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Beer-Coated CDs are Optical Biocomputers

commodoresloat writes "A DJ and scientist in Melbourne whose research is in the area of communication through biological cells, serendipitously created an 'optical biocomputer' when he spilled beer on his CDs and left them over night. The resulting fungus that formed distorted the sound of the CDs in interesting and meaningful ways. Here's some of his research, and some media samples which include mp3s of the distorted music." Yes, the term biocomputer is used in the loosest sense.

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  1. This is an Evil Plot by RIAA blackhats by trolman · · Score: 5, Funny
    Jones says that he has yet to damage any of his discs or players with his pioneering work, but warns that the technique does crash CD players on computers because the software cannot cope.

    This is an obvious attempt by RIAA blackhats to get everyone to buy new CDs while simultaneously destroying computer CD-RW. Time to grep for a good lawyer.

    1. Re:This is an Evil Plot by RIAA blackhats by phalse+phace · · Score: 1

      Screw the computer CD-RW. It's the beer that's important. Sweet delicious beer. *Mmmm... beer*

      And what would happen if we didn't have anymore beer? As Homer Simpson said, "I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer."

      It's the RIAA's way to get us to kill one another, thereby reducing the number of file swappers.

    2. Re:This is an Evil Plot by RIAA blackhats by afidel · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just use the stuff packaged by Annheiser Bush or any of the other major US beverage distributors. It's not really beer so no harm done.

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    3. Re:This is an Evil Plot by RIAA blackhats by allanweber · · Score: 2, Funny

      How do you get the idea to put a CD covered with fungus in your cd-player in the first place????

    4. Re:This is an Evil Plot by RIAA blackhats by troc · · Score: 3, Funny

      By drinking beer of course :)

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    5. Re:This is an Evil Plot by RIAA blackhats by azaroth42 · · Score: 5, Funny


      And the stuff distributed on CDs by the RIAA is not really music either ... A perfect match! :)

      --Azaroth

    6. Re:This is an Evil Plot by RIAA blackhats by pmz · · Score: 1


      No, I think the fungus is simply a side-effect of the RIAA asshats.

    7. Re:This is an Evil Plot by RIAA blackhats by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1

      And beer isn't really fit for human consumption, so we're good all the way around. :-)

    8. Re:This is an Evil Plot by RIAA blackhats by Krunch · · Score: 1

      > Screw the computer CD-RW. It's the beer that's important. Sweet delicious beer. *Mmmm... beer* You are licking your CDs aren't you ?

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  2. great example! by craigtay · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is another good example of how beer benfits our lives. First I found out if I drink a beer a day it somehow helps my heart, but now... now.. my life is complete.

    1. Re:great example! by Mjlner · · Score: 1
      Actually, beer is a wonderful subject for research if you want to learn chemistry. From the malting to the mashing and the fermentation you learn all the basics of proteins, starches, enzymes, bacteria and more.

      I often wish that I had been into brewing beer (as I am now) during my high school years. My grades would've been much better.

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    2. Re:great example! by phalse+phace · · Score: 1
      So, in other words, Homer was right!

      " Alcohol. The cause of and solution to all of life's problems."

    3. Re:great example! by Aceticon · · Score: 1

      No, no, no, you got it all wrong.

      Wine helps your hearth.

      Beer helps your belly (if you believe bigger is beter)

    4. Re:great example! by RMH101 · · Score: 1

      probably only if it's 100% proof, though.

    5. Re:great example! by los+furtive · · Score: 1

      probably only if it's 100% proof, though.

      <pedantic>Do you mean 100% alcohol, or 100 proof? Proof is a number that represents twice the percentage by volume of alcohol present. So 100 proof is only 50% alcohol.</pedantic>

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    6. Re:great example! by sharkey · · Score: 3, Funny
      Wine helps your hearth.

      I don't have a fireplace, so I suppose I should skip the wine.

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  3. Music? by davejenkins · · Score: 1

    Where does the "art" enter into this? Are you we to assume that the DJs who are varnishing, scratching, and otherwise farking up the media actually know what they will get when they do this, or are they just screwing around and hoping something comes out?

    I realize this is the natural progression from Jimi setting his guitar on fire-- but you won`t catch me at a concert.

    1. Re:Music? by borbyu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      since when has an artist been required to make art on purpose. Some of the greatest music ever were created by accident... its knowing that your accident is cool is the real talent!

    2. Re:Music? by Enoch+Root · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Haven't you heard of progress through experimentation? Do you really think ANY musician in the world comes up with a perfect song off the top of their head?

      Consider Jimi Hendrix trying to compose a song... He hits a few chords, and it sounds cool. He created something artistic out of random attempts, by using his artistic mind to discrimate between interesting sounds and uninteresting sounds.

      If THAT doesn't fit in your definition of 'art', then your definition excludes half of Mankind's works of art.

    3. Re:Music? by xkenny13 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hmmmm ... gives new meaning to the term, "Moldy Oldies".

    4. Re:Music? by fordboy0 · · Score: 1
      Hey... This stuff is Fungus-ART. It's what you do after you drink Aussie beer.

      -FB

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    5. Re:Music? by blincoln · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Formal music created through random, pseudo-random, or mathematical processes is almost a century old at this point. Check out some Schoenberg or John Cage. It may not be your kind of thing (I'm not really into it myself), but it is an interesting branch of art.

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    6. Re:Music? by MrHanky · · Score: 1

      Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't know what comes out of the scratching. I recommend Kid Koala as a DJ who knows what he's doing - he even does storytelling on turntables, and he's also a great live performer. He's not the most skilled turntablist, though.

      And what's wrong with just screwing around and hoping something comes out? Intentionalism is for romantics and sad losers. You're not hearing what the composers and musicians mean you to hear anyway.

    7. Re:Music? by perreira · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually it is a bit older: Mozart (1756-1791) did a Dice-Sonata: he composed 176 bars of music, of which you choose 16 by playing dice. This gives 11^16 different sonatas!

      These kind of musical dice-plays where in fashion in Mozarts time, the oldest known is from 1757: "Johann Philipp Kirnberger: Der allezeit fertige Polonoisen- und Menuettencomponist, Winter. Berlin 1757.".

      You can find more info (in german) on this page. There is quite a list of pieces and books...

    8. Re:Music? by yourruinreverse · · Score: 1

      I downloaded and listened to the 60 second Nine Inch Nails sample MP3 of "Hurt", and it sounded like an exact copy of the original (which I paid for, BTWRIAA), except for a lot of stuttering, as if the CD player had trouble finding the right groove. There was nothing special about these artefacts, apart from the urge I felt to take out the MP3 file and blow the dust particles off its surface.

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    9. Re:Music? by op00to · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's a difference, in mainstream art, between "music" and "a fucked up cd". Yes, you might have some sort of deconstructionist or dadaist who could defend this work as art, but who really listens to them anyhow? I don't know how this could be considered "cool". I didn't hear anything interesting when I listened to the mp3's. It sounded like he hocked a loogie on a CD, wiped it off with sandpaper, and then tossed the CD in a player. Wow. I could do that, just leave a CD on my desk for a few weeks. I understand that you can call whatever you want "art", but in this case I really don't think the end result is meaningful in any way other than to scratch up a Jay-Z cd.

    10. Re:Music? by op00to · · Score: 1

      First, nice argument. Comparing an original musician to someone who scratches up cds and calls it something to swoon over...I must remember that one.

      What happens when jimi produces something which doesn't sound like much of anything? He'll probably say "funk dat" and go to something else. This guy, instead, harps on something which is nothing more than a cd that's degraded in quality. It's not like an analog source that can warp -- the digital source just skips and pops. Wow. Groundbreaking stuff, obviously. I'm going to play those clear cd protectors that come on spools of CDR's, and call it my art. It may not make any sound, but it's experimentation, right?

