer business is very familiar with "the osborne effect". Marketeers in all industries know it very well and strive to avoid repeating his mistake.

    6. Re:American Icon? by jcr · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you're just an ignorant person, who would have done better to keep silent.

      Adam Osborne was a brilliant man. He will be missed.

      -jcr

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    7. Re:American Icon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was indeed an American citizen, however personally I'd say being born in Thailand to colonial parents, being sent back to England for public school and uni makes him a fine product of the British empire.

    8. Re:American Icon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or there is something wrong with you? It is sad when a person does not know something the first thing that jumps to their mind is that the should not know it. A wise person would have looked him up on the Internet and increased there knowlege instead of bragging lack of knowlege.

  8. this has been a shitty week by Raven42rac · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First Lynne Thigpen, now Adam Osbourne. But seriously, I, and I am sure many other slashdotters would love to hear stories from some of the "old-timers" around here about their experiences working with Mr. Osbourne. Hopefully nobody told him about the afterlife, would probably make life less worth living.

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    1. Re:this has been a shitty week by frovingslosh · · Score: 1
      this has been a shitty week.... First Lynne Thigpen, now Adam Osbourne.

      Thigpen wasn't this week, wasn't even last week, was the week before that. And hardly of specific interest to slashdotters.

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    2. Re:this has been a shitty week by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      "Oh Lord, forgive the errata" Let me deconstruct this post. First of all, ok you got me, I meant month. Gee, I FUCKED UP. Will not be the first time, will not be the last. There you have it, in print no less, or in type, whatever you want to call it, would not want to be wrong whilst correcting myself. Second, since when is real life not interesting to /.ers?? Third, lighten up, you can't live life being serious all the time. On that same token, I am sick of all these /.ers correcting people when the poster obviously meant his or her post to be taken in jest, this has happened to me thrice in as many days .

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    3. Re:this has been a shitty week by dillon_rinker · · Score: 1

      "Oh Lord, forgive the errata"

      You forgot the period at the end of that sentence.

    4. Re:this has been a shitty week by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      I realized that, like, two seconds after clicking submit, that is what I get for not using preview, huh?

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    5. Re:this has been a shitty week by dillon_rinker · · Score: 1

      Actually, that's what you get for complaining about nit-pickers. ;)

      after clicking submit, that is what
      That comma should be a semicolon. As it stands, you have a run-on sentence.

    6. Re:this has been a shitty week by Raven42rac · · Score: 2

      Ok, stop now.

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    7. Re:this has been a shitty week by unitron · · Score: 1
      I fear that Osbourne and Thigpen aren't really related with regard to the "comes in threes rule". I'm afraid the sequence is going to be Richard Crenna ("Judging Amy"), Lynne Thigpen ("The District"), and someone else whose unexpected demise will necessitate some frantic plot line reworking for some other television show.

      Unless,of course, this is a PBS thing, and it's Mr. Rogers, Lynne Thigpen, and someone else from afterschool TV.

      Of course we could also see two more unexpected losses of personal computer pioneers.

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    8. Re:this has been a shitty week by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      In any case, any of the above scenarios would suck major ass.

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    9. Re:this has been a shitty week by jilliano · · Score: 1

      You did also forget to mention who Lynne Thigpen is though.

    10. Re:this has been a shitty week by Cplus · · Score: 1

      ....I'd like to leave you alone, but that appears to be a sentence fragment.

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    11. Re:this has been a shitty week by dillon_rinker · · Score: 1

      DOH! I looked at that post for something like a minute, trying to figure out something to say about it. Nice work!

  9. Is this true? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone have a link? I've been listening to the radio all day and haven't heard anything about it.

  10. a sad day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had a couple of Osborne 1s. I met a lifelong friend in an Osborne computer club. I upgraded to a Northstar Horizon and ZCPR/3. Some great days...

  11. Heh, great form. by Sloppy · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The guy's death is made into a joke. Well, some people will undoubtably complain, because you're supposed to be somber or something. IMHO, jokes in one's eulogy are a good thing, but just watch, someone will flame it.

    Anyway, I saw an Osbourne as late as 1988. I was over at a friend of a friend's house, and his mom did her word processing on one. I was amazed. I impressed her by knowing how to copy files with PIP. ;-)

    The little screen was so tiny, and it was so heavy. Just a few years later, Toshiba would show people how to do portables right.

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    1. Re:Heh, great form. by gadfium · · Score: 1

      Anyway, I saw an Osbourne as late as 1988. I was over at a friend of a friend's house, and his mom did her word processing on one. I was amazed. I impressed her by knowing how to copy files with PIP. ;-)

      I've never used an Osbourne, but I did have a Kaypro which was basically an Osbourne clone. The Kaypro had a slightly larger screen, and may have weighed less. I bought mine in 1985.

      It was a nice little machine, although it had no graphics ability or colour. I ran Wordstar on it, and dBase II, and Turbo Pascal 3 for CP/M. I also played a lot of Zork.

      This clas of computers were known as "luggables", because no-one could reasonably describe them as portable. It wasn't unreasonable to take one around to a friend's place. I even took mine on a flight cross-country once (as handheld baggage).
    2. Re:Heh, great form. by kfg · · Score: 3, Funny

      I never had an Osborne, although I knew a few people who did. I ended up with the Compaq clone and you could have seen me using it (as I've posted before, for anybody keeping score) to run the core functions of my business until 1999.

      I loved that old 4mhz battle ax, and only retired it because purely mechanical bits that I couldn't find replacements for began to wear out.

      I'd beg to differ somewhat on the Toshiba comment. Sometimes a luggable really is the proper portable solution because sometimes you don't want a laptop or "desktop replacement."

      You want a desktop that's easy to take with you.

      And now, for the first time, with new low power, low heat cpu's and integrated chipsets on *desktop* motherboards a quarter the size that Osborne was able to make them, and loverly full size, flat panel, LCD screens, a true transportable, *NOT* a laptop, is truly possible to make.

      I intend to make one.

      I'd name it in honor of Adam Osborne, only I can't name it Osborne, of course, and I can't name it Adam, for, ummmmm, obvious reasons.

      I know, I'll use a TLA for (A)dam (O)sborne (L)uggable.

      Yeah, that'll work.

      KFG

    3. Re:Heh, great form. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about the OBA -- Osborne Again course you'd have to use bash on it

    4. Re:Heh, great form. by kfg · · Score: 1

      What on earth else would I use? :)

      And you can be certain I wasn't running Windows, or any *other* GUI on a 4mhz green screen machine.

      KFG

    5. Re:Heh, great form. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      Um... the need for the luggable you describe has been eroded. What itch would the luggable scratch that would not be perfectly satisfied by either a Shuttle XPC or a laptop?

      I'm curious, not just being a dick.

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    6. Re:Heh, great form. by kfg · · Score: 1

      Well, not meaning to be a dick in return, but it would scratch every itch that would lead one to want a desktop over a laptop in the first place, and it doesn't matter if the need for a luggable has been eroded if *I'm* still one of the bits of debris clinging tenaciously to the rock face of need. And I'm not whining about their being unavailable. I'm going to build it. For me. Not to market.

      It's never going to sit on a lap, always on a desk. It's never going to run on batteries. It's going to have a standard keyboard and mouse and a full size monitor that can be positioned anywhere I like it independant of the keyboard. It's going to move far more often than a desktop, but never ever have to be lugged around all day in a bookbag or backpack so it doesn't *have* to be particularly small or light. I can carry an acoustic guitar in a hard case around quite nicely for instance.

      The Shuttle comes closer than a laptop, but is actually intended to be as *small* as possible, not as convenietly transportable as possible. It's a subtle difference but a real one. The cube shape contains the most interior volume in the least exterior sheet metal.

      For transporting it's the monitor and keyboard that determine your form, just as in the laptop, and just as in the laptop this means building spread out and flat. Since were dealing with a fair amount of area this way you can use a standard ATX board and still have tons of space left over on one side for drives and such.

      A slimline case lets you fold your full size monitor on one side of it, your full size keyboard on the other, tuck all your wiring into a cubby, grab the handle on top and go. Or the monitor could simply be built into the case. A desktop like this was marketed some years ago.

      Call it the attache case computer if you like, a time honored form factor for easy carrying.

      Maybe you wouldn't define this as a luggable in the sense that the Osborne was, but it's close enough for me. It lugs. My full size tower and 19" CRT don't.

      KFG

    7. Re:Heh, great form. by soupforare · · Score: 1

      They still make them
      It's just they are prohibitively expensive
      I have some 486 ones from Dolch I picked up from someone who didn't know what they were.

      Wish I had the cash for a shiney new FlexPAC with a handheld wireless display *swoon*

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      --- Do you believe in the day?
    8. Re:Heh, great form. by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      AOL for the A.O.L.!!! ;)

      I agree that a "luggable" PC might be an interesting thing. If I had the parts I'd build one of my own. I move my PC from room to room quite often, because garbage accumulates around it *g*, and because my den lacks heat :(

      -uso.
      Dosius' Ideal Luggable (DIL) - 8086, 640K RAM, MDPA, 504MB HDD, 720K FDD, running DOSPLUS 1.2-je3 (=CP/M 4.1 with DOS emulation) *g*

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    9. Re:Heh, great form. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      anyone can make one. It's called a lunchbox computer and I have built 4 of them in the past 10 years. Hell we have one here for field video editing that has a dual P-4 2.5ghz processors, Mpeg2 decoder card, a rendering daughtercard (Gotta love Avid!) and 4 gig of ram.

      Oh and it's lighter than most laptops with a DVD burner in it.

      nothing special here, just someone thinking of making something that has been available for years.

    10. Re:Heh, great form. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      Ok. Something like a flexpac, only a little smaller? That sounds like a very desireable product.

      It just only makes sense to me if you're aiming for something that is much much more powerful than any laptop. If you're going for a low power/heat CPU and no expansion cards, I don't really understand what desktop computers have that big laptops don't have.

      Do I understand you now?

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      There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
    11. Re:Heh, great form. by kfg · · Score: 1

      A little smaller and considerably cheaper. I don't need the sort of industrial/military grade thing that Dolch supplies. I can build it cheaply with standard parts off the rack with a bit of cleverness and hacking, which, as it happens, I enjoy doing. :)

      Perhaps we just have differing points of view, which is ok. I don't understand why anyone would have a big laptop if they can have an equally portable desktop that suits their needs. If nothing else he basic ergonomics of a desktop are suited for desktop work. The ergonomics of a laptop are subordinate to its form folded up for transportation.

      Again, in that sense, I'm not even aiming for a Dolch, I'm aiming for a desktop that packs reasonable neatly for carrying into a suitcase form, with a completely standard keyboard and mouse. Cheaply.

      Maybe it just comes down to that. I can build what I want for a fraction of the price I can buy something that only simulates what I want.

      And I want what I *want*, you can't argue with that. :)

      KFG

  12. Wait... Osborne? by TWX_the_Linux_Zealot · · Score: 1

    "...even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon."

    Wait... We're talking about the Computer guy, right, not the pop/metal/goth singer, right?

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    IBM had PL/1, with syntax worse than JOSS,
    And everywhere the language went, it was a total loss...
  13. Hmmmmm.... by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

    >> Truly an American icon

    Well, the Americans get *partial* credit for this one anyhow.

  14. He also should be remembered for. . . by Fritz+Benwalla · · Score: 4, Informative

    Writing the manuals for the Intel 4004, the very first single chip CPU.

    Rest in peace.

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    1. Re:He also should be remembered for. . . by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      !!! hontou wa ne???

      Adam Osborne wrote the 4004 manual?! *confused*

      -uso.

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    2. Re:He also should be remembered for. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      4004 Fiile noot foound

  15. Last Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "My reincarnated self is going to be waaaaaay better than this.

