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Scanjet Music

Popadopolis writes "Hack a day is reporting that HP Scanjets have a hidden ability to play music. According to the article, "The HP ScanJet 3c/4c have a variable speed scan head that is driven by a stepper motor. The Play Tune command can be used to move the head at different frequencies." They also have a video of a scanner playing "Fur Elise.""

240 comments

  1. And printers too by suso · · Score: 3, Funny

    And so can printers. (2000)

    Yes, yes, I'm in the process of doing a remake this year along with some other simular songs.

    1. Re:And printers too by Andrewkov · · Score: 4, Funny

      And you can use your mouse as a scanner while you're playing music on your real scanner.

    2. Re:And printers too by ehrichweiss · · Score: 1

      Yeah, back in 1994 or so a friend showed me some printing he had done with a dot matrix printer and then he made me listen to the thing as it printed it. Heavy metal is what I heard...well the rhythms were heavy metal...not the actual sound.

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    3. Re:And printers too by LlamaDragon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Musical instruments don't come cheap, it's no wonder the cartridges cost so much.

    4. Re:And printers too by Frohboy · · Score: 1
      And you can use your mouse as a scanner while you're playing music on your real scanner.

      Yeah, but then you'd need to set up a pair of linearly independent highly-directional speakers hooked up to your sound card, pointing at a microphone you slide across your desk as a pointing device.
    5. Re:And printers too by willabr · · Score: 1

      Some one should call Pierre Schaeffer
      Maybe some kind of copyright infringment going on here.

      http://www.intuitivemusic.com/tguidepierreschaeffe r.html
      http://www.intuitivemusic.com/tguideconcrete.html

    6. Re:And printers too by jonfromspace · · Score: 1

      OR... You could hook it up to your Xmas lights and play some Trans Siberian Orchestra for the ULTIMATE geek show!!!

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    7. Re:And printers too by farrellj · · Score: 1

      Wow, memories...

      I remember playing Jingle Bells on an old Epson MX-80...and a pr0n program for the Apple ][+ that used the floppy drive for sound effects!

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    8. Re:And printers too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You joke, but, I've seen little hand-held scanners before, and I think I remember even once seeing a mouse advertised in some magazine that honestly was a scanner without any hacks.

    9. Re:And printers too by SidShakal · · Score: 1

      If I remember right, dot matrix printers are heavier than present-day printers.

  2. neat. by User+956 · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's like the guy who made speakers out of some old hard drives.

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  3. My C64 floppy could do that! by network23 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I could do that on my Commodore 1541 Floppy Drive.

    Fuck, I'm old. Sigh.

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    1. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by lshawnaiken · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the external 5 1/4 could really jam. I could also make music with my Okidata 10 printer. WooHoo! Sound in color!

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    2. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by kcbanner · · Score: 1

      All I know is that speakers are cheaper than a scanner :P

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    3. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I could do that on my Commodore 1541 Floppy Drive."

      You had a floppy drive? Upstart newbie. I had a tape drive on my PET2001, and the only way we could make music with it would be to record a BASIC program, then play the cassette in an audio tape player.

      Of course, this meant that any music we made had only two tones. Which wasn't so bad, considering the #1 album at the time was "Thriller."

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    4. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by lisaparratt · · Score: 1

      It's bad that I can remember enough of the sound of C64 tapes to know that Thriller sounds scarily similar...

      I'm old too! ;_;

    5. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by keraneuology · · Score: 1

      The Timex Sinclair 1000's basic compiler supported some basic sound commands even though it didn't have any sort of audio out capability. However, you could put the box near a radio tuned between stations and hear the music just fine.

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    6. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Ed+Avis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I remember there was a cricket game for the BBC Micro that used the 'click' of the relay used for the cassette remote control to approximate the sound of leather on willow. (If your cassette player had a remote control socket you could connect it to the computer and then pause/resume of the tape would be under software control.)

      Also, I saw a program published in 'ZX User' or something like that to play music on the ZX80. Despite the fact that the Sinclair ZX80 has no sound chip. I don't know whether it was an April Fool's joke.

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    7. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      really, you couldn't vary the baud rate of the tape output? on the TRS-80 one could and so play music

    8. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You obviously have bad taste in speakers.

    9. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by dtl · · Score: 1

      You could write a tight loop in Z80 asm that would make a buzz on an AM radio placed close to the ZX80. By varying the loop, you could get different 'notes'. It ate far too much CPU time to be useful for games or anything.

    10. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by timster · · Score: 2

      Or maybe you have bad taste in scanners.

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    11. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Steve525 · · Score: 1

      I had a tape drive on my PET2001, and the only way we could make music with it would be to record a BASIC program, then play the cassette in an audio tape player.

      Of course, this meant that any music we made had only two tones. Which wasn't so bad, considering the #1 album at the time was "Thriller."


      Thiller hit the charts in 1984, so what were you still doing with a PET2001 (instead of a C64)? Actually, that year I spent a lot of my time programming games on my VIC-20. There are some songs from that year (PYT from that album being one of them - blech!) with which I have a stong association of programming the VIC-20.

      My first though on reading this headline was the 1541 drive trick, too.

    12. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Not possible AFAIK with the PET2001 with internal tape drive. Besides, why would you need music to go with your TRS-80? You had color! And non-ASCII graphics!

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    13. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Well, my age betrays me... since I was a kid, I wasn't in charge of household purchasing decisions... so I was still using the PET we got several years earlier. It was only when the older kids went to college that I was allowed free reign with the PET, even.

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    14. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Stavr0 · · Score: 1
      Despite the fact that the Sinclair ZX80 has no sound chip. No sound chip??? The ZXs had no VIDEO chip either. Video was produced entirely as a software interrupt. While we're at it, the video output doubled as the audio cassette port as well.

      Almost all the I/O on the Sinclairs were produced with bit bang tricks.

    15. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by vidarh · · Score: 1
      If the poster you replied to play too much music on a 1541 floppy drive, he'll have to resort to tapes too. The drive head on the 1541 gets out of alignment fairly easily, particularly when playing "music" by banging it repeatedly against the the end of the track it was on.... (only a screw to adjust, but it was a real pain to deal with)

      Of course, the tape drive was much fun on the C64 as well - you could use it as a one bit sampler, for instance, though the sound quality wasn't exactly great.

      Worked surprisingly well for all the high pitched "I'm a guy but I'd rather try to sound like an 8 year old girl" acts of the 80's, though ....

    16. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 1
      First computer I got to play with (in 1967) was an Elliott 803, near the end of its life at the time. No disks, tapes, punched cards, floppies. For input there were two options: paper tape or manual entry of programs using console switches. Usually, you entered a boot program manually so you could then read a compiler from paper tape and then enter a program also from paper tape. For output, again a paper tape punch was available, or...

      ... primitive as it was it had the ability to produce a wide range of sounds. Basically, the sounds made were dependant on the processing it was carrying out. It was often easy to detect program loops in this way, and specific sounds were used as operating instructions. However, it was also great for making music.

    17. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by sxmjmae · · Score: 1

      Same here.

      I remember downloading the software off a BBS (Bulletin Board System).

      What a joy it was to do that trick for family and friends until the disk drive read/write head broke. Stupid $300 disk drives.

      I also found one that did a similar trick for my Dot matrix printer.

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    18. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Hmm, I thought the 803 typically ran off magnetic tapes, modified 35mm film stock?

      The V&A Museum has a working 401 & 803 at the Blythe House, I might check it out next time I'm in London...

      Did you work with the 803 professionally, or just tinker with it?

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    19. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 4, Funny

      The drive head on the 1541 gets out of alignment fairly easily, particularly when playing "music" by banging it repeatedly against the the end of the track it was on.... (only a screw to adjust, but it was a real pain to deal with)

      Ye Gods, but that brings back memories. I worked part time at a computer store in Virginia. One of my co-workers was a Navy Master Chief named Bob. I remember a father and son bringing in a 1541 floppy drive for alignment and Bob, with a very serious face, asked the son if the drive was out of alignment from playing games with copy protected discs - or from copying games with copy protected discs - "it takes a different kind of alignment process, don't ya know...". I thought the kid was going to burst into tears right there rather than admit to piracy in front of his father.

