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The Man Who Knew Too Much

theodp writes "For thrilling competition, Slate says the Tour de France pales next to the 25-game reign of Jeopardy! supercontestant Ken Jennings. The 30-year-old software engineer has won a total of $788,960, beating the previous record-holder by a margin of over $600,000. Watching KenJen play is like witnessing any great athlete in top form: He's the Michael Jordan of trivia, the Seabiscuit of geekdom, and his antics have once again made Jeopardy! required viewing. (Update: 26 wins and $828,960: 'When Jennings ran the Marvel comics category during the second round, host Alex Trebek asked: Have you done anything besides read comics? It pays to be a nerd, Jennings responded.')"

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  1. Fun fact: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    There are more hens & chicken that humans on earth.

  2. movie? by maxbang · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh lord, I hope they don't make a movie about this guy forty years from now and expose him as some kind of patsy in an elaborate scheme to sell more vitamin juice for old people.

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  3. He's on the wrong show. by hal2814 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Jennings were on Who Wants to be a Millionaire, he could already have more money by now (and it wouldn't take him a month to do it).

    1. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      With his track record on Jeapordy, there is no way they would allow him anywhere near the set of Millionaire. I mean, if you knew that having this guy on your game would make you lose $1 million, would you do it?

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    2. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Sancho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hell yeah. I'd just advertise the hell out of it.

    3. Re:He's on the wrong show. by twoshortplanks · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, if it meant that you'd get a flock of people who wanted to watch the show and the combined revenue from advertising (both for this show, people who watch following shows because they liked this show) and resale rights is more than the million.

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    4. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Mr.FreakyBig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No. If you watch him play, he gets answers wrong from time to time. In Millionaire, he'd be screwed, and bounce back to $16000 or $32000 for a wrong answer, and he'd be done. In Jeopardy! a wrong answer erases a bit of case, but only small amounts, and he does not get kicked off the show. Instead he get to continue. All he has to do is be better than the other two contestants, and know a bunch of trivia.

    5. Re:He's on the wrong show. by donnyspi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's right. Before last night, he got 3 Final Jeopardys wrong in a row. That's big, but not big enough to make him lose on jeopardy. In Millionaire though, he would have multiple choice at least.

    6. Re:He's on the wrong show. by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      On Millionaire, who the heck would he call for his Lifeline?

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    7. Re:He's on the wrong show. by cuzality · · Score: 3, Funny

      Forget who he'd call -- this guy is the ultimate "phone a friend".

    8. Re:He's on the wrong show. by HaloZero · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Disagree. This way, he's got a significant amount to show for it if he flubs up. On Millionare, you could get stiffed by a question that they had the wrong answer to, anyway (referring to a gentics question as the 500,000$ prize, to which they had the ultimate wrong answer; the guy got it wrong, anyway, but if he had used that 50/50 lifeline or whatever and they removed the appropriate answer, there would have been legal trouble, guaranteed.)

      Besides, earning yourself 1,000,000 over a months time going head to head with 52 other people, you take more than just money away from that experience - you take away satisfaction.

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    9. Re:He's on the wrong show. by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There was a guy in Croatia who made a nice income from the local version of the show. I think he was eventually banned as a phone a friend. Here you go.

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    10. Re:He's on the wrong show. by XO · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If there's a wrong answer on Millionaire, and you can prove it, you need to contact them - at least once, i know, they have called the player back, and restarted the game at the point where the incorrect answer was.

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    11. Re:He's on the wrong show. by mog007 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You don't seriously believe that they only film one episode a day, do you? He's probably gotten that money over the course of at least half the time it's taken to be aired. Sure, he'd still get the money faster on Millionare, but I saw him a few times, and I have to say that I'm glad there's someone to put Trebeck in his place, WITHOUT the cards.

    12. Re:He's on the wrong show. by red+floyd · · Score: 4, Informative

      Speaking from experience (I came in 2nd in 1991) they film 5 episodes a day. They used to tape two days per week.

      When did they change the rules? It used to be that you could be on 5 times... max, at which point you retired as an "undefeated 5 time champion".

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    13. Re:He's on the wrong show. by wanerious · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You might be right, but I was on Wheel of Fortune back in 1990, and the usual schedule was to tape 4 days of 5 shows per day, getting at least a month's worth per week. I think Wheel still keeps to that schedule, and I thought Jeopardy did too.

    14. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I was on millionaire and lost on one question, I'd totally be like "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. Shit. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail."

    15. Re:He's on the wrong show. by agallagh42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      "When did they change the rules? It used to be that you could be on 5 times... max, at which point you retired as an "undefeated 5 time champion"."

      It was very recently. I think within the past year. They made a big deal out of it when they changed the rules. Now the champion keeps playing until they lose.

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    16. Re:He's on the wrong show. by recursiv · · Score: 2, Funny

      Congratulations. you get the joke. However, it is stupdendously unfunny to explain the punchline in such a literal way.

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    17. Re:He's on the wrong show. by damien_kane · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm glad there's someone to put Trebeck in his place

      Well, there are always Norm MacDonald...

      "Turd Furgusen... it's a funny name"

    18. Re:He's on the wrong show. by ePhil_One · · Score: 5, Informative
      I suspect the real ability he has is his hand buzzer reaction time. If I recall, you can't buzz in as soon as the question is answered, you have to wait until Alex reads the question, then a signal light is turned on off camera. Pushing the button before the light comes on triggers a two second lockout. So you have time to decide if you are going for it, then concentrate on buzzing in. Like drag racing, its knowing more questions to answers, it being first off the line so you have more opportunities.

      And as far as the record goes, an important factor is that until recently after 5 wins a champion was retired, and would only come back for a tournament of champions. So he's the first "champion" to be given this opportunity.

      Which is not to imply that he's not preternaturally smart, just that there's more to it than just trivia capacity.

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    19. Re:He's on the wrong show. by djrosen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No chance of him even coming close to the 10 Million on Millionaire. One of Ken's Strengths is the ability to make EXCELLENT educated Guesses, but Millionaire is not as forgiving and the mindset of the player is much different. In Jeopardy you dont really have to be afraid of a wrong answer so Ken will make his Guesses, but he isnt always right. Its my belief that Ken would not make it to the 10 million dollar mark.

      FWIW, Regis talks about him almost daily and will have him on the show if and when the run ends.

    20. Re:He's on the wrong show. by nlindstrom · · Score: 2, Funny
      You can travel around the world and not find a better phone-a-friend than Samual Adams.

      Sam Adams: always the right choice.

    21. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes - the unlimited winning run is new for this season. Given the huge volume of negative feedback we are receiving from viewers (I work for an abc affiliate) I very strongly suspect this will be a one season thing.

    22. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Trackster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Another difference is that the questions are now worth 2X as much as they used to be in the old rules.

  4. Proud? by rpbailey1642 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm actually really impressed that this man is getting so much respect (and money!) for how much he knows. Most of it is useless trivia, but to most people, that comes across as intelligence...a man is getting respect for his intelligence, on daytime TV. Awesome.

    1. Re:Proud? by CaseyB · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Most of it is useless trivia, but to most people, that comes across as intelligence...

      Any one fact by itself is "useless trivia". But assorted "useless trivia" questions are just a way of gathering a random sampling of the entire body of knowledge that someone has.

      If you're going to reliably answer a question about who happened to be president in a given year, then you pretty much have to know the entire chronology of the presidency.

    2. Re:Proud? by maxbang · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah, yes, you say useless trivia. This proves that useless trivia is far from useless, given the right circumstances. Nothing is not worth knowing.

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    3. Re:Proud? by rembem · · Score: 5, Informative

      The terms used in psychology are 'fluid intelligence' and 'crystallized intelligence'

      Fluid Intelligence is "a natural ability which is not dependant on acquired knowledge" Crystallized Intelligence is "ability dependent on acquired knowledge"

    4. Re:Proud? by k98sven · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Intelligence is not knowledge, but there is are relations between the two.
      An important part of what most of us regard as 'intelligence' is the ability to 'see' how things relate to one another and form conclusions about them.

