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Where Is Spam When You Want It?

Sean writes "In a complete twist to what everybody else is trying to do these days, I need to attract spam to an e-mail address for a research survey I am conducting. I have submitted a few articles to a handful of Usenet groups, and I have signed up to some general mailing lists but so far I have nothing to show for it. How come by personal account gets 100+ spam each day yet when I try to find it I get nothing? Where should I post my address so that it attracts spam?"

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  1. Outlook... by krray · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I ran an experiment to do just this... Originally USENET (a decade ago I did that one), web pages, etc... Hundreds of trap address' across many of the domains in my control -- harvest and block 'em early has been my general method... :)

    I recently took 1 Windows 2K box (SP2) and put it directly online in the DMZ type zone. Do NOT patch it and add no virus software. Load some trap address' (never used before) into the Outlook address book.

    It took twelve (12) minutes from plugging it in to getting many, many infections, to the final spam. Typical time is 3-4 hours usually and I've seen the test go for as long as 8 hours.

    How many people do you know that use Outlook and may have your email in their address book? The bitch of the matter? No Windows here anywhere, well, except for VirtualPC which makes such tests so damn easy -- too bad Microsoft had to buy them up too...

    1. Re:Outlook... by dboyles · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you do this, are you willing to be responsible if someone hijacks the machine and uses it to commit illegal/unethical acts? I know, it's unlikely that this would happen, but knowingly putting an open machine online with the intention of having it compromised is asking for trouble. It's one thing to not know any better, but it's another to be apathetic to the situation.

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      -- "Complacency is a far more dangerous attitude than outrage." -Naomi Littlebear
    2. Re:Outlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've done it a half a dozen times now -- and yes, it was monitored and some-what controlled. At the routing level outbound traffic to obvious ports (21,22,23,25,53,80,110,143,443,etc) was throttled or blocked. Unfortunately some infections use mail or web ports to call home...

      A full tcpdump was also in progress (just watching :), logged, and looked through various ways. Honey-pot anyone?

    3. Re:Outlook... by KrispyKringle · · Score: 3, Informative

      Isn't this (more or less) the point of a honeypot? Granted, the owners would presumably step in if they saw anything extremely dangerous going on, but this is fairly common,tried-and-true practice. Ever read _The Cuckoo's Egg_?

    4. Re:Outlook... by dboyles · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't think I'm calling for honeypot operators to be arrested for setting out some bait. I think it's fine. In fact, I think it's a good addition to a security infrastructure. But dropping something insecure out in the open with full knowledge that it will probably be compromised and then likely used for undesireable activities isn't responsible.

      Perhaps I should have made that point more clear initially.

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      -- "Complacency is a far more dangerous attitude than outrage." -Naomi Littlebear
    5. Re:Outlook... by dboyles · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you leave a box of goodies outside your house, you may be asking for trouble, but you're not accepting responsibility for someone stealing it.

      Okay, let's talk about the box of goodies. Let's say you leave a box of weapons outside with full knowledge that a neighborhood kid will probably find it and will likely use the contents for something illegal. If that happens, do you think you are partially responsible for whatever happens?

      Before you jump all over me for such a hyperbole of an analogy, no, I don't equate running an insecure machine with handing out a small arsenal to the neighborhood kids. But I think you might be able to see my point given so many peoples' reactions of "What kind of parent leaves a gun where a kid can get it?" seemingly whenever a video game violence article is posted.

      Take note of the bold text in the first paragraph. It's key to my point. If that box of weapons was in a place that you could reasonably assume wouldn't be accessible by the hypothetical gunman, I wouldn't place any blame on you, the owner.

      So no, you're not responsible for other's actions, they are, don't be stupid.

      You're exactly right - you aren't responsible for others' actions. In this case, you'd be liable for your irresponsible action.

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      -- "Complacency is a far more dangerous attitude than outrage." -Naomi Littlebear
    6. Re:Outlook... by dboyles · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ethics and law are two entirely different (and sometimes diametrically opposed) things.

      Very true.

      It is not illegal to set out a machine to be compromised.

      Perhaps not criminally illegal, but I believe the owner could certainly be held liable for damages. Imagine if a virus writer put a destructive virus on a stack of floppies and left them precariously around a public computer lab. When the program on one of those disks gets run by some curious person, don't you feel that the virus writer is at least somewhat liable, even though he didn't "pull the trigger"?

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      -- "Complacency is a far more dangerous attitude than outrage." -Naomi Littlebear
    7. Re:Outlook... by GloomE · · Score: 2, Funny

      No. If you wander into a chemistry lab and out of curiosity suck down a random test tube..... is the Lab Manager responsible?

    8. Re:Outlook... by kd5ujz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, assuming there is no labeling, and with the legal system what it is, you could definitely be held liable. Ever wonder why there are warnings to not light fireworks while they are in your hand/mouth? In this day and age, you have to assume everyone is an idiot. If your server does not have a legal disclaimer, you may very well be liable.

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      -William
      God is everything science has yet to explain.
    9. Re:Outlook... by GloomE · · Score: 2, Funny

      That would be an example of Darwinism. It's frustrating that we expend resources to reverse a system (survival of the survivable) that has benefitted us for so long. Our reality has changed somewhat from 40,000 years ago, but then so has what it means to be viable and what it take to survive. I don't see why a plaintif's terminal stupidity should be a good argument, although I'm sure it has been.

    10. Re:Outlook... by MrLint · · Score: 2, Interesting

      shall we extend this for a second to the nth degree and see if your analogy holds up. Lets say the person that sells these weapons to people and he knows (because of all the market studies ) that more than 50% of the people buying this 'box of weapons' leave it out for kids in the neighborhood to play with and do illegal things. Who is liable now?

    11. Re:Outlook... by RumpRoast · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IANAL, but I don't think that ignorance of a law is a defense at all. If "putting an open machine online with the intention of having it compromised" were illegal, it wouldn't matter if you were negligent, ignorant, or had alterior motives: you would still be guilty.

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      My Ass hurts.
    12. Re:Outlook... by circusnews · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I was about to use one of my mod points in this thread, when I came to this post.
      Okay, let's talk about the box of goodies. Let's say you leave a box of weapons outside with full knowledge that a neighborhood kid will probably find it and will likely use the contents for something illegal. If that happens, do you think you are partially responsible for whatever happens?
      dboyles goes on to make the point that does not equate running an insecure machine with handing out a small arsenal, and that you aren't responsible for others' actions, you are only liable for your irresponsible action. These are both points I agree with, but the analagy used still bothers me.