    11. Re:Music? by mmol_6453 · · Score: 2, Funny

      cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp

      The sound of Linux. :P

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    12. Re:Music? by pimpybra · · Score: 1

      Johnny Cage Wins!

      Fatality!

    13. Re:Music? by proj_2501 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i don't think he's claiming to be the endpoint of experimentation on this issue.

      you may have heard of thomas brinkmann, who frequently uses the sounds from slices cut into vinyl records in his music. as far as i know, no-one has tried to really manipulate the actual cd media to find what sounds it makes because merely scratching up the surface doesn't produce much.

      now here is a method of modifying cd's without making them unplayable. let's see what can be done with this before we reject it entirely.

    14. Re:Music? by capnjack41 · · Score: 1
      "Regretssshhh....I've hadda few. But thenna gain, too few to menshun...(hic)"

      I know alcohol helps me as an artist (well, karaoke singer).

    15. Re:Music? by op00to · · Score: 1

      First, if you've listened to the mp3's, they sound no different than if you had taken the cd and spun it around on a table for a few minutes to get it good and scratched up. There was no ground breaking satan speech telling me to do anything, nor did it sound "cool." Ok, maybe if you're into skipping cds (and not even the cool fast skipping kind, this was just missing sections of audio), it might be cool. An everyday joe without specialized (high-powered microscope) equipment probably won't be able to make the CD do anything other than skip by "modifying cds". By changing the pits on the cd, you're much, much more likely to piss off the error-correcting circuitry of a CD player than you are to make some sort of sound. To create meaningful sound, you have to have a digital representation of sound waves. Random data as created by this process will usually be caught by the player and discarded. The remainder that isn't caught is probably inaudible anyhow. Can we move on now?

    16. Re:Music? by osu-neko · · Score: 1
      Where does the "art" enter into this? Are you we to assume that the DJs who are varnishing, scratching, and otherwise farking up the media actually know what they will get when they do this...

      No. They do it, then only use results that are aestheticly pleasing. Is there some reason why this particular application of a millenia old artistic process would not be considered art?

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    17. Re:Music? by falzer · · Score: 1

      Some of the greatest music ever was created by accident? Such as?

    18. Re:Music? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      And what's wrong with just screwing around and hoping something comes out?

      Nothing. I just wish we didn't have to hear about it until something actually does come out. What we've got here is a dude with a pile of sticky CDs and no actual conclusions. [yawn].

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    19. Re:Music? by Mattcelt · · Score: 1

      This just goes to show that beer enhances music.

      Just make sure you don't make the mix too beer-heavy, or the music gets vague and indistinct.

    20. Re:Music? by Drantin · · Score: 1

      Hm.. is that a rainstormn or a thunderous applause?

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    21. Re:Music? by Drantin · · Score: 1

      That would have been really funny if it had Linus saying how he pronounced linux...

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    22. Re:Music? by entartete · · Score: 1

      in honor of the passing of john cash:

      http://www.operator-98.com/usafsslite/blueman.htm

      In a 1970 write up about Johnny's fist million selling hit record, Reader's Digest reported that the inspiration for I Walk the Line was a chance tampering with his tape recorder during the Landsberg days. Johnny discovered a strange run of tones on his tape one day when playing it back and the melody stuck with him. Several months later, Cash discovered that the haunting tune was actually someone practicing some guitar runs, but he had been playing it backwards. He practiced the runs and in between, added the reversed melody chanted as "because you're mine, I walk the line", his first big hit.

    23. Re:Music? by entartete · · Score: 1

      http://webplaza.pt.lu/mbarnig/pages/dicemus.html

      more info in english, the idea was running around even before mozart and kirnberger and such they were just the ones who wrote things about it that got passed along. so you were even more correct about the idea of the antiquity of randomly generated music than you thought! (and i'm sure someone else will be able to find even earlier references than I dug up. like most good ideas it was thought of a long long time ago)

      in addition to cage's aleatoric compositions another take on the use of random processes in making music in recent years (one of many, there are and have been lots of people working like this) was iannis xenakis' work in stochastic processes/granular synthesis and such like. more information at http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/Leonardo/isast /spec.projects/Xenakisbib.html

    24. Re:Music? by Deflagro · · Score: 1

      Agreed. When I read what this was about I thought it was a joke. Then I went to the web page and listened to the NIN song, that just confused me. Then I looked at the digital pictures showing static in movies. I thought I was missing something, but now I see that I am not. There was nothing there to beging with.

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    25. Re:Music? by Enoch+Root · · Score: 1

      I was going to reply by quoting Oval, but yeah, Brinkmann does nicely. :)

      For any techno artist, a new way of deforming 'known' sounds is always cool. It's a new sound filter. Now, just taking a known song and pouring beer on it, yeah, that sucks. But using this to produce something you never heard, and THEN integrating this in an artistic process... That makes total sense.

      The guy who forgot beer on his CD is not an artist, but he created an interesting tool.

      It's the same thing with Bullet Time, actually : in itself, it was just an annoying Gap ad. In the context of a creative process, it becomes a very useful tool.

  4. Obviously... by Quaoar · · Score: 1

    ...the submitters are using beer for other things besides ruining their CDs. Such as drinking it and forgetting that this story already was on the main page.

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  5. Google Versions by perttu · · Score: 2, Informative
  6. Whew. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    As long as the fungus is on the cd and not actually ON Britney Spears, I'm fine with it. I need my baby to be tip-top for her man.

  7. Warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Coating CDs in beer, wine, whiskey, or any other hard or malt liquor/liquer is a violation of the DMCA.

    Allowable liquids:

    Windex
    Water
    Pepsi (One, Blue, Vanilla)

    1. Re:Warning by DocStoner · · Score: 1

      Windex contains amonia which can scratch the cd. But the Coke products work better than the Pepsi ones.

    2. Re:Warning by default+luser · · Score: 1

      I've discovered that if you are eating anything other than raw, organically grown spinach, it'll eventually kill ya.

      Call me back when you become Iron Anemic and have a a heart attack ;)

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    3. Re:Warning by DocStoner · · Score: 1

      Too much of anything can kill you, but you can have 5 to 6 servings of spinach a day and still be within the recommended daily allowance. Spinach has also been known to inhibit the absorption of iron found in other foods.

  8. Mmmmmm, beer... by xkenny13 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Beer, is there anything it can't do?

    1. Re:Mmmmmm, beer... by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Beer, is there anything it can't do?"

      So far it hasn't been able to get you laid. The experiment's still running though...

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    2. Re:Mmmmmm, beer... by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Enough beer and you can get laid with a beautiful and hot woman... The only downside is that you will wake up by the loch-ness monster...

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    3. Re:Mmmmmm, beer... by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 1

      It depends who drinks it.

    4. Re:Mmmmmm, beer... by jandersen · · Score: 1

      'In soviet russia, crack smokes SCO!'

      Whose crack is smoking, did you say?

    5. Re:Mmmmmm, beer... by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      Congratulations, you were the first post not modded as funny. I sure as hell don't know why not though.

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    6. Re:Mmmmmm, beer... by parseexception · · Score: 1

      so not only will beer create music, it can also induce matter manipulation... indeed is there nothing this magical elixir cannot do, in the words of Spock fascinating.

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    7. Re:Mmmmmm, beer... by Griim · · Score: 1

      Ahh, alcohol...the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems...

  9. Apt by samj · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's precisely beer o'clock down under (17:18 Friday), so while this article is otherwise a complete waste of 1's and 0's, at least it's aptly timed.

    1. Re:Apt by beredon · · Score: 1

      I was actually enjoying a Cascade when I heard this on 774 AM (ABC Melbourne).

