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The Reality Distortion Field Is Real

TimeZone writes "Apparently, even subliminal exposure to the Apple logo can make you 'think different.' Researchers at Duke University subjected participants to subliminal images of the iconic Apple and IBM logos (during what subjects thought was a visual acuity test), and those who were shown the Apple logo generated more creative ideas after the test than did those who were shown the IBM logo. In a second test, subjects exposed to the Disney logo acted more honestly than those who saw an E! Channel logo." Here's a preprint of the paper (PDF) due for publication in the Journal of Consumer Research.

270 comments

  1. Yeah, but... by DrunkenTerror · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nobody ever got fired after staring at the IBM logo.

    1. Re:Yeah, but... by Naughty+Bob · · Score: 5, Funny

      The same cannot be said of Ubuntu.

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    2. Re:Yeah, but... by letxa2000 · · Score: 1

      and those who were shown the Apple logo generated more creative ideas after the test than did those who were shown the IBM logo.

      Footnote: The definition of "creative" was defined and judged by "objective" Apple representatives--whatever "objective" means when it comes to judging how "creative" something is.

    3. Re:Yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      safety first.

    4. Re:Yeah, but... by electrictroy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When I stare at an Amiga logo, I cry.

      (so much wasted potential for such an awesome machine)

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    5. Re:Yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Dude. NSFW!

    6. Re:Yeah, but... by thegsusfreek · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Thanks for the warning, DrunkenTerror.

  2. So.. by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 5, Funny

    What does the "Microsoft" logo do to you (down there)?

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    1. Re:So.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      makes you want to screw the other guys in the dorm for picking on you

    2. Re:So.. by CodeBuster · · Score: 5, Funny

      You have a sudden and irresistible urge to pick up the chair that you are sitting in and throw it across the room while repeating the mantra, "developers, developers, developers".

    3. Re:So.. by aynoknman · · Score: 2, Funny

      It makes you want to go today

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    4. Re:So.. by Plutonite · · Score: 1

      It makes you eye your furniture warily, with a discomfort that you can't quite understand.

    5. Re:So.. by Hinhule · · Score: 5, Funny

      Personaly I just stop breathing until I get blue in the face.

    6. Re:So.. by pato101 · · Score: 1

      "Down" is the word, yes.

    7. Re:So.. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      "You have a sudden and irresistible urge to pick up the chair that you are sitting in and throw it across the room while repeating the mantra, "developers, developers, developers"."

      HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!! ! I never thought of that before! CHAIR! HAHAHAHAHAHA~!!~~~~!!!! I haven't laughed that hard since TBS ran a back to back Full House and Saved by the Bell marathon!!!

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    8. Re:So.. by notnAP · · Score: 4, Funny

      Personally I just stop breathing until I get red, blue, green, and yellow in the face. There, fixed.

    9. Re:So.. by Lord+Flipper · · Score: 0, Troll

      What does the "Microsoft" logo do to you (down there)?

      It's interesting that you should ask, because, apparently, the control group that was exposed to the MS logo wasn't affected in 'that way'... however, a smaller group, after repeated exposure to the icon/mascot of the Republican Party, did actually develop an inability to reach erections for approximately 6-8 weeks after, and, in an 'odd' side effect, developed a habit of breaking into discussions of a certain type with fellows in the next urinal in a variety of public places.

    10. Re:So.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In terms of dignity and drawing attention to ones own minora clapping in the wind,... ...is well... just; offensive. I wonder what a gentleman would do? (wrap them around her head or say %@!$ %*)?)

    11. Re:So.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blue scram of death?

    12. Re:So.. by MishgoDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      Personally I just stop breathing until I get red, blue, green, and yellow in the face. There, fixed. Nah, where do you think they got the idea for a blue screen of death from?
    13. Re:So.. by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      Did it ever occur to you that IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S SO OBVIOUS?

      For the same reason, O RLY owl is funny -- everyone, his brother and his dog knows how it looks like, and nevertheless it's still relevant.

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    14. Re:So.. by Miseph · · Score: 1

      Poor example, O RLY was never funny.

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    15. Re:So.. by Murrquan · · Score: 1

      O RLY?

    16. Re:So.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't funny, neither is the owl. Could it be that you're a fucking retard?

    17. Re:So.. by Miseph · · Score: 1

      O RLY? I 'ardly know 'er! XKCD

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    18. Re:So.. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Did it ever occur to you that IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S SO OBVIOUS? Uh, no, that's actually a reason why it's NOT FUNNY. But I'd like to thank you, though. I had been wondering why SNL's still on the air.
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    19. Re:So.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what you get from Microsoft whereas with Apple ...

  3. Logos by doctortommy · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and the Microsoft logo caused test subjects to experience extreme confusion and frustration.

    1. Re:Logos by OverlordQ · · Score: 0, Redundant

      ...followed by the test subject trying to throw their chair.

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    2. Re:Logos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      The Microsoft logo cause some people to unexpectedly turn blue and die. Fortunately, a new device that induced a specially provided electric shock (ALTernate ConTroLed DELivery) would be immediately required to revive them.