      Gun's are designed to kill. Computers are not designed for cracking/spaming/etc. If you leave a chain saw out in your back yard, knowing that the kid down the block is (1) a bit whacked, (2) could be a potential danger, and (3) should not be on your property, are you partially responcible for when he kills some one with that chain saw? Now, what if it is the kid on the next block that could be the danger? Or the next city, county state of country? At what point is it no longer reasonable to expect that the public to know something is a threat?

      It used to be enough to run a virus scanner every so often. Now you have to start by patching your systems regularly, then move on to running regularly updated virus scanners, installing and updating firewalls for the network, scanning for spyware, installing and updating desktop firewalls, updating spam filters, chasing drivers, updating applications (add more from the endless list here), all to keep a system going. So I ask again, at what point is it no longer reasonable to expect that the public will know something is or could be a threat?

      And at what point does the public feel that it is no longer reasonable to expect them to know something is or could be a threat when it comes to that "harmless little box on the desk"?

    13. Re:Outlook... by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When the program on one of those disks gets run by some curious person, don't you feel that the virus writer is at least somewhat liable, even though he didn't "pull the trigger"?

      This scenario is good, but let me share one from my highschool days:

      Our computer science department ran on a bunch of old MSDOS computers with no built-in virus scanning (if a computer was behaving oddly, the teacher would come around and boot from an antivirus floppy, and it would be all better). In those days, the popular viruses all spread via floppy boot sectors. Because of this, nearly every floppy anyone used at school was infected with the virus.

      So, if I forgot my floppy in the computer and someone else rebooted the machine, is it my fault if that computer gets the virus? What if the computer already had the virus?

      --
      If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
    14. Re:Outlook... by Ymerej · · Score: 2, Informative

      Okay, let's talk about the box of goodies. Let's say you leave a box of weapons outside with full knowledge that a neighborhood kid will probably find it and will likely use the contents for something illegal. If that happens, do you think you are partially responsible for whatever happens?

      ...

      You're exactly right - you aren't responsible for others' actions. In this case, you'd be liable for your irresponsible action.


      Yes, that's exactly right. This is what's known as an attractive nuisance

    15. Re:Outlook... by digidave · · Score: 5, Funny

      Knowlingly install a system from the manufacturer's CD and running it on the Internet? The horror! The horror!

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      The global economy is a great thing until you feel it locally.
    16. Re:Outlook... by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2, Interesting
      "How many people do you know that use Outlook and may have your email in their address book? The bitch of the matter?"

      There is an easy defence against this:

      Let's say your real address is your.name@yourISP.com. Tou need to first set up a sneakemail address. Use this address as the 'from' address in your e-mails. Then set up your 'name' as "Your Name [your.name-at-yourISP-dot-com]." This way, the sneakemail address (which can be changed whenever spam comes in) will appear in lusers' outlook address books, and clueful people will just copy the real address from the 'Name' field.

    17. Re:Outlook... by racermd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, if it's a honeypot, it is probably monitored at least somewhat regularly. If it ever does become a problem, someone would be able to pull the plug on the machine, both logically and physically, in pretty short order. Yes, 10 minutes is enough time for someone to do some serious damage with and/or to a compromised system. But a close eye on things should keep the damage to minimum.

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      My sources are unreliable, but their information is fascinating. -- Ashleigh Brilliant
    18. Re:Outlook... by zbuffered · · Score: 2, Informative

      "How many people do you know that use Outlook and may have your email in their address book? The bitch of the matter?"
      There is an easy defence against this: ... bla bla sneakemail bla bla

      That works just fine, but it gets even easier:
      Own your own domain.
      Have your e-mail setup to forward *@yourdomain.com to your actual e-mail address.
      Never give anyone your e-mail address. Give everybody different e-mail addresses to e-mail you at. Your friend jenny can e-mail you at jenny@yourdomain or whatever she'd like.
      When you sign up for something, use an e-mail address like theirproduct@yourdomain or theirdomain.com@yourdomain.
      Then you always know who's sending you what e-mail, and if one of the aliases gets bogged down with spam, flag it, bounce it, do as you will.

      I bought my domain for $30 for 2 years, including the mail service (I don't have the resources to set up my own mail server). It works great and I don't get any spam.

      --
      Synergy is your friend
    19. Re:Outlook... by MADCOWbeserk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think you are entirely wrong in your suggestion that honeypots are irresponsible. Honeypots provide a way to track and monitor the latest exploits and hackers. In fact if a hacker uses a honeypot in his activites he is much more likely to be tracked and caught because he hacked a logged and monitored machine.

    20. Re:Outlook... by Splab · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That would be the US. Here in Denmark a case like "There wasnt any warning on my firecracker GIMMIE MONEY" would be thrown out faster than the fuse on said item.

    21. Re:Outlook... by amRadioHed · · Score: 2, Informative

      The creator of the nuclear weapon didn't pull the trigger, but by your argument is somewhat liable for killing millions of Japanese. Aren't we, the scientists, just doing experiments?

      Einstein didn't think so. He was a major influence in the creation of the nuclear bomb, and he did take responsibility for it, calling it the greatest mistake of his life.

      http://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein.shtml#fir st

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    22. Re:Outlook... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 2, Funny
      He could always blame it on the kids watching "War Games"...

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      Sent from my ASR33 using ASCII
    23. Re:Outlook... by ^Case^ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Isn't this (more or less) the point of a honeypot?

      More or less yes. The major difference is that with a honeypot you make sure that there's only a way in -- you make it impossible for the offender to use the honeypot to carry on attacks from the honeypot. And that does not seem to be the case in this example.

  2. Hotmail. by pi_rules · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sign up for an account there, forward the spam to your new mailbox and start following links to advertisements and such. If they ask for your email address, give it to them. Won't take long.

    1. Re:Hotmail. by norsk_hedensk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      yeah but if they ask for you email address and you give it to them, it is not spam anymore. spam is unsolicited. you giving them your email says that they can email you. unless they say they WONT send spam, but yeah, thats gonna happen.

    2. Re:Hotmail. by napoleonin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't know where Hotmail gets such a bad reputation from. I've had the same account there for 5+ years, and I get hardly any spam at all (5-10 spam messages per day).

    3. Re:Hotmail. by caferace · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe your girlfriend is pretty serious about you getting a penis enlargement and some viagra. Ever think about that, smart guy?

    4. Re:Hotmail. by jonadab · · Score: 2, Informative

      > Maybe I'm paranoid, but I can't stop thinking that's MS fault!