    2. Re:Apt by modme2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      this was on abc.net.au a couple of days ago, i was going to submit it, but then i thought who on slashdot would be interested in a story about beer and cd's? ;)

  10. Trust us Aussies by sjwt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It would have to be an Australian
    to mix beer and CDs..

    Now finaly we can prove which
    beer is the best musicly..!

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    1. Re:Trust us Aussies by Enoch+Root · · Score: 1

      It would have to be an Australian
      to mix beer and CDs..


      You guys DID invent the 3X PC beer holder!

    2. Re:Trust us Aussies by Joel+Carr · · Score: 1

      Now finaly we can prove which
      beer is the best musicly..!


      Coopers Pale Ale of course!! Nothing else comes close!

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  11. Better not try this on a Linux distro by narratorDan · · Score: 1, Funny

    or the next thing you know SCO will own beer too.

    SCO Sues Miller For Copyright Violations

    SCO: See! The beer and fungus are derived from Linux which is derived from Unix which is owned by us, so pay up!

    NarratorDan

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    1. Re:Better not try this on a Linux distro by robbyjo · · Score: 1

      Not only that... If the fermented Linux CD is thrown into the dirt, the fungus would cause the dirt to form compost. Thus, SCO would sue compost maker too. Including us, who contribute it through septic tanks... :-)

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    2. Re:Better not try this on a Linux distro by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "SCO: See! The beer and fungus are derived from Linux which is derived from Unix which is owned by us, so pay up!"

      By using these jokes, aren't you deriving work from SCO's previous works? (And those of about 3 million other Slashdotters with +4, Funny's next to their names?)

    3. Re:Better not try this on a Linux distro by narratorDan · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you but I give a +1 bonus to "Funny" and "Interesting"; +6 to "Informative"; -1 to "Off Topic" and "Redundant"; -2 to "Flamebait"; and -6 to "Troll"

      So from where I'm sitting I see (Score: 5, SCO Joke)

      NarratorDan

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    4. Re:Better not try this on a Linux distro by canning · · Score: 1

      I agree, beating a dead horse. Read the article and post something relatively close to what it talks about.

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    5. Re:Better not try this on a Linux distro by narratorDan · · Score: 1

      And the MS, RIAA, AAPL, Cowboyneal, beowolf, insensitive clod, jokes are beating a live horse? I read the article, and I have tons of these CD laying around. About 95% of my CDs have scratched or some mystery goo on them making them unplayable...so I piss off the RIAA and download replacement tunes.

      NarratorDan

      PS. I'm a slashdotter, why else would I be posting at 3:30 am? I suck.

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    6. Re:Better not try this on a Linux distro by canning · · Score: 1

      It's all beating a dead horse. PS. You're a rebel.

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    7. Re:Better not try this on a Linux distro by narratorDan · · Score: 1

      It's all beating a dead horse

      I agree, but if it weren't for Slashdot these (fr/g)eeks would be out doing things! One of them might actually change the world!

      PS. You're a rebel.

      Are you hitting on me?!? I'm not that kind of Narrator!

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  12. This just can't be believed at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Aussies don't have any beverages that could be regarded at beer.

    As the Monty Python Joke goes:

    What is the difference between making love in a canoe and Austrailian Beer?

    Nothing. They are both fucking close to water!

    1. Re:This just can't be believed at all by samj · · Score: 2, Informative

      You obviously haven't tried Coopers Sparkling Ale.

    2. Re:This just can't be believed at all by donscarletti · · Score: 5, Informative
      Try a Tooheys Old, it is a good full bodied black ale.

      Anyway, that line was said by an Australian in "Live at the Hollwood Bowl" about American beer, not about Australian beer itself. If you don't believe me look here.

      You really need to get your Monty Python sorted out before you use it to pick on the calibre of Aussie Bruces you will find on Slashdot.

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    3. Re:This just can't be believed at all by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1

      The Bruces

      Bruce: G'day, Bruce!
      Bruce: Oh, Hello Bruce!
      Bruce: How are you Bruce?
      Bruce: A bit crook, Bruce.
      Bruce: Where's Bruce?
      Bruce: He's not 'ere, Bruce.
      Bruce: Blimey, it's hot in here, Bruce.
      Bruce: Hot enough to boil a monkey's bum!
      Bruce: That's a strange expression, Bruce.
      Bruce: Well Bruce, I heard the Prime Minister use it. "It's hot enough to boil a monkey's bum in here, your Majesty," he said, and she smiled quietly to herself.
      Bruce: She's a good Sheila, Bruce, and not at all stuck up.
      Bruce: Here! Here's the boss-fellow now!
      Bruce: 'Ow are you, Bruce?
      Bruce: G'day, Bruce!
      Bruce: Bruce.
      Bruce: Hello, Bruce.
      Bruce: Bruce.
      Bruce: How are you, Bruce?
      Bruce: G'day, Bruce.
      Bruce: Gentlemen, I'd like to introduce a man from Pommyland who is joinin' us this year in the Philosophy Department at the University of Wooloomooloo.
      EveryBruce: G'day!
      Michael Baldwin: Hello.
      Bruce: Michael Baldwin, Bruce. Michael Baldwin, Bruce. Michael Baldwin, Bruce.
      Bruce: Is your name not Bruce?
      Michael: No, it's Michael.
      Bruce: That's going to cause a little confusion.
      Bruce: Mind if we call you "Bruce" to keep it clear?
      Bruce: Gentlemen, I think we better start the faculty meeting. Before we start, though, I'd like to ask the padre for a prayer.
      Bruce: Oh Lord, we beseech Thee, Amen!!
      EveryBruce: Amen!
      Bruce: Crack tube! (Bottles opening)
      Bruce: Now I call upon Bruce to officially welcome Mr. Baldwin to the philosophy faculty.
      Bruce: I'd like to welcome the pommy bastard to God's own Earth, and remind him that we don't like stuck-up sticky-beaks here.
      EveryBruce: Hear, hear! Well spoken, Bruce!
      Bruce: Bruce here teaches classical philosophy, Bruce there teaches Hegelian philosophy, and Bruce here teaches logical positivism. And is also in charge of the sheep dip.
      Bruce: What's New-Bruce going to teach?
      Bruce: New-Bruce will be teaching political science, Machiavelli, Benton, Lockholm, Sackly, Millbo, Hasset, and Bernerd.
      Bruce: Those are all cricketers!
      Bruce: Aww, spit!
      Bruce: Howls of derisive laughter, Bruce!
      EveryBruce: Australia, Australia, Australia, Australia, we love you, amen!
      Bruce: Another two! (Bottles opening)
      Bruce: Any questions?
      Bruce: New-Bruce, are you a Poofter?
      Bruce: Are you a Poofter?
      New-Bruce: No!
      Bruce: No. Right, I just want to remind you of the faculty rules:

      Rule One! (Everybruce) No Poofters!
      Rule Two, no member of the faculty is to maltreat the Abos in any way at all -- if there's anybody watching.
      Rule Three? (Everybruce) No Poofters!!
      Rule Four, now this term, I don't want to catch anybody not drinking.
      Rule Five, (Everybruce) No Poofters!
      Rule Six, there is NO ... Rule Six.
      Rule Seven, (Everybruce) No Poofters!!

      Right, that concludes the readin' of the rules, Bruce.
      Bruce: This here's the wattle, the emblem of our land. You can stick it in a bottle, you can hold it in your hand.
      EveryBruce: Amen!

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  13. what brand beer? by narkotix · · Score: 1

    im guessing Vic Bitter...each sat nite that makes my biocomputer say colourful words and sounds ;-)

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  14. Wisdom from Homer Simpson.... by tktk · · Score: 2, Informative


    Beer--the cause of and solution to all of life's little problems.

  15. It's even more insidious! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Funny
    I have reason to believe that this is a joint venture between the RIAA and the MPAA to...