      That Bob was a funny guy. He would straighten out a paperclip and drive it lengthwise down the center of a cigarette so the ash wouldn't fall off while he was smoking - then he would walk around the store and demo all the different types of computers we sold (Leading Edge brand PC clones, Commodore 64, Commodore 128 and Commodore Amigas!) the whole time with this cigarette ash getting longer and longer...

      He's also the guy who taught me the trick for people who work in high-security areas. If you work where people wear an ID badge on a lanyard around their neck - and it's magnetically encoded (hey, this was a long time ago - long before RFID badges became common), you can go down to the local craft store and buy a long roll of magnetic craft tape the same width as the thickness of a desktop surface, and then run a length of magnetic craft tape down the whole front edge of someone's desk and every couple of days they'll find their ID badge has stopped working - again!

      Bob worked at the Navy Research Labs in Washington D.C. and one of his co-workers there asked him to take advantage of his computer store discount and buy him a copy of The Haley's Project, an educational astronomy program that was similar to "Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?". The manual was made up to look like an important government document, complete with fake "TOP SECRET" stamps on most of the pages. Problem was, they worked in a secure government laboratory and the security guards weren't too keen on Bob's coworker trying to take home a manual stamped "TOP SECRET". Last I heard, he ended up having to stuff it in his underwear to sneak it out of the building... Oh, that Bob...

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    20. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 1

      I used the 803 in my student days. A magnetic tape (enclosed within the machine's main cabinet, not a drive with mountable tape spools) was available for the 803 as an option, but the particular one I had access to was not so richly equipped.

    21. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by DevNova · · Score: 1

      I started with an Atari 800 WITH tape drive. I still remember the first game I bought for that thing...it was called Captivity, or something like that. A first-person 3D maze game. Took 9 minutes to load from tape. Kinda cool thing about the Atari tape drive was that it only used one channel, so this game had recorded guitar music that played while the game loaded. Rather a bizaare choice...listening to a folksy guitar piece when you are in the "technological age" using one of the first home computers.

    22. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by dickeya · · Score: 1

      Okidata 10 - holy shit.... I just had a flashback.

      How the computer world has progressed.

    23. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by mblase · · Score: 1

      I had a tape drive on my PET2001, and the only way we could make music with it would be to record a BASIC program, then play the cassette in an audio tape player.

      I hate to tell you this, but getting music out of a cassette tape could have been done much more easily than this.

    24. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      I hear ya about being old. I remember that program. The folks in my Atari user group figured it was written by an Atari advocate to break Commodor floppy drives. :)

    25. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Explo · · Score: 1

      As far as I remember, "Into the Eagles Nest" on Commodore 64 used the cassette drive motor to produce an imitation of footsteps far away.

      I also remember the aforementioned original drive music software for the C64 and the infamous 1541 drive. Oh, those were the days when hardware features were shamelessly used for weird tricks. :)

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    26. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by general_re · · Score: 1

      CoCo had color, but I assure you the TRS-80 sure didn't. Hell, the Model I didn't even have lowercase *letters*, unless you replaced the character generator. More here:

      http://www.tim-mann.org/trs80faq.html#%5B17%5D

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    27. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by Mad_Italian · · Score: 1

      I know what you are saying. I had 1571 music too :-/

    28. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by elgatozorbas · · Score: 1
      I had a tape drive on my PET2001

      You had a floppy drive? We had to tape together punch cards and feed them into our player piano. And we liked it!

    29. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by MarcoPon · · Score: 1
      I could do that on my Commodore 1541 Floppy Drive.
      I seriously doubt that, since Commodore never made a 1541 Floppy Drive.
      Instead, they built quite a few 154I drives! :-)

      Look: http://mark0.net/var/154I.jpg

      Bye!

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    30. Re:My C64 floppy could do that! by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      there was a TRS-80 Color which had a Motorola 6809 processor, but mine was a proper monochrome Model I that later becamse a Model II.

  4. Für Elise / For Elise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not "Animal Skin Elise".

    1. Re:Für Elise / For Elise by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

      Yeah... someone should give the submitter a ¨ . But then, Slashdot doesn't seem to be able/willing to take that, either...

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  5. Old BBS flashbacks by dada21 · · Score: 2, Funny

    This reminds me of a program for probably 15 years ago (or maybe 18?) that used an Epson dot matrix printer to make music by printing. I think it only played 3 approximate notes, and really slowly at that. Does anyone recall this software?

    I always figured those motors could be used in this fashion -- whenever you hear them operating you can definitely hear a musical quality.

    HP versus the RIAA, who will win?

    1. Re:Old BBS flashbacks by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Wow, the blog in your sig is really spammy. I like the pseudo-content - that adds epsilon worth of legitimacy (and pagerank, I'm sure).

    2. Re:Old BBS flashbacks by badfish99 · · Score: 1

      Well, *I* remember when we used to play "Jingle Bells" by sending a specially-crafted sequence of ctrl-Gs and other characters to an ASR33 teletype.

    3. Re:Old BBS flashbacks by dada21 · · Score: 1

      Heh, thanks. I write all my content on all my blogs -- years of experience in whatever I write about. I've come from years of newsletter publishing as well, and figured the cost of printing and shipping is senseless if I can translate my reader base into reading me online. AdSense helps defer the costs, but the end goal is to increase my billable rate for public speaking engagements.

      The content is real, I update all my blogs 6-7 days a week with fresh, original content. What is spammy about that?

    4. Re:Old BBS flashbacks by Hognoxious · · Score: 1
      the end goal is to increase my billable rate for public speaking engagements.
      Perhaps the way to up your rate would be to charge them for shutting the fuck up? It'd certainly be worth more to the listener.

      P.S. your advice on your teh 733t 8lo9 to pay off the smallest credit card first is crap, you should pay off the debt with the highest interest rate first.

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    5. Re:Old BBS flashbacks by dada21 · · Score: 1

      That's advice you'll get from people who think you can pay off your debt over 3 or 5 years. It won't happen. The overall percentage of people who pay off their debt by paying it over years is closer to 0% than 100%.

      When you take on extra work to pay off debt, you want to pay off the smallest debt first -- it gives you a feeling of accomplishment, it gives you one less bill to pay in the future, and it cuts back on one possible collection attempt if you're in that pit. I've helped dozens of friends and relatives get out of debt using my "3 jobs for 1 year" technique, and they all tried the "pay the highest rate first and take 3-5 years" plan and failed.

      Of course, if you feel like paying interest for years, 21% over 18% cards do cost much more. If you want to get out of debt completely in a year or less, that 3-5% difference is inconsequential.

  6. batman ? by fireiceviperhotmail. · · Score: 1

    But does it play the Batman Tune ???

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  7. Old news guys... by herohog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Old news... I discovered this some 8 years ago! There was some software on the install floppy that came with it that played several different songs!

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    1. Re:Old news guys... by uradu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yep, and I think they later removed it, since we lost the original floppy and I could never find that app again in any of HP's downloads. Mind you, I think this goes back more than 8 years--when was the 4c relased again?

    2. Re:Old news guys... by herohog · · Score: 1

      uradu wrote: "Yep, and I think they later removed it, since we lost the original floppy and I could never find that app again in any of HP's downloads. Mind you, I think this goes back more than 8 years--when was the 4c relased again?" Yeah... I was shootin on the low side... when ya been at it this long, the years start to blur!

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    3. Re:Old news guys... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and just like the scanner mouse, this has just been on http://www.hackaday.com/. cheap ripoffs....

    4. Re:Old news guys... by Marillion · · Score: 1

      I remember Peter Gabriel doing something with a dot matrix printer on his "Melt" album. Sure he followed an easier path: he modified a sample rather than modify the printer. Whilst making music from machines designed for another purpose isn't new, you have to salute the chap with the ambition to do so.

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  8. Bank of America ATMs do this by dsfox · · Score: 1

    The ATM near my house does that "charge" bugle call while it prints a receipt.

    1. Re:Bank of America ATMs do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A gas station ATM by me plays "We're In the Money."

    2. Re:Bank of America ATMs do this by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1

      This must be an industry standard. Every ATM Ive been to around here, no matter WHAT bank, plays that tune, and has for as long as I can remember.