      It's been a couple of years, and their EULA has probably changed two
      dozen times ad interim, but when I actually read Microsoft's privacy
      policy, it essentially said, in heavy verbiage, "we will sell your
      address to whomever will pay for it". By heavy verbiage, I mean
      something of the form, "may share said contact information with
      select business partners in order to provide value-added services"
      or some such rot. If your eyes glaze over at the first hint of
      weaselese, you wouldn't catch it, but it seemed pretty clear to me
      that they were saying they would sell my address. Maybe I'm just
      paranoid, though. After all, Microsoft is a very reputable company,
      as everyone here knows, and so maybe I'm just not giving them enough
      benefit of the doubt in my poor understanding of EULA verbiage.

      --
      Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
    5. Re:Hotmail. by Hoser+McMoose · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hotmail gets a bad reputation because it is attacked FAR more than any other mail server out there, with the possible exception of AOL. The problems with Hotmail are two-fold:

      1. There are so many users of hotmail that you can easily end up with a previously used address (so even if you never give out your e-mail address, the previous owner of that address may have signed up to all sorts of crap). What's more, anytime someone puts out their hotmail address with a minor typo (either intentionally or accidentaly), it is usually a real address belonging to someone else.

      2. Hotmail is CONSTANTLY being dictionary-probed by spammers. They have been subjected to this sort of dictionary-probe attack for over a year now. This is especially a problem for people with short (6 characters or less) usernames. If you have a username that is in any way related to a word or name and is fairly short, you will be probed.

      Another major problem with Hotmail is that until recently it always opened all remote "images" by default. Almost all spam now comes with a "tracking image", which is just an HTML "IMG" url that points to a script to record your e-mail address. End result, if you open the message, the spammers know they have a live address even if you don't click on anything. Hotmail now has the option to disable remote image loading, though I don't know if it's turned on by default or not.

  3. Some options... by mgcsinc · · Score: 3, Funny

    Register with every "reputable" company with a "privacy policy" you can find, and make purchases with them. Register a domain with the addy. Put the addy on tons of those little fill out cards that you have to mail in from magazines for free this, free that. Buy subscriptions to tons of Pr0n sites with the addy. Instead of usenet, post on several pay or exclusive product-support forums, where spam-runners can be assured of sure-fire hits. Damn! It's expensive to acquire SPAM!

  4. Post it here by dhawton · · Score: 2, Funny

    Me as well as other slashdotters will send you some of ours. We don't want it (I hope).

    1. Re:Post it here by RDFozz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, this is not necessarily a bad solution, and could provide a useful experiment.

      Get spam sent to other people with "opt-out" instructions. The common wisdom has it that a significant number of the opt-out deals really verify your address for spammers. Try asking for your e-mail address to be removed (even though it's not really there), and see what happens....

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      R David Francis
  5. usenet isnt that great by Shaklee39 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try signing up for a few mailing lists for marketers. Usually they will sell these to other companies who will in turn sell it to other companies and so on. Most email addresses are not spammed by having it available on google but rather giving it to the companies that do the spamming.

  6. Domain registry by jhines · · Score: 4, Informative

    I get spam from my domain registry, which has an email associated with it. I get the Nigerian stuff this way.

    1. Re:Domain registry by dboyles · · Score: 5, Funny

      Amazing. Even after you made your millions from underground African money transfers, you still find time to post to Slashdot. What character! I can see why Igwe Emanuel thought you good enough to do business with.

      I, on the other hand, will be out of here as soon as the transaction is complete. So long, suckers!

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      -- "Complacency is a far more dangerous attitude than outrage." -Naomi Littlebear
  7. Why not by Alystair · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You want spam? You should have put in your email address into the submitted article...

  8. same problem by steveargonman · · Score: 2, Funny

    I had to get on some spam lists for an experiment as well. I signed up for everything you could imagine and recieve less spam on that account than my other accounts.

    1. Re:same problem by Oestergaard · · Score: 5, Funny

      Write a HOWTO and put your real e-mail address in there.

      Worked for me ;)

  9. Porn sites are your friends by fleafan · · Score: 2

    Just put your email adress in a lot of those 'get free pr0n pictures every day!' Works wonders. I heard.

  10. Murphy's Law part2... by Jonin893 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will.

    We all know that the Spam won't show up if you want it. That's against the very nature of spam.

    All annoying things always happen every time except for the one time you try and prove the phenomenon to a non-beliver. Well known fact.

    Good luck at finding the spam (wow, I never thought I'd have say that.)

    1. Re:Murphy's Law part2... by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 2, Informative
      It's called the Law of Non-Reciprocal expectations:
      • Positive expectations yield negative results.
      • Negative expectations yield negative results.
      A special case of this is the demo effect: The best way to make your pride-and-joy crash on the first keypress is to invite your boss's boss in to watch it run.

      Likewise, the only way to attract spam is by trying to avoid it.

      --
      This is not my sandwich.
  11. Ebay by NetDrain · · Score: 5, Informative

    Make an ebay account with your email address in it and just start bidding. This is an excellent way to ruin an otherwise perfectly good email address. I was doing all right on the spam front until I did this. Big whoops. *hits head on desk* Yeah, stupid me.

    You'll quickly become inundated with "How-tos" to Ebay, "official" emails from Ubid by people attempting to fraudulently gain access to your personal information, more tips-and-tricks, more offers from uBid, and of course a plethora of marvelous online drugstore advertisements.

    Enjoy.

    1. Re:Ebay by djrogers · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, I can't speak to your specific circumstances, but I've been using a specific ebay-only email address for 3 years now, and have not had one single spam sent to it. Bought and sold plenty of stuff too... Perhaps you need to re-check what little information sharing checkboxes you forgot to uncheck with ebay?

      --
      Think outside the... Hey, where'd the friggin' box go?
    2. Re:Ebay by Lost+Race · · Score: 2, Informative

      Same here. I had one seller decide that my transaction with him was an "opt-in" for his monthly advert spam, but he LARTed easily enough. I've never gotten any random MakePenisFast or WindowsInfectionDuJour spam on my Ebay-only address.

    3. Re:Ebay by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He's talking about making your ebay nickname contain your email address. E.g. instead of setting your nick on ebay to be JohnSmith78 and putting your email address in ebay's system, you set your nickname to be "johnsmith78@aol.com".