    COPYRIGHT BEER! Yes, 12 year old girls are not enough! Now they want to sue us for drinking beer!

    Those SOBs! If only Rainbow Brite were alive. She would know what to do.

    Well, back to my beer...er, research. *hic*

    1. Re:It's even more insidious! by fuzzix · · Score: 2, Funny

      Rainbow Brite was a SHE?! You mean I'm not gay? This is confusing...

    2. Re:It's even more insidious! by sketerpot · · Score: 1

      Yes, Rainbow Brite would know what to do. Unfortunately, the closest thing I've come across was a colorful story of a joke gone too far.

    3. Re:It's even more insidious! by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      "COPYRIGHT BEER! Yes, 12 year old girls are not enough! Now they want to sue us for drinking beer!"

      This just in from Chicago... Al Bundy has left the city.

  16. Nothing new here... by Solo-Malee · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...I've had Beer on my AOL coasters for 10 years now.

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  17. That seems impossible to me. by LinuxMan · · Score: 1

    He claims it did not destroy the CD, but really, the data side is the side where the label is. He might be talking about the clear glass side. If so, that is fascinating. I would figure the laser would not be able to focus on that. One has to wonder what if different types of bacteria from things other than yogurt or beer would create even more interesting types of sounds.

    I don't have a regular CD player. Someone should do this, record it, then post it up here for those of us without regular CD players!

    Seal: new self titled album

    1. Re:That seems impossible to me. by rowanxmas · · Score: 1

      I have sigs turned off, which means this dude is pasting in his advertising every time. Very annoying.

  18. Money-saving copy protection by the RIAA by Tokerat · · Score: 1


    The RIAA has invested millions into this guy: If he succeeds in his research, the RIAA can continue their practice of being raving, jealous alcoholics and the expense can be written off for business; The beer was to foil computer CD-ROM drives to not play the discs.

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  19. No visuals? by cloudless.net · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "...he spilled beer on his CDs and left them over night. The resulting fungus..."

    I was expecting to see what the fungus looks like, and whether it could survive the high-speed spin in the CDROM drive, however all I found was a lame stock photo.

    1. Re:No visuals? by robbyjo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There IS visuals... See the paper here (see page 5). It's a 9 MB PDF file. That paper also mentions that the fungus DID impact the error correcting part of the CD. And it mentions on page 7:

      To begin with, each computation was started by placing one disc into a stand-alone CD or DVD player and pressing play. In all cases so far, placing treated discs into computer-based, CD, CD-RW and DVD players has caused the computer or laptop to crash. For this reason, this study focused only on CD and DVD players that are modular. In most cases the disc was recognized and begain playing. If the player failed to recognize the disc, it was necessary tor emove some cell material using soft cloth [...] Note that cells were completely removed from the innermost region of data at the beginning of the disc, since this is header information necessary for the player to mount the disc.

      Then it goes on the snapshot of the "treated" DVD playback on figure 6 at page 9.

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    2. Re:No visuals? by robbyjo · · Score: 1

      Before people condemn the paper as lame, read the paper at the parent post. Probably the most important results to us are that the author suggests:

      • It smooth the audio partition, so it's ideal for audio mixing. (see pp 11 & 12)
      • It has a "natural" error code in the sense that the fungus improve the error code robustness over time.


      I may be wrong, but read the paper yourself.

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    3. Re: No visuals? by Pointdexter · · Score: 1

      Ahh, you mean pictures of fungus? I was ready to try spilling beer on a few CD's, leaving them in the oven with some banana skins for a while and then smoking the results.

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  20. can you influence the fungus by jlemmerer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the more interesting question would be:
    can you influence the fungus that it does something useful and not only distort the data randomly...
    might be useful for encryption if you could find a way to restore the original data with a secure "key"/method/anti-fungus-spray/whatever.

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  21. B-ear Goggles? by HarryCallahan · · Score: 1

    So does it make the ugly artists sound better?

  22. Sounds like a skipping CD to me by eggmit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is this where our research dollars are going? :)

  23. Re:Australians and Beer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm Australian, and I don't like beer. Is there something wrong with me?

    Yes, you probably drank Foster's.

  24. Somehow I knew..... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    Somehow, just somehow, I knew that the biocomputing was coming. And that the person who brought it to us would be a drunk DJ/Scientist who accidentally spilled his beer on a cd.

    Yes, the key to biocomputing has been unlocked,

    and it is beer.

    All behold and bow down before the oncoming might of the free (as in beer) biocomputing technology.

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  25. Here in Bavaria... by Advocadus+Diaboli · · Score: 5, Funny
    ... it is a sin to spill beer. Beer is a basic food and people should drink it and not spill it. This separates the tourists from the real bavarian men at the Octoberfest.

    Caution: Be aware that beer contains a lot of female hormons. If you drink too much you start takling nonsense and you're unable to drive a car.

    1. Re:Here in Bavaria... by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      Caution: Be aware that beer contains a lot of female hormones. If you drink too much you start talking nonsense and you're unable to drive a car.

      And eventually... you'll grow breasts.

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  26. media samples by cyrax777 · · Score: 1

    Oh s*** better hope the RIAA doesnt find out about them

  27. I felt a disturbence. by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1, Funny
    I felt a disturbence in the music. Allmost as if a million yeast cells cried out in pain and then were silenced as they were lasered to death.

    So now we know why skynet wants to whipe out the human race.

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  28. I hope to god this guy isn't american. by SeanRMR · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Being australian I am extremely fond of beer but and don above was quite right that monty python joke was done as them playing australians and goes" american beer is like making love in a canoe they're both fucking close to water." this joke was done after they said we have brung some australian beer along. and by the looks of the green cans I say it would be VB which is a low beer not as low as XXXX or fosters all of which is above budweiser which I do say is close to water. German and Belguim beers are great aswell as good old guiness the beer thats a meal. But yes you will find many a good australian beer espicially at the national beer festival in brisbane next weekend over150 australian beers on tap.

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    1. Re:I hope to god this guy isn't american. by modme2 · · Score: 1

      ive only ever heard it about american beer too at least we can agree beer should be COLD! ;)

    2. Re:I hope to god this guy isn't american. by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      "VB which is a low beer not as low as XXXX or fosters all"

      Reminds me of another joke. Why do Queenslanders drink XXXX? Because they can't spell BEER.

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  29. MP3 samples arent that weird by aardwolf204 · · Score: 1

    The MP3 samples of the audio cds dont sound that weird, just like a 486/33 trying to play a 44.1Khz 128Bit MP3.

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  30. sandpaper by Madcapjack · · Score: 1
    I downloaded the mp3 of the distorted Chili Peppers Song on their website. I wasn't impressed. As far as I could tell, I would get the same effect by lightly scraping sandpaper over my cd.

  31. Now at least one mistery is solved... by Thomas+Miconi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No need to wonder about who will reap the next IGNobel prize in biology... :-)

    Thomas Miconi
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  32. Hitchhiker's reference by panurge · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the discovery of the Infinite Improbability Drive. About the same probability that this could result in anything actually worthwhile. Though it is said that people used to pour beer down the back of bar pianos to "improve the sound".

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  33. Beer ... computers ... it's a wrap! by the+bluebrain · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The only "maningful" change results from the error correction logic in the CD drive.
    • [...] the way fungus and bacteria [grow] can shape the sound in weird ways.
    Tosh. It's flipping some of the bits in a bitstream which represents audio encoded with an arbitrary codec. Dude - there are more interesting ways of flipping bits, and ones that might just tell you a bit more about bacteria, fungi, music, life, the universe, and everything.
    What's this guy on? I want some.

    /beer, you say? Good. I can do that.
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    1. Re:Beer ... computers ... it's a wrap! by ameoba · · Score: 1
      What's this guy on?