    3. Re:Logos by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "...and the Microsoft logo caused test subjects to experience extreme confusion and frustration." ... and the Apple logo caused people, men mostly, to lose weight in the wallet side of their rears.
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    4. Re:Logos by cp.tar · · Score: 2, Funny

      See? It even makes your butt look smaller!

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    5. Re:Logos by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      The Microsoft logo cause some people to unexpectedly turn blue and die. Fortunately, a new device that induced a specially provided electric shock (ALTernate ConTroLed DELivery) would be immediately required to revive them. Oh, come on - for some versions now they just turn into new-borns automatically by default.
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  4. Other logos by slashdotlurker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft - made you more likely to be cruel to little animals
    Tux - made you grown a long beard and lose all your friends
    Novell - made you betray your friends
    Democrat donkey - made you find new ways to destroy yourself
    Republican elephant - made you question the value of an education

    What is next ?

    "Judge, I crashed my car because I stared at a Ferrari logo for too long." ?

    1. Re:Other logos by webmaster404 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Tux - made you grown a long beard and lose all your friends

      I'm assuming your talking about Stallman in which case it would be the GNU not Tux. Rule Number 1 of geek humor: Be accurate.
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    2. Re:Other logos by Draconix · · Score: 5, Funny

      Slashdot logo - made you move back into your mother's basement.

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    3. Re:Other logos by Mox-Dragon · · Score: 5, Funny

      QED.

    4. Re:Other logos by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sounds like some has been staring at the BSD logo again...

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    5. Re:Other logos by Trespass · · Score: 5, Funny

      Adobe- Makes you try and think of new ways to make the internet slower

    6. Re:Other logos by tehBoris · · Score: 3

      I think he is talking about the fabled unix beard that many gurus sport and which is said to convey great powers to he (or she!) who grows it.

    7. Re:Other logos by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 3, Informative

      Rule Number 1 of geek humor: Be accurate.

      Rule Number 0 of geek humor. Be funny!
      Rule Number 0.1 of geek humor. Be ironic!
      Rule Number 0.2 of geek humor. Be dry! ... ..
      Rule Number 0.9999999... of geek humor. Be real!

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    8. Re:Other logos by Traa · · Score: 1, Funny

      Slashdot logo - made you move back into your mother's basement.

      Slashdot logo - made you want to stay in your mother's basement

      fixed (we _are_ on slashdot...duh)

    9. Re:Other logos by cicatrix1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your comment made me chuckle and then immediately feel sad for myself.

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    10. Re:Other logos by xbytor · · Score: 3, Funny

      4chan logo - makes you end up with a file at the FBI

    11. Re:Other logos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You appear to have two rule number 1s there.

    12. Re:Other logos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah... pink diapers are the killers (if you don't believe me, try wearing one).

      Chemically playing with serotonin in children as young as 3 (or guilt and shame at 45). Damage seems to be a permanent with just a few uses.

      It is that fucked up. I wonder if there'll ever be cheap hand-held spectroscopes en mass. If you ever could give it to 5 year olds, the education value alone is priceless.

    13. Re:Other logos by LunarCrisis · · Score: 1

      What does Domo-kun make you do?

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    14. Re:Other logos by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Hah, that may be the best humor-to-character post in recent history.

    15. Re:Other logos by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 1

      Gah! Why can't I ever have mod points when I need them! Mod parent up :P.

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    16. Re:Other logos by phreakincool · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      "Informative" - WTF?

    17. Re:Other logos by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And even if you move out, you'll move back to the basement again in two weeks for the same reason as the first time without remembering it.

    18. Re:Other logos by rubah · · Score: 1

      nah, rule number 1 is be funny, *then* you can be accurate :D Accuracy is only #1 if you're trying to prove your geek cred.

    19. Re:Other logos by ChiRaven · · Score: 3, Funny

      Slashdot logo - made you move back into your mother's basement.
      Funny, shortly after I discovered Slashdot (and got promoted to Technical Systems Architect, purely coincidental synchronicity I assume) my mother moved into my basement.
    20. Re:Other logos by Lane.exe · · Score: 1

      If you're looking at the Slashdot logo, you've never left your mother's basement.

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    21. Re:Other logos by DKlineburg · · Score: 1

      if 1/3 = .333...
      if 2/3 = .666...
      that rule number 0.9999999...
      is really rule number 3/3?

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    22. Re:Other logos by spintriae · · Score: 2, Funny

      Rule Number 0.9999999... of geek humor. Be real!
      Rule Number 1 of geek humor. Same as Rule Number 0.9999999...
      Rule Number [root -1] of geek humor. Be imaginative.
      Rule Number 1/0. OH SHI--
    23. Re:Other logos by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Apple already answered the 1/0 question. The answer is zero (try it on an iphone).

    24. Re:Other logos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> Tux - made you grown a long beard and lose all your friends

      > I'm assuming your talking about Stallman in which case it would be the GNU not Tux. Rule Number 1 of geek humor: Be accurate.

      It's called branding.

    25. Re:Other logos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rule Number Pi-2 of geek humor. Be irrational!

    26. Re:Other logos by hey! · · Score: 1

      Well, that's OK because the rules describe precisely the same set.

