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A Look at Microsoft's Security War Room
Josh Fink writes "C|Net has an interesting piece about Microsoft's Security War Room, or rather, shall I say rooms. This room came about when Microsoft's security chief, Mike Nash, had issues finding open conference rooms. The response; a dedicated room only for him and his staff to handle emergencies. "And while he was at it, why not have two? That way, the folks working on fixing a security crisis could have a little breathing room from those drafting the public and customer communications around the issue. ""
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Anyone notice that all the swivel chairs are bolted to the ground? I wonder why they made them fixed and permanent.
And in one of them, you will find a WinMe machine wanting to challenge you to a tick-tack-toe.
Viruses, backdoors, security holes, buffer overflows, trojans galore... and they get a room. Ooooh, they're so dedicated to security!
But do they have a ping-pong table???
"OSHA has requested that they remove all chairs from the premises for employee safety."
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I get that they call it the "Security War Room" but what is it used for?
They have a big sign out front indicating security, but they don't even have locks on the kitchen cabinets.
The front page still has a former M$ employee talking about bugs being denied and going unfixed for months and years. The spin room is a lie room. It's not surprising they hate GNU/Linux, free software and anything else that allows users to talk to each other openly.
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
Is it just me or is slashdot's headlines as of late running parallel to the average idiots way of describing everything as a war?
Somewhat disconcerting, and humorous at the same time seeing as MS has a 'war room'. All while knowing of the monumental failures of current wars. E.g 'war on drugs' 'war on poverty' 'war on obesity', etc.
I guess just add 'war against standards compliancy' to the list.
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Maybe I didn't examine the cabinets closely enough, but all the "food" in the slideshow picture was either coffee or items you'd use to flavor coffee. I know the old joke about programmers being machines that turn caffeine into code, but...
Microsoft's top engineers relentlessly persue their war on security.
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Picture #4 is clearly their engineering conference room as defined in the article and without getting into specifics I expected more.
P.S. The fact it's often standing-room-only in a real crisis speaks to how cheap they went IMHO and little about chair throwing since "he" would never show up to one of these
That's just my POV... no more, no less.
But where is the "sekrit world headquarters" of Linux that they intend to nuke?
Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic.
One dedicated fix team for all that code?
That wouldn't make sense at all, there's too much for anyone to grasp. It would be like a dedicated fix team that cover Linux+KDE+OpenOffice. (replace Linux with OpenSolaris or *BSD if you like, KDE with Gnome or some other high-feature window/session/desktop manager if you like)
It's to complex to keep aware of the ins-and-outs of everything - just one of those would be hard enough. Each project should have their own dedicated fix team - The top-string regular devs for the project (hence they understand the code), maybe one or two outsiders (another perspective), who normally work on the specific project, but drop everything and work on fixes if they occur.
Also, it never said that they didn't (or for that matter, did) already have a dedicated team then (or now), simply that until '05, they had to share conference rooms.
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When I read there were two rooms, my first reaction was: one to work on the current security threat, a second to work on the security threats created by the first one...
...where the lawyers can nap?
If a baby duck is a "duckling," why would anyone want to eat "dumplings?"
It's a backup for when the first room crashes!
- a bag of pretzels
- a couple bottles of hersheys chocolate syrup
- one can of soda or juice
- a couple containers of nondairy creamer
- 3 bottles that look like liquor bottles
All that to feed a group of engineers that "gets hit with an emergency and has to pull an all-nighter."Sounds like a typical geek diet to me.
Post-op greasy haired poster-tranny 'Ina Fried' ....talk about needing a junk filter. Toss this 'reporter' out along w/goatse.
Zero. A wall, a guy with a coffee machine, an image of some other guy, and a standard briefing room.
it's nice that it's so clearly stated exactly why there is this "war room". We have similar requests by various teams in our organization as if a war room is some amazing thing that you just can't live without. In reality it's almost always because some asshat can't be bothered to book meeting rooms in advance. If all the rooms are always booked, add more rooms. What you end up with is a room that no one else can use and except in dire situations, no one is using at ALL.