  9. Wow. This is kinda old. by Mike+the+Mac+Geek · · Score: 4, Funny

    I worked for an outsourcer doing HP printer/scanner pre-sales in late 99. We knew this then, and used the trick to impress the new guys. I found it on the net then, not even from an HP site. I'll have to hit the wayback machine to see if I can find the original place.

    It must be a slow monday. There is either nothing happening, or this has been in queue for over 6 years, and just got approved. Explains why my stuff never gets approved.

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    1. Re:Wow. This is kinda old. by MassOutput · · Score: 1

      The documentation is dated February 1997.

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  10. Linux Kernel by komodo9 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you print the linux kernel, it sounds like angels crying.
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    1. Re:Linux Kernel by schestowitz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Play a Windows CD backwards and you will hear Satan. It gets worse: play it forward and it'll install Windows.

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    2. Re:Linux Kernel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/audio

      The kernel contains a kidden audio message: "I'm Leenoos Toorvalds and I pronounce Leenoox as ...."
      Seriously.

    3. Re:Linux Kernel by mormop · · Score: 1

      "If you print the linux kernel, it sounds like angels crying."

      s'funny. sounds more like flying furniture to me

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    4. Re:Linux Kernel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apart from it's a fucking SCANNER

    5. Re:Linux Kernel by bogie · · Score: 1

      Back in the day IIRC, that is how you knew you configured you Soundcard correctly in RedHat.

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    6. Re:Linux Kernel by Slashcrap · · Score: 1

      "If you print the linux kernel, it sounds like angels crying."

      s'funny. sounds more like flying furniture to me


      That's a coincidence - my boss also threw a chair at me when I printed out the Linux kernel source on his printer.

    7. Re:Linux Kernel by dosquatch · · Score: 2, Funny

      Play an AOL CD backwards and you'll hear Beelzebub say "Me, too".
      Worse, play it forwards and all of your base are belong to us.

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    8. Re:Linux Kernel by eosp · · Score: 0

      I'm going to fucking kill Slashcrap! I've done it before and I'm gonna do it again. I'm gonna fucking kill Slashcrap.

    9. Re:Linux Kernel by Schickie · · Score: 0

      Now here's a guy who's been around the block of a mis-spent youth a few times, avoiding error traps and EoF while photoshopping Anime boobs.

  11. It's taken this long to notice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How is this news? I remember selling HP Scanners back in 1996 when they came with a small program that would let you play a few different pieces of music. It's taken this long for someone else to notice? Wow!

  12. Great...Now I Don't Need a 7.1 Surround System by ausoleil · · Score: 1

    I love stuff like this -- you can make music with a scanner...awesome. Other than usage as a gee-whiz or a joke, is there any practicality to it other than the excercise of making it happen?

    Then again, that's the true spirit of "hacking" -- and I am old enough to remember when a hacker was someone who took hardware like this and made it do something that it was not "intended" to do and quite often, novel applications and entire product lines were born as a result.

    Still, I doubt that this will be attached to my HD home theatre and be an active participant in the audio portion of whatever movie I'm watching.

    But its still cool.

    1. Re:Great...Now I Don't Need a 7.1 Surround System by alcmaeon · · Score: 1
      'Other than usage as a gee-whiz or a joke, is there any practicality to it other than the excercise of making it happen?'

      Sure, theoretically, terrorists can now send messages coded in pictures. When printed on the propre line printer or scanned with the proper scanner it gives all the secrets for their next daring plot.

      Ooooo. Time for more Big Brother legislation, me thinks.

    2. Re:Great...Now I Don't Need a 7.1 Surround System by The+Conductor · · Score: 1

      Tree wave may find it useful. I think they do use dot matrix printers for some of their percussion sounds. Music with hack value.

  13. 9 comments and already slashdotted by alcmaeon · · Score: 0

    Geez, and I really wanted to see this movie.

    1. Re:9 comments and already slashdotted by Carthag · · Score: 1

      The video loaded fine for me just now.

  14. Old motor flashbacks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I always figured those motors could be used in this fashion -- whenever you hear them operating you can definitely hear a musical quality."

    The Winchester (remember those?) hard drives had a very musical quality to them.

    1. Re:Old motor flashbacks by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      The Winchester (remember those?) hard drives had a very musical quality to them.

      The boot sequence on my old Laser Turbo XT would boot with (I swear) the opening tones of the "Night Court" theme song. It would play "whirrr-thunk", "whirrr-whirr-thunk-thunk-thunk". I was always disappointed that my drive didn't start into the rest of the song.

      You can hear the Night Court theme song here. Just try to imagine those first bassy notes as a loud Winchester drive.

    2. Re:Old motor flashbacks by herohog · · Score: 1

      "The Winchester (remember those?) hard drives had a very musical quality to them." My old Miniscribe sounded like monkeys fu^H^Hhaving sex!

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  15. My Umax scanner can play music as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The sqeaky belt plays The Bells of St Mary very very well. I hardly have need to strap down mice any more.

    1. Re:My Umax scanner can play music as well by easytoplease · · Score: 1

      Ha! I could hardly stand to watch that! Even though it was fake...

    2. Re:My Umax scanner can play music as well by jftitan · · Score: 1

      My UMAX 24port switch makes music too...

          it all starts with torrenting. I noticed this one day.... damn its on fire again. BRB

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  16. Isn't it amazing ... by Xserv · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It's it amazing how we've trained our ears to this rather loose form of "music". When my computer does a song and dance, I'll be entertained. Wow.

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    "I love lamp."
    1. Re:Isn't it amazing ... by Fordiman · · Score: 1

      Hm. Then you won't be interested in my Full Electric Orchestra (Hard drives, floppies, scanners, dot-matrix printers, force-feedback joypads, and video cards, each set in full BWV splendor)

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    2. Re:Isn't it amazing ... by Xserv · · Score: 1

      Well, now THAT would be entertainment though! At least you could get them all to work together -- better than Windows anyway.

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  17. Bloody Hell ! by Schickie · · Score: 1, Funny
    Am I ever glad I clicked this one!

    Now then, with an old keyboard (I've found the Electrones with the 12 function and 24 programmable function keys to work the best), a manifold gasket and three plastic milk containers if you then...

  18. Inspirations... by turtleAJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was wondering: where the hell do they come up with these ideas?
    Then I saw the server name:
    ganjatron.net.nyud.net
    The GanjaTron...
    Ok, question answered...

    1. Re:Inspirations... by legalize.ganja.now. · · Score: 1

      i think it's really a great idea!

  19. Marry Had a Little Lamb by EvilBudMan · · Score: 1, Funny

    Marry had a little lamb can also be played on a touch tone telephone manually.

    Man am i bored to pot to this. Oh well.

    1. Re:Marry Had a Little Lamb by Gaewyn+L+Knight · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why yes.... yes you can :}

      3212333 222333 3212333 22321

      Amaze your friends!

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    2. Re:Marry Had a Little Lamb by funaho · · Score: 1

      I can do some Xmas songs too including "Good King Wenceslas". I used to freak people by playing stuff like that on the phone.

    3. Re:Marry Had a Little Lamb by BushCheney08 · · Score: 1

      sounds better on a pulse phone...

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    4. Re:Marry Had a Little Lamb by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 1

      I miss the old 'real' touch tone phones. For those few slashdotters that don't know, the 'touch tones' (properly called DTMF tones,) are really chords of two different tones. The chord is produced by the tone of the row combined with the tone of the column. (So 1, 2, and 3 share one of their two tones, and 1, 4, 7, and * share another tone. Those two tones combined produce the '1' chord.) On some older touch-tone phones, pressing two buttons that share a tone would produce that single tone, rather than the more grating chord. So pushing 1 and 2 (or 1 and 3, or 2 and 3,) would produce the 'top row tone'; 4 and 5 (or 4 and 6 or 5 and 6,) would produce the 'second row tone', 1 and 4 (or 1/7, 1/*, 4/7, 4/*) would produce the 'left column tone', etc. Ironically, it required 'chording' the buttons to produce a non-chord. Pressing two buttons that don't share a tone (like 1 and 5,) would be silent.

