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Second Round of Serenity Screenings Sold Out
j1ggl3x writes "From a Rotten Tomatoes news article:
'Following the sell-out success of the May 5th pre-screenings, creator Joss Whedon recently announced that more advance previews of his movie Serenity would appear at twenty theaters in twenty cities, this time on May 26th. By the next morning, well before the official list of cities was posted, fans on the Serenity movie site and elsewhere had diligently located half the listings through trial and error and several of the locations were already sold out. Serenity hits theaters on September 30th.'"
Serenity now!
FP
Good thing fox cancelled Firefly. There's clearly no public interest in that franchise.
Yes, the selling out of these theaters before the list of theaters showing it was even out is a good indication that this movie will tank.
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You clearly expected something intelligent fox to come up with.
Interestingly, no tickets have been sold at all in Jamestown.
So has Fox dropped another franchise on its way to success? Are they going to pick the ball back up like they did with Family Guy?
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News for nerds.
You're clearly not one.
Several of the screenings sold out before they were even announced. Many enterprising Browncoats "hacked" the Fandango URL until they found the screenings.
A movie that really hasn't even been released yet sold out. Twice. Yeah, that happens all the freakin time. [does the sarcasm wave]
"By the next morning, well before the official list of cities was posted, fans on the Serenity movie site and elsewhere had diligently located half the listings through trial and error and several of the locations were already sold out."
Ladies and Gentlemen. Now THOSE are fans.
...but who the hell is Joss Whedon, and what the hell is Serenity?
With spending like this, exactly what are "conservatives" conserving?
First post! In Soviet Russia, all your band camp are belong to us, you insensitive clod!
I, for one, welcome our new goatse overlords...
You guys need to get the idea out of your head that a highly devoted fanbase is the same as a large fanbase. Just because some rather limited amounts of seats sell out instantly doesn't mean the movie can't flop.
Joss Whedon - Creator of Firefly, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and Angel.
Serenity - Feature length film based on Firefly, which Fox cancelled a couple of years ago.
Wrong thread i think. but ya... i agree :-P
Kyle
http://www.unlogikal.net/
ummm...wrong thread, dude
Wow, that's a serious bug. I totally clicked post commeont on the news headline before this. WTF.
"Serenity" - a forthcoming movie based upon Joss Whedon's television series *Firefly*, which was a near-hard SF show set about 400 years in the future after mankind had migrated to another star system. The show is about the crew of a ship, Serenity, that straddle the boundaries of legality (smuggling, but nothing bad; carrying fugitives from the big bad corporate government) and are mostly loyal to their captain, Mal, who is a veteran of the losing side in a civil war against the big bad corporate government. The show depicted two classes of worlds: high-tech core worlds, and low-tech "Western"-style frontier worlds. Joss Whedon wrote Alien: Resurrection, and created Buffy the Vampire Slayer (both movie and tv show), Angel, and a few other things.
Just because a movie sells tickets doesn't mean a thing. Look at the movies that rack in big bucks, yet suck.
For the second damn time, I found out about preview screenings off of slashdot, way after the fact. Well, now I've bookmarked the page just in case they add Houston.
Whether it sucks or not is irrelevant. He said it wasn't going to do well.
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Dang, this is popular!
They should make a TV show out of it or something...
ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
I think you're posting to the wrong thread, but just to steer it back to this one, you can buy all the Firefly episodes ever made for less than the cost of a couple months of Tivo. And you can transfer those even quicker to your laptop (assuming it has a DVD drive, most do these days).
I've got no love for MPAA or RIAA, and I rarely watch broadcast TV. I buy the episodes of shows I like (Stargate, Smallville, Firefly, as well as some ancient stuff that just isn't shown anymore) as they come out on DVD. This does make a difference -- I have no doubt that the sales of the Firefly DVD played a big part in making the movie Serenity possible, by proving the market.
By the way, do you watch the commercials that come with those downloaded broadcast episodes?