      Ebay specifically discourages this because lots of people have had their passwords to ebay stolen by people sending them fake email pretending to be from ebay and asking for their password for "security purposes".

      graspee

    4. Re:Ebay by Izago909 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      About 3 or 4 years ago I started buying things on ebay. As a student, I spent much of my day on campus. Many times, if I needed to get on the internet, a workstation wasn't always available or convenient to get to. The school did have many old 386 and 486 linux boxes that did nothing more than ssh into PINE for email. These things were all over the place. So sometimes I need to be notified of bidding while I was out. Without thinking, I had these sent to my school account. Nobody outside of friends, family, or school related people ever got my address besides ebay. In one year's time, I was getting so much spam that my account (60M quota) would overflow up to 3 times a week. I found myself logging on between classes to delete 30-50 messages. Eventually, I paid the school $25 to give me a new name on the network. This time, I still have only given my address to friends, family, and school related people... but no ebay this tame. 2 years later I still have to get one piece. It should be noted that my school has promised to NEVER use any sort of filtering. They cite censorship concerns, but I have some thought otherwise.

  12. Free porn sites? by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seems like there's more than a few people suggesting signing up with free porn sites to get spam.

    Personal experience?

  13. use online greeting card companies by Indy1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    also try porn sites, gambling sites, and more importantly, paste it on slashdot. My spam trap address here gets hit ALL the time, usually several times a day, which has helped me greatly in tuning my firewall.

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    Lawyers, MBA's, RIAA? A jedi fears not these things!
  14. If you want to be scientific, don't by gunner800 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you deliberately bait spam, your research will only be about spam as it effects bait e-mail accounts. Your conclusions won't be applicable to normal e-mail use habits.

    Want to survey spam as it effects a normal, real-life, daily-use e-mail address? Get a new address and starting using it as your primary account. Anything less will be irrelevant statistics.

    1. Re:If you want to be scientific, don't by Dobob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would have said the same thing, but that would have been redundant.
      But, it all depends on the precise of your study (you should have been more precise when asking here). Here is some possibility of studies and how you should act :

      1- Which actions get you the most spam : create many new email accounts. Paste slashdot@... here, suscribe to pr0n with pervert@, post to Usenet with usenet@, ... and yada yada yada, you got the point. The check the spams each account got after some time.

      2- What spam do specific people gets : get the spam real people got for the last n days. A university teacher shouldn't have the same spam as a child or as ./ reader. You should ask them before to remove all their anti-spam protection.

      3- What constitute spam : just do anything you want. Try everything you think of to increase spam, you need quantity, not quality.

  15. a sure method by Alpha_Nerd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Give it to some of your friends and relatives, soon you'll recieve 20 or so joke chain letters every day...

    1. Re: a sure method by EinarH · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am only recieving wicked screensavers from my friends you insensitive clod!

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      Melius mori in libertate quam vivere in servitute.

  16. 'Unsubscribe' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    In your own inbox, get a couple of hundreds of spam.

    Take the urls (DO NOT CLICK ON THEM) and strip them of the stuff after the '?' .....

    Go to each of those 'unsibscribe' pages and put the test account in the email to be removed box.

    Its the best way to get spam. The spammers will generally use it as confirmation that your address does indeed exist, and theyll happily put you in their alive list, where you are shure to get everything they are selling.

    1. Re:'Unsubscribe' by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I actually tested that not too long ago. I made a hotmail account, did not use it, or publish the address anywhere. After two months, I found I was getting 10-15 spams a day. So, I started using the 'unsubscribe' links in all of them. In two weeks, I was down to 1-2 spams a day.

      Finally, after another two months, it was back up to 8-12 a day. So unsubscribing did seem to work, rather than hurt.

      --
      Another non-functioning site was "uncertainty.microsoft.com."
      The purpose of that site was not known.
    2. Re:'Unsubscribe' by bluGill · · Score: 2, Interesting

      General wisdom suggests that some of those companies do unsubscribe you, but then they sell your email as a verified good address. By unsubscribing you they can claim in court that they are honest and ethical, afterall they can prove they unsubscribe everyone who requests it. Selling that address is sleezy, but they figgure they have a better chance of getting away with things, plus make some money.

  17. http://www.spamarchive.org/ by foonf · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was in the exact same situation, actually, and found spamarchive.org to be very helpful. Any one of the files on their ftp site should have enough spam to keep you busy for a while.

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    "(Man) tries to live his own life as if he were telling a story. But you have to choose: live or tell." --Sartre
    1. Re:http://www.spamarchive.org/ by whizkid042 · · Score: 3, Informative

      spamarchive.org is nice, however if you take a look at their stuff you will notice that all of the headers are messed up (because folks forward the spams to spamarchive). I was looking for a large collection of SPAM to train spamassassin with and found spamarchive.org to be unacceptable because the email headers were tampered with.

  18. Spamarchive by endquotedotcom · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why not just download some from spam archive?

  19. What's worked for me... by Dinosaur+Neil · · Score: 2, Informative

    Based on a friend's suggestion, I created an alternate e-mail address and used it to create user IDs on classmates.com and match.com and, sure enough, until I kill the ID months later, I was getting 30+ spams a day after my ISP was done with its own filtering. I wasn't being very scientific and I don't know if it was one or the other or both, but it's a place to start...

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    "I'm a scientist! I don't think, I observe!" - Dr. Clayton Forrester
  20. A few thoughts by rdean400 · · Score: 4, Informative

    - Post a comment on Slashdot with the e-mail address visible
    - If on a popular e-mail provider such as AOL, Hotmail, or Yahoo, put up a profile and go to a chat room.
    - Allow your e-mail address to be listed on any of the directories.
    - Put your e-mail on a Geocities website.

  21. Change your thesis. by CGP314 · · Score: 5, Funny

    New research shows spam no longer a problem!

  22. You're best bet by edthemonkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think your best bet for simulating spam would be to give the account to a 14-16 year old kid for a week or two. One of the types that plays stupid games and talks to their friends on messaging programs all the time. They drop their email addresses all the time without really thinking about it.

  23. It's easy. by NerveGas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Put it on a web page which gets any moderate amount of traffic. I did that with some spam-bait addresses, and it's amazing how much they generate. In a few months, they've identified over 22,000 unique servers sending spam.

    steve

    --
    Oh, you're not stuck, you're just unable to let go of the onion rings.
  24. Research Survey by becktabs · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Research Survey" = getting back at evil ex-girlfriend.

  25. Lots of Contests by jarito030507 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Enter your email address into as many contests as you can. Those things have absolutely no reason to exist except to farm email addresses.

    Some links of the sweet, sweet google:
    Here
    Again
    And Again

    If you search for 'contests' and click on the sponsored link then you should have an abundant source. Also, if you sign up for a few of those "Free" trials at porno websites, you should start to get some serious spam.