      One way to do that is to form an abstraction in your head.
      Another way is to form an analogy and relate it to something which you do know.

      For example the conclusion: "Fighting a war on two fronts is bad", could be reached either by abstract reasoning along the lines of how a two front war would divide one's resources and increase the chance of loosing the war. Or you could form an analogy to Germany loss in WWI.

      The way I see it, they compliment eachother. But naturally, knowledge in itself is not intelligence, because you need a certain amount of abstract skills to be able to recognize an analogy.

      I Am Not A Cognitive Psychologist, however.

    5. Re:Proud? by AGMW · · Score: 3, Funny
      Nothing is not worth knowing.

      For example, I know that if you are standed at the North Pole and are starving and are
      a) foolish enough to try and kill a polar bear ... and
      b) lucky enough to succeed
      do NOT eat the liver as it will kill you because it is loaded with Vitamin A (as discovered by some hapless explorers many years ago!).

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    6. Re:Proud? by IdleTime · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess he is "Gloria" from "White men can't jump!"...

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    7. Re:Proud? by neuroklinik · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Useless trivia? Last I heard, this guy had won over $800,000 because of all this useless trivia. Doesn't seem so useless now, does it?

    8. Re:Proud? by rpbailey1642 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Afraid of the Canadian Linux user groups/lynch mobs?

    9. Re:Proud? by AGMW · · Score: 3, Funny
      Btw when you're there, don't try to survive eating penguins - but I won't tell you why :-)
      Afraid of the Canadian Linux user groups/lynch mobs?

      Nope, you get frostbite.

      You have to take your gloves off to remove the foil.

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    10. Re:Proud? by pangloss · · Score: 4, Funny

      For example the conclusion: "Fighting a war on two fronts is bad", could be reached either by abstract reasoning along the lines of how a two front war would divide one's resources and increase the chance of loosing the war. Or you could form an analogy to Germany loss in WWI.

      The way I see it, they compliment eachother.


      Abstract Reasoning: Why Analogy, what a nice dress you're wearing today!

      Analogy: Abstract, where did you get that scarf? You always show such remarkable taste.

    11. Re:Proud? by blacksway · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because they spent all their time watching Jeopardy instead of working?

    12. Re:Proud? by Le+Marteau · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Any one fact by itself is "useless trivia". But assorted "useless trivia" questions are just a way of gathering a random sampling of the entire body of knowledge that someone has.

      I remember when I was having my head shrinked. The psychiatrist gave me a battery of tests. He asked me about 10 'useless trivia' questions, e.g. "Who wrote 'Faust'" (I replied "Goeth", pronounced it just like that, not the German pronunciation.) Another question: "Where is Egypt?" (Africa, of course). I forget the rest.

      The shrink was using the questions to gauge my general body of knowledge. Combined with other metrics, a general picture of a person's state of mind and persona develops. Certainly, someone who knows who wrote 'Faust' and where Egypt, and the other questions, is a very different person from someone who knows none of the answers. Plus, the fact that I pronounced "Goethe" the way it is would be pronounced if it were an American name, is telling, as it showed that I obtained that knowledge by reading, rather than through a lecture or a TV show. It also showed I was not German, and had not studied the language to any real degree.

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  5. Tonari no Totoro by Karrde712 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Personally, I thought it was wonderful when Jennings announced that his good luck charm was a stuffed Totoro doll from Tonari no Totoro (My Neighbor Totoro), a Studio Ghibli/Hayao Miyazaki animated film. (See nausicaa.net for more)

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    1. Re:Tonari no Totoro by sglane81 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ken is well rounded in everything except Country music and something else (can't remember). He stated this a while ago. He is one of the BYU team that selects questions for the College Bowl

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    2. Re:Tonari no Totoro by sglane81 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It was Country music and "potent potables" since he doesn't drink. He is also a mormon and will be tithing some of the earnings/winnings to the Latterday Saints.

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    3. Re:Tonari no Totoro by PhilHibbs · · Score: 2, Informative
      According to this:
      The website is down at the moment, undergoing a Jeopardy-related overhaul. D'oh!

    4. Re:Tonari no Totoro by D-Cypell · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jeopardotted?

    5. Re:Tonari no Totoro by paitre · · Score: 2, Informative

      10%.
      And there is absolutely -NOTHING- wrong with this, either.
      I just watch this guy in absolute awe. I'm pretty good at trivia, but this guy just -owns- the freaking game. 800k, and counting, who -cares- that he's going to pay a 10% tithe to his Church, he's -still- not going to have to work for a while :)

    6. Re:Tonari no Totoro by GlassUser · · Score: 2, Funny

      Naw, no dot in "Jeopardy" (see the "dot" in "slashdot"). I'd just say that the site's present existance is in jeopardy.

    7. Re:Tonari no Totoro by daeley · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jeopardead.

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  6. He's fast on the button by tommasz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not only does Ken know a lot, he's got his "signalling button fu" working. He's going to be hard to beat as a result of that alone, as we've seen. But even when he guesses, he seems to guess correctly, so there's no doubt about the breadth of his knowledge. Go Ken!

    1. Re:He's fast on the button by Angry+Toad · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm pretty sure he hits the button without even considering whether he knows the answer - he's been caught out like that a couple of times, having pushed the button but with no idea what the answer is. I suspect he just trusts to his vast knowledge of trivia.

      My daughter has started rooting against him - "Enough!", she yells, "Ken is getting boring! Somebody make him lose!"

      Personally I think he will just decide to walk once he hits $1000000.

    2. Re:He's fast on the button by hal2814 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Personally I think he will just decide to walk once he hits $1000000."

      I don't think so. If I were in his place, I would keep going until I lost or they made me leave. There's not too many chances in life to rack up that kind of cash that quickly. He should and probably will take full advantage of it.

    3. Re:He's fast on the button by Sheltim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "There's not too many chances in life to rack up that kind of cash that quickly. He should and probably will take full advantage of it."

      Even ignoring the fact that he's making so much money, I bet he's *enjoying* it. Who wouldn't want to have that much fun and then get paid for it?

    4. Re:He's fast on the button by HungWeiLo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Personally I think he will just decide to walk once he hits $1000000.

      Anybody else notice his slight political slant that he lents into his comments? It was towards the beginning of his reign. But in the last couple of shows, he jokes that he is now in favor of the Bush tax cuts.

      Speaking of which, does anyone else notice that Bush advertises on Wheel of Fortune and Kerry on Jeopardy?

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    5. Re:He's fast on the button by Augie+De+Blieck+Jr. · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The signaling button is no doubt an important part of the show. And last I heard, the J! producers put different people in charge of "turning on" the buzzers for every show. This way, you won't get one contestant in tune with one producer to lock into the timing. (Remember, you can't buzz in until AFTER Alex finishes reading the answer.)

      People often forget (or don't realize) that there is a certain amount of strategy involved with Jeopardy! Being smart and a trivia hound is definitely the first thing, but then the buzzer comes into play, and answer selection. (If you're under a minute to go in Double Jeopardy and another contestant is at -$2000, try hard not to pick a $2000 answer right away...)

      The idea I like the most to unseat KenJen is to bring back Chuck Forrest, Frank Spangenberg, etc. to compete against him. All out Super Jeopardy! brawl!

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    6. Re:He's fast on the button by kryptkpr · · Score: 5, Informative

      Personally I think he will just decide to walk once he hits $1000000.

      Ken has himself said (on the 23rd show I think it was; where a the lady got ~$1800 taken away retrospectivelly for saying 'Olympics' instead of 'Summer Olympics' and didn't end up with enough $$ to challenge him) that his goal is to be invited to become a writer for Jeopardy. All Jeopardy writers are previous contestants (according to Trebek).