  16. I remember our Osborne 01 by cve · · Score: 1

    Most people thought it was a sewing machine.

  17. Farewell, Uncle A-O by Mr.+Spleen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have family photos with him back from the early 80s. I was just a tot when he and aunt Barb divorced, so I don't remember him. My mom has told me that I called him Uncle A-O (since my name is also Adam).

    But a few of my extended family members still have Osborne 1s in their basements/attics/garages. I played with one last year at a family reunion. The article is correct, it's almost exactly like a portable sewing machine.

    So long, Uncle A-O!

  18. OH my gosh... by snatchitup · · Score: 5, Interesting

    He came to my school while I was in the MBA program. He gave us a little speach on what it meant to be an entrepreneur.

    He said, "An entrepreneur is the kind of guy that walks into a bar with friends, and notices the one woman that is too hot for anyone to consider making an approach. The entrepreneur is able to walk up to that woman, begin a conversation, and have her under his thumb before the evening's end."

    He then went to speak of a lawsuit against is VP line of software. He had a spreadsheet and was in a lawsuit against Lotus.
    He said something like, "Who care if I lose. Any publicity is good publicity. When I'm at the press conference after verdict, I'll announce my new line of Artificial Intelligence software."

    Just thought I'd share with you.

    RIP Adam.

    1. Re:OH my gosh... by Ponty · · Score: 1

      Was that before or after his company went out of business? :-)

    2. Re:OH my gosh... by GreenHell · · Score: 1

      Judging from the fact that the lawsuit with Lotus was mentioned, that places it at no earlier than 1987. SO definitely after. :-)

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    3. Re:OH my gosh... by ultramk · · Score: 1

      Ok, talk about lack of ambition: that kind of power, and all the guy wants is to get her under his thumb? I mean, I could come with way better positions without even thinking about it very hard...

      m-

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      You catch enchiladas by picking them up behind the head and holding them underwater until they don't kick anymore -VeGas
    4. Re:OH my gosh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, so he bragged about treating women like pieces of meat and unethically manipulating the legal system for profit. Did you ask him if it is necessary to be an asshole to succeed in business, or is that self-evident?

      Not a troll, I'm willing to be an asshole if that is what is needed to succeed, or even just survive. I am all out of other ideas.

    5. Re:OH my gosh... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      He said, "An entrepreneur is the kind of guy that walks into a bar with friends, and notices the one woman that is too hot for anyone to consider making an approach. The entrepreneur is able to walk up to that woman, begin a conversation, and have her under his thumb before the evening's end."

      Well, that means about 99.9% of slashdotters will never be successful entrapreneurs. Hell, I can't even spell it.

    6. Re:OH my gosh... by cheese_wallet · · Score: 1

      "Well, that means about 99.9% of slashdotters will never be successful entrapreneurs. Hell, I can't even spell it"

      He confused Successful Salesman with Entrepreneur.

    7. Re:OH my gosh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SPEECH, not "speach", motherfucker. Jesus. Why do so many assholes here get this wrong?

    8. Re:OH my gosh... by snatchitup · · Score: 1

      Yes it was early 1989. The software business was a completely different business than the computer biz.

      Funny thing was, I think we (family business) used it. It was so much cheaper than Lotus. If you remember old Lotus. There were the slash commands... I.E. You got to the menu by pressing forward slash "/" then the first letter of the menu option.

      His software was very similar, though, you did something like, press the "=" sign, then pressed numbers. Each menu option was numbered.

      I'm pretty sure this was the gist of the suit. It wasn't about the fact that it was a spreadsheet. There were others out there already.

      The lawsuit was over the menuing system.

      Imagine a lawsuit today over menuing systems?

      Heck, they're all supposed to be the same.

      ---
      On Osborne. I really didn't think much of him. He was really full of himself. But I'll say, he definitely lived it up.

    9. Re:OH my gosh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lotus sued *everyone* with a similar menu structure to 1-2-3.

      Eventually they took Borland all the way to the Supreme Court before finally losing for good -- this was long long after the DOS software market was dead and 1-2-3 had lost to Excel.

      If it wasn't for Lotus (and Apple) being such assholes about Look'N'Feel, most Linux desktop coders would probably be living in fear of lawsuits today.

  19. MAn i thought my Kaypro was old by eadint · · Score: 4, Informative

    If your woundering heres a Picture of it. man i thought my kaypro was ugly and old.

    1. Re:MAn i thought my Kaypro was old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that was the "new style" Osborne 1. I had the old "tan case" original model.

  20. Back in the day... by john82 · · Score: 5, Informative
    The Osborne1 was the hot piece of technology. And to give you an idea how desperate the situation was, consider this.
    • It had a 5 inch screen that was monochrome (amber I seem to recall).
    • It weighed a freakin' ton. Okay maybe 30lbs. But the brochures highlighted that like it was impressive (Only 30 lbs!).
    • There were two 5.25" floppies (360k?)
    • 64 kB of RAM!
    • And last, but not least, a 4MHz Z80 CPU!

    Gadzooks how could one resist? But for a lot of folks who needed a computer not bolted to the floor (like reporters), the Osborne1 fit the bill.
    1. Re:Back in the day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just imagine a Beowulf clus... ummm, nevermind

    2. Re:Back in the day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Mmm. Bundled Software. This is what made the Osborne sell (in addition to it luggability)

      CP/M, Wordstar, MailMerge, SuperCalc, CBASIC, MBASIC. Here is a picture of an ad for the Osborne. link

    3. Re:Back in the day... by Sarcazmo · · Score: 1

      I've still got an old IBM portable case in the basement similar to the Osborne.

      It has a 6 inch screen or so, and without drive already weighs at least 30 pounds. Decked out with full height floppies or a hard disk and a floppy, weighs more like 50.

      The really amazing part is the power supply. Now, I can't quite judge where the power supply ends and the monitor begins, since it's all one piece, but the power supply only puts out something like 65 watts, and is freakin huge. Judging from other IBM PC power supplies from the same era, this one was actually small and compact for the time.

      It's really amazing how much switching power supply technology has advanced, that we can get 550-600 watts into an ATX form factor PS these days.

    4. Re:Back in the day... by flafish · · Score: 1

      The Osborne1 was the hot piece of technology. And to give you an idea how desperate the situation was, consider this.

      It had a 5 inch screen that was monochrome (amber I seem to recall). Nope. White lettters on black screen. Next model had amber.

      It weighed a freakin' ton. Okay maybe 30lbs. But the brochures highlighted that like it was impressive (Only 30 lbs!). Yep. 120v ac powered only too.

      There were two 5.25" floppies (360k?) Nope 90k

      64 kB of RAM! Yep

      And last, but not least, a 4MHz Z80 CPU! Think so. Just don't feel like opening ours up to see.

      Practiced basic programing on it.
      RIP Adam. :-(

    5. Re:Back in the day... by dillon_rinker · · Score: 1

      What's your serial number? Mine's 62888-5155.

      My power supply is rated for 3.5A at 125V, making only 45W.

    6. Re:Back in the day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the thing is, power supplies from 10 even 20 or 30 years ago *still work*

      i doubt ill be able to fire up my trusty ol 350 in 20 years. ill be lucky if it makes it to next year.

    7. Re:Back in the day... by IntlHarvester · · Score: 1

      I had an Osborne 1 in my possession a couple years back, which I sold. Some pics of the system with the software bundle, etc

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    8. Re:Back in the day... by dmaxwell · · Score: 1

      They used to say that you could always pick the Osbourne users out of a crowd. They were the ones with one shoulder 5 inches lower than the other.

    9. Re:Back in the day... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      and a x86 card you could put in it to run dos apps.

      really ahead of apple at the time.

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      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    10. Re:Back in the day... by Sarcazmo · · Score: 1

      You're right, it is only 3.5A.. I guess that includes the monitor power too... amazing that thing even could boot up. I know I ran a 486 motherboard in it at one point years ago.

      Mine is mostly just a shell these days, the keyboard part is only a tray, since the original keyboard was MIA when I got the system and the previous user had found a standard keyboard that would fit in the tray when its case was removed.

      The motherboard that was in it was originally an 8088, but I'm not sure if it was original either, IIRC it had a non-intel 8088 in it.

      BTW- S/N 109505-5155 You searching for your long lost computer?

    11. Re:Back in the day... by jmitchel!jmitchel.co · · Score: 1

      360K floppies? If only!

      The original Osbourne shipped with single sided, single density drives with a capacity of around 90K.

      Later (and moded) versions of the O-1 had double-density, single sided drives that took it up to 180K apice or so. I believe it was the much balleyhooed O-2 that had double sided drives, but it's been too long...

      Moreover, the 5" screen was 50 characters wide. This was rather inconvenient, because the standard width of a full line on paper is 72 or so, so every line you typed ended up scrolling the page horizontally, back and forth. It was quite obnoxious. Neither was it amber by default. I'm pretty sure it was black-and-white, though green may have been an option (I'm confusing it with the Kaypro I think). That particular shade of blue-white that the old mono monitors used was rather obnoxious to look at for long periods of time.

      The processor was not a Z80 either, it was an 8080. There wasn't much difference, but the Z80 had a few instructions that made life easier and so SW for the Z80 wasn't backward compatible. I don't remember the speed at all, but I doubt it was 4mhz... that came later too. Contemporary machines had were using 2MHZ parts.

      I believe it was closer to mid, to lower 20s in weight (the article says 23lbs and that sounds about right). It was a little lighter than many of it's competitors because of the small CRT and because it used a plastic case where Kaypros (for example) used steel.

      The worst offender on weight was a Zenith PC, the 160 I believe, which had a rather funny form-factor (the floppy drives were on a shelf that popped up, and which crammed an entire PC compatible into the case, with 7 or 8 full length ISA slots and a full-sized, enclosed powersupply into the case. All told, it weighed in at over 40 lbs.

      Anyway, the Osbourne 2 was really going to be a huge improvement over the Ozzy-1, because it had a 80 char wide, 7" screen, and, as I recall, double-sided, double density disk drives that would have been at least 360K appiece (I believe that it was closer to 380K). It was probably going to still weigh a tonne, but it would have had enough features to make it more than a novelty.

      I used to have an ad for an Osbourne 3, not that I think it was ever released, and that looked kinda neat. By sticking with a 7" screen and moving to half-height floppies, it ended up being a bit larger than a lunch box. I never saw the weight quoted, but I wager they got it down to 16 or 18 pounds... not light by current standards, but it wasn't until the late 80s that portables using whatever the current chip was at the time fell much beneath that level.

      Altogether though, the Ozzy was enough of a PITA to use that I got bored with it quite quickly.

    12. Re:Back in the day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The big thing with the Osborne, besides price and the bundled software, was that you could take it with you in the airplane. Not that you could work with it while seated but you could ensure it did not end up in Timbuktu with the rest of your luggage.

    13. Re:Back in the day... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      > # There were two 5.25" floppies (360k?)

      360K? We flippin' *wished*. The floppies were 64K.

      Chris Mattern

    14. Re:Back in the day... by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      45? :\ I thought W=AV. *forgets his HS physics*

      -uso.

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  21. Osborne MB Image on Coprolite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can see the 4116's on the left:
    Osborne MB

  22. Stephen King by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the poster of this story is the one who used to type in the "Stephen King Dead at 54" troll posts. The wording is the same.

    1. Re:Stephen King by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am still trying to figure out what that is all about. That has gotten old and unimaginative

  23. I was aiming at "ironic", but I'll accept "funny". by RatBastard · · Score: 1

    Wasn't trying to funny, but I'll accept it. I'm juts kinda geely when it comes to powers of 2.

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    Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
  24. Sorry to say.. by Adam9 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You have been trolled.

  25. Heavy heart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not only did he premier his suitcase computer, he also premiered the monsterous software bundle along with the machine. CP/M and a slew of the top applications.