  26. Try Free For All Links style sites.. by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 2, Informative

    That and better yet the sites that will submit your web site to hundreds of search engines. That will get you to the FFA style sites quick. I did this when I needed an account to test SpamAssassin on. Worked like a charm. Better yet, give /. ers an Email and we can set a forward to you of some junk.

    Hey I got plenty!

  27. Posting in public forums by AEton · · Score: 2, Informative

    Post to Google Groups on many well-frequented lists (don't cross-post!) with the address. Sign up for a Slashdot account and write generally informative (+5! +5! +5!) tripe with your real email address tied to it.

    You also should've specified the test email in your story submission (i.e. Sean writes:) -- too late for that now, of course. In the slashdot@myname.endjunk.com emails I've provided, I've easily gotten 10+/day within a few hours of first posting. Neat.

    --
    We recently had heard in the office over one of the Yellow Machine that's made by Anthology Solutions.
  28. Look at my email addy... by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 3, Informative

    I made up a semi-bogus email addy, it's real in that mail sent to it gets to me, but when I'm done, I'll flush it down the tubes.

    I used it to attract spam so that I could train spamassassin for my use and for a few friends and family.

    I went and dropped it all over usenet in the pr0n groups, went to every viagra site I could find, clicked on every banner add I saw.

    It took a few weeks but I finally got the desired results. You'll have to put up with some extremely offensive email for awhile so make sure the wife and kids can't get to it during this phase.

    After doing this for a few weeks I was getting 50+ spams a day. Now that I have spamassassin all tuned up I just don't check mail on that account. Once I feel that I no longer have the need to tweak SA, I'll just dump the account..

    Too bad this doesn't work for TV commercials...
    HEY! How about an app that, er, nevermind...

  29. worked for me by pretzel_logic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Buy a throw-away domain name and post an index page with a email address. you could also use the method where you record the IP address of the spider by generating the email address on the fly. with [IP of spider]@domain.com and then set up a catch all email box. then you are monitoring the spiders ips and the mail servers ips. this idea was posted on /. a few months back but I couldnt find the link.

    --

    pretzel_logic
    1. Re:worked for me by seizer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not a throwaway domain, but:

      http://xult.org/email.html

      Surprisingly few spams have arrived. I suppose the page isn't that high traffic.... yet ;-)

  30. Spam heaven is right at your doorstep! by pongo000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Simply respond to your own post here on /. with your e-mail address. /. is a spam magnet. The majority of spam I receive is from an e-mail address I used to use here that I quit using over a year ago.

  31. Or in other words... by chimpo13 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hi, I'm pissed off at someone and would love to get them bombarded with spam. No, I don't think that'll work on slashdot. Better say "research" instead of "pissed off". Yeah, that should work.

  32. Ask Slashdot by roystgnr · · Score: 5, Funny

    "My deadbeat roommate has pissed me off once too often. On a completely unrelated note, I'm looking for ways to attract lots of spam to an email address for... er... research. Yes, research sounds plausible."

  33. try this one by SHEENmaster · · Score: 4, Funny
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    You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
  34. That depends by dmiller · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you deliberately bait spam, your research will only be about spam as it effects bait e-mail accounts. Your conclusions won't be applicable to normal e-mail use habits.

    The relevance of a baited addres depends on how one does the baiting. I'd say that a handful of usenet posts, pasting it to a couple of web pages, use of it to create accounts on websites (e.g. here), etc would be very representative of common patterns of address disclosure.

    1. Re:That depends by MMaestro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Thats true, but "common patterns of address disclosure" also varies based on the user. Slashdotters, for example, are usually intelligent enough to avoid the pitfalls of trap webpages people like Joe Average fall for. Because of that, the spam e-mails you'll get will vary against the type of spam between Jenny Girl seven year old who gets cartoonie spam while Grumpy Old Man seventy year old will get youth-restoring spam.

  35. I Have Your Answer by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where should I post my address so that it attracts spam?

    How about the front page of Slashdot?!? That ought to help you out a bit.

    /me shakes his head.

    --
    I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
    I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
  36. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by refactored · · Score: 2, Funny
    Have you noticed that a lot of spam these days has encrypted messages attached to it?

    Looks like....

    wplqc r uesdpq
    y tq
    vr
    wcvixv qaowp
    go xz
    hfcjlf o ejni hxkqgftfhdw xgm
    ct edtt
    onzfkwsp gui

    I have been collecting them as I spot them, when I have enough samples and enough time I will have a bash at decrypting them.

    So if you want to add a flourish to your thesis, you can also figure out what they are using the encrypted text for. (Probably some sort of tracking to measure success of campaigns.) I will happily send you my collection of spam + encrypted messages.

    It did occurred to me that if you were a distributed illegal group that wanted to communicate in a way that was untracable from you to the component cells, you could do worse than sending out spam + encrypted message to millions of random addresses, some of which are your cells.

  37. Domains are wonderful by sunF · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For the past couple years I've forwarded all emails for a domain to one account. Whenever I give out my email, I give their website/company@my-domain.com and try to insure they will not spam by doing the usual unsubscribing. Classmates was a violator, however I went back through and reunsubscribed and rarely get anything. The worst offenders I found were morpheus-musiccity, iseekyou(icq), and my-domain. Hotmail was pretty bad when I originally signed up because I didn't unsubscribe at passport.net.

  38. How about a dictionary lookup by willy134 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I happen to have several email addresses that are like my username here. I get spam for willy001 willy002...willy134...willy156.... If you set up an email address on a domain that is very well spammed (hotmail excite yahoo...) with a name like john12345 and that might induce spam.

    --
    Can you ping me now?... Good!
  39. wait longer? by forevermore · · Score: 2, Informative
    How long have you waited? Though some people here talk about getting their honeypot addresses spidered in a matter of hours, you do have to rememeber that even if the spam spiders are running 24/7/365, it may take them awhile to get back to the pages and articles that you posted (my guess is that usenet groups are also prioritized pretty low, as I know people who post there often, and have for a long time, and never received spam to those addresses).

    The best way to get spam? Put your email address into a popular HOWTO, or run a 3-letter domain (a friend of mine gets about 2/second to his three-letter domain). And be patient.

    But if you want some of mine, I'm happy to get rid of it. ;)

    --
    Do you really need reason for beer? Wingman Brewers
  40. For real spam... by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You have to make sure you click the opt-out check boxes if you're signing up places. If you go to a porn site and sign up to recieve mail from them it's hardly spam. Yes, I know you'll still get a lot of stuff you didn't ask for. But since this is for research, it seems like the distinction ought to matter.