      Mary Had A Little Lamb sounded much better when played with 7/8, 4/5, 1/2, and */0. (I'll use just the first number in each row: 7 4 1 4 7 7 7, 4 4 4, 7 * *, 7 4 1 4 7 7 7 7 4 4 7 4 1.)

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  20. MP3 of Renault Making Music - Formula 1 Engine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Renault did something similar to celebrate their world championship win with the RS25 V10 Formula 1 engine -

    http://www.renaultf1.com/en/car/engine/index.php?n ews=tcm:3-41673

  21. OMG how hold is this? by sterno · · Score: 1

    Not only can printers do this but the scanners have been doing this since at least 1997. I remember we played with this stuff in a computer lab on campus when I was in College. I'm guessing this is a dupe but I don't really feel like searching through almost a decade of Slashdot to find the link :)

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    1. Re:OMG how hold is this? by Fishstick · · Score: 1
      --

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      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

    2. Re:OMG how hold is this? by Tet · · Score: 1
      Not only can printers do this but the scanners have been doing this since at least 1997.

      Wow... how young are you? Since 1997, perhaps, but the concept has been around much longer than that. I remember hearing a Commodore 1541 disk drive play "Daisy daisy" in the mid '80s, and IIRC, people were playing music on drive cabinets back into the 1970s.

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    3. Re:OMG how hold is this? by ArtfulDodger75 · · Score: 1

      I was doing this with a 5.25 inch floppy drive on the Commodore 64 back in the 80s. Yawn.

  22. Output. by IainMH · · Score: 1

    What it actually prints out is "Ouch. Quit it!"

    1. Re:Output. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The scanner prints too?? Is there anything it can't do?

    2. Re:Output. by IainMH · · Score: 1

      GPWM.

  23. Broadcast Flag? by aw232 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Doesn't this mean that the printers will have to come with a means to detect if they are going to be used to play or copy DRM'd music?

  24. Bah.... by JazzyJ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let me know when you have a whole lab of these networked and synced together playing like an orchestra. THEN you might have something!!

    1. Re:Bah.... by Hollinger · · Score: 1

      Been there. - http://www.sat.qc.ca/the_user/dotmatrix/en/intro.h tml

      Check out the link. They have streams of audio samples available. This was featured on slashdot a year or three ago.

  25. Latest in a long line of such hacks by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For instance, as early as 1964, the IBM 1403 line printer was programmed to produce music. Here is a page with a song sheet. While I cannot find a reference, I remember someone else at IBM who used multiple tape drives as a kind of orchestra, also in the 1960s.

    1. Re:Latest in a long line of such hacks by barronVonBackstabber · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Univac engineers did this at a site I worked at in the mid 80s. 19 tape drives configured to play Beethovens 5th I think, was quite a sureal thing.

    2. Re:Latest in a long line of such hacks by ballpoint · · Score: 1

      Back in my punched-card-and-lineprinter days (please don't ask, and no, I'm not THAT old), I used comments that made a distinctive sound when my job was printed so that I could identify it from across the room.

      Back then it was
      - read in a box of 2000 punched cards, 500 cards at a time
      - wait 15 minutes for the job to complete
      - wade through 500 pages of paper output
      - no profit
      - correct/duplicate some cards
      - repeat ad nauseam

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    3. Re:Latest in a long line of such hacks by Captain+DaFt · · Score: 1

      Here's one that goes back further than most of us here; The Friden March.
      http://www.embedded.com/98/9802fe2.htm

      Just scroll down to the sectio titled "The Friden Algorithm", now that's Ooold school, when your desktop had gears!

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  26. Yep. by game+kid · · Score: 1

    Doesn't this mean that the printers will have to come with a means to detect if they are going to be used to play or copy DRM'd music?

    Yep. It'll come with SSSSPMT (Super Silly Secure Scanner-Played Media Technology)

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  27. Trinity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Relive the happy old days, listen to machinae supremacy's SIDologies. Part 2 was released today (~13min, 17.6MB), completing the trinity. You can get the other two parts from their website.

  28. A fool's errand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's see it do Flight of The Bumblebee

  29. Using printers to play music by lahvak · · Score: 1

    Back in early 80's, I was in an industrial band, and we used several dot matrix printers in some of our songs. We also used a large mainframe printer in one song, but it had to be recorded on a tape, as it was way to heavy to move around.

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  30. Floppy drive voice synth by jfengel · · Score: 1

    On my old Osborne 1 I had a dual floppy drive setup (and no hard disk.) The speaker wasn't capable of much more than a high-pitched beep that sears my soul to this day. The floppy drives were noisy buggers, especially when the disk arm moved, which you could control pretty directly by bypassing the BDOS and going to the BIOS. (Memory protection? What's that?)

    The speed wasn't anywhere near high enough for music, but somebody had written a freeware program that could use them to create a kind of gravelly (and frankly unintelligible) voice synthesizer.

  31. So did Sinclair ZX80 by jsveiga · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the 80's, the nerd thing to do was to write assembly programs for the Sinclair. IIRC, you would convert the opcodes (which we all knew by heart) to ASCII, write a REM line with that, and run it (which I don't recall how).

    I'd write loops inside loops, with changing and interdependent step sizes, and it would generate sounds on a FM radio sitting on the computer top (I KNOW my Z80 clock was 3.57MHz, way below FM; it was most probably due to harmonics interference or the radio IF).

    I could get beats and interesting disco-like effects, and make alien phony calls. Then computers started shipping with speakers and sound processors and spoiled all the fun.

    1. Re:So did Sinclair ZX80 by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 1

      Heh, I remember that sort of thing done on a TRS-80 (before they called it the "Model 1" to give my age away.) One would put a radio tuned to a dead spot on the AM band next to the machine. You can still do that to hear the machine cycles happening, but turning them into music was an artform.

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    2. Re:So did Sinclair ZX80 by NCG_Mike · · Score: 1

      Tandy (Radio Shack) had a Model 1?

    3. Re:So did Sinclair ZX80 by Fishstick · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah

      http://www.kjsl.com/trs80/model1info.html

      That was my first machine -- wish I still had it, traded it in to buy a used printer by the time I had a model III

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      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

    4. Re:So did Sinclair ZX80 by Maurader · · Score: 1

      I remember doing the same thing with the Sinclair ZX81, and writing a program to alter the Brain Busting RF waves with my joystick. Ah those were the days. :)

    5. Re:So did Sinclair ZX80 by Keebler71 · · Score: 1

      Completely off-topic... but I'm in the aircraft test and evaluation buisness and this is precisely the reason that operation of poratble electronic devices is not allowed below 10k ft. Electronics companies are all about profit; shielding and EMI testing are not high on their list of priorites when they are trying to meet a quarterly product cycle deadline...

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    6. Re:So did Sinclair ZX80 by vasko · · Score: 1
      In the 80's, the nerd thing to do was to write assembly programs for the Sinclair. IIRC, you would convert the opcodes (which we all knew by heart) to ASCII, write a REM line with that, and run it (which I don't recall how).
      All BASIC programs were located on some static, known address. If that REM line was first line of the program you could start that machine code by typing 'RAND USR address'. Same kung-fu worked on ZX Spectrum except that some peripherals as Interface1 or different joystick interfaces occupied some RAM space just after video memory so BASIC programs were located at different address.
    7. Re:So did Sinclair ZX80 by jsveiga · · Score: 1

      RAND USR!

      That was the thing! POKE the opcodes into the REM line, then RAND USR!

      Man, that brings back tender, block-pixelized memories!

      Thanks!

    8. Re:So did Sinclair ZX80 by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 1
      I just hung out at the local Radio Shaft when I was a kid and played with their "Level I." Before that, I played with the mainframe at the college.

      I discovered that flicking the power switch off and on quickly sometimes produced double-sized text on the screen, but only odd-numbered keystrokes were displayed. I found it funny that when I went to the next town's RS that had the Level II, the large text was an option that could be selected. The hardware was there, but the support wasn't unless you spent a few more bucks.

      Ooooh, just noticed this on the TRS-80 site: The Model 3 was Tandy's second personal computer. One of the reasons it was developed was because the FCC instituted regulations about the RF emissions generated by computers (and other electronic devices). The Model 1 was completely unshielded (a fact many owners who also like TV and/or radio discovered the hard way), and was unable to pass the emission restrictions.

