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Hot Pepper Kills Prostate Cancer

brian0918 writes "U.S. and Japanese researchers have announced results of a study showing that capsaicin, the chemical that makes peppers hot, can cause prostate cancer cells to kill themselves. 'Capsaicin led 80 percent of human prostate cancer cells growing in mice to commit suicide in a process known as apoptosis, the researchers said.' This led to tumors one fifth the size of those in untreated mice."

401 comments

  1. In other news... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news, cause for Mexican-food flatulence not determined yet.

    1. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Not so. Frijoles, known to be destined for gringo intestines, were not soaked overnight.

      Simple and effective. Google for Aztlan, sometime...

    2. Re:In other news... by ePhil_One · · Score: 1
      Not so. Frijoles, known to be destined for gringo intestines, were not soaked overnight.

      Somehow I doubt soaking has any effect on the huge sugar molecules ("oligosaccharide") that causes the Tummy MUsic per Alton Brown.

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    3. Re:In other news... by PakProtector · · Score: 1
      Google for Aztlan, sometime

      Sorry, my bosses at Ren-Raku would kill me if I did that.

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    4. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      1: Flatulance in mexican food is caused by the combination of large quantities of protien and carbs, which due to varying digestive processes, leads to a reaction that causes farting. Mexican food is almost devoid of fat, save for vegitable oils and cheese which further the problem along. Asian diet is the same; it's only european diet, with it's milk and cattle, that has the large amounts of fat and has for the most part, infected old world cuisines. New world quisine: meatball sub with cheese. Old world quisine: Meatball sub with lettuce, spinach, tomato slices, olives, green peppers, onion, and mabye some green olives for flavor (packed and eaten; it's basically a compressed salad).

      2: Capsaicin basically causes the blood vessels to dialate, which increases blood flow. You'll notice how people with heavy diets of fat and protien don't get sick when they eat Capsaicin/hot food; that's because the constriction and dialation of the blood vessels free's up blocked up cholesterol, causes the heart to work harder, makes the kidney's healthier from consistant cleaning out, and most importantly, the extra blood flow causes every cell in the body to dump toxins. But will doctors tell us that capsaicin can drop your cholesterol level to far healthier levels in weeks? Gotta sell those pills.

      Cayenne pepper has the largest amount of Capsaicin known per pound, it's pepper of which is almost all Capsaicin. If you want a good cleaning, all you need to do is make a tea out of it, chug it down, cough for an hour and then go to bed; it causes a really nice warm fuzzy tingly feeling all over the body. It has other uses too, like increasing the affect of other things you take several fold.

    5. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And in yet other news: Red Hot Chilli Peppers' website became unreacheable after this story appeared on /.

    6. Re:In other news... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Somehow I doubt soaking has any effect on the huge sugar molecules ("oligosaccharide") that causes the Tummy MUsic per Alton Brown.

      Oligosaccharides aren't that huge. That's what oligo means, "a few" (think oligopoly). Oligosaccharides are small enough to be solubilized when you soak your beans overnight. Change the water and you're rid of most of them. You also lose a lot of your vitamins too.

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    7. Re:In other news... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Mexican food is almost devoid of fat

      You're kidding, right? Lard is the secret to
      authentic mexican food.

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    8. Re:In other news... by Topherbyte · · Score: 1

      ehhh... on the flatulence front I can confidently report that the human intestine lacks the enzyme necessary to fully digest beans. Hence Bean-o. Tasteless, and it works. However, not recommended if you really enjoy the nighttime-warming-effect and then pulling the covers up right by your spouse's face.

      On the health front, I did read some years ago that Mexicans do indeed have a lower incidence of esophageal, gastrointestinal, and colorectal cancers -- however I'm unable to find the source of that info. :(

    9. Re:In other news... by serutan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Beer lowers your risk of heart disease and stroke, hot peppers kill cancer...
      The world just keeps getting better and better!

    10. Re:In other news... by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1

      After years of experimentation, I now cook beans in a pressure cooker for about 1.5 hours. They are so cooked they are falling apart, and they don't have musical powers.

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  2. Great... Just Great. by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know about the rest of you, but the idea of Habanero suppositories just does not sit well with me...

    (I can hear Johnny Cash singing "Ring of Fire"...)

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    1. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to rip off comments from fark.com

    2. Re:Great... Just Great. by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 1

      Try shaving (not your face) and glancing over at the aftershave bottle, "hmm that might be soothing" and blanking out the next 10 minutes because of the horrible pain.

    3. Re:Great... Just Great. by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 1

      >does not sit well with me.

      Well put.

    4. Re:Great... Just Great. by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 1

      Funny - that's the song that was going through my mind when my wife gave birth to my children....

    5. Re:Great... Just Great. by Olmy's+Jart · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uh... Actually... No...

      Fail that remedial biology? Your prostate is nowhere (topologically) near your asshole. Wrong path. It would have to go up and back down again. Large and small intestine vs bladder and urethra. Shorter route would be through your stomache. Of course, the other alternative is worse... Far worse...

    6. Re:Great... Just Great. by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fail that remedial biology? Your prostate is nowhere (topologically) near your asshole. Wrong path. It would have to go up and back down again. Large and small intestine vs bladder and urethra. Shorter route would be through your stomache. Of course, the other alternative is worse... Far worse...

      Fail that remedial comedy? Your funny bone is nowhere (topologically) near your asshole. But then, I hear there is a great deal of confusion between asses and elbows sometimes. ;)

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    7. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate to ask this, but have you by any chance found suppositories REALLY painful and difficult to cram in there?

      If so, umm, you might want to consult the directions on them...

    8. Re:Great... Just Great. by sasdrtx · · Score: 1

      My experience is that hot peppers ingested the usual way survive the trip down and out with no loss of potency. No need for a suppository unless you're just in a hurry.

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    9. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you mean all those prostate exams are fun the docs pleasure as there is no real way to feel it?

    10. Re:Great... Just Great. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "Fail that remedial comedy? Your funny bone is nowhere (topologically) near your asshole. But then, I hear there is a great deal of confusion between asses and elbows sometimes. ;) "

      Mr. Flibble wins. FATALITY

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    11. Re:Great... Just Great. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "hmm that might be soothing"

      had you never used after shave?

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    12. Re:Great... Just Great. by utlemming · · Score: 4, Funny

      I once entered myself into a hot pepper festival in Texas. It was a painful experience. All the contestants started out with a red pepper and then worked their way up the famed Habanero. By the time you reached the Habanero your mouth is on fire, your stomach is upset and you want to shoot yourself. I thought that the pain was over once my mouth was done burning. No. About four hours latter I had what I can only describe as the "Bunghole of Fire." My room mate knocked on the door to ask if I was okay. Apparently the screams pain hinted that something was not quite right in the bathroom. So your comment brought back memories. Thanks. I didn't need that....

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    13. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you're getting your remedial comedy lessons from Fark

    14. Re:Great... Just Great. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      IN my experience, asshole is very close to humor.

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    15. Re:Great... Just Great. by gbobeck · · Score: 1
      But then, I hear there is a great deal of confusion between asses and elbows sometimes. ;)


      I also hear that there is a great deal of confusion between asses and holes in the ground too.
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    16. Re:Great... Just Great. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2, Funny
      Your prostate is nowhere (topologically) near your asshole.
      Ever wondered why some people like to be fucked in the ass? That's because the fucking dick rubs against the fucked prostate, and this enhances the orgasm the fuckee experiences. See for yourself.

      Of course, you don't have to use an actual penis to do this, a dildo will do fine.

    17. Re:Great... Just Great. by ticklemeozmo · · Score: 1

      Damn, what a choice. Either suffer through angry anus on the toilet from eating hot wings, or having Dr. Quack greasing up a finger or two. It's a lose-lose situation.

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    18. Re:Great... Just Great. by pilkul · · Score: 1

      "Jokes" which are based on misconceptions aren't funny, they're just stupid.

    19. Re:Great... Just Great. by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      While the habanero joke is funny....parent should be modded down. He ripped the joke off the headline of the Fark article which was posted earlier tonight. Plagiarizing is bad mmmk?

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    20. Re:Great... Just Great. by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      Comedy has to make sense to be funny. That joke was more Carrot-top than Jon Stewart.

    21. Re:Great... Just Great. by afidel · · Score: 1

      I had the same experience once. Went to an Indian place in LA recomended by the Indian bartender at the hotel. I asked for my curry Indian hot, and I got it. Felt good going down but the after-affects were enough to make me never want food that hot again.

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    22. Re:Great... Just Great. by kesuki · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just because you can 'feel' the prostrate through the anus, does not make it the shortest path to Bring a chemical in Direct contact with it. And technically, the shortest path is going to be straight up the urethra. ouch. if you eat capsacin some will pass the blood barrier membrane and through the cirulatory system to the prostate. enough to provide the kinds of results in this study? i don't think so, colon cancer, maybe. but they didn't prove that capsacin has an effect on colon cancer, only prostate cancer.

      Not a big shocker though, a poison in high concentrations caused cancer cells to die ;) a poison that normal cells have stronger resistance to, and FWIW, habanero's aren't going to do it for you, you should go out and buy some of those police sized peppper spray cans. Since they're technically a spray one Could attempt direct application, but I doubt that the 'burning sensation' would be worth it even if it could CURE the cancer instead of reduce tumour growth by 80%. pepper spray also makes a great burrito spice, if you like 'rolling on the floor crying to mommy burning hot' spicy.

    23. Re:Great... Just Great. by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Or being an idiot and using Nair to avoid dealing with a razor and blanking out for the next 5 hours in horrible pain. Felt like my skin came off with the hair.

      Whoops.

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    24. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to work on your diet so it hangs around a little longer. So lon as nothing rushes the process, the capsasin will be broken down / absorbed. But if you enjoy funky foods, didn't employ proper sanitation while prepping those wings, etc. you system might shift into high gear...

    25. Re:Great... Just Great. by Andrew+Clegg · · Score: 1, Funny

      I once entered myself into a hot pepper

      Maybe it's because of the article subject matter, but I read that as I once entered a hot pepper into myself for a moment. Ouch.

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    26. Re:Great... Just Great. by Dasein · · Score: 1

      We call that "The Ring of Fire".

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    27. Re:Great... Just Great. by linzeal · · Score: 1

      You can train your bottom to take the heat. I eat habenero sauce everyday when I am at home but when I go back to my mom's she has no hot sauce at all. When I get home the first week or so is "eventfull".

    28. Re:Great... Just Great. by nettdata · · Score: 1

      Yeah.. I did something similar... ended up having the longest shower of my life, and REALLY REALLY appreciated the hot-water-on-demand system my Dad had installed the year earlier.

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    29. Re:Great... Just Great. by Chemical · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh God. I know that story all too well. A friend of mine told me about a place that serves up something called the Habanero Hamburger. It's a burger smothered habanero sauce, made with meat marinated in habanero. If you can finish it, they'll take your picture and hang it on the wall. Before you're allowed to eat it, you have to sign some kind of liability waiver. I believed at the time I could handle this no problem. I thought my tolerance for jalapenos meant that tackling this would be a piece of cake. I guess I didn't really understand at the time what a habanero was. After one bite I was doing fine. After two I was still going strong. On the third bite it finally hit me and intense pain like nothing else overcame me, but I was determined to carry on. By the fifth bite however it was over. I was incapacitated, having eaten less than half the burger. I rode home lying down in the back of my friend's car, writhing in pain. I haven't been the same since, and this was years ago.

    30. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's a misconception, I'm afraid.

    31. Re:Great... Just Great. by Yer+Mom · · Score: 1
      pepper spray also makes a great burrito spice, if you like 'rolling on the floor crying to mommy burning hot' spicy.
      <homer>Mmm... incapacitating...</homer>
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    32. Re:Great... Just Great. by Alioth · · Score: 1

      I've been to the Pepper Festival in Palestine, TX. a couple of times. I always liked watching the chili eating contest. One year there was this dude, who looked like a 50-year old hippie. He was just about the last man standing, and was eating the habanero as if it was an apple. Most of the rest of the survivors were writing in pain by now. Of course, the guy fronting the contest was forcing them all to chew.

      I always wondered how hot the burning ring of fire would be when it had finally all passed through.

    33. Re:Great... Just Great. by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Mmm... carcinicidal...

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    34. Re:Great... Just Great. by FlyingPostman · · Score: 2, Funny

      What you need to do ahead of time is buy a pack of that wet wipes toilet paper and put them in the fridge before you go out and eat spicy food. In the morning take them out of the fridge and into the bathroom with you.

    35. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Fail that remedial biology? Your prostate is nowhere (topologically) near your asshole. Wrong path."

      IANAD but actually you are the one who is wrong. When you have your prostate examined (palpitated) for enlargement, the doctor does this by inserting a (hopefully lubricated and gloved) finger up the rectum. From this exam they can determine if the prostate tissue is smooth and not overly large which indicates a normal organ. You're right about the medication pathway, but not about the proximity of the prostate to the rectum.

      Of course, all of this still doesn't explain the fact that during the last time I had this exam, I felt both of the doctor's hands on my shoulders.

    36. Re:Great... Just Great. by RockModeNick · · Score: 1

      Really? I have very sensitive skin to most things, I can can leave nair on for nearly a half hour without any soreness and get total hair removal.

    37. Re:Great... Just Great. by frogephant · · Score: 1

      "Fail that remedial biology? Your prostate is nowhere (topologically) near your asshole. Wrong path. It would have to go up and back down again. Large and small intestine vs bladder and urethra. Shorter route would be through your stomache."

      The author of this comment must be either (a) female or (b) not old enough to be put through the annual indignity of a "digital rectal exam" of his prostate as part of an annual physical. For those unfamiliar with this procedure, it involves the doctor's inserting his finger up your rear in order to feel the top of your prostate through your rectum wall. It would be quite a long reach if he had to get at your prostate through your stomach!

    38. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats a two burner. One burners only burn going in :)

    39. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A smart person would take his sauce with him. What does that make you?

    40. Re:Great... Just Great. by dindi · · Score: 1

      In Hungary you call that "it is so hoe you feel it twice".... happens with good peppers :)

    41. Re:Great... Just Great. by Doctor+Memory · · Score: 1

      When my wife and I first started dating, she wouldn't believe why I kept a bottle of Windex next to the toilet.

      "No, seriously -- why do you keep that there?"

      My daughter learned quite early that when Mommy says something is spicy, it means it has cinnamon in it. When Daddy says something is spicy, it means it can be used to strip paint.

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    42. Re:Great... Just Great. by Suidae · · Score: 1

      So.. uh.. Whats the Windex for?

    43. Re:Great... Just Great. by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 0
      Fail that remedial biology?

      Well since you clearly passed advanced mathematics, maybe you'll explain the concept of distance as it applies in topology.
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    44. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your prostate is nowhere (topologically) near your asshole. Wrong path.

      Yes.

      It would have to go up and back down again. Large and small intestine vs bladder and urethra.

      No.

      Your doctor uses his/her finger to check the prostate, and most fingers are less than 4 inches long, which puts the prostate within 4 inches of the asshole.

      You specified topologically, which is a whole different kettle of fish. I am not qualified to argue the distinctions with you, but it would seem that, as the two systems are not connected internally at all unless you have some sort of fistula which is not a normal situation, or are a bird...), the only way to get from one to the other would be over the surface of the skin. I assume that is your "...worse...Far worse..."

