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PowerBook Upgrade and Repair Guides

kwiens writes "We had such a positive response from Slashdot with our Free-As-In-Beer Mac disassembly instructions last time around, we decided to do it again: We've made six more FixIt Guides, perfect for those intrepid road-warriors who refuse to trust anyone else to work on their 'Book. Now there's nothing stopping you from trying that LNO2 overclock on your PowerBook-- or just a hard drive upgrade. The new Guides have professional photos, a new GUI design, and screw guides (no, not this). Guides are now available for all iBook G3, PowerBook G3, and PowerBook G4 models (including the oft-requested 12, 15, and 17 Aluminum 'Books)."

156 comments

  1. Short upgrade guide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Install Yellow Dog Linux

    2. ???

    3. Profit!

    1. Re:Short upgrade guide by AnonymousAtCowHerds · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Obviously, you're not a golfer.

  2. This is ridiculous. by Moofie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everybody knows that Macintoshes are hermetically sealed at the factory and can never ever be upgraded.

    I'm serious! There's a taser in there that zaps you in the butt if you try!

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    1. Re:This is ridiculous. by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      Yet Apple forgot to account for those who have taser-butt fetishes. Tsk, tsk. You'd think they would know better than to leave that risk out in the open.

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    2. Re:This is ridiculous. by Moofie · · Score: 3, Funny

      My Powerbook zaps me in the ass every time I bring my Leatherman near it.

      I kinda like it, really...

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    3. Re:This is ridiculous. by aycaramba · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      The mods really seem to like you... :-)

    4. Re:This is ridiculous. by easter1916 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I wish I hadn't read your post; It made me feel all dirty.

    5. Re:This is ridiculous. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Everybody knows that Macintoshes are hermetically sealed at the factory and can never ever be upgraded.

      I don't understand why anyone would want to upgrade a Mac in the first place. When it gets too slow or is out of the 3 year Applecare warranty then just throw it out and get a new one. Why would you want a computer that's older than 3 years old anyway? It probably has a shmegma buildup under the keys that is very difficult to clean.

    6. Re:This is ridiculous. by WiseWeasel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, it's true that it's usually not cost effective to upgrade most components of Macs, but not for the reason you thing. Macs keep a very strong resale value, so it's usually cheaper to sell your old one and buy a new one than to upgrade things like processors and other expensive components. For basic upgrades such as drives and memory, it does make sense, but for more substantial upgrades, it's usually a better value proposition to just trade up for a new model. It's not uncommon to see Macs several years old going for >$1000 used, decreasing the upgrade cost significantly.

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  3. How about NORMAL laptops? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I need such a guide for my Asus W1n, which just broke down! Bringing it back to the store for repairs will take eight weeks, which I frankly, can't afford.

    Too much to ask?

    1. Re:How about NORMAL laptops? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too much to ask?

      Yes

    2. Re:How about NORMAL laptops? by WiseWeasel · · Score: 4, Informative

      Just open the thing up and figure it out for yourself. It's not rocket science, you know. I've done a bunch of upgrades on PowerBooks without a manual or guide, and it was pretty easy, once you've located the proper screws and whatnot. If it's a simple drive replacement or something, just make sure you have a torx screwdriver set and get crackin.

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    3. Re:How about NORMAL laptops? by morpheus800e · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I don't know anything about your particular laptop, but IBM has very thorough disassembly instructions for their ThinkPad models available. These can be found in the "Hardware Maintenance Manual" for the particular series of laptops. Here's the HMM for the T40, T41 and T42 for example. (Found via a google search for ThinkPad Hardware Maintenance Manual.)

      I needed instructions for taking apart an older model (unknown issue, which turned out to be a CPU problem), and found IBM's instructions immensely helpful. Why other manufacturers don't do this for their products, I don't know.

  4. Considering how Apple treats it's customers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Considering how Apple treats it's customers that did not shell out the several hundred bucks for Apple care those guides are badly needed.

    At least in Germany you have to pay at least 350 Euros if you want Apple to repair your 'book that is older then one year. Of course it's very well possible that you have to pay even more if something seriouse is broken, but even if just a part costing 5 Cents and taking two minutes to replace is broken you'll still have to pay 350 bucks.

    To sum it up, I really like Apple's hardware, I really like OSX but personally I'll never buy anything from Apple again.

    1. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by nordicfrost · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I haven't paid Apple one dime in extended waranty, yet they have done more than I ever expected from a company. Once, when they screwd up a warranty replacement (it was a bit of a hassle and involved sending back the keyboard twice), they gave me a Apple Bluetooth mouse as a way of saying "We fucked up, we're sorry. Now go play with theis shiny thing". And it worked on me!

    2. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Informative

      At least in Germany you have to pay at least 350 Euros if you want Apple to repair your 'book that is older then one year.

      Depends where you get it from - not Germany, but I bought my iBook from John Lewis here in the UK. Two year repair-or-replacement warranty for free.

      It really pays to shop around. :-)

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    3. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by cerberusss · · Score: 4, Insightful
      At least in Germany you have to pay at least 350 Euros if you want Apple to repair your 'book that is older then one year

      I don't see how this is different from other products that have a one year guarantee.

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    4. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference is that you are buying a premium product that has the nice shiny Apple logo on it, while at the same time getting reamed in the ass in prices. You shouldn't have to worry about paying for that type of extended warranty.

    5. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by cerberusss · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I bought a keyboard from Kinesis. It broke after the warranty of two years. $300 down the drain. That's how it goes.

      Maybe I could've bought an extended warranty, but I thought I'd take the chance. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I think it's a bit childish to start whining in a public forum when you decided to take the chance and lost.

      OTOH if they refuse to cooperate within the guarantee, then you fully stand in your rights.

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    6. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple taking money for a repair once the warranty expired isn't the problem, taking at least 350 bucks no matter what's broken is the problem.

    7. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      And you didn't know this before you bought the equipment? Don't be daft, man. I've bought mobile telephones, CD players, video recorders, etc which went broke. It's no use repairing them. That's the world we live in. I still maintain that you're whining.

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    8. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Erm wait. They fucked up once with early failure, meaning you needed a replacement under warranty. Then having got the thing processed for repairs, they fuck up a second time by not even repairing it correctly. But rather than concerning yourself with the quick failure of their equipment and their failure to fix it correctly, you now see Apple in a positive light.. because they gave you a mouse at the end? I really, really should have gone into "business".

    9. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by boaworm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Considering how Apple treats it's customers that did not shell out the several hundred bucks for Apple care those guides are badly needed.

      My PowerBook (a 550) had several dead pixels, and I reported this to my local apple reseller after 18 months. They told me to call apple support, so I did.

      I talked for 5 minutes to a lovely girl on Ireland, she mailed me an "extended warranty" something paper, and then Apple (through my local store) replaced my screen for free. The warranty had expired 6 months ago, and they still did it for free.

      The lovely irish girl only asked one question, "Were there any dead pixels on the screen before the warranty expired", and i (truthfully) answered yes. End of discussion.

      Apple does take good care of non-Apple-care customers as well.

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    10. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      Well, Dell does the exact same thing. So do others.