    It was a funny little machine, with its 80 character console on a scrollable, 50 character, 4" monitor.

    The closest, most pure competitor was the Kaypro.

    He also was behind a lot of early technical books. I think I still have a book on the 8080 from his company.

    For old farts like me, he was a notable personality back In The Day of every body trying to make a mark in the computer market.

    Sad to hear of his passing.

  26. 64 years of life... by gonzo_bozo · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Nobody will ever need more than 64 years of life..." Yet another shortsighted designer :(

  27. Meta-Slashdotting by Fritz+Benwalla · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find it very funny that the first site that comes up when you search for "Adam Osborne Biography" on Google goes down moments after Slashdot posts his obit. Even if slashdot hasn't linked to it.

    All the karma-whores rushing out in their titbit scavenger hunt.

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    1. Re:Meta-Slashdotting by paradesign · · Score: 1
      shit, caught red handed!

      err... no really we are family friends, thats how i know these things.

      But seriously, he'll be missed.

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      I want 2D games back.
  28. You... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're a sharp one, aren't you! Now back in your cage before the scientists come back, okay? :-)

  29. And now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...he's an ex-icon. His kept telling everyone that his next life was going to be so much better that nobody paid attention to his current one.

  30. The pioneers are getting old by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 1

    If you know someone from the early days of the computer industry, now's a good time to jot down his/her stories and recollections. There's a lot of history that could vanish otherwise.

    1. Re:The pioneers are getting old by Jouster · · Score: 1

      I'm working on it, but the tears keep stopping me. It's hard to talk to a person who you greatly respect because you're afraid they might not be there tomorrow.

      Jouster

  31. Sorry, never heard of him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but still, sorry to see anyone die that young...

  32. Re:Sad news ... Stpehn King dead at 55 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  33. But it WAS a great machine in its time by m11533 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You make light of this machine's accomplishments, but in its time, it was truly a wonderful machine. Just the thought that there was this computer and you could actually take it with you on a trip so you had it available where ever you were going was just fantastic. While there were a few that pre-dated it (there was a similarly sized APL machine, the IBM APL 5100), this was truly a revolutionary machine. It was such a shame when they announced the Osborne 2 prematurely and EVERYONE decided to stop buying the current model and buy the new one when it came out. But, out of this disaster people realized just how powerful the idea of a computer you could haul around really was.

    1. Re:But it WAS a great machine in its time by homer_ca · · Score: 1

      Even if he didn't hype the Osbourne 2 prematurely, Kaypro came out with a better model a little while later. It had a 9 inch screen that you could actually use to read 80 column text. The rest of the specs were all industry standard for that time for a business class system running CP/M.

    2. Re:But it WAS a great machine in its time by john82 · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, you misunderstand. I wanted one of these in the worst way. I'm just pointing out what we thought was irresistible back then in light of present day capabilities.

      Still, the Osborne1 was a pacesetter. And for a time it was considered one the best offerings available.

      Do you recall the print advertising though? I do. Byte magazine used to run an ad showing an attractive business woman carrying one as though it was her attache. After I carried one the first time, I thought she must have been a weightlifter.

    3. Re:But it WAS a great machine in its time by Nexx · · Score: 1

      either that, or she was carrying a mockup :)

  34. Re:GOD, WHY DOES MOZILLA 1.3 SUCK SO BAD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool. Give us your IP and E-mail once u are up. Oh, wait. You have already sent e-mail to everybody in the world giving us maps of the war. And you kindly shared your money with Some account owned by an Al Qaida guy.

  35. stuff I remember about Osborne by chitselb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm 40. Back in the day, I worked at the Tyson's Corner ComputerLand store, where they sold the Osborne I. It had a Z-80, it ran CP/M -- the precursor to what could have been DOS if only Kildall hadn't been out flying his airplane the on the day IBM knocked on his door. The bundled software with an Osborne I included PacMan, adapted for the 16x64 text display, and I played that on the floor demo a lot.

    Looking back now, it seems to me that the Osborne books were the logical O'Reilly Associates of that era. I was particularly fond of "Introduction to Microprocessors" and their various assembly language introductions. My copies were majorly dogeared. The only one I hung onto was my 6502 Assembly Language Programming by Lance Leventhal.

    About ten years ago, some friends of mine gave me an Osborne I, which they picked up for $7 at a garage sale in Colorado Springs. I turned it on a few years ago and it still worked... was thinking of Ebaying it but I think I might just hang on to it now. Osborne will be remembered by me mostly for the Osborne I and those great books he published.

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    1. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by dillon_rinker · · Score: 1

      what could have been DOS if only Kildall hadn't been out flying his airplane

      Au contraire (pardon my French). I doubt that Kildall was half the businessman that Gates was (and is.) The thing about MS-DOS is that it was not sold to IBM; it was licensed non-exclusively. THAT was the coup d'etat that gave us the IBM-compatible revolution. IBM had fumbled by using industry-standard hardware that any company could replicate (NOT in the Star Trek sense, mind you). MS-DOS allowed any pair of guys in a barn to market a drop-in replacement for the IBM PC. Had Kildall been at home, he would have sold CP/M outright for an amazing chunk of change and IBM might yet be in control.

      Of course, the amazing thing is that, having been screwed over mightily by Gates, IBM partnered with him again in developing OS/2, allowing Gates to use them for free R&D for his own windowing product. But that's a topic for another post...

    2. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing about MS-DOS is that it was not sold to IBM; it was licensed non-exclusively.

      The other piece of the puzzle was Compaq's ability to reverse engineer the BIOS. I've never understood why that held up from a legal standpoint, but it enabled Compaq to commence its Attack of the IBM Clones.

      Also, it was Kildall's wife who handled the legal issues. They didn't want to hear IBM's presentation because of the wording in IBM's non-disclosure agreement. At that time, Kildall's company was doing very well with CP/M, and they didn't want to risk inadvertently losing their business to IBM.

    3. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... Hopefully one with some thought in it this time! IBM was totally fucking over the development and future buisness model for OS/2 and MS knew it. IBM would have destroyed MS along with OS/2 if MS hadn't gotten out when it did.

      OS/2 was 5 times larger, 5 times slower and 5 times too expensive for what it was trying to do. And this was not MS fault, it was IBMs philosophy that was trashing it.

    4. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by cgreuter · · Score: 1
      CP/M -- the precursor to what could have been DOS if only Kildall hadn't been out flying his airplane the on the day IBM knocked on his door.

      <nitpick> Actually, this isn't true. Kildall had a long talk with the IBM people but decided he didn't like their offer. Apparently, they wanted to pay him a flat fee for a CP/M license and he wanted more. IBM went to Microsoft who agreed to the deal (for less cash up front but with the right to license DOS to other companies. The rest is history. </nitpick>

    5. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by emoon · · Score: 1

      The Osbourne was the first computer I had ever seen in person.

      My father had purchased (or was given one) for work.

      It was a huge box but I remember being impressed that you could carry a computer at all.

      Unfortunately, I was never allowed to play around with such an expensive piece of equipment. :(

    6. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > OS/2 was 5 times larger, 5 times slower and 5 times too expensive for what it was trying to do.

      Reminds me of Mac OS X.

    7. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by Moses+Lawn · · Score: 1


      The other piece of the puzzle was Compaq's ability to reverse engineer the BIOS. I've never understood why that held up from a legal standpoint, but it enabled Compaq to commence its Attack of the IBM Clones.


      Because they did a cleanroom implementation. That way, if IBM complained, Compaq could show them the code and say "Nope, it's totally different." This was reason the clones happened, because Compaq licensed their BIOS out.

      And thanks for shooting down the "Gary went flying" canard. I going to say it if you hadn't. I'm really tired of hearing that one.

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    8. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by chitselb · · Score: 1

      I remember reading (somewhere, once) that Kildall had embedded "signature bytes" in the CP/M binaries that inexplicably showed up in Tim Patterson's QDOS 1.0. (basically an 8088 port of CP/M) What does the slashdot cabal say to veracity of this rumor?

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    9. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by buckinm · · Score: 1

      That just doesn't make sense... A "port" implies that the code was recompiled in the least, so there wouldn't be any reason for the bytes to be there. The only way for the bytes to be there would be if he copied the object code, which wouldn't work anyway...

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    10. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most early 8086 software was just a binary translation from 8080 software.

      The legend is that Kidall used some easter egg command or something and proved that IBM DOS 1.0 was derived at least in part from CP/M (maybe just some of the utilities).

      There was presumably a settled lawsuit that kept everyone's mouth shut on the topic. Or it might just be a urban legend.

    11. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by Surak · · Score: 1

      The only one I hung onto was my 6502 Assembly Language Programming by Lance Leventhal.

      I *still* have that book. I bought back when I had an Apple ][. That book was the book I cut my assembler teeth on. ;)

    12. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by Cplus · · Score: 1

      Hmmmmm, the interesting word today must have been "Canard". Canard is french for duck and also means a deliberately misleading story.

      Extra points for Moses if the plane that Gary flew was a Canard, as it is also a type of plane.

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    13. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by tcr · · Score: 1

      I remember reading (somewhere, once) that Kildall had embedded "signature bytes" in the CP/M binaries that inexplicably showed up in Tim Patterson's QDOS 1.0

      Perhaps you mean one of Cringely's books...

      In Accidental Empires, Gary Kildall still believes that QDOS code was stolen straight from CP/M. Gary Kildall is quoted as saying, "Ask Bill why function code 6 ends in a dollar sign. No one in the world knows that but me"

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    14. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by per+unit+analyzer · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Looking back now, it seems to me that the Osborne books were the logical O'Reilly Associates of that era. I was particularly fond of "Introduction to Microprocessors" and their various assembly language introductions. My copies were majorly dogeared. The only one I hung onto was my 6502 Assembly Language Programming by Lance Leventhal.

      I'm surprised that Osborne's publishing venture with McGraw-Hill has received such little attention in this slashdot topic. He published a lot of books that got many an aspiring geek started in the early eighties. I learned assembly with the 6809 vesrion of the Leventhal book. I never really got the hang of assembly before Leventhal, after that it all made sense. A lot of the books Osborne published were that way... He seemed to publish books that were very practical and helped the reader understand the topic at a fundamental level. Typically the Osborne books served as invaluable references long after the reader had mastered the topic. I still own my Leventhal book too. It represents a huge turning point in my understanding of computers... Many folks will remember him for the luggable computers but, IMHO, his real contribution to computing was his publishing.

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    15. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      Compaq ?-> Phoenix Associates

      -uso.

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    16. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      It's 9, not 6. ;) Even today under Doze, strings printed using AH=9 must end with a $.

      -uso.

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    17. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by tcr · · Score: 1

      Ah, fair enough.... Recalled it vaguely, and googled for the quote!

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    18. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the legacy method of doing OS calls with a call 3. (Small model at least. It's been a long time, thank $DEITY!)

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    19. Re:stuff I remember about Osborne by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Things were a lot slacker back in those days, and it was "Quick and Dirty DOS". How is one guy going to do cleanroom reverse engineering? I suspect that a lot the code was initially just cross-assembled from the CP/M code. If that was still true by the time it became PC-DOS, dunno.

      I had to drag out my Microsystems (CP/M & S-100 journal) magazines. What a trip down memory lane!

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  36. Remember Adam Osborne by __aaowgu6674 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I worked with Mr. Osborne during the late 1980s at Paperback Software (I was the Tech Support Manager). He was a brilliant, charismatic leader with enough ego for four people. A member of MENSA, he had a beautiful house in the Berkeley Hills (spared from the Oakland Hills fire by feet, IIRC), a lovely wife, and he threw marvelous parties.
    Paperback Software was a great idea - cheap versions of popular software sold with paperback manuals for $99.00 or so (I think VP-Expert sold for more). VP-Planner was the Lotus clone, VP-Info was a dBase clone, VP-Graphics was a standalone graphics program, VP-Expert was an expert systems program, and there were a couple more I don't remember off the top of my head.
    He was a good person to work for and with, and always knew how to make a splash and cause a ruckus. And it was fun to go out for Indian food with him, since he spoke Urdu and Hindi.
    Rest in peace, sir.