-- Alastair
I liked Titan AE...
Not a Twitter sockpuppet... but I wish I was.
"Networks are in the "Make Money" business. Fox and a number of other networks now make more off the DVD sales on a series than on the broadcast of the series."
Guess that explains the MPAA lawsuits, even though TV is worldwide and FREE.
google it, you dumass
Cancel EVERY series after 13 episodes!
Keeps production costs down, improving margin on later DVD sales!
If you don't like it leave. The editors think that it will drive people to the site, and that they'll get ad dollars (although I haven't seen a single ad since I installed AdBlock). Stop complaining and go look at porn until the next story is posted. Oh, and you made a grammer error: You didn't put a semicolon after the inappropriately capitalized "NERDS".
I'm probably at the karma cap. Mod up a funny troll instead, it lightens the mood
I second the liking of Titan AE.
I want to know if I should be pi**ed or not about missing out. And on what site are the screenings announced? I didn't see it at the rottentomatoes site linked in the article.
are up to over $250 dollars for a pair for the DC show.
"Waste not one watt!" - CZ
Fox couldn't stand having themselves portrayed as the baddies.
We don't see the world as it is, we see it as we are.
-- Anais Nin
Serenity is a movie based on the Firefly TV show which is this year's hipster "western but in space" based science fiction series.
Oh, and you made a grammer error:
Oh, and you made a grammar-- er, I mean, speling eror.
He's the ass-clown who wrote Alien Ressurection. He's frequently described as a "genius" by his fans, who clearly are crippled by mental illness.
Instead of being so bitter and oblivious..
Why don't you go rent/borrow/buy/steal Firefly the series, to figure out what all this buzz is about?
Its on DVD and is being sold/rented at many places (brick and mortar as well as online)
If you're a geek of any measure, you'd most like enjoy it. Then again you may not, but theres only one way to find out.
"near-hard SF"? It seems to me that Firefly places little emphasis on the hard science aspects of SF and rather emphasizes character interactions.
Am I missing something?
Related obliquely, if at all: the script doctor for the new Star Wars movie was the truly great playwright Tom Stoppard, which bodes well for the quality of dialogue in the new movie. But imagine if Lucas had somehow gotten David Mamet to touch up his dialogue:
Obi-Wan: That's enough. You stop fucking Padme or you're out of the Clone Wars, pal.
Anakin: Fuck you.
Obi-Wan: Fuck me? Fuck me in hell. Fuck me in hell, pal. You read the plaque on the door. You're my fucking padawan, pal. I'm your master. I've made my decision.
Well to waste space and all I'm going to say Me Too. It was a fun film, decent soundtrack, great popcorn movie.
As a rock-in-roll Physicist once said, No matter where you go, there you are.
One of the obvious reasons is that Firefly was a science fiction television show, which is generally a fairly nerdy entertainment. In addition, Firefly is generally regarded as a very good science fiction show that some might mention in the same breath as Battlestar Galactica, Farscape, and Babylon 5.
You probably could argue that TV is generally lame, and that is difficult to dispute. However, I've found Joss Whedon's work to be generally better than most of the shows out there. He deals with a lot of interesting themes in a very entertaining way without talking down to his audience.
More than that, he takes risks with his work. He kills off beloved characters if it serves his story, regardless of the fan reaction. He did a show that was almost entirely without dialogue and an hour-long musical episode.
These approaches could have ended up as cheap gimmicks, but usually they worked really well. I think a lot of people want to see entertainment that does try to be different. I think geeks and nerds are used to seeing value in things that other people might not understand.
Is a sci-fi movie ultimately stuff that matters? Perhaps not compared perhaps to environmental issues, war, and politics. But life has to be about more than that. Art, music, and culture have their places as well. Wide availablity and low accessibility don't necessarily disqualify popular mediums from being art and being important in its own way.