      The actual path would be: Absorbed into blood stream from (mouth => esophagus => stomach => small intestine => large intestine), filtered by kidneys => ureters => bladder => urethra => seminal ducts (going 'upstream' here) => prostate.

      Physiologically, won't happen. Topologically, excluding the surface skin, the two systems are not interconnected.

    45. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (ob. MBFGW joke)

      he must be greek if he uses windex to cure, huh, a burning exit for his hot food.

      (that was a joke. if you don't get it, go watch "my big fat greek wedding")

    46. Re:Great... Just Great. by Doctor+Memory · · Score: 3, Funny

      It breaks down the capascin (sp?) oils that cause the burning. My roommate in college turned me on to this after walking in to the bathroom and finding me passed out in the tub with my ass under the cold water spigot*...

      * Helpful hint: on your first visit to a new restaurant, when they ask you how spicy you want your $FOOD, don't use the phrase "hurt me".

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    47. Re:Great... Just Great. by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      Strangely enough, I've NEVER had pepper "burn twice". Don't know what it is, but I can eat anything as spicy as I want (and I usually eat pretty spicy food) and never have to suffer the consequences :).

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    48. Re:Great... Just Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or a buttload of pain.

    49. Re:Great... Just Great. by Jerry · · Score: 1
      Your prostate is nowhere (topologically) near your asshole.


      Then most physicians who use their finger to palpatate your prostate via the rectal sphincter don't know what they are doing , eh? What do you think they are thumping, your backbone?

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    50. Re:Great... Just Great. by BVD · · Score: 1

      Brings back memories. After some buddies and I had our own pepper eating contest in Texas, the next day, one of the guys was overcome and had to go to the restroom in a walmart. We heard the screams from far away. When he finally came out he just smiled at the crowd that had gathered and said "Man, that was an ankle grabber!"

    51. Re:Great... Just Great. by Gobiner · · Score: 1
      Last year at a college ultimate tournament hosted by Stanford, our team went to some pizza place for dinner. One of my teammates unscrewed the shaker lid on the pepper shaker. Consequently, the next guy who grabbed it spilled more than half of the shaker's contents onto his slice of pizza. He just dragged the slice out from underneath the pepper, leaving a plate full of pepper.

      There was some talk, and eventually a pot of $40 was going to go to the person who could eat all the pepper. Obviously, I volunteered as I was certain eating the whole plate was possible. Sadly, I didn't finish it but I took a very red and very burning shit the next morning.

    52. Re:Great... Just Great. by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Even stranger, my skin is not very sensetive.

      And to the troll: i did it for a non-sexual reason, and even if I did shaving your nether regions has nothing to do with sexual orientation.

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    53. Re:Great... Just Great. by RockModeNick · · Score: 1

      Perhaps an allergy to the actual protease used in nair...

    54. Re:Great... Just Great. by RockModeNick · · Score: 1

      Yes, the kind of fag that likes getting head to the balls from his GF, trust me thats much nicer for both of you without hair... you must really have homosexuality on your brain all the time, to even make a connection. Listen to MC Frontalot, and chill on the gaybash - http://frontalot.untimelydeath.com/mc_frontalot_-_ i_heart_fags.mp3

    55. Re:Great... Just Great. by Muhammar · · Score: 1

      Vigorous excersize helps fighting cancer. So if the capsaicin suppository makes an overweight octagenerian run..

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  3. Forget the cells! by turrican · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sometimes the stuff in those peppers (on their way out...) makes me want to commit suicide!

    1. Re:Forget the cells! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1
      Sometimes the stuff in those peppers (on their way out...) makes me want to commit suicide!

      There have been times I would have traded my house to a pharmacy with a large stock of Anbesol and a 5-minute delivery guarantee. I don't know that the stuff desired to numb your toothache would also quench the fires of nether hell, but I've been willing to found out on several occasions.

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    2. Re:Forget the cells! by zalbag · · Score: 1

      Holy fucking shit, Turrican. If your handle is in reference to the Sega Genesis game I both loathe and respect you. That game caused such ridiculous frustration that my brother ripped it out of my friend's Genesis, threw it out of the third story window, ran outside and stomped on it and, as a final touch, threw it in his pool.

    3. Re:Forget the cells! by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      What's the big deal? Those little green peppers from the local thai place burn a little on the way out, but that only takes about a minute.

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    4. Re:Forget the cells! by mike2R · · Score: 1

      Just in case you want to do the same to your PC.. T2002

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    5. Re:Forget the cells! by mrops · · Score: 1

      Now you know why people from South Asia use water instead of tissue to wipe thier ass.

    6. Re:Forget the cells! by fbjon · · Score: 1

      What? I can't count the times I've played through those games, all three of them.

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    7. Re:Forget the cells! by fbjon · · Score: 1

      I feel the same way. I've never experienced any "ring of fire" at all, and I've spent a month in Korea, eating red-colored dinner tables. Is there some fundamental difference between Mexican and Asian hot spice?

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    8. Re:Forget the cells! by dindi · · Score: 1

      OK, there are 2 kinds of peppers regarding burning sensations in your mouth, and I think that comes back to the other burning.

      1 kind of pepper however hot, does not keep hurting your mouth (like tabasco, habanaeron and different american (central) souces.

      2. The evil peppers, like the green big thing in europe. When you eat some of this, the burning sensation stays for hours in your mouth.

      The latter is not necessarily hotter than the first, but stays somehow. I think the #2 is the one that gives you a secund burn, a ring of fire, or "so hot you feel it twice" feeling.

      I am not a hot pepper expert, but love hot stuff.... If you go to panama, try the souce that has mustard in it, and habanero peppers (it is like a liquid mustard, and is an all restaurant tables - dunno about fancy restaurants, but all small places at the beach have that).

      BTW I import my sauces from Panama to Costa Rica, because sauces are not hot here enough. I know a mexican guy working in a bar/restaurant, he always asks guests if they want "costa rican hot" or "mexican hot" when they ask for hot sauce

    9. Re:Forget the cells! by fbjon · · Score: 1

      That's strange, because that's how it is in Korea. It burns all over in your mouth, then it goes away slowly, after a minute or so, as it gets more and more diluted. After the meal, there's generally no pain or burning in the mouth at all. In fact, the red pepper in Korea came from the west, but why have I never experienced this pleasant warming of the aft that I hear so much about... perhaps it can be neutralized as it passes through the intestines?

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    10. Re:Forget the cells! by turrican · · Score: 1

      It's in reference to Turrican in general, yes, but my main experience with the series was on the Amiga. Thankfully for my pocketbook, I didn't have the same gaming experience as your buddy, heh. One of the best things about that game was the soundtrack (the Chris Hülsbeck ones at least.)

      A couple of places with more recent stuff, including an available Turrican style game with level editor, and a multi-emulator in the works:

      http://turricanforever.de/

      http://www.nemmelheim.de/turrican/

    11. Re:Forget the cells! by mink · · Score: 1

      Yogurt.

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  4. Yow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I don't care what those scientists say, I ain't stuffing that jalapeno up my ass!

    1. Re:Yow! by grub · · Score: 1, Funny


      I don't care what those scientists say, I ain't stuffing that jalapeno up my ass!

      Why not? Your boyfriend doesn't like spicy food?
      [rimshot]

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    2. Re:Yow! by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

      Ironically, "chile" is a mexican innuendo for... well you can figure it out :P

    3. Re:Yow! by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 3, Funny

      Your use of the word innuendo was both apt and poignant.

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  5. The Treatment. by AlphaLop · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, But those Hot Sauce enema treatments are a bitch!

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    1. Re:The Treatment. by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 3, Funny

      Patient: Owwwww! Owwwwwww! God Damn it!!!

      Enema Nurse: Too hot?

      Patient: No! Too much cilantro!

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  6. Three to eight... by FireballX301 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lehmann estimated that the mice ate the human equivalent of 400 milligrams of capsaicin three times a week. That is about the amount found in three to eight fresh habanero peppers, depending on how hot the peppers are.

    I may be a lightweight bastard, but I cannot eat a single habanero without violently vomiting.

    400 mg of Capsaicin is basically like eating pepper spray. Even if it's in capsule pill form you may vomit it up from your stomach. I wonder if there's any way for a local application to the prostate instead of standard ingestion.

    1. Re:Three to eight... by cbiffle · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, sure, we can...but trust me, you're probably going to prefer the mouth to the urethra, when it comes to capsaicin treatments.

    2. Re:Three to eight... by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm sure there is, but it would burn like a motherfucker.

    3. Re:Three to eight... by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1
      Personally, I like hot sauce, so three to eight fresh habanero peppers a week doesn't sound that bad to me. But I realize it's way more than a lot of folks would want to eat. I'm surprised the mice were willing to eat it.

      Of course, if you want to reach the same dosage/body-weight, and the mice were eating 400mg,... That's a whole lot of capsaicin for a human.

    4. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Trust me"? And you know this because...?

    5. Re:Three to eight... by geekoid · · Score: 4, Informative

      it would be in a pill form, so there would be no taste or burning of the mouth.
      Now if your vomiting is from a reaction from something besides taste and burning mouth, you screwed.

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    6. Re:Three to eight... by CptChipJew · · Score: 1

      They're called buffered slow-release tablets. Check out your Advil bottle.

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    7. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OK, we need a little reading comprehension here. Let's start with the exact same quote:

      Lehmann estimated that the mice ate the human equivalent of 400 milligrams of capsaicin three times a week. That is about the amount found in three to eight fresh habanero peppers, depending on how hot the peppers are.

      Now, one unambiuous point is that the mice ate the human equivalent of 400mg, they did not eat 400mg.

      The other point is that they ate it three times a week. I take the quote to mean that 400mg is equivalent to 3-8 habaneros, which they ate 3 times per week. Maybe the weekly total adds up to 3 to 8 peppers, but that's not the way I took that.

    8. Re:Three to eight... by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1

      Damn, your right. I misread that. I don't know many people hard core enough to eat 24 habaneros a week.

    9. Re:Three to eight... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1
      I'm surprised the mice were willing to eat it.

      I suspect they might not have had much choice in the matter. Maybe they should join a union...

    10. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      24 habaneros or having the darn thing spread everywhere and dying from it? Thank you, but I guess this time I'd, er, compromise.

      Dying from cancer is not nearly as nice as eating habaneros.

      Cheers, Kuba Ober

    11. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, come on. Every man knows this. Instinctively.

    12. Re:Three to eight... by RNLockwood · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, they could use a technique similar to that of prostate biopsy, a needle into the prostate throgh the colon wall. They did that to me last week (12 samples and I counted each and every one) and I'm still uninating a little blood. ("is this uncomfortable?" Hell, yes! "This may burn a bit." Yup!)

      Better than dying from a mestastsized prostate concer or enduring the other methods of controling it (possible side effects: impotance, incontenance, etc.) I was so nervous that my blood pressure was the hightest it's ever been. I have always been able to control it to some extent by relaxation techniques but that failed me it went up a few points the second time. Didn't even get a copy of the ultra sound picture: "It's a boy!".

      Perhaps the Capsaicin could be administered in capsules that would not disintegrate in the stomach.

      I wondered about Jennifer, the nurse, did she imagine when she took up nursing that she would spend her days stiking her finger up the rectums of perfect strangers to apply anesthetic? And what was the point of giving me privacy to change into and out of the gown? First time I've worn a maxi pad as well - and I did not go back to work.

      Oh, BTW, my biopsy was negative.

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    13. Re:Three to eight... by JourneyExpertApe · · Score: 1

      I could eat three to eight habaneros if they were spread out in all the food I ate during the day. I'd probably get tired of eating spicy food all the time, though. If this was produced as a drug therapy, it would probably be in a timed release capsule so it wouldn't release until it was in the small intestine or colon. That makes me wonder, how did they convince mice to eat that much capsaicin?

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    14. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah but it was three times a week, you could spread it out more. There are other peppers than habenero's as well.....

    15. Re:Three to eight... by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1

      I was thinking as a regular habit, or even as a prophylactic. Of course folks would do it if it where that or death.

    16. Re:Three to eight... by linzeal · · Score: 5, Funny
      Me, lived in Az for 5 years of my adult life. Me, got into hot sauces. So I buy things like blair's hot sauce. I put it on everything including pizza and take out me and my gf order on the weekdays when we do not have time to cook.

      Woman screaming in the middle of the night

      Why?

      Because cunnilingus is not so fun when the tongue hitting your clit is still swathed in hot sauce that is 100x hotter than anything you can buy at Safeway.

    17. Re:Three to eight... by Fishead · · Score: 4, Funny

      You make me want to eat a habanero.

    18. Re:Three to eight... by modecx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Capsaicin doesn't do a thing to tissues that don't have neurons to which the molecules can bind. I keep telling this to people that insist that eating peppers all the time will destroy your stomach... But some people just don't listen to reason, but instead to old wives tales. It seems that many membranes have the neurons that capsaicin triggers, and they're mostly on the face, and in and around the anus, of all places. If you managed to swallow a habanero whole, it shouldn't cause a problem unless some of that capsaicin survives the digestion process, and then you'll be singing a Johnny Cash song.

      Most birds, incidentally, don't have receptors that capsaicin works with, so they can eat peppers all day long and not have a problem.

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    19. Re:Three to eight... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Smoking a joint will suppress nausea. If you have prostate cancer, than a little THC is the least of your worries. Worst case, you temporarily become infertile.

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    20. Re:Three to eight... by brodi · · Score: 1

      Aww.. you're just being a little bitch, like pretty much 99% of people. Anyone can get used to higher and higher capsaicin levels... all you have to do is be able to withstand the intermediate pain levels, which get less and less per a given % of capsaicin. In fact, after a point, it becomes euphoric!

      I started out, much as the rest of you, thinking medium Taco Bell sauce was "spicy". Follow that with a couple of years with getting aquainted with some actually nice tasting "hot sauce" from my local pepper store, and I started to actually appreciate the Heat.

      Of course, this all brings one to the Dark Side. I now dump copious quantities of Dave's Private Reserve hot sauce (400,000 Scovilles) into any chili I eat, and when I want a real rush, I do toothpick tips of Da Bomb, The Final Answer (1.5 Million Scovilles) I pretty much can't detect heat in habaneros. Can't find a Thai joint that'll actually make stuff hot enough.

      On the other hand, it sounds like this 10 hab a day treatment might be just up my alley. Woot!

    21. Re:Three to eight... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're supposed to start with ginger and work your way up. Dammit, man, you've never heard of foreplay?

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    22. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, it's not an old wive's tale, though it isn't thought to be the most common cause of ulcers anymore. Capsaicin causes your stomach to secrete a lot of acid. If you're willing to experiment, eat a single Habanero on an empty stomach. You'll be able to feel the acid swish around inside you, as if you just had a big glass of water. This mechanism usually isn't enough to cause an ulcer, unless you have a weakened mucosal lining, for which there are several mechanisms. Spicy foods can also exacerbate an already existing ulcer.

    23. Re:Three to eight... by Gleemonex · · Score: 1

      I may be a lightweight bastard, but I cannot eat a single habanero without violently vomiting. 400 mg [per week --ed] of Capsaicin is basically like eating pepper spray.