      Interesting. I remember seeing the Model III but never a "Model II." I thought it was to avoid confusion with "Level II," but that site just educated me. Heh heh.

      Anyway, when I was older and able to get a machine, I got the Atari 800. That computer could also produce tones on an AM radio, but by the time I learned 6502 Assembler, I was more concerned with the undocumented POKEY chip features like combining two channels for 16-bit sound, having direct control over the speaker voltage level (such as the "ET phone home" spoken on the game cartridge,) and my personal favorite: the bit that lowers all output by one octave. (This may have contributed to what became my favorite instrument to play!)

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  32. Wow, cool. by gbobeck · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow, now this was cool...

    I'm waiting for /. coverage of my dog who can fart Beethoven.

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    1. Re:Wow, cool. by game+kid · · Score: 1

      Maybe your dog won't make it to Slashdot. If you can get that Windows XP search dog to do that, however, I'd consider you God.

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    2. Re:Wow, cool. by Schickie · · Score: 0

      Any Beethoven, all Beethoven, a scrambled mix of Beethoven or is there just a series of tones produced that simulate the word "Beethoven"??. Do try to be precise for chrissake, the hope and future of the nation log on to this site.

    3. Re:Wow, cool. by THESuperShawn · · Score: 1

      That's cool.

      My dog can burp the theme to Jaws. Well, the first note or two anyway.

      Her farts don;t make any noise. It would be much cooler if they did. The just stink so bad that even she leaves the room.

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    4. Re:Wow, cool. by Fordiman · · Score: 1

      I don't think I can get rover to fart anything coherent, but I'm certain I'll be able to make him fart. Give me two ticks and a shake.

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    5. Re:Wow, cool. by game+kid · · Score: 1

      Do try to be precise for chrissake, the hope and future of the nation log on to this site.

      You misspelled those we have lost all hope for. ;)

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    6. Re:Wow, cool. by gbobeck · · Score: 1

      We should get our dogs together and have them start a band.

      Any other burping/farting dog owners want to join?

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    7. Re:Wow, cool. by gbobeck · · Score: 1

      Baby steps... getting any output from there is a start in the right direction.

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  33. For the umlaut-challenged... by sczimme · · Score: 1


    Fuer Elise is also acceptable.

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    1. Re:For the umlaut-challenged... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Führer Elise is not.

  34. It's an E-Scanno... by PainBreak · · Score: 1

    But will it do the ultimate song? Boston's "More Than A Feeling"?

  35. Really FM? by Bromskloss · · Score: 0

    Are you sure that wasn't AM? FM seems a little far-fetched. I have tried some program on my calculator (also a Z80 btw) that let's you play on the keys and listen in you AM radio.

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  36. that's nothing by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

    The same guy also made slashdot out of paper and crayon

    1. Re:that's nothing by masterpenguin · · Score: 1

      theres also the symphony for dotmatrix 28 minuites of nonstop printing fun

      http://www.sat.qc.ca/the_user/dotmatrix/en/intro.h tml

    2. Re:that's nothing by Mancat · · Score: 1

      Hey, it looks just like the real thing! I couldn't tell the difference!

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    3. Re:that's nothing by cnettel · · Score: 1

      Sure you can, this is an obvious fake. Ok, it's kind of good visually, but NO DUPES. Who do they think they are kidding?

    4. Re:that's nothing by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry but this was just too funny: "Toenail powered Apache webserver".

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  37. And in related news by Billosaur · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    New HD-DVD hard drives will also be able to make pancakes.

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  38. Re:MP3 of Renault Making Music - Formula 1 Engine by direwulf · · Score: 0

    That definitely takes the cake over the scanner.

  39. hmm by towsonu2003 · · Score: 0

    does it print linux?

    1. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A ScanJet is not a printer. It is a scanner.

    2. Re:hmm by towsonu2003 · · Score: 0

      hence my point ;)

  40. Beautiful old beasts, but beware the SCSI errors.. by DigitalDreg · · Score: 1

    Wonderful old scanners .. I paid $700 for mine way back when. I'm still using it eight years later, on a Linux machine because HP won't update the drivers to work on newer Windoze operating systems.

    However, they have some nasty problems. Mine keeps causing errors on the SCSI bus, which is very hard to recover from. Apparently even with the cheap supplied ISA SCSI card (Sym53416?) and HP cabling, it still throws a lot of errors. Under Windows the errors were handled pretty transparently. Fedora Core 2 throws a hissy fit .. you need to reboot the system because just simply rescanning the SCSI bus or unloading/reloading the module won't clean it up.

  41. Extremely neat... by ursabear · · Score: 1

    I think it is great that folks think like this. Innovation comes from places that aren't often trod. If you think about it, this type of non-mainstream thinking gave us Lexan(tm) and Post-It(tm) notes.

    "Everything is musical if you give it a chance(tm)."

  42. how old is this? by weierstrass · · Score: 3, Informative

    yesterday, this link was posted in a comment as part of the discussion to a story "guy makes scanner out of optical mouse". a couple of other posts pointed out that hackaday.com has lots more stuff like this.
    today it makes the front page.
    slow news day?

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  43. The USER and Xenophonics by fantoma · · Score: 2, Informative
  44. What year is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you kidding? This is SO OLD. If you even have one of these scanners still, you probably haven't seen the internet yet, or this posting... Odd choice of stories.

  45. Video doctored? by nickull · · Score: 1

    I am an eternal pragmatist. Any chance someone is playing a simple joke on us all and has actually doctored the sanner/printer video using a simple tool like Anvil studio? It wouldn't be that hard and the thought of thousands of people spending half their Monday trying to reproduce it *is* pretty funny. IN fact, I am ROTFL now.

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    1. Re:Video doctored? by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

      I'm telling you this on the internet so it must be true.

      A friend of mine (who magically turned in to my brother-in-law) told me a lot of years ago, brought the scanner over and showed me, it was cute :)

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  46. Too Much Spare Time... by Bushido+Hacks · · Score: 2, Funny

    I still belive that the dogs barking Fur Esles (sp) is more entertaining.

    Don't kow about the dogs? Google it! It is probably on the same site as dogs barking Jingle Bells.

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    1. Re:Too Much Spare Time... by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

      Is this just audio? If so, it's not amazing at all -- many Korg-brand keyboards can emulate dog barks. Just buy one and play Bagatelle in A minor as normal.

  47. You young whippersnappers... by zoeblade · · Score: 1

    ...when I was a kid, we used to make music on dot matrix printers.

  48. This is my favorite kind of hack... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

    It doesn't really do anything practically useful, but something you ordinarily wouldn't think of. I always think they're the funnest kind of hack to pull off.

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  49. Now let's start a band... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The switch on beeps from a BBC.
    The head of a printer.
    The disc driver whirring.

    Sounds like a record to me...

    Oh, I forgot, it's already been done: http://www.bluedust.com/pub/mp3/Demonstration/My%2 0BBC.mp3

    1. Re:Now let's start a band... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That rocks :)

  50. And robots by ContemporaryInsanity · · Score: 1

    A couple of years ago I developed a 4DOF robot for the pharmaceutical industry for testing blister packs for child resistance & QA purposes. With four variable speed steppers, a few Friday afternoons worth of coding had it playing four part harmonies. A couple of solenoids and some pneumatics provided basic percussion. It was quite possibly the neatest useless thing I've ever done.

  51. Old news: this was reported in the HP Journal! by rsclient · · Score: 3, Interesting

    HP was happy enough about this that their old "HP Journal" -- a monthly tech. magazine that would go in-depth into HP technology -- had an entire sidebar about the exact escape sequences needed to play the music. It was a sad day when they stopped publication; it was a fun read.

    The same issue had, as its cover story, an article about how strap-on heart monitors work. Very cool, and the cover picture, of a small baby with a monitor on its foot, was striking. The same technology was put onto my oldest several years later when she was in the hospital right after being born.

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  52. Feh! Kids! by DG · · Score: 1

    You had a tape drive?

    *Luxury*

    If *we* wanted to make music, we had to write PL/1 code that would overdrive the IBM 026 card punch while hand-feeding it rolls of paper towel (the old bleached white thick stuff too, none of this modern namby-pamby recycled "natural finish" crap neither) to generate Duo-Art player piano reels!