It sounds like you haven't really seen any of Mr. Whedon's work. I suggest you rent a few of the Buffy TV series DVD's or the Firefly collection and try it. You might find you like it, or at the very least, have a more informed dislike of it.
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If Star Trek is relevant, if Battlestar Gallactica is relevant, and if Star Wars is relevant, then, yes, Serenity/Firefly is relevant.
:-)). It made cultural sense too -- if humans moved to another solar system en masse, the language would likely turn into a kind of polyglot, with the more populous cultures figuring prominantly. It was obvious the writers put thought into the details.
While it can be debated whether any such films/tv shows are relevant in a forum like this (it is entertainment, not tech), Firefly was a good TV series, even for its short run. I did not see it first time around (on Fox), but I did subsequently, and was impressed. Like alot of people, I found myself asking why Fox cancelled it.
It was surprising, witty, and thought-provoking in a subversive rather than preachy way, and they even used plausible physics for much of the space-related action (geek connection). The injection of Chinese into the dialogue was also quite funny, once I looked up some of the meanings or asked Chinese-speaking friends about it (some of the swear words were especially funny -- nice job getting past the censors
Finally, it is still an open question whether a generally "unknown"/new science fiction movie such as this will be a commercial success. Most of the financially successful SF films have been franchaises, such as Star Wars or Star Trek. As others have mentioned, getting a geek crowd out in full force could still yield a commercial failure -- we just aren't that numerous. It remains to be seen whether the movie will have general appeal, and the outcome will say alot about whether smart, decent SF films will be funded in the future, rather than the usual Hollywood drivel. So, it bears some watching.
It's also important to point out that Firefly, like Joss's better work, was a "serial," in that later episodes depended upon previous episodes to make any sense. Unfortunately, and dumfoundingly, Fox decided to air the series out-of-order, which led to the complaints that Firefly was "confusing" and "impossible to follow."
In other words, Fox blew their own series because they didn't know what they were doing.
It's also a space western, which is a pretty tough theme to like, but somehow managed to capture the essence of what worked with the episodes of Star Trek that worked. Even though pretty much none of the characters are good guys (the captain kills people who he thinks deserves it, the crew members betray eachother for money, the pilot keeps wearing Hawaiian shirts), they're somehow likable in a bad guy way... Sort of like Han before Lucas bastardized him into a saturday morning cartoon. The old-west themes of cattle rustling and smuggling just add to the charm and the outlaw atmosphere. It was a pretty good step, in other words, to reduce what will likely be a nastily complicated future involving DRM, standards compliances, interoperability problems, technological glitches, and complicated social procedures based upon years of snowballing bureaucracy to something archaically approachable focused more on characters. Not once in the entire 12 episodes was there a spot of technobabble or an episode focused upon getting the holodeck to work. It was all about the characters, which really shined through on the DVD's.
It was good, but Fox blew their chance by thinking that it was The Simpsons. Hopefully the movie will rectify this to some degree. And if the movie does well, they can replay the TV shows. Most people haven't seen them anyway.
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What about Canada, eh?
Joss, if you bring the movie here early then we will gladly give you some bacon and beer. Think about it and get back to me.
For someone who hasn't seen any of the episodes, what's the attraction? I don't have a TV but see quite a few movies at the theatre, what is it about this scifi series that's so appealing?
Hard SF in the sense that it does not involve supar-time-travel-magic, aliens, phasers, automagical healing, or other standard sci-fi stuff.
Even the reavers or WTF ever they are called are just mentally warped humans
I missed FireFly when it was being broadcast.
After hearing about it, I downloaded about 9 episodes. Loved them.
Then I heard that the DVD set was available on Amazon for 35$. Erased my downloaded copies and bought the DVDs.
I would of never bought the DVDs without having pirated the episodes first.
Democrats or Republicans. They are both taking us to the same place and they are not afraid of us anymore.
"when the bad guys uniforms looked exactly like Spaceballs"
And the soldier uniforms were from starship troopers.