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    11. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I really, really should have gone into "business".
      There is a lot more in money in it compared to engineering or IT. But really, do you think that customer service is a part of "business" and not business?
    12. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by nordicfrost · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Acutally, I ordrered a keyboard, and they sent me one with a slightly bent space key (Think 3 mm offsett from the left o the right). I called, they UPSed me a return package along with a new KB. I opened the package after the UPS guy (Jaq!) left, and they had sent me an English KB. That makes it kinda hard to write Æ Ø and Å. I called, they sent a new UPS guy next day with a KB. This time it had ÆØÅ, but it was the 1/2 year older version of the KB, still new, though. I actually liked it a bit better. So I called them and said that I'd take that KB, but how 'bout some compensation? I was thinking 1/2 price off a wired mouse, they gave me a free Bluetooth mouse.


      That is customer service. Note that this is also the only time ever that I had any problem with the Apple customer service, and it ended beautifully.

    13. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by AvantLegion · · Score: 2, Funny
      The lovely irish girl only asked one question, "Were there any dead pixels on the screen before the warranty expired", and i (truthfully) answered yes. End of discussion.

      Forget the damn laptop, get her number!

      Irish chicks are hot.

    14. Re:Considering how Apple treats it's customers by andynz · · Score: 1
      Amen to that. This post is very timely. The built in ethernet on my G4 powerbook failed last month (within warranty). They have had it 2 weeks, and finally told me today that it is not covered by warrantly as the fault is not a result of normal use, the ethernet port has cracked off the logic board apparently.

      I am incredibly pissed off with them, the ethernet cable was being plugged in and unplugged twice a day, I guess it just fatigued, but those assholes refuse to give me, the customer, the benefit of the doubt. I told them where to stick ther £600 logic board replacement. I can probably just fix it with some superglue and solder. If not, I will replace the logic board myself. At least I have an airport card, so I am not dependent on the ethernet port.

      I believe that, at least in the UK, apple are staffed by a bunch of incompetent lazy bastards (they are in ireland after all). I had to call 6 times (yes, 6) in order to get the powerbook picked up at all, I have spent over an hour and a half on the phone to them, not counting the time I spent arguing my case this afternoon.

      Fuck the lot of them, I'm taking my business elsewhere.

  5. Paint fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still no one has come up with bezel replacements for the titaniums which had paint problems. Shame on apple for not dealing with those paint issues.....my powerbook just looks ugly now.

    1. Re:Paint fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Paint it yourself. Think for yourself.

    2. Re:Paint fix by WiseWeasel · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just sandblast the thing and go for a 5uP3r-1337 look (make sure to tape over all the openings and all around the hinge first). Either that, or cover it in stickers... If you're just not 1337 enough, try this.

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  6. That's just wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hack PC hardware all the time. Build my own boxes. I have an old "server" hanging on the wall like a painting, with no case (hurry up and die already please so I can throw it away...)

    But I ain't taking apart my 17" powerbook. No way. I can't even stand looking at those pictures of somebody's grubby hands taking apart that powerbook, and all the sensitive guts exposed.

    I know, it's just a motherboard and a hard drive, and all the stuff that's in my other computers. But no there's got to be something magical in there too, something you can't see, something that escapes when you open it.

    And what if I were to get a screwdriver near it and .. it .. SCRATCHED it.. OMG I can't stand this any more, I'm going to go hold my powerbook for a few minutes to make everything better. It's so warm and cuddly.

    Stop looking at me like that!

    1. Re:That's just wrong. by wdd1040 · · Score: 0

      I have an old "server" hanging on the wall like a painting, with no case (hurry up and die already please so I can throw it away...) Could have just posted a link to it.

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  7. Love it... by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 4, Informative

    especially this link

    I don't know how many times in the last six months I've heard idiots on IRC claim powerbook 12 inch models don't have fans because apple skimped on the design.

    It's nice to be able to show proof. All hail intarweb.

    1. Re:Love it... by imnuts2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I had a iBook G3 12" and i thought it did not have a fan in it for 3 years that i own it. Then after installing 10.3 while watching a DVD the fan kicked in.

    2. Re:Love it... by Templar · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and the fan is right under the keyboard, so when you wife drops a cup of coffee on the keyboard, it hits the fan and gets sprayed all over the motherboard. Great design!

    3. Re:Love it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      But when you drop it in your swiming pool the fan acts as a propeller and keeps the iBook afloat until you can dive in and save it.
      Sounds like perfect placement to me.......

      I think you need a new wife not a different laptop.....

    4. Re:Love it... by seann · · Score: 1

      don't have fans?

      This fucking thing is TAKING OFF right now.

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    5. Re:Love it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...because liquid will not spread by itself? Fucking nigger.

  8. Do NOT follow this guide! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have followed it 100% and I have LOST MY WARRANTY! Please be smarter than I was.

    1. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by FireFury03 · · Score: 3, Funny

      There's something quite Darwinian going on here. Of course you're going to lose your warranty if you rip apart your laptop, duh! Or are you one of the people who needs labels on the mains power sockets telling you that if you stick a fork in each hole and hang onto them you might get a shock?

    2. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by WiseWeasel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've done HD replacements in a PowerBook that was still under warranty at the time. It was even a thicker HD than the ones Apple uses (12mm instead of 9.5mm 2.5" drives) so it was pretty obvious that it wasn't the default drive. Drives are not part of the CIPs for PowerBooks, so technically, it may have been something I shouldn't have done. The FireWire port (on the motherboard) was fried about a year later (just shy of the 3-year warranty period), and Apple gladly replaced the entire motherboard free of charge with fast turnaround (through an Apple Reseller). Apparently, if your upgrades don't break something through your ignorance, Apple doesn't really care what you do. The take-home lesson here: go ahead and tinker all you want, just make sure you don't break something where you're not supposed to be. Warranty shouldn't be negatively impacted.

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    3. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by ShroomSolo · · Score: 2, Informative

      It all depends on who you take it to. If you take it to an apple store or send it to them, Yes your warranty is voided. If you take it to an authorized service center and they do it in shop, as long as theres no physical damage or spillage, they can swap out the part for ya. Its not hard to tell when someone's been playing in there. Theres thermal pads etc. Plus the drives have little apple logos on them.

    4. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by pyite · · Score: 5, Informative

      There's a reason they fixed your motherboard without question. They're legally obligated to (at least in the USA). From the Magnuson-Moss act 16 C.F.R. 700.10 section 102(c):

      "No warrantor may condition the continued validity of a warranty on the use of only authorized repair service and/or authorized replacement parts for non-warranty service and maintenance. For example, provisions such as, 'This warranty is void if service is performed by anyone other than an authorized "ABC" dealer and all replacement parts must be genuine "ABC" parts,' and the like, are prohibited where the service or parts are not covered by the warranty. These provisions violate the Act in two ways. First, they violate the section 102 (c) ban against tying arrangements. Second, such provisions are deceptive under section 110 of the Act, because a warrantor cannot, as a matter of law, avoid liability under a written warranty where a defect is unrelated to the use by a consumer of "unauthorized" articles or service. This does not preclude a warrantor from expressly excluding liability for defects or damage caused by such "unauthorized" articles or service; nor does it preclude the warrantor from denying liability where the warrantor can demonstrate that the defect or damage was so caused."

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    5. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by yofan · · Score: 1

      of course you are going to lose your warranty.... anytime you do anything other than proscribed in the manual voids the warranty. you only do this as last resort.... not some upgrade fancy... unless you already are out of warranty.

