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Unreal Tournament 2004 Goes Gold
psyco484 writes "Unreal Tournament 2004 has gone gold, the game will be in stores on March 15th. After an impressive demo, I'm certainly looking forward to this one." There are several improvements over UT2003, but my favorite is the ability to carry dual assault rifles.
The vehicles in the Onslaught mode have to be the coolest addition ever!!!
Is it even possible to carry two assault rifles simultaneously in real life? sounds a bit heavy...
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But I had a problem when I tried playing it at a resolution other than 1280x1024. I couldn't read some of the text (especially when trying to join an internet game). Another problem that UT2k3 had was the size of the maps. Even with a broadband connection, transferring a 10 MB map takes a looooooong time.
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sweet now it is gold, i wonder how long it will take for a full copy to be leaked, i give it 2 days.
I can't wait now for Red Orchestra 2.0 using UT2004. Hopefully this will generate more intrest in this awesome mod.
But when I play it now, there's usually only one server with people playing on it. It's ashame because this is such a great game that tries to be more realistic. Like no floaty crosshairs, get shot with a bullet and you die...not 50 bullets while you jump around like a chicken.
It still needs work, but the guys making it are listening to the people playing it. And with ut2004 and all kinds of tanks sitting around, can't wait to see what they do with the new engine.
"Music is everybody's possession. It's only publishers who think that people own it." - John Lennon.
With a demo already out, it looks like MacSoft will have this out for OS X almost at the same time as the PC version. Sweet.
This guy is way out there
I've been playing the UT2K4 demo on both Windows and Mac (yay PowerBook) and the community chatter is right -- disabling audio results in framerates jumping anywhere from 50% - 200% faster. I hope it's a bug and not just the base requirement for UT2K4 audio!
This miht be a silly question, but is this a usual case of Windows version only without specifically mentioning it is?
Or are the Mac and Linux versions also gold? The article didn't specifically mention, but when that happens I usually suspect it referring to window's only
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I must admit, while I love the various flavors of UT, I dislike the naming convention. The same problem sports games have: once a year, they will seem out of date. They're basically making themselves stay on a once a year schedule: let's be real, how many gaming companies can do that (HL2, Doom 3...deadlines go to hell). And, unless there's actual changes, I would rather not buy a new version every year just to keep up with the online play (though I know you can always play the old versions). That said, I want this game. The vehicles are great, as is the gameplay and graphics in the demo.
Will this be including the Linux version of the game, like 2003 did? Maybe they'll be nice to us this time and put a notice on the box stating Linux version included.
Does anyone else but me miss the original Unreal? That game had such an awesome atmosphere, with cozy cabins, the enormous sun spire and that city in the clouds.
Yea, sure. Just send $20,000 US to this Nigerian Prince I know, and I'm sure we can work things out...
I had this problem but discovered it was because the display settings for my Ti4200 were at "performance" rather than "quality" (right click desktop, settings, advanced, directX, blah, blah). It's probably because fonts are treated just like textures and are reduced in resolution along with everything else. It seems to me there's no difference in speed between performance and quality settings, so it's no loss - and it looks way better anyway.
Hope that helps... it certainly had me puzzled for a while. I think they need to at least add this to the FAQ.
I absolutely loved Unreal and UT. UT2k3, Unreal 2 and UT2k4 were horrible for me. Nice graphics, utterly stupid gamplay. If you liked 2003, this game may appeal, otherwise a waste of d/l time. Call of Duty and ET are waay better, actually requiring some brain. Just my 2c
I got the collector's edition for 40 bucks, comes on DVD with a nice logitech headset and bonus dvd. It also has some kind of emblem that adds either 50HP to your car or 2ghz to your pc (whichever you apply it to)
You can read the requitements on http://www.unrealtournament.com/ut2004.
Also, while you are there, read the forum thread on n00b Raptor camping and the posters that the fans have made up. You'll laugh up a lung, guaranteed!
Regarding systems, I had been on an Athlon XP 1600+, with PC133 SDRAM and an NVidia Ti4200 64MB card. When I started playing the demo a couple of weeks ago in Linux and Doze, I decided to upgrade. The demo is soo awesome. I never played UT before, as it always ssemed to be a bunch of bunny hopping clowns. But, I digress; I did buy the SE DVD edition.