The point is it's a series without the perfect good guy / bad guy thing... Unlike Star Trek.
They push a guy they don't like into a freaking turbine engine, for chrissakes.
That alone is worth your viewing dollars.
I hear you. I'd heard enough positive buzz about Firefly (and there's Joss Whedon's reputation) to buy the DVD set blind (I'd never seen an episode). Some other shows I'd want to see a few episodes first, one way or another.
-- Alastair
Says it all, for me.
Why would anyone engrave "Elbereth"?
I used to work with one of the guys that was one of the animators on Titan AE at the Fox studios in Phoenix. He said that it was rather disappointing what was happening. Everyone at the studio knew they were being laid off and the studio was going to close after the movie was finished. As it progressed, people either were leaving or being laid off as they were no longer needed. Right at the end of the movie's development, there was nothing but a skeleton crew there. Fox just didn't care about Titan AE and didn't give it much of a chance (sounds like the series that is currently being discussed). As such, there was not much put into the movie by the people working on it. I'd imagine that played a role in the movie's success/failure.
So... who has the future *DVD* rights? Fox has what's out there, but do they have a lock on anything series-related in other mediums?
What's to stop Joss/Universal/whoever getting Nathan & the crew back for a couple more "seasons" released direct to DVD?
Why would anyone engrave "Elbereth"?
"i thought they just liked explosions and sex."
Or maybe just explosive sex.
is Firefly based off a book? comic book? something else? or is it one of Joss Wheydon's own creation and the first medium was a tv series followed by now a movie.
I was just curious if the movie actually develops the story or is it a side story that doesn't have to deal much with the main storyline (meaning that one can watch the series and future series w/o watching the movie).
I'm personally a big FireFly fan and also a big anime fan, but I've been disappointed by anime movies once too often. Anime companies try to squeeze as much money out as possible from a successful anime series by creating movies and what ends up happening is a bad story that doesn't fit anywhere on the storyline. As many of you may know, anime series are usually base off of a manga series, but an anime movie usually is a storyline developed not by the original manga author.
What I'm saying is I hope that Serenity's storyline fits with the rest of the story and isn't just some random story made up just for a movie where the series can do without.
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Ugh! I can't believe I missed a second opportunity.
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Stay sentient. Don't drink bad milk.
But look at how slowly the reaver ship and Serenity passed each other (travelling in almost opposite directions) in the first episode (or the last episode if you are a Fox scheduling wizard).
Travelling that slowly in space is not "hard SF", but of course it's dramatic (but that could have been achieved by having the ships travelling in almost the same direction and hence taking a long time to pass each other).
Amen!
Joss disocvered that if you combine angsty/whiny dialogue with actors who can angrily stare at a camera lens you can pretend you have something well written, granted in this world of $300 million B-movies it probably does seem to stand above the rest, but in the end we just have another Roger Corman, applying the same equasion over and over and over-and-over...
Why did this get modded troll? I see this sort of comment all the time from Slashdotters, albeit a bit more eloquently than this example. However, the "this has no place on Slashdot" rant is far from uncommon, and usually gets modded insightful or informative. At least be consistent, people!!
Yes the DVD has been a hit. In numbers. But you can't say it made fox a fortune. It more than likely is just covering the costs that the show LOST during its run.
The show lost no money to Fox. Fox choose to pay for production, and then did not air it. Or aired it at exotic times in the MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. I'm wondering if did better or worse than the test pattern or the infomercial on the other channels. Since no one knew in advance it would be on at that time, how could anyone see it?
You can't take the sky from me...
By the way, do you watch the commercials that come with those downloaded broadcast episodes?
Just in case this was a serious question, downloaded television episodes never contain commercials. Never.
(there are currently talks of having it be a trilogy)
To be fair, that is a trend in Hollywood right now. They all want to have the next magic money making trilogy, so they get all the actors to sign for 3 movies. If the first one is a phenomenal sucess: they make 2 more.