    6. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by coolgeek · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not to mention the PowerBook User's Guide (the one for the average user) provides instructions for opening your PB and replacing the hard drive.

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    7. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by ThatsNotFunny · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have followed it 100% and I have LOST MY WARRANTY!

      You lost your Warranty? Maybe it's in your sock drawer. That's where I keep all my important paperwork. Where do you last remember seeing it?

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    8. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by coolgeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It never ceases to amaze me how someone posting a helpful link on /. turns into a bunch of self-professed "experts" commenting on something with which they obviously have absolutely no experience.

      I would like to point out not a single one of the "it will void your warranty" people relay an account of being denied warranty service on an Apple computer. It's all just a bunch of hypothetical neck-talk.

      What we do see in the realm of actual experience is that cracking the case in fact did not void Apple's warranty. I would like to add my actual experience here.

      With my old TiPB, I actually followed the instructions in the manual for replacing my hard drive. I installed a non-factory 7200 RPM drive (not even offered on the PB I had), without an Apple sticker on it. While I was in there, I completely disassembled the unit, just to feed that kid inside me that wants to take everything apart. Put it back together, no screws left over, btw.

      Months later, I sent it DIRECTLY to Apple for a warranty repair. It was repaired and sent back to me. In less than 3 days, I might add (that was a jab at all the other "experts" that say Apple doesn't repair quickly). Not once did they mention the user-servicing of my system. Oh, and they did throw in a new battery because the foot had come off the battery.

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    9. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      Or are you one of the people who needs labels on the mains power sockets telling you that if you stick a fork in each hole and hang onto them you might get a shock?

      Maybe we need a howto for that.

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    10. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by dave-tx · · Score: 2, Informative
      I would like to point out not a single one of the "it will void your warranty" people relay an account of being denied warranty service on an Apple computer. It's all just a bunch of hypothetical neck-talk.

      You're right. Before buying my Powerbook, I asked one of the salesdroids at the local Apple store if replacing the hard drive on my own would void the warranty. He emphasized the point that I could take it completely apart and it would not void the warranty. However, if I damaged it in the process of doing my own work, the warranty would not cover repairs.

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    11. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right. Before buying my Powerbook, I asked one of the salesdroids at the local Apple store if replacing the hard drive on my own would void the warranty. He emphasized the point that I could take it completely apart and it would not void the warranty. However, if I damaged it in the process of doing my own work, the warranty would not cover repairs.

      Let me guess... You are American, right? I know it because are consulting THE CORPORATION instead of THE LAW to know what does and what does not void your warranty. Stupid at best, insulting to the rest of the world at worst.

    12. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me guess, you're not an English speaker, right? I know because I have no idea what you just said...

    13. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by dave-tx · · Score: 1
      Let me guess... You are American, right? I know it because are consulting THE CORPORATION instead of THE LAW to know what does and what does not void your warranty. Stupid at best, insulting to the rest of the world at worst.

      No need to be an asshole about it (and doubly lame hiding behind AC while doing it). I'm just reporting what I was told. If you have any evidence to the contrary (site the wording in the LAW that contradicts what I was told), then by all means, post it. If not, go fuck yourself.

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    14. Re:Do NOT follow this guide! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me guess, you're not very bright, right? I know because you have no idea what I just said while it is actually quite clear.

  9. iBook G4 by QueenOfSwords · · Score: 1

    Seems to be missing from the list :) But most of those wouldn't be out of warranty yet.
    I will be doing a hdd upgrade at some point though.

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    1. Re:iBook G4 by ShroomSolo · · Score: 1

      Be careful if you do! My co-worker (apple certified) breaks the power button connector on about 1/2 the one's he's done. He's been fixing macs for 5+ years. He's good... its just poor craftsmanship. Kinda like the speaker connector on the older thinkpads.. my nemmisis. I'm not overly fond of cracking ibooks... and cracking is the right word =)

  10. Good point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very good point. People should be aware that they may lose their warrnty if they do exactly what is said in that guide. It is not clear yet it is crucial. Please mod parent up.

  11. Mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is important to keep in mind before opening your Mac because unlike a standard PC it is not built to open by end user and indeed one may very easily void the warranty.

    1. Re:Mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up. Laptops shouldn't be opened except for manufacturer-supported upgrades.

    2. Re:Mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up. He's right, you know. You might void your warranty. Sound advice.

  12. Not for unexperienced users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Hey, this heatsink takes up loadsa room and it must really cut the airflow! There, problem solved" :)

  13. 12" Powebook noise level reduction by Kingpin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When my fan kicks in (playing a movie or similar), it sounds like a small jet. Anyone hear about ways to reduce the noise level of the fan?

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    1. Re:12" Powebook noise level reduction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      One of the guides there tells how to remove the fan

      you could do that, and not put it back in.

    2. Re:12" Powebook noise level reduction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
      Anyone hear about ways to reduce the noise level of the fan?

      First you get your small wire cutters.

      locate the red or black wire leading to the fan

      snip

      Problem solved.

    3. Re:12" Powebook noise level reduction by Too+many+errors,+bai · · Score: 1

      If heat is not a particular issue, you could apply a makeshift fan silencer. In the case of a grinding noise, check if the bearings are properly oiled.

    4. Re:12" Powebook noise level reduction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oh, that's easy. Just shove your universal Macintosh disk eject tool in there and the noise should stop immediately.

    5. Re:12" Powebook noise level reduction by Tirinal · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'd recommend setting the processor performance level to "reduced" in the options tab of the energy saver system preferences menu, which should cut your processor to roughly half its speed. For me, crippling the processor made my 12" PB run at 50C instead of 65C when playing games with no noticeable drop in performance. The real limitations of laptops are generally HDD speed and RAM, so you may find that in most situations you don't even notice the reduction. I watched most of the Two Towers EE on last night and the fan didn't kick in once.

      Alternatively, you could get a stand or something. But that kind of defeats the purpose of having a 12" PB.

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    6. Re:12" Powebook noise level reduction by burns210 · · Score: 1

      how did you measure the change from 65C to 50C? Is there a monitoring tool in MacOS?

    7. Re:12" Powebook noise level reduction by Tirinal · · Score: 1

      It's called Temperature Monitor and is freeware. Do a google search.

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    8. Re:12" Powebook noise level reduction by nadadogg · · Score: 1

      Here's a link for the lazy folks who wanna keep track of temps.

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  14. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by zaxios · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Those who want to upgrade or repair their Macs don't understand what liberal Apple is - a company that manufactures computers whose workings are impenetrable and hidden (i.e. information hiding), like parts themselves are in other PCs.

    That's a good point, even though your other sentence is a little weird. It also makes me wonder what enthusiasts (like those here on Slashdot) see in Apple. Sure, OS X is a great OS, but Macs as hardware disempower the hobbyist compared to equivalent devices. Same goes for the iPod, whose HDD is deliberately inconvenient to move files from. While their quality is unquestionable, Apple's products perform functions not only without the user needing to understand how they work but where understanding how they work does not extend the user any extra power. That might be considered very good design, but to geeks, who get a kick out of the power of knowing how things work, you wouldn't think it would be so attractive.

  15. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While their quality is unquestionable, Apple's products perform functions not only without the user needing to understand how they work but where understanding how they work does not extend the user any extra power.