The sign out front looks like it had a bigger budget than the room itself.
Truthfully, it looks just like any other conference room, except they have fewer food items in the cabinets, and the place looks much less professional. I dare say it even looks cheaply done.
There is no one in those rooms!
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I expected this, not some crummy office with a conference table.
Why do I get a vision of Jack Bauer taking orders from Bill Gates to wipe some Chinese online terrorists off the map from some CTU-like complex?
The game.
The photo with Harvey Keitel. All they need now is start listening to the man.
So it's not like the Maytag commercials where the old repair guy is reading a newspaper and bored for lack of work?
"You can't patch in here, this is the Microsoft Security War Room!"
I've been in a few war rooms, control centers, command centers, etc etc etc over the years. Even helped design one a little. 4 Flat screens is all they've got? Four? That's no war room. Scuffle closet maybe?
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Actually, it's not. Someone obviously screwed up the story. To fix it, just read "war room" as "blood bath".
But where is the "sekrit world headquarters" of Linux that they intend to nuke?
The Antarctic, of course. Haven't you seen the Linux mascot?
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So basically this is where they decide how they're gonna cover-up a vulnerability, what it would cost if it were public and based on that, how much they're gonna spend to silence whoever discovered it for good.
A vulnerability must have a huge cost to justify developing, testing and publishing an update for it. In a FLOSS project, it's just as simple as writing the patch and merging it with the tree. For them, it's much, much worse. If there's no benefit for MS to fix something, they won't.
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This war room looks like the "computer room" of a cheap shit computer school, where they teach Word courses for $75.00.
Totally shitty looking, uninspired. If you have to fight in this environment, you feel like a looser already.
"Gentlemen, you can't patch sotware here! This is the security war room!"
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...when Slashdot top headlines are belittled to a boring meeting room at Microsoft.
How ironic.
And in the previous photograph, entitled 'And this is our food cupboard': Some syrups, a bag of pretzels and instant coffee. Obviously, they don't take security problems that seriously.
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Seriously, a few photos of a conference room? And Harvey Keitel and an espresso machine? This is just a room where people sit down to discuss issues. Just like in every office everywhere in the world, except this one has some TVs on the wall. Can I please have that 10 minutes of my life back?
Someone should photoshop that first pic so that the Dell flatpanel shows either a BSOD or "All your base are belong to us" message.
It seems fitting they have a picture of Harvey Keitel playing The Wolf character from Pulp Fiction hung on the wall.
I've had to clean up after a large scale Microsoft failure a few times, and it the whole process did seem like going on "Brain Detail" in the back of a car.
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The Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC) was completed in June 2005. Why would anyone shill 2+ year old "news"?
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Gentlemen there's no fighting in here. This is the war room.
I imagine a bunker outfitted with state of the are iLoo's and binders labeled "targets in megadeath". Purity of essence!
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Sounds like Ina's junk was filtered some time ago. But be nice, trannies are people too.
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No need to even RTFA.
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as modern technology should have replaced having to require dedicated meeting rooms... aren't videoconferencing and whiteboard software up to the task yet??? It should enable people to have meetings across several timezones without having to go to the trouble of all traveling to one place...
or is this just some form of juvenile office politics... look, my meeting must be important, all these people had to drop everything to come to it...
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That is just so cheap with the VGA cable hanging from the projector like that! Haven't they ever heard of trunking?!
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one of the biggest software companies in the world got not only one, but two unused conference rooms!
I smell a Pulitzer on its way.
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A picture of Harvey Keitel from Pulp Fuction? What, no Dr. Strangelove pics available?
Also, I have to wonder how wise it is for C|Net to post that picture in light of this article, especially since it bears the legend "(C) CNET Networks."
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It looks like Microsoft is so cheap on security that they couldn't even spring for a long enough cable to the projector to keep it from hanging down in the middle of the conference room table. Someone should tell them that the shortest is not always the best route.