You can't take the sky from me...
No no no, we don't blame you: We blame Fox.
However, your geek badge is under review should you choose NOT to watch all the DVDs in less than a week: as per regular first-viewing habits.
You can't take the sky from me...
If I recall correctly, ol' Joss makes the same point in the commentary for that episode.
Shouldn't Aaron Spelling be credited with that discovery? Kevin Smith added New Jersey and Stan Lee. The other Kevin added hicks. And Joss did it with metro-sexualized mythology.
Yeah, Alien Resurrection was a bit on the lame side (to put it mildly). I did get a kick out the Angel episode where they made reference to Alien Resurrection's lameness, though. At least the guy can laugh at himself.
I third the liking of Titan AE.
I was pretty young at the time, tho.
Oh, come on - admit that you loved it whenever characters would awkwardly and unconvincingly start sputtering Chinese for no apprehensible reason...
Mind you, if there's even a chance that Morena Baccarin and Jewel Staite might be spanking each other, you can mark another ticket sold.
That's not the way pricing works. Ask Wal*Mart, Target, Costco, etc etc. If they want to sell them for $40 a shot, they'll be doing it online, or in boutiques. And they don't.
Despite the claims that the show wasn't advertised and it was hard to find. I watched 1 1/2 episodes. It was just unwatchable. Like a version of Star Trek TOS, but as a western that took itself extremely seriously. It was awful in everything it did.
At least in the case of John Waters, even if one doesn't like his movies, it's clear they did at least bring *something* to the table and basically achive what they set out to. It's the difference between garbage and curry as acquired tastes.
Gonzo porn routinely exceeds Firefly's benechmark for dialogue, acting, and set design.
Joss Whedon reported that the tickets would probably go on sale the following day. By 10am PST some services began selling tickets and were sold out within 10-15 minutes. By noon on the same day, 15 venues had sold out and an hour or two later, the entire 20 venues were sold out. Not the following morning. Within 30 minutes of the venues going up for sale, Ebay scalpers had already posted lots of 1 to 10 tickets for sale.
In other words, yet another Star Trek / B5 wannabe.
Don't forget the last episode of Firefly, "Objects in Space". Watch the episode twice. The first time you are interested but confused. The second time you start to notice lots of philosophical touches. Then listen to the commentary for the episode on the DVD, and understand why it is such a gripping tale.
This is really brilliant television.
It's also a space western, which is a pretty tough theme to like, ... The old-west themes of cattle rustling and smuggling just add to the charm and the outlaw atmosphere.
I picked up the season 1 DVD recently based on recommendations (plus it was on special and I had enjoyed Buffy & Angel!). I really really liked it, the characters, humour, SFX, plots are great. But it took a few shows to get into and I have to admit that my very first impressions were that it was not as good as everyone said. The only off-putting factor for me was that whole wild-west-meets-space theme, and I just never got completely used to it and I can't say why, but I suspect it will put joe public off much more ("cowboys in space - how stupid!". Too much wild west and not enough space for my liking, but then I can see that if it was toned down there would be comparisons made to Star Wars (Mos Eisley) so it's a bit of a catch-22.
"Because it's there." - George Mallory, when asked why he wanted to climb Mt Everest, March 18, 1923 (New York Times)
the general film audience likes character development?
i thought they just liked explosions and sex.
Rick Berman? Is that you? Tell us more of this great wisdom about how to pummel a science fiction franchise into the ground.
I happend to see that ep yesterday! It's called Fredless, somewhere in the beginning of season 3. Freds mother is telling Cordy that dad loves the slimy alien movies. Except the last on. He fell asleep during that one. That comment floored me too... Wasn't written by Whedon, though. So one of his writers was making a stab at him. But Joss has been known to be his own worst critic :)
you know you are broken when you get up early to watch more the following morning. of course, doing it this way means you are devasted when you reach the end and there's no more.