    I've had my oft-mentioned iBook for a bit over six months now; it is quite probably the best computer I've ever had. Yes, it's got very little upgrade potential (memory's already at 640MB, and I don't need wireless networking) but I really don't mind.

    In a way, it's like there isn't a computer there at all, just MacOS X in a handy carrying case. It just works. The battery last absolutely ages, so I'm not worrying about when it's about to run out; it's incredibly quiet, so I can work without a constant computer whir and hum; all the hardware features I need are built in, so I'm not messing around with external cards or devices, fighting with incompatible devices...

    I can forget there's a computer there, and get on working with the software.

    People claim that Apple is a hardware company, I think I'd disagree. with MacOS X, they're a software company - except the software has a solid, physical presence in the real world. :-)

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  16. You are missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The noice level is reduced already. You see; it only kicks in when you play a movie or similar.

  17. NO2 is nitrogen dioxide; nitrogen is N2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    would be awesome to cool one's computer with liquefied smog though

    1. Re:NO2 is nitrogen dioxide; nitrogen is N2 by cyberfunk2 · · Score: 1

      Well... not everyone can be a chemist. Good catch.

  18. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by hai.uchida · · Score: 1

    While their quality is unquestionable, Apple's products perform functions not only without the user needing to understand how they work but where understanding how they work does not extend the user any extra power. That might be considered very good design, but to geeks, who get a kick out of the power of knowing how things work, you wouldn't think it would be so attractive.

    Well... That's not entirely true. The Powermacs are very easy for the average user to pop open and muck around with, even the new G5's.

    The laptops... That's another story, at least since the end of the black plastic models.

    --
    my password is private, but unchanged.
  19. iBook G4 upgrades? by Catullus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I bought an iBook G4 fairly recently, and I'd like to upgrade the hard disk. I note that my laptop isn't included in the list on pbfixit.com. Does anyone know if it's feasible to do home upgrades on a recent-model iBook? Or if not, is there anywhere (in the UK) that will do it for me? :)

    1. Re:iBook G4 upgrades? by WiseWeasel · · Score: 1

      Sure it is (possible to do it at home). Just open the sucker up and go for it. It's really not hard to figure out. Make sure you have a torx screw driver set for the HD screws. Just make sure you group the screws you take out by type and location so you don't misplace any. It looks like the screws to get inside the case are under the feet. Get info on how to remove the feet here (foot and socket instructions).

      --
      "I like systems, their application excepted", George Sand (French)
    2. Re:iBook G4 upgrades? by SkipRosebaugh · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's pirated copies of the official Apple service manuals floating around on p2p networks, but if you're extremely careful and have a good memory, you shouldn't need them. You'll need a Torx T8 screwdriver, a Phillips #0, and a flathead (not used for screws, but it's very helpful in cracking the case open).

      IIRC, you need to start by removing the memory shield under the keyboard and any memory that may be in there, and then removing the keyboard itself. You'll have to take off the bottom case (this is where the flathead is helpful. also, there's a few tiny things you can break around the area of the pulsating sleep lamp, so be careful), what they call the "bottom shield" - a metal shield separating the case from the mobo, the top case, and, iirc, the top shield. Have fun!

    3. Re:iBook G4 upgrades? by Catullus · · Score: 1

      Thanks (to both of the people that replied). I'll give it a go sometime that I'm feeling brave. Removing the feet should prove easy - one of mine's fallen out and gotten lost already, grrr...

    4. Re:iBook G4 upgrades? by easter1916 · · Score: 1

      If it's under warranty, call Apple and they'll send you a feet replacement kit. Called at 1PM and it was on my doorstep when I got home from work the next day... a little box containing eight feet and a small tube of crazy glue (loctite).

  20. The BEST BUY and COMPUSA answer to the problem. by deathcow · · Score: 4, Funny

    HEY, Let me tell you about our extended in-store laptop warranties! Did you know you'll need to pay the shipping yourself if you need to have it repaired? And it can take weeks!

    What?? You decline? WOW, NOBODY has EVER declined this before. Are you sure? Can you tell me why you've declined? Geeze, let me tell you about all the risks of turning this down.

    (other floor guy walks up)
    Hey, this guys buying this laptop without the extended warranty. (Glances exchanged.) No way! Yep. Does he know about all the things that could happen if something breaks. Yep, I told him but he says he doesn't want it. Wow, I don't know if anyone has ever declined it before.

    (trying to get to check out with laptop in escort, manager walks up.)
    Hey, Bob told me you are passing on the extended warranty. This is a very expensive items so there are a few things we have to cover before you buy it. Do you know if it breaks you'll have to cover all shipping expenses to and from the service center? That laptop has lithium batteries so there are hazardous shipping charges involved. It can take weeks to get it repaired. It's very odd for someone to turn down the extended warranties. Are you sure? Well, I have to inform you of all the potential risks of buying without the extended warranty.

    1. Re:The BEST BUY and COMPUSA answer to the problem. by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Hey, Bob told me you are passing on the extended warranty. This is a very expensive items so there are a few things we have to cover before you buy it. Do you know if it breaks you'll have to cover all shipping expenses to and from the service center? That laptop has lithium batteries so there are hazardous shipping charges involved. It can take weeks to get it repaired. It's very odd for someone to turn down the extended warranties. Are you sure? Well, I have to inform you of all the potential risks of buying without the extended warranty."

      (talking to salesdroid)

      Well, I realize it is helpful, but I'm already spending 2000$ on this laptop, $350 for a warranty is out of my budget...

      (salsedroid)

      Well, I can knock $150 off of the laptop,,

      (me)
      deal...

      (1 week later)
      I'd like to return this warranty ...

      (them(

      Ok, we've credited $360 to your account...

      Motto:

      Use the force. Like...

      --
      I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
    2. Re:The BEST BUY and COMPUSA answer to the problem. by ScuzzMonkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      (me, to salesguy and his manager)

      If this thing is such a piece of crap that it breaks so often that you guys think the extended warranty is going to be a good deal, I'll pass. Can you direct me to the location of your nearest competitor, please?

      --
      No relation to Happy Monkey
  21. What about ol-skool tiBooks? by torpor · · Score: 2, Interesting


    I've replaced the case on my aging rev-a 400mhz (hacked to 500) tiBook .. you know, the one with the Firewire bug, heat problems, etc.

    You 'new-skool' alBook (HATE that moniker, and the new PB case) don't know how good you got it .. replacing the case on the orginal tiBook without knowing what you're doing is like gutting a dolphin and expecting it to do backflips and beg for fish immediately post-op .. *not* for the faint of heart!

    I keep 'wanting' to upgrade (as if I could afford it) to a new powerbook, but then I keep 'wanting' some x86-mfr to take the design bait and lure me back to cheap territory with even sexier case specs, too ..

    --
    ; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
    1. Re:What about ol-skool tiBooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "you know, the one with the Firewire bug"

      What Firewire bug? I have tibook 500, but I haven't noticed any problems with FW.

    2. Re:What about ol-skool tiBooks? by torpor · · Score: 2, Informative

      The rev-A powerbooks (400mhz) had a bug on the Firewire implementation that results in less-than-stellar sustained i/o performance .. it got fixed, fast, in the upgrades that came out folling the first tiBook, but us fast-adopters definitely scored a lemon.

      Just goes to show: never buy the first-generation "wow cool" product release ... always wait for the point release.

      --
      ; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
  22. Mod parent up (Was: Re:Mod parent up) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod parent up. He's definitely right that the parent should be modded up.

