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Cartoon Network's 1st Original 'Toonami' Series

Rick Ellis writes "Sunday at the 2005 Tokyo Anime Fair in Japan, Cartoon Network unveiled the highly anticipated new series, IGPX. It's a co-production with Production I.G. and Bandai Entertainment and will be the Cartoon Network's first original 'Toonami' series."

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  1. Hope for some new stuff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd love to personally see Naruto on Toonami. Nice to see CN is diversifying though. Production IG has been involved with lots of anime intros for video games like Xenogears.

    1. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by kliment · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, CN did license Naruto, so I guess your wish will be granted rather soon.

    2. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Yeah, then when the fansubbing stops, we'll have to wait 5+ seasons for new episodes :(

      At least they're not going to stop translating the manga...

    3. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by darkmayo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Considering that weekly fansubs and scanlations of Naruto are still being done (decent quality too) I doubt that they will be stopping anytime soon.

      Been buying the VIZ translation of Naruto, its been alright definately want to smack some of the translation decisions that were made (Byakugan being called Evil Eye... ) definately want to see how the subtitles of the anime go on the official DVDs before I start buying them.

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    4. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by Khaotix · · Score: 2, Interesting

      naruto on toonami is going to make me cry. I think that Anbu should have been contracted to write the official subs for the anime for a Region 1 dvd rls.

    5. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by LinuxTek · · Score: 1

      Your wish has been granted. Naruto will be part of the new Fall schedule. I just hope they don't mess around too much with the story, the dubbing, etc.

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    6. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i am happy its on cn but i hope the fan subbers dont stop doing thier great work! ill miss my Naruto thursdays if they stop. On the bright side i found the show Bleach which completely kicks ass.

    7. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by BigFire · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ahm, Byakugan is Evil Eye, literally and figuratively. Don't blame Viz translator when they did the job right.

    8. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Byakugan literally is 'White Eye' (As in the eye turns white when used, it can also mean pure, clear, etc as in seeing clear, etc... there's multiple meaning), I don't know where they get the evil from, although it might be one of the alternative meaning since I based this on reading... kanji.

    9. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by mako1138 · · Score: 1

      I can hardly stand watching Naruto in subbed form. I can't imagine it dubbed.

  2. Subbing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Toonami's one of the most popular "programs" on CN right now- what are the odds that we'll start to see things subbed, or at least competently dubbed?

    (First?)

    1. Re:Subbing? by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      fans have been asking CN to use the SAP (second audio program) for the original Japanese soundtrack for a while, but no luck yet

      when a network gets the broadcast rights to a dubbed program or movie (anime or foreign film, or anything), do they get the rights to the original soundtrack too?

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    2. Re:Subbing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem is that the FCC requires that if you use SAP for a second audio channel, that channel's closed caption track must be in the same language, meaning you could see it in english with english subtitles (if you call the misspelled crap in the CCs subtitles) or japanese with japanese subtitles.

    3. Re:Subbing? by the_mighty_$ · · Score: 0, Troll

      I haven't watched Cartoon Network in a while so I had no clue what "Toonami" was nor what "IGPX" was. (I wasn't "highly anticipating" it either).

      Shouldn't they at least have posted a link to the official website?

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    4. Re:Subbing? by fat+man+with+a+monke · · Score: 4, Informative

      Given the fact that series (Yu-Gi-Oh, Yu Yu Hakusho, Cardcaptor Sakura, DragonballZ) have shown that kids don't care about competent dubbing, I doubt Toonami will have too much of it. But comparing the [Adult Swim] anime to the subbed version, the dubs of many of the series they run have been very high quality.
      Fullmetal Alchemist, [Adult Swim]'s latest anime draw, has even appeared in its entirety, with no content dubbed out (at least, with the last episode comparison I read). Also given the fact that Toonami has been relegated to the late-afternoon Saturday block once a week, its popularity has gone down (at least in the communities I frequent). Right now, I think [Adult Swim] is the main anime draw for cartoon network, and will stay that way.
      By the way, Naruto is coming to Toonami. Which means it'll be shown probably once a week on Saturday. All 200+ episodes of it. That's over 4 years. And even if they do show it multiple times on Saturday, Cartoon Network will probably only buy it a couple seasons at a time, and just keep re-showing the first few until people get tired of it. That's what they did with DBZ and Yu Yu Hakusho Samurai Champloo is coming also coming to CN, on [AS].

    5. Re:Subbing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What dominion does the FCC have over their cable and satellite only stations?

    6. Re:Subbing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beats the [bleep] out of me, but for some [bleep]ing reason, all the [bleep]ing cable show I watch have [bleep]ing censored all the [bleep]ing swears. ([Bleep], Cartoon Network actually [bleep]ing removed "Jesus" out of "Sweat zombie Jesus!" in Futurama.)

      I remember watching the [bleep]ing roast of Jeff Foxworthy (what a [bleep]ing waste of time), with the CC on so I could understand some of the people with extremely [bleep]ing heavy accents, and they actually wrote "[bleep]" over all the [bleep]ing swears.

      It's all just [bleep]ing bull[bleep].

    7. Re:Subbing? by jandrese · · Score: 2, Informative

      Minor nit, Naruto in Japan is only up to episode 128 (and this is counting the hour long specials as 2 episodes each). While I don't doubt they could run to 200+ episodes, they have not done so yet. Many series get killed at fairly arbitrary times (if the storyline starts to suck and viewership goes down, the network WILL can a series; or if the creators start asking for too much money).

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    8. Re:Subbing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh... that has nothing to do with the FCC. All the FCC can do when it comes to cable broadcasts is fine a network for airing a commercial featuring a product from the same show that it's airing during and that's ONLY for kids shows (e.g. Comedy Central can air ads for South Park DVDs during South Park by Nickelodeon can't show an ad for a Spongebob action figure during the show). Save for that, ALL regulations for ALL cable channels are employed by the networks themself to appease advertisers. This is why Comedy Central will censor the words "shit" and "fuck" in South Park, yet they'll some times show the South Park movie completely uncut.

    9. Re:Subbing? by tuffy · · Score: 2, Interesting
      While I don't doubt they could run to 200+ episodes, they have not done so yet. Many series get killed at fairly arbitrary times

      A lot of manga-based shows like Inu-Yasha go off the air because they simply run out of manga to animate and so they end abruptly - occasionally getting finished off in OVAs. Some get made-for-TV endings (Midori no Hibi) and some get made-for-TV filler (Rurouni Kenshin). Since Naruto is due to run out of manga pretty soon, it could go either way.

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    10. Re:Subbing? by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      There have been some PBS progrms with Spanish on SAP. I never checked the CC but I would bet that it was still in English.

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    11. Re:Subbing? by oldbenway · · Score: 0

      You know, I was thinking of this last night. I own several ADV titles, all produced by different japanese studios. The crazy thing is, there is a lot of reusing of the same musical cues. There is one that I am getting entirely sick of, I couldn't name it, but it's used in FLCL, Azumaga Daioh, etc. Another "clue" to my guess that they DON'T is that in Azumaga Daioh, during a part in which they are supposed to be performing a traditional japanese dance, the music playing is "grab your partner" hoedown music (ADV is based in texas). I will DL a fan-subbed original rip from japanese TV to check this particular queue. I don't know if you know this, but a lot of american series lose the rights once things make it to DVD, i.e. on DVD the cues they had limited licenses to change to open or cheaper ones. There was a big article on thsi somewhere recently, if I can find the link I will post it, because this frustrates some people greatly.