      You're a lightweight, but not a bastard (that I can tell). With appropriate meals (ie. not vanilla ice cream) I will easily consume the equivalent of 2 or 3 habanero peppers in one sitting. Not that I'm bragging, or that it makes me better than you, but I just wanted to point out that such a level of consumption is humanly possible for those accustomed to it.

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    24. Re:Three to eight... by SupremeTaco · · Score: 1

      Habanero peppers are not that spicy unless you eat the seeds. I eat them all the time. Freeze them and slice them up (very thinly) in your food. Teh flavor is wonderful, but AVOID the seeds.

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    25. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's what you do - next time you go buy Thai food, you tell the waiter that Thai food is weak compared to Indian/Korean/whatever you had last week. You'll get something hot enough if you're enough of an asshole to make the waiter want to wipe the confident grin off your face.

      (I have no such problem. Although I can't taste any kind of fast food "hot" sauce, Dave's Insanity is too hot.)

    26. Re:Three to eight... by m.lp.ql.m · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're supposed to start with ginger and work your way up. Dammit, man, you've never heard of foreplay?

      Ginger first, THEN Mary Ann!

    27. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used about two habaneros peppers in my stir-fry almost everyday. I also splash plenty of other regional "hell" sauces on my food. People that like hot sauce (me) put it on EVERYTHING (except cereal). It's actually kind of addicting. It's difficult for me to eat a meal that isn't spicy. At this point, my tolerance for spicy food is so high that I don't even notice what "normal" people consider "hot." Their hot is my barely noticable hint of flavor. Sushi? I smother that shit in wasabi until the entire morsel is green. Sushi is just a vehicle for delivering the sweet nasal rush of wasabi into my system. I will avoid all sushi places that don't serve real wasabi because green horseradish is barely a blip on the radar for my senses. Ok, so what's my point? When you get into hot sauce, over the years, you develope a serious tolerance for it and eventually you actually enjoy and seek the pain/pleasure sensation of spicy heat. It makes you feel alive...and it really is cleansing to the system. Of course...you must build up your tolerance slowly. Now...but stomach is an iron forge. You could deposit dozens of habaneros, golf-balls of wasabi, and chile vodka into my stomach and I would hardly notice it. Your lower intestines eventually aclimatize as well. I read somewhere (don't know if this is true), that lots of really hot sauces and wasabis etc kill alot of the bacteria and germs in your mouth and/or stomach. So that may be an added benefit. In the end...I don't think I will get cancer. I don't think I'll get a damn thing. Hot sauce cures all. It's like Chris Rock's 'Tussin!

    28. Re:Three to eight... by Braino420 · · Score: 1

      Was it.... was it taking your clothes off sir? Maybe putting them on the lower peg?

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    29. Re:Three to eight... by kesuki · · Score: 1

      400 mg of Capsaicin is basically like eating pepper spray.

      and fine good eating it is.

      or course you're going to the bathroom about 15 minutes later ;) at least I am, and it's not coming back up... i get to feel the love out of my burning ring of fire.

      I'm surprized pepper spray hasn't taken on fad popularity with models who want to be like bullimiac, only out the other end ;)

      oh, and yeah there is no 'may be' a light weight you ARE a light weight.
      I drink cyanae pepper juice for cash just to prove i can. it's amazing how easily people will fork over a $20 when you pull out a tall shot glass and come cyanne pepper juice.

    30. Re:Three to eight... by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      "Oh, BTW, my biopsy was negative."

      Congrats.

      I had a flexible syg, without any sedatives... and a biopsy of a pylop.
      Felt all of that too, have to think your's was 5-10x worse.

      I'm with the poster above, and I'm well on my way. 12 of the 18 seeds I planted have sprouted so far :-)
      -nB

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    31. Re:Three to eight... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 0

      Funny you should say that, as the stomach is innervated with neurons, most of which are connected to the parasympathetic nervous system.

      I would be highly surprised if capsaicin didn't bind to these neurons in your stomach. It's just that the result is likely to be quite different since these neurons are wired up to your nervous system very differently than those around your face and anus.

    32. Re:Three to eight... by JavaRob · · Score: 1

      Alas, the capsaicin is the part that makes it hot. So if you're skipping the hot part, your prostate won't benefit.

      Personally, I'm married to a woman who's Malaysian/Indian, and a great cook, so some weeks I definitely make the capsaicin goal. It's important to keep track of what you're eating your spicy food *with*, though. I have a decent tolerance to begin with (and I like the rush when my food makes sweat a little, as long as it's *good*) -- but balancing the heat with cucumber raita (which is yoghurt-based) or something like that will make a big difference in how your mouth can deal with it.

      Also (and I really don't know exactly what's going on with this...) if the heat is building up in your mouth and getting painful (or interfering with you tasting your meal), you can take a mouthful of hot rice or tea and press it against the roof of your mouth for 10-20 seconds. Your mouth will get crazy hot for a bit, then it'll die down... and you'll be sweating bullets and your head will be swimming, but the burn-level is somehow reset.

    33. Re:Three to eight... by electr01nik · · Score: 1

      I may be a lightweight bastard, but I cannot eat a single habanero without violently vomiting.

      400 mg of Capsaicin is basically like eating pepper spray. Even if it's in capsule pill form you may vomit it up from your stomach. I wonder if there's any way for a local application to the prostate instead of standard ingestion.

      I wonder how the mice were taking it. I'd hate to be the grad student cleaning out that cage.

    34. Re:Three to eight... by Bega · · Score: 1
      it would be in a pill form, so there would be no taste or burning of the mouth.
      But think about it when the capsule's dissolved in your stomach, whereafter you throw up everything up, then it'll burn your mouth like a motherfucker!
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    35. Re:Three to eight... by bm_luethke · · Score: 1

      When I first started geting into hotter peppers I knew not what most of them looked like. I had to go by the labels at the store. Interested in the next level up I purchased some "serrano" peppers - they were small orange wrinkly peppers (the habenero bin had small smooth skinned green peppers). I took them home and chopped up two of them for a salad, placed them in the lettuece, and felt the urge to go to the bathroom. Upon the "aiming" phase of the process I kinda figured out something was wrong when the searing pain began to build, and build, and build, and build, and build - for quite a while (seranno don't rate high enough for me to bother with gloves). Went and looked up the pictures and discovered some kind person at the grocery store had swapped the habanero bin and the seranno pepper bin.

      I actually ate and ejoyed the salad after removing some of the pulp, I had ate hot suaces in the past up to over 200,000 scoville so the heat wasn't so much an an issue there, I just found it best to not go to the top in the beginning, you never know. However, I do not wish to undergo the spread upon my privates ever again.

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    36. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, it won't burn you on the way in if it is in a pill, but what about on the way out?

    37. Re:Three to eight... by arivanov · · Score: 1

      I have no problem eating the equivalent of 10-20, but it hits me elsewhere. High doses of capsacin will cause reumatic pains in many people. I love hot food, but I cannot eat it.

      While at it, collating some stats about mexican hot chili pepper consumption in the population vs rate of cancer should be trivial. In fact if the effect works in the real world it should be fairly obvious in the stats for let's say Mexican (who eat a lot of hot food) versus Finnish (who do not eat it at all).

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    38. Re:Three to eight... by modecx · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is true, but it's not like there is one type of receptor on any given neuron. Capsaicin works on a very specific type of receptor that also responds to acids and temperature (hence the link to the burning feeling). In our mouths, at least, there's a receptor for every sensation, bitter (alkali, sour (acids), sweet (I remember reading that there's a specific receptor for many kinds of different sugars), salty (ummm, salts), and hot/cold.

      I'm not a doctor or a biologist, but personally, I just don't feel a whole lot of anything in my stomach. You're right, that dosen't mean that capsaicin dosen't have some kind of effect, in fact, I've read that it can stimulate peristalsis in the GI tract and cause the parasympathetic nervous system to release a neurotransmitter which is responsible for lowering blood pressure and later release of endorphines. So, maybe it actually helps with good digestion and lowering blood pressure a bit, it could do much more for all I know... And all of that would indicate that there are at least a few compatible receptors in the stomach/GI tract, like you say. I didn't say there weren't. I've said time and again you couldn't feel it in your stomach, directly.

      I was just saying that there's no real evidence that capsaicin does any harm in the stomach, like so many people think. They think eating peppers in quantity is analogous to drinking battery acid. Even the AC that responded to me thinking he knows what goes on was misinformed. So what if it causes more acid, if it does at all? The stomach deals with some nasty ass acid all the time, a little or a lot more won't cause a problem in the stomach, even with weakened mucous lining. Oh, sure, a lot more than normal isn't good for the esophagus, but it's not built to deal with it. It's been proven that almost all stomach ulcers are caused either by bacteria that build a small basic environment in which they can thrive, or by cancer! Acid dosen't hurt a healthy stomach.

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    39. Re:Three to eight... by jaymz168 · · Score: 1

      I'm a chef in Philadelphia, and I can tell you some horror stories about peppers (friend gets long-hot pepper oil directly in eye... wind-borne cayenne pepper in my own eye... just touching the outside of a habenero and rubbing my face, the list goes on); but to stay on-topic, as far as dairy products go, it's the fat in the cream that nulls the capsaicin. Yogurt, cream, milk, all do wonders, but don't try chocolate milk, it seems to make it worse. Also, any food that's high in starch, like white rice, works equally well. I'm too lazy to go get my reference books, so I can't tell you exactly why, but fat and starch seem to do it.

    40. Re:Three to eight... by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Not that bad if you start eating the sauces that have been balanced out with other fruits, the pepper is a fruit. Some of those sauces say on the bottle 100 habeneros per bottle, that is the good stuff.

    41. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea still a whole lot better than what chemo does do you.

    42. Re:Three to eight... by shawb · · Score: 1

      Capsaicin is an oil, so therefore not water soluble. Drinking water will do very little to remove it from your tongue. Capsaicin will, however, mix in with the fats of the foods you eat and probably stick to the starches in the rice or bread and get removed from the tongue that way.

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    43. Re:Three to eight... by shawb · · Score: 1

      True, true. For vanilla ice cream the complex flavors of a good chipotle work a lot better. And no, I'm not kidding. Chili powder is good too.

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    44. Re:Three to eight... by mvonballmo · · Score: 1

      400mg of Capsaicin is suicide. That's about 1lb of the stuff...that's a hell of a "capsule".

    45. Re:Three to eight... by defile39 · · Score: 3, Informative

      And ALWAYS remember to thouroughly wash your hands after slicing peppers when you're making chilli. If you so happen to forget and decide to relieve your bladder, your penile positioning device (read: hands) might very well be the death of you.

    46. Re:Three to eight... by robnauta · · Score: 1

      An lb is about 450 gram, 400 mg is 1/1000 of that.

    47. Re:Three to eight... by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      Now if your vomiting is from a reaction from something besides taste and burning mouth, you screwed.

      Capsaicin is an irritant to all parts of the body, not just the mouth. If he's sensitive enough to throw up from a single habanero, then this pill would really mess with his stomach lining.

      Incidentally, birds are not sensitive to capsaicin. This may be why chili peppers evolved to be hot since only they rely on birds (and birds alone) to eat the pods and spread their seeds around.

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    48. Re:Three to eight... by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 2, Funny

      Same thing goes for contact lens wearers....

    49. Re:Three to eight... by Desert+Raven · · Score: 1

      The best thing I've found for killing the heat is Honey. I thought it strange when a New Mexico style restaurant I went to served baskets of sopapillas with the meal. But honey on bread definitely kills the afterburn of those Hatch chiles.

      A related note, the original Scoville scale referred to the number of sprays of sugar-water it took to kill the heat of a measured amount of pulped chile on the tongue.

    50. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ow, wait, better not be a woman in her period...

    51. Re:Three to eight... by digidave · · Score: 1

      They'll just put it into a pill you can buy at the pharmacy like any other health supplement. I take 4 grams of vitamin C daily and you don't see me eating a dozen oranges every day.

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    52. Re:Three to eight... by RockModeNick · · Score: 1

      On this note, do not take a leak in the woods if what you were just passing MIGHT have been poison ivy, even if you were just near it not touching it.

    53. Re:Three to eight... by RockModeNick · · Score: 1

      Slightly sugary water definaly seems to help with heat, though regular water does not. I used to eat a lot at this place near white planes, called Hubba Hubba - I think it was actually in the town of Rye, NY. They made texas style chili, and they made it beanless and HOT, and as a greasy spoon type restraunt, offered a version of nearly every item of their limited menu with a "chile and cheese" option. They also served, free of charge, "Hubba Water" - which was 10% hawaiian punch of the soda fountain, just enough to give a sweetness, and 90% water. And for some damn reason, it's the best thing for quenching dragon mouth, which the chili dishes invariably gave. Hubba has to be one of my favorite all time restraunts, and I'm a person that can appreciate expensive taste in food.

    54. Re:Three to eight... by jfisherwa · · Score: 1

      Bacteria cause ulcers. The peppers just happen to create a lot of what makes those ulcers truly painful.. :)

    55. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was a nurse in Intensive Care for a bunch of years, and studied Anatomy and Physiology (along with MANY,MANY other things) as part of getting my nursing license.

      There are a BUNCH of things that are known to cause irritation to the stomach lining - caffine, nicotine, and capsaicin are included, as are most medicines - aspirin being a common example.

      The stomach lining is covered with mucus producing cells that help to prevent the stomach digesting itself - and the acid in the stomach is pretty potent, to the point that drinking most other normal acids DILUTES the acid in the stomach, not makes it stronger.

      You are correct that H. pylori is the recognised cause of most ulcers, but it is NOT the ONLY cause of ulcers.

      I would agree with you that you would not feel the 'burn' from hot peppers in your stomach, but disagree that it would not cause irritation to the lining of the stomach - which possibly could be felt. Not sure how it would manifest itself - nausea? cramping? heartburn? - but pretty sure it would not be good for you.

      On the other hand, with long term exposure, I am pretty sure the mucus producing cells would hypertrophy to provide more protection to the lining of the stomach, so there would not be an increase in the number of bleeding ulcers in communities that routinely ingest larger quantities of 'hot' foods.

    56. Re:Three to eight... by abb3w · · Score: 1
      Because cunnilingus is not so fun when the tongue hitting your clit is still swathed in hot sauce that is 100x hotter than anything you can buy at Safeway.

      That this gets modded "funny" is suggestive of how much of Slashdot is male, and how limited their sex lives are.

      Just remember: sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, even hot sauce. Recieving felatio becomes similarly less enjoyable... unless you're seriously into S&M.

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    57. Re:Three to eight... by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      I have actually eaten that many habeneros in one sitting. I was in college and heard that habeneros were hot and being that I liked spicy food figured I would give them a try in a stir fry. So I bought a dozen habeneros and some other peppers. I chopped them all up and put them in the stir fry. I probably should have realized that maybe I shouldn't have used so many when my fingers were stinging after handling the peppers. I definately realized my mistake when the steam and smoke from my cooking was described by my roommates as tear gas.

      I still ate it though. I was a poor college student and this was 3 meals. I was drenched in sweat and drank a gallon of water by the time I had finished. I also ate four servings of rice and two wine coolers. And scarily enough, the process was repeated twice more.

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    58. Re:Three to eight... by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      Alcohol will disolve it so drink wine or beer.

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    59. Re:Three to eight... by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      There have been a number of studies where spicy (Capsaicin) foods where good for ulcers.