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    7. Re:He's fast on the button by red+floyd · · Score: 5, Informative

      They have a light around the contest board. You can't ring in until the light goes on (otherwise, you have a 2 second lockout).

      Speaking from experience

      red floyd -- former Jeopardy! contestant

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    8. Re:He's fast on the button by Tlosk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One of the bonuses to walking away when he hits 1 million is then it will be an open question how long he could have gone on for. Maybe there isn't anyone on the planet that could beat him, if he walks away that remains an open question, but if he keeps going until he gets beaten, well then we know the answer to that question.

    9. Re:He's fast on the button by DarkFencer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since Jeopardy and Wheel are syndicated, it could just be that way in your local market.

      Then again, I am in New York which will definately go Kerry so they don't bother wasting their money (either side) on ads here.

  7. All Hail... by petepac · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and bow before him for he is the Alpha-Nerd!

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    1. Re:All Hail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I for one hail our new Alpha-Nerd master.


      If this gets modded up I'm gonna kick myself.

  8. Re:Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by Echnin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well duh, obviously they got caught since you know about it. The possible good cheaters don't.

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  9. Incredible by WenisMonger · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It's like he knows one of the guys who makes up the trivia. It's really incredible.

    I had only heard about him until two days ago when he won his 25th in a row, and his winnings for that day were only $14,000, which was his lowest in all 25 games.

    1. Re:Incredible by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

      his winnings for that day were only $14,000, which was his lowest in all 25 games.

      Yeah, I really felt bad for the poor guy that day.

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  10. Comparison by scaltagi_the_pirate · · Score: 2, Funny

    Its like watching the lakers/bulls win over and over, now I just tune in to watch him lose

  11. Culture by feilkin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If our culture is headed down the path of having high esteem for people who appear and do successfully on game shows--boy are we screwed.

    Oh, wait. We already do that with reality tv people. Whoops, my bad.

    1. Re:Culture by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is not high esteem for a man who does well on a game show.

      This is high esteem for a man who does well on a game show by showing of his gargantuan brain. This is high esteem for a man who has probably forgotten more trivia than most of us currently know. This is high esteem for a geek pressing his advantage in an arena suited to his forte.

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    2. Re:Culture by EriDay · · Score: 5, Funny

      If our culture is headed down the path of having high esteem for people who appear and do successfully on game shows--boy are we screwed.

      Yeah, we need to get back to the traditional values of throwing a ball and running fast.

    3. Re:Culture by shadowcabbit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If our culture is headed down the path of having high esteem for people who appear and do successfully on game shows--boy are we screwed.

      Oh, wait. We already do that with reality tv people. Whoops, my bad.


      There is a significant amount of difference between being a font of general (if often/somewhat useless) knowledge, and being willing to eat bugs on camera.

      In the one case you have demonstrated a voracious appetite for learning and retention of this learning, and made a few bucks along the way.

      In the other case, you've eaten bugs, which demonstrates the fact that, with the application of enough money, you'll probably do anything.

      I don't know about you but I have plenty of high esteem for people who win on quiz shows because they are more than likely smarter than me. (And this coming from a kid who could answer most of the questions on Jeopardy when he was seven... I haven't watched Jeopardy in such a long time, it's just too easy. I miss that one game show that was on GSN a few years back, with the hidden-host gimmick-- I think it was called Inquisition or something. That had some tough questions.)

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    4. Re:Culture by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If our culture is headed down the path of having high esteem for people who appear and do successfully on game shows--boy are we screwed.

      This isn't an outback-jack-who-wants-to-marry-a-midget-bachelor type of televised retardation that the reality shows are. You can't fake Jeopardy; either you know it and you're fast enough on the buzzer or you're dead in the water.

      Finally someone revered on a gameshow for their mind, not their boobs or conniving.

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    5. Re:Culture by Alsee · · Score: 2, Funny

      Finally someone revered on a gameshow for their mind, not their boobs or conniving

      Too bad Ken Jennings doesn't have boobs. Just imagine the ratings.

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  12. Maybe he's a robot by grunt107 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is very impressive. Maybe he has someone feeding him answers (conspiracy theory!).

    Brings to mind the recent GSN (Game Show Network) airing on the Michael Larson "Press Your Luck" scandal. This guy learned their random board sequence was actually sets of predictable moves and won what was then large $. Then the network would not pay him, although IMO he did nothing wrong.

    1. Re:Maybe he's a robot by bujoojoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Brings to mind the recent GSN (Game Show Network) airing on the Michael Larson "Press Your Luck" scandal. This guy learned their random board sequence was actually sets of predictable moves and won what was then large $. Then the network would not pay him, although IMO he did nothing wrong.

      Not true. The producers tried to weasel out of paying him but could not prove he was cheating, only paying close attention. There is an interesting site here

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    2. Re:Maybe he's a robot by Wally+Fenderson · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, the network (CBS), was _trying_ to find a way not to pay him. The lawyers basically told them, nope, he didn't cheat, it's your fault, ya gotta pay him. The next season, CBS did double the number of patterns on the board, from 6 to 12, to try to prevent that from happening again. Sadly, Larson lost all of the money in a bad real estate investment deal (I guess he finally did hit that whammy), and died of cancer nearly broke. I did see rumors of a film based on the story, with Bill Murray as Michael Larson.

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    3. Re:Maybe he's a robot by Deathlizard · · Score: 5, Informative

      Basicially this is it in a nutshell.

      -Michael Larson at the time was unemployed. He became obsessed with game shows thinking that he could get on one and outsmart the system to win on it.
      -He starting watching Press your luck and realized that the pattern was psudorandom and completely reversed engenerred the Random pattern, and even perfected a button pressing method to be as precise as possible
      -Mike applied to be a contestant on Press your luck, and eventually got the green light to get on. CBS Producers commented that his demeanor was different from other contestants and they were suspicious of him, but couldn't find anything wrong so he got the go ahead.
      -Once on the show, In the beginning, he acted just like any other contestant, and went through the question and answer session pretty unenentfully.
      -the spin round, was where it got interesting. The First thing Mike did was get a whammy. It's believed that he did it on purpose to get a feel of the button to the board interaction and also not to look like he was blantently hacking the board.
      -after the first whammy, it was all big bucks from there. he would almost always either hit big bucks or another space on the "wheel" that he knew would never popup a whammy. The whole time doing it he was in some sort of trancelike state.
      -The second Q&A Session goes underway, already he's won a good amount of money but CBS hasn't seen anything yet. CBS Producers are going nuts in the back, more than aware that he's got the system beat from his first round performance. Peter Tomarken is basicially shocked at this point.
      -Second round comes around. Mike basicially spins and never stops, collecting even more spins and more money. it gets to the point that Peter is beyond stunned now and doesn't know how to react to this, CBS is going insane in the back, and the episode is running way out of bounds for it's time.
      -Mike breaks the $100,000 barrier. at this point he's won more money than was not only thought possible, but has broke the daytime money winnings record.
      -finally, he gets frightened that he's going to screw up and get a whammy, so he passes the spins.
      -eventually, some spins he has to take get passed to him. Wins Even more money. until basicially all the spins are gone.
      -in the end, CBS "retired" him as champion, and originally would not pay him for cheating. eventually they paid him when their lawyers advised thm that they would lose because their wheel was too predictive. They aired te show as a two day show, because it was so long, they increased the patterns, and added more whammy slots where there originally were none.

    4. Re:Maybe he's a robot by telstar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Larson ended up getting much of his money stolen (he kept piles of it around the house to participate in a contest where matching the serial number on a dollar bill would net him a prize) and wasted the rest on a bad real estate investment. He died alone ... a sad, broken, poor man.