    12. Re:Subbing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't there 2 CC channels on every transmission? Check your TV, it gives you a choice of CC channels. I bet the second one is used for SAP, but you can still choose the first one.

    13. Re:Subbing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, if you just watched your Azumanga DVD on the Japanese track (and Sweet Heaven, I can't imagine why anybody would choose to put up with the English dub unless they were functionally illiterate), you would notice that it's the same hoedown music. Western music is actually very popular in Japan, so it is conceivable that a High School might use a "hoedown" for their Sports Fest dance. Watching it with a friend who was a native of Japan, he didn't even blink at this scene.

      It's certainly less troublesome than the Manga's choice to turn Yukari's English into Spanish in order to make it clear that she was teaching a second language.

    14. Re:Subbing? by Golias · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The music in FLCL is performed by The Pillows, a Japanese garage band of little fame beyond their participation in the show. I'm sure there was no trouble securing the rights to all their materials for the US release. What musical cue are you talking about?

      The soundtrack for Azumanga Daioh is mostly assembled by a J-Pop "supergroup" called Oranges and Lemons. Again, the music was produced specificlly for the show, so it's hard to imagine there were many "rights" issues in exporting it.

      Any similarity between the two (and I'm very familar with both yet have no idea WTF you are talking about) is probably pure coincidence.

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    15. Re:Subbing? by oldbenway · · Score: 0

      FYI, WTF I am talking about are the cues, not the soundtracks. I think you could have figured this out by thinking a little more. And the pillows only do about 1/2 the music on the FLCL soundtrack, there is also a lot by many other groups (3 CDs worth), but it's good to know you can at least read liner notes. If you want specifics, there is a cue on episode 23 of azumanga daioh that is also heard on episode 4 of FLCL. It's orchestral, and it is not Oranges and Lemons, nor is it the Pillows. It's also not referenced in the credits, so I am pretty sure it's something ADV came up with to cover a rights-managed cue in the original.

    16. Re:Subbing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "the FCC requires that if you use SAP for a second audio channel, that channel's closed caption track must be in the same language"

      I see you are reading from the Big Load-a-Crap 15th home edition. I've only enough bill stock to get the handy pocket reference myself.

    17. Re:Subbing? by Golias · · Score: 1

      I'll check it out, but if you are talking about a brief instrumental "hit" from an orchestra track, it's a safe bet that different anime houses sometimes use public-domain foley tracks for stuff like that, as a cost-saving measure.

      Kind of like how you hear the "Wilhelm scream" in almost every Hollywood action movie, including all three LOTR movies, or old soap operas used the old "dun-dun-duuuuuuuun" music after one character confesses to sleeping with another character's husband or something.

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    18. Re:Subbing? by oldbenway · · Score: 0

      Hehe yeah... I would call this cue the wilhelm scream of anime, it's a frantic little piece, but I have heard it in excel saga, azumanga daioh (I know, same studio), flcl, many others. In FLCL it's when ninamori grows the curry-bun-spider thing out of her head and runs around the school. In A.D. it's year 3 sports fest during the relay race. I am going to try and find out what it is, just for S&G's.

    19. Re:Subbing? by DuckofDeath87 · · Score: 1

      I wonder if it applies to both CC "channels". There is a closed caption 1 and 2. I understand why CC has to be the same as SAP, so the deaf can read exactly what everyone else can hear.

      Anyway, I wonder if they could have CC1 Japanese and CC2 english? Does anyone know if that will work?

    20. Re:Subbing? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      how's that a problem? don't they have CC in japan?

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    21. Re:Subbing? by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 2, Funny
      The problem is that the FCC requires that if you use SAP for a second audio channel, that channel's closed caption track must be in the same language,

      Hmmm. (Turns on NYPD Blue.)
      (Turns on audio subcarrier. Spanish.)
      (Turns on CC. English.)

      (Turns on The Fairly Oddparents.)
      (Turns on audio subcarrier. English with blind narration.)
      (Turns on CC. English without blind narration. If there was blind narration on the CC, I'd be ready to smack someone.)

      Ooh, so if I was blind and deaf, I could still watch! No, wait....

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    22. Re:Subbing? by SamSim · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You wouldn't have to put the subtitles in the closed captions... just overlay them directly on the video being broadcast. Of course, this is a little unfair to the Japanese speakers who don't want to read the subs, just watch the show in their own language...

    23. Re:Subbing? by SamSim · · Score: 1

      Let me guess... you're a [Everything2|noder], right?

    24. Re:Subbing? by Alexei · · Score: 1

      SAP sends a different soundtrack but uses the same video, so that wouldn't work.

    25. Re:Subbing? by baka_vic · · Score: 1
      Since Naruto is due to run out of manga pretty soon, it could go either way.

      I suspect that we'll be in for some long-drawn out battle scene, not unlike that of the Hokage vs. Orochimaru battle at around episode 70+...I really hated that part...7+ episodes of pushing a sword around - bleh!

    26. Re:Subbing? by jandrese · · Score: 1

      You forgot the fourth option: They slow down the TV show to match the speed of the manga (Dragonball). I seriously hope the creators of Naruto aren't contemplating that path.

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  3. In other news.... by the_mighty_$ · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Nickelodeon is running a new show too. Who cares?

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    1. Re:In other news.... by R.Caley · · Score: 2, Funny

      Compared to a Hitachi press releas and some guy trying to get people to reqd his unfinished course-work, this is the high news of the day.

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    2. Re:In other news.... by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nickelodeon is running a new show too. Who cares?

      Perhaps Slashdot needs an "Anime" section, so people like you could filter such stories out completely, while those of us who can name the song used as the ringtone of Hoshino Aya's cellphone can still get our fix without bothering you.

      (BTW: It's "Beatiful Dreamer", which also happens to be used by Yuya's phone. Yes, I'm a huge nerd for knowing that. Yes, you are also a huge nerd if you know what show I'm talking about.)

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    3. Re:In other news.... by Adams4President · · Score: 1

      Perhaps Slashdot needs an "Anime" section, so people like you could filter such stories out completely

      That's a good idea. Hoshino Aya? Yuya? It's like you're talking in another language or something :)

    4. Re:In other news.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully the fact that at least two people watch Super GALS will get ADV off their ass to release the second season ;)

  4. F that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want a season 3 of Big O!

    1. Re:F that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or at least an explanation of the ending of season 2. And no "Oh, you're supposed to interpret it yourself" hoohah. If you make a show and have something to say, say it. Don't find yourself with too many loose ends and then cop out with some obscure ending. I will never forgive Evangelion for that.

    2. Re:F that! by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      Seconded!

      Unlikely we'll get it though, it was not cheap to produce and while its ratings weren't bad, they weren't good enough.

      But hey! At least we're getting Season Two of Venture Bros!