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    60. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You ever think that we might ENJOY it and not bother to complain about it; hence no funny fellat-stories involving hot sauce?

    61. Re:Three to eight... by linzeal · · Score: 1
      Yeah my gf punched me the first few times I did this to her, and laughed. She is building a tolerance though, I asked her if she thinks I'm helping her avoid cervical cancer? She replied she does not care much when she is using the shower head on full blast in some sort of perverse pain and pleasure sensation.

      I have not caused this problem in some time though, usually I drink a bunch of hot liquids before now, it seems to get the most severe of the heat out.

    62. Re:Three to eight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found that out with a habenero a few weeks ago. For some reason, it only hurt when I showered, though (almost like the water triggered it, which would be strange since capsasin is fat soluable).

    63. Re:Three to eight... by abb3w · · Score: 1
      You ever think that we might ENJOY it and not bother to complain about it; hence no funny fellat-stories involving hot sauce?

      Yes, which is why I mention the S&M possibility. I wasn't a fan of high-end hot sauce 2nd hand on my Mister Happy (CBT not being my schtick), but I've been told my tastes are "fucking vanilla". While I'd be suprised if that many guys were that into a "bottom" role, YMMV.

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    64. Re:Three to eight... by abb3w · · Score: 1
      Usually I drink a bunch of hot liquids before now, it seems to get the most severe of the heat out.

      Capsaicin is not very soluble in water, but is in oil or alcohol. Milk is traditionally suggested, but in this case I'd worry the lactose would increase risk of yeast infections. I'd try vodka (plain or vanilla) or a mouthwash (or just more time); however, I am neither a sex therapist nor a doctor. Your GF could ask her ObGyn for suggestions at her next checkup.

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    65. Re:Three to eight... by linzeal · · Score: 1

      The milk and honey in the tea helps, for sure. Yeah we are not too worried about cancer as we eat a lot of antioxidants but some cancers are supposedely caused by viruses and such.

    66. Re:Three to eight... by cens0r · · Score: 1

      It's actually very interesting from an evolutionary point of view. The smaller peppers, which are most likely to be eaten by birds, have the most capsaicin. When birds eat the peppers they tend to scatter the seeds far and wide. Mammals, not so much. Natural selection caused them to develop something that makes mammals not want to eat them.

      Coincidently, the chemical used to give an artificial grape flavoring to food items such as grape soda does have a similar effect on birds as capsaicin has on humans.

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    67. Re: Three to eight... by gidds · · Score: 1
      The way I heard it, capsaicin was shown to be a good preventative for stuff like stomach cancers. They think that's because it increases blood flow to the stomach.

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    68. Re:Three to eight... by RNLockwood · · Score: 1

      I didn't mention the other two biopsies I had that week (all negative). All in all I would rather have eaten a habanero if the end result (no pun intended) would have been the same!

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    69. Re:Three to eight... by RNLockwood · · Score: 1

      I had that too, 5 days later and a skin biopsy, too, a few days earlier. Kind of an intense week.

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  7. Hot Peppers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The right kind of pepper can cause anything to want to kill itself, especially if they dont have milk on hand.

    1. Re:Hot Peppers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spit out the milk or use simple syrup... thank ye gods that Alton Brown has made it fun to be a food geek! :)

    2. Re:Hot Peppers by homer_ca · · Score: 1

      What a coincidence because milk could increase the risk of prostate cancer.

  8. Great news for my wife! by AceyMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    My wife *loves* super hot foods, so if this is true, she'll never get prostate cancer!

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    1. Re:Great news for my wife! by Blarbo · · Score: 0, Redundant

      She sure won't, she doesn't have a prostate, unless...

    2. Re:Great news for my wife! by Quino · · Score: 1

      I have a Bathroom Reader's Guide (so, take it with a grain of salt I suppose), which claims that there is a long-standing paradox between low stomach cancer rates in Mexico and consumption of irritating hot peppers (Mexico has a per-capita rate of consumption of 1 jalapeno pepper per person per day, highest in the world).

      Again, according to the bathroom reader's guide, it was theorized that the cancer-fighting characteristics of capsaicin offsets whatever damage the peppers do to our intestinal tract.

      Right now all I could find on the internet was this article (which credits antioxidants as the possible source of the cancer-fighting effects of chilli peppers):

      http://www.cosmicchile.com/xdpy/kb/chile-lovers.ht ml

      From the article:

      It may be that protective factors in chiles -- such as antioxidants -- compensate for any potential harm from capsaicin. Or possibly the hot-pepper eaters in Mexico City have other practices that decrease their risk of stomach cancer -- such as high consumption of fruits and vegetables and low consumption of smoked meat and fish, pickled foods, alcohol and cigarettes.


      From the same article, it seems that your wife might also be getting other benefits:

      And there's evidence that chiles may have a number of beneficial health effects, such as protecting against blood clots and helping to lower blood cholesterol and blood pressure.

    3. Re:Great news for my wife! by blankoboy · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's fantastic! But sadly this won't invert her abnormally large clitoris into a vagina. Nor will it deter her from wearing your jockey's when she's not in the tranny mood.

    4. Re:Great news for my wife! by pete-classic · · Score: 1
      [I]t was theorized that the cancer-fighting characteristics of capsaicin offsets whatever damage the peppers do to our intestinal tract.


      Sure capsaicin kills intestinal cells. But only the weak ones!

      Bloody Marys, the ultimate health tonic! *hic*

      -Peter
    5. Re:Great news for my wife! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that and the fact that she doesn't have a prostate gland.

    6. Re:Great news for my wife! by blackbear · · Score: 3, Funny

      If your wife gets prostate cancer, you need to have a nice long talk about her past.

    7. Re:Great news for my wife! by chochos · · Score: 1
      It may be that protective factors in chiles -- such as antioxidants -- compensate for any potential harm from capsaicin. Or possibly the hot-pepper eaters in Mexico City have other practices that decrease their risk of stomach cancer -- such as high consumption of fruits and vegetables and low consumption of smoked meat and fish, pickled foods, alcohol and cigarettes.
      Dude, I live in Mexico City, and trust me... it's not the reduced consumption of alcohol and cigarrettes. I mean, pretty much everybody here smokes and drinks (at different levels of course). Low consumption of fish -- I'll buy that, since it's expensive in Mexico City. Smoked meat? I guess I can say it's common to eat smoked meat. Some people eat a lot of fruit and vegetables, but a lot of people only eat fruit as a dessert. Breakfasts here are usually spicy (chilaquiles, enchiladas, eggs with salsa, carnitas, barbacoa, etc) as well as dinners and obviously lunch. Plus we have the worst air quality in the whole planet. So I think it can be the chiles after all that are helping decrease the cancer risk...
  9. I just happen to be... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 0

    a prostate cancer cell you insensitive clod!!!

    1. Re:I just happen to be... by RingDev · · Score: 1

      Okay, that got a chuckle out of me!

      -Rick

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  10. Wow... by Kittie+Rose · · Score: 1

    Gives whole new meaings to the phrases "Fireball", "It's a Spicy Meatball!", and "Goodness Gracious, Great Balls of Fire!".

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  11. Test subjects. by AlphaLop · · Score: 1, Funny

    I bet the test mice were Speedy Gonzalez and his pals....

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    1. Re:Test subjects. by The_Sock · · Score: 3, Funny

      I hope that's a +1 we're laughing AT you funny.

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    2. Re:Test subjects. by zxnos · · Score: 1
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  12. From the non-scatological department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tragedy in the punk rock world today as...

  13. Thanks for the info...I'm preparing right now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm cooking up a great big pot of hot hot hot chili for my girlfriend right now!

  14. Capsaicin - topical analgesic by Frankie70 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Capsaicin
    is an excellent topical analgesic also for neural problems, like Diabetic neuropathy.

    There is a substance P which transmits the pain to the brain. Capsaicin destroys substance
    P if you apply it for 4-5 days multiple times a day & hence for the next couple of weeks
    you will not have pain, then you have to report it. Instead of the expensive Capsaicin
    cream you can also use a paste made at home of red chilli powder etc. Or even McIlhenny's Tabasco

    I have meralgia parasthetic condition & nothing provides relief like chilli paste.

    1. Re:Capsaicin - topical analgesic by alfredo · · Score: 1

      I am a hot pepper addict. Not only does it relieve pain, it really can get you high. Tonight I smothered some Jambalya with some Melinda's Special Reserve Habanero sauce. It made me feel better.

      Endorphins is my drug.

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    2. Re:Capsaicin - topical analgesic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you,
      I couldnt figure out wtf was burning my leg.

    3. Re:Capsaicin - topical analgesic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forget topical, I *drink* Tabasco.

      Really wish it didn't have so much salt in it as that kills some of the pepper flavor, but anyway, I drink the stuff and have for years.

      Now that it's good for the prostate, I bet the price goes up and Larry King starts hawking a pill for it. "I'm Larry King, do what I do: take EsterPepper8, cause it's good for the Pros-tate!"

      Because the phrase "I'm Larry King, do what I do" ALWAYS precedes something good. I mean, look at the man. Proof right there!

    4. Re:Capsaicin - topical analgesic by torkd · · Score: 1, Informative

      I think you're mixing up neuropathy with neuralgia.

      diabetic neuropathy is actually not painful - people will go on with an ulcer on their foot for weeks and not know it. it gets to be pretty bad actually. the first sign of neuropathy is that you will have numbness or tingling.

      neuralgia is painful. quite painful. people with trigeminal neuralgia come in complaining of quick lightning flashes of pain on their face.

    5. Re:Capsaicin - topical analgesic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you very much!

    6. Re:Capsaicin - topical analgesic by Frankie70 · · Score: 1


      diabetic neuropathy is actually not painful


      Yeah - go tell that to people who can't sleep because
      their legs burn at night & they also have other pain.

      Check here

    7. Re:Capsaicin - topical analgesic by defile39 · · Score: 1

      More and more evidence is mounting to the effect that cancer is sometimes caused by inflamatory processes. Substance P is necessary for some cancer cells to progress through cell cycling. When molecules like COX are overexpressed, as is the case in some inflamatory processes, Substance P is also ramped up. Taking Substance P out of the equation can do a few things. With pain caused by trauma, the transmission of the painful sensation is decreased. With aberrant cell propogation, apoptosis can be induced. Some studies are showing that drugs like aspirin and capsaicin may be more effective at dealing with cancer than existing targeted (side effect ridden) cancer drugs.

    8. Re:Capsaicin - topical analgesic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, torkd is more right than you are.

      Neuropathy is a disease or damage to the nerve. The result can be either a lack of firing or an overfiring or firing without stimuli.

      Lack of firing causes numbness. Not painful.

      Firing without stimulus or overfiring is neuralgia, or nerve pain without a cause or out of proportion to the stimuli.

      Overfiring can be caused by factors other than neuropathy - strychnine causes it, for one - so it is possible to have neuropathy without neuralgia and neuralgia without neuropathy.

      From the web site you link to, diabetic neuropathy MAY, CAN, and SOMETIMES DOES cause neuralgia. From that same web site, diabetic neuropathy DOES NOT ALWAYS result in neuralgia.

      As torkd points out, the nerve disease or damage is not itself painful - it _can_ cause firing of neurons that are interpreted as being painful, however. I think this is just a nit-pick though.

      And your rebuttal of Yeah - go tell that to people who can't sleep because their legs burn at night & they also have other pain. is obviated by the people with diabetic neuropathy that have numbness instead - like me. As torkd wrote [P]eople will go on with an ulcer on their foot for weeks and not know it.or like me, they may not be able to tell if the bath water is hot or not and may get scalded without knowing it. I take showers now as my hands are not (yet) affected and I can tell if the water is to hot or not before I get burned. I do a daily visual inspection of my feet for sores or bruises to try to prevent complications.

      My diabetic neuropathy is NOT PAINFUL.

      Anecdotal evidence that your post is not as accurate as the one by torkd.

  15. new market... by irving47 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I sense a new product and service for locations near hospitals and clinics offering treatment.... Buttermilk enemas!

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  16. The future of pharmacy by east+coast · · Score: 1

    Your medication sir.

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  17. Ouch... by rampant+mac · · Score: 1

    Ah. Nothing like waking up to take your morning medication which may now include a 300,000+ SCOVILLE SCALE PILL FROM HELL.

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    1. Re:Ouch... by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      Ah. Nothing like waking up to take your morning medication which may now include a 300,000+ SCOVILLE SCALE PILL FROM HELL.

      Kid stuff. Life begins at 1 million Scoville.

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  18. Capsaicin Molecule T-shirt by CFrankBernard · · Score: 2, Informative
  19. Another thing you can do... by clevershark · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can also masturbate for prostate health! Just make sure you do that before handling hot peppers. Trust me on that one.

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    1. Re:Another thing you can do... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Just make sure you do that before handling hot peppers. Trust me on that one."

      Dammit. Now my peppers taste funny.

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    2. Re:Another thing you can do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's it!

      I declare prior art on masturbating with a 20kHz ultrasound
      probe using a chillipepper quercetin cream made with coconut oil.

      please type the word in this image:delicacy

    3. Re:Another thing you can do... by rampant+mac · · Score: 5, Funny
      "You can also masturbate for prostate health!"

      Why even post this here? There won't be case of prostate cancer among the Slashdot crowd for the next 65 fucking years!

      ...

      Back in 5

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    4. Re:Another thing you can do... by wildsurf · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can also masturbate for prostate health!

      That explains why no one on Slashdot has EVER gotten prostate cancer.

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    5. Re:Another thing you can do... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 3, Funny
      That explains why no one on Slashdot has EVER gotten prostate cancer.

      Indeed. Now just excuse me for a moment while I go shave my palms...

    6. Re:Another thing you can do... by Ranger · · Score: 1

      You can also masturbate for prostate health! Just make sure you do that before handling hot peppers. Trust me on that one.

      Tough call. Because every time you masturbate a Stormtrooper kills an Ewok. Come to think of it. Slashdotters have killed a lot of Ewoks.

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    7. Re:Another thing you can do... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "That explains why no one on Slashdot has EVER gotten prostate cancer."

      In that same vein, one could conclude that sunlight causes prostate cancer.

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    8. Re:Another thing you can do... by Ruvim · · Score: 1

      Wow! Should health insurance companies cover porn therapy now?

    9. Re:Another thing you can do... by krunk4ever · · Score: 1

      That just mean your peppers don't have enough capsaicin. Try something hotter. The funny taste will eventually go away.

    10. Re:Another thing you can do... by wildsurf · · Score: 1

      You can also masturbate for prostate health!

      Sure, but does it work if you're a woman?

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    11. Re:Another thing you can do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      You can also masturbate for prostate health!

      Talk about taking your life into your own hands!

    12. Re:Another thing you can do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dammit. Now my peppers taste funny.

      Is *that* what they call them these days? Huh.

    13. Re:Another thing you can do... by Quantam · · Score: 1

      That has to be the most shocking thing I've heard in months. Moreso even than finding out the "illegal wiretapping" incidents weren't actually illegal (nor unconstitutional).

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    14. Re:Another thing you can do... by FluffyArmada · · Score: 1

      Which is why old catholic men get prostate problems far more than other people.

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    15. Re:Another thing you can do... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      talk about "bustin' a cap in your ass"...