My new system isn't anything extreme, as I always go for the sweet spot on the price/performance curve. I got an Asus A7V8X-X motherboard with 1.25GB of PC2700 333MHz RAM. AMD XP 2800+, same GF4 4200, added cooling and overclocked it to 4400 speeds. And I got a nice Lian Li case to put it in, and keep it cool. ~$250 for everything but the case. The gorgeous LianLi 6077 from Directron.com was $165 with PS.
I play in 1280x1024 or 1600x1280 at 32bit color and get ~75FPS. The benchmarks give me between about 45FPS and 350FPS, depending on what's going on.
It plays well on an 1800+ (~1600MHz). I'm sure it plays very well on 3200 systems, but it's not necessary. though maps like Onslaught and the physics models are very CPU intensive, and the performance is not bound to graphics processor. Build a system with a good balance of memory, internal bandwidth, CPU and graphics,and you should be fine.
Plays beautifully on Mandrake 9.2 with NVidia modules.
I can't wait to get my boxed set. My studies are really suffering.
Nothing more than UT2K3's
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..should rush out and buy this game and then send a mail to one of these people, letting them know that the fact that the game ran on Linux was one of the factors that made you deside to buy the game.
Bacially, thank them for their support of your favorite platform. And let them know you are always looking for quality game titles running linux to buy.
That won't hurt the chances of future ATARI distributed games being ported to Linux.
get thee back under thy Redmond bridge, foul Troll! Ballmer, is that you?
I dual boot Win2000 and Linux, and it plays fast on both. It plays faster with better transparency and OpenGL rendering on Linux than Doze. My Claw controller works better on Doze, however, so it is a coin toss for me.
I definitely plan to play more under Linux than Windows. I contributed to a thread on the uT2004 forums with FUD spreader n00bies like this troll, and intelligent Linux users could make good points for the uninitiated there.
I specifically PAID my money to Epic games _because_ they gave such a great Linux and Mac OS X demo. Companies who "get it" regarding Linux should be rewarded and pubblically thanked and respected. We need to broaded the community for gaming. Far too many k1dd13z believe that GNU/Linux doesn't support great games.
Thanks Epic/Atari!!
As already pointed out, it will run on Linux, in fact, there is a 64-bit version for Linux. Download all versions of the demo here.
This move by MacSoft (although I'm sure is making them bust their asses) to bring out the Mac version ASAP is so very respectable in my opinion. I don't buy many games, but this is one where I can't wait to throw my money at its creators. Too bad MacSoft isn't taking direct preorders :(
Sounds like you need to get a better computer, turn everything ON, and crank the reasolution to 1280x1024... then maybe you can stop being bitter that your system sucks and enjoy the game!
The Onslaught game is so totally not decided in the first 30-40 seconds. I was in a game yesterday that took 52 minutes. That's right! Thes server did not have overtime mode turned on (this is usually at 15 mins, and get triggered a lot). I've been in many games where the tides turned against the team that looked like they were going to win.
The rocket launcher has been replaced with Anti-Vehicle rockets.. I'm not sure if you understand this or not. And it can hold a lot more then 3 rockets. I do miss the pistol though..
Grenades may suck, but spider mines are definitely nice. I think the vehicles are implemented much better then they are in Halo.. the Manta, for one, is the perfect vehicle for running over groups of unsuspecting members of the opposite team.
What do you have against the gun turrets? They give you both an inside and outside view (press F4; this works in everything you can get inside), let you zoom in, and are VERY powerful. What more do you want from a gun turrets?
I agree that UT2003 was dissapointing.. but UT2004 just plain rocks in my opinion.
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Voice recognition is the besst feauture for me, I'm surprized it's not being mentioned more. All that you have to do is download MS speech SDK, train it and then the fun begins:
_ 1. php
ALPHA GET OUT! the bot will exit the vehicle, or
EVERYONE DANCE!, lol
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The dual weapons (pistols? assault rifles?) were there but it was so much more dark. It was an extreme sport setting with somewhat realistic human (future) characters. I really miss that.
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Enjoy such new features as onslaught, assault...and good old backstabbing.
...if you can't be bothered to post the specs of the machine you're trying to run it on. It's completely meaningless.