    3. Re:F that! by MrCobaltBlue · · Score: 2, Informative

      As much as I loved the series, unfortunately you can't really make a 3rd season of Big O. The series ended. Think of it like the Anime version of The Truman Show. But instead of just giving up, the "producers" reset everyone's memories (The day 40 years ago when everyone in Paradigm City lost their memories). So its really just a never ending loop, Roger will keep finding out that everything's a fake, then the whole world will get reset.

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    4. Re:F that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, it'd be just like a 4th Matrix movie?

    5. Re:F that! by vranash · · Score: 1

      Yeah! Only the robots are cooler and have all kinds of badass finishing moves ;-p

    6. Re:F that! by MrCobaltBlue · · Score: 1

      And I don't think Roger Smith will ever say "I know kung fu" or "Big O! There is no Spoon!"

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  5. why? by torrents · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    why is this on /. and why am i commenting?

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    1. Re:why? by ggvaidya · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because CmdrTaco owns this site and your soul and you know it!!!

      Search your feelings, or your browser history: you know it to be true. :)

  6. Klerck by Compact+Dick · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Where is he, now that we need him to write up another petition to change the name to something less offensive?

  7. Feh by Megane · · Score: 1, Troll
    In IGPX, the year is 2048 and the "IGPX" has become the world's most-popular sport. It's so big that an entire city was built for the racing industry where competitions take place on a huge, 60-mile track called "The Big Eye." In the "Immortal Grand Prix," two teams of three Mechs, high-tech fighting machines driven by humans, race at speeds greater than 350 mph.

    Gah. Mechs. Before I clicked on the link I knew there would be mechs in there somewhere. I could care less about damn gun mech-centric anime.

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    1. Re:Feh by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why do all these shows nowadays focus on some "competition" like a race, or a card tournament? The stupidest one I've seen is that kid's show on saturday morning where a giant arena of people gathered to watch kids fight with spinning tops! It was like ten-thousand people all looking down at a little 2 sq-ft board with little spinning tops smacking into each other, while prebuscent kids yelled at the top of their lungs to... I don't know... get the tops to hit each other harder or something. It made no sense.
      There's never any real conflict in these shows, the 'evil' character is just another player in the 'tournament'. When Optimus Prime and Megatron fought, they didn't pull out little decks of cards or summon holographic monsters to fight for them, they went out there and beat the shit out each other! And it wasn't for some lame 'tournament', it was because the Decepticons were trying to take over the whole freakin' world! I tell ya... thank god for Justice League Unlimited, or kids today would have no sense of proper cartoon violence!
      [end rant]

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    2. Re:Feh by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Good mecha is hard to come by (Original Getter robo and the original Gundam come to mind) but poor mecha is easy to come by and little kids love toy robots. So CN just keep saying and getting shows based on poor mecha rather then the good stuff, so all you see is 2D characters throwing in poor one liners and repeating each week. Theres a big difference between what CN shows and what any self respecting mecha fan would watch..

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    3. Re:Feh by R.Caley · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Why do all these shows nowadays focus on some "competition" like a race, or a card tournament?

      1. You don't need to come up with plots.
      2. You have an obvious way to spin off merchandise.
      3. ????
      4. Profit!!!!
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    4. Re:Feh by Have+Blue · · Score: 1

      Those shows are aimed at young children. All the "real" shows are on Toonami (saturday evening) and Adult Swim (every night except Friday).

    5. Re:Feh by Megane · · Score: 1
      It was like ten-thousand people all looking down at a little 2 sq-ft board with little spinning tops smacking into each other

      That's G^HBeyblade, and I see the stupid cheap plastic arena thingies show up at thrift stores every now and then. It's such a lame idea it's actually scary.

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    6. Re:Feh by Megane · · Score: 1
      Theres a big difference between what CN shows and what any self respecting mecha fan would watch.

      Thanks for pointing out that not mech shows are created alike. I actually liked Patlabor, but in that show the mechs were little more than props in a police anime. They were police cars with legs. I loved Nadesico and its mech parody Gekiganger. But Evangelion bored me long before I could get to the fscked-up half dozen episodes at the end.

      And I understand that some Gundam is good and some is awful, even to Gundam fans, but I've got little interest in mechs. I don't mind a show that has mechs, but one that focuses on mechs I can't get into. Especially when the mechs and their Battle of the Week are an excuse for no plot, at which point I don't think you'd be watching anyhow.

      This new show sounds to me like "race complication of the week". Or "opponent with special powers of the week".
      With MECHXS!!@!2!@ONE!!!!1!!

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    7. Re:Feh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I so agree. Pretty much any anime that involves giant robots blows, Evangelion included (actually, I hate Evangelion more because two of the three main characters are incredibly annoying, but the giant robots don't help). Teenage girls too; why are 30+ year-old guys watching Sailor Moon, et. al.? Aren't they kids cartoons? Wouldn't you think it wierd if a Japanese man watched My Little Pony?

      There are some great anime shows, but, just like anything else, 90% is crap.

    8. Re:Feh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing about eva is that its not a mecha anime. The only people who call the last episodes "fucked up" are the ones who expected a mecha anime ending, and were surprised by the whole philosophical bent of the show they didn't see coming.

      Not that that makes it much less boring ;)

    9. Re:Feh by IntergalacticWalrus · · Score: 1

      Why do they do this? It's simple, really: those shows are just one big toy commercial. Very lucrative.

    10. Re:Feh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your 3rd step is unnecessary! You've finally found the perfect formula! Brilliant!

    11. Re:Feh by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but so were He-Man and Transformers, just glorified toy commercials really. I see your point, but I guess we kids in the 80's had actually writers like Larry DiTillio and Joe Michael Straczynski working on our cartoons. They tended to infuse actual stories and characters in around the toy commercial aspects.
      Who knows, maybe this IGPX thing will be good, being coproduced with CN picks my hopes up a little. (i never saw the original micro-series)

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    12. Re:Feh by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1

      1 You don't need to come up with plots.

      2. You have an obvious way to spin off merchandise.

      3. ????

      4. Profit!!!!

      And how was Transformers any different? Cartoons have been selling toys for a lot longer than you think. And the stories ain't exactly original!

      Anyone remember the Flintstones selling cigarettes? Those were the days! None of these Politically Correct spinning tops...we want drugs, rock&roll & violence in our cartoons!

    13. Re:Feh by R.Caley · · Score: 1
      And how was Transformers any different?

      Transformers was crap too, but it wasn't an example of competition to avoid plot.

      OTOH, Wacky Races was an example of a competition and no plot, but wasn't crap because they used the framework as a basis for a stream of gags, so there was entertainment.

      BTW, you must be young if you think Transoformers counts as a long time ago:-). They were selling me Thunderbirds merchandise the first time around.

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    14. Re:Feh by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

      Exactly. In alot of Gundam mecha is just there to advance the plot and to make money to continue the story (original is an example of this) where as the latest ones (everything post G) focuses more on flashy mecha then characters. But depending on which camp you talk to (Old fans or new fans) you will get different opinions on which is better or worse. Although there is some totally vile Gundam around, but theres also some amazingly good Gundam..