    5. Re:Maybe he's a robot by Deathlizard · · Score: 2, Interesting

      according to the GSN show, they did know it was not a good random pattern way before Mike Larson. In fact, CBS producers were genuinely concerned that the pattern wasn't random enough. They just never figured that anyone would figure it out before they updated the system.

      The board had two major problems.
      1) The technology available to them was very limited in scope. It had limits on how many and how big the random patterns could be. Although I dont see why they couldn't design a system to be completely random, for some reason that I can't remember it had to be psudorandom.
      2) The screen values were not random enough. Idelally, it would have been perfect to have a whammy on every possible value and have that run a totally random pattern. at that time however, they didn't cover the entire board. There were many that didn't ever show a whammy and Mike picked two of them that were easy to track the pattern to. And one of them happened to be big bucks.

      Once Mike walked all over the board, both of these things were changed. there were more whammys and much more random patterns.

  13. Re:Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by BetterThanCaesar · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think you're thinking of "Who wants to be a millionaire?" There was a documentary about it called Millionaire: A Major Fraud.

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  14. Constantly Recording by thpdg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've watched a few of his shows, and I have to say, he is definitely a learner. On the rare occasions that he misses a response, I've never seen him say "Oh, I knew that". Instead, he has this intense look, as if he's going to remember it for next time. If he's been doing that his whole life, then it's no wonder he has such a knowledge base.
    Based on myself, and some others that read here, I suspect a lot of the Slashdot community is the same way. How else could we recall so much about Linux, servers, PC upkeep, and any number of topics that appear here on a regular basis?
    I wish Ken the best of luck, and maybe we'll be able to talk to him here, at some point.

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    1. Re:Constantly Recording by rpbailey1642 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We used tabbed browsing, with slashdot, wikipedia, google, and everything2 opened. So, we're not smart, we're just good researchers. (humor, humor, humor)

    2. Re:Constantly Recording by iantri · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I wish Ken the best of luck, and maybe we?ll be able to talk to him here, at some point.
      To expand on that idea, I think a /. interview with this guy would be great..
  15. Can you imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can you imagine what a Beowolf cluster of KenJens would be like?

    1. Re:Can you imagine... by Kingpin · · Score: 5, Funny


      Uh.. What is google?

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  16. What a change by Rurik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People being celebrated for their intelligence and wit, and not their looks or physical attributes. Are we still in America? What happened here?

    Anyone remember the episode of Sliders where Quinn (sp) was on the game show of extremely high level math and science questions (while throwing a ball). The perfect world for geeks :D

    1. Re:What a change by dasmegabyte · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh come on, it's just one guy. Hardly a revolution. Hardly anything new. America's always got their token smart guys. The average man knows Einstein, Sagan and Hawking. The average man knows Bill Gates. The average man know Asimov and Bradbury. The average man knows Alan Greenspan.

      The problem is, smart people don't really have time to spend in the spotlight. They're busy learning and doing stuff that matters. Beautiful people have little to do all day after that four hour session at the gym. So they go on E! So they show up on chat shows. So they go to gala premieres with vapid actresses.

      Fame is very high maintenance, and for most smart people, it's not worth it.

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  17. Heh by sglane81 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow, this article is lacking something... content maybe? Someone who has seen the show maybe?

    Note his systematic habit of moving down the categories vertically, one by one, rather than skipping around the board.

    Everyone does this.

    His nearly preternatural ability to land on the hidden Daily Doubles.

    The odds are much more in your favor for hitting the DD if you answer the most questions.

    Sounds like Dana Stevens watched one episode and thought she understood. 2/3rds of the article isn't even about Jeopardy! or Ken. It's really amazing these kinds of journalists can get a job.

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  18. I for one... by digithead · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...welcome our new trivia overlords.

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  19. Re:Curious about timing by I_M_Noman · · Score: 3, Informative
    What timeframes are we looking at for the current Jeopardy episodes? These certainly aren't being taped for same-day or next-day broadcast, are they?
    When I passed the test and was placed in the contestant pool for last season, they told me that they film from August through March, 5 episodes a day each on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Since we're almost up to the new filming season, I'd guess that these episodes were filmed last March.

    (BTW, the bastards never called me so I wasn't ever actually on the show. But I was ready, dammit!)
  20. Pales? by linuxrunner · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Tour de France pales next to the 25-game reign of Jeopardy!"

    I'm sorry, but a 23 day 2235 mile, (3600 KM), race at full speed PALES?

    Yesterday was the time trials, and the US Postal team finished first with an average speed of 33 MPH, 53 KPH.

    That's amazing... and they'll keep doing it. With other racers such as Ullrich, Hamilton, Julich, etc, this is going to be a great year to watch the race.

    Sure this fella on Jepoardy is smart, but we don't know if the show is trumping it up, now do we?

    I mean... we can get one smart guy, and keep getting dumb challengers, and hey... look... wow.. he DEFINATELY looks smart, and won't loose.

    Can anyone say, "ratings"... I mean, on a bad channel, and a bad time... they need something right?

    At least the tour isn't fake, and everyone is at the same level, going for the same goal.

    I'll take the Tour over any WB show anyday.

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    1. Re:Pales? by treuf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Excuse me, but when you say that the tour isn't fake, you should consider doping.
      All those guys (most of them) are cheaters and I don't consider this sport anymore.

      Check those 2 links out :
      http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/hoberman/to ur. htm
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/ cycli ng/3748973.stm

    2. Re:Pales? by TwistedSquare · · Score: 2, Funny
      All those guys (most of them)

      Ah slashdot, the home of generalisations.

    3. Re:Pales? by edgezone · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Excuse me, but when you say that the tour isn't fake, you should consider doping. All those guys (most of them) are cheaters and I don't consider this sport anymore.

      Check those 2 links out :
      http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/hoberman/tour. htm
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycli ng/3748973.stm

      Let's see...one link is about a doping incident from 6 years ago. The other is about a raid that turned up nothing? Yet your claim is that "All those guys" or "most of them" cheat and dope? You really have to do better then that. Please offer some better proof. They do urine tests, blood tests, raid hotel rooms (as you proved), monitor red blood cell counts, and France itself is very strict on even bringing substances into the country (ask Edith Rumsas about that one!).

      Obviously no sport can be perfect, after all, there will always be companies like BALCO trying to find a way around drug testing, but compared to other sports, professional cycling is one of the most aggressive testing sports around

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    4. Re:Pales? by bonius_rex · · Score: 2, Informative
      You, sir, are full of shit.
      Lance had testicular cancer, which later became lung, and brain cancer. He never had prostate cancer.

      "Tests revealed advanced testicular cancer that had spread to his lungs and his brain"
      http://lancearmstrong.com/about.htm

      If you read either of his books, you can read all about the witch-hunt the French cycling authorities put him through, for over a year, without ever finding any evidence of his using illicit substances.

  21. $828,960 won so far... by Brain+Stew · · Score: 4, Funny

    And he'd give it all up for a kiss from a girl :(...

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    1. Re:$828,960 won so far... by WolfJ514 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He's stated a number of times on the show that he is married.

      Furthermore, he's a BYU grad, and Mormons encourage you to get married and have more adherants, errr, children.

  22. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by sglane81 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Suck it, Trebek! - as Sean Connery on SNL Celebrity Jeopardy

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  23. When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? by sielwolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    Was it recently? For a while that kept the max pretty low (since, well, the best anyone could do was be on less than a fifth the shows Jennings has been on. Also might explain why his winnings are about five times as high).

    On a related note: I liked Tony Kornheiser on ESPN's Pardon the Interruption talking about auditioning for Jeopardy where he got some pretty high marks but chose a less skilled contestant because Mr Tony wasn't "telegenic enough" (ironic since he cohosts PTI, is a guest on another weekly DC sports show and the Sports Reporters). I guess criteron might be out the window too.

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    1. Re:When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? by word+munger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, according to the article, this is the first season. In that sense, his "record' isn't that impressive. Earlier this year someone got to 7, now he's crushed that.