"The pistol is gone; it was highly accurate"
Pistols aren't supposed to be accurate. You cannot snipe people with pistols. If a game allows you to do such a thing it's rediculous even for a fantasy world.
If you like unlimited firepower with "can't miss" weapons, feel free to use cheat codes in single player or continue playing the original. It's not like there's a shortage of maps or players.
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The 7 CD version or the special edition 2 DVD pack?
> But will it run on Linux?
Yes
> Thought not.
That makes no sense. Yes it does run on Linux
> Yet, this same crowd who hates Microsoft with a passion still
> love the precious windows games.
Yes I hate windows, I havent run it this century. I'm still an intense gamer. I don't play Windows games
> Hypocrites.
Having a little argument with yourself there Mr. Slow minded?
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The biggest things I missed from the original were a real sniper rifle and Assault mode, both of which are back in 2k4 :D :D)
Although they kept the "lightning gun" sniper rifle clone in the game for some maps. I guess to keep down on the campers in certain areas. It can be hard to see snipers in the foliage in certain areas (I know first hand, even with the lightning trail giving away your position, someone has to be looking to see it
All in all, must of my gripes about 2k3 (which I didn't buy) are gone now, and I'm almost certainly going to buy it. I just hope they fix the lag that makes it hard to walk on an elevated platform without falling to your doom.
" Companies who "get it" regarding Linux should be rewarded and pubblically thanked and respected."
It's not that they don't get it. It's that a AAA successful game sells 40,000 copies in the Linux market. The problem isn't lack of respect for Linux, it's that there isn't enough of a base to be reasonably successful in that market.
You want more games for Linux? Start encouraging others to use it. Want a good suggestion for that? Burn a few Knoppix CDs and give it to peeps who run Windows. If they're reluctant, say "Put it in next time Windows shits itself." Sooner or later, they'll get it. In the mean time, learn to live with the fact that the gaming industry isn't going to be interested in Linux until they can associate the word 'Millions' with it.
"Derp de derp."
Actually the best way to make sure your copy is associated with Linux is to play the retail version online as our masterserver keeps track of the last OS used to connect to it (per CD key).
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I wish they'd push Linux support a little harder. I mean, you can't find concrete verification anywhere that if you buy the Windows copy it will work on Linux. Now, I know it does, but thats because I found a screenshot of the back of the box somewhere. No online store mentions it.
This is an excellent game. I was never a big fan of FPS but the "onslaught" mode in UT2004 has me hooked. Excellent mix of combat and strategy, the controls feel right, and the vehicles are really fun.
I still haven't played the standard "deathmatch" and "capture the flag" modes (and I am not really in a hurry to try them).
There is much more to be had here then in previous Unreal titles.
you obviousally dont have a god grasp on onslaught "link the power nodes" game.
you can easily turn the tide towards the end of the game if your team is skilled enough... one camper in a tank on the hill overlooking the enemy's vantage point blowing to hell every vehicle that re-spawns will allow you to overrun that power node quickly.
I suggest you play it with some people instead of AI only.
oh and nothing feels better than driving a pickup recklessly into the enemy base and jump it into their power supply, jumping out of the vehicle in the air and watching it crash into their cell as you launch a few rockets into the truck and target winning very VERY quickly.
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[...] but my favorite is the ability to carry dual assault rifles.
I'm guessing this is like in every other game, you still aim them together?
I was thinking that it would be interesting to experiment with individual aim for dual-weapons. You could have 'hold RMB and move mouse to aim second gun' (would subsume looking around) and 'hold RMB and press LMB' to fire.
But it guess it would be odd to controll one weapon as "an arm" and the other like usual (that is "where you look you fire"), so then you'd have to do the same but in reverse for the "left" gun, which I'm sure few gamers would like. Maybe for an option...
Just a thought.
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The thing that stands out about good games these days are their replay value it seems.
I keep finding that those "play through the game once and forget" games hardly get any replay value, whereas games like GTA (especially the racing, taxi, and police missions) and Unreal have endless replay value because of the underlying game involved is actually fun, with many variations on the theme...
(which reminds me of the Atari 2600 games, which had more variations on the theme of a particular game than you could shake a stick at - I think there was about 26 variations on Space Invaders alone!)
In that way, Unreal Tournament and the original Quake III have a kind of replay value that the original Pac-man (with all those patterns) and the Street Fighter series (with all those characters) had.