      An ego trip.
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  34. Hey, I've got an idea... by trudyscousin · · Score: 1

    ...maybe this guy could spill beer on The Roches' "Big Nuthin'." On second thought, that would probably be redundant.

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  35. Doesn't seem all that impressive by AaronStJ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ok, so this sounds a lot like a troll, but...

    I don't see that this is terribly impressive. I mean, he's done a fair bit of research, wrote several papers, and uses big words like "nanoscale chemical filter" and "Boolean string re-arrangements," but in the end, all he seems to have done is pour chemicals on CDs and make them skip. I could do the same with a brillo pad. Why is that impressive? He makes a lot of noise about computing, but is any usefull computing actually going on? What are the practical applications of this "technology"?

    Taking a look at the media samples, it doesn't strike me that he's stumbled on a cool new artistic technique at all (it should be mentioned that the artist Oval has been scratching up CDs in the name of art with much better results for years). This is the same thing anyone has gotten when they accidently scratched up a CD or DVD. There's no art to it, and frankly it sounds terrible.

    I can understand why this would be important if his techniques yielded predictable, useful results, such as achieve a specific, desired audio or visual effect. But basically all that he gets in a broken file. The same could be done by randomly flipping an arbitrary number of bits inside a mp3. Nothing usefull is being computed or done at all. So why is this important, or even relevant?

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    1. Re:Doesn't seem all that impressive by zakezuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I too read this expecting some insight into how fractical geometery distortions would affect digital streems. Part of the argument why vinyl sounds better then CD to some people is in part due to fuzzy non-quanitative reasons such as warmth or feel aka noise and distortion, and research into so-called noise I feel is important to out understanding of the perception of sound. Let's face it, sound it self is not only vibration but it's reverberation off the ambient enviroment.

      I heard garbled CDs, nothing more then garbled CDs. I see it being useful to create random distortions which in turn can be converted into software to achieve the same effect, and one day perhaps you can get something to sound neet and weird, but that seems to be the only redeeming value to these experiments.

      I would be more interested to hear the effect on your standard issue sin waves rather then "this is not a love song". Atleast that way I can actually have some measure of understanding of the actual effect.

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    2. Re:Doesn't seem all that impressive by wrmrxxx · · Score: 1
      The same could be done by randomly flipping an arbitrary number of bits inside a mp3. Nothing usefull is being computed or done at all. So why is this important, or even relevant?
      I'm sure it's very important to him - how else is he going to get government grants to buy beer for a 'research project'? I wish I'd thought of that.
    3. Re:Doesn't seem all that impressive by inerte · · Score: 1

      But basically all that he gets in a broken file.

      Until you get penicillin. Really, sometimes innovation and invention come from unexpected places.

    4. Re:Doesn't seem all that impressive by Xyde · · Score: 2, Funny
      BUT IT'S BEER! ON A SOPHIE MONK CD!!!1111ONE ONE ONE!11

      Can't you see the impact this discovery could have on the music industry? "Britney Spears - now with more BEER!"

      Not only can they appeal to the horny 14 year old male population, but also the impotent overweight 40 year old couch potato male population!

      4. Profit!!!

      Why do you people always have to be so critical of things - this guy has managed to put beer on a CD. I for one welcome our fungal music overlords, and think this is worthy of a patent. "Method of placing beverage on a CD." :D

    5. Re:Doesn't seem all that impressive by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The impressive part is not the research he's produced, but the fact that he's been able to secure a position as a scientist where spilling his beer on things is considerd research. Just think how many kids today would get into science if they knew you could do research on being a drunk DJ.

      For instance I've found no documented research on the effect of various alcohols on programmer efficiency. Call For Papers anyone??

    6. Re:Doesn't seem all that impressive by osu-neko · · Score: 1
      The same could be done by randomly flipping an arbitrary number of bits inside a mp3.

      No. I think the point here is that this is done by a non-random process.

      Of course, the result may be no more impressive. Or perhaps it may be. Give me a $10 million research grant and I'll see...

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    7. Re:Doesn't seem all that impressive by weileong · · Score: 1

      .... pardon my ignorance, but isn't this what metamoderation is supposed to be about? So is it that not enough people are metamoderating, or is it that the metamoderators all agree (in which case what you've got is the "tyranny of the majorit" in which case, well, there's not much you can do about it?)

  36. AOL disks., by adeyadey · · Score: 1

    So this is what happens to all those AOL disks Ive been using as coasters..

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  37. Let me know.. by john_smith_45678 · · Score: 1

    Anybody wanna buy some beer bio-keyboards? I also have them available in coffee and cola models.

  38. In related news... by PimpNinjaWannaBee · · Score: 5, Funny

    "A student and teenager in Australia whose research is in the area of communication
    through pick-up-lines, serendipitously created an 'optical biocomputer' when he spilled
    beer on down his throat and left it there for a couple of hours. The resulting drunkeness
    that formed distorted the sound of his voice in interesting and meaningful ways. Here's
    some of his research, media samples which include mp3s of the distorted "music" coming soon."
    Yes, the term biocomputer is used in the loosest sense.

  39. I'm afraid so by hayden · · Score: 2, Funny
    I'm Australian, and I don't like beer. Is there something wrong with me?
    This is a serious condition you're suffering there. Fortunately help is at hand. An important step in your recovery is to find yourself a support group (otherwise known as a bunch of piss heads). Gatherings are usually carried out on regular basis (especially on occasions known as sporting events, BBQs, birthdays hard days at work, good days at work, indifferent days at work, having visitors around and generally any day ending in the letter y).

    You'll also need a supply of the beer itself. While most Australians would drink tray slops if that's all that was available, it takes many years of practice to achieve this level of sophistication. I'd suggest you start out with something more mainstream but only the good stuff. I'd recommend Boags Premium or Coopers Pale Ale. Get the full strength stuff. Light beer is un-Australian and vaguely suspect.

    Once you have your gathering the tough work begins. Start drinking. Push on through the taste for the first half dozen and you'll be there! If you are completely unable to start drinking beer then you may have to start with some other girlie drink for the first couple of hours and then move on to the nectar of the gods later in the evening (afternoon or morning depending on when the support group gathered).

    A couple of sessions such as this and you'll be able to stand proudly at the bar at your next public engagement and say "Beer thanks mate".

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  40. Pfft... that's nothing by nathanh · · Score: 1, Funny

    I've created an olfactory biocomputer in my shoes, but you don't see me bragging about it.

  41. Ruined Disc by Potor · · Score: 2, Funny
    The following week, he put on a CD by Nine Inch Nails and found that it would not play properly because fungus had grown on it. But the fungus had not ruined the disc.
    Indeed, I think NIN ruined the disk.

    Seriously, though, I cannot be alone in having stumbled upon these effects by accident myself.

    Although it was interesting to learn the difference in growth patterns between fungus and bacteria, I can in no way see what is "pioneering," or even interesting, about this.

  42. No news today obviously by ralphclark · · Score: 1

    This isn't news, it's bullshit. The examples given are just ordinary degraded media, there's nothing surprising in the result. So what's this meant to be about? We have to worship entropy now, do we?

    Slashdot editors should not feel obliged to post this kind of intellectual jerk-off just because it got high score on the keyword-o-meter. Try reading the stuff first dammit, see if there's any value in it.

  43. more ways than one by IdleLay · · Score: 1

    I find the sound is also somewhat distorted after drinking (a few) beer.

  44. Experiment confirmed by vpaul · · Score: 1

    I can confirm that music sounds distorted
    when too much beer is involved...

  45. suggested mod: get a life? by gfody · · Score: 1

    at least unfunny is better than offtopic, which is what you are, bitching about moderations and being an all around pompous ass.

    of course bitching about bitching about moderations and being a pompous ass must put me somewhere below you. but Im not posting AC so at least im not a pussy

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  46. Biotech at home by makapuf · · Score: 1

    Ahem, considering the article, I think we're allowed to post about anything here.