    1. Re:Remember Adam Osborne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MENSA eats babies! It's true! Babies with bacon!

    2. Re:Remember Adam Osborne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      charismatic leader with enough ego for four people. A member of MENSA,
      This is the norm for MENSA members.. Enough ego for four people.

      that is why their ranks have been dwindling and many of us while passing the test and being offered membership turn it down.

      I do NOT want to be in a group of Egomaniac arseholes. and that is exactly what a MENSA member is.

      Now someone start a MENSA that requires the members to not be jerks.... you'll have something. Focus on accomplishment not the fact that Sally has 3 points over Dan and Steve so her opinion matters more. Bah.

  37. Re:American Icon? Except he was British by rh2600 · · Score: 1

    read the article...

  38. Harkens back to a simpler time by atperry · · Score: 1

    At the ripe old age of 33 I still remember with fondness a time when the computer ecosystem was much broader - more than WinTel. Gosh it was nice to have a choice in platforms (IBM, Commodore, Tandy, Apple, CP/M, etc.). Whatever it's faults, the Osborne was the first mass market portable (that I remember anyway) and the forefather of the Kaypro and the Compaq Portable. Adam Osborne shouldn't be remembered for his blunders but for his innovation. RIP my friend.

    1. Re:Harkens back to a simpler time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you remember and have a fondness for the time when computers sucked.

      When the haze of nostalgia lifts, those TPS reports will need to be finished by 9:30 tomorrow morning.

    2. Re:Harkens back to a simpler time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU KNOW YOU NEED A COVER SHEET ON YOUR TPS REPORTS RICHARD, THAT AIN'T NEW BABY! AND ANOTHER THING, MOTHER-FU...

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    3. Re:Harkens back to a simpler time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah I remember those days. I had a commodore, and one friend had an apple and another a TRS-80 and yet another had an atari. None of us had the same computer and NONE OF US COULD SHARE FILES OR CODE!

      It sucked massively. Things are infinately better today. That kind of nostalgia for completely uninteroperative computing culture just astounds me with it's lack of critical thinking.

    4. Re:Harkens back to a simpler time by atperry · · Score: 1

      Note that I didn't say a better time, just a simpler when there was a lot more variety. I'm not willing to trade my PC of today for an Osborne 1.

      PCs ARE better today, and it's because of the innovations of pioneers like Osborne that they are. So yes, I do have a fondness for that. I also have a fondness for the Woz, Englebart, Metcalf, Kay and the other early giants of the industry. I'm sure you'd say the Difference Engine sucked too because it didn't run Word. Damn Babbage.

  39. Still be alive if he hadn't announced Osbourn 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone's waiting for the new and improved version....

  40. Open Source Osborne by fm6 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As I recall, Osborne first came to public attention by starting a software company that gave away its product. Income was supposed to be derived from selling manuals. The software side of this company didn't work out, but the publishing side found a niche -- which is why there's still an imprint called McGraw-Hill/Osborne.

  41. We had a Zorba by FatalTourist · · Score: 1

    We had (and still have) a Zorba. Same Z80 4Mhz deal, but a much larger 7" screen. Zorba info.
    Personally, I think the Kaypro II looks pretty sweet.

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  42. No reincarnation, then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    After all, when I try to increment to the next iteration, I get:

    error: 'void *' : unknown size

  43. People smarter back then by Iowaguy · · Score: 1

    Now, a guy in Redmond announces a product which is known to basically not work, and people go in droves to buy it....

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    1. Re:People smarter back then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you are living proof of your own post title!

  44. Osbourne 2 Specs by MBCook · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do we know anything about the fabled Osbourne 2? I'd like to know what was supposed to make it so much better than the first, if we know anything. Did the thing even exist on the planning board (other than "the O1 is making money, let's make an O2!") at the time?

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    1. Re:Osbourne 2 Specs by mpthompson · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, it was known as the Vixen. The specs I was able to dig up are:

      Osborne Vixen
      Built in 1984
      Price: $1,300 USD
      CPU: Z80A 4 MHz
      Memory: 64KB RAM
      Interfaces: RS232C, parallel
      Monitor: 7" Amber
      Text Resolution: 80x24
      Graphics Resolution: 640x240
      OS:CP/M 2.2
      FDD: 2 x 360 KB FDD (DS, DD)
      Keyboard: 61 Keys
      Size: (WxDxH) 32cm x 41cm x 16cm
      Weight: 8.2 Kg
      Languages: MBasic
      Options: 10 MB HDD ($1,500 USD)

    2. Re:Osbourne 2 Specs by geekoid · · Score: 1

      took a x86 card so it could run DOS apps, and had a 7"screen(up from 5)

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    3. Re:Osbourne 2 Specs by daver!west!fmc · · Score: 1

      Adam Osborne had shown two new portables to computer-industry journalists. One was the same size as the O1, but had a bigger display. The other was smaller than the O1, and named "Vixen". The press didn't exactly keep these a secret, so word got out and prospective buyers held off hoping for a bigger screen or a smaller portable. Kilobaud Microcomputing magazine, some time later published an article with photos. I'm thinking it may have been the same issue which reported Osborne Computer Corporation's Chapter 11 filing, but don't recall for sure.

      OCC hung on 'til at least 1986, and eventually released the Executive (the O1-sized machine with larger screen), the Osborne 3 (luggable PC-somewhat-compatible), and the Osborne O4 "Vixen".

    4. Re:Osbourne 2 Specs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Osbourne 2 was built and units were shipped. Unfortunately. Just after they started shipping Osbourne 2s, the company announced the Osbourne 3, which was on the drawing boards. That killed sales of the Osbourne 2 and did in the company.

    5. Re:Osbourne 2 Specs by seaan · · Score: 1

      The 1984 date struck me; since that was the year I bought my first PC computer. It was being discontinued (and I got an IBM employee discount thanks to an uncle) - I don't remember what the list price was.

      IBM PC-XT Portable {we called it the luggable}
      Price: ? ($950 discount, with bundled software)
      CPU: 8088 4.7 MHz (+$20 NEC V20)
      Memory: 128KB RAM (+$50 for 640KB)
      Interfaces: none
      Monitor: 9" Amber CGA
      Text: 80x25
      Graphics: 640x240, 16 shades of amber
      OS: IBM DOS 2.0
      FDD: 2 x 360 KB FDD (DS, DD)
      Weight: somewhere under 30 pounds in the canvas carrying case
      Languages: IBM Basic (in ROM)
      Options: 1200 BAUD internal Modem ($500), 20 MB HDD ($600 not IBM)

      Actually, I have to say I ended up with a better computer (plus no need to pay for a Gym membership :-) The low price was because by 1984 it was apparent that the XT Portable was not successfully competing against Compaq.

      PS: You may laugh at the $20 processor upgrade, but it shortened the power-on memory-test from 105 seconds down to 75 seconds. The hard drive was a first generation 3.5" with a thin-film head, and a than speedy 85 ms access time.

  45. We have our finger on the pulse of Slashdot, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    We have our finger on the pulse of Slashdot, Crackmonkey, the Internet, and the world. We know how and when you think, and when you don't. We are in charge, we have the power, and never forget that. But... be nice to us and we'll be nice to you. Usually. Just for reference, here's a list of the people on this list who DON'T SUCK: 1. Mae Ling Mak 2. Kieran John Hervold 3. Open Source Man 4. Nick Moffit The following people *DO* suck: 1. Rick Moen (on and off) 2. Deirdre only-a-moron-would-remember-her-last-name If you're not on either list, that means you're not important enough for me to remember. Sorry. Better luck next time! Good luck to all.

  46. I actually have one by Yogger · · Score: 1

    A friends dad was a junk collector, picked one up from the discards while working on a school as an electrician. I ended up with it, I think it works fine, powers up, screen presents a cursor, but I don't have any disks for the thing.

    1. Re:I actually have one by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      Hurry! you've got 4 days and 18 hours! bidding still at $9.99 at the moment!

      ebay sale I found

  47. Longhorn Conspiracy? by SHEENmaster · · Score: 1

    Are we helping the evil company by saying the DRM, Palladium, etc of the upcoming Windows Longhorn will royally suck more than English class itself!? If so we'd better go back to saying that NT3.5 was perfection and M$ has just continued to screw it up since then.

    In all seriousness, this is a good example of why developers and engineers shouldn't be in marketing. I am always bragging about the features in the unstable version of FlameCalc, but I never stopped to consider that if I was selling this for a profit without free upgrades I'd be hard pressed to keep any customers. (And not just because loops, conditionals, and code objects are still in the unstable branch!)

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  48. Sucks to be you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

    BITCHSLAPPED!

  49. The computer that did Osborne in by mpthompson · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those interested, the Vixen is the system that was pre-announced and caused the demise of Osborne Computer due to the ensuing cash flow crunch.

    Having an Osborne 1 at the time and active in FOG I remember lusting over the Vixen. How times have changed...

    1. Re:The computer that did Osborne in by mpthompson · · Score: 1

      An even more obscure Osborne computer was the Osborne 3 (on the left next to the Vixen prototypes). I saw the system demoed at a FOG meeting as the company was struggling to come out of bankruptcy -- circa ~1984. If I recall correctly, the Osborne 3 was a PC compatible system (8086 processor), ran MS-DOS and at that time it would have been one of the first portables to sport (gasp!) an LCD display.

    2. Re:The computer that did Osborne in by rsclient · · Score: 1

      IIRC -- it wasn't preannouncing the new version that really killed the company. It was trying to make a "frankencomputer" out of the extra Osbourne 1 stock that did them in. It seems that the very pointy-haired exec in charge of clearing out the useless inventory decided that a new case was in order -- and spent most of their cash-on-hand on the new case (you know -- for all the molds and whatnot). He managed to spend more on the case than they could possibly have gotten from selling the computers.

      The "preannouncing" is just the popular myth. But it makes such an engaging -- and short -- marketing story :-)

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    3. Re:The computer that did Osborne in by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      For those interested, the Vixen [obsoleteco...museum.org] is the system that was pre-announced and caused the demise of Osborne Computer due to the ensuing cash flow crunch.

      And for years I referred to killing your cash cow by announcing its replacement before it's ready as "pulling an Osborne".

      I have since found out that marketing types have a term for it: "Overhang". (Though I don't know if they already had the term in the Osborne I eclipsed by Vixen days.)

      RIP, Adam. You will be missed.

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    4. Re:The computer that did Osborne in by Anonymous+Codger · · Score: 1

      As I recall, it was the Executive that was pre-announced and that killed the O1's sales, but I could be wrong. Certainly the Executive was the O1's immediate successor. Similar hardware, even the case was almost identical, but it had a slightly larger (7") screen and a few other improvements.

      I have one sitting in my office waiting for me to stop procrastinating and put it up on eBay.

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  50. American Icon by Doomrat · · Score: 0, Troll

    >Truly an American icon

    Apart from the fact that he moved to America from England AFTER he'd finished University, so he must have been at least 20 years old at the time. He's English by anybody's standards - if you're going to be patriotic, at least use subjects from your own country.

    American patriotism is better summed up by the "patriot" missiles which are constantly shot at allies accidentally.

    1. Re:American Icon by stonewolf · · Score: 1

      You just don't get it do you?

      It is the fact that he MOVED TO THE US to do what he wanted to do that makes him an American icon. All he did in the UK was go to school. He came to the US to do cool stuff. THAT makes him an American heart and soul.

      Reminds me of the people who claim that Einstien wasn't an American. Sheesh, they just don't understand the power of personal choice.