The frustration that other "3D tourism" games have (where you get stuck in one part and have to solve a puzzle to get to the next bit). Just doesn't hold up to replay value. Once you finish it, you throw the CD into the cupboard.
We need to see more games like this, and not the next Madden 3005 - if Madden is still with us by then.
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"...the biggest thing to ever hit multiplayer gaming...the granddaddy of all multiplayer competition...most exciting multiplayer title ever to grace the PC." Somehow I doubt these spurious claims. I remember playing Quake III Arena and the original UT (in fact I still enjoy playing both), and those were the biggest things ever to hit multiplayer gaming. The adrenaline rush from playing at breakneck speeds against human opponents was fantastic! Initially, I had to decide which one would get my $50, and went with UT because of the different gameplay modes. I was highly disappointed with UT2003, especially since the assault mode was dropped. I'm glad to see UT2004 has assault mode back in, but I'm still looking forward to Doom III and Half-Life 2 far more than this release. Carmack: Where's my Doom III? It's been nearly a year since I asked that last!
Actually, they have mentioned specifically (like at the bottom of this Mark Rein post), that the demo has NO cheat protection at all, because it would give that crowed a head start on the final version. They also mention that they will update the demo once the full game has been released for a little while, to include cheat protection. Its good to see that they are not only serious this issue, but they have put some thought in thier strategy.
I've seen a few posters comment about rendering speed increasing if sound is disabled, but that's not really an option for a serious player... if you can't hear where the shooting is coming from (or hear the footsteps of the person tailgaiting you) you're not gonna last very long. So turning off the sound isn't a serious option.
Also, just in general I'd say the frame rates on the mac are a lot slower than on the PC. Are they even bothering to use hardware accelleration? It feels like I'm back playing the original Unreal Tournament on my Wallstreet with its sucky graphics speed, and yet this is a fairly new tibook. My fps drops to around 4 or so during heavy action.
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The only two games that get much coverage on /. seem to be Quake, Doom3, and Unreal(x).
/. press when it had like 20x the number of online players than Q3 had, at the time, and getting modded as a troll.
Meanwhile, BF1942 and others get little coverage -- even though other titles were the ones to pioneer 64 player servers and larger maps.
The only thing I can figure is the old school FPS game with a gun that fires the EXACT same while running at a scale speed of 38mph, jumping, etc.
I remember posting the same question about Counter-Strike getting no
Personally, being a seasoned player of FPS titles since Wolf3D, I prefer games that have some level of chance when it comes to firing a perfect shot. Getting 18 consecutive headshots in MP with a sniper rifle is just lame after a while.
I also play paintball a lot, which is fairly inconsistent when it comes to accuracy. I've also got a couple of scoped rifles I enjoy doing some target practice with sometimes. Even with the bipod extended and laying prone, I can't hit consistently within a foot at 100 yards. Mind you, I have some eyesight problems.
This just makes the running and shooting perfectly thing in Unreal and Q3 just too cartoony for it to be fun.
I wonder if they fixed the OpenAL driver. In Demo, I was never able to enable my mike, although the sound worked perfectly.
Agreed. UT2K3 worked just fine on my old P3 700 MHz and a GeForce2; boosting the RAM from 128 to 256 made it almost flawless. I'm now running a P4 2.8 GHz and 512 RAM with an onboard Intel graphics set and the game still runs beautifully; I imagine that uninstalling 2K3 to make room for 2K4 will cause no noticeable difference in performance (no broadband for the duration of my unemployment, so I haven't picked up the demo).
It's been my experience that missing one or two of the "minimum requirements" by a short amount (say, having a 733 MHz when it says 1 GHz) is still within acceptable limits when checking out. It's also been my experience that if a game's demo is out first, it does a hell of a lot in the way of allowing potential customers to gauge what they'll need. I applaud Atari and Epic for bothering to care about their customers, and you can bet that the next game I buy is going to be the deluxe DVD set.
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That's doubly important for games which are multiplayer-oriented. Even if you have a wintel machine you may very well have friends into gaming who don't. And such games are nicer to play when you can frag your friends...