Did I, or did I not, say "NEAR-hard SF"? ? ? :-) I think this is as hard as we're going to get in a popular TV show. For comparison, take a classic hard-SF novel like *Mission of Gravity* - the story doesn't depict, but does require, FTL.
Anyone else think that having preview screenings in May for a film with a September release date is a bit insane? Why do it almost 5 months before it's released?
Yup...
Have the kooks chained themselves to the theatre doors yet?
"Joss Whedon wrote Alien: Resurrection"
:-p
Way to recommend it, dude...
James
Everything in moderation, including moderation itself
As did you. Twice.
The butchering of his scripts for Alien 4 and Buffy the Vampire Slayer is what forced him into the directors chair for Btvs "the show" and Firefly. Don't expect him to write to many scripts now a days since he is a respected director now. Consequenly writing and directing Wonder Woman for 2006. On a side note, anyone notice how similar Firefly is to Cowboy Bebop?
It's also important to point out that Firefly, like Joss's better work, was a "serial," in that later episodes depended upon previous episodes to make any sense. Unfortunately, and dumfoundingly, Fox decided to air the series out-of-order, which led to the complaints that Firefly was "confusing" and "impossible to follow."
Are US networks actually geared up to show serials. The paradigm of "show some episodes, repeat some episodes, show some more episodes" appears to be the norm.
In other words, Fox blew their own series because they didn't know what they were doing.
Not exactly news.
It's also a space western, which is a pretty tough theme to like, but somehow managed to capture the essence of what worked with the episodes of Star Trek that worked. Even though pretty much none of the characters are good guys (the captain kills people who he thinks deserves it, the crew members betray eachother for money, the pilot keeps wearing Hawaiian shirts), they're somehow likable in a bad guy way... Sort of like Han before Lucas bastardized him into a saturday morning cartoon.
Another influence would probably "Blake's 7".
Funny, I had the exact opposite impression. It was love at first sight for me and I thought it was even BETTER than everyone had said (if that's possible). It played to me like Star Wars if Lucas had realized his ideas were laughably rediculous and ran with it. But after watching the whole thing, it didn't quite hold up to the promise of the first few episodes. The repetitive 'big gun fight, one of the crew members is shot, but they're perfectly fine again at the start of the next episode' thing happened over and over, and started to feel really tired.
The only off-putting factor for me was that whole wild-west-meets-space theme
That's my favorite part, but then I'm a big fan of Sergio Leone style silliness.
Are US networks actually geared up to show serials. The paradigm of "show some episodes, repeat some episodes, show some more episodes" appears to be the norm.
True, but other options are possible. Fox has done pretty well with 24. I've only seen episodes in order, but I can't imagine it would make any sense at all if you shuffled them.
The killing I can deal with... Betrayal for money I can cope with... But dude, those Hawaiian shirts just crossed the line.
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you can get all the details at serenity.com.
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If "Serenity" is good, and there's no reason to think it won't be, why not create some buzz and pay for the screenings at the same time? The distributors know that the rabid fans will pay to see this movie early, and they're hoping that they'll tell all their friends about it. If you can create a buzz going into summer, people will look forward to it even while being bomabrded with the usual summer blockbusters.
I think this is a brilliant move on the distributor's part, and I hope they have a few more between now and September to keep the buzz going.
Private Parts lost money?! You must be stoned. According to this, Private Parts cost $28 million to make. The domestic box office was $41 million, which is pretty respectable for is essentially a bio-pic. And this does not include any VHS/DVD sales and rentals.
http://www.cantstopthesignal.com/ least i know where to look if they do another.
Fox blew their own series because they didn't know what they were doing.
Like someone mentioned above, it could either be superhuman incompetance, or some executive war where one was bright and produced a good show, and the other was cunning and got it on the random shifting time slot of death. In other words: Petty sabotage.
the pilot keeps wearing Hawaiian shirts
I wonder if he comes from a core planet of hawaiian shirt people and he got the frontiere job to show off his piloting skills in a less regulated and constricting environment than his tropical home.