      And yes, he can be a Brit, and an Indian, and a Thai and STILL be an American. In fact, that just makes hime MORE American.

    2. Re:American Icon by Doomrat · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Fine. Everything is American, apart from bad stuff. Silly me.

    3. Re:American Icon by dprovine · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Apart from the fact that he moved to America from England AFTER he'd finished University, so he must have been at least 20 years old at the time. He's English by anybody's standards - if you're going to be patriotic, at least use subjects from your own country.

      By this argument, many of the USA's early Presidents and other statesmen can't rightly be called Americans: they were born British subjects. George Washington was well past 20 when he led the American armies.

      In any case, I believe Osborne's company was incorporated in the USA, and his machines were designed and built here. So it's not an unreasonable association.

      You may be missing an important point about US culture, which is that anyone who comes here and becomes a citizen gets to be American. Suppose you moved to China -- would you ever be regarded as Chinese by the Chinese? Probably not. I don't know if Osborne became a citizen or not, but the point is not just "Americans taking credit for everything". It's that just about anyone can join our little club, and so we think in terms of "anyone who's here must be in".

      Or at least that's how we think at our best. At our worst, we fall far short of that ideal (and many others).

    4. Re:American Icon by geekoid · · Score: 1

      boy, you stretched that a little far just to make your patriot joke.

      Buy pointing out he left England, you only make people relise how smart he was...

      there, now I did it.

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    5. Re:American Icon by klui · · Score: 1

      Article says he became a U.S. Citizen.

    6. Re:American Icon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't have "subjects" you limey prick, we have citizens.

    7. Re:American Icon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apart from the fact that he moved to America from England AFTER he'd finished University, so he must have been at least 20 years old at the time. He's English by anybody's standards - if you're going to be patriotic, at least use subjects from your own country.

      American patriotism is better summed up by the "patriot" missiles which are constantly shot at allies accidentally.

      Dude,

      Comments like that are exactly the reason I left
      the UK for the US 7 years ago. A lot of British
      "subjects" have this amazing ability to look down
      on others from a position of absolute purtity. I
      leave it to your imagination to figure out what
      that means.

      In case you're thinking "good ridance!" - I totally agree with you...

      Long Live the US!

    8. Re:American Icon by Doomrat · · Score: 1

      No, if I were thinking that it would have a double d.

  51. Osborne Adventure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I seem to recall that some brave (foolhardy?) reporter took an Osborne to Afganistan to cover the struggle of the rebels with the USSR. It actually served the mission, but the best part of the article was when the reporter told the Pakistani customs officer that it was a "Hollywood Typewriter" - they sniffed disdainfully and passed him on.

  52. You are a moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or a newbie.

    Your choice.

  53. My favorite Osborne story... by Cuthbert+Calculus · · Score: 3, Funny
    I remember reading that when the Osborne computer company finally went out of business, the bank sent guards to the offices to make sure the (now jobless) employees didn't make off with any of the expensive computer equipment.

    However, nobody bothered to inform the guards that the company manufactured portable computers--a new idea at the time--and many of the employees walked an Osborne right out the door, carrying it like a briefcase. The guards had no idea the company's precious assets were being removed right under their noses.

  54. More fitting than most people know by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

    I believe the Osborne I only had a 64 character wide display ....

  55. Er... by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    Almost word-for-word what I keep hearing about Stephen King.

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  56. Osborne I was substantial for two reasons... by sheldon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The first reason is the obvious portability.

    But the second reason was the Software Bundle. For $1795 you got the computer, but you also received copies of WordStar(with MailMerge!), Supercalc and Microsoft BASIC. At the time the software bundle alone was worth over $1,000.

    That was a new concept in the industry at the time and contributed largely to the intial success of the machine.

    My first experiences with computers was with a CP/M system my father bought as a home computer back in 1982. The Morrow MD-2, it was a competitor to Osborne only it was a more traditional desktop case rather than a portable. Computers were a heck of a lot simpler back then, although not nearly as useful.

    1. Re:Osborne I was substantial for two reasons... by gmkenney · · Score: 1

      Although the Osborne 1 was not my first computer (it was preceeded by the TRS 80 and Commodore 64 in my house), it was easily my early favorite. I bought a pair of them for about $800 each on close-out when my correcting Selectric died and I needed a typer for my business. I still have them up in the attic somewhere. I also added a pair of Gorilla external monitors for $99 each and a 300 baud modem for $150: imagine watching ASCII text transfers crawling across the screen! Long after they were replaced by an IBM PC and then an AT&T (Olivetti) with the blazing fast 8086 chip, my wife continued to use Supercalc to keep the PTA books. My favorite memory was visiting a Bell Labs site where I was working on executive speeches in 1984 and using my tiny Osborne to drive some of the biggest line printers I have ever seen before or since. The dot commands used by WordStar were close to those used by the flavor of VI in those days that I was able to fake my way through transcribing those speeches on terminals as part of that visit. Sorry to hear of Adam Osborne's untimely demise: I think he will be remembered more as a pioneering visionary who changed forever the way personal computers would be sold than one who made a bold and humane marketing error.

  57. Osborne by HBI · · Score: 1

    Jerry Pournelle wrote a nice book about the early CP/M kit computer culture. The hacking nature of it would seem real familiar to those /.'ers steeped in Linux.

    "The User's Guide to Small Computers"

    If you can hunt down a copy, it has a lot of material about Adam Osborne and his company written from a current events perspective back in the early 80's.

    I had a Kaypro 2+ (my first real comp, i'm 33) and it came with a copy of the Pournelle book. Very educational and a lot of fun. True, he still names his computers back then, but Chaos Manor was a lot more poignant and 'with it' in 1984 or so.

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  58. Author and Publisher, Too by Michael_Burton · · Score: 1

    He also wrote some of the books that helped bring people like me up to speed with this strange new thing called the microcomputer. I'm certain that his books taught me some things so well that I no longer remember learning them--it's as if I always knew them.

    For years, the Osborne/McGraw-Hill imprint put out some excellent books. Adam Osborne helped form a computer book division at a major publishing house, at a time when books about computers seemed like very esoteric stuff, indeed.

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    1. Re:Author and Publisher, Too by frozenray · · Score: 1

      I have two dog-eared paperback copies of "An Introduction to Microcomputers" (Volumes 0 and 1) in my bookshelf. Bought them in 1983 while I was an ESL student at UCSD, and what I learned from them is still useful to me 20 years later. This is one of the best investments I ever made in my life, and I have to thank Adam Osborne for it.

      While searching for references on Adam Osborne on Usenet after learning he had died, I found this thread which might be of interest.

      Rest in peace, Adam Osborne.

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  59. Osborne memories by sakusha · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A friend of mine had an Osborne 1, that was some of the first paid work I did with computers, getting his Wordstar and Mailmerge cranking out direct mail, and stuffing envelopes. I can still feel the eyestrain from working on that dinky TV monitor, and the mental strain of trying to do word processing in a 40col environment.
    One of my first real professional gigs was as an Osborne technician. I was a specialist in getting the floppy drives working, which was a lot of work getting the guts assembled and disassembled correctly, it was so jammed together it was a tech's nightmare. And they got bashed around a lot so everyone needed a lot of service on the floppies, which weren't built for that kind of abuse. I still have videotapes of osborne service procedures, they were recorded on some odd video format, IVHS, and we had to buy a special player to use them. Apparently this was some early form of copy protection.
    People loved their osbornes, I had a lot of clients that attached the early Corvus 20Mb and 5Mb hard drives, and just unplugged for portable use. It was nice kit, but Kaypro aggressively moved into low-end CPM portables and ate up that market. When the Compaq came out, it pretty much killed any market for CPM portables.
    What I remember most about Adam Osborne was as a writer. I first learned programming and digital circuitry from Osborne's early microprocessor books, I still have the books and now they're collector's items. I remember buying his business memoir "Hypergrowth" for 99 cents on the remainders shelf, and thinking how ironic that was. Osborne was a model for early information businesses, they aggregated money around people with ideas and the ability to publish them and mass produce. And he was also a parable for the dotcom era's excesses and of drinking too much of one's own koolaid. I still remember Osborne's story of shutting down the production of the Osborne 1. The announcement of the Osborne II killed the prior model sales, causing a premature cash crunch as they tried to dump the last of the old generation. Since that day, the damage caused by prematurely announcing new models and cannibalizing existing sales has been known as "the Osborne effect." Some quantity like $150k of motherboards were left over when the old line was killed, but they'd run out of plastic bezels and case parts, so the $150k of PCBs were left in stock, unused, with no way to turn them into complete machines. Some middle manager got the idea to order new bezels, but the dies had all been discarded. He authorized new production, and by the time his activities came to light, he's spent some insane amount like over a million bucks making new dies so he could make bezels to make those $150k of motherboards into a salable product. Product nobody wanted anyway. Ooops.

  60. American as mindset by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Seems to me much more useful to think of the country someone moves to as how to describe them, that is the kind of person they want to be, or the kind of person they consider themselves. If someone moves FROM Britain TO America, seems like Britain has not offered what they want, that their mind is already American.

    Whatever "American" means ...

    1. Re:American as mindset by vidarh · · Score: 1

      So by your definition I guess he's Indian then, since he moved to India years ago.

  61. History from Bizarro World? by phillymjs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Damn, dude, you better read up on your industry history. I don't know the origin of what you posted about Osborne, but I think you'd have a good shot at finding it with the help of a good proctologist and a flashlight. :-)

    Osborne got his start working for Intel. He wrote the docs for their first microprocessors.

    For a while he had an industry-gossip columns (at least one was called "From The Fountainhead," IIRC) in Interface Age and InfoWorld magazines.

    He self-published a book called An Introduction To Microprocessors. One of the cofounders of IMSAI was so impressed with the book, he struck a deal with Osborne to include a copy with each IMSAI machine sold.

    That IMSAI deal provided the means for Osborne to start his own publishing company, which produced computer books. He would often go to Homebrew Computer Club meetings with boxes full of his books, and leave with empty boxes and wads of cash.

    He eventually sold his publishing company to McGraw-Hill, for millions.

    The money from that deal was what he used to start Osborne Computer. The Osborne I was designed by Lee Felsenstein, another prominent name in the history of the Early Days.

    These Osborne facts and more can be found in the excellent book Fire in the Valley, by Paul Freiberger & Michael Swaine.

    ~Philly

  62. Re:damn! by Aliencow · · Score: 1

    Definitely, especially since it wasn't even voluntary to get two of them in a row :(

  63. Re:KATHLEEN FENT, READ THIS POST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is either Mike or Rajiv. Get a life, losers.

  64. no, whats scary is: by caino59 · · Score: 2, Funny

    we all find humor in the above ;o)

  65. Still have that book too by OffTheRack · · Score: 1

    6502 Assembly Language Programming by Lance Leventhal
    Damn that is a good book. Cannot bring myself to throw it out, although I don't expect to program a 6502 ever again. Glad to see I'm not the only nutty dude keeping one around.

    1. Re:Still have that book too by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Glad to see I'm not the only nutty dude keeping one around.

      I've still got his 8080A/8085 Assembly Language Programming book. Hell, I've still got the computer. My first one, soldered from kit. I really should pitch it, but *sob*, I just can't!

      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  66. The Osborne made me rich(ish)! by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 2, Informative

    Down here in New Zealand, the Osborne was the first really "affordable" CPM personal computer.

    All the other CPM-based microcomputers were priced at well over $5,000 (and that was when a $ was really worth something) so the Osborne's $1,600-$1900 price-tag was a real breakthrough.

    I wrote some debtors/invoicing software designed specifically to work around the limitations of the tiny screen and very limited disk space -- it sold a heap and made me a respectable amount of profit.