  24. Re:Job Interview? by hey! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not necessarily.

    The median difficulty question can't be too hard. Part of the fun of a game show is sitting at home knowing the answer and watching the contestant choke.

    It wouldn't be any fun if the contenstants were asked to know things that only a tiny minority of people are likely to know, like the name of the actor who played "Bobba Fett" in the Star Wars movies.

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  25. Only in america by Underholdning · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "If his winning streak continues, Jennings could become the most celebrated software engineer in America."
    Engineers can put probes on Mars and take pictures of Jupiter, but if you want to be celebrated, you must go on TV :)

  26. Re:Coaching? by Slartibartfast · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, there's no coaching whatsoever. After the great gameshow debacle in the 50's (there's a movie by -- not starring -- Robert Redford about this, which I can't remember the name of), this stuff was clamped down on BIG time. A friend of mine -- super-duper smart -- was on Jeopardy!, and wrote up an article about it at the time. For one, they do it in batches; IIRC, they knock off three shows in one day, and show them MUCH later. (Lots of NDA signage re: the results occurs when you get selected.) While they foster the illusion that it's live, it's not. In addition, while they're friendly with Alex during the game, there's essentially NO mingling at any other time -- no sense of impropriety is wanted or allowed. Etc. Honestly, from his article, it sounded a lot less chummy to be a Jeopardy! participant than it looks like from watching the show.

  27. Not even close by arieswind · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These games arent even close... last night he had 40k at the end, the next closest was like 4 or 5k. The night before that he had over 25k, both of the other people were in the red, for nearly the entire show. It's one thing to win 25 closely contested shows, its quite another to win by the impressive margins that he does every night.

  28. Reminds me of "Quiz Show" by Psychic+Burrito · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anybody seen Quiz Show? To increase viewer numbers, champions regularly stayed on a show for 20+ weeks. How they did it? Participants got the questions in advance and it was all just a big show... And no, this isn't fiction, it really happened - in the 1950...

    Should make everyone wonder whether the network has really found a great candidate or just decided to increase viewer numbers again with a similar plot...

    1. Re:Reminds me of "Quiz Show" by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 2, Funny

      Um, you apparently don't know the origin of Jeopardy. You know how they give you the answers on Jeopardy instead of a question. Think hard....

      It started out as a parody of Quiz Show. But it's on the up and up, Ken's just a smart guy.

  29. The New Jeopardy by gwjc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Firstly, I don't think he's cheating. People we're speculating on it the last time he was /.'d but he's just under too much scrutiny. The elimination of the five win rule set the stage for this new form of Jeopardy and I can't see how it can change from here unless the reinstate the rule. Ken will stay on top until someone like Ken but better comes along, and it stands to reason that whoever can beat him will remain unbeatable for a long run until some equally rare triv-master knocks them out. I noticed that last night when he referred to himself as a 'nerd' Trebek quickly insisted he was anything but; He used to seem more antagonistic to him. It's like Alex has Stockholm syndrome now that his show has been taken hostage by Ken. I wonder if the people who select the questions will deliberately start stacking the questions to exploit his weakspots or maybe they won't given the ratings boost he's bringing them.
    Anyway, here's to Ken!

    1. Re:The New Jeopardy by flamingmoose · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There was a show in the Netherlands about a year ago, where the contestants were given a booklet with 1000 questions nd ansers from which the questions would be asked. I didn't know that the first time I watched. Just when I was in awe of the contestants (obviously, they knew very much) one girl was able to say who came second in last years Tour de France. When the host asked her (not a real question, just making conversation) who won, she didn't have a clue...

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    2. Re:The New Jeopardy by scotch · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The real problem is that for most of the easy questions, almost every contest up there knows the answer. Ken gets those every time because, after 25 times on the show, he has totally mastered the art of the buzz in. I've been watching the show, it's quite frustration to see the easy questions come up and every contestant frantically pushing their button, except Ken, who calmly get it every time.

      Ken is a super smart guy, but the buzzer factor helps ensure he doesn't have a bad night and lose to another smart guy (or girl).

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    3. Re:The New Jeopardy by GeoGreg · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can't buzz in as soon as Alex begins to speak. The buzzers are locked out by a producer until Alex finishes the question. That's how it was when I was on in 1991, and other posts here indicate that's still the case. I haven't watched the show myself recently.

  30. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by Guitar+Wizard · · Score: 2, Funny

    "I'll take 'the rapist' for $500..."

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  31. Re:Coaching? by dr_dank · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're thinking of Quiz Show.

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  32. How long till... by howman · · Score: 2, Funny

    The producers find him to be aliability rather than someone who draws viewers... kinda boring if you know who is going to win... Every month I watch Formula 1 and know Shewie is going to win the race... boring for most...
    I can just see the episode where they decide to get rid of him.
    Tonight on Jepordy, our topics are, Gregorian chants, obscure bible quotes, saints you never heard of, books on the shelf in the Vatican, name that martyr and bubblegum. Challenging our 50th show winner is Cardinal Pompus Knowitall and the Pope... good luck contestants.

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  33. DON'T BUY IT!! by Inf0phreak · · Score: 3, Informative
    It's the cut dub-only version from Fox! And to make matters even worse, it's fullscreen. *YUCK!*

    Some time next year Disney will release a new and uncut version with subtitles and a new dub.

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  34. Ugh by Durindana · · Score: 2

    Who modded the Insightful? Should have been -1, Mean-Spirited.

    This article isn't a Learning Channel documentary on Jeopardy, sglane. She also didn't explain that Trebek is Canadian or whatever; I know, I know, serious oversight. Come on - she's using a (very small) bit of poetic license to illustrate her point about KenJen's slightly neurotic but lovable habits.

    Also note that this piece isn't 'journalism' properly so-called; if anything newspaperly it's editorialization or light-hearted commentary.

    Apparently the light-hearted part was lost on you.

    1. Re:Ugh by sab39 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What's astonishing to me is that *nobody* mentions that the only reason he's so far ahead of previous records is that in all previous seasons you were booted after 5 wins. Of *course* someone doing very well is going to beat records by a lot - anyone who did this well on any previous season would have left the show three weeks ago with a paltry 150K or so.

      Sure, the guy's good. But there's no way to tell how much better he is than previous 5-day winners, because those previous winners never got the chance to show what they could do.

    2. Re:Ugh by Maestro4k · · Score: 3, Informative
      • What's astonishing to me is that *nobody* mentions that the only reason he's so far ahead of previous records is that in all previous seasons you were booted after 5 wins.
      Actually the article mentions this, did you read it? Another person pointed out that the doubled the value of the questions also this season (when they did away with the 5 day limit). That wasn't mentioned in the article.
  35. Jeopardy Web boards by UDGags · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://boards.sonypictures.com/boards/forumdisplay .php?s=50aa46369dcf5a3280b1ed37548dfe79&forumid=34 These are the actual message boards for Jeopardy and Ken Jennings posts there frequently on such topics. They also have running tallies of his scores and precantages. Kinda cool information if you like that kind of stuff. Also I have watched most of Ken's game and this guy is amazing with the amount of trivia he knows.

  36. Bored of Ken by Walrus99 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually I am getting sort of tired of watching Ken. I used to watch Jeopardy every evening, but have tunned out lately. He has gotten the signaling button down. Most of the lower value questions are general knowledge and its a matter of who ever signals in first. If you can control the board you can choose the categories and can pic the ones you know more about, also you have a greater chance of getting a daily double. This give an adavantage to those who have been on for a few shows and has gotten used to the timing of the signaling button, regardless of knowledge.

    I say bring back the five show rule and get some competition back in the game.

  37. Re:Job Interview? by Gio+Angles · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The thing is, the Jeopardy writers toss plenty of clues into their "answers", and generally reward players that have Intro level knowledge of a wide variety of subjects.