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    15. Re:Feh by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 2, Funny

      The stupidest one I've seen is that kid's show on saturday morning where a giant arena of people gathered to watch kids fight with spinning tops! It was like ten-thousand people all looking down at a little 2 sq-ft board with little spinning tops smacking into each other

      Well, "Robot Wars" did so well, they figured "Dreidle Wars" was worth a shot!

    16. Re:Feh by mrbooze · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The fact is, no non-prime time animated shows make *all* their money from merchandising deals. It doesn't matter how good the ratings are, they never get enough money from ads to cover production costs. If you're cartoon isn't selling toys, shirts, lunchboxes, etc, it's losing money, period.

      That's why Static Shock ended even though it was something like the number one or two highest rated american-produced kids cartoon. They couldn't get a toy company to agree to a merchandising deal, and had to stop production even though the network wanted more shows.

      It's a sad fact, and almost certainly the reason most animated shows are crap, especially the American ones.

    17. Re:Feh by mrbooze · · Score: 1

      bah, typo, should say "all non prime-time animated shows make all their money from"

    18. Re:Feh by Porter+Doran · · Score: 1

      Kids' entertainment nowadays is just one big oversized commercial. A kids' world is one of nonstop consumerist propoganda. Pity their young brainwashed minds.

    19. Re: Feh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In IGPX, the year is 2048 and the "IGPX" has become the world's most-popular sport.

      IGPX? :( What about Blitzball!!

    20. Re:Feh by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 3, Funny
      little kids love toy robots.
      But chicks dig giant robots.
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  8. Anime Powerpuff Girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe this explains the Anime version of the Powerpuff Girls that has been spotted? Maybe CN is trying to get a presence in Japan?

    1. Re:Anime Powerpuff Girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not viewable without signing up for the forum

    2. Re:Anime Powerpuff Girls by gpinzone · · Score: 1

      Works for me. Cool stuff!

    3. Re:Anime Powerpuff Girls by Neko-kun · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Mind you there is a rather decent doujinshi. Hasn't been updated in two weeks, but for the quality that is produced, I have no complaints.
      http://bleedman.snafu-comics.com/

    4. Re:Anime Powerpuff Girls by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

      Maybe this explains the Anime version of the Powerpuff Girls that has been spotted? Maybe CN is trying to get a presence in Japan?

      Hmm I don't think so.

      a) Rowdy is a fan. And he included some Nickelodeon characters too.

      b) The powerpuff girls were actually a parody of anime girls. And the related Show, dexter's lab, also makes fun of Mechs. And MEGAS XLR made fun of the following Anime Series: Voltron, Galaxy Express 999, Sailor Moon, Power Rangers, G-Force, need I say more? :P

      c) I prefer the much more soffisticated Saber Marionette J than the powerpuff girls. (out of topic, but hey this is slashdot :P )

      In conclusion, Cartoon Network is NOT trying to get a presence in Japan. They have just acknowledged the ever-increasing popularity of Anime in the western hemisphere.

    5. Re:Anime Powerpuff Girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    6. Re:Anime Powerpuff Girls by SamSim · · Score: 1

      That's an interesting development, I wonder what the guy drew this would think. He's been doing a comic strip of sorts featuring said girls in an anime sort of style for a while now...

  9. As long as... by Braingoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Its not another cartoon with girls with big eyes short skirts and mystical powers. I will give it a chance.

    1. Re:As long as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Its not another cartoon with girls with big eyes short skirts and mystical powers. I will give it a chance.
      Would you rather it be about guys with little beady eyes, long pants, and annoying quirks? Sounds like it's about Slashdot.
    2. Re:As long as... by flatface · · Score: 1

      The closest one I can think of is "Otaku no Video". You have to watch it to see why it is a lot like Slashdot.

    3. Re:As long as... by Jack+Taylor · · Score: 1

      How about a cartoon about girls with big eyes, short skirts, and lethal martial arts and marksmanship skills?

      But seriously, there are a *lot* of different types of anime out there. You should check them out.

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    4. Re:As long as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no there aren't. They're all the same damn thing. I don't care how you try to package a pig, it's still a pig.

  10. New? Hardly by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 4, Informative
    This show aired before, but as a miniseries. Only difference is now its a full-fledged series.

    IIRC, it wasn't all that great either.

  11. Re:OMFG! by Steven+Gray+(Pulse+U · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It doesnt take a genious to realise why this is here. "Geeks" stereotypically love stuff like Gundams and whatnot, with it's well developed universe. What Cartoon network are doing is capitalizing on the (Also mentioned here on Slashdot) fan-subbing movement, and producing an original series in that style, meeting a growing need. It's not going to make CNN, but for a place that covered the relevent material, and since the subject matter has a clear link to the readership of this site, that is why it's here. Obviously you arent the part of the demographic with a degree in anything. Regards,

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  12. Toonami by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 0, Troll

    Toonami is just riding the Japanese fad right now, anyone who has access to a PC has already found fansubs and is downloading them rather then watching the poor quality dubs. Do we honestly care what a children's channel does?

    How about we start seeing news on how Tech TV has started a new show based on sex, drugs and sports instead? Same thing really, anyone who cares isn't here..

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    1. Re:Toonami by EmperorKagato · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Japanese fad is sure lasting a very very long time. I don't think something that has been around for over 20 years is considered a fad.

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    2. Re:Toonami by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      yes we do, because:

      A: CN is not a children's network, have you seen [adult swim] that was my first exposure to Cowboy Bebop, i, like many other people, never really knew about anime before that

      B: this isn't a poorly dubbed show, this is coproduced in America, so the dialogue will be natively written and performed in both languages

      C: they've been "riding this Japanese fad" for over 10 years, how long do fads last?

      D: alot of kids watch anime on Cartoon Network because its their only exposure, this affects the next generation of sci-fi fans. alot of people on Slashdot probably have kids who are into Toonami and anime, and would be interested in this

      E: because its cool, its news... its for nerds... and if you're an animation fan (like many /.'ers) its stuff that matters

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    3. Re:Toonami by tuffy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Maybe you and your friends are big on downloading fansubs, but the majority of people aren't. Most people get their anime on TV, some from the DVD rack at the store and a small minority from BitTorrent. And since TV exposure has a huge impact on popularity and DVD sales, what the Cartoon Network is airing matters.

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    4. Re:Toonami by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

      Theres fans who arn;t into the fad who have been round 20 years. I'm talking the current flood of "OMG YUGIOH! OMG OMG OMG!" fans. The fans CN sells to.

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    5. Re:Toonami by assassinator42 · · Score: 1

      I'd rather watch high quality dubs than poor quality fansubs. In my experience, fansubs are usually really crappy video quality, while dubs (on the net) are usually ripped from DVD and are much beter quality. The oggs are nice, they have english/japanese audio and subs. And I do like Cartoon Network, shows like Megas XLR, Justice League, and Teen Titans are awesome Cartoon network only shows.

    6. Re:Toonami by tuffy · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I'd rather watch high quality dubs than poor quality fansubs. In my experience, fansubs are usually really crappy video quality, while dubs (on the net) are usually ripped from DVD and are much beter quality.