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    16. Re:Another thing you can do... by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 1

      There's gotta be a joke here about Brian Peppers....

    17. Re:Another thing you can do... by Kjella · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why even post this here? There won't be case of prostate cancer among the Slashdot crowd for the next 65 fucking years!

      Shouldn't that be 65 non-fucking years?

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    18. Re:Another thing you can do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Just make sure you do that before handling hot peppers. Trust me on that one.

      and you know this... how?

    19. Re:Another thing you can do... by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1
      On an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, a fellatio teacher tells Larry Davis that eating chilli peppers makes your semen taste sweet. So if someone else will be doing the stimulating, eat away!

      BTW, I have no idea if this is true.

  20. FIGHT PROSTATE CANCER by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 1

    Mod him down!

  21. The wonders of capsules... by Kittie+Rose · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you take your medication right, you'll never taste an ounce of spiciness. All the "spicy" stuff will be kept inside a neat little pill casing, presuming the chemical IS all that spicy when isolated from the peppers. Just don't bite.

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    1. Re:The wonders of capsules... by donscarletti · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, Capsicain is indeed spicy when isolated from peppers. It's what pepper spray is made from. Unfortunantly it doesn't have the flavour of chilis, only the heat.

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    2. Re:The wonders of capsules... by edbosanquet · · Score: 1

      Have you ever eaten a Habanero? The unpleasentness doesn't end after it hits your mouth.

      I can only imagine what it would be like to eat 3 of them 3 times a week. Hell my intestins can only handle about a quater of one a day without it severly disrupitng the continunity of my work.

    3. Re:The wonders of capsules... by Kittie+Rose · · Score: 1

      But, if you were to create tablets which store the chemical inside a capusle, you wouldn't taste it unless you're stupid enough to bite it.

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    4. Re:The wonders of capsules... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      the sad news is, you don't eat the new prostate-protecting pepper pills. you ram them up your penis through your bladder and into your prostate.

    5. Re:The wonders of capsules... by m00j · · Score: 1

      Yeah but what goes in must come out, you must have never eaten hot sauce before.

      Maybe it will come in topical form! What a way to start the day!

    6. Re:The wonders of capsules... by Ksisanth · · Score: 1

      Dried chiltepins can be swallowed whole without any burning sensation. Chewing them is more fun, though, and would help to build a tolerance without lasting discomfort.

  22. Quick Google Scholar Search by FreemanPatrickHenry · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hmm, a quick Google Scholar search for "capsaicin cancer" revealed this. That link, from NIH, seems to indicate that there's evidence that capsaicin is a carconigen:

    The cancer increase was dependent on the concentration of these groups in a county. These results strengthen and extend an earlier case-control study which found odds ratios above 5 for the stomach cancer association with capsaicin pepper. It is further evidence that capsaicin is a human carcinogen.

    Thoughts?

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    1. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by brian0918 · · Score: 1

      "These results strengthen and extend an earlier case-control study which found odds ratios above 5 for the stomach cancer association with capsaicin pepper... Thoughts?"

      Well, given the choice between not being able to have sex and not being able to eat solid foods, I think most men would pick the better of two evils.

      Then again, this is Slashdot.

    2. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by HolyCrapSCOsux · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have issues with all "[insert product here] causes cancer" studies. The mechanisms that cause a cingle cell to become cancerous are not known. Ther are people who smoke for 30 years and don't develop cancer. Then there are folks like my father in law. Smoked 20 years, and got skin cancer, but not lung cancer. Until someone figures out DEFINITIVELY(sp?) how cancer starts, how can they say anything "causes" cancer?

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    3. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by 42Penguins · · Score: 2, Insightful

      By now, in this age of medicine[marketing], most common substances and behaviors both increase and decrease your risk for any cancer, depending on who and when you ask, and what report has just come out.
      It's like the fad diet thing. "Carbs evil! Eat meat! No, eat carbs! Tofu FTW!"
      Thoughts? Well, I just know that a lot of people tend to end up with cancer at some point or another. Maybe it's new definitions in diagnosis, maybe it's the 1000 or so nuclear tests put on by the US alone, maybe it's the terrorists (gasp!) poisoning the water hole, or maybe it's lifestyles.
      The important thing is: you are going to die someday, and that's that. Live life aware of it, but not consumed by it.

    4. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by kfg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Thoughts?

      a)All of these ethnic groups also eat a lot more beans than the "normal" population. Possibly more corn and lime (as in the mineral) as well. I don't see the justification for claiming that capsaicin was isloated.

      b)You're going to die, get used to the idea.

      KFG

    5. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not surprising at all. A lot of cancer therapies are carcinogenic, including radiation and many chemotherapies. But nearly everyone is willing to risk the possibility of new cancers versus the certainty of death from the existing cancer.

    6. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      Depends. Do you like your prostate more or your stomach?

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    7. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by nano_assembler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      H. Pylori has been linked to stomach cancer as well. I think I remember reading that the cause may have been damage to the lining of the stomach. It makes sense to me that large quantities of capsaicin could repeatedly damage the lining of the stomach in turn possibly leading to stomach cancer. Hopefully the amount used in the doses to treat prostate cancer would be lower than the doses that may cause stomach cancer.

    8. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by mqduck · · Score: 1

      Easy. If 100 people rub orange peels on their skin and they all get skin cancer, you can guess that orange peels are carcinagenic (sp?). You don't have to know HOW.

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    9. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by dudeX · · Score: 1

      I believe the high incidence of cancer is either due to the peppers being grown pesticides, or the kind of people who really love hot peppers do not really eat a healthy diet.

    10. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget, one treatment for prostrate cancer is castration.
      posting anonymously due to already moderating this subject

    11. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by Braino420 · · Score: 1

      Yes, so in this case it would be 'If 100 people rub orange peels on their skin and they all get skin cancer, but then another 100 people rub orange peels on their skin and don't get cancer.'

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    12. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      Maybe if the Capsaisin doesn't kill your prostate, it will kill your ass...

      Hot Child in the Shitty?

      "I fell down, on my burning sphincter fire, and flames turned brown, and the stench was getting higher... Down down down, sphincter fire, sphincter fire..."

      In one place where I worked for a month and half I had to hear that fucking song ten fucking times. That and 15 or 20 others that always came up no matter WHAT the customers picked.

      I'll eat 5 thumb-sized Habanero peppers a day for a week, maybe a month, so long as I never have to hear that song more than once a year...

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    13. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by JavaRob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Carbs evil! Eat meat! No, eat carbs! Tofu FTW!"

      Huh? Tofu is pretty much all protein, not carbs.

      Anyway, if your conclusion from "we get contradictory info, and we're all going to die someday anyway" is "ignore all the info" that's just another extreme approach that's going to hurt you.

      It's like you should probably avoid the extreme diets premised on dubious (or little-explored) studies. But you aren't choosing between that and eating Ho-Hos and pizza for every meal. There's a ton we *do* know about leading a healthy life. Don't spend hours a day counting calories, but get some exercise, avoid the junk food (just don't even bring it home unless you have an iron will), and start eating less if you start getting fat. It's not that hard once you're in the habit, and you'll live a much better life than anyone swinging between the extremes.

      About cancer... often it's worth checking into actual incidence rates of different cancers before you make choices of what recommendations you want to ignore. Some carcinogens have a tiny effect. Something like smoking has a pretty huge effect (something like 1 in 19 people get lung cancer in their lives, and 90% of people who die from lung cancer are smokers.. and that's ignoring all of the other health effects of smoking, including other cancers).

      In the end, you do have to balance the benefit against the gain, but it IS worth putting some thought into ...and actually reading the numbers.

      Yes, freaking out at every headline isn't much use (since many of the reporters don't always seem to understand the actual significance of the studies they're reporting on... they just want the big headline), but that doesn't mean useful info isn't readily available. If you don't want to parse it yourself, talk to your doctor about it.

    14. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by some+guy+on+slashdot · · Score: 4, Informative

      We do, in fact, know what causes cancer. It's just random mutation of a LOT of DNA codons. The problem is partly that it takes so many mutations, in so many possible combinations, that we can't point to a single cause. But that doesn't mean we can't predict what things are more likely to induce those cancerous mutations. In fact, we have names for the series of things that are likely to cause mutation; carcinogens. You're right that we don't know to the exact decimal place how carcinogenic certain things are. But we do know that cigarettes are 1,000,000 times as carcinogenic as, say, a baked potato.

      Does this mean that smoking cigarettes will undoubtedly give you cancer, always, in every case? No. Does it mean that avoiding carcinogens will completely safeguard you against it? No. Because the mechanism is still completely random - you could smoke your entire life and never create a particular combination of mutations that causes your cells to divide uncontrollably, or you could get a bad set of transcription errors and end up with cancer anyway. But that doesn't mean you should discount smoking, industrial waste and radiation as health risks simply because we don't know if habanero peppers are slightly carcinogenic or not.

      The question is, if rolling a die a thousand times in a specific order would give you a horrible, disfiguring and probably deadly disease, would you rather roll the die 1 billion times, or 100 billion times?

    15. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Then there are folks like my father in law. Smoked 20 years, and got skin cancer, but not lung cancer. Until someone figures out DEFINITIVELY(sp?) how cancer starts, how can they say anything "causes" cancer?

      Just because there's some collaborating and perhaps unknown factors that influences the eventual outcome doesn't make it false, it is merely a probability rather than a certainty.

      Let me take an example: Some women gets raped. Some of these women commit suicide. But because some of these women didn't commit suicide, we can't conclude that being raped causes suicides? Huh? In fact, I think you dismissed all of psychology, social science and anything else that doesn't deal in absolutes.

      We've quite clearly isolated smoking as a cause of increased rate of cancer. It's neither required nor guaranteed, but the world doesn't just work in black or white. We only know it is part of the answer, not the whole answer.

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    16. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by Ihlosi · · Score: 1
      Ther are people who smoke for 30 years and don't develop cancer.



      Yes. They're called "lucky".



      Smoked 20 years, and got skin cancer, but not lung cancer.



      Smoking increases your chances of develeoping all kinds of cancer, lung cancer being just the most prominent one. Still, some lucky smokers manage to die of smoking-related heart disease (which, in most cases, is a lot less lingering and painful than dying from cancer).


    17. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by defile39 · · Score: 1

      Capsaicin increases stomach acid production. Excessive acid production can cause stomach and esophageal cancer. With the amount the mice in this study were taking, it would be almost impossible to administer capsaicin treatment without bypassing the stomach and co-administering a PPI.

    18. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by coinreturn · · Score: 2, Funny

      The question is, if rolling a die a thousand times in a specific order would give you a horrible, disfiguring and probably deadly disease, would you rather roll the die 1 billion times, or 100 billion times?

      Since each die roll would take at least two seconds, a billion die rolls would take at least two billion seconds or over 126 years. Therefore, I really don't care if it's a billion or 100 billion rolls - either way I'm rolling the die my entire life. And if I must spend my entire life rolling a die, I'm hoping the deadly sequence shows up before puberty.

    19. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by sjames · · Score: 1

      Until someone figures out DEFINITIVELY(sp?) how cancer starts, how can they say anything "causes" cancer?

      There seems to be a LOT of self-fulfilling guesswork involved. Whenever anyone's specific cancer is attributed to X, it's a guess based on X can cause Y cancer, so if patient did X and got Y cancer, X MUST have caused Y. That would be fine if it stopped right there. After all, a guess is all they will ever have (the kind of lifelong data needed to ever have more than a good guess just isn't available in real patients), and as guesses go in medicine, that form is generally reasonable.

      Unfortunatly, they then take all of those X causes Y styled guesses and try to turn it into statistics. The problem is that such statistical thinking will mask out any other contributing factors completely and will tend to lay 100% of the blame on what is actually just the straw that broke the camel's back.

      For most of the X causes Y cancer statistics, I suspect (but cannot prove) that in fact, the cancers are 'the death of a thousand cuts' where MOST of those cuts are actually from the many environmental pollutants we all live in, where no single pollutant taken by itself is enough to cause cancer.

    20. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Tofu is pretty much all protein, not carbs.

      Protein and fat. Tofu gets 20% to 40% of its calories from fat, depending on what kind you get. Still pretty good for you, and fairly complete amino-acid wise.

    21. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by AeroIllini · · Score: 1

      Don't spend hours a day counting calories, but get some exercise, avoid the junk food (just don't even bring it home unless you have an iron will), and start eating less if you start getting fat.

      "What kind of sandwich doesn't have a lot of fat in it?"

      "Half a sandwich."

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    22. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by Mprx · · Score: 1

      The hot sensation of black pepper is not caused by safrole (which is a known carcinogen), but by piperine. Safrole is only found in pepper in very small traces. However, sassafras leaves are used in Creole cooking, which are much higher in safrole. I don't have access to the full text, but this paper looks very dubious.

    23. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by fbjon · · Score: 1

      No no, puberty is the horrible, disfiguring, and ultimately deadly disease.

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    24. Re:Quick Google Scholar Search by Savantissimo · · Score: 1

      Very few long-term smokers get lung cancer. Smokers are less likely to get colon cancer than the general population due to increased bowel motility. However, most smokers will eventually get emphysema or heart disease and overall their lives are not only shorter but their final years are unpleasant. Strokes and circulatory problems are the other major causes of morbidity and mortality among smokers. Lung cancer is relatively rare and comparatively quick, though certainly not merciful.

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  23. This clearly demonstrates by jvance · · Score: 5, Funny

    how much the Slashdot userbase is aging. Now where are my glasses? I can't find my Viagra without them.

    1. Re:This clearly demonstrates by Methuseus · · Score: 1

      If you need Viagra to masturbate, then what's the point anymore? ;)

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    2. Re:This clearly demonstrates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If youstill can't find it, I can forward a whole lot of emails telling you where to get some...

    3. Re:This clearly demonstrates by fbjon · · Score: 1
      Masturbating for 5 hours straight, is the point.

      It's geriatric exercise, never heard of it? Hell, I even found a linky to dubiously support my post!:

      Drug for erectile dysfunction is redefining our ideas about sexuality among older couples, October 1998

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  24. Re:Thanks for the info...I'm preparing right now.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm cooking up a great big pot of hot hot hot chili for my girlfriend right now!

    I'm trying to understand if this is a vague reference to oral sex or are you saying your girlfriend has prostate cancer?

  25. Self-help by RPI+Geek · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hope no one gets the terrible idea to try treating their cancer themselves by...

    What the fuck am I saying? This could be hilarious!

    I hope to hell that someone gets the idea to treat their cancer using the most direct method possible... and I hope that it ends up in the news :)

    --

    - "Nobody came out that night, not one was ever seen. But Old Man Stauf is waiting there, crazy sick and mean!"
    1. Re:Self-help by Directrix1 · · Score: 1

      Man, you obviously have never known anyone with cancer.

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    2. Re:Self-help by Serk · · Score: 1

      Sorry to go so completely off topic, but damn your signature! It made me go dig through my ancient archives and find my 7th Guest CD's to rip the music off! I'd been meaning to do that for years, and never got around to doing it...

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    3. Re:Self-help by RPI+Geek · · Score: 1

      Both my grandfathers died of cancer. My living grandmother survived mild melanoma. Laughter is one of the ways I cope... I don't want to explain the humor to you.