    1. Re:Mod parent up (Was: Re:Mod parent up) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod children down. There, that should put a stop to it.

  23. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by zaxios · · Score: 1

    just MacOS X in a handy carrying case. It just works...People claim that Apple is a hardware company, I think I'd disagree. with MacOS X, they're a software company - except the software has a solid, physical presence in the real world

    And that's what I'm talking about. It's a consumer device, totally functional (that is, no compatibility issues) as it is. If you just want to use its software, Apple is effective. My comment is that both Apple's skillful design and closed-up hardware ensure that that hardware geeks' understanding of it doesn't get them any more functionality, and that because of its consumer-focus Apple's popularity among the tech community is somewhat surprising. But I guess different parts of the tech community want different things from their PCs. If we look at it from the perspective of people who use their Macs purely for software, as you say, then it makes perfect sense. And if we look at it from the perspective of the digital content makers, it makes perfect sense. I think it's interesting to observe how among Slashdotters focus resides in different areas: technology itself and technology's use. Apple wins in the latter.

  24. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by michaeldot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It also makes me wonder what enthusiasts (like those here on Slashdot) see in Apple [equipment].

    It's well designed, stylistically pleasing, functional and high performing.

    Sure, OS X is a great OS, but Macs as hardware disempower the hobbyist compared to equivalent devices.

    Mainly if you're a hobbyist modder who goes in for xenon lights on their fans. There's nothing wrong with doing so but is everyone meant to hobby around building their computers from parts?

    I speak from experience when I say some hobbyists like to (eventually) spend time doing stuff other than bolting together cases, power supplys, and mainboards, and then ducting cables through paths to miss the fans, then spend a few days monitoring temperatures to make sure they've got it right.

    I've built a few PCs in my time but am now a bit bored with it all and prefer instead to get quality machines straight from the factory floor instead of the work room, and devote the time saved to actually working on the machine rather than for it.

    But anyway there's tons of modding going on in the Mac world - look at the cult of "Cube modding" which has seen 1.x GHz chips put into Cubes that only ever went up 500 MHz when Apple sold them.

    Same goes for the iPod, whose HDD is deliberately inconvenient to move files from.

    Doesn't make sense - FireWire mode is a breeze. Unless you're talking about ripping out the CF drive to use in a digital camera. Er, so?

    While their quality is unquestionable, Apple's products perform functions not only without the user needing to understand how they work but where understanding how they work does not extend the user any extra power.

    Yes, it does. I put a 10,000 rpm SATA Raptor drive in a mirrored door PowerMac G4 that was only ever designed for IDE drives, and by doing so cut many intensive disk operations times in half. My understanding of SATA-to-IDE interfacing extended directly to extra power, even on a Mac.

    That might be considered very good design, but to geeks, who get a kick out of the power of knowing how things work, you wouldn't think it would be so attractive.

    A lot of geeks also appreciate good design, and knowing how difficult it can be to come up with one, appreciate it even more.

  25. Fix defective out-of-warranty parts by cmang · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is quite cool.. when I bought my clamshell iBook (used) years ago, it was very cheap because of a damaged DC-in power jack. The soldering had come loose on the inside, and you have to apply pressure to the plug to make it charge (I use rubber bands to charge it - very ghetto). Apple wanted hundreds of dollars to fix the jack, as the computer was out of warranty when I obtained it.

    Rubber-banding it all this time, I'd been planning on a hack to solve the jack problem - but this site has complete instructions for replacing the DC-in jack, as well as where to buy a new jack! Perfect.

  26. Wow.. that's interesting.. by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 0

    I'm surprised that Apple stuff are not bobby trapped to explode when an unauthorised person opens it.

    Serious!

    Let's look at say, the iPod.

    It is darned service unfriendly. No matter how good you are, you will leave a few little marks on that case when you open it.

    Then when you finally open it, suppose say the iPod's hard drive died. Short of getting a special hard drive from Apple (the drives they use are actually from Toshiba, but normal OEM drives do not work), there is no way you can fix it.

    Apple stuff are darned unfriendly man! The UI is all a guise for its underlying unfriendliness!! :((

    1. Re:Wow.. that's interesting.. by nuggetman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is darned service unfriendly. No matter how good you are, you will leave a few little marks on that case when you open it.


      Odds are your discman, although cheaper, is service unfriendly. When was the last time you replaced a part in a discman?

      Now when was the last time you replaced a part in your laptop? Probably slightly less frequently than your desktop, and slightly more frequently than your discman/ipod.

      Some products are designed to be serviced - some to be replaced

      --
      ...and that's all there is to it.
    2. Re:Wow.. that's interesting.. by igrp · · Score: 3, Insightful
      That's all good and true. And I have to admit you're entirely right.

      The reason people get upset over stuff like this is simple though: you didn't pay $400 for that discman.

      If it breaks, I'll just toss it and get myself a new one for $30 at Walmart. You just expect cheap CEs to have a very limited lifespan. No biggie, they're cheap. That's why you bought them in the first place. Having to replace them every once in a while is no surprise.

      If you're buying an iPod though (and I absolutely love mine), you're not just buying any ole MP3 player. You're buying a design, an image and I'd even say, in a way, you're buying an experience. The big deal isn't $400 (which is a lot of dough to many people, but - in comparision to other CE items (big screen TVs, good stereo equipment, etc) - isn't really all that much money).

      You just expect more for those $400. Afterall, you're not buying some $250 clone, you're getting the original, the real deal. And if you pay extra for it, you just want it to work.

      If my the $200 TV you keep in your kitchen breaks, you probably won't even think about getting it fixed. You'll just replace it. If your $10k+ big screen projector breaks, you'd probably be really pissed if the dealership you bought it from told you to "just buy a new one" (and rightfully so).

      Again, I'm not disagreeing. Just offering some perspective.

    3. Re:Wow.. that's interesting.. by coolgeek · · Score: 1

      You have to use the non-cardbus version of the drive.

      --

      cat /dev/null >sig
  27. Color by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I want my next iBook to be matte black, white is so unsuitable for a geek like me.

    1. Re:Color by cyberfunk2 · · Score: 1

      You can actually fix that very quickly:

      See the following link:

      http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/ibook_mods/ib oo k_paint_mod.html

  28. One Piece of Advice by Templar · · Score: 4, Informative
    I recently disassembled my wife's 12" PB to extract a cup of coffee that she deposited in it. Nothing was particularly tricky, although it was very time consuming, but I followed the advice of a friend, and I'm really glad I did --

    Use an ice cube tray (or two) for all of the screws, separating them by size, and draw detailed charts and notes as to where each one came from.

    If you don't do this, you won't get it back together. Good luck!

    1. Re:One Piece of Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Even better: use double-sided tape to keep the screws in place on your charts and notes.
      Worked great for me, i only had two screws left when i finished reassmebling my iBook.

    2. Re:One Piece of Advice by Pope · · Score: 1

      That's the profit!

      --
      It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
  29. nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excellent, that should apply to all the parent posts too, since they're so childish...

  30. TiPaint by base3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Before buying from TiPaint, you might have a look at Google Groups. There have been a number of a complaints ranging from poor product to non-delivery.