    Impossibly hard trivia -

    STAR WARS

    "This person played Boba Fett in the original SW films."

    "Who is Jeremy Bulloch?"

    Typical Jeopardy question -

    STAR WARS

    "Jeremy Bulloch played the role of this deadly intergalactic bounty hunter."

    "Who is Boba Fett?"

  38. Re:Curious about timing by arcdx · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to this story and countless others, the tapings occurred in February. The next tapings are scheduled for August.

    If Ken didn't lose by the end of his season, then he could be back for those tapings. I assume the current season will continue airing even during these tapings, and while Jeopardy has been extremely good at keeping the length of the streak under wraps, I imagine if KJ shows up in August, we're going to hear about it from somebody.

  39. Occam's Razor by AssFace · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think the obvious answer is the simplest one:

    He is a cybernetic mutant from the future that was programmed to have all of the answers to a series of game show questions so that he could be sent back in time, win the prize money, and then use said money to fund his killing spree which eventually allows the robots to rise up and take over the earth while only a handful of humans remain plotting to overthrow the robot regime and one day reign supreme again.

    And hookers. He is going to blow a ton of that cash on whores.
    I know I would.

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  40. Tour de Freedom by cimber · · Score: 3, Funny

    Slate says the Tour de France pales

    That's Tour de Freedom if you please.

  41. Re:What is Jeopardy!? by rkhalloran · · Score: 4, Informative
    OK, I'll assume this isn't a troll.

    For the non-US readership: three contestants with a ring-in button. 'Hook' for the show is that you get an 'answer' and have to respond in the form of a question ("The US President who wrote the Declaration of Independence"; "Who is Thomas Jefferson?")

    Three rounds: first two consist of six categories of five questions each (game 'board' is six columns of five monitors each). Cash value of questions in first round runs $200-1000. in $200 increments, second round ('Double Jeopardy') runs $400-2000 in $400 jumps. You lose the value of the question on wrong answers, so you can potentially run negative. There are random 'Daily Double' squares (one in first round, two in second), where you can wager some/all of your winnings on getting that item correct, allowing for big shifts in position during the game. Third round ('Final Jeopardy') the players wager some/all of their winnings on a single question/answer; high total wins for the day.

    Former rule was five days and you're out (but eligible for the year-end 'Tournament of Champions'); this has been dropped this year allowing for the current streak of said Ken J.

  42. Jeopardy addict, am I by The+I+Shing · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I watch Jeopardy!, I childishly yell out "Triple Stumper!" whenever I know the correct response and all three of the contestants either get it wrong or don't respond, and I'll sometimes do a little dance.

    And if that happens during Final Jeopardy, I yell out "Final Jeopardy Triple Stumper!" and I'll break into an extended, elaborate dance, not unlike a wide receiver dancing in the endzone after a touchdown. I get maybe one of those every three months. The evening when I performed that dance while watching Jeopardy! with my girlfriend and her parents is particularly memorable.

    Then there was a friend of mine who got a "Ultimate Mega Final Jeopardy Triple Stumper," where he correctly guessed the response before the clue was even given, knowing only the category, and all three contestants got it wrong. As I recall, his head exploded. That was quite a day.

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  43. Tour does not Pale in comparison by Bricklets · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think it may be difficult for many Americans to appreciate what a feat Lance Armstrong has been able to accomplish by winning these past few Tours. I happenly vacationed in Paris last summer around the time the Tour was going on, and let me say that was one insane tour Armstrong had to go through. I'd never seen cycling before then, but I'm now forever hooked. On the first day there was a massive crash among the huge swarm of cyclists in their final dash to the finishing line. Armstrong had also crashed. On the ground with his bike broken, one of his teammates stopped beside him and handed him his own bike so that Armstrong could finish the race. Amazing.

    Another time the tires of a cyclist in front of him exploded and that cyclist went skidding across the pavement. I don't remember how fast they were going (maybe 40-50mph), but Armstrong just barely misses running the guy over but had to swerve off track onto the grass before finally getting back on the road and continuing on. And there was one day when due to perhaps his own mistake, he ran out of water. By the time he finished that day he was completely dehydrated and had lost 1/3 of his body mass. Crazy.

    And finally the tour had a thriller of an ending. I think the day before the Tour ended Armstrong was still neck and neck with this closest competitor. Racing through a timed trial in the rain, Armstrong finished a bit slow if I remember correctly, but the other guy ended crashing on the wet road, losing too much time and hence guaranteed Armstrong's victory. A toss-up to the very end. Amazing.

    And so while Ken Jennings is certainly impressive with his winnings so far, I'd be hard press to say that the Tour pales in comparison.

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    1. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by pmc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ah - you missed out the moutain stage - stage 15 - where he effectively won the race. He was going up this HC climb (really steep and long) with Jan Ullrich and Tyler Hamilton in his group - the leader of the stage being about a minute a head.

      Lance attacked and was starting to pull away when his handlebar got caught on a spectator's bag and he crashed to the ground most spectacularly. Jan's and Tyler's group went by him and slowed to wait - tradition demands you beat the yellow jersey, not take advantage of misfortune.

      Lance climbed back on his bike and immediately the chain slipped and he went groin first into the top-bar - eyewatering stuff. He got his rhythm again, caught up with the group. And kept going - straight through them. Tyler and Jan just could not respond and Lance went on to win the stage by 40 seconds. This gave him enough margin to eliminate any possible challenge in the last time trial.

      Tyler Hamilton, incidently, broke his collar-bone on stage one. He still went on to win a stage and finish overall fourth last year. True "Clash of the Titans" stuff. And people think a quiz-show compares?

    2. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by EmagGeek · · Score: 2, Informative

      I still cringe deeply to the core of my being every time I see the replay of Joseba Beloki's fateful crash in Stage 9 last year. Indeed, Armstrong put his cyclocross skills to good use to avoid that crash, but I remember hearing Beloki's screams of agony as he lay there on the ground, both himself and his bike, broken.

      He had a compound fracture of his elbow and broke his Femur (in two places, IIRC). That was by far one of the worst crashes I have ever seen involving only one rider, and is one of the many reasons I will never ride tubulars.

      What had happened was that, in braking down the hill, the rear rim heated enough to soften the glue that was holding his tire on... he lost the tire, and down he went.

      Just one minor argument, however. I think that if you lose 1/3 of your body mass in water, you're dead. Usually if you lose just 3-4% of your bodyweight in water, you lose the ability to move effectively. 33% is just fatal :)

    3. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by Alsee · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bah, anyone can ride a bike. But how many people know the combination to Kirk's safe in episode 25, where the crew of the Enterprise gets attacked by these spores and started acting real weird, like hippies and stuff.

      I'd just like to say... GET A LIFE, will you? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just BICYCLING! I mean, look at you, look at the way you're dressed, pink and black SPANDEX! You've turned an enjoyable little toy, that we all played with for a few years as children, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME!

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  44. how else? by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Interesting
    muscle memory...

    I occasionally go overseas to visit extended family.. i get tapped by friends of the family to look at computers, these folks have win 3.1 (and even one with win 3.0) and win 95 machines

    I typed a 80% complete autoexec.bat from scratch, just by letting my fingers go.. I was trying on the way over to the house, (knew what I was going to be doing) to remember all the lines, and couldn't.
    with dos edit open, and a lable at the top that read 'autoexec.bat' it just kinda oozed outta my fingers non-stop....

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  45. just like a towel by emilng · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you're going to reliably answer a question about who happened to be president in a given year, then you pretty much have to know the entire chronology of the presidency

    Just like if you had a towel then you pretty much have to be in possession of a toothbrush, washcloth, soap, tin of biscuits, flask, compass, map, ball of string, gnat spray, wet-weather gear, space suit etc., etc.

    1. Re:just like a towel by El_Smack · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, if you have a towel, you don't need all that other stuff.