      --

      - "Nobody came out that night, not one was ever seen. But Old Man Stauf is waiting there, crazy sick and mean!"
    4. Re:Self-help by RPI+Geek · · Score: 0

      I've had a lot of people tell me that :)

      I want the last song too, but unfortunately it's all one track and I haven't gotten around to doing it yet either...
      ;-)
      What's that sound comin' from the dresser on a night as black as pitch?

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      - "Nobody came out that night, not one was ever seen. But Old Man Stauf is waiting there, crazy sick and mean!"
    5. Re:Self-help by mink · · Score: 1

      I ripped it years ago with wav recorder and the built in CD player in Windows 95.
      Great tune. Real shame they never sold a soundtrack for that. I wonder who the rights fell to when Trilobyte went away.

      --
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  26. Possible other uses for Pepper Spray.. by sinth · · Score: 3, Informative

    FTA reference;
    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capsaici n&oldid=43115117

    "Capsaicin is also the active ingredient in the chemical riot control agent pepper spray. When the spray comes in contact with skin, especially eyes or mucous membranes it is very painful."

    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_spray

    "Pepper spray (also known as OC spray (from "Oleoresin Capsicum"), OC gas, or capsicum spray) is a lachrymatory agent which is used in riot control, crowd control and personal self-defense, including defense against dogs. It is a non-lethal agent that can be deadly in rare cases. The American Civil Liberties Union claims to have documented fourteen fatalities from the use of pepper spray. The active ingredient in pepper spray is capsaicin, which is a chemical derived from the fruit of plants in the Capsicum genus, including chillis. Long-term effects of pepper spray have not been effectively researched."

    Apparently someone was curious.. (Mental image of evil scientist deviously spraying innocent mice with pepper spray while laughing .. deviously.)

    1. Re:Possible other uses for Pepper Spray.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so you are saying... rioting helps to prevent prostate cancer?

    2. Re:Possible other uses for Pepper Spray.. by mqduck · · Score: 1

      It is a non-lethal agent that can be deadly

      Uh-huh.

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  27. Re:Thanks for the info...I'm preparing right now.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make it for yourself. According to the summary, it wouldn't make a difference to her body.

  28. apoptosis song by bodrell · · Score: 1
    I very recently saw a seminar by Howard Shapiro, a scientist who, among other things, wrote a song about apoptosis. He performed it for us with accompanying music. Science songs are always great mnemonic devices.

    Two sample stanzas:

    When outer leaflets of cell membranes
    Let phosphatidylserine show,
    Labeled annexin V will bind there,
    And you can measure it in flow.

    Mitochondria deenergize
    And superoxide levels rise,
    But the nuclear signs of apoptosis
    Come later; then, the cell dies.
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  29. Just like the second law of thermodynamics by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny
    You can't win.

    Give up.

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    Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
  30. Now you know . . . by enrac · · Score: 1

    why indians don't get prostate cancer.

  31. A a scientist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    who works at Pfizer Global Research & Development, there are many natural substances that can treat diseases and conditions that are not known to the general public. For example, Lipitor, last year contributed to $13 BILLION of Pfizer's $16 BILLION profit. Drinkng 6 to 8 ounces of RED WINE per DAY (AND NO MORE!!!) will likely negate the need of Lipitor and similar drugs later in life for the treatment of elevated cholesterol and plaques in the arteries. The important point of this statement is that one cannot exceed 6 to 8 ounces of RED WINE per day, or else the effects of alcohol(ism) will have serious detrimental effects on the body. Google or Wikipedia 'resveratrol'.

    Big pharma doesn't like the general public knowing that natural compounds present in everyday foods can prevent/treat diseases/conditions that arise later in life due to certain metabolic syndromes/disorders/lifestyles, etc... How else would big pharma demand high prices for its 'miracale/block-buster drugs'?

    Since I'm a contract scientist working at Pfizer, and not employed by Pfizer, I feel obligated to tell the truth about some of the secrets hidden by the pharmaceutical industry. Don't read too much into what I've written, I'm not advocating the consumption of alcohol, but drinkning 6-8 ounces of red wine per day will keep high cholesterol and the doctor away, for a long, long time.

    1. Re:A a scientist... by slagell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And we know this anonymous coward is a "scientist" and consults for "Pfizer" because...
      Sounds an awful lot like a naturopath rhetoric coming from someone pretending to be in a position of authority.

    2. Re:A a scientist... by Mr.+Hankey · · Score: 1

      FWIW, grape juice should also do the trick. You can drink as much of it as you want without negating the effect, since it's non-alcoholic. Now, some might argue that you're missing out on the other effects of wine. I'll just say that you don't get a hangover from grape juice.

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    3. Re:A a scientist... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      I actually prefer drinking my fruit juice before it's rotten. I know I'm in the minority.

    4. Re:A a scientist... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      "I'll just say that you don't get a hangover from grape juice."

      How much to drink to have your ASS hung over the toilet?

      Oh, wait, I guess that would be prune juice... (Um, oh wait, if you're in SOME certain state, "prunes" is/was out of favor and "dried plums" was campaigned for very hard...)

      Maybe rub on the habaneros and then salve on the grape juice with some talcum powder.... preceded by an ice cube...

      --
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    5. Re:A a scientist... by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

      Um, no.

      Sure, perhaps red wine will lower your cholesterol. And more importantly, the benefits of red wine are trotted out in the press again and again, so lots and lots of people know this.

      But is the real problem that human beings tend to only ever address a problem *after* it becomes a problem (thus the need for lipitor), or that drug companies try to supress this information? The fact that it's in the press a lot, and that they never rebutt that press, tells me that they're not trying very hard to suppress this information.

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    6. Re:A a scientist... by posterlogo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is hardly something "hidden" by the pharmaceutical companies. There are many known natural compounds, like antioxidants, that will help prevent a vast number of ailments and diseases associated with aging. It's not like it's some big secret that eating healthy (vegetables, whole grains) and maintaining a reasonable exercise regiment is primarily what you need to age well. There are, of course, many other little novelties, like red wine, etc., but come on? You haven't seen enough of those little blurbs about "Tonight at 11, this miracle food will cure what ails you...find out what it is." They pop up all over the place. Lipitor is used to help people who are ALREADY symptomatic. It is NOT meant to be prescribed rampantly to just anyone as a preventative measure. There is absolutely no proof that red wine can help reverse alleviate elevated cholesterol or arterial plaques once they have formed. As a fellow, scientist, I'm surprised you wouldn't know to make this very important distinction. I have no problem with people using the knowledge that a little bit of red wine is good for the heart, but don't make it sound like it does the same thing as Lipitor.

    7. Re:A a scientist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anecdote: my wife put us all on the a macrobiotic-like food regimen. Lots of wholegrain rice, vegetables, beans, tofu, and so forth. Cut out soft drinks, milk and juice also. (beer still ok! phew) After 3 months of that I took my annual health checkup. Every measurement showed I was healther compared to the previous year. Lower blood pressure, lower LDL higher HDL, better digestive system, less clogged blood flow, kidney and liver indicators better, etc...

      Now, personally I'd love to have a nice juicy steak way more often than now, so I wasn't exactly looking for proof that the different food was better for me, but at least according to the health check, it was.

    8. Re:A a scientist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FWIW, grape juice should also do the trick.

      Not according to this: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/ DSH/resveratrol.html

    9. Re:A a scientist... by Mr.+Hankey · · Score: 1

      That's interesting, but I didn't see any references which back up the assertion that grape juice does not contain the compound. To the contrary in most of the references. Here's a paper I hunted down:

      http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemica ls/resveratrol/index.html#sources

      Since you can drink more grape juice than you can wine without losing its beneficial effects, it appears grape juice is an equally valid choice.

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    10. Re:A a scientist... by defile39 · · Score: 1

      Yikes. First off, the $16 billion is more like $61 billion. Second, big pharma is not hiding the benificial effects of red wine. I don't know how many news stories I've read about the benifits of red wine. Pfizer makes a killing off of selling lipitor because people don't eat healthy diets and excercize regularly. I was in a coversation with a doctor who called Lipitor a "lifestyle medication." This term usually refers to drugs like viagra (non-life saving). He described Lipitor as the drug you take after eating a McMeal and downing a 2 Liter of regular Coke. Pfizer doesn't need to hide information from people who generally don't care to use it.

    11. Re:A a scientist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      As a fellow, scientist, I'm surprised you wouldn't know to make this very important distinction.

      Someone needs a copy of "Eats, Shoots, and Leaves."

    12. Re:A a scientist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of arterial plaque, I saw this on the news the other day..
      http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=crestor&btnG=G oogle+Search&sa=N&tab=wn

  32. Cell Phones by XanC · · Score: 1

    I have big issues with a particular cell phone service company. They've got people thinking that "cingle" is a word!!

  33. Now only if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they could find a cure for haemmorhoids

    1. Re:Now only if... by draco664 · · Score: 4, Funny

      If a pepper-spray enema is the cure for prostate cancer, I'll swap you your haemmorhoids...

  34. Jalapeño suppositories anyone? by adolfojp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Having to choose between prostate cancer and jalapeño suppositories is definite proof that God exists and that he has a very sick sense of humor.

    1. Re:Jalapeño suppositories anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmmm, Master thinks this is an interesting and beneficial form of BDSM punishment... >-D

    2. Re:Jalapeño suppositories anyone? by rebelcan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Of course God exists, and he DEFINITLY has a sense of humour. Just look at the platypus.

      *note: to all the platypus lovers out there, this was meant in good humour. The platypus is a wonderful and noble creature. I sincerely apologize to all platypus enthusiasts out there who are offended by that thoughtless comment about platypi. It was not my intention to slight these stupid creatures in any way.

      --
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      Nietzsche is dead -- God
      Zombie Nietzsche lives! -- Zombie Nietzsche
    3. Re:Jalapeño suppositories anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It also sounds like last Friday night! Ouch!

    4. Re:Jalapeño suppositories anyone? by Idarubicin · · Score: 1
      Having to choose between prostate cancer and jalapeño suppositories is definite proof that God exists and that he has a very sick sense of humor.

      Actually, it's proof that God exists and that He is a woman.

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    5. Re:Jalapeño suppositories anyone? by CrankyOldBastard · · Score: 1

      Your comments have been forwarded to the platypuses, and you are now on their hit list - you do realise they have venomous spurs? One of the basic rules we teach our kids here in Oz is "Don't taunt platypuses". And "Only taunt wombats when it's not the mating season, as wombats are especially dangerous during the mating season.".

  35. Also, helps keep the pet population down by technoextreme · · Score: 1

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZBPGQ/002-27 72924-7220044?v=glance&n=1036592 It's so tough. Cats or protstate cancer. Cats or prostate cancer. Meh.. lets I'll go with masterbating. Have to keep the pet population down.

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  36. What are the rates in cultures that like hot food? by Palal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What are the rates in countries such as South Korea, where many foods are extremely spicy?

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  37. Burning sensation... by Ekhymosis · · Score: 0

    I don't have the clap! It's my prostate cancer pills. Honest!

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  38. Humans vs Mice by thepotoo · · Score: 1
    Lets try to reproduce the results in the same thing; then we'll be talking. Mice and humans have a fairly similar genome (98%, IIRC), but in case you haven't noticed, they're a little different (we're talking size here). It may be that if you feed small amounts of capcasin to a mouse, it will trigger apoptosis (intentional cell death). If you feed large amounts it will somehow be able to block apoptosis (ala retroviruses).
    As such, large amounts could cause cancer. Or, it could be that, in humans, capcasin always causes cancer.
    Who knows. We'll figure it out in a few years.

    Disclaimer: Above is basicly a wild theory. I haven't looked at mice or carcenogens in years.

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  39. Oh boy... by marcushnk · · Score: 1

    This has South Park written ALL OVER IT :-D

    In Fact, put it with this news article and you'll have one of the most deadly WMD (Weapon of Mass Derision) known to man!
    http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRe publish_1590861.htm

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  40. Oh God No. by RoffleTheWaffle · · Score: 1

    You know, something tells me that if I ever get prostate cancer, I'm just going to have to say no to this one. Something tells me that shoving hot peppers up my ass just isn't worth it.

    1. Re:Oh God No. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      up your ass? In the words of Dr. Zoidberg, guess again.....

    2. Re:Oh God No. by chinton · · Score: 1

      Note to self: stay away from Roffle's doctor.

  41. Remedial anatomy by martalli · · Score: 5, Informative

    A simple correction - your prostate is between your urethra and your rectum. In fact, the prostate makes most of the liquid in the ejaculate. If your prostate is too large (BPH), then the the urologist will sometimes do a TURP (also in the BPH article), where the urologist basically goes up your urethra and scoops out heaps of the prostate, in order to free up some space for the poor fellow to relieve himself.

    If concern for prostate cancer is raised, a biopsy is done with a terribly evil device that goes up the rectum and spears the prostate with six separate little needles. If they left a little capsaicin behind you would be so sore you wouldn't notice...However, the study as reported by the article was simply consumed capsaicin, not topically applied

    1. Re:Remedial anatomy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      Heh,
      A biopsy of the prostate is conducted with ultrasound guidance. In this procedure, the patient is asked to lie on his side in the "fetal crouch" position.
      Presumably to prepare you for how you will spend the next few days after the operation.
  42. Re:What are the rates in cultures that like hot fo by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    Well, I think the REAL question is whether cancer is caused / accelerated by the american eating habits and way-of-life (i.e. tons and tons of chemicals, fertilizers, and God-knows-what in your food and beverages).

  43. There be FLAMES shooting out my ass! by ip_freely_2000 · · Score: 4, Funny


    Loving spicy foods pays off! Finally, my wife will have to stop complaining when I aromitize the bedroom in the middle of the night.

    "But honey, it's part of my health management program!"

    1. Re:There be FLAMES shooting out my ass! by regen · · Score: 1

      Your username seem particular appropriate for this article. Your love of spicy food might explain it.

  44. Re:Thnks for the info...I'm preparing right now... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    "I'm cooking up a great big pot of hot hot hot chili for my girlfriend right now!"

    Was this modded insightful so he'd be encouraged to tell his girlfriend how much he cares about her prostate? Heh.

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  45. your wifes excuse for a hot pepper up her tush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just got answered

  46. Turmeric, too by RocketRainbow · · Score: 1

    Turmeric also prevents prostate cancer, especially when combined with cauliflower. Curry, anyone?

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  47. Hot pepper? by StuffThatDoesNotMatt · · Score: 1

    What about Hot Coffee?

    1. Re:Hot pepper? by MickLinux · · Score: 1

      Capsacin has not yet been shown to definitively prevent hot coffee; however, there is a marked decrease in coffee consumption (as an associated behavior) among those who have just eaten 4-5 jalopeno peppers.

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  48. But it does lead you to ask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Do countries that have generally high capsasin consumption have a lowered incidence of prostate cancer? If one compares countries that eat tons of peppers and ones that don't, if you compensate for age and other factors can you see if there is some kind of correlation?

    Very interesting.

    1. Re:But it does lead you to ask... by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Based in this, I would guess that prostate cancer is virtually nonexistent in South Korea, and not to mention Thailand.

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    2. Re:But it does lead you to ask... by dindi · · Score: 1

      I seem to recall my wife saying a few times, how hot pepper eating cultures have a general lower rate of cancers, surprisingly that includes gastrointestinal (stomach) cancers.