    --
    One CPU cycle wasted on digital restrictions management is ONE TOO MANY.
  31. Comments on Opening a 15" AlBook by Aetrix · · Score: 4, Informative

    I recently opened up my AlBook (15") to hopefully to upgrade from a combo drive to a super drive. Lemmie tell you - opening up this case is HARD! Undoing all of the right screws is nothing, but removing the top deck with those tabs - It's murder. I scratched the heck out of my computer and even when I took it to my Apple-Certified technicians (Yes, they claim there's a special tool for unclipping those little metal tabs.) they scratched the heck out of my computer and bent the bit of metal above the CD slot.

    If anyone knows more details about a magic tool to help "pop the top" on an AlBook - Please, let the world know about it. Otherwise, I strongly recommend you get a thin plastic-coated pry bar for popping those tabs, and DON'T use a lot of force.

    --

    "One touch of Darwin makes the whole world kin." George Bernard Shaw
    1. Re:Comments on Opening a 15" AlBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You're supposed to get in there from the bottom... it's really not hard.

    2. Re:Comments on Opening a 15" AlBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      We are an Apple Service Specialist and as such can work on just about anything that Apple has ever made.

      AFAIK, there isn't a special tool to get that damn tab to pop the Service Source take apart guides don't indicate that there is one either. Even harder is putting it back together.

      We took a long, sharp, pushpin and put a 90 degree bend on the last 1/4 " or so of it. Now we can reach in through the CD slot and hook onto the tabs with less cursing, swearing, and yelling.

      FWIW, we have a list of people at Apple (like "The guy who designed the 12" PB" and such) that we plan to punch in the face if we ever meet them.

    3. Re:Comments on Opening a 15" AlBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FWIW, we have a list of people at Apple (like "The guy who designed the 12" PB" and such) that we plan to punch in the face if we ever meet them.

      The same guy that made the screws impossible to pick up with a magnetized screwdriver? Deserves a kick in the groin.

  32. What a load... by WiseWeasel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's a load of crap. Macs have standard parts just like any other PC. Everything is pretty much as upgradable as possible (except for iMacs and eMacs, which are somewhat limited, unless you're really dedicated). I've always mucked around inside my PowerMacs and PowerBooks, and purchased standard high-quality PC parts, and they've pretty much all been a joy to work inside of. The cases are thoughtfully laid out (since the days of the infamous Performa line), and upgrades of all kinds are about as easy as they can be. The drives are ATA, RAM is standard DDR, the cards are PCI or AGP, the CPU is on a ZIF socket in most cases (in the PowerMacs), power supply is standard, etc., etc. Apart from the initial building of the machine, Macs are ideal for tinkering, thanks to very good case design and layout.

    Then there's the OS. Since it's POSIX-compliant (all except in name thanks to licensing issues), and all the config files are either text or XML, there's a whole world of tinkering to be done. This includes compiling your own nix software, building apps in XCode (free and included with all Macs), hacks aplenty, etc. This is in addition to all the main commercial titles available. It's really a tinkerer's nirvana; one where you aren't limited by anything, and yet can still forget all that and just be productive. It's amazing how liberating an experience it is to use hardware and software that were crafted with care and thoughtfulness. Macs are not about dumbing down, but about excellent design and efficiency, as well as quality. You can still muck around the internals to heart's content, but you'll find you're too busy getting stuff done, and playing in OS X. In short, it's the perfect system for geeks who don't feel they have to prove themselves with completely custom setups and a dremel tool.

    --
    "I like systems, their application excepted", George Sand (French)
    1. Re:What a load... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last PowerMac with a ZIF socket CPU was the PCI graphics G4, and that was really a B&W G3 with a G4 chip in it. So the total ZIF Macs are the Beige G3, the B&W G3, and the PCI G4. Only 3 Macs ever. (And I own 2.5 of them, a Beige G3, and a B&W G3 with a G4 ZIF pull in it.)

      Apple hasn't made a ZIF socket Mac in 4 or 5 years now.

    2. Re:What a load... by WiseWeasel · · Score: 1

      OK, it seems ZIF isn't in use anymore, but you can still get CPU upgrades for more recent Macs, and Sonnet is currently working on CPU upgrades for G5s.

      --
      "I like systems, their application excepted", George Sand (French)
  33. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you wish to compare equivalent devices then you really need to compare how Apple acts to how Dell or IBM acts and it becomes pretty obvious from such a comparison that all companies "disempower" the hobbyist culture (we are talking about laptops here, dude). And, laptops are devices which are just not meant to be taken apart. I mean it's a silly arguement since its impossible to take apart any laptop from any manufactor and even more so if you what to upgrade the CPU or graphics card.

    However, If you extend the comparison to desktop systems, Then I think your will find that Apple goes out of there way to allow people to play with their hardware (apart from changing the CPU), For example Power PCs are incredably easy to work on since they have doors on them, and almost any component of the new IMAC can be replaced. Its just that tragically no one does. Probally because third party support is disgusting, espcially if you've ever tried to upgrade your graphics card (hint; it involves bending over) - but how can Apple be blamed for that?

    Sadly, I don't know whats so great about having an enthusist hardware culture nowadays. Since the one on the PC side seems to have degenerated into some lame otaku (SP?) scene where dudes spend all there time and money riceing up their boxen so they can have pissing contests with benchmarks. Alot, like those dudes you see who spend all there time adding neon lights and Type R stickers to their Honda's, usually in a desperate attempt to be individual which only ever succeeds in making them look like every other sad sack out to do the same thing. Only sadder.

    The reason I say this is that hardware is getting to the point where its fast enough. Where harddisks from the POV of your average person are infinant. Nowday's you can upgrade your PC and all you can have to show for it are some slightly bigger numbers in your about box. This extends to the gaming scene who only ever seem interested in playing counterstrike. Playing around with hardware seems to be becoming illreleviant. Be honest, there has not been a reason for anyone to upgrade their computer for the last five years. Doom3 maybe a good game but its not worth buying a new computer for.

    I used to hold the view that the otaku were the one driving technology, That it was because of them that I could buy last years computer cheap, used. But recently I found, from slashdot, that a middle of the road graphics card will set you back $200 - this is just insane. These guys may drive technology, but it seems to me they are also the ones making prices leet. IMHO.

    Also being a geek does not mean being on some power trip because to have to constantly tune your hardware. Most of us get quite enough of that at work, Having to reflash your bios to install a new DVD drive should never have to be a part of the computer experience. And my feelings about having to contend with issues about drivers or irq conflicts are not those making me feel part of some cool underground hobby scene. Only retards could possibly think like that. Computers are tools for doing stuff and the time I have to spend making stuff work is time I'm not doing stuff. Anything else is bullshit.
    I'm a geek becasue of my blog review of Hikaru no Go not because I know the timing of my ram or the temp my CPU is running at.

    Personally, You kinda get driven to using Mac's because of how sad things are getting in relation to PC's and because it gets depressing waiting for linux to develop into a decent desktop system.

    BTW, I can't understand the issue you seem to be having with the IPOD. WTF you just plug it in and it acts as a regular firewire drive - it is not inconveient at all. Ofcourse if you mean copying MP3's Apple have to do this overwise they will have the arse sued off them by the RIAA. However its trivial to get programs which allow you to do this anyway so whats your prob?

  34. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by Kyro · · Score: 1

    Yes, it does. I put a 10,000 rpm SATA Raptor drive in a mirrored door PowerMac G4 that was only ever designed for IDE drives, and by doing so cut many intensive disk operations times in half. My understanding of SATA-to-IDE interfacing extended directly to extra power, even on a Mac.