    I suspect that the Osborne was responsible for introducing a *lot* of people to the wonderful world of computing -- and the somewhat less wonderful workd of DataStar and CalcStar -- although I still have a soft-spot for WordStar [eyes glaze over, breathes sigh of nostalgia]

    Hell, the fact that the guy behind this machine has died makes me feel real old!

    The only question I have to ask is: Why was it him and not Bill Gates who had to die? :-)

    1. Re:The Osborne made me rich(ish)! by ehiris · · Score: 1

      "Why was it him and not Bill Gates who had to die?"

      Hopefully this way it won't be Bill Gates who monopolizes the afterlife software market.

  67. Re:Wait... Osborne? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    your sig really sucks. bah.

  68. we had one of these back in the day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    my mom used it for word processing.
    there was a tiny green monochrome display built into the box, but it also had output to out monochrome amber monitor. but the printing was the most interesting--we used an existing electric typewriter (smith corona? i don't remember) which was, at the time, miles ahead of any dot-matrix printer. i was impressed, at least. but it was extremely odd to send a document to the typewriter, and have it clacking away for a minute or two with no one at the controls. like a player piano, more or less.

  69. Re:Wait... Osborne? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pop? Goth? Jeez, kids today...

  70. Adam Osborne rides technology's cutting edge... by geoswan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I like to quote something I heard Adam Osborne say:

    "Those who ride technology's cutting edge frequently find themselves sacrificed upon its blade."

    Ironic, maybe. That was before the Osborne computer company went bust. So he knew the dangers of blazing a trail.

    Wellvis said:

    He was a brilliant, charismatic leader with enough ego for four people. A member of MENSA, he had a beautiful house in the Berkeley Hills (spared from the Oakland Hills fire by feet, IIRC), a lovely wife, and he threw marvelous parties.

    I can verify the brilliant part. I heard him speak a couple of times. And I can verify the marvelous parties too.

    I got taken to a party he hosted in his suite at a computer show in October 1979. He was there to speak, and his publishing company had a booth. I talked with a fabulously, memorably, beautiful, friendly gal at this party, one of his employees. All three of the workers from his publishing company that he brought with him were absolutely stunning. Jon Draper (aka Captain Crunch) and Ted Nelson (another American icon, the guy who invented hypertext.) were also at that party.

    I introduced myself to him when he was speaking at another computer event at York University in Toronto, about eight months later. (He blew me off. Well big deal.) But the thing that struck me was that he seemed to have lost about thirty pounds. He had been lean and handsome before. By the summer of 1980 he looked ill.

    That would be about fourteen years before this mysterious, long illness. What a horrible way to go. I've got a morbid curiousity about it.

  71. He was also a publisher and writer by maya · · Score: 1

    Before the Osborne I, before the Sol 20, before any microcomputer except maybe the Altair and the Imsai, Adam wrote and published a book called, iirc, "An Introduction to the Microprocessor", which was one of the more influential books in my life. It was really an introduction to computing technology in general, using the 8080 (or maybe Z80) microprocessor as a model. It got into subjects like binary number systems, how the registers and the CPU in a microprocessor chip work together, how memory is accessed, and how computers do basic arithmetic. It was very clearly written and, to me, incredibly enlightening. It was the combination of Adam's book and Ted Nelson's "Computer Lib/Dream Machines" upside-down twofer that stimulated me to buy a Sol 20 that a friend had assembled from a kit and start learning Assembler.

    Richard

    --

    Everything possible to be believ'd is an Image of Truth - Wm. Blake

  72. Re:Sad news ... Stpehn King dead at 55 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stpehn King dead at 55

    Oh no! Not Stpehn King the famous typing error?

    Say it isn't true!

    What a sad day indeed :-)

  73. This what the comps look like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Osborne 1
    http://images.google.com.sg/images?q=Osborne1+& ie= ISO-8859-1&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search

  74. Osborne 1 pics, movies and manuals by /dev/kev · · Score: 2, Informative

    In case anyone's interested in seeing more of the Osborne 1 itself, you might like to check out my Osborne 1 site, which has LOTS of pictures of the unit and various associated paraphenalia, some small mpeg movies of it in operation (including the great "disk grind" sound), and scans of the O1 Technical Manual, Field Service Manual, and a few others (though not the User's Manual, which is very large). And yes, it still works, although I've lost a few disks to bit rot... I get the feeling I'll have to dust it off after work and give it a spin, just for old time's sake.

    --
    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
    1. Re:Osborne 1 pics, movies and manuals by Jouster · · Score: 1

      The named pictures at the bottom of the list give 403 errors.

      Let me know if you need any more pics, or find a disk-copy solution; my Osborne is a happy little machine indeed, and I have all the original disks....

      Dan

    2. Re:Osborne 1 pics, movies and manuals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      BTW whoever took the pictures of this thing was bored as crap!

      There have to be 200...and he takes detailed pics of individual keys...I mean WTF!? I just want to see it running!

  75. Very basic power supply answer by ovapositor · · Score: 1

    Well since you asked....

    I suspect that the old supplies are using simple linear components. The typical design calls for voltage regulation to be done by an active element. This causes some(a bunch) waste as heat disipation.

    Newer technique: switching power supplies. The output is actually across a capacitor. It's voltage is sampled and if it diverges from the desired, the pulse width of the square wave it is fed by is modulated. Essentially, you give the capacitor more charge if the voltage drops. Capacitors tend to resist a change in voltage across them. There is less heat lost using this scheme since the pulse is either on or off.

    1. Re:Very basic power supply answer by Sarcazmo · · Score: 1

      I never thought that the power supply might be linear. I have a feeling it is not. If it is, it has good overload protection, I've grounded it a couple times on accident and it shuts off nicely. I may crack it open one day and see for sure though.

    2. Re:Very basic power supply answer by jmitchel!jmitchel.co · · Score: 1

      I'm certain they were using a switching PS. I had mine appart a couple of times and I don't remember there being the requisite size transformer or capacitor to do the trick. Also, since I believe the fan was a late addition, and the ventilation was otherwise rather poor, the heat problem would have been overwhelming.

      Finally, I'm no EE, but I never saw a linear PS in any of the PCs from that era that was either small, nor light enough to work in one of these machines. Yes, they seem big an clunky now, but the O1 was remarkably small for its day. They did burn a little space with their disk-storage bays underneath each of the floppies, but otherwise the case was packed pretty tight.

    3. Re:Very basic power supply answer by Jouster · · Score: 1

      And the oddest part about those disk-storage bays is the fact that you couldn't use them.

      The case around them was plastic, so if you put any disks in there, they'd be fried by EM, spare read/write charge from the disk head above it, anything at all....

      Later models (and competitors) used steel.

      Jouster

  76. my first computer... by dotslashbin · · Score: 1

    Yeah we had a PC, but this was the first computer I had unrestricted access to. The first I programmed on.... It was a great "portable" computer. And such great ASCII games! Nice work Mr. Osborne!

  77. Recent convert, but loyal by yesacs · · Score: 1

    My uncle gave me an Osborne for Christmas this year, and I think it is great. He used to run a software library over usenet back in the day for Osborne software, CP/M+ and stuff if my memory serves me right. He has owned a bunch of Osbornes over the years, Osborne1's and Execs, and even got ones for his kids for college. The one I have my aunt used to write a book, which I consider quite a feat with its 5" screen. I love old(er) compters and this is really an amazing peice of history. The one i have would actually be in a museum right now, but my uncle upgraded it. Thank God he did because I get to keep it now. It's too bad the company fell apart. My uncle showed me the promotional packet for the Vixen, the machine that killed the company, and i can see why everyone was so excited about it. It would be interesting to see the state of portable computers if Osborne was still making computers

  78. Ah yes, I once owned a couple Osborne 1's! by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    Actually, I didn't buy them when they were new. I believe I owned a 286 12Mhz or 16Mhz computer already at the time I made my Osborne purchase.

    I was in a used computer store, looking for interesting stuff, when I stumbled across one.
    I believe I purchased it for around $175, but the store owner threw in a second Osborne 1 in rather beat-up condition as part of the deal. (Supposedly, it was so I'd have spare parts for the good one if I ever needed them - but most likely, it was just an opportunity for them to get a hard-to-sell item off their shelves.)

    The amusing thing I remember was a 3rd. party accessory that came with the unit; a magnifying glass on a metal rod that velcro'd to the top of the case. With the magnifier sticking out in front of the little screen, it made it a little easier to work with the system.

    I recall it having an internal modem (300 baud, I believe), and I was lucky to find a BBS in town that ran and supported CP/M systems - so I downloaded a bunch of freeware and shareware, 90% or so of which worked properly.

    Even though it was already a discontinued product by the time I bought mine, I got a fair amount of use out of it. As big as it was ("luggable" we called it, as opposed to "portable"), it was still pretty cool for the time. (The only thing cooler I remember was my friend's Corona portable 286 computer - and those puppies were expensive, and just as big as my Osborne.)

  79. 64 years? by redcane · · Score: 1

    I just want to make 2^8

  80. I must admit that it has surprised me. by midnightthunder · · Score: 1

    Among the many old computers tucked away in my garage are a few of the Osborne Ones that I got plenty of mileage out of in their time. The portability of this suitcase sized computer allowed me to do in the field what I nowadays use a laptop for. Heck, I was using it to program specialty equipment. Those machines don't owe me anything.

    And I remember Adam Osborne. He was a lot of fun to be around. After the computer company went under, he got involved in computer books. Osborne/McGraw Hill if I recall correctly.

    He shall be missed.

  81. Mea Culpa by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Nope, not 64, my meory is failing :-(, 50 or 52, I see from various other places. Sorry about that!

  82. Adam, thanks for all you have done by stox · · Score: 1

    Damn, for such an arrogant SOB, Adam sure made some incredible contibutions to the industry. Wonderfully informative publications, portable computing, the choice of Microsoft and Non-Microsoft Basic. A true visionary. We will sadly miss him. His orignal machine was one of the first to provide true value to the masses in computing.

    --
    "To those who are overly cautious, everything is impossible. "
  83. AO by evilpenguin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I had Osborne's Introduction to Microprocessors, and it is still a book a lot of today's "programmers" (who have never written a line of assembly code) could benefit from reading. A later book specifically on the Z80 is also a great read. They still hold a hallowed place on my shelf along with a couple of books by Rodney Zaks ("Programming the Z80" and his CP/M programming book).

    I had an Osborne 1. It was the first computer my old man and I bought. (We built our first from scratch, doing S-100 bus wirewrap boards). My first significant piece of programming was the BIOS for CP/M for our homebrewed hardware. Couldn't have done it without Osborne and Zaks (southgoing, or northgoing I always wondered).

    I also seem to remember a book about the collapse of Osborne that was essentially a "prequel" to the dot-bomb era. It was called "Hypergrowth" or something like that. Anyone remember that book?

    Osborne's rep was gone after that.

    He's an important figure, but more for fueling the hobbyist movement which really created the microprocessor market. Nobody took these devices seriously until people started making home computers, and that was largely a homebrew phenomenon for a brief shining moment.

    That feeling is what Linux had that the other "free" OSes didn't. The hobbyist mentality. It fosters creativity. Between IBM and Microsoft it had almost ceased to exist. Hobbyist, entrepreneur, establishment, repeat. I wonder what it will be tomorrow.

    They were heady days. Signetics catalogs, Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar, Dr. Dobbs Journal of Computer Calesthenics and Orthodontia (Running Light Without Overbyte) -- yes, that's what the magazine used to be called --, Heathkits (God! Heathkits! Does anyone else here remember the H11? Sure, they had the CP/M machines, but they had the kit clone of the PDP-11! Complete with paper tape mass storage!)

    Of course I wouldn't want to go back. But sometimes, just sometimes, I miss the chomp of the sprockets and the subtle squeak of the pinch rollers. I miss front panels and "LOAD" switches.