    --
    Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/
  41. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by ceejayoz · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not encrypted data - it's merely random text intended to throw off spam filters.

  42. Send one of those e-greeting cards by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2, Informative

    Specifically, not one that's from an actual brick and mortar greeting card maker. 9 times out of 10, you'll be sure to be not only adding YOURSELF (the sender) as a future spam victim, but whoever you entered as a recipient for the e-greeting card.

    --
    All I know about Bush is I had a good job when Clinton was president.
  43. Use a control group by Kehl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Create Several Email Addresses - Be scientific ...

    Address 1 - (Control Address) Post No Where and read no messages until the testing time is over

    Address 2 - Post On Usenet (Deja.com)

    Address 3 - Post In Public ICQ program

    Address 4 - Porn Sites

    Address 5 - IRC

    etc .....

  44. My Spam corpus by orthogonal · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have an address I used for about three months on usenet, only in the comp.lang hierarchy.

    I may have used it for a few web sites, but the only one I recall is a local political organization which I doubt would have sold, or had the expertise to sell, its list. Still, the data is tainted, and I can't say it all comes from usenet.

    According to DejaGoogle, I last used it 18 April 2002, and it was last referenced in a follow-up message 5 May 2002. I first used it 15 February 2002.

    For a while I had my ISP forward mail to that address to "nothing" until I worried it might be piling up on the server somewhere (I don't know what forwarding to "nothing" means in the ISP's web control panel). So there are no messages for most of the month of May 2003.

    Disregarding the emails from the political organization, there are 1733 emails; the earliest is dated 16 July 2002, the lastest today 21 Sep 2003. (There are probably earlier emails to this address which have been archived.)

    So that's a span of 432 days, not subtracting the period when I wasn't having the email forwarded. Again not subtracting the un-forwarded days, that's ~4 per day.

    Note that this is only spam to this particular "sacrificial" address; it does not count the large amount of spam that, thanks to having some idiots as "friends", hits my "real" address.

    I have not been subject to any dictionary attacks on my domain name, but I have gotten about 105 spams to admin@mydomain in the same time period. This pushes the daily average to ~4.25/day.

    Since I started getting a lot of spam, I've made a practice of assigning each commerical contact or mailing list a different address (theirdomain.tld@mydomain.tld generally); surprisingly, these get very little spam, despite getting large volumes of legitimate mail each day.

  45. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by Fesh · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's what they want you to think!

    *looks left, looks right*

    --
    --Fesh
    Kill -9 'em all, let root@localhost sort 'em out.
  46. Wait. by MisterFancypants · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think you have to wait, as from what I understand most of the people who spam actually buy spam lists from other people. The spam lists seem to be compiled like phone books, so they send out batches of addresses like every month or so. I'm sure your mailbox will be stuffed to the breaking point about two months from now.

  47. How are Porn sites NOT my friend? by GoofyBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Your first 30 minutes alone on the Internet should tell anyone that.

    --
    The surprise isn't how often we make bad choices; the surprise is how seldom they defeat us.
  48. Who you use as an ISP is important by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Is the account you want spammed provided by the same ISP as your personal account? It sounds like the ISP you are using for the research account might be doing a really good job killing off the spam before it ever gets to you. In order for the research to be uncorrupted you need to verify that your ISP passes all e-mails through to you, rather than spam filtering.

    --
    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  49. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by CaptBubba · · Score: 2, Interesting
    They aren't blocks of encrypted text. That text is there in an attempt to throw off spam filters. I think the idea is that if a certain amount of the message is unknown to the the spam filter, the filter won't flag the messgae as spam.

    Also they break up words to avoid spam filters, like the following spam I recieved:

    "Ge ni tal Enl arge ment - Me dic al Bre akth rou gh F or Me n ! 2 a m azi ng wa ys to e nl ar ge y our man h ood - re ad bel ow..

    D oct ors work ed for ye ars crea ting a p il l to en lar ge t he ma le ge nit al ia b y len gt h a nd wi dt h.
    T he ye ars of wo rk p rodu ced a pi l l c al led "V P R X", - V P R X P i l l s inf o c li ck her e .
    a nd al so a pa tch simi lair to the qu it sm o king pat ch . - P e n i s P a t che s i nf o cl ic k her e . "

    I just hope they don't discover this, which is much more readable and still produces the same filter avoiding results. Fortunatly Bayesian filters learn these tactics and significantly reduce their useable lifespan. Expect to see the face of spam change more often and more dramticly with the widespread adoption of such filters by AOL and others.

  50. Why isn't Microsoft responsible? by dcavanaugh · · Score: 3, Insightful
    After all, it's their product that set the stage for all of this.

    1. Re:Why isn't Microsoft responsible? by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "After all, it's their product that set the stage for all of this."

      Microsoft isn't responsible for people's actions. Would you want Redhat to be responsible of an exploit was found in their distro of Linux?

      Me personally, I'd want them to be encouraged to fix it (i.e. risk losing sales etc.), but I wouldn't want them liable for somebody else being a shithead.

      Liability in a case like this is a double-edged sword. Besides, every time something like this happens, everybody gets stronger. Microsoft (eventually) fixes it, the Linux Community has something they can make sure never happens to them (as well as Apple, etc.), and end users get stung and learn better computing practices. Me personally, I run Windows everywhere. Thanks to all these exploits (though none have hit me yet), I'm much better about making backups and I'm far less dependent on Windows being reliable. If I switch to Mac or Linux, then I'm a smarter user in those cases as well.

      So, in short, spare us the 'Microsoft should be responsible' argument. Don't stick Microsoft with a responsibility that you wouldn't want your own favorite OS (developer?) to fall under.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  51. Send yourself a Free!! E-Greeting!!! by perp · · Score: 2, Informative

    I recommend NewFunPages for getting lots of spam to an account that never used to get spam.

    Then start clicking on the Unsubscribe links.

    --
    There are two kinds of sysadmins: paranoids and losers. I'm both kinds.
  52. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Funny

    That isn't any sort of encrypted text. It is simply a (pathetic) attempt of evading filters...

    You insensitive clod!

    You've ruined the poor boy's dream!

    Just think of the hours of fun he could have had "cracking" the "code".

    Just think of the elaborate code -- and equally elaborate conspiracy behind it -- he might have created in a desperate obsession to make his data fit his theory!

    It could have been a new formularization to rival the Illuminati, Ancient Astronauts, secret codes in the Bible, or some other tortuous, contrived theory! Why, he might even have constructed the ultimate conspirarcy theory, a religion!

    But no! You had to cruelly disillusion him. And rob us of the fruit(iness) of his labors.