      Fansubs typically come out at low quality because they're done on a fast deadline. Many fansub groups crave popularity so they work to get the show subbed and on the torrent as fast as possible. So the quality suffers.

      DVDs often have more accurate subtitles and the quality of dubs is good (in general) and continues to improve because the majority of the DVD buying market demands it.

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    7. Re:Toonami by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      [AS] is a seperate network as of last Friday.

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    8. Re:Toonami by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      anyone who has access to a PC has already found fansubs and is downloading them rather then watching the poor quality dubs. Do we honestly care what a children's channel does?

      Just because you do it still doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of anime watchers out there watch it dubbed. If DVDs didn't allow multiple language tracks we'd still be paying $5 more for the subbed version.

    9. Re:Toonami by ookaze · · Score: 1

      B: this isn't a poorly dubbed show, this is coproduced in America, so the dialogue will be natively written and performed in both languages

      You mean, like Ghost In The Shell (the first one made by Oshii san) ?
      It was the same situation than the one here, and the english dub was AWFUL. We french, english anime fans could tell you you would be far better off watching the japanese dub. Japanese staff would not even comment on it, to tell you how bad it was.

      To allow you to understand my view of a quality dub, the last Vampire Hunter D film was just bearable (supportable, don't know the exact word). And I'm french, so english and japanese are both foreign languages to me, even though I know both, and understand english better than japanese.

      Well, all this to say that the fact that it is done this way does not warrant a quality dub

    10. Re:Toonami by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Bearable" was the right word. "Supportable" wouldn't have made sense.

      In your first paragraph, you should use "as" instead of "than" because you were comparing two similar things instead of two different things.

      Also, you technically used "warrant" correctly, but in my experience "warrant" usually means something more like "justification" when used like that. This may be a difference between American and British dialects, though. "Guarantee" would have sounded better to me.

      I hope that was helpful for you. You seem like the type to welcome feedback on your language skills.

    11. Re:Toonami by EggyToast · · Score: 1
      Fansubs typically come out at low quality because they're done on a fast deadline. Many fansub groups crave popularity so they work to get the show subbed and on the torrent as fast as possible. So the quality suffers.

      Some fansub groups work solely for speed. Others are heavily focused on good codecs, heavy use of filters, and quality encodings to get a really good picture.

      But it's not so much "fansub v DVD" as "TV Rip v DVD." The vast majority of fansubbed series are recorded off TV, so of course they're not going to be as high quality as a DVD rip. But they're also out usually a few weeks after the show airs (sometimes days for popular series, such as Bleach) rather than years.

      But quality is part of the reason there are so many fansub groups, and why they often work on series at the same time -- some focus just on speed and getting the show out there, while others will focus on accurate translations and will put the show on hold if there's a conflict or problem, pushing it back a day or however long until it's resolved. The group Lunar is one such group, and have actually released multiple versions of releases that were found to have a problem, whether it be a codec issue or even a flub in the subtitles. One recent episode they put out went up to version 3.

      So yeah, a lot of it is speed, but the biggest reason the quality suffers is because they're ripping from TV.

    12. Re:Toonami by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

      this maybe true in some cases but fansubs have now almost perfected really high quality videos. As good as most movie rips.

      and not all groups speed sub (The ones that do tend to have a veyr limited fanbase) people who do really old series they love (stuff like Godmars, Mazinger and the REALLY old Gundam) don't need to rush so they do really good subs. Fansubbing in the last few years has changed greatly..

      Oh and go buy the Zeta Gundam box set and I dare you to say it's got good subs.. It's dubtitles.. and the fanbase begged for that release for several years, then it ended up butchered..

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    13. Re:Toonami by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who the cares about video quality? TV rips of TV shows are just fine for showing on my--get this--TV. I just want to watch a series, not collect HD archival copies of every anime I've ever head of.

      I mean, how much better than the 200MB Xvid can the DVD of Tokyo Mew Mew really be?

    14. Re:Toonami by assassinator42 · · Score: 1

      When I think of fansubs, I think of the ones I've seen. Which are some really crappy quality DBGT (divx 3.11a) and YYH subs. I haven't downloaded many recently, as I perfer dubs anyway. I have seen some good quality tvrips though. I don't know how most fansub groups capture the tv show. Satellite, cable?

    15. Re:Toonami by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Comparing the video/sound quality between an illegal dvd rip (someone had to pay for that translation) and a pre-license fansub recorded from broadcast is pointless.

      Comparing the quality of translation is another matter. I haven't watched enough shows both fansubbed and professionally dubbed to weigh in on that specifically, but I can say that it's nice to get the extra background kanji translations and cultural notes of a good fansub.

  13. Power Puff Girls Z by Deathlizard · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well that explans this then.
    http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20050401/ta f.htm

    It's about 3/4th's down the page. or click the link below for the quick picture.

    http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20050401/ta f32.jpg

    1. Re:Power Puff Girls Z by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, I didn't know Japanese used the term "Japanimation," but there it is, in glorious Katakana.

      The character designs are cuter than the original, for sure.

    2. Re:Power Puff Girls Z by IntergalacticWalrus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yep, the Japanese use the term "Japanimation" to refer to local animation. For them the term "Anime" refers to animation in general.

    3. Re:Power Puff Girls Z by Leffe · · Score: 1

      The best part is that it is not an April Fools joke even though it was announced on April the first :)

    4. Re:Power Puff Girls Z by TheBoostedBrain · · Score: 1

      How do I google search for more on that image?

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  14. Top Cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Am I the only one who thinks Top Cat was the best cartoon show ever made?

    1. Re:Top Cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I liked Heathcliff more, personally.

  15. Re:Toonami? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you suggest, that they change their name because of the Tsunami. I bet you think that Anthrax should change their name too, because of the anthrax scare. People aren't going to change their name after spending all the effort to popularize it in the first place because some event happens after-the-fact that offends a few people.

  16. Re:Toonami? by Xoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    You do realize that Toonami has been around since 1997 on the Cartoon Network. The world was a much different place back then.

    I agree the tsunami was a terrible tragedy but there is no reason for them to change the name of their Saturday evening block of cartoons because of it.

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  17. meh by j0nb0y · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I stopped watching toonami when they stopped showing it on weekdays. The worst part was they replaced it with meguzi or something, which is total crap. Now I hardly watch cartoon network. I used to watch it a lot.

    I remember the good old days, when Moltar hosted toonami...

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    1. Re:meh by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      I've not watch Cartoon Network other than for Adult Swim for a while now, but isn't Toonami still on, just before Miguzi? But you're right, Toonami is just a shell of its Moltar-hosted days. Man, it used to be so cool....

    2. Re:meh by mako1138 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, it was totally slick.

      (WTF is Miguzi? Haven't watched TV in awhile...)

    3. Re:meh by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      Miguzi is Cartoon Network's (relatively) new weekday afternoon block. It turns out that Toonami has been relocated to weekends exclusively now on CN. Miguzi's bumper segments are more technicolor than Toonami's slick, dark feel. (Well, originally it was slick and dark, later on it looked like they were trying too hard. The days when Toonami was hosted by Moltar and "dared" to show Big O during the middle of the day are long over.)