    Er, .. does puking on CDs counts as biotech, too ?

  47. its 2007 by gfody · · Score: 1

    I'm looking at the owners manual for the olsen twins CD I just bought...

    1. remove CD from protective sleeve
    2. open included DCD concentrate and delute in 3oz water
    3. add 1g authenticated signed substance, mix until fully dissolved
    4. submerge CD in ASS solution for 30 seconds
    5. remove CD from solution, allow 3 to 5 minutes to dry
    6. enjoy your music ...sucker

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  48. Fungus changed music by chthonicdaemon · · Score: 1, Funny

    The resulting fungus that formed distorted the sound of the CDs in interesting and meaningful ways

    Whe else thought that the guy imbibed the fungus for these effects?

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  49. I Second the Coopers Pale Ale... by Joel+Carr · · Score: 1

    and so would my mate in Japan. He's finally got hold of a cache of the stuff and is a very happy man!

    Read his web diary for the story:
    http://gaijinlife.tripod.com/

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  50. The loosest possible sense indeed... by heironymouscoward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A computer, bio or not, is a system that takes input, performs specific and predictable calculation, and produces output.

    An artist, DJ or otherwise, is a person who through talent and skill creates deliberate and specific sensory effects that stimulate the audience in interesting ways.

    What we have here is neither art not science, and the article sounds like something from April 1st. Allow me to translate the text again:

    A bus driver and part-time juggler in Milton Keynes whose research is in the area of communication through flaming torches, serendipitously created an 'golden pussycat' when he spilled beer on his shirt and left it over night. The resulting fungus that formed distorted the shape of the shirt in interesting and meaningful ways. Here's some of his research, and some t-shirt samples which include opinions of psychotics of the distorted garments."

    "Interesting and meaningful" to whom exactly?

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  51. Beer Festival in Brisbane by Compact+Dick · · Score: 1

    Thanks for that. I might run into you there on Friday ;-)

    National Festival Of Beers, Brisbane [2003-09-19 - 2003-09-21].

  52. Nothing new here by Hellga2000 · · Score: 1

    I've been using the AOL coasters for years as well. It is nice to see someone else found a good use for AOL.

    1. Re:Nothing new here by jpmkm · · Score: 1

      So all these years you thought you were the only one? Out of every American who has received hundreds of them?

  53. Been & CD by pinkfloyd43 · · Score: 1

    When was the last time you spilled beer on your CD's while at work!

    1. Re:Been & CD by vekotin · · Score: 1

      Yesterday, actually. Don't tell me I have to admin windows boxes sober...

      Okay, it was a DVD.

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  54. Fungus coated coasters by Matrix2110 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Losing Karma. Oh well, that is what it is for. (At least I get to sleep easy at night because I speak up for what I believe in.){=Original and not a bad sig.

    Two issues with this story, one is the fact that if you indeed get the 'perfect' mold grown on your disk it is very difficult to freeze the err, data in a static way.

    The number two thing is why are people researching this 'Fungus-effect' rather than say, rubbing crayons onto cds with a far more reproducable effect?

    Bio-cds perhaps?

    Not to mention the health hazards are also greatly reduced with crayons. Of course you will still have to deal with the issue of the foreign matter of your choice clogging up your CD drive.

    Also the offbalancing in that 100x drive you picked up at costco for twenty bucks. is going to cost you a trip to the return line.

    It's your hardware, please do as you wish. (Just let us know what happens) Visions of mold based prior art dance through my head sorta like the SCO executives.

    Personally I vote to wait and see what the community will come up with the 'New Mold sound' and then start a fund to blast it from afar into BG's compound.

    The Karma Killer: This was indeed posted on Fark.com a day ago. To be fair. Fark takes great pains to acknowledge any scoops from /.

    They even show the /. logo.

    It kinda ticks me off that we can't even acknowledge a odd story news gathering site with a tech bias. Fark is zero threat to /. so why not some Quid Pro Quo?

    Slashdot is depth. Fark is popcorn.

    Sometimes popcorn needs to be chewed in depth.

    And sometimes depth has to be chewed by popcorn.

    Thank you for reading my semi-off topic rant that I am sure to pay for in the morning.

    The last possible shield for my slim castle of karma: I showed this article to a fellow co-worker when we were both under a very tight deadline (He moonlights as a DJ, Biggest cd collection I have ever seen. 5000+ collection)

    He just started laughing and laughing. I know that is sorta creepy but it was a relief sort of laugh, not one of those ones in the very scary under-reported storys thread.

    That kind of stuff is hard to refute.

    I work in the Media and that thread gave me great pause.

    One nice thing I really like about Slashdot is the fact that I might take a verbal tongue lashing from the literati, I don't usually get my lug nuts pried of my car because I think different. I am using a metaphor for having my car stereo ripped off a long time ago. What I learned was don't keep expensive stuff in your car. (Basic knowledge 101)

  55. Aha! by the_real_tigga · · Score: 1

    FTA:
    A DJ [...] whose research is in the area of communication through biological cells

    Yeeah. Right.
    Translation: he jerks off in public.

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  56. Microwave by jimbolaya · · Score: 1

    Place a CD in a microwave for just a few seconds. You probably won't get a biocomputer, but it puts on a good light show. And to make sure this isn't off-topic...try it while drinking a beer!

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  57. NIN makes it worthwhile by lessthan0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Any professor with Nine Inch Nails in their music collection is worth supporting.

    Maybe we can get him to spill other beverages and mixed drinks onto CDs and record the results.

    A government grant should also be in the works.

    1. Re:NIN makes it worthwhile by yerricde · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing the professor probably listens to NIN only because the late Johnny Cash covered one of Trent's songs.

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    2. Re:NIN makes it worthwhile by Kirin3 · · Score: 1

      Have you ever listened to the "Fixed" CD? Most of it sounds like constantly skipping CD's to begin with!

  58. Nothing like good scientific research by mikehilly · · Score: 1

    I am guessing that the reason they have beer in the lab is incase their hypothesis and data don't match up. This way they can down a couple and then everything starts looking right.... :-)

    No more need for acurate studies! I only wish they had supplied beer at my school's lab. I know I would have done better on those darn exeriments.

  59. Australia continues to lead the way... by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

    ...in beer-related science. Since 1908, Aussies have been doing groundbreaking work in this field.

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  60. Newton? by dolo666 · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or does this remind anyone else of Sir Isaac Newton's famous apple?

  61. INFORMATIVE? by Meffan · · Score: 1

    Parent is Informative??

    Mwa ha ha ha haaa, that is truly funny. For those who don't know, yes - getting drunk may get you laid, the results are...unpredictable though.

    Try Looking Here for examples.

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    1. Re:INFORMATIVE? by lysium · · Score: 1
      Yeah, it's as good a thread as any to begin educating the youngsters in this crowd....

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    2. Re:INFORMATIVE? by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 1
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  62. Next up... by dcigary · · Score: 1

    ...the sounds and images of a University webserver slowing being Slashdotted to death....

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  63. Wasn't this a movie by nairb107 · · Score: 1

    written by and starring the infamouse Yahoo Serious?

  64. Old news by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

    I posted my funny comment on fark.com when this story was posted there about 3 days ago.

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  65. CD Player = High Resolution Microscope? by G4from128k · · Score: 1

    I wonder if one could hack a CD-player to act like a microscope? The key would be to turn off any error correction/fault detection stuff and watch the raw bit pattern. When those bits are reconstructed into tracks, we would get a 1-bit image of the surface.