    We used to *dream* of having tape drives!

    DG

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    1. Re:Feh! Kids! by kgbspy · · Score: 1

      Who'd've thought, 30 year ago, we'd all be sittin' here listenin' to music on pocket sized 40gb hard drives...

      Luxury!!

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  53. Re:My S100 8080 had star trek sound effects! by citabjockey · · Score: 1

    My IMSAI 8080 S100 system used to have phaser and warp drive sound effects. No sound card -- way to hard. Just set an AM radio next to the machine while playing the game and tune so you can hear the RF broadcasting off the bus. Actually sounded similar to the effects on the star trek show!

  54. Band which uses old computers/printers etc... by 32bitwonder · · Score: 2, Informative

    The band treewave uses old computers, game consoles and an Epson LQ500 as their instruments. I find it amazing what they can do with old equipment like this.

    1. Re:Band which uses old computers/printers etc... by trybywrench · · Score: 1

      The band treewave [treewave.com] uses old computers, game consoles and an Epson LQ500 as their instruments. I find it amazing what they can do with old equipment like thi

      i catch them live whenever i can here in Dallas. Their cd has a track that you're suppose to record onto tape and use in a c64. It's a snyth. they wrote or something.

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  55. TRS-80 click by The+Conductor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A similar techinique was used by the LeScript word processor in the TRS-80 model 3/4. The cassette relay clicked on the keystroke to simulate typewiter sound. If I remember correctly, the device independent I/O on the model 4 (TRSDOS 6) permitted inserting a filter on the keyboard input so you could click in any program, or insert the click-filter on the serial port and have your Compuserve input click like a TTY. A cool but useless hack.

  56. In Canada... by 4889 · · Score: 1
    While record-shopping a few years ago I happened upon an interesting little export from the Arts Council of Canada or something like that which was 8 or so tracks of 10 Dot matrix printers in concert. I think it was all read from text files of repeated letters... it was mostly percussive, which isn't to say that it's any less interesting... anyway the dudes that performed it still have their site up here

    interestingly enough, the site is just old enough that one of them has a rant on the viability of the "forthcoming" DVD format and surround sound.

  57. This is not just old news. This is ultra-old news by LanceUppercut · · Score: 1

    How old stuff has to get in order to be posted on Slashdot as something new and "amazing"? Ability of HP scanners to play music is, like, first thing you know when you start working with HP scanners. In the 90's HP scanners even came with HP-supplied utility called "HP Jukebox" and a couple of "music" files that could be played on stepper motor. Later they stopped shipping the utility, but the "feature" was always there. And now you have people on Slashdot who never heard about it? That's what's actually amazing...

  58. So will the RIAA impose a Music Levy Tax because this device can play copyrighted music?

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  59. man or astro-man? by rsw · · Score: 1

    The band Man or Astro-Man? used to perform a song onstage called "a simple text file" which involved bringing out an Apple ImageWriterII, setting up a microphone, and letting it play. It's actually a pretty good song.

    1. Re:man or astro-man? by LightningBolt! · · Score: 1

      Yes! One of the best live bands ever. The last time I saw them, the printer was busted, so no Simple Text File. But they had PC keyboards modified with an extension arm and a strap so they could hold them like guitars. And they were actually playing them as instruments. Too bad they're not around anymore.

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    2. Re:man or astro-man? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google "Operation reinformation" (hell, I'll do it... It's http://www.reinformation.com/ ). Not as rockin' as Man or Astro-Man, but a lot of fun (I like the album "CTRL" a lot), plus they wrote the RealBasic software that MOAM used to do the keyboard sample-playing. I'm not sure they're around anymore either (at least, not actively), but at their shows you could get a CD of music, a 3.5" floppy of *a little* music, or the software to make your own.

  60. Straying from the topic a bit.... by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    Transformer di Roboter used the Mac boot chime in their cover of Michael Jackson's Stranger in Moscow.

  61. Für Elise by kindbud · · Score: 1

    Why did Ludwig write this awful piece?
    It was not free
    Of that I'm sure.
    The money, all in cash, came from Elise
    Thus it was she
    He wrote it Für.

    (sung to the tune of Für Elise, of course)

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  62. Bought the $999 ScanJet 4c for a song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    And if you run out of desk space, it does a pretty good lap dance as well.

    1. Re:Bought the $999 ScanJet 4c for a song by fastgood · · Score: 1
      if you run out of desk space, it does a pretty good lap dance

      Only if it has the non-passive SCSI version on the back end.

  63. Yes... and theres a program on the OEM CD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the disk/cds that come with the scanjet 4c, there is actually a program to play music. IT is not installed by default, but you can run it straight of the CD.

  64. IBM 1403 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The IBM 1403 http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/1403.html was immediately programmed to play music. It was a chain printer so the time between successive hammer hits depended on the letter sequence.

  65. First saw this back in 1983 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My younger brother did this way back in 1983 on a flat bed plotter driven by a dedicated mechanical CAD system. The plotter table was about 6 feet by 5 feet, and had a multi pen head that traversed the 6 foot X axis beam, which translated across the Y axis by drivers on each end. All stepper motors. Being that you could dither X as well as Y axis depending on the curve you were drawing, it presented 2 note polyphonic. Tones were fun, but the rhythm capabilities were far more interesting. The whole assembly was heavy, so the SPL was fairly high. You didn't need any amplification to hear it six or eight feet away. It gave a very good effect of a DJ with two turntables (but no microphone...).

    He generally reserved time at night when the lab was empty, but on more then one occasion had a small audience of students using the lab that stood there staring at the plotter in "WtF !?!??!?" mode. The shapes it drew were fun to look at afterward. He used to change pen colors along the way (multi pen head) so that you could track shapes to sounds. (Oooooo, that 'red' track is excellent!) He finished a two year product and machine design program, then after working in the mechanical CAD field for a couple years, found his muse and went back to school for a BFA. He is still involved in product design as a mechanical engineer doing CAD for analysis and design. He is also still painting. I don't think he is making plotters sing anymore.

    Is there anyone on this list that was at SUNY Alfred in 1983 that might have witnessed one of these events?

    So if you are reading this little bro', I am proud to be your big brother. You were plowing new ground before anybody had any idea what you were up to.

  66. Temperature Monitor and a G5 by adrew · · Score: 1

    The Mac OS X utility Hardware Monitor can play a tune on the G5's power supply by controlling the amount of load on the processors. Apparently the power supply makes different sounds depending on the load on it.

    http://www.bresink.de/osx/HardwareMonitor.html

  67. IBM 1130 + Punch Cards + Transistor Radio = Music! by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    The big old IBM hardware used to put out enough RF to produce sounds from a transistor radio placed on top. Carefully crafted loops in PL/1 code on punch cards would produce an amazing variety of music.

    We used to impress visitors at my high school's open house with this trick until the Apple ][ and Commodore PET arrived.

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  68. Mod parent up... by Slashcrap · · Score: 1

    ...because otherwise you're admitting that you don't get the joke :)

  69. Sounds interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now let's see you be able to press a button to scan sheet music and play that as it scans......

  70. Mirror by linuxpyro · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a mirror in case it goes down: http://slashdot.whatsmykarma.com/scanjet-elise2.mp g.

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  71. My HP 5P plays "Ode to Joy" from Beethoven's 9. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the Beethoven's Symphony No. 9, last part, which is music for the poem "Ode to Joy" ("An die Freude").
    It is also EU anthem.

  72. Industrial motors can (probably) play music, too by Dachannien · · Score: 1

    When I was at my old co-op job at an industrial controls manufacturing company, back in the days before I decided to become a professional student, one of the guys out on the shop floor told me quite a few stories about interesting things that happened there over the years. One of these stories was about a guy who took a handheld tape recorder, recorded himself saying something, and then hooked the output up as a trim to the torque control for a 100hp industrial motor. He started up the motor and brought it to speed, and then hit play on the tape recorder. Apparently, you could actually hear his voice coming from the motor as the torque adjustments caused it to vibrate.