      Now that somehow also goes back to volcanic formations, as cancer seem to be a lot lower among people who live on volcanic rock..

      But don't quote these in your MD doctorate, it is the "I heard" category....

  49. Re:Thnks for the info...I'm preparing right now... by geekoid · · Score: 1

    She can tell him it will be good for his uterus.

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  50. Ya but... by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 1

    sure it will http://www.sammcgees.com/storegen//lst/C202/images /C202_6_flyer.jpg>Blow your Mind

  51. Ouch by Ticklemonster · · Score: 1

    I hate to ask where you put the peppers...

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    1. Re:Ouch by Coldeagle · · Score: 1

      Heartburn be damned! That's what Tums are for!!!

    2. Re:Ouch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever spit on your penis head after eating a pizza covered in those hot spices? It feels like someone's having a campfire weenie roast with your penis.

    3. Re:Ouch by veeoh · · Score: 1

      and you have?

      More info than I personally need fella..

  52. Ouch by dunadan67 · · Score: 1

    Well, I guess I'd rather suffer severe ulcers and heartburn my whole life than contract prostate cancer.

  53. funniest post ever by plopez · · Score: 1

    thanks, that was a good one :)

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  54. miracale by panaceaa · · Score: 1

    "miracale" (with a Spanish pronounciation) would be an excellent name for Pfizer jalapeno suppositories!

  55. Now let's see some human correlation... by niktemadur · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's all fine and well to joke about mexican food all over this thread, some of the zingers are very funny, but this gives me an idea: how about determining the incidence of prostate cancer in Mexico's population?

    As an example, one of the typical "delicacies" found in the city of Guadalajara is a dish called "torta ahogada" or "drowned torta", which is pork meat stuffed in baguette-style bread, dipped in tomato sauce, then again in ultra-hot chile de arbol sauce. Garnished with pickled onions, you squeeze lemon juice, add a little rock salt and dig in. A LOT of people in Guadalajara eat this on a regular basis.

    As a side note, just as in the United States some people bob for apples in a bucket full of water, there's one stand in Guadalajara that holds competitions, bobbing for tortas in a bucket full of chile de arbol sauce. The winner eats there free for a year. Strictly for masochists, if you ask me.

    Anyway, if we compare the percentage of prostate cancer cases in Guadalajara as opposed to, say, Minneapolis, maybe a "real world" result will stick out plainly and clearly. Then again, maybe not, maybe a race is genetically more susceptible to contract prostate cancer, I dunno, but to dig up the data would cost next to nothing and could be worth a try.

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    1. Re:Now let's see some human correlation... by sog_abq · · Score: 1

      About a year ago I was speaking to a nurse in Montana. She had been a nurse first in Hatch New Mexico, which is the Green chile (YUM!) capitol of the world, then Albuquerque, and finally up north in Billings. As anyone from New Mexico will tell you, green chile is amazingly tasty on all sorts of dishes. Anyway, she told me that she had noticed that colon cancer rates were really low in hatch, slightly higher in Albuquerque, and significantly higher in Montana. Her suggestion was that the consumption of hte chiles might be partly responsible. Its very interesting to hear a 'study' which confirms her intuition.

    2. Re:Now let's see some human correlation... by cliffy2000 · · Score: 1

      You (falsely) assume that all socioeconomic factors are equal. If there's a greater availability to medical care in Minneapolis, they will most likely diagnose a greater percent of cases than in Guadalajara. What about other dietary considerations?

      All that your proposed study could possibly accomplish is the demonstration of a strong correlation but it would not (without additional controls) demonstrate causation.

    3. Re:Now let's see some human correlation... by Idarubicin · · Score: 1
      Anyway, if we compare the percentage of prostate cancer cases in Guadalajara as opposed to, say, Minneapolis, maybe a "real world" result will stick out plainly and clearly. Then again, maybe not, maybe a race is genetically more susceptible to contract prostate cancer, I dunno, but to dig up the data would cost next to nothing and could be worth a try.

      The problem is that the results would also be worth what you paid for them: next to nothing.

      I can tell you right now that you'll get different results for incidence of prostate cancer when you compare Guadalajara and Minneapolis. I can also tell you that the rate in Minneapolis will, indeed, be higher.

      What I can't tell you is whether or not capsaicin is responsible for the difference. If we just look at dietary factors, it's safe to say that the Minneapolis diet is different from the Guadalajara diet in a lot of ways. Different amounts of fat and dietary fiber, right off the top, and I suspect that Minneapolis comes off worse in both categories.

      Average lifespan is longer in Minneapolis, and there is probably appreciably better access to medical care. There will be better prevention of other diseases, which permits more cancers (especially prostate cancer) time to develop. There will be better screening, which means that more cancers will be detected--many of which are likely to be slow-growing and not ultimately fatal.

      As the parent mentions, there may also be genetic factors; the populations being compared are definitely genetically distinct.

      In other words, such a comparison would be very difficult to draw any useful correlation from. It could probably be used to show just as easily that tequila is associated with lower risk of prostate cancer.

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  56. Shouldn't the headline say... by TriZz · · Score: 0

    Shouldn't the headline say something like "Hot peppers causes extreme depression in prostate cancer cells, 80% suicide rate?

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  57. Purple Grape Juice by Morris+Schneiderman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Purple grape juice reportedly has the same beneficial effects.

  58. oblig by kertong · · Score: 1

    "I can't swallow that!"
    "Well then, good news! It's a suppository!"

  59. Always apply liberally! by eonlabs · · Score: 1

    Take a generous helping of Jalapeno Jelly and apply liberally to your penis 3 times daily, If you're still worried about a little lump after a week, you should seek a psychiatrist for further advice.

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  60. Meanwhile, with more useful news: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Researchers have found that Hot Coffee assists Prostate Cancer

  61. Just guarding against cancer.... by Warg!+The+Orcs!! · · Score: 1

    So we can add a dowl of hot chili to that other safe-guard against prostate cancer
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3072021.stm/

    All they need to do now is prove the health benefits of beer and my life will be complete.

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    1. Re:Just guarding against cancer.... by procrastitron · · Score: 1

      All they need to do now is prove the health benefits of beer and my life will be complete

      Beer has indirect benefits in that it gives you strong urges to fight cancer

    2. Re:Just guarding against cancer.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > All they need to do now is prove the health benefits of beer and my life will be complete.

      You mean like this?

      http://www.askmen.com/sports/foodcourt/45_eating_w ell.html

  62. Capsaicin almost as good as garlic by Pedrito · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Capsaicin is like garlic, or tea. You can't get too much of it and it does great things for you. Capsaicin has several cardiovascular benefits. It's an anti-coagulant and it also lowers cholesterol and triglycerides. It's an analgesic (particularly effective against pain caused by nerve disorders and arthritis). It's also an effective topical analgesic (though I suspect in very weak mixtures, since it burns like hell otherwise).

    Capsaicin kills the bacteria responsible for most stomach ulcers thus, contrary to popular opinion, it actually protects against stomach ulcers. As most people might surmise, it's excellent for clearing congestion.

    If you need to lose weight, start eating hot sauce. Capsaicin increases the metabolism, thermogenesis, and oxygen consumption.

    If you find hot sauce "too hot", then work your way up. Start with mildly hot sauces and slowly increase the heat over time. Most web sites that specialize in selling hot sauces also have the Scoville ratings for those sauces, so you can do be methodical about it if you want. Your body builds up a tolerance for the burning sensation in the mouth and before long, you'll find yourself able to eat sauces you didn't think you could. You just need to be consistent and eat some every day. I try to consume at least 3 teaspoons of 12,000 Scoville salsa a day.

    My personal preference is El Yucateco Salsa Kutbil-ik de. It's a brown Mayan style habanero salsa from the Yucatan. I'm kind of partial to it 'cause I lived in the Yucatan for several years and it's pretty popular there. They also make a red sauce (6000 Scovilles) and a green (9000 Scovilles).

    1. Re:Capsaicin almost as good as garlic by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      According to colper's compleat herbal and medical too much garlic can worsen any melancholy that you have. I'm not sure if there's any modern research into those kind of side effects though.

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    2. Re:Capsaicin almost as good as garlic by drew · · Score: 1

      Capsaicin is like garlic, or tea. You can't get too much of it and it does great things for you.

      Much as I like garlic, you most certainly can eat too much of it. It won't affect your health, mind you, but it can have affects on your social life. Unlike most other foods, the garlic odor can be both absorbed and excreted through your skin. I discovered this after one particulary garlicy meal, when my skin and clothes smelled like garlic for almost two days afterwards, and neither showering nor changing clothes had any affect.

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  63. Re:Thanks for the info...I'm preparing right now.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And all this time I thought Robert Smith was singing about lightning...

  64. See, there's a reason I like it hot! by tekcsound · · Score: 1

    Hey, maybe now everyone in my family won't complain when I dump in the cayenne pepper into all my dishes!

  65. Egads! by Xaemyl · · Score: 1

    Bring on Blair's 6AM (10 - 16 million Scoville Units)! Heheh

  66. Kill the Borg off? YOU will be... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    ASS-IMMoLAted...

    (You'll need on big-assed dermal regenerator and 6 months of Holosuite privileges to pass the time..)

    (HEHEHEH "SMEARED" was the anti-script confirm word!!!!)

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  67. New Bar Game! by glassgnost · · Score: 1

    Play this right, and Intra-Urethra Pepper Spray could become the next great "Bar Game". Hell, I was stationed in Texas when they swapped out the digital displays on the house breathalyzer units with pass/fail leds because the rednecks were having contests to see who could blow the highest number -- and some drunk cowboy would inevitably spew Jack Daniels (with traces of tobaccy juice) into the sensor.

    The point being, if someone's willing to pay bar prices to get loaded where they have to drive past the Sherrif to get home -- and are entertained by flashing neon beer logos -- you can sell 'em ANYTHING.

  68. not the whole story by penguin-collective · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is typical for how scientists try to make the best out of bad experimental results. Yes, it's true that 80% of the cancer cells committed suicide, but that's because 80% of the mice themselves committed suicide when the capsaicin was "applied" to their prostates. You would, too.

    Some of the mice hung themselves, while some others shot themselves; the scientists still haven't figured out where they got the ropes and guns, which only underlines how painful the treatment is.

    1. Re:not the whole story by Redwin · · Score: 1

      Some of the mice hung themselves, while some others shot themselves; the scientists still haven't figured out where they got the ropes and guns, which only underlines how painful the treatment is.

      Cutscene to a group of mice of mice sitting around the twisted remains of a mouse wheel.

      Lead mouse: "Your only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!".

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    2. Re:not the whole story by indytx · · Score: 1
      Some of the mice hung themselves, while some others shot themselves; the scientists still haven't figured out where they got the ropes and guns, which only underlines how painful the treatment is.

      Maybe they were all named "Brisby."

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  69. Mod OP down. by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I was about to say.

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  70. Order some from Fire Girl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.firegirl.com/1259-02.html That's the hottest I've ever tried. My mouth and throat were on fire for about 30 minutes. This is way to hot for anything other than adding a few drops to your soup/stew, etc. I tried it with a drop straight on tongue. Not recommended for girly men. If you can handle the heat try: http://www.firegirl.com/1274-02.html or Scorned Woman Hot Sauce - http://www.firegirl.com/hs1130.html

  71. More important: "fresh" by JavaRob · · Score: 1

    You mixed up the details (as others pointed out) but the end result here is you'd be eating an average of 2.4 fresh habaneros a day.

    That's not so much, but I do worry about that little word: "fresh".
    I can eat some chilis by themselves once they're cooked (or out of a jar), but even jalapenos (much milder than habaneros) freshly cut can be tough to eat without coughing.

    I'm guessing the heat affects the capsaicin....

  72. Trust me boys......... by Nurseferatu · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm a nurse. This is great news! I can just come out with capsaicin impregnated catheters, and make my fortune. Just slide it on in and the timed release of all those scoville units will make your cancer cells end it all. Some patients may experience some side effects.....

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  73. Oh good by Susceptor · · Score: 0

    Just ate a sandwich with 4 hot peppers...and I KNOW I will be sorry in the morning. But at least I can thank the gods for the health benefits while I'm agonizing :)

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  74. As a chili-head... by Hakubi_Washu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...I'm very glad to hear this (though it is, like most stories involving cancer, FUD or euFUD, it's "positive" counterpart). I will happily continue to put Dave's Insanity Sauce on my dishes :-) Anyone knows where I can get DI Spice or Vicious Vampire in Germany cheaper than at pepperworld.de (Especially VV is expensive at 10)? I want to try upgrading myself from grade 9 (50000-100000 Scoville) to grade 10 (100000-500000 Scoville), the hottest possible stuff (All above 500000 Scoville isn't produced for food, because humans apparently can't distinguish the taste anymore) for bragging reasons :-P

    1. Re:As a chili-head... by StressedEd · · Score: 1
      Presumably you have heard of "Blair's 16 Million Reserve". This looks seriously dangerous. There is a write up about this stuff on the hot sauce blog.

      Anyone?

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    2. Re:As a chili-head... by Hakubi_Washu · · Score: 1

      I had indeed heard about pure Capsaicin Crystals, but using them directly is not really interesting to me (besides the obvious freak factor :-P), because I still want some other tastes to be picked up by my tongue simultaneously, thus anything over 500000 Scoville (SCO-Ville? Now that's a thought...) is not practical. Nice thing to have in the cupboard for freaking out friends and mothers, I'd say :-)

  75. Eat your vegtables by Joebert · · Score: 1

    "It's too hot daddy, I don't want to eat it !" Just eat it son, it's good for you. "Will it make me big & strong ?" ...

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  76. Wait! Is SCO claiming copyright on that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe they'll sue chillie sauce manufacturers next?

  77. Not the pepper by Gadzinka · · Score: 1

    Capsaicin is the "active agent" (AA) in chilli pepper, not just pepper. Black pepper (known where I live as just "pepper") has different AA.

    Robert

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  78. Once again I am proved right by Timberwolf0122 · · Score: 1

    Chillies are the cure for everything!*

    * Okay maybe not IBS....

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  79. A killer substance by dNil · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The apoptotic path involved in capsaicin killing of cancer cells - its been previously shown to induce suicides in other kinds of cancer cells as well - is not the only road to cell death that hot chili takes us down.

    One of the more memorable factoids from a neurobiology course I took years back was that the long-term desenzitation that one experiences from enjoying a capsaicin-rich diet is due to cell death in the taste buds. Short term adaptation does occur via another mechanism, but tastbud necrosis is important in the long term. This also explains why you feel the impact of the tex mex spice much more after not having had any for a few months - you have regrown the previously killed taste buds!

    The tast bud death is however a necrotic effect - cell killing, via a vanilloid receptor - rather than suicide. See e g Caterina MJ et al, Nature 1997.

  80. it works but.... by PermanentMarker · · Score: 1

    it's so hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot.

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  81. Chili Facts - For the Tech Minded by cyberjack88 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Chili Facts When the heat content of a pepper is measured in Scoville units, a bell pepper rates zero, a jalapeno is 2,500 to 5,000 units, a cayenne 30,000 to 50,000 and the habanero, considered the hottest pepper, 100,000 to 500,000. They release endorphons into the brain, promoting a sense of well being. Chilies also can be used to remove barnacles from ships.