    OK, there's a ton of tiny details that prevent this from working -- mostly due to the fact that modern CD players are unhackable blackboxes with all the magic inaccessibly embedded into a few inscrutable ASICs. It also does not help that the image plane (or is that play'n) is located on the metalized side of the disk. Cleaning a spot on the data-side, mounting a thin specimen well and reflective cover would be hard. Getting the disk to balance would be a challenge. Perhaps this hack would be a good use of all those ancient CD players, built from discrete components, that refuse to play RIAA-corrupted discs (I got a old CD player at a garage sale that actually had 6-daughter boards plugged into a backplane).

    Done well, this system should be capable of resolutions of a couple of microns (the track-track x the pit-to-pit spacing). Oh, and for even higher resolution, hack a DVD player.

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  66. Yahoo Serious by techstar25 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did anyone else picture Yahoo Serious doing this as they read the summary?

  67. BIOCOMPUTING != Scratching disks!!! by zborro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have listened to every mp3 and watched a pair of videos... but it's really obvious that what you get is a random inability of the error correcting code of the sound/image interpreter. It's all because of the pseudorandom distribution af data on the surface for error correction purposes!

    If the guy tried something on a vinyl it should be much more interesting because the sound is not digitally treated and is perfectly sequential...

    Yes... but the result of course would be a low frequency filter and a destruction of the pickup!!!

    Really non interesting research. IMHO.

    I'd like to try letting a cellular automata on a WAV file and to see what I can get from this. THIS would be science.

  68. Obligatory Simpsons Quote by Faw · · Score: 1

    "Beer, the cause, and solution of all of lifes problems."

    Homer Jay Simpson

  69. Re:It's fraud. Nothing but pure crap to hook idiot by Vihai · · Score: 1

    It's pretty evident to anyone who has a bit of knowledge about the data processing involved in the encoding of an Audio CD.

    Just thinking about the interleaving make all this stuff senseless.

    Said that, I think that the guy would have a brilliant future as an audiophile.

  70. Poor MP3's ... by ProfMoriarty · · Score: 1
    I'd like to complain on the quality of the MP3s that were linked to. They skipped like an old record, and sounded like they were from a 386.

    Although this is better quality than most of the songs that I download from Kazaa, I'd like to get better rips.

    BTW, do you log everyone who takes these MP3s? Or is it "anonymous"?

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  71. science+beer=?? by jbl81 · · Score: 1

    Does it bother anyone else that this scientist was drinking while on the job???

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  72. one small problem by c4ffeine · · Score: 1

    So, if the cd's have fungi on them that need beer to survive, do you have to dunk them in beer every day or something? that would be really inconvenient... I wouldn't buy a CD that needed to be maintained like that. Also, minors would be unable to use CD's because they would have no way of purchasing food for them... legally, anyways. Tell me if this makes any sense at all, I havent slept in over a day...

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  73. The tragedy is... by LinuxGeek · · Score: 1

    that must mean that many people here were just informed of the existence of beer-goggles. More slashdot regulars are going to get laid this weekend! Well, as laid as one can get while semi-conscious from alcohol poisoning.

    Note to mods: This is a joke! Not an attack of your lifestyle. :)

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  74. Movie: Electric Dreams by wift · · Score: 1

    However, in the movie it was champagne on on the Motherboard not beer on the CD.

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  75. I reckon by mothrathegreat · · Score: 1
    I have a beowulf cluster of these under my desk.

    No Seriously there's a shitload of them down there!

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  76. Canadian Beer? by thebes · · Score: 1

    Now I'd like to see him try it with real beer from Canada! Boo*hic*yah!

  77. Undo copy protection with beer? by dysprosia · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you spill beer on a copy protected CD (you know, the kind with induced errors on it), does the fungus distort the errors so they disappear?

    If so, will the fungus be sued under the DMCA?

  78. Re:What a load of shit. by Lysol · · Score: 1

    Yah. All the track did was drop samples. Frankly, I as hoping for some weird morphing of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but alas, all I got was dropouts. I hope the author does not write a paper on this as it is unstupendous in the least. Boo...

  79. Beer soaked CDs by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

    This guy not only spills beer on his CDs but leaves them that way for so long that they grow fungus. I can only imagine what his bathroom must look like, or his personal hygiene. God knows where else he has fungus growing, *ugh*.

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  80. Is his name... by ColonBlow · · Score: 1

    DJ Yahoo Serious?

    man, that never gets old.

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  81. Beer Goggles by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 1

    And I always thought it meant having your taste in women dangerously affected by your intake of alcohol.

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  82. This Webpage is the way Science SHOULD Be! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm tired of going to science websites that DON'T have Bikini girls. That's what science needs to be taken seriously, more Bikini Girls! And the massive emphasis on beer makes it a Hooome Runnn with *this* hard-drinking girl-loving quantum physicist.

    Yup, I'm bookmarking this one, for sure. As my favorite politician says, "I'll be back!"

  83. Science? by Free+Bird · · Score: 2

    Please, people... This isn't science. This just shows how a CD's error correction copes with relatively mild distortions. It's little more than gadgetry.

  84. No, indeed. That's not what concept art is about. by Tom7 · · Score: 1

    > There's no art to it...

    The result of this kind of concept art isn't a piece of work that's enjoyable in a traditional way. Instead, it stimulates interest--positive or negative--and discussion about what art is. For instance, fractal geometers have often been slandered as not producing "art" because their pictures are created by mathematical formulae. (However, these pictures are usually enjoyable in the standard sense.) Now, on the other hand, we have a biological entity "creating" music, and it sounds shitty, but will those anti-math critics consider it "art"? Perhaps it's not too deep, but there is certainly some art to the idea, process, and presentation, if not the result.

    That said, IMO this work is totally overblown. There is nothing special about the way bacteria damage a disc. For instance, I can say for sure that his damaged jpegs have exactly the same qualities as my totally random corrupt program.

  85. Hiccup... by JohnwheeleR · · Score: 1

    Imagine a beowulf cluster of one of these... Hiccup...

  86. um, this isn't anything big by DirkGently · · Score: 1

    My dauther gets crap on my DVDs all the time.

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  87. New music and computer companies? by Damn_Canuck · · Score: 1

    So, if beer can create a "new sound" as it were, and it has successfully assisted in the creation of a "biocomputer", then what can the world look forward to? Paul Hogan promoting Foster's 2.5MHz "Head"less PC? I hope that's not what this world is coming to... And dear God, please PLEASE do not let any company use the Crocodile Hunter in any more promotions...

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  88. I wanted to like this article by JayBlalock · · Score: 1
    I mean, a scientist who can get published in journals that also owns a nightclub and DJs? How cool is that?! But then I listened to the tracks.

    Maybe it's just me, but I heard virtually nothing about them that sounded different than any number of scratched-up CDs in my collection. (except for the slightly interesting distort on Trent's voice in Hurt) You could likely get about the same effect by holding a zippo up to the CD for a few seconds.

    He gets props for discovering a highly novel new way of destroying CD players, and for being generally cool, but that's about it.

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  89. Australian scientists and beer by Gallowglass · · Score: 2, Funny

    Didn't we have story a year or so ago about some Aussie boffins researching the physics of the "fall" of bubbles in Guinness? (Do the bubbles go up or do they go down?)

    I'm beginning there might be some connection between Australian scientists and foamy malt beverages. But, YMMV.

  90. hey! by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

    Don't throw water on the beerputer parade!

  91. Allready Copyrighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    SCO commented that it allready holds a copyright on part of the source code (ingredients)for this Beer. SCO claims that Miller, Budweiser, etc., illegaly obtained this code (known has Higher Open Protocol Syntax or HOPS), and must pay a licensing fee in order to remain legal in production.

  92. Beer spilled on cd's makes a computer? by anethema · · Score: 1

    Alllllright, I already HAVE a beowulf cluster of these!