    When my dad died, I came across our homebrew S100 bus Z80 machine. Sadly, the electrolytic capacitors had leaked and ruined several of the boards. Thomas Wolfe was right: You can't rewind to load point again. He didn't put it exactly that way, but close enough.

    Adam Osborne was an imprudent maverick. He was an egomaniac whose company failed. But, damn! It was fun while it lasted. I, too, say rest in peace.

    1. Re:AO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Circuit Cellar is still around: circuitcellar.com

    2. Re:AO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen brother, I had a friend that could read paper tape without a cheat sheet. I never had a s-100 machine (OS-1 was my first) but I sure played with them as the that was what all the experienced folks had when I got my mine in 1982. Imagine, with 2 - 8" drives you could have 2.4 megs online...now you are playing with power! ;-)

    3. Re:AO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget you could double your storage for the price of a paper hole punch!

    4. Re:AO by evilpenguin · · Score: 1

      Yes it is, but Steve Ciarcia isn't.

  84. Portable sewing machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had to get my Osborne 1 out of our building late one night. Security stopped me, wanting to know what I was carrying. Rather than tell them it was a computer and having to go through considerable hastle, I just told them it was a portable sewing machine. No problem.

  85. "Osborne Effect" is wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The cliche about Adam is that he preannounced his DOS followon machine and this caused sales of his current product to fail, driving the company into bankruptcy. I was there and saw what happened, and that's not what happened.

    The proof is this. First, everybody with a CPM machine was promising a future DOS version--that's what the market demanded. Everybody. Adam warned that his DOS machine wouldn't ship for at least six months, and would be more expensive than his price-sensitive $1795 Osborne 1, so waiting for that model didn't cause his super-price-sensitive customers to stop buying the existing available cheap model. That just doesn't make sense.

    Instead, a month after his "preannouncement" (during which month the machine continued to sell at the rate of 10,000 units per month), the company (now run by the replacement team of "professionals" Adam had brought in) announced the Osborne 2 -- The Osborne Executive. It was this machine which killed the company.

    Reason 1: It was priced $200 more, at $1995, not cheaper (as the tiger team working on the Vixen wanted). THe new executive team realized that at $1795 the company wasn't making money, so they priced it higher hoping brand would carry the day. The O2 had a 7 inch screen instead of the old 5 inch--but the Kaypro, priced at $1595, had a 9 inch screen. The O2 had CPM 3.0--which meant zero to Osborne customers (and until and unless software was written to it, would never mean anything), so that was valueless. It also included upgraded software--which the first-time-buyer Osborners didn't know what it meant, so THAT didn't justify the price. Finally, the O2 looked EXACTLY like the O1--so with the lid closed, you couldn't tell your $1995 model from the cheaper $1795 model--no racing stripe, no new color, no nothing.

    When the O1 was selling for $200 more than the Kaypro and for a smaller screen, Osborne outsold Kaypro because the Osborne brand was so strong. But when the premium was raised to $500--the price-sensitive market just took a dive. The month following the announcement of the O2--April of that year--O1 sales went from 10,000 a month to 2,000. In May, when the O2 shipped, sales dropped to zero.

    Zero.

    In case you think this was a lagging case of the Osborne Effect, the final proof comes in the fact that Kaypro sales doubled in May; and stayed higher than the Osborne's old record for the next year. This despite the fact that Kaypro also announced, and eventually shipped, a DOS machine. Funny, no Osborne effect then!

    Osborne was killed by management who ignored the super-price-sensitivity of this new market, and crashed so fast -- the company declared bankruptcy in September -- that there was no time to react. They shut the rockets off, and cratered before they knew what they were doing.

    Adam almost went to his grave thinking he had killed his own company; he even said so in his book. But a year after that book came out, I talked to him and made my argument, as given above, and of course he lit up. Even he hadn't realized the cause of the demise of the company he had just turned over to "professional" management....

    The final reason the Osborne Effect is unreal is that even in the hightech business we are all in, this case is unique--announcing new versions is done all the time, and while sales often slows, nobody's company keels over from it. It's a fact of life in a fast-paced electronics world.

    So the next time somebody tells you that hoary old cliche about how Adam Osborne killed his company by preannouncing his new product--tell them they are completely wrong. If the Osborne 2 had been a $1595 machine to compete head to head with the Kaypro on its own ground--Kaypro would have died, and Osborne would have lived to fight again for another year.

    1. Re:"Osborne Effect" is wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      From one annonymous coward to another - thank you for setting the story straight. I am sure the kindness you paid Mr. Osborne will come back to you down the road (if not already).

      Those days were filled with many new "revolutionary" designs like the HP150, DEC Rainbow and others which were destined to fail in a world going DOS. I recall that HP was going to introduce a true DOS version of their HP110 Portable Plus, but a certain "professional" manager nixed the idea from the division and soon thereafter became Apple's problem... which was corrected by them several years after that.

      It is a very rare circumstance when an entrepreneurial visionary can go on to manage successfully in a corporate world. That transition between start up and going concern is a very difficult hurdle for most to overcome.

      It is sad to see another legendary pioneer of computing leave us all too soon.

    2. Re:"Osborne Effect" is wrong by kcurrie · · Score: 1


      Those days were filled with many new "revolutionary" designs like the HP150, DEC Rainbow and others which were destined to fail in a world going DOS.
      Actually the Rainbow COULD run DOS. I had one with DOS 2.10 on it. It also ran CP/M of course.
      I got my Rainbow from a prof at college who was going to throw it out. This was around 1990 or so. I wanted it because it functioned as a dumb terminal (I had a modem plugged into it), and it had the same DEC VT100 type keyboard that I used at school for doing C programming on the VAX. It was great having cut and paste buttons that worked! :-)

      The coolest thing though, was that it came with a working 300 baud acoustic coupler modem. I've still got the modem-- great conversation piece, but the machine was long ago junked.

      --
      -- I speak only for myself.
    3. Re:"Osborne Effect" is wrong by sakusha · · Score: 1

      Yes, you're right, the preannouncement wasn't really what killed the company. I commented about this somewhere else in the thread.
      Osborne gave a lot of latitude to his management, perhaps more than he should have. Like that bit about spending $1Million to buy parts to finish $150k of old motherboards into computers. A few "small" blunders like this as you're cash-poor and transitioning to a new product line, and your "professional" management have driven your company into the ground.
      Other companies of that day, like Kaypro, weren't much better. A lot of them had trouble managing growth. I remember when Kaypro discovered they had several million dollars in unreturned service parts sitting in dealerships like mine. They put out an urgent call to clear out all parts destined for return to their parts depot, IIRC they collected over $10M and the incoming parts arrived in such volume they had to put up tents in the parking lot to sort them all out. Turned out that a huge percentage of Kaypro's capital was tied up in just unrepaired parts. Ooops.

  86. You may have been right. by MarkusQ · · Score: 1
    Just for a minute there I thought this was one of those "(name) dead at (age)" trolls you always see when you browse at -1!

    You may have been right. At least, I've not been able to find any other mention of his death on CNN, CBS, MSNBC, NPR, etc.--in fact, the only on-line reference to his death that I have been able to find is the ./ article and the the Yahoo story it mentions (by following the link); I'm not even sure how you'd find the link if it wasn't provided, since it doesn't seem to be showing up on the main pages. I'm not saying that he isn't dead, I'm just saying I wouldn't recomend burying him without a tad more evidence.

    -- MarkusQ

    1. Re:You may have been right. by Pathwalker · · Score: 1

      here's a mention from reuters.

      He was buried last tuesday in Kodiakanal India.

  87. Re:American Icon? Except he was British by samhalliday · · Score: 1

    indian (colonial british) actually... RTFA!

  88. My first computer was an Osborne I by beej · · Score: 4, Informative
    Rather, my parents' first computer was. I learned to program it as a kid before moving on to the c64.

    POKE 61440, 127

    That'll put a dim rectangle in the upper left corner of the 52x24 screen. Too bad no one ever asks me that in an interview these days...

    As I sit here, I hold in my hand the Osborne I User's Reference Guide. I don't have the computer, but I kept the book for fun. It reads like an old school user's guide, with complete references for BASIC, and a chapter titled "IEEE-488 Implementation". Very useful for users.

    Some specs:

    SCREEN SIZE:

    • 32 lines of 128 characters maintained in RAM
    • 24 lines of 52 characters shown on screen
    • dim, normal, underlined video supported [through bank switching for dim/brite--there was a bank of shadow RAM under video RAM...underline was just bit 7]
    • 32 block graphic characters predefined
    • uppercase/lowercase text display [Whooo!]
    • video emulates TeleVideo terminal
    • external video available via edge connector

    DISK CAPACITY:
    Double-Density:

    • 200K bytes per diskette
    • 185K bytes of data space using CP/M
    • 40 tracks of information
    • 5 physical sectors each track (soft-sectored)
    • 1024 bytes per sector
    • 40 logical sectors to CP/M (128 bytes each)
    • 1K-byte extents maintained by CP/M
    • 3 reserved system tracks
    Single Density:
    • 100K bytes per diskette
    • 92K bytes of data space using CP/M
    • 40 tracks of information
    • 10 physical sectors each track (soft-sectored)
    • 256 bytes per sector
    • 20 logical sectors to CP/M (128 bytes each)
    • 2K-byte extents maintained by CP/M
    • 3 reserved system tracks (See notes, page 760.)

    SERIAL PORT:

    • 1200- or 300-baud, software-selectable
    • 2400- or 600-baud, jumper-selectable
    • uses 6850 chip, all parameters memory-mapped
    • standard female DB-25 connector provided

    IEEE-488 PORT:

    • standard IEEE-488 implementation
    • may be configured as Centronics parallel port
    • 26-pin edge connector provided

    I'll stop typing now before I get to the memory map... :)

  89. Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..Perhaps they should've consulted the British Intelligence Ministry before assigning pilots to that Tornado.

    It helps when you realize that, yes, you have to set your IFF system correctly, or you're not considered an ally.

  90. Re:American Icon? Except he was British by x0n · · Score: 1

    Except he was born in Thailand.

    - Ois

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  91. CP/M boxes by pork_spies · · Score: 1

    Is there anybody out their still using them (IIRC the Osborne was one). Their used to be lots in the UK (Amstrads) - but I was wondering if anyone out there was still using them (ie any CP/M machine)?

    1. Re:CP/M boxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am sure there are some hobbiest that still use CP/M systems. CP/M has pretty much died. It didn't even make it big into the embedded space like MS-DOS/OS-9/Linux has.

    2. Re:CP/M boxes by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      I am working on developing for CP/M-86 4.1 ;)

      No, seriously, I have figured out how to leeto-haxor Turbo C++ 1.01 into building for CP/M. Unfortunately, I have to roll the entire library myself :(

      -uso.

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    3. Re:CP/M boxes by PiratePTG · · Score: 1
      >Is there anybody out their still using them

      Yes! I still use my Kaypro 10 daily as both a terminal for my Altos Unix box and for doing the logging duties for my Amateur Radio station.

      I also recently bought a couple of Kaypro 10's from eBay, so I have spare parts, just in case....

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  92. when i pass over by Miguel+de+Icaza · · Score: 1

    my funeral will be massive. a procession of a million geeks from around the world will follow my coffin. Bill gates will gfive an eulogy. Its gonna be frickn marverlous. When i get to heaven i'm either gonna take over or set up a new one :^)

    love, peace & light my followers

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  93. Re:American Icon? Except he was British by aurelian · · Score: 1

    except that he naturalised (I guess that should be naturalized) as a US citizen, so he was American, like Einstein.

  94. Except he wasn't.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Truly an American Icon"..... ....except he wasn't American, of course !

    Like so many innovators / inventions throughout the years, he's got wrongly labelled as an American.

    You are right though - definitely an innovator and great influence of his time.