    For shame!

  53. SpamCop's list of websites == Game Over by Nat3d066y · · Score: 5, Informative

    So you want a lot of spam, do ya?

    http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=inprogress&typ e= www

    That's Spamcop's list of spam-vertised web sites. All of those sites have submission forms; just put the email address in there and you'll be rockin' and rollin' within a few hours. I got into a 'spam war' with one of my roommates back in college, and with that Spamcop list I was able to render his email account COMPLETELY useless within a couple of hours (If you're reading this, sorry 'bout that Brian... )

    Speaking of spam, on a random side note, I've recently started checking all of my email accounts with Shadango.com. Anybody else tried that yet? Shadango allows you to have advanced filtering applied to ALL of your existing accounts (both POP and IMAP). It's frickin' great. So now I don't get any more spam, plus I can check all 5 of my email accounts from one place. They've also got file storage, a calendar, etc. It's money. Check it out.

    -Nate

  54. Shadango.com, fo sheezy.. by KevinHanson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, I got an account on there a couple of months ago. It's definitely very cool.. it can even check Yahoo/Hotmail accounts.

    I always just used my Yahoo account to get spam when I signed up for stuff online. BUT, just today I found out that Shadango allows you to generate temporary, 'disposable' email accounts. See, you generate a random email account, sign up for whatever online (using that new account), and all the crap goes to the temporary account, which you can delete/change at will.

    It has definitely helped to cut down on the amount of spam I get. Kevin Hanson recommends it highly.

    -Kevin

  55. free shadango account? by Brainiac252 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yo, I was involved in the alpha testing of shadango awhile ago. When I signed up I used the word "alphabase" in the promotional code box. It got me a paid tester account...i think it might still work. From my experience Shadango is definitely worth the try. Ian Welsh

  56. Easy way to attract spam for filter testing by CEO+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Look up FFA on google and submit your E-Mail to thier forms. You should within minutes get a constant stream of spam that will never ever end.

  57. All you need to do by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 2, Funny

    Register a domain with Verisign, and put your target address as a contact for that domain.

  58. Some solutions by nuwayser · · Score: 2, Informative
    --
    "The cup... the drop... it's a YES!"
  59. Re:Symantic Police here by dosius · · Score: 2, Funny

    And while we're at it, it's semantic ;)

    -uso.

    --
    What you hear in the ear, preach from the rooftop Matthew 10.27b
  60. BlueCat Networks....masters at combatting SPAM by RazorJ_2000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    BlueCat Networks www.bluecatnetworks.com have this really cool product called Meridius. It's an anti-SPAM Mail Relay appliance. Typically sits in the DMZ. Why don't you contact them and ask them about SPAM?

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    pi=sigma{n:0-infinity}[(1/16)^n][(4/(8n+1))-(2/(8n +4))-(1/ (8n+5))-(1/(8n+6))]
  61. Attractive Nuisance (was Re:Outlook...) by Tripp+Lilley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What you're describing is called the attractive nuisance doctrine , and really only applies to the situation with the neighborhood kid, not to an adult upon whom different expectations are placed.

    One could argue that the real issue is negligence , but proving negligence turns on the phrase (from the referenced definition) "the care of a reasonably prudent or ordinarily careful person in the circumstances".

    It's unclear whether or not you'd be able to point to an "average user" and call them "ordinarily careful", in which case you'd definitely be doing about what's average. It might, instead, turn out that the court would say "you're a professional, a sysadmin, and we hold you to a higher standard of "reasonable prudence" by virtue of your knowledge of the consequences. This would be analogous to the trained fighter or black belt getting into a fistfight and whaling on some poor schmoe. Regardless of who "started it", the fighter is going to be held to a higher standard of control and "carefulness".

    Of course, that said, you could also use a defense based on trespass, in which you argue that, because the attacker was not authorized to use your system, as long as you weren't specifically stockpiling "munitions" there :-), you're not liable for the attacks based out of your system. I'm not sure what case law in the real world says about this. If you left your front door open and a sniper walked in, sat down in your living room, and started taking potshots at passers-by, would you be liable? Would the court say that, because you failed to lock your door, or deadbolt it, or whatever, you were negligent?

    Tough to say, these days.

    Thankfully, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't have to worry about such weighty theoretical issues :-)

  62. Outlook = Virus? by chiasmus1 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Perhaps not criminally illegal, but I believe the owner could certainly be held liable for damages. Imagine if a virus writer put a destructive virus on a stack of floppies and left them precariously around a public computer lab. When the program on one of those disks gets run by some curious person, don't you feel that the virus writer is at least somewhat liable, even though he didn't "pull the trigger"?

    I agree with you, but at the same time I also believe the issue is not the same. The machine with Outlook installed is what Microsoft provided. Using your arguments you could argue that installing Outlook on a machine is the same thing as putting a destructive virus on a floppy and leaving it in public place. Wouldn't the creator of the software/virus be held liable?

  63. click on it... by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 2, Informative

    and see who it's to :)

    --
    It's nothing but crumpled porno and Ayn Rand.
  64. On Slashdot!?! by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't have a girlfriend, YIC.

  65. Re:FREE pr0n by evanbd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Every time? how often do you do this, anyway?

  66. Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption. by refactored · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Are they really that lame?

    It wouldn't stop any spam filter I have seen.

    Ah well, probably some ISP out there has such a silly filter.

    I was envisioning something smarter along the lines of hidden fields (have a look at ye average web form , a lot of them have hidden fields to hold state and tracking info).

    For example as I type this, let me look at the "Page Source". Ooo lookee, on slashdot itself....

    <input TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="formkey" VALUE="wkbUcMWxhR">

    I'm thinking along the lines of...

    If builders built the way programmers wrote then the first woodpecker to come along would destroy all of civilization

    ie. Workout the encoding for the hidden fields and tweak them to freak out any automated processing software the spammers use.

    A similar idea is to feed carefully crafted cookies to web servers to crack them.

    For example, I would guess that the spammers spam each newsgroup / discussion list with a slightly different URL, the URL goes exactly the same place but records which spam campaign produced the best results.

    Now tweak that URL in crafty ways and you may DoS their server.

  67. I've got heaps 2347 messages in ... by chris_sawtell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... 22Megs, because I've been saving it to train Spamoricle.
    Post your e-mail address here and I'll send the spam.tar.bz2 file to it.

    There, what could be more helpful?