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  93. Drunken singing by bace · · Score: 1

    Beer brings out many peoples musical ability. Well manly drunk people

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  94. better idea: beer for the musicians by kaltkalt · · Score: 1

    I think it would be infinitely more beneficial to the music to supply the musicians with beer (and other drugs, preferably pot and heroin) versus fucking up your CDs with fungus. Of course, it's not an either-or, but the musicians presumably know what they're doing and what sound they are after. Random (and that's what it is, no matter how many times you use neato k-spiff l33t words fractal and branches) fungus growth on a CD does not add anything special to the music.

    Interestingly, if you add beer to both the CD, to fuck it up, and the listener, to fuck them up, I think both effects would cancel each other out.

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  95. Oh please! by Rothron+the+Wise · · Score: 1

    This is moronic at best! It's like firing a shotgun at Shakespeares works and expecting improvement.

    I found the treatment of DVD-discs to be especially silly as the types of MPEG-2 corruption artefacts you are likely to get are pretty predictable.

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  96. troll generating perl-retrieved database column by gorjusborg · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Examples are given for both prokaryotic and eukaryotic cellular interference with optically stored data. Differences in cellular parameters such as organelle density, refractivity, and gross morphology (branching versus aggregation) are shown to impact on error correction using the Cross Interleaved Reed-Solomon Code."

    Holy crap. You could have just said, "Hey, when I grow shit on my CD's it sounds funny."

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  97. Finally... by AirDave · · Score: 1

    Someone came up with a use for beer.

    It's about time.

  98. Looks like a DVD from Hollywood Video... by willith · · Score: 1

    I watched the "Snow White" video sample linked to on the guy's page, and it looks exactly like what any other scratched or dirty DVD looks like. I rented "Gods and Generals" from Hollywood Video a few days ago and encountered the same phenomena because there was a big splatter of dried something-or-other on the surface of the disk.

    So, this guy has clips on his web site of skipping music and DVDs. That's great. This guy should be working in somebody's marketing department. "As your product ages, it will inevitably acquire what appear to be scratches, but are actually nano-scale utility enhancements!"

  99. I spilled beer once... by lhpineapple · · Score: 1

    and left it on the cd for a couple hours. When I played it many, many drinks later, Madonna started yelling and cursing at me.

    Yep. Definitely the beer's fault.

  100. Serendipity by pokeyburro · · Score: 1

    Y'know, serendipity being what it is, it's surprising there aren't more inventions throughout recorded history which involve beer.

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  101. CORR BLIMEY!!! by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 1

    This bloke's made a living off of his clumsiness. 'Ere Vroomfondel, how come we don't think of things like that!?

  102. Another missed opportunity by Angst+Badger · · Score: 1

    I once took a piece of water-damaged paper that had grown a few patches of fungus and scanned them in at 1200dpi. I thought it was pretty cool-looking.

    What did not occur to me -- and this is obviously why I am not climbing the ranks of academia -- was to call it an optical biocomputer and write a paper about how the underlying shipping manifest was altered in "interesting and meaningful ways."

    Of course, if I was sloshing beer all over my music collection, there's no telling what I might come up with.

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  103. electric rakes, Tom Ze, etc. by bodrell · · Score: 1
    Unless you're the type of person who only listens to music played on a six string guitar, "farking up the media" is in many ways equivalent to creating new instruments. In the past, such experiments were usually no more than noise, but there are several notable exceptions.

    I personally know Eugene Chadbourne, from Greensboro, NC, who often invents instruments such as the electric rake. Another was rubber super balls (like from a vending machine) with pickups stuck inside them, so the bouncing sound could be output through an amp (or computer, or whatever).

    In Brazil, Os Mutantes and Tom Ze, members of the Tropicalia movement, did some really crazy stuff to their instruments/sound systems. David Byrne (Talking Heads) liked Tom Ze so much that he rereleased some of his music on the Luaka Bop label (subsidiary of Warner Bros, I think).

    Someone else mentioned Kid Koala, but Aphex Twin, DJ Spooky, and Squarepusher are a few electronic artists who have been especially innovative. Given the capabilities of samplers these days, experimentation like this beer/CD thing can have much broader implications than the mp3s this guy made. I understand that creating new instruments is not exactly playing with the media, but what about a song that samples the crackles and pops of an old LP? Or a vocal track recorded on really low-fi equipment (I'm thinking of "I Can Hear You" by They Might Be Giants, recorded using old wax cylinders ala Thomas Edison).

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  104. Funding by BinaryForces · · Score: 1

    I just hope the funding for this "research" doesn't have any public components.

  105. If you want to hear something "meaningful" by eples · · Score: 1

    Just pour the beer right on the speakers. Then punch holes in them. Now ALL your CDs will sound different.

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  106. Biocomputer? by Aetrix · · Score: 1

    I once sneezed beer onto a CDR. I would think that was much more "biocomputing-like" but the cd never worked again.

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  107. Oh great by BluedemonX · · Score: 1

    Ph.D Thesis

    Like, this thesis, by oh eh hello I'm Bob, and this is by brother Doug, how's it goin' eh, anyway, the Canadian government's decided that based on this research we're now computer scientists, eh. Yeah, eh, we've come across like a revolutionary like improvement on like the original research, eh. Turns out that back bacon grease also works like a computer, eh - but you need to drink like a lot of beer to figure it out eh.

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  108. Alas, Slashdot. by the_REAL_sam · · Score: 1


    I remember a time when getting slashdotted was quite an accomplishment. Today, it's some drunkard spilling beer all over his music collection, and playing the CD's b4 rinsing them off. =)

    >oo -hic- oo

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  109. I don't get it by sacrilicious · · Score: 1

    CDs have solomon-reed error checking codes on them. When bits are changed, these errors are detected. For small enough errors like just a few missing bits, the player responds by interpolating the waveform; for bigger swatches of errors such as those caused by groove-aligned scratches, the result is an outright dropout/skip... NOT a change of pitch, tone, etc as alleged by the article in describing the effects of beer/yogurt/whatever. I don't even feel motivated to try the described procedure... as a character on the Simpsons once said, "I make it a point not to turn my head if I don't expect to see anything."

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  110. More Beer by Ridgelift · · Score: 1

    Wow! I just spilled beer on my Windows 95 CD, popped it into my computer, and it installed - and I can't crash it!

    Completely unpatched, I've thrown every virus I could get my hands on. The result? Nothing! I've discovered a version of Windows that actually works!

    Unfortunately, after contacting Microsoft, they've already brought legal action against me. Seem that they knew all along how to make Windows work well, but it prevents them from making money since Windows problems make them billions in support services and upgrades.

    It also explains why Linux is so stable: Beer = Perfect Code. That is, it worked when I used Canadian beer, but I can't seem to get the same results with Budweiser or any other US brands. Any thoughts?

  111. actually.... by MoFoQ · · Score: 1

    this might be a good way to make an otherwise shitty album (which is about all of the stuff that's being produced now) and improve them by just a tad.

    Let's just hope they don't patent the process: of SPILLING BEER on things!!!!

    MoFoQ gets his trusty ol' pitchfork and flaming torch handy just in case.

  112. ARGH! They are everywhere! by Lord+Graga · · Score: 1

    Ohh no, there are like, billions of funguies (is that the correct plural?) in this world, and what if some of them holds popular songs or pieces of code!

    I think that RIAA and SCO are going to try to sue these fungies, and they are going to pay! Yeah!

    What will be next? Maybe my pudding will devolope a new software language... What a special thought... How do I even dump data from puddings?
    Should I stomp them flat and put them on a CD?

    Probably.

  113. Does that means Mustang I drove as a teenager... by leftie · · Score: 1

    ... was really the Starship Enterprise? I knew I sold that car too cheap.