    Of course, other stories I heard included a motor throwing a chunk of the rotor into the shop ceiling three storeys up, or another motor coming unbolted from the floor while it was spinning up and chasing a guy across the shop. Yeah, I can't confirm that any of them were true since they all happened years ago, but they were all funny :)

  73. 2000? How about the Manhattan Project? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1
    I remember a scene in the movie Infinity starring Matthew Broderick as a young Richard Feynman at the Manhattan Project, briefing some young scientists (graduate students?) to be on the lookout for the "unexpected" in their work. He then walks over to a machine that resembles a line printer and turns it on. Broderick looks at the students and smiles, and they look back quizzically until one of them recognizes the "tune" the printer is playing and sings along:

    In my arms
    In my arms
    Will I never get a girl in my arms...

    Maybe the story is apocryphal, but it would seem to fit the technology of the time, and Feynman's sense of humour.
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  74. Re:Marry Had a Little Lamb... Did it sound by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    like a baby?

    Susan "'had' a 19 oz baby" (boy or girl, doesn't matter).

    Mary had a little lamb. I wonder if she gave birth to it.

    I had a single 84 oz steak. I felt bloated as hell. Spent the night strapped to the toilet. Strange musical emanations....

    Oh, wait, she "possessed" a little lamb.

    But, did she make it do "evil things"?

    (had, ate, possessed, owned... boy the way words can be stretch when out of context, (nevermind having heard the tune as a kid... I never liked the damned song anyway...))

    OK, back to listening to the bubble-gum Roller Girl "I Keep on Rolling" song...

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  75. I hate to say it... by Shrug · · Score: 0

    I hate to say it, but when I bought my 4c many many a year ago it actually came with the software. I believe it had Fur Elise and a few others already attatched.

  76. Re:IBM 1130 + Punch Cards + Transistor Radio = Mus by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    There was a commercial version of the classic Star Trek game, for the TRS-80 model I, that had an explicit feature of RFI sound effects. You could get better computer music with RFI on those things than any other method :-) Desperate for any electronic music instrument, I did a composition that used recordings of TRS-80 RFI and cassette port sounds (and cassette relay buzzes). My philistine high school music teacher didn't understand, so my pioneering work was graded poorly and forgotten. :-)

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  77. My TRS-80 Model 1 could do that! by mks113 · · Score: 1

    The Z80 processor in it run at about 1.2 MHz, overwhelming any AM radio within spitting distance. Someone realized that you could use that "bug" as a feature, and included sound effects in Space Invaders by putting an AM radio next to the computer. Any frequency would do...

    Later I typed in a Basic program (we had a tape drive but no floppy) and played the theme from this great big hit movie from a couple years before -- Star Wars.

    That was 1980. I was in 9th grade. Yeah, I'm feeling old.

  78. Oscillations are sounds, silly. by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    Anything that can be made to vibrate at controlled frequencies between say, 30Hz and 4kHZ, can make music. I guess what's interesting here, is that things that don't have a direct means of controlling their frequency, have interesting hacks that lead to indirect control. That's cool, I guess. It's a tradition that goes back further than the old line-printer art. Really impressive would be a line-printer art that both played a tune AND printed an interesting picture, especially if the tune and picture were related.

    But nothing hit me as hard as some of the speech output from 8-bit machines that barely had sound output capabilities at all. That's up there with the tricks people used to deliver the impression of more colors than were "possible" on certain machines, or the really impressive things that were done within the limits of 128x64 graphics, or even *no* graphics.

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  79. Huge HDD Requirement by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

    Has anyone else had a problem with their HP Scanjet drivers requiring multiple GB of space with no option to install only a few MB? Surely the drivers do not need 4 GB of space on my HDD, but when I choose to install the drivers, there it is -- taking up 4 GB of space while presenting me with no options to pare down the install size. My old Mutek scanner I had 10 years ago scanned faster and took up a few megs of space with drivers at the most.

    1. Re:Huge HDD Requirement by DaveInAZ · · Score: 1

      It's the sheet music files. They're HUUUUGE!

  80. Renault F1 motor plays Queen... by droptop · · Score: 1

    I can't remember if I found it here or not... But recently, I came across an mp3 of a Renault F1 motor "playing" "We are the Champions" by Queen. If you have any mechanical sympathy at all, F1 engines at full song make your teeth hurt, but here the engineers programed the powertrain management computer to vary the rpm's to make music. With their virtually weightless flywheels, those things can pick up and drop rps's almost instantly. I'll see if I can dig up the mp3.

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    1. Re:Renault F1 motor plays Queen... by DaveInAZ · · Score: 1
      Some Anonymous Coward already had a link to it, above. And, yes, it DOES make my teeth hurt.
      Renault did something similar to celebrate their world championship win with the RS25 V10 Formula 1 engine - http://www.renaultf1.com/en/car/engine/index.php?n ews=tcm:3-41673 [renaultf1.com]
  81. Quick, call the lawyers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other news, the RIAA, ASCAP and BMI have filed a joint lawsuit against HP for copyright infringement.

    Lawyers for the plaintiffs stated: "We believe HP has attempted to deliberately circumvent the Digital Millennium Copyright Act by manufacturing a device (printer) that includes the means to to perform and playback copyrighted songs without the consent or permission of the copyright holder."

    "Furthermore" the plaintiffs allege, "HP has tried to conceal it's illegal music reproduction device by disguising it as a computer printer. We are asking the court for an order barring HP from further sales of it's "printer" and payment of royalties in the amount of 800 million dollars.

    "We will not tolerate the manufacturer of devices whose overall purpose is to bypass copyright protection for copyright holders of music. We believe illegal distribution of copyrighted material on sound reproduction devices such as HP's "printer" harkens the next generation of illegal music distribution as the successor to illegal file sharing programs."

  82. ScanJet 4p song in firmware by kisielk · · Score: 3, Informative

    My ScanJet 4p has "Ode to Joy" embedded in the firmware. If you set the SCSI channel to 0 and hold the green "scan" button on the front while switching on the power, it will play. I always thought this was a neat easter egg..

    1. Re:ScanJet 4p song in firmware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Confirmed on ScanJet 5p.

      Excellent find :)

    2. Re:ScanJet 4p song in firmware by OzoneLad · · Score: 1

      IIRC, it wasn't an Easter egg, it was a quick-and-dirty over-the-phone diagnostics tool for HP techs. If your scanner couldn't play the song, it was likely physically hosed. -HT

    3. Re:ScanJet 4p song in firmware by kisielk · · Score: 1

      Hm, that's an interesting theory, haven't heard that idea before. I just saw this in a forum or newsgroup some years back and thought it was likely just a result of bored engineers.

  83. I knew about this a looong time ago.. by doctorjay · · Score: 1

    No one believed me hehe.. I had a HP Scan jet, and when I unplugged the power cable, and held down the scan button, and plugged in the power cable it played classical music.. The name of the song escapes me but its quite famous. Try it!

  84. Funkytown!... by doctorjay · · Score: 1

    Did anyone see that South park ep where towlie played the tune to funkytown on the keypad?? HOW do you do that..

  85. Many more songs.. by doctorjay · · Score: 1

    www.sayyad.ca/phonesongs.html

    But still no funky town :( .. if anyone knows the sequece please fill me in .. thanks.

    1. Re:Many more songs.. by Gaewyn+L+Knight · · Score: 1
      From that URL:

      August 23rd - CHECK IT OUT I found out how to play Funkytown (just like Towelie in that South Park episode!):

      55754 45085 (simple, oui?)
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  86. The old Palantir scanners could do Wagner by karl.auerbach · · Score: 1

    The old Palantir scanners - mid 1980s- would play Wagner's Ride of the Vulkuries on the stepper motors during the self-test. It was really amazing and went on for quite a long time increasing in intensity and complexity.

    But along with the original Internet toasters (two implementations in 1987) the Palantir scanners seem to have vanished.

  87. Got rid of my 3c... by Animaether · · Score: 1

    ..because it wouldn't run under Windows 98. That's right, there were no drivers for the SCSI card that came with the 3c beyond Windows 95. You could purchase a SCSI card from a third party vendor with which it should work.