  82. Units by Marce1 · · Score: 1

    3 - 8 Huh-something peppers. Is it true for all hot peppers?

    How much is that in Korma, Jalfeizi or Vindaloo?
    (We don't have a Mexican place nearby; spicy --> Indian in the UK).

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  83. In other news by harris+s+newman · · Score: 0

    85% of all cannibles state that people who participate in this study taste better!

  84. Sounds good by ajs318 · · Score: 1

    I've long suspected a good Vindaloo was good for you! Now they've just got to find a way to prove that having anything covering your lower arms is bad for you .....

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  85. Re:What are the rates in cultures that like hot fo by fdiskne1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As soon as I read the article, I did a Google search for prostate cancer and hispanic. I found this page which states:

    Hispanic-American and Native-American men have lower rates of prostate cancer than do white men. Worldwide, the lowest rates of prostate cancer are in Asian countries; the highest rates of prostate cancer are in Northern European countries.

    Seems to support the theory!

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  86. Hot Peppers may kill cancer by SlippyToad · · Score: 1
    But hot pepper-inspired farts kill friendships, destroy marriages, and drive close family members away.

    Oh well.

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  87. Couldn't be worse than the current treatment... by thesandtiger · · Score: 1

    My father recently was diagnosed with prostate cancer. The treatments that have been discussed included castration (surgical or chemical), radiation, chemo-therapy, rather invasive surgery and a whole host of other things that have got rather unfortunate side effects.

    He's opted for the radiation - they actually put radioactive gold "seeds" in the area (yes, he's got gold pellets up his ass) and is getting daily radiation treatments. He's also been getting something to reduce his testosterone - which should help also keep the cancer from spreading. He's 81 years old, and, while in otherwise good health (he still works, and enjoys it) it is very unlikely that he's going to make a full recovery - likely his productive life is over, and for him that's *huge*. His best friend - they've known each other since before World War II - recently died from a similar cancer, though his friend didn't detect as early and didn't treat as aggressively.

    So, I think I can say I'm 90% sure he'd be willing to try something like this - hell, he'd probably go to the store and buy some jalapenos right now and cram them up his ass - if it were likely to work and less overall damaging to his system.

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  88. why not inject the active ingredient? by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    A lot of posters here on commented on the gastro-intestinal affects of capsaicin. Especially for those who already have bad stomachs.

    Couldn't't they somehow make this into an injectable?

  89. And they all thought I was crazy... by AlecLyons · · Score: 1

    When I put that habanero up my ass

  90. Habañeros, you mean. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The levels of capsaicin we're talking about is more in line with several of the hottest habañero peppers. We're talking several orders of magnitude hotter than jalapeños ;) Sick sense of humour indeed.

  91. Hell yes by jotate · · Score: 1

    Hot peppers saved my ass.

    1. Re:Hell yes by chawly · · Score: 1

      Thought so - but something had to.

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  92. better headline by Luyseyal · · Score: 1
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      Hooray for Nuclear Tacos!

  93. Sorry, wrong answer by lheal · · Score: 1
    Not so. Frijoles, known to be destined for gringo intestines, were not soaked overnight.

    That was funny, but not so insightful.

    Soaking beans does make them easier to digest, but improper soaking is not the sole reason they increase intestinal gas. Almost any food you don't eat on a regular basis can cause gas. Has to do with enzyme buildup.

    Gringos who don't eat beans very much are going to suffer. Unless, like me, you go in for that. Sometimes I eat a cucumber, and then make a nice bean soup. Throw in some navy beans, kidney beans, red beans, black beans, pintos, great northerns, and a healthy dose of the dreaded garbanzo. Top it off with a tart green apple, just a little unripe. Really packs a wallop.

    The key is to mix in a bunch of foods you don't normally eat. Why, if I were to eat a few sprigs of asparagus and some broccoli, foods which I normally can't stand for their smell when cooked, the output would do Old Faithful proud.

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  94. Reminds me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's a spicy 'a meatball!

  95. Ob: Futurama by weeboo0104 · · Score: 0

    I wonder if there's any way for a local application to the prostate instead of standard ingestion.

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  96. Birds and capsaicin... by sean.peters · · Score: 3, Informative
    Most birds, incidentally, don't have receptors that capsaicin works with, so they can eat peppers all day long and not have a problem.

    This property comes in really handy if squirrels start stealing from your birdfeeder. Just mix a healthy dose of cayenne pepper with the birdseed - the squirrels lose interest really fast, but the birds don't even notice. The only trouble is that the cayenne tends to cause the seed to stick together into a big solid mass when it gets damp. Also, refilling, emptying, and cleaning the birdfeeder can become an interesting process when you have clouds of cayenne pepper forming around you!

    Sean

    1. Re:Birds and capsaicin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using pepper seeds instead of ground pepper should avoid clumping...

  97. Oh, the burning by abb3w · · Score: 1
    it would be in a pill form, so there would be no taste or burning of the mouth.

    One of my college housemates was wont to mooch some of my food from the fridge... which was fine, as I regularly mooched his back. What proved him an idiot was including a whole habanero pepper from the bag labeled "hot peppers" in with his stirfry. He didn't have problems with most spicy peppers, and enjoys the red thai ones. The habanero's heat surprised him... so much that he abruptly swallowed. He said for the next two days that he was aware every second of exactly how far along the pepper was. And was Not Happy about it.

    The entire gastrointestinal tract is sensitive mucus membranes, and concentrated capsicum can irritate anywhere the length of it. A time release MIGHT work, but I'd expect side effects.

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  98. I bet you thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you were doing a really great job for the first 5 seconds ;p

    1. Re:I bet you thought... by locotx · · Score: 1

      I believe the transcript of those 5 seconds are: oooo . .baby . .that's hot . . Mmmm . .thats' sooooo Hot . .. Oh . . OH Damn? . . BABY? . .BABY that's HOT! . . Really HOT! . . OH!!? . . DAMN THAT's HOTT!!!! . . . OH HELL!!! . . .AAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!

  99. Seriously by airship · · Score: 1

    In light of this experiment, I'd like to see a study of how prevalent prostate cancer is among Hispanic and/or Asian men whose diet regularly includes a lot of spicy foods. If it's lower, then they may be onto something.
    Either way, I'll keep eating spicy stuff. I'm already convinced it's good for keeping away colds and flu.
    Besides, it's tasty. :P

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  100. The bad news... by cparisi · · Score: 1

    is that you need to shove the pepper up your bum...

    1. Re:The bad news... by chawly · · Score: 1

      Thought so.

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  101. There's already a special variety ... by jc42 · · Score: 1

    Just for this purpose, a special variety of pepper has been developed. So the horticulturalists are ahead of the medical people this time. You can also find this pepper is several catalogs. Google for "peter pepper" to find some sources online. The eBay photos are among the best, but those peppers were selected for the photo. In reality, the plant produces a lot of rather distorted and strangely-shaped pepers. Only a few look as phallic as those samples.

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  102. And At Your Local Pharmacy by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    You can buy this new wonder vegetable drug in the Rub-On-"Salsa"-Cream, or Suppository Application

  103. Re:There's already a special variety ... by jc42 · · Score: 1

    Oops; here's the special link to that variety of pepper.

    Something weird happened when I hit the Preview button, which produced a preview page, but when I submitted it, I was told that I'd already submitted the message. So I found it, and sure enough, it was a bit garbled and truncated. So I cut the link out and put it above, where it might work better.

    Now let's see what the Preview button does ...

    OK; that seems to have worked. Now I'll hit Submit ...

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  104. That amount of capsaicin is equivalent to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    3 kilos of tabasco sauce. weekly.

  105. Drying Habs by renehollan · · Score: 1
    15 habs dried (in a dehydrator), and ground, make about a tablespoon of chili pepper powder. It's a damn site hotter than just about anything you can buy, with the exception of exotic extracts and lasts quite a while.

    FWIW, I do remove the seeds but retain as much of the placenta (where most of the capcaiscin is stored) as possible, so the resulting powder is more orange than red.

    Great on eggs, chicken, pizza, aw heck, just about anything. I tend to use a pinch when I make vindaloo if it isn't hot enough, though I generally use dried red serranos or arbols when making vindaloo (about a tablespoon per two pounds of meat).

    Don't try this at home, but if you must, here's what you do:

    1. Get a bunch of habs: 15 to 30 nice red ones. Get Red Savina® if you like them really hot.

    2. Slit them open, and cut off the stem. Remove the seeds, but try to retain as much of the white, fleshy placenta and ribs as possible. You may want to wear gloves while doing this: I'm a veteran at it (read: don't bother with gloves) and still get burns on my hands from time to time -- they take about 4-6 hours to really start burning, so you won't notice when you're cutting them up. The occasional burn doesn't bother me all that much: it burns more when the skin is heater (like in the shower or tub), but YMMV. Be careful what you do touch after slicing open the habs.

    3. Arrange them non-overlapping in a food dehydrator. Cut big one in half so all the pieces are about the same size. Food dehydrators can be purchased for US$30 to US$50. They're great for drying all sorts of things (onions, garlic, fruit, etc.) and making beef jerky.

    4. Dry for 8 to 12 hours (overnight) or until they are completely dry.

    5. Grind up the dried peppers in a blade coffee grinder used only to grind spices.

    6. Wait for the powder to settle. Carefully sift through a strainer to get a consistent size. Try to not get too much of it airborne -- it will irritate your eyes, nose, throat, etc. While stinging and hot, this is not likely to be fatal, but you might think your eyes and nose are about to bleed if you do get exposed.

    7. Transfer to a spice jar, close tightly, and store in a cool, dark place. The freezer works well for maximum freshness, but any remaining humidity will lead to cluming.

    Add as desired to food. It takes a while for the burn of habs to be noticible, so go slow at first.

    Instead of grinding the dried habs, you may want to keep the pieces as intact as possible, stored in a freezer bag in the freezer, and grind them as required, or in small quantites to keep in a spice jar in the pantry. That's useful if you have a lot of habs.

    You could also partially grind or crush them into flakes, for use over pasta, for example, where flakes are better than powder, but I find that the fruity flavour does not go all that well with pasta. I prefer arbols for this purpose.

    Notice: I think, that in Canada, this process consitutes the manufacture of a weapon, and might be quite illegal. Check with your lawyer. (It probably is illegal in the U.S. too, if weapon's manufacture is your intent.)

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  106. Re: slight discomfort by Migraineman · · Score: 1

    I can envision the doctor saying "you may feel a slight pinch ..." Between the scooping and the biopsy, I wish I could give you "+1 Disturbing" mod points, but "Informative" will have to do.

  107. Dave's Insanity Sauce by The_Dougster · · Score: 1
    I love super spicy food, and I regularly put a couple blobs of Dave's Insanity Sauce on my food.

    Try adding a small blob on the end of a hot dog sometime. If you aren't used to hot stuff you will be rolling on the floor. For me it barely fazes me now, although if I don't eat the stuff pretty regularly then my tolerence goes back down.

    It's also great for practical jokes };-)>

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  108. Totally incorrect - look at receptor expression by Brown+Eggs · · Score: 1

    According to a paper by Sanchez et al (2005) titled "Expression of the transient receptor potential vanilloid 1 (TRPV1) in LNCaP and PC-3 prostate cancer cells and in human prostate tissue." the vanilloid receptor is expressed in these prostate cells. In fact, this is very often the case - cancer cells express extracellular markers and receptors drastically different from their "normal" counterparts. This has been a source of intense study, since it is possible to target cancer cells and not normal cells this way (by finding the difference). So really the effect on these cancer cells probably has nothing to do with neurons - it has to do with the expression of these vanilloid receptors (which are the receptors for Capsaicin)

  109. I love my penis, slashdot , and hot food!!!!! by ILKO_deresolution · · Score: 0

    like this

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  110. Re: slight discomfort by Doobie+Dan · · Score: 1

    I wish I could give you "+1 Disturbing" mod points, but "Informative" will have to do. ...says the person who just posted.

  111. Age catches up with us all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never had anything "burn twice" until I hit 40. Used to eat raw habeneros, pickled jalapenos, homicide wings, you name it - if it could get in the front end it wouldn't bother me at all once past the gullet.

    Nowadays I understand what all those other guys were crying about all those years. I still love the hot stuff, but I draw the line just this side of habeneros and Thai bird peppers. It's not worth the agony.

    Enjoy your youth while, you've got it, my friend. I don't regret anything (well, maybe that time I ate that girl's necklace, but... never mind).

  112. Hold your breath! by jonskerr · · Score: 1

    >then pulling the covers up right by your spouse's face

    This hijink known as the 'covered wagon.'

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    1. Re:Hold your breath! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      also known as "the Dutch Oven"...
      More dumb fart references here.

  113. Re:What are the rates in cultures that like hot fo by fbjon · · Score: 1

    the highest rates of prostate cancer are in.. ..ye gods! Bring me that suppository, stat!

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  114. I call bullshit by jonskerr · · Score: 1

    Cayenne peppers have 30,000 - 50,000 Scoville units. Pure capsaicin is 16,000,000 scoville units. You're full of hot shit. OTOH, I find nothing to contradict your other comments, which seem quite interesting.

    http://members.visi.net/~mandy/pepguide.html has a nice pictorial guide
    http://www.chemsoc.org/exemplarchem/entries/mbellr inger/scoville.htm has another decent chart.
    Anyone can google capsaicin or "scoville units" for tons of info.

    Jon

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  115. Re:What are the rates in cultures that like hot fo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the other hand, Korea is known for having one of the highest rates of digestive-tract cancers. Yes, it is thought to be associated with their over-spicy food, though I wouldn't know whether it means:

    1) the spices themselves are toxic

    2) they mask other flavors that would alert people to bad food

    3) slightly toxic synthetic chemicals are being added to increase the spices' oomph.

  116. Re: slight discomfort by drivekiller · · Score: 1

    A prostate biopsy feels like someone is shooting a bb-gun pointblank up your asshole. And then you get to piss pink for a couple of days.

    It's much less painful than recuperating from the cancer surgery.

  117. Re:Chili Facts - For the Tech and Bloody Minded by chawly · · Score: 1

    This happy thought caught my eye:-

    "Chilies also can be used to remove barnacles from ships."
    I have only one thing to add:-
    That ain't an exhaustive list, but it is a new item. Did you ever encounter the song "Barnacle Bill the sailor" ?
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  118. Re:Chili Facts - For the Tech and Bloody Minded by cyberjack88 · · Score: 1

    The full exhaustive list can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoville_scale Do you mean... Who's that knocking at my door? Who's that knocking at my door? Who's that knocking at my door? Said the fair young maiden! It's only me from over the sea said Barnacle Bill the sailor... etc. etc. etc.

  119. Re:Chili Facts - For the Tech and Bloody Minded by chawly · · Score: 1

    "full exhaustive list can be found....." But it doesn't include our friend Barnacle Bill does it ? So it isn't exhaustive, is it ? "Do you mean..." yes, that is indeed the song that came to mind. And Bill had gotten off of his ship had he not .... and without the help of chili peppers. I know I'm being bloody minded, but I think you have to admit that I've shown "proof of concept". (I acknowledge a lack of seriousness here - sorry about that, but couldn't resist it.) Have a really good day !

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  120. Burning Ring of Fire....... by LinuxLuver · · Score: 1

    So the tumor would be smaller, but the side-effects could be most uncomfortable......

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