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  46. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by sindarin2001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll take "Anal bum covers" Alex.

  47. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by vgaphil · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The day is mine Trebek!"

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  48. Re:The Tour by YetAnotherDave · · Score: 2, Informative

    their bikes are less of a factor than the fact that the riders are:
    a) rediculously fit
    b) _really_ good at getting the most benefit from drafting. It cuts wind resistance by a huge amount for riders to be wheel-to-wheel...

  49. Obiously he's not playing well by Jahf · · Score: 2, Interesting
    (I had this scripted out years ago while doing an exercise in cubicle boredom ... figured I'd update it with the new points and add a line to compare his winnings :)

    Obviously he is not playing very efficiently as he has been winning only about .15% of the theoretical max (which for 26 days is $5,512,000)!


    #!/usr/bin/perl
    # jeopardy.pl ... determine the theoretical max winnings on Jeopardy!
    # optimal daily double location is the 6th $400
    $singleJeopardy = ((1000*6)+(800*6)+(600*6)+(400*6)+(200*5))*2;
    pri nt "Max Single Jeopardy round = $singleJeopardy\n";
    # doubleJeopardy doubles answer values
    # doubleJeopardy has 2 daily doubles
    # ... must sub value of 1 and double a 2nd time
    # ... again optimally the double replaces the lowest value, $400
    $doubleJeopardy = ($singleJeopardy - 400)*2;
    print "Max Double Jeopardy round = $doubleJeopardy\n";
    $finalJeopardy = ($singleJeopardy + $doubleJeopardy) * 2;
    print "Max Final Jeopardy! Winnings: $finalJeopardy\n";
    $totalJeopardy = $finalJeopardy * 26;
    print "26 days ... \$828,960 / $totalJeopardy = " . 828960 / $totalJeopardy . "% of max\n";

    # Results of "perl jeopardy.pl":
    # Max Single Jeopardy round = 35600
    # Max Double Jeopardy round = 70400
    # Max Final Jeopardy! Winnings: 212000
    # 26 days ... $828,960 / 5512000 = 0.150391872278665% of max


    ... while you can't assume that the daily doubles will always be in the lowest point category, that doesn't make too much difference in the overall points.

    It also shows why Super Millionaire is the place to play if you have that many trivial bits up top ... $10,000,000 in 30 minutes versus less than $1,000,000 in a month of playing (unless Jeopardy! runs that contestant 7 days a week he's over a month). Hopefully for his sake *laugh* they won't disqualify him from SM.

    I mean ... really!

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  50. ken's winning... and SPOILER by Mickey+Jameson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    [spoiler]
    Ken wins until July 23rd, the last episode of this season. When the next season airs, he wins the first 10 shows, amassing somewhere in the tune of $1.5 million.

    This season stopped taping in February and he can't legally comment on anything related to the show until his reign is over.
    [/spoiler]

    That said, I don't think this guy is all that special. Who knows how many prior 5 day champs could have done what Ken has.

    And don't ask me how I know. Let's just say a little birdie told me.

    1. Re:ken's winning... and SPOILER by polyiguana · · Score: 2, Informative

      From Usenet:

      The current season of Jeopardy will air new shows through July 23.
      From then until sometime right after Labor Day they will air repeats.

      Jeopardy wrapped taping of this season's shows in April, at which time
      they also taped the first ten shows of next season.

      As of the July 23rd show Ken Jennings will have won 38 shows, and when
      they return in the fall he will be seen to win the first ten shows of
      the new season, with a cumulative total winning somewhere around 1.5
      million.

      They will resume taping for the 2004-5 season sometime in August, when
      Ken Jennings will return to continue as undefeated champion for who
      knows how long. So yes, Ken is home in Utah right now, waiting until
      August.

  51. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by imranius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Trebek: Your answer...[screen reads "Buck"]
    Oh, I'm sorry...that must be your wager.
    A Buck. And you answer is... [ screen reads "Futter" ] Futter.
    Buck Futter, I don't get it.

    Connery: Ohhhh...I think you do, Trebek. I think you do, indeed!

    Trebek: Well, thanks for joining us...

    Sean Connery: [ yelling ] Buck Futter!!

  52. How do they keep the audience quiet? by Cuthbert+Calculus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Especially considering these are taped weeks in advance. I know the contestants are sworn to secrecy, but how do they make sure no one in the audience squeals? I mean--presuming he's lost by now--surely someone at the taping must have seen it. That's an awful lot of mouths to keep quiet.

    1. Re:How do they keep the audience quiet? by GeoGreg · · Score: 3, Funny

      You think the audience members get out of the studio alive? Where do you think Soylent Green comes from?

  53. Re:Wheel of Fortune Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by cmpalmer · · Score: 3, Funny

    My best Wheel of Fortune guess was:

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    _ _ _ _ _

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    (person)

    I walked in when this puzzle flashed on the screen and I said, "Senator Barry Goldwater" and it was. No letters at all.

    Back in high school I was captain of my school's Scholar's Bowl team. In our championship game, we were really nervous and had too much caffeine before the match. The moderator started the game:

    "Toss up number one: Sher..."

    My finger slipped and I pressed my button. We had to answer or the other team could hear the entire question. So I said, "Robin Hood" and got it right. We won the match -- I think the other team got a bit demoralized.

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  54. Re:I Just Hope... by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I saw one Millionare show here in the US.. I swear the guy was cheating.

    Regis kept asking him why he was fiddling with his ear.

    The guy worked for some secret government agency, and wouldn't talk about his job.

    When he did a phone a friend, there was feedback on the line, something that could only happen if his phone friend was listening to the show be recorded live.

    The guy was on twice, and quit both times at the half million dollar level. The second time, half the money was for charity.

    I never saw any news story about this guy, so I guess he got away with it. Nice way to pull down $750,000 leveraging high tech survelliance gear.

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  55. He has a webpage! (for real) by kaden · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet (apparantly). Ken Jennings has a webpage! I'm sorry to report to the /. crowd that it was designed in MS Word. But it seems to be more of a personal checklist (and a window into how he got so much "useless" knowledge) than a page he intended for other people to see.

  56. An old friend in Utah... by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think it's impossible for my Slashdot-oriented brain to process "software" and "Utah" and "domination" all in the same sentence, and have it end up positive.

    Positive or Negative: Novell NetWare, version 2.x, circa 1988, almost 100% market share

    Positive or Negative: Novell SuSE Linux/Ximian "dotGNU", version 10.x, circa 2008, almost 100% market share

  57. And The Categories Are... by qtone42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'll take "Swords" for $1000, Trebeck!

  58. Re:Incredible (Conspiracy theory follows) by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's like he knows one of the guys who makes up the trivia. It's really incredible.

    OK, this is probably just paranoid thoughts going through my head, but give me a chance.

    Think about this. The Jeopardy people approach some guy. Say, hey we can fix you up with the answers for the questions and you will be the all time Jeopardy champ of champs. You will win about $1 mil on the show, and loose to somebody. We will give you $250,000 upfront and $250,000 when its over.

    So, the ratings go through the roof for Jeopardy (more $$$). The Jeopardy people are actually paying out 1/2 of their prize money, and the nerdy guy comes out with a cool 1/2 mil, and people enjoy seeing him win and talking about it.

    Sounds like a win-win situation for everybody.

    Are there any ethics to game shows? I mean most everything else is fiction on TV, do game shows have to be real?

  59. Re:The Tour by ipfwadm · · Score: 2, Informative

    I often wonder what the ratio between gears on the professionals' bikes are. A lot of times when I'm riding downhill I'm pedaling as fast as I can with no tension left to gain speed. I need a better bike. 'Course no bike in the world is going to make me anything near as fast as those guys.