    1. Re:Except he wasn't.... by Lester67 · · Score: 1

      He was an American. By choice, no less.

  95. and here I was just gonna troll about Iraq! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Allright, the trolls have their very own editor now! (And one that has a basic grasp of English speling and grammar!)

    Welcome to the dark side, Chrisd!

  96. the humpty dance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is ya chance for doin tha hump

  97. Obsorne's First Rule of Computing by k1v1n · · Score: 1

    I owned two Osborne's. Great computers!

    To this day I still tell people about Osborne's first rule of computing, "When in doubt, do something!"

  98. Indeed, by both definitions :-) by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

    I did not know it, but he was born in India. I guess the joke's on both of us :-)

  99. my second computer was the Osborne I by hopeless+case · · Score: 1

    My dad bought it for me when I was a junior in high school in 1983, and Osborne went out of business a month later.

    I'm 36 now.

    I spent many delightful hours programming in basic on it, and then took a programming course at the University of Pittsburgh where I learned pascal (my high school had a thing with the university for intersted students.). Man I worked hard unlearning my bad BASIC habits and learning how to think in Pascal. I bought Turbo Pascal so I could practice from home and I also used a 300 baud modem with the Osborne to connect to the computers at the University to run my finished pascal programs.

    I used the Osborne for pascal programming till around 1987, when I bought a leading edge PC.

    The Osborne was a great computer for its time and it was there for me to practice programming at a critical time (end of high school and beginning of collage).

    Thank you, Adam, for creating it. You will be greatly missed.

  100. More a writer than a businessman by YeOldeGnurd · · Score: 1
    Adam Osbourne was a well known technical writer before he decided to enter the computer business. He wrote programming guides for the Z80, 6800, and 8080 processors, among others. Also 3GL language guides for CBASIC and others. He also wrote a book called Hypergrowth, about the rise and fall of Osborne Computer.

    It's sad to see him go, but I do have to say that at the height of his game he was one arrogant SOB, and proud of that too. I saw him speak on a panel discussion in 1982 with Bill Gates and a few other folks. The panel was about the future of personal computing, sponsored by the now defunct Boston Computer Society. Adam stole the show, brashly predicting that Osborne Computers would dominate the industry. I can't help thinking of that evening as my personal "Dead Zone" moment, as I got the opportunity to chat with Bill Gates for several minutes after the show. But history can't be changed post facto, so I can't dwell on missed opportunities...

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  101. His "portable" coffin needs 20 pallbearers ... by peter303 · · Score: 1

    and the epitaph on his tombstone a magnifying glass to read. A little bit of morbid humor here, but "portable" back circa 1980 meant about 30 pounds and a five inch CRT screen. Still in that era when a PC cost almost as much as car or 2-3 months salary, many people couldn't afford to have more than one at the home and office. And portability meant the whole setup quickly assembled into a single package for transport.

  102. define an American Icon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An American Icon does not mean the person(s) must be a born US citizen. It doesn't mean he had bbq cookouts and enjoy a hamburger and fries.

    Heck, Einstein's an American Icon, but he's from Germany. Von Braun, from Nazi Germany era, and he's an American Icon (led to the first man on the moon, saw his dream come true).

    An Englishman can be proud of their English Icons b/c he's born an Englishman and was brought up the English way. An American is essentially someone who fulfills his dreams on a land that recognizes him for his accomplishments. The US has always been a land of immigrants.

    And the patriot missle comment, well maybe you need to be at the front lines and understand what your words mean to the soldiers fighting this war.

  103. In a Bears Ass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Poor dude, he died in a town called Kodiak-anal married to a woman named bur-dick?!?

  104. Ahhh sweet memories. by jbaltz · · Score: 1

    Sitting in my parent's house, in what used to be my bedroom closet, lies dormant the Osborne 1 I purchased with $2000 of bar-mitzvah money in 1982. (And now I date myself.)

    Like another poster above, I spent many hours programming it in CBASIC, Pascal, and FORTH. (The FORTH interpreter was a great programming environment at the time. JRT Pascal wasn't so bad, either, but I didn't have much to compare it to.)

    I did all my freshman year papers in Wordstar using that and my good ol' C-Itoh printer (still in use by Mom for her packet radio stuff, I think). Then someone introduced me to TeX, and I haven't opened up the thing since...

    What? Oh, sorry, was just daydreaming about The Good Old Days there. Did I ever tell you about the eight-hour marathon TRS-80 programming stories back in 1977?...

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  105. Never heard of 'im either.... by x-guru · · Score: 1

    ...but I intend to follow in his footsteps: when I die, my age will also be a power of 2.
    Ahhhhh...if I can make it past 64, I'll be at least 128 or mybe 256! x--

  106. A lot of us are dying young by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are dying young, cuz we are out of shape, we must put an end to this and get in shape. Watch what you eat, work out, cut your body fat down and remain very fit. Workout is not for sports types/jocks, workout is a life style.

  107. Fare thee well, Adam.... by PiratePTG · · Score: 1
    My first computer was an IMSAI 8008 and an ASR-33, but had a friend who had an Osborne. I remember that tiny little screen and remember wishing that *I* had a tiny little screen, instead of rolls and rolls of paper. I later bought a Kaypro 10, because the Osborne company was history.... I still have that Kaypro and still use it for Amateur Radio....

    Ahhhh, those were the days.... The pioneers of the computer industry are starting to get old and forgotten. Rest well, Adam. You made your mark, and to some of us, you will never be forgotten.

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  108. So, how old is Billy-boy, anyways? by zrk · · Score: 1

    He's in his 40s, right?

  109. Re:Farewell, Osborne computers by netringer · · Score: 1
    But a few of my extended family members still have Osborne 1s in their basements/attics/garages.
    My original Osborne 1 is in my computer room. I haven't tried booting it lately, but I *think* it'll work if all of my floppies haven't lost critical bits.

    I have an Osborne Executive (the promised one that killed existing sales and thus the company) and a Kaypro 4 bought at firesale closeout prices well after the PC era. Both were very useful in my business at the time. There was also the Osborne Vixen, which was an Osborne One in a package less than half the size. Those were almost all sold by the contracted overseas manufactuter in the years after Osborne Corporation was gone.
    The article is correct, it's almost exactly like a portable sewing machine.
    The original Osborne One case WAS a sewing machine case. The computer was built into the cover and the keyboard was fitted in the what would have been the base of the sewing machine. The sewing machine was used "keyboard tray" down.
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  110. it was 1983 by LifesABeach · · Score: 0

    i remember calling mr. osborne's machine a 'lug-a-long', because its power supply was very heavy. :)

    an osborne computer was used as the down-payment on my first house. it ran on cpm, using dbase ii, word star, 1200 baud external modem, an external 5Meg hard drive(nick named the 'corvis wine-ing shoe box because of its size and noise that it made when powered up), 16K-RAM, calc star, the printer was a 9-pin dot matrix, and c-basic. i remember then that 'menu driven systems', and 'modular' programming were emerging methods of good programming style. both seller, and myself thought that we both had a good deal.

  111. The thing is that it wiorked ... by rewinn · · Score: 1

    ... what I remember about the Oz 1 is that it worked. You turned it on & with very little wait, away you went. Today: I drink too coffee during boot-up/pre-crash while waiting for marginally improved word processing. All the Oz 1 really needs to become competitive again is a text-only browser & to lose 25 lbs. But ain't that true of most of us?

  112. I remember the Osbourne by TechnoGrl · · Score: 1

    I never knew Adam of course but I fondly recall his computer. I was a student at OSU at the time and I remember going weekly into the local computer store and gawking at the Osborne there trying to figure out some way to work up enough money to buy one. Twin disk drives (floppy 360Ks WOW!), a computer that you could actually pick up and walk away with !(something I fanatsized about at that computer store) There were no IBM PC's out at the time ( though I had a Bell and Howell Black Apple at home) so Adam's computer was the latest and greatest out there.

    The man was a pioneer of the comoputer age and deserves to be remembered.

    Pax Requium Adam.

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  113. As requested in his will... by merlyn · · Score: 1

    ... he'll be buried in a luggable coffin, with a small amber screen at one end.

  114. Sad by Flave · · Score: 1

    He started some software company after Osborne Computers failed. I went to Comdex that year and I saw him standing behind a little table in an obscure corner of the show floor, peddling his wares all alone. I remember thinking how sad that he had fallen so far. Still, he flew high for a while and that's more than most of us will ever say.

    Be with God.

  115. Re:Farewell, Osborne computers by Jerrry · · Score: 1

    The original Osborne One case WAS a sewing machine case. The computer was built into the cover and the keyboard was fitted in the what would have been the base of the sewing machine. The sewing machine was used "keyboard tray" down. The thing that struck me the most about the Osbourne 1 was the screen. At 4", it was very small and hard to read unless you practically glued your eye to it. The first Kaypro machines had much nicer screens.

  116. Re:Farewell, Osborne computers by netringer · · Score: 1
    The thing that struck me the most about the Osbourne 1 was the screen. At 4", it was very small and hard to read unless you practically glued your eye to it. The first Kaypro machines had much nicer screens.
    Right. The alleged 4 inches was early monitor spec hype. The text area is more like 2 1/2 inches diagonal.

    In those early days I hooked up with fellow Osborne users and we banged away on our machines. In an hour or so we all had red, bleary eyes from using that tiny screen. But as the resident Osborne guru with us said then, "Right. My Osborne has a tiny built-in screen. ...and just what size screen is built-in on your computer?" In those days there weren't any others. Compaq came along with a PC compativble version with a 9 inch screen many years later.

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  117. Updated BIOS history (with reference) by Moses+Lawn · · Score: 1

    Actually, Compaq did it first, in 1982, but kept it to themselves. Phoenix did their own in 1994 that they licensed to the world. So yeah, you're right, it was actually Phoenix who really started the true compatibles off.

    BTW, this and lots of other good info about the history of the PC, Bill Gates and Microsoft comes from "Gates", by Stephen Manes and Paul Andrews. Very interesting book, great, evenhanded job of describing it all. The pictures are especially interesting - Bill Gates doing deals with IBM and Radio Shack, looking about 16; Steve Ballmer in a plaid jacket in 1987, pointing his finger at the audience like a carney barker ("Do anything to get the business, get the business, get the business!"). Some things never change.

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    1. Re:Updated BIOS history (with reference) by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      1984, I think you mean ;) By 1994 we were saturated with clones.

      BTW, the Tandy 1000 machines I have had used Phoenix BIOSes.

      -uso.

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    2. Re:Updated BIOS history (with reference) by Moses+Lawn · · Score: 1

      Aw man, I first typed "1982" as "1992", caught it and thought "Oh that was dumb. Let's not make *that* mistake." Sigh. Why do I bother to preview again?

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  118. I used to sell these by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 1

    I had one that I lugged around for work, it was heavy as hell (all steel) compared to the Compaq luggable (all plastic with aluminum frame).

    I also sold these things for a while and worked on them too. Come to think of it, I never really worked on one. I knew how but never saw one break. CPM was freaky being that I got my start on IBM DOS 1.0
    I never could get used to the HDD being drive A !!

    Damn, 64 is too young to die. What a shame.
    I will always have strong memories of the Osborne, it was one of the first. I wish I still had that old box. I could prop it up on top of my Columbia just for old times sakes. I used to play Zork on an amber Taxan monitor on the Columbia.. Damn, those were the days!!

    (note to moderators, need to add "trippy flashback" to mod list..)

  119. I have a working Osborne I by LateAtNight · · Score: 1

    I learned on the Osborne I. I still have it in storage and the last time I tried, it still works.

  120. Screwed spellings of places ! by rjha94 · · Score: 1

    well sure thing yahoo got the place's name in south india all wrong! The village is KodaiKanal and its near to chennai (Madras).

    I don;t know if i can now believe Yahoo with spelling of places any longer!

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