      Miguzi is also friendlier to American cartoons like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and the lamer anime imports.

  18. Big O by LordNimon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Didn't the Cartoon Network pretty much pay for the 2nd season of Big O?

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    1. Re:Big O by tuffy · · Score: 2, Informative
      Didn't the Cartoon Network pretty much pay for the 2nd season of Big O?

      Yes. They're even listed in the closing credits. Time-Warner mentioned producing 3 anime shows. IGPX is one, PPGZ is another. I don't think we know what the third one is yet.

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  19. First CN produced kiddy japanimation.. by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe for the kids block "toonami", but CN shelled out at least for the translation of Big O, and IIRC, they co-produced it.

    That was for the Adult Swim action block (Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Big O). This is Toonami (Dragonball, Pokemon, Teen Titans).

    Frankly, I'd say that Teen Titans anime' style would qualify it as the "first".

    There's nothing special about this announcement, /. is just parroting another press release.

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  20. Re:Toonami? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't realize it's been around. My mistake ... ignore my original post.

  21. Re:Dorks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know, they need to get a real hobby, like D&D, frikkin' nerds.

  22. Not the first original series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    See Megas XLR. Probably one of the funniest, and best cartoons around.

  23. Re:OMFG! by untaken_name · · Score: 1

    It doesnt take a genious to realise why this is here.

    Hmm. Perhaps that's why I didn't get it. Obviously, you don't have the problem with 'genious' that I have.

    "Geeks" stereotypically love...
    Hmm. Perhaps it should be on a site for "geeks", then. This site is clearly labelled "News for Nerds".

    with it's well developed universe

    Did you mean "with its well-developed universe"?

    What Cartoon network are doing is capitalizing on the (Also mentioned here on Slashdot) fan-subbing movement, and producing an original series in that style, meeting a growing need.

    Okay, suppose there is a 'need' for fake fan-subbed anime. How on Earth does that translate to a 'need' for a slashdot article?

    It's not going to make CNN, but for a place that covered the relevent material, and since the subject matter has a clear link to the readership of this site, that is why it's here.

    Wow. Just....wow. I am in awe of your linguistic "abilities".

    Obviously you arent the part of the demographic with a degree in anything.

    Obviously, you aren't the part of the demographic with adequate writing skill. Why would you assume I don't have a degree just because I don't think the formation of a new cartoon equals news for nerds? Do you always make completely unrelated blanket generalizations against those with whom you disagree? Should I have inserted a large number of spelling and/or grammatical errors in my post to aid you in reading and understanding it?

  24. Where do I donate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    to the toonami relief fund?

  25. Who digs giant robots? by TCQuad · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a co-production with Production I.G. and Bandai Entertainment and will be the Cartoon Network's first original 'Toonami' series.

    Um, no.

    1. Re:Who digs giant robots? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      I know a lot of people don't like it, but I love Megas XLR. Any show with the voice of Bruce Campbell that frequently makes fun of Battle for the Planets is ok by me.

      I wish Cartoon Network would show it some love and up their animation budget, though... the animation just looks cheap.

    2. Re:Who digs giant robots? by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      It is supposed to look cheap. That's the whole idea. It's anime-ish while making fun of anime.

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  26. Re:New? Hardly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not new? Are you kidding? It hasn't even happened yet!

    Cartoon Network first partnered with Production I.G. in 2032 to produce five 5-minute episodes of IGPX for an on-air Toonami event in 2003.

  27. T'oonami by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of cour'e. Now that A'ia ha' had their t'oonami, everyone el'e al'o want' their t'oonami...

  28. Oh boy... by Exluddite · · Score: 1, Troll

    Just what we need, more bug eyed cartoon freaks. Is there some sort of contest among the anime people to see who can do a whole cartoon in the fewest frames? Can't they be a little more..oh, I don't know,animated?

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    1. Re:Oh boy... by karnifex · · Score: 1

      Oh, I agree. Them Japanese cartoons can't hold a handle to all the great American animated series on TV right now, such as . . . uh, hmm. Give me a minute . . .

    2. Re:Oh boy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't they be a little more..oh, I don't know,animated?

      Sure, got a couple million bucks to throw at each episode of like a hundred new series a year?

      No?

      Then STFU because neither do the Japanese.

      Story trumps pretty pictures. Or maybe you're one of those asshats who thinks stick figure kungfu fighting is quality cinema.

    3. Re:Oh boy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who says that American series is great? On the top of my head, the Simpsons was once great show that should of been cancelled 8 years ago.

      It just doesn't take away the fact that a large majority of Animes are stupid, overrated, badly drawn pieces of shit.

    4. Re:Oh boy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, most of us don't see the magic in "KARATE DORKS FIGHTING ROBOTIC PREPUBESCENT TEENS 3" or "TENTACLE RAPE 699: Ass2Mouth ButtTorrent".

  29. Have they completely missed the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    "Blending the quality and style of anime with Western storytelling, IGPX will be the first instance of a U.S. cable network working directly with a Japanese animation studio to create an original series."

    The reason I watch anime is because I like the Japanese storytelling. If I wanted Western storytelling then I would watch one of the normal shows that are on TV! While I do enjoy the anime art style, I certainly am not going to watch a bad show just because of its art.

    1. Re:Have they completely missed the point? by GTRacer · · Score: 1
      While I do enjoy the anime art style, I certainly am not going to watch a bad show just because of its art.

      OK, I'm going to admit something that might get me flamed, but I like InuYasha because of the storytelling and character development (when [as] deigns to air new episodes). My wife can't stand it and cringes when I put it on, claiming I only like it because it's Japanese.

      It's a cheesy soap opera but I love watching the relationships developing and the conflict Kagome has between the feudal era and her home time.

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    2. Re:Have they completely missed the point? by hunterx11 · · Score: 1

      I enjoy the style of anime, but frankly the quality of most made-for-TV anime is pretty low. That's kind of the point--they cut corners so they can churn out shows like mad. Sure, maybe Gendo Ikari looks cool with his hands crossed in front of his mouth, the animators were more concerned with getting away with not animating his mouth. Somehow I doubt this series is going to be any different.

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    3. Re:Have they completely missed the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You... like Inuyasha... and you're a guy? Does not compute... I'll admit to having watched it but... There is only one thing I can say.

      In the words of the Governor of California: Don't be a girly-man!

    4. Re:Have they completely missed the point? by Vancouverite · · Score: 1
      I like InuYasha because of the storytelling and character development

      Bravo! I admit, it is one of the shows that I enjoy - along with Fullmetal Alchemist, Samurai Jack, and One Piece (The Fansubbed version, not the abomination on "4Kids TV" - blecch!) among others.

      So I have eclectic tastes - so sue me. I also like "Hey! Spring Of Trivia" (SpikeTV - a Japanese Gameshow), Survivor, The Entertainer (just ended), Nova, Antiques Roadshow, and have a morbid fascination with Carpocalypse.

      In any case, the best thing about true anime shows, IMO, is that they are *not* designed for *American* kids. Ever since Johnny Quest went off the air, American Cartoons have been watered down dreck. If CN can actually capture some of the story depth and maturity of real Japanese Anime (even the lightest Anime is deeper than any Network cartood that I can think of), then I will do nothing but cheer them on. If they stick it with an 'american' depth and maturity, I'll turn it off.