Please wear a helmet; look out for flying chairs.
Make it show an OS X desktop.
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// MD_Update(&m,buf,j);
I'm sure they're vastly simplifying their processes. This seems to just be a triage centre (and a fairly rudimentary one too). I doubt the actual fixing takes place here, rather just co-ordinating that process.
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More than meets the eye:
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How boring.
that's kinda what I was trying to say, but you were much more concise.
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I wonder if those two rooms are connected via a corridor, making an 'H' shaped building.
Heh. Feeding the trolls, but... my machine looks like it's at 10.5.1. Hmm. So much for that 3 years line.
Wow Microsoft has office meeting rooms too? What a concept let's tell the world what i discovered. I want my braincells back i lost after reading this
I wonder if Apple has a "war room"?
If they do, I think iScrewed would be an apt name for it. Of course it wouldn't be used nearly as much as Microsoft's... hmm... maybe thats where they come up with all the Mac vs. PC ads.
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...on security, of course. Not much unlike the ongoing war on terror.
If it walks like a shill, writes like a shill, chances are it is a shill.
Quoting your own posts as "proof" is really lame, especially when they are clearly being debunked in the original thread. Do you figure no one will bother to actually click on your link and read through? Jeez.
For some reason I think that if the description had included FTFA: "The Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC) was completed in June 2005. The engineering conference room includes four flat-panel screens that can display live TV or a computer screen as well as a couple dozen chairs, though the place is often standing-room-only in a real crisis." It would not be slashdotted at the moment.
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Not to go too far OT, there was a great documentary by the same name. If you haven't seen it, rent it. It's a fascinating look at the "behind the scenes".
Yet another "war room". And like the parent, I've never heard it called anything else.
For a moment I thought it was from The Onion ..
Everything Microsoft has done is just funny (Balmer's dances, Zune Squirt, and this)..
Who needs The Onion when we got Microsoft
Basically, they separated the urinals from the stalls.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
I work for an AV integrator, and that room is god awful. The projector mount is garbage. The lighting blows, and that Creston panel is a POS. Its hard to tell from the picture but that looks like a sprinkler head not a mic, which means there is no audio system set up for teleconference (that vtx isn't going to cut it in a room that large), and sure as shit no video conferencing with those lights, don't even get me started on those color combinations. Looks like there are some pop-up boxes and it also looks like there not finish building the room out. Odds are there are 4 more LCD's on the other wall to the back of the photo, but who knows. Looks like there 32's also. You should see some of the conference rooms at Google.
People take the chairs and put them in their office. They always leave one swivel chair so they can say they just took the extras. The offices generally have a swivel chair and a normal one that they replace the stolen swivel chair with. Then you get emails saying where is my swivel chair. I got it really bad once. Both of my swivel chairs were taken and replaced with fixed wooden chairs that were old and had would looked like booger stains on them.
I bet that room is used for playing games instead.
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A room for handling security problems at Microsoft.... they should have turned the second room into a Starbucks, because you know they are using the room 24/7 :)
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>>It's to complex to keep aware of the ins-and-outs of everything
Maybe a general problem with a monolithic platform, used on most computers around the world, maintained by a single company?? Ah... now were seeing the problem...
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They couldn't even have the LCD projector cables neatly routed. Its just like hanging down onto the table like.. OMG.. is that tied into a noose? OMG, is that a body!!!
Pretty please, with sugar on top, fix the fucking security hole.
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Its not what I would expect a MS security room.
I thought it would be full of MS staff making security fixes to their software but who am I kidding?
This is funny :D
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Funny! How about iDumped?
monolitic isn't the problem. Compartmentalized it isn't so bad. My thoughts are (and in fact, I know this to be true, knowing several MS employees), they are quite compartmentalized. The do share some code and some work, but the OS devs don't work on Office, and the office devs don't work on the OS. So, they are handling it appropriately (contrary to what the original poster who I first replied to would suggest was best).
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