    I've been thinking about getting a SATA drive for my MDD as it's almost out of space. Would you be able to tell me which SATA controller you used?
    Thanks!

    --
    save the GNUs!
  35. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by rdc_uk · · Score: 1

    "It also makes me wonder what enthusiasts (like those here on Slashdot) see in Apple."

    Simple; their stuff does its job, its job being simple reliable function. Requiring 0 fettling.

    Leaving me free to expend my fettling time on things that need it, and things that I don't need constantly working (i.e. not in mid-fettle limbo)

    Wintel/WinAMD cannot do this; I spend too long hunting spyware/virus scanning/updating.

    Linux cannot do this; I have to work out how to do too much (i.e. I want video drivers; recompile kernel - doh!)

    For me, apple is a return t the happy, happy days of the Amiga - a machine that comes in a box, and once out of the box, simply WORKS.

    I miss my Amiga :(

  36. Oops, no mention of CPU thermal transfer tape need by ankhank · · Score: 5, Informative

    In the G3 Pismo guide, only one I checked, they tell you how to pull the heatsink OFF, make no mention of the quiet little popping noise you'll hear when you do (it's the double-sticky thermal transfer tape, a tiny little rectangle on top of the CPU that fails when the heatsink is moved even slightly).

    And they say to replace the heatsink. just do the reverse.

    Well, NO. Apple made it very easy to break the contact between CPU and heatsink, even accidentally, and once that's impaired overheating is going to become a problem.

    Look for posts in MacFixit forums, about G3s, Powerlogix, heatsinks, thermal transfer -- best advice I've seen has been put together by a fellow named Bruce Miller.

  37. LNO2? by Rich+Klein · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What's LNO2? Liquid Nitrogen Dioxide? Surely you mean liquid nitrogen, or LN2!

    --
    -Rich
  38. Quietness by pab89 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I like to keep my Powerbook silent and cool by placing it in a medium-sized ATX tower. Then I hook up the display to my CRT monitor which I place on my desk. Finally I attach an external mouse and keyboard and it's ready to roll!

  39. third party... by null-sRc · · Score: 2, Informative

    my laptop came with a 3 year limited warrenty...

    the laptop cost $2k canadian.

    i was a little worried about theft and if i dropped it since those weren't covered.

    so i got third party insurance from an insurance company that covers EVERYTHING for about $100 one time payment. (lasts about 2 years)

    much cheaper than most extended warranties :)

    --
    -judging another only defines yourself
  40. I just used these last week. by wheezl · · Score: 1

    I had to replace a dead optical drive in my G4 12". If I had only followed the recommendation to tape the screws to the boxes on the screw guide it would have gone a bit faster and I wouldn't have 3 screws left over :)

    These fixit guides greatly simplified and illuminated the process.

    Not that it is hard to generally take things apart and put them back together, but when you are trying to make a decision on wether to pry something up or not... it is nice to know someone has gone through the trouble of telling you how to do such things without breaking them.

    Next up I replace the hard drive... which thankfully won't be as hard as the frelling optical drive.

    --
    -- oh.... so..... sleeeeeepy.
  41. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > How the fuck can I be modded troll for spreading TRUTH?

    That's not the reason. You get modded down for being an ASSHOLE.

  42. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by easter1916 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're being modded down for being a bollocks. Go back to your Young Republicans circlejerk.

  43. DVD burner upgrade by O · · Score: 1

    So, anyone find a faster (8x +), dual format (DVD +/-), and hopefully dual layer DVD burner that will fit in a PowerBook? I love my SuperDrive, but being able to only use DVD-Rs and only at 2x is kind of a drag when a full-size DVD burner that costs less than $100 can do +/- at 8x or higher.

    --

    1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21 -- Mathematics is the Language of Nature.
    1. Re:DVD burner upgrade by hai.uchida · · Score: 1

      Do you really need a faster drive "on the go?" External firewire and USB 2.0 drives are much faster, much cheaper and more likely to have +/- RW support... And you can swap it between computers.

      --
      my password is private, but unchanged.
    2. Re:DVD burner upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My 17" 1.5 has the following specs listed in the 10.4 pre-release (the functions may get unlocked via software)

      MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-825:

      Firmware Revision: DAM5
      Interconnect: ATAPI
      Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported)
      Cache: 2048 KB
      Reads DVD: Yes
      CD-Write: -R, -RW
      DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW
      Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
      Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
      Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO
      Media:
      Media Type: CD-ROM
      Blank: No
      Erasable: No
      Overwritable: No
      Appendable: No

  44. Not going to work. by bob+beta · · Score: 1

    I checked, and the hard drive in my PowerBook 165c is a 3-1/2" SCSI drive.

    So much for a hard drive upgrade. Good luck finding a SCSI laptop drive at any reasonable cost.

    I guess my PowerBook will just remain as it is.

    1. Re:Not going to work. by bob+beta · · Score: 1

      Oops, typo. It's a 2-1/2" SCSI drive.

      Rare as hens' teeth today.

    2. Re:Not going to work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just so you know, older Apple laptops had an IDE drive connected to an IDE-SCSI bridge (at least that's how my 180 was set up)

    3. Re:Not going to work. by bob+beta · · Score: 1

      The 165c has a SCSI drive. I already opened mine up and looked at the connector. The IDE drives I have laying around won't plug in.

      It's okay, tho. The kind of MacOS that runs on a 68030 with 4 megs of RAM doesn't need that big a hard drive. It's a great machine within it's limits.

  45. In the butt? by trudyscousin · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Do you normally take apart your laptop computer with your ass cheeks?

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  46. wow... by WiseWeasel · · Score: 1

    Wow, no kidding... That would have saved me some time... How fiendish of them to have hidden away those instructions in the user's manual, of all places.

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  47. MOD PARENT UP !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very good point. Parent should be modded up.

    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree.

  48. err, thing = think... N/T by WiseWeasel · · Score: 1

    minor correction there... woops.

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  49. Out of stock: iBook G3 12" Combo Drive by HSpirit · · Score: 1

    It's not the fastest laptop on the planet, but a Combo (DVD/CD-RW) drive is about the only thing I miss on my circa. end-of-2001 iBook G3 600 MHz (I've upgraded it with additional RAM and an Airport card.

    Does anyone know if there are other suppliers of Combo Drives for the G3 iBooks? Australian suppliers would be preferred, but not essential.

  50. Another stubborn apple thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're wrong about the one button mouse and they're wrong to stick with DVD-R's.

    At a minimum, the drive should be DVD+-RW.

    But I guess paying a premium from apple doesn't get you the latest tech.

    Now I just have to wait until some apple fanboy tells me that just supporting DVD-R is less confusing for users. Idiots.

  51. Screw you! by Performaman · · Score: 0

    Screw guide, ha ha. Not like any Slashdotter would need it. :P

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  52. No, it's a 2-1/2" SCSI, antique, findable though by ankhank · · Score: 1

    If nothing else turns up let me know and I'll go have a look in the boneyard, er, Powerbook Rest Home Closet Annex in the backyard shed. Any 1xx Powerbook except the PB150 has a 2-1/2" SCSI, they're interchangeable. Look around for an old one.