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  30. This is good. by Patrick+Mannion · · Score: 2, Interesting

    [adult swim] already has their own original series, so it's great that Toonami has their own series. I mean Toonami to me is it's own network. I mean a few days ago, the Nielsen ratings started couting [adult swim] as it's own network.

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  31. Bring back Tenchi Muyo! by Whammy666 · · Score: 1

    As much as I like anime, I don't think I can sit thru another mech vs. mech anime program. That particular genre has gotten very stale and repetitive. Ghost in the Shell, Big O, Cowboy Beebop, Full Metal Alchemist offer much better entertainment.

    Some of the best anime CN had came from Pioneer, not Bandai. Programs like Tenchi Muyo and Pilot Candidate were cool. Unfortunately, CN and Pioneer parted company which is too bad, because Pioneer has a lot of good programs to offer.

    BTW CN, If you're listening: TGTTM totally blows goat's balls. Bring back Space Ghost.

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    1. Re:Bring back Tenchi Muyo! by tuffy · · Score: 1
      Unfortunately, CN and Pioneer parted company which is too bad, because Pioneer has a lot of good programs to offer.

      Pioneer (now Geneon) and CN haven't completely parted company. Samurai Champloo and Paranoia Agent are both coming to Adult Swim. But some of their shows like ROD:TV and Last Exile wind up on G4.

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  32. Re:OMFG! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YBT. HYS.

  33. The latest episode by HogynCymraeg · · Score: 1

    It has Lee Bowyer and Kieron Dyer dualing to the death! Aah! How we love the toonarmy! Oh wait.....!

  34. taseless by smallguy78 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    as tasteless as it sounds, i initially read the caption as reading 'tsnuami series', I thought the article was about a tastless pun on the recent tsunami. Thought I'd share my misreading.

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    1. Re:taseless by Cnik70 · · Score: 1

      I thought the same thing. Between the time change and the fact that it's monday, I think we can both blame it on fatigue.

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  35. Get ready to hear such gems as... by MasamuneXGP · · Score: 1

    Art of the Doppleganger! .... Evil Eyes!! .... Valentine Technique! *barf*

  36. Re:Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Making a cartoon out of one of the worst natural disaters in recent memory?

    The cartoon claims that it will be based 30+ years in the future and will involve a race circuit of giant robots.

    Exactly which natural disaster are you talking about?

  37. What about Avatar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article states "IGPX will be the first instance of a U.S. cable network working directly with a Japanese animation studio to create an original series", but isn't Nickelodeon already doing that with Avatar: The Last Airbender?

  38. Dragon Ball Z == Kiddie TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dragon Ball Z is a kiddie show

  39. Submitter owns the site... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just FYI: Rick Ellis (submitter for this article) owns the site the article was posted on. Add /. + Ads. You do the math.

  40. Re:Toonami? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "holocaustoon"

    Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. Perhaps you should let the professionals handle the brand name marketing.

    "9/eleventoon"
    "Abu Granime"


    I'm glad you're trying to come up with offensive names and all, but these ones would hardly have meant anything in 1997 when Toonami began airing.

    So, why didn't you complain back in 1997? Did you not think tsunamis were a bad thing until Fox News showed you one on TV a few months ago? If you want to be a political activist then go ahead, but don't make up non-existant fights just for the sake of arguing. It gives real activists a bad name.

  41. Re:Controversial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it me, or does Toonami sound suspiciously like Tsunami?

    Truly, you are a marketing genious. With your trusty decoder ring you have managed to crack their elaborate ruse and reveal to the rest of us the true origins of their brand name.

    Origins which, of course, were not exactly hidden given how FUCKING OBVIOUS they made it.

    But thank you for alluding to the most redundant and retarded point being made throughout this thread. Now go crawl back into your hole while the rest of us enjoy our cartoons.

  42. Samurai Jack by fallen1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Umm, yeah, I want to see Samurai Jack back. I'm a long time fan of animation (Japanese or otherwise) and also love well-written or uniquely written stories. One of the, ohh call it top 20 comics for unique stories was one that had no words in it at all - it was a story for GI Joe that centered around Snake Eyes. All emotions, everything, was conveyed through artwork and the story was, well, well written (drawn). The same is true for one of the best Samurai Jack's that aired - basically no words and all was conveyed through imagery and natural sounds.

    Still, all in all, I want to see more Samurai Jack back on Cartoon Network. GitS: Standalone Complex, Cowboy Bebop, and Full Metal Alchemist are also good to watch plus I'd also like to see a complete run of Witch Hunter Robin.

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    1. Re:Samurai Jack by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      I also enjoy FMA. Unfortunately, I watched the Fan subs before they started airing it on [AS], so I was a little disappointed when the English voices.. sucked.

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  43. Re:Disgusting by ultimabaka · · Score: 1
    Making a cartoon out of one of the worst natural disaters in recent memory?

    Exactly which natural disaster are you talking about?

    Anonymous: He probably didn't RTFA, thought "Toonami" was the name of the anime series, and thought the anime was about the disaster in Asia. Unfortunate no?

  44. Re:OMFG! by dragoncortez · · Score: 1
    Should I have inserted a large number of spelling and/or grammatical errors in my post to aid you in reading and understanding it?

    Well, this is Slashdot, after all. By the way, have you considered joining one of the local grammar/spelling-nazi clans here? I understand that they're looking for people with your particular skillset.

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  45. Apparently someone at CN is drinking the Kool-Aid by writertype · · Score: 2, Funny
    From the press release:

    "Cartoon Network first partnered with Production I.G. in 2032 to produce five 5-minute episodes of IGPX for an on-air Toonami event in 2003."

    "Hideki -- we have no capabiliity to produce these episodes using current technology!"

    "Aoki, any word from Project X on Titan?"

    "No sir -- it was overrun by the Trog raiders!"

    "Damn. Well, we'll need to turn to the Balrog Omega Ultra Option!!!!"

    *gasps*

    "No arguments! Fetch BoingBoing The Happy Fuzzball and prepare for integration! If we can't make these episodes now, we'll make them in the future! We're going through time!!!!"

  46. Mod parent up by Neuracnu+Coyote · · Score: 1

    Tartakovsky's "Samurai Jack" is, hands down, the best-directed 30 minutes on television, animated or otherwise.

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  47. Genshiken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check also Genshiken.

  48. This isn't too promising.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Blending the quality and style of anime with Western storytelling,
    Read: Combining jerky low-budget animation with two-bit Western stories. (Think good versus evil. No subtexts or deeper meanings.)

    They've made the basic mistake that most people do: Anime is not just a style of drawing, it's about the content. We've already seen a couple of series produced in the USA where they have tried to incorporate the style without understanding what makes anime so good. Needless to say, they have been soulless flops.

    I'm not looking forward to IGPX.

    1. Re:This isn't too promising.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The sad thing is that trying to put the best of both worlds together seems to end up getting cancelled. Must just cost too much. I'm thinking shows like Invasion America here.