If you look at him in "out of gas", he seems the most bothered by the cold.
You can't take the sky from me...
Anyone else think that having preview screenings in May for a film with a September release date is a bit insane? Why do it almost 5 months before it's released?
It was supposed to be released in late march.
But their producer's marketing department got wind of how much Lucas was putting in his promos and they decided that there was no way they could compete with his advertising, so they pushed it back.
You can't take the sky from me...
By the way, do you watch the commercials that come with those downloaded broadcast episodes?
I don't watch commercials.
Downloaded, or otherwise.
You can't take the sky from me...
WHY - WHY - WHY - WHY - WHY does Slashdot insist on posting stories with absolutely no context in the summaries? I had no clue what Firefly or Serenity even was until I started reading posts. Hello, everyone hasn't been waiting in anticipation for this show or it wouldn't have been cancelled.
How about you editors start using the story summaries to SUMMARIZE, instead of just posting obscure references like Slashdot is a personal blog? We're not your roommates.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
The apathy of Fox certainly was a factor, but you're forgetting that Titan A.E. also was a very bad movie:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/titan_ae/
Don Bluth directed this movie, after all: he who brought us such quality cartoons as All Dogs Go To Heaven, Rock-A-Doodle, and Bartok the Magnificent.
Not to say that Titan A.E. doesn't have its fans, but then, so does Showgirls. Titan A.E. may not have gotten the support from Fox your friend would like, but that doesn't mean the movie didn't fail on its own merits.
That sucks.
IMO Tital A.E. would have made a better trilogy.
First movie showing earth involved in the universe, building the ship and the events leading up to the attack and destruction. The movie should have ended with the few survivors escaping.
Second film should cover the survivors surviving and the plot that ends up bringing characters together and starting the search for the Titan.
The final film should have concentrated on the search for the ship and the aftermath.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
Dude. http://www.imdb.com/ is your friend. Seriously.
A friend of mine used NetFlix instead... very low risk that way. NetFlix is great for that kind of stuff. She ended up watching every single episode of Angle, Buffy, and FireFly after I nudged her to try them out on her NetFlix subscription. She'd only ever done movies before, never really considered TV series. She got totally hooked. She went through all seven seasons of Buffy, all five of Angel, and the half-season of FireFly in just about a year.
- Spryguy
There are three kinds of people in this world: those that can count and those that can't
"On a side note, anyone notice how similar Firefly is to Cowboy Bebop?"
Everyone who says that seems to have a unique meaning to the word similar.
It's like saying "ever notice how similar LA LAW and Law and Order are" IMO.
Other then both shows being in space I'm really lost as to the similarities.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
The most important thing to note here is that unlike Han Solo, Mal will always shoot first.
I'm surprised that nobody in this thread has compared this show to a similarly-themed (and similarly excellent) anime called Cowboy Bebop. Although the stories branch off in major ways at certain spots, when i watched the first few episodes of Firefly i couldn't help but automatically be reminded of CB. If Whedon did use Bebop as an inspiration, though (which is possible, since it came out first), it was nothing more than that -- inspiration. Firefly on its own is amazingly written and executed.
My favorite episode is Jaynestown. But i'd have to say my favorite character is Jayne.. so no surprise there. I actually got a little teary-eyed at the end there. And that just doesn't happen to me -- ever -- let alone with something published by Fox. The last time i got all misty in any show was in a particular Scryed (s.CRY.ed) episode. And that wasn't in America.
I need some Serenity, goddammit.
It also has mind reading psychic powers, pushing it for "near".
Of course firefly clearly wasn't a "popular TV show" anyway, since it got canned in the first season and Fox didn't even bother showing all the episodes they did make...
FTL doesn't rule something out for being "hard scifi" especially if it handles the time travel that current theories tend to predict as going hand in hand with it.