If some opponent is on the redeemer spawn spot, and you have control of a flying vehicle (not sure on the name) :)
Spidermine it first, then lightly scrape over the floor while flying past the high-redeemer spot : The spider mines will jump off, and target any enemy on top of it :
Great fun
Back on the subject, you can fire 2 'assault rifles' or handguns at a time, but there's no need, and plenty of reasons not to. One rifle can lay down plenty of suppressive fire, and more accurately than trying to use up all your ammo in a display of firepower. The target will just keeps it head down til you're trying to clear a jam or reload, and put a single round where it really hurts. Or send out his buddy to flank you. Since you used up all your ammo, and your weapon it too hot to touch, he won't even have to throw his shovel at you.
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...but my favorite is the ability to carry dual assault rifles.
That's one good reason why I like the original UT better than either 2k3 or 2k4. Others include the ability to boost the game speed up to... something like 200%, and older but much much less graphic-intensive graphics engine. My computer will theoretically run 2k3 and 4 just fine, but I still like the original's gameplay much better.
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Link to the n00b raptor camping posters. There's some really good ones in there....
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Unreal Tournament 2004 is expected to be available worldwide on March 15, in both a standard and a "Special Edition" format. Unreal Tournament 2004 DVD Special Edition will ship as a double-DVD set - disk one will include all of the game content while disk two will include hours of Video Training Modules (VTMs) from 3D Buzz that teach fans and amateur mod makers how to use the Unreal Editor to create custom game content. Unreal Tournament 2004 DVD Special Edition will come in a limited edition metal box and will contain a Logitech Internet Chat Headset for use with the game's exclusive voice-over-IP (voice chat) technology, as well as an Unreal window sticker.
According to this, the game also is in a 2-disc DVD edition with extra goodies. It is available at the same price at most retailers.
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There is a $10 rebate in the box!
Good news: They ARE giving you a rebate.
Bad news: It's only $10.
Details inside the box. If this is as good as it's supposed to be, though, I won't feel too bad about dropping $30 after rebate on it.
Just FYI, the Raptor vehicle (no relation to the UT2004 Raptor) in Unreal 2: XMP plays Dixie too if you get airborn with the boosters (and hit the horn). :)
I loved watching that thing come flying over a hilltop with fire streaming out the vents playing that cute little tune. It was hillarious, right up until the point that it smacked into you, chewwed you up in the grinders, and spit your gibs out the same vents.
Do you know roughly what % of retail copies run on linux then?
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Yes it does!
PIII-700 with a TNT2 M64
Low-end...
I may have 15-20 fps but runs with a fair amount of visual goodies anyhow!
Amazing, considering the age of the card.
The Unreal Engine, be it orignal, UT2003, modified, whatever, was made to host maps on a speperate server. The UT server itself will send maps and other files, if it must, but at the same max rate as whatever the max client data rate is. This is done so the server doesn't screw people playing because someone is downloading.
What you are supposed to do is setup a web server that holds all the maps, textures, sounds and such that you need. You then set a redirector in the UT config to the web server. When a client needs a file, they get sent there, which then proceeds to send at the maximum rate possible as ber HTTP.
An additonal advantage is that the HTTP redirect supports compression. You can zip up the files (50% size on average) with the UCC program. They then download compressed and decompress on the client side, saving bandwidth and time.
So if you run a UT server, of any version, host the maps on a web server and setup a redirect. It can be on the same physical hardware if you like, or a completely different host, whatever works. However don't have the UT server itself serve up the data, it isn't efficient.
Easily, I'd say:
1) Mozilla (http://mozilla.org)
2) Mplayer (http://mplayerhq.hu)
3) GIMP (http://gimp.org)
4) OpenOffice (http://openoffice.org)
5) Cinelerra (http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3)
6) K3B (http://www.k3b.org)
Not knowing anything about Linux, I would recommend having a friend help you set up your computer and having him available once in a while to ask how to do stuff. You'll get the hang of the OS pretty quickly though. I got my friend up and running with Fedora Core 1 a couple of weeks ago, and he just installed the mouse gesture plugin for Mozilla by himself yesterday. I'm so proud. *sniff*
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Are you certain that they're not in DM and CTF? As with UT2003, putting vehicles in maps was as simple as loading up the editor and adding a spawn point, so I don't see why it would be any different -- especially considering the weaponry is available to take down the vehicles while on foot.
:)
If it isn't that easy, you can bet a mod will be made that makes it so shortly after it's released