  49. Call your cable/sat company and ask for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  50. Production I.G. by wickedj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They have some of the best animation studios around. If any of you ever watched Kill Bill, the animated scene with O-ren in it was done by Production I.G. Top notch stuff there.

  51. Conflict by talaphid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because it requires effort to come up with conflict to lead a narrative all the time. There are only so many little old ladies that can be kidnapped that the hero cares about and will feel a deep sadness when the villain... offs her! resulting in him breaking through and reaching Super Saijin Eleventeen.

    It's also easier to come up with tougher villains. "Wow, that's Johnny Loadeddice, he ALWAYS ROLLS 20s." Just have him crush more kittens as he walks into the arena then the last guy, and you know he's a badder dude than the last.

    But I think you're on to something there. Transformers: Final Deck, where the fate of the universe is in the hands of Yoshiro Someguy who must use his Autobot themed deck to defeat the many foes of Standard Highscool with their Decepticon decks or else the fate of teh universe is teh badsss!11. The more I think about it, the more I like it. Season two they could tap into the obvious expansion, Beast Wars. Season three they can get the Transformers who were all trains and stuck to the train system expansion. Then they can get autovices in season four when the fabric of reality begins to unwind, so that the protagonist and his converted from evil previous seasons' villains buddies can all summon their Autobot Force while searching for the legendary seventh autovice!

    1. Re:Conflict by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 1

      good god i hope a tv producer doesn't read that, or else kids'll be watching that crap next season! it was bad enough when they messed up Transformers with "Robots in Disguise" and the one where they ran around collecting the little robots.

      Believe it or not, your silly description of a potential transformers series is VERY similiar to what the WB was asking Bruce W Timm (of Batman: TAS fame) to produce. A futuristic world where teenagers fight cyborg mutant versions of Batman's old enemies using a card-based system of aquiring skills into their Bat-uniforms. The marketing people couldn't decide if one of the teens should be Batman, or if the kids were competing in yet another tournament to BECOME Batman. Needless to say, it fell apart under the weight of its own stupidity, and Bruce Timm was given the chance to create Batman Beyond, which was a pretty cool show.

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  52. Re:New? Hardly by Voxus · · Score: 1

    Maybe it wasn't very good because there wasn't time to develop much more than the absolute basic plot.

    Of course, if all they have in the full series is an absolutely basic plot and no worthwhile characterization, then maybe they shoulda stuck to commercial-length spots between shows. We'll see.

  53. Mark parent -1 spoiler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ruined the ending. bah.

  54. Re:Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anonymous: He probably didn't RTFA, thought "Toonami" was the name of the anime series, and thought the anime was about the disaster in Asia. Unfortunate no?

    Unfortunate that he was stupid enough to post emotional drivel without even reading the article first, yes.

  55. op by i41Overlord · · Score: 1

    ork

  56. Re:Toonami? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeez, who was the marketing wizard behind this name? Why not "holocaustoon" .

    Ah yes, equate everything that you don't like to the holocaust. Genius.

  57. Re:Anime Crap! by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

    "The characters act in a very hyperbolized manner"

    Welcome to television!

    "Look at Teen Titans!"

    Made in the USA!

  58. Re:Toonami? by i41Overlord · · Score: 1

    Tsunamis have been around long before 1997, they've been killing millions of people since the dawn of time, it was a thoughtless name back in 1997, they may as well have called it Toonberculosi

    So have hurricanes. And tornados. And asteroids. And comets. But nobody complained when Honda called their motorcycle the Honda Hurricane. I guess if the PC-police were around back then, they would have came up with sensational arguments such as "How could you name a motorcycle after a horrible storm that kills millions of people?". Or maybe you should blame GM for naming a truck "Typhoon". Right now, the word "typhoon" means a powerful force of nature in most people's minds. But let a typhoon kill thousands of people and people will associate it with death and destruction for a while.

    Currently, the word "tsunami" is fresh in the vocabularies of many Westerners and they strongly associate the word with the most recent tsunami on Dec. 26, and they're letting their emotions override their sense of reason. "Toonami" was named after the word "tsunami" long before most people in the US even knew what a tsunami was.

  59. Re:Anime Crap! by Jaxim · · Score: 0

    It may have been made in the USA, but it was definitely influenced by the Japanese Anime. Anime has a huge following, but it can't count me as a fan.

  60. Minor correction, major ranting. by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not only is this not the first time an American cable network has had a hand in producing an anime, it's not even the first time Cartoon Network has... They were the driving force behind the production of the second season of 'Big O' (An homage to all the old super robot shows...with an unfortunate name.), several years after the original was produced.

    Personally, I can't see this being good, I'll reserve judgement of course, but still... We Americans tend to destroy even the best of series with general carelessness when it comes to execution.

    Without resorting to non-opposable digits, I can count the English dubs that don't make me reach for the nearest sharp object with which I can kill myself. And I can't even begin count the number that are so bad that I'll settle for a blunt object to just beat myself unconscious.

    We have more movie and television media than any other country on the planet...why can't we find voice actors who can, you know, act? Of course, the simple answer is, we can, even I know they're out there... But the licensees don't feel like paying for a decent dub...and so, that's all we get exposed to. Just once, I'd like a mainstream channel to air anime with SUBTITLES. (Even International Channel changed most of their anime programming to dubs...so what exactly is the point of the channel now?) But then, I don't really care. I don't have cable or broadcast or anything... I just download raws of the latest series from Japan and wait patiently for the DVDs. ^_^

    As usual, just my 2 yen. I hate everything, deal with it. :)

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  61. ah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ah

    1. Re:ah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ah

      And that means I love you.

      Come fly with me.

  62. Re:Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunate that you all can't take a joke

  63. Banana Chan! by Buster+Chan · · Score: 1

    "Blending the quality and style of anime with Western storytelling, IGPX will be the first instance of a U.S. cable network working directly with a Japanese animation studio to create an original series."

    I have a web-site that's trying to attract the attention of a North American network, and/or a Japanese animation studio, to accomplish that EXACT goal.

    My web-site contains entire scripts for so-far 24 episodes of an original anime series concept called BANANA CHAN. The web-site is at:

    http://www.geocities.com/radiomovie2002/

    BANANA CHAN is an epic mystery about a tightly-knit Japanese family who must come to terms with many secrets. It's got the extremes of comedy and drama, not to mention a very complicated, yet strange and easy-to-follow, uber-plot.

    View my web-site, read the scripts, and learn how anyone can help get this series produced!

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  64. Re:OMFG! by untaken_name · · Score: 1

    Well, this is Slashdot, after all. By the way, have you considered joining one of the local grammar/spelling-nazi clans here? I understand that they're looking for people with your particular skillset.

    Although I am aware of the existence of such groups, I prefer to work alone, to fly solo, to .

  65. Re:OMFG! by untaken_name · · Score: 1

    ...to use proper tags.
    or not.
    too much work. fuck it.

  66. Voice Cast rumors by echocharlie · · Score: 1

    I've heard that Haley Joel Osment may be cast as the lead role. He was excellent in some other voice-over roles, like Sora from Kingdom Hearts. It'll be interesting to see what this joint production will look like.