  68. I didn't see anybody post this method... by PhoenixOne · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...but I'm not reading every post. ;)

    The best (worse?) way to get spammed is to fill out online survey. You know those free online IQ tests with the inflated scores (I scored 182 and I have problems doing my taxes ;))? If you use your real email address you will feel very dumb about a week later when your mailbox fills up with "Get a collAge degree at home!!" mails. ;)

    Also start sending those cute greeting card emails to yourself. Most of those are just collectors for emails.

    I think they stopped cruising USENET for emails. To few people use their actual emails there anymore...

    --
    Spell cheek you've failed me four the last thyme!
  69. It'll take time by trenton · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You've got to understand how the system works. The same people (or system) that collects email addresses won't be the ones to send it. Consumer/producer model.

    I'm sure your now addresses have been harvested by a number of systems already. You'll have to wait, though for a client to buy a list, or another wave of mailings to go out before one is sent to you.

    --
    Too big to fail? Does that make me to small to succeed?
  70. Re:Any honeypot will do by terminal.dk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I tried to put up what looked like an open proxy on port 8080, which simulated the right error codes in in case people connected to port 25 out in town.

    Within a week I was getting 100.000 spam mails a day. Within 2 weeks I was over 1 million spam mails a day.

    So just pretend to have an open mail server, and you can get all the spam you want, and harvest all the addresses you care about.

  71. A hack for getting spam into a honeypot. by Berkana · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here's a neat trick that I figured out for building a "honeypot filter" that identifies and blocks all incoming mail that matches the spam harvested in a honeypot e-mail address before any e-mail is delivered to personal mail accounts. Since the honeypot address is used for nothing else but harvesting spam, using the spam received in the honeypot to identify and block incoming spam guarantees that there will be never be false positives (which is more than most filters can say). If the honeypot is being spammed by the worst offenders, you can be sure the spam that is being received there is being sent to millions of others. This honeypot technique is one of the simplest solutions for reliably blocking spam, but it is contingent on having the honeypot being very thoroughly spammed.

    So, here's the hack for getting a honeypot address into the databases of real spammers.

    First, you need an existing address that is thoroughly infested with spam. If you look at most spams, they usually have some thing at the bottom that says something to the effect of "click here to be removed from our mailing list."

    In some of the spams that I've looked at, the link has CGI script variables in the URL. You'll probably see the e-mail address in one of the fields. Replace this e-mail address with the address of the honeypot address, and go to that site.

    The page you go to will usually have two options: "remove me from your list" and "Please continue to alert me of special offers". Select the latter, and submit the form. The e-mail address you substituted into the CGI script will probably start receiving spam real soon.

    Some spammers will spam you even more if you click on the "remove me" list, because it just proves that the address is live. Before you click on the link, copy it, and edit the field in the CGI script that looks like an e-mail address, substituting the honeypot address for the one in the link. Then, go to the URL and "remove" yourself. You are likely to just start getting spam in the honeypot, especially from unscrupulous spammers.

  72. Geeks are inquisitve... by 4mn0t1337 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Heh... you put a label like that on something and the first thing I think of is

    hmmmm... this must do something really interesting to the computer or disk to have a warning like that...

    Next step would be to see if I could induce what the intent behind the restriction would be. If I couldn't reason it out, then I might be tempted to try to dupe the disc and put it in another computer (*Always* mount a scratch monkey.)

    In fact, putting an admonition involving tech in front of a geek is like putting something bright and shinny in front of some people.

    but on the other hand you just found a way to physically "tar pit" a geek for a better part of an hour....

    --

    ______
    Once: you're a philosopher. Twice: a pervert.

  73. Got Spam? by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 3, Informative

    "In a complete twist to what everybody else is trying to do these days, I need to attract spam to an e-mail address...


    Much harder than it seems. A spam trap address can take months or even years to get up to the same levels of spam as other addresses.

    Some techniques;
    Unsubscribe the address.
    Apart from proving that some spammers actually do harvest from unsubscribes, this method isn't very effective, because some spammers actually do remove you from their lists.
    (of course, if you only unsubscribe addresses that don't get any spam, it can't get worse.)

    Dictionary attacks. If you run a mail server, you will occasionally be attacked. Either pick easy to guess names, or accept any name that fits a rule. It's a good idea to always reject the first name (unless it's already in your lists) since some spammers start with a 'test' name.
    Also, there will be plenty of names tried, so there's no need to accept a suspiciously high percentage. Choose a simple rule that rejects a fair percentage of the names.
    For example, accept any name which has a '5b' as the last hex character when hashed.
    If your server has any extra delays after a bad name, remove them.

    Buy expired domains.
    Some of my best trap addresses are from previously owned domains.

    Posting to usenet.
    I've not had much luck with this.

    Posting to mailing lists.
    This also seems fairly hit or miss.

    Posting to websites.
    Works eventually, but it can take a long time.

    Setting them in Ineternet Explorer.
    Some web sites have javascript that can grab your email address from your browser.
    (bonus points if you write this up in a proposal)


    When you get spam...

    Read the web pages. Once you actually get spam, either read it in a browser, or download all the links with wget. Some spammers are paying attention, in particular it seems, the ones who sell addresses to other spammers.

    Respond. When you get one of those weird messages like "Are you the same noc-staff I went to school with?" Respond with a simple "sorry, wrong guy."

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  74. Enter some contests by superflippy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Online sweepstakes are a great spam generator. Sign up for Publisher's Clearing House and opt-in to everything.

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    Your fantasies contain the seeds of important concepts.
  75. Register a domain, and join match.com from hotmail by dspyder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Easily the three best ways to collect spam are to create a hotmail account. Then register a brand new domain with that address publicly available. Then join match.com (I think they still offer a free trial of some kind) and watch the spam pour in.

    My wife created a unique (with numbers) hotmail account when she joined match.com (we met on matchmaker.com) and used it only for that purpose. Today she gets hundreds and hundreds of spam on it even though it's been entirely inactive for 3.5 years!

    Match customer service claims they don't sell addresses and that it's hotmail's fault. Either way, the two together seem to be a quite effective spam trap

    Of course, if you're just looking for a corpus of spam to test against, there's plenty out there. Google for +"spam corpus" to find several good sites.

    Hope that helps....

    --D

  76. Run for office and post your email address. by rleibman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously, I ran in 2002 and made the mistake of giving my prefered email address to anyone who wanted to contact me, of course, every newspaper in my district posted it on their website, leagues of voters same, etc.
    I now get about 50+ spams a day... nicely controlled with spamassasin.

  77. How to attract spam by lost+in+place · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here are two controlled studies of which activities attract spam, and how much:

    "Why Am I Getting All This Spam? Unsolicited Email Six-month Report"
    "The Great CNET Spam-off"