    I said 'screw that' and purchased a whole new flatbed scanner for only slightly more, much later
    ( I actually got it running under 98 by disabling the DOS device drivers - but it was quite flakey; only scanned once in a series of attempts. )

    That said.. I miss the 3c. It was relatively fast and quiet. This new one's fairly noisy; but faster, much higer actual resolution, can scan film and slides properly, and I can get 16bit color output from it.
    But still.. I miss the 3c.

    Makes me wish I'd kept it around - just to sell to one of you Linux people, though ;)

  88. We are the Champions a la Renault F1 Engine by doctorjay · · Score: 1

    To celebrate their 2005 F1 championship victory, and the last race for the V10 engines, the Renault team persuaded one of their V10's to sing! The solo performance of the Queen classic "We are the Champions" was performed by one of Renault's RS25 V10 engines at the teams dyno testing facility in France.

    RS25 project leader Axel Plasse, explained that making an engine "sing" is a fairly simple matter of finding the engine rpm that generates an exhaust sound of the right frequency for each musical note. The engine management system of the dyno is then programmed to manage engine rpm and duration to "sing the song."

    http://www.renaultf1.com/en/binaries/RS25_WeAreThe Champion_tcm3-41644.mp3

  89. Re:OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how is this offtopic? i would at least say -1 Troll, but Offtopic? Come on, i think its time i turn my mod points back on, it was so annoying getting week after week i turned it off.

  90. Old news... by zoontf · · Score: 1

    This information has been available on various easter-egg lists for a long time.

    It works fine with my SJ5 as well...

  91. DEC PDP-8/I + Radio by mahtobedis · · Score: 1

    In the 70's, there was an old DECUS (Digital Equipment Computer Users' Society) program that could play four part tunes on a transistor radio placed near the console of a DEC PDP-8/I minicomputer. It didn't matter what channel the radio was tuned to. I always assumed it was something to do with the ferrite cores (each bit visible to the eye) making up the memory. One of the tunes that came with the package was Air on a G String, in the manner of Walter/Wendy Carlos's Switched on Bach. The fidelity was not bad.

  92. Which is why I bought a Canon scanner! by wolverine1999 · · Score: 1

    Because I want to scan stuff, not play silly music!
    I want my scanner to be good at scanning not at other stuff...

  93. Not true! by jd · · Score: 1

    You can do perfectly good single-channel music on the PET, by cycling the status pin on the serial port, then placing a radio near it. You could also use the SoundBox, which IIRC plugged into the serial port, but it really came to the same thing.

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    1. Re:Not true! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Hmm, if I hadn't sold it to a collecter 6 years ago, I would try it (who knew a PET would sell for $8k in '99?). Although, I think my efforts as an 8-yo weren't half bad :)

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  94. ZX81 creating sound ... by Yojimbo-San · · Score: 1

    Correct, the ZX80 had no sound chip, but the video output was on a standard TV VHF channel. IIRC it could only drive the screen while waiting for keyboard input, and stopped the signal while calculating. The change in display mode would cause 'noise' from the TV - but it was very difficult to control.

    The ZX81 improved matters slightly, you could elect to run the machine in FAST mode, which switched off the display under control of your BASIC or Z80 assembler program. Do enough mode switches, and your 'noise' becomes 'sound', and eventually 'music' :-)

    There were plenty of programs published for the ZX81 to allow it to make music using this side-effect of the TV. So your memory is pretty much correct, it's possible (I didn't use a ZX80, so I can't say it was definately possible there, but it definately worked on a ZX81)

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    1. Re:ZX81 creating sound ... by witte · · Score: 1

      I used it as a drum computer when it ate my program code up for the 20th time and choked. Does that count ?

  95. tree wave by TheGreatGraySkwid · · Score: 1

    Y'all need to check out tree wave, a Dallas band that makes really compelling music using C64s and dot matrix printers.

    Their single "Sleep" has been in my playlist for years.

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  96. Tree Wave did this with a dot-matrix printer... by wikthemighty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...some time ago.

    Check them out here

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  97. Mod parent up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes, modding away.

  98. Christmas Tunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is hardly new. Back in 1997, I remember being "treated" by a friend to a selection of Christmas carols played on an HP scanner.

  99. Snap by jd · · Score: 1
    Well, almost. I was 8 at the time I got my hands on a PET 3032. The sound trick was one I learned from one of the guys at Oxford Computer Systems, who sold the PETSpeed compiler. (Somewhere, I still have the sticky labels and demo pack, though I seem to remember doing VERY nasty things to the Dragon BASIC compiler, which was utter carp.) They had some demo sounds on their computer, but the proof of the pudding was getting the full, glorious sound effects from Commodore's space invaders.


    The VICE emulator supports the sound system and documents how it worked, though, so you can still re-create those bygone days.

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  100. Re:IBM 1130 + Punch Cards + Transistor Radio = Mus by Two99Point80 · · Score: 1

    Likewise my Processor Technology SOL-20, which I got new in 1977 for a small fortune. IIRC its Star Trek game had sound effects which showed up in a correctly-placed AM radio...

  101. "Anchors Aweigh" on chain printer by Two99Point80 · · Score: 1

    I got to hear that sometime in the mid-1970s. Stirring.

  102. Built In Feature on ScanJet by majikfox · · Score: 0

    Some Scanjets will play a tune if you hold the Scan button while powering on.

  103. Oscillations IN AIR are sounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry to be picky, but you actually have to translate the vibrations into variations in air pressure in order to hear them. Of course, if the "vibration" is of a physical object in air, then the job is done. But if it's in an electronic circuit then you need a loudspeaker.

    Anyway, my point is that lots of things oscillate, but they have to oscillate in air for us to hear them.

    1. Re:Oscillations IN AIR are sounds by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      Fair enough... I've been doin so much softsynth and DSP related stuff, I think of the oscillations in a theoretical domain. But you're right.

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  104. Cigarette shaft by Pseudonymus+Bosch · · Score: 1

    drive it lengthwise down the center of a cigarette so the ash wouldn't fall off while he was smoking

    A similar story is told of Winston Churchill.

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  105. Someother slashdot stories about noisy things... by JoshRoss · · Score: 1

    Here is a story about dot matrix printers. And, the number one ranked comment was from a guy named matticus, who writes about Ode to Joy with his scanjet. Here is another link too someone elses easter egg.

  106. HOW on Earth does anyone have time for this? by RamblerRandy · · Score: 1

    I'm always swamped with work to do whether employed or NOT and desperate for money and yet all this dipwads have time for this?

    Sheesh! I wish I was so well employed! Right now I'm fighting for housing and hoping I can keep a job if I can ever get one again!

    "Oh! Your too disabled to work here!" and other B.S. disguised by: "we found someone more qualified".

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    1. Re:HOW on Earth does anyone have time for this? by ContemporaryInsanity · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry if I'm lucky enough to work at a R&D establishment where we occassionaly have time to get creative. I also wish you were so well employed. If it's any consolation to you I suffer from clinical depression, so yes, my life sucks too - BIG TIME. Life's a bitch 'n all that...

      '"Oh! Your too disabled to work here!" and other B.S. disguised by: "we found someone more qualified".'

      If it's just excuses they're giving you then get more qualified. For what it's worth I have no formal qualifications whatsoever, unless you count my BSC (Bronze Swimming Certificate).

    2. Re:HOW on Earth does anyone have time for this? by RamblerRandy · · Score: 1

      Thanks.

      I'm still trying to find "entry level" positions while I go for a BA degree that seems to be "required". BTW I'm 46. Not one of this dipstick kids these days that have an 'easy' time getting jobs if they just knew what I know about job hunting!!!

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  107. Fun with a 1541 drive... by allanj · · Score: 1

    Back when I was in high school a C64 with a 1541 drive was the latest and greatest (yeah, I'm THAT old). Most of us couldn't afford getting one, and the first guy to get one was a *TOTAL* ass. So we made a small program, disguised it as a fun game and gave it to him. All it did was to bang the drive head against the barriers as fast as possible, which destroyed alignment after about 300 iterations or so. Since he could not figure out how to align it himself, he had to go to the store and pay for it. The REALLY fun part was that he did it repeatedly, and never wised up to the fact that the program was bogus - he thought it was defective instead :-)

    Somewhat evil I guess - but that's just how it works in highschool...

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