    The maximum gearing I have on my road bike is 53 teeth in the front and 12 in the back. Note that the average mountain bike or hybrid has nothing near this gear ratio. You need a racing bike to get this. I don't think pro racing bikes are too terribly different from this -- they might have a couple more teeth in the front and maybe an 11 in the back. If you look at pros ride, they usually have an incredibly high cadence (in other words, they pedal really fast). Sprinters will spin their legs at well over 100 or 120 rpms. Even climbers will often sit in the saddle and spin -- it's much easier to maintain high RPMs and low torque than it is the opposite. The average person would be bouncing all over the place at 100 rpms.

  60. Re:Incredible (Conspiracy theory follows) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am pretty sure that is illegal, based upon my extensive knowledge of the movie Quizshow.

  61. Chuck would beat KenJen hands down! by pbegley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ken is doing a good job. He has techniques like answering with the fewest details and always phrases his answers as a question.

    However, the only reason he has won 25 days in a row is because they changed the rules of the game.

    I forget his last name, but supercontestant Chuck from the 80's would clean KenJen's clock. Chuck gave very complete answers, including one reference in Hebrew that the judges missed the first time and gave him points after researching the answer.

    Anyone remember Chuck's last name? He didn't win the overall on one of the Champion match-ups, but he was a very impressive contestant.

    1. Re:Chuck would beat KenJen hands down! by GeoGreg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Chuck Forrest. Who, according to this site is hunting Iraqi war criminals.

  62. Political Theory by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Speaking of which, does anyone else notice that Bush advertises on Wheel of Fortune and Kerry on Jeopardy?

    Here in Atlanta, the local NBC affiliate bumped Jeopardy down from 7:00 into an afternoon time slot in favor of another local news program (in case folks missed the one at 6:00 due to our prolonged exposure to extremely heavy traffic). My guess is that Junior's folks are just playing to the percentages - looking to "borrow eyeballs" from greatest number of post-local news viewers.

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  63. Re:Lance has a unique "condition". by Crazy+Man+on+Fire · · Score: 2, Informative

    That is correct. Lance produces lactic acid at an insanely reduced rate. This allows him to push himself much further before fatigue and eventual exhaustion and muscle failure set in.

  64. So how good will the *next* champion be? by debest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Assuming that he doesn't just quit first....

    The guy is so good, you know that he'll never do anything stupid enough to lose. There have likely been many like him on this show, but they never had this chance (the limit on 5 wins cut them off).

    It will take another super-duper geek to beat him. Is this the future of Jeopardy? "Unbeatable" champions that just win for months at a time? Personally, that'll get boring quick. Having a heroic run once in a while is thrilling: having it happen all the time is just dull. Michael Schumacher's dominance has similarly turned me off of F1 racing.

    Methinks another rule change may be in the making for next season: a cap on earnings. Maybe $1,000,000 is the right amount.

    BTW, I'm REALLY looking forward to a "Tournament of Champions" where he can square off against some of the others that got cut off at 5 wins. I think he'd do well (likely very well), but he'd certainly not be a lock to beat some of the others we've seen on this show in the past.

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  65. video games by supergwiz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm sure he is a gamer. How would explain is god-like timing for the answer button.

  66. Quote from Newsweek magazine by Octagon+Most · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "I feel like 'Cactus Gavvy' Cravath. Do you know who that is? Right. Nobody does. He's the guy who had the home run record before Babe Ruth came along." Tom Walsh, of Washington, D.C., who held the record for "Jeopardy" winnings until Ken Jennings of Salt Lake City broke it recently

    - Newsweek 7/12/04 issue

  67. Re:Lance has a unique "condition". by JohnsonWax · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In a previous life, I worked at a company that wrote software for sports computers - heart rate, mph, what have you. They hired a guy to come and test the software - ride the bike, treadmill, etc. who had this same condition.

    He was amazing - he could ride/run at full speed nearly without limit. So long as he kept refueling - getting oxygen and nutrients, he said mentally he could go nearly forever since he never experienced fatigue pain. The danger was that his body gave him no clues before failure. He could ride until his heart failed or his muscles tore. To him, the computers were necessary because he could make sure his heart rate stayed below critical levels and he could stop himself before he did any real damage.

  68. Re:Incredible (Conspiracy theory follows) by nelsonal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think you are correct also based on my extensive knowledge of Quizshow, but I'm curious why there was a congressional investigation into a television game show? It's good TV, why does it matter (legally or not) if it's fixed? Sure Pro Wrestling isn't the Olympics (not that they aren't just as corrupt) but it remains a fairly popular entertainment medium? Why was/is it so important?

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  69. Re:Wheel of Fortune Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by ameoba · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here's one for you, along the same vein...

    We were at the state Knowledge Bowl tourney and, somewhere in the middle of the 2nd round, we were in a 4-5 question set of "parts of speech" or somesuch. I accidentally hit the buzzer before the reader could completely get out the "what" at the start of the question. My team-mates glared at me, thinking that, for certain, I had blown the point. I said the first thing that came to mind...

    "Past Participle" ...and it was right. Unfortunately, we got smoked that round.

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  70. That's "allele" and it sounds correct by drjzzz · · Score: 2, Informative

    An "allele" is like the flavor of the gene, one particular sequence along the length of the chromosome containing the gene. Some genes have hundreds of alleles whereas others have very few or even a single sequence in the population. For example, the hundreds of "histocompatibility" alleles make it very hard to match transplant organ donors and recipients (HLA-B has >300 alleles). In contrast, the proteins that help compact DNA, histones, are highly conserved and differ only very slightly between even humans and peas (a fact that I still find amazing).

    Briefly, the Millionaire" answer sounds correct!

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  71. Conspiracy? Perhaps. by david_reese · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Because of the Quiz Show scandal, Jeopardy and other game shows are monitored very closely by the Standards and Practices guys.

    And who monitors them? Seriously, these days with all sorts of corruption coming to light in business and government, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some of these "Standards and Practices guys" have ties to the network execs or show owners.

    Perhaps this is a test run, to see what the audience will eat up... a quick search on google turned up nothing on these "standards" guys.

  72. Interesting Stats by stevemm81 · · Score: 2, Informative

    They have some interesting stats on Jennings at tvgameshows.net. Apparently he's number 4 among all winners on syndicated game shows in terms of money earned (after the Million Dollar Tournament Of Champs Jeopardy winner and two syndicated Who Wants to Be a Millionaire Winners) and number 3 in all time number of game show appearances.

    The site also keeps track of his average winning and the number of wins he needs to hit various milestones.

  73. Some good TdF links!!! by mildness · · Score: 2, Informative
    Today had another fantastic stage. Lance went from Yellow Jersey to nine and a half minutes down! To add some perspective to that, Lance's winning margin last year was 61 seconds.

    Linkage:

    Le Tour

    BBC's Le Tour page

    The Guardian's page has excellant recaps

    Sports Illustrated's page

    ESPN

    OLN has the DAILY TV SCHEDULE

    8:30-9am ET LIVE Pre-Race Show
    9-11am ET LIVE Coverage
    12pm-2pm ET Re-Air of Live Coverage
    2:30-4:30pm ET Re-Air of Live Coverage
    5-7pm ET The Roadside Tour
    7:30-8pm ET Eastern Prime Time Pre-Race Show
    8-8:30pm PT Pacific Prime Time Pre-race Show
    8-10:30pm ET Eastern Prime Time Expanded Coverage
    8:30-11pm PT Pacific Prime Time Expanded Coverage

    Any other link recommendations?

    Billy

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  74. Re:what Daytime TV? by trubador · · Score: 2, Informative

    Jeopardy! is syndicated. It airs at different times in different markets. (3 p.m. in Dallas/Fort Worth)

  75. Re:Wheel of Fortune Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 2, Funny


    Reminds me of the first time I ever saw someone on the old Name That Tune say, "I can name that tune in no notes!" ...and succeed.

    The story would be much more entertaining, of course, if the tune in question had been John Cage's 4'33".