    Or find a PB150 -- mine has a 2-GB drive in it, direct swap since the 150 used the now common IDE hard drive instead of a SCSI.

  53. xlr8yourmac.com / Databases / Drives -- find out by ankhank · · Score: 1

    Check the drives database at www.xlr8yourmac.com -- search for anyone who's upgraded your model or related Macs and see what they had to do to make another model work. For a simple search enter only "OS X 10.4" -- that'll pick up a recent report on success with a Matshita/Panasonic combo model that works native, and newegg.com has it for under $80 right now.

  54. Perfect Timing by John2583 · · Score: 1

    My new 40 GB IBM/Hitachi 7200 RPM 2.5 inch hdd just came in this week. I'm upgrading my G3 iBook(http://john.brier.name/gallery/ibook) which had its 20 GB hdd die over summer. I opened up my iBook previously to try and fix it when the display started flickering and going off. Turns out the motherboard/logicboard and reed switch cable were bad. This problem occured about 1.5 yrs after I bought the computer. Apple wouldn't initially refund the price of the repair after I payed for it out of pocket when they first started the iBook iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program (http://www.apple.com/support/ibook/faq/). After broadening the iBooks it covered twice I was finally covered for cost of repair. I got my check from Apple a while ago. $402.11. I'm not sure I'll ever buy another Apple computer after the way they treated me on the phones. I had a superviser tell me that they couldn't cover the repairs when it wasn't initially covered because "Power book logic boards fail regularly, but we can't reimburse the price of those repairs if they're out of warranty just because." or something to that effect. She insisted that my problem which matched the symptoms described exactly on the program web page were not related to the problematic iBooks that were covered under the plan.

    terrible.

    Anyway I'll be glad to have it working again.

  55. More Disassemblies of Laptops, PDAs, Cell Phones.. by wehe · · Score: 2, Informative

    Besides instructions on how to upgrade and repair Apple notebooks, at TuxMobil there are disassembly guides for laptops and notebooks, dissection pictures of PDAs and handhelds, take apart manuals for mobile (cell phones), as well as images from the inside of mobile media players. Guides on how to maintain other mobile electronic gadgets will follow.

  56. Apple Laptop Keyboards Unsuitable for Unix Users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple laptops are effectively unusable for unix users.

    I am a long-time Unix user. That means I need to have the Ctrl key to the left of the A key. This is a genuine need, not merely a want; it is based upon ergonomics. The Ctrl key is heavily used in unix, and it must be easily accessable. It cannot be off in the lower left corner of the keyboard where it is difficult to get at, and where it distorts the position of your left hand such that you can't easily type other keys while holding the Ctrl key down.

    Apple desktop keyboards are now all USB. They are all OK. The CapsLock key can be re-mapped into a Ctrl key.

    Unfortunately, even in this modern age, all Apple laptops have built-in ADB keyboards. The ADB keyboard is broken-by-design. It is, in general, not possible to remap the CapsLock key into a Ctrl key.

    There are some exceptions, but they are horrible kludges. They are horrible kludges because the original design of the ADB keyboard was a horrible kludge. The correct solution would be for Apple to re-design their laptop motherboards to use built-in USB keyboards. This hasn't happened yet. If you run Linux, use Debian's solution. For Mac OS X users, uControl works. There are no solutions (that I know of) for either NetBSD or OpenBSD. Please note once again that the "solutions" above are in fact kludges, because of the original bad design of the ADB keyboard.

    Apple provides a technical note on how to remap the keyboard, but provides no solution to the hardware problems caused by the design of the ADB keyboard. This tech note helps foreign language users, but does nothing for the CapsLock/Ctrl problem.

    Apple is (currently) ignoring Unix users! This is not merely speculation on my part. In an on-going email exchange I am having with an Apple employee (whom I won't name) in their marketing department, the Apple marketing person directly stated to me that Apple was catering to their historic Mac customers, and is purposely ignoring the Unix market. He also claimed that Apple would soon start paying more attention to the Unix market. I won't hold my breath. Apple has been ignoring Unix users for more than 13 years. I expect that trend to continue. (Also note that my Apple contact indicated that Macs would never ship with a 3-button mouse, even though Apple intended to port almost all X-window software and deliver it either on a CD/DVD or installed directly on each Mac's hard drive. How Unix friendly is a 1-button mouse with X programs that often require 3 buttons?)

    Apple has now lost two opportunities to sell me hardware. I really wanted an Apple laptop for their superior battery life, and for the PowerPC with Altivec CPU. (The Altivec is vastly superior to the x86 line for DSP.) Because I can't live with the broken-by-design built-in ADB keyboard in all Apple laptops, Sony and IBM sold me laptops instead. If Apple fixes this problem, they will sell me a PowerBook next year; if they don't, I'll still be running OpenBSD on x86 hardware, and wishing I could use a Mac.

  57. This guide is great but could add ome thing by amichalo · · Score: 1

    The biggest thing I think is missing is....

    AIRPORT ANTENA UPGRADE!!!

    The biggest issue I have with my "slow" 400 Mhz G4 TiBook, (Generation 1 celebrating it's 4 year birthday in January) is not the graphics or the CPU, it's the 802.11b range. With a high-gain antena upgrade to the base station, it is better, but how about some upgrade to the laptop antena too!

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  58. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by wheezl · · Score: 1

    I don't really understand your point. I find Apple hardware to be generally easy to work on in comparrison to equivalent hardware. Powerbooks are a bitch to work on because laptops are a bitch to work on. I haven't disassembled anything other than an iPod but I imagine other small consumer media devices are equally painful. I can't even comprehend what you mean by saying that the iPod drive is inconvenient to move files from... it fuctions like any other firewire drive. You'll also find that many applications do not have obvious extra features with every last thing you can do listed in pull down menus. Many of the extra functions are lurking there for when you are ready for them. At the OS level quite a few spiffy things are done on the command line or by editing conf files...etc..

    Open the freaking terminal for crying out loud! :)

    I have to wonder if you have ever spent any time using a Mac other then poking at it in CompUSA :)

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  59. Re:I can't help but object to Apple's culture by jcr · · Score: 1

    Dude, I'm a hard-core libertarian, and I work at Apple. Your conspiracy fantasy is rather laughable.

    Apple's design goals for the powerbook and iBook lines are to make it as powerful as possible, in as thin an enclosure as possible, weighing as little as possible, etc. If the main goal of our design was to be trivial for any user to dismantle it, we could just make the powerbooks three inches thick, and hold everything together with those screws we use to hold the Xserves in the rack.

    As for hiding information, that's just not the case. Have a look at the developer's notes at developer.apple.com.

    We do have an interest in seeing to it that repairs are performed by people who know what they're doing, which is why we offer certifications in apple laptop repair, and only sell replacement parts to people who've passed the tests. We're certainly not limiting the number of people who can get those certs.

    -jcr

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  60. Screw Loose by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

    Different methods will work for different people - my prefered method when working on a new model would be:

    1. Make sure you have plenty of clear flat space - preferably 3-4 times the footprint of the device your disassembling.

    2. As you remove screws from the device place them relative to the component you are removing - so if I'm going to take the base off, I will put if above where I'm working with the screws around where I will be putting the base, with the top left screw next the top left corner, etc... This is far easier to show than it is to describe.

    When you go to reassemble the device, you know which screws go with which part.

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    Designer, Gamer, Macgrrl in an XP World