      Let L and R be two sets of rational numbers, such that for every number a in L, a < 1 and for every number c in R, c >= 1, and every rational number is either in L or R. Let b be a real number such that for any a in L and c in R, a < b < c.

      Let G be the set of geek humor, and let f(x) mapping from any member x of G to R be the funniness of x, and g(x) mapping from any member x of G be the cleverness of x.

      Postulate (b): for any x in G, g(x) > f(x).

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    27. Re:Other logos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only on a Pentium 60

    28. Re:Other logos by dragonbutt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are You from Soviet Union?

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    29. Re:Other logos by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      Which is strange: trying it on an old-fashioned Mac calculator DA used to yield "infinity". The Spotlight calculator just whines, "divByZero".

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    30. Re:Other logos by punissuer · · Score: 1

      You appear to have two rule number 1s there. Numerically yes, lexicographically no.
    31. Re:Other logos by ChiRaven · · Score: 1

      NO, the good old USA. Mom lost her pension when her ex-company went bankrupt and she had to rely on Socialist Security. I tried to avoid that fate by taking my pension as a lump sum distribution, but it got hammered in the dot-com bust and is just now recovering. The good news is I had a bundle of it in gold in the past couple of months. Now that everybody else is buying gold, I'll be selling.

      Not sure whose logo I should be staring at for that one. Sure not Bear Stearns.

    32. Re:Other logos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      me laugh

      me no programmer, truly; just dabble in AppleScript and PHP

      me still laugh, tho

      funny

      thankx

    33. Re:Other logos by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

      I always thought the geek humor was supposed to be

      i) complex; it has to be somewhat sophisticated and intricate; highly technical in-jokes are preferred
      ii) negative; someone's folly or misfortune is always fun to mock.
      0.70710678118654...) rational; it's good to be ha-ha only serious and make you think in the same go as it makes you laugh.
      0.0078749969978123844...) computable; there has to be some algorithm which produces jokes. Here on slashdot, you use a bayesian filter to figure out if the post or story you want to respond to is best served by Soviet Russia, Car Analogy, I for one, ???-profit, but-does-it-run-linux or Imagine-a-Beowulf-cluster-of-those?

    34. Re:Other logos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm assuming your talking about Stallman in which case it would be the GNU not Tux. Rule Number 1 of geek humor: Be accurate.

      GNU/Tux. If you want to be that accurate.

    35. Re:Other logos by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Yes. 0.999... is equal to 3/3 which is equal to 1.

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  5. Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by mikeabbott420 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or maybe this study is a steaming pile of platypus dung. See that there? Platypus Dung? that's creativity baby!

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    1. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by GoodbyeBlueSky1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Indeed. This is not a scientific study, it's a bunch of marketers trying to "prove" that what they do matters. Journal of Consumer Research? Surely no conflict of interest there. In other news, a study backed by McDonald's proves that their food is actually good for you! Film at 11.

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    2. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by mikeabbott420 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My rule of thumb is, unless the details of the methodology used are available and convincing, study means lie.

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    3. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Informative

      Indeed. This is not a scientific study, it's a bunch of marketers trying to "prove" that what they do matters. Journal of Consumer Research? Surely no conflict of interest there. In other news, a study backed by McDonald's proves that their food is actually good for you! Film at 11. The Journal of Consumer Research is a peer-reviewed academic journal put out by the University of Chicago Press. Some people can claim that it isn't "real science" or whatever, but the researchers certainly follow the scientific method and this study, like others published in the journal, has survived a peer review process overseen by its credentialed editorial staff.
    4. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by porcupine8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Well then, exactly what in the methodology of this study did you take issue with?

      Seeing as how it's all laid out in the preprint linked to in the summary.

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    5. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by porcupine8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Because obviously if you didn't know about any ways of measuring creativity, it means that there can't possibly be an entire field devoted to creativity research that's spent decades operationalizing aspects of it and developing valid and reliable tests for it?

      Which isn't to say we can measure it with 100% accuracy or that there's no debate still about what it is, what should be included, etc etc. But it's so nice of you to completely dismiss out of hand the very idea of measuring it in any way.

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    6. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by GoodbyeBlueSky1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Thanks for the clarification. However, who are the peers? The journals 3 authors are: 1) Canada Research Chair in Social Cognition at University of Waterloo, 2) Professor of Marketing and Psychology at Duke University, 3) Professor of Marketing and Psychology at Duke University.

      I only skimmed the paper, and while I don't see signs of cheating, I still find the results suspect (the old "correlation is not causation" may apply here). Perhaps a statistician can chime in: how significant are these "statistically significant" numbers, as that term is used often in studies, and can be an effective smokescreen. Lies, damn lies, statistics, etc.

      Then again, I could be wrong. I guess a study showing how some Americans are sheep isn't that hard to believe...

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    7. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by peragrin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If markters trying to prove what they do matters then they picked the wrong logo. try MSFT or intel logos. Apple is hip it makes people think that things don't have to be a cube farm, that cool toys can be had by anyone.

      MSFT needs help with that image. As most people think MSFT and get frustrated. When was the last time you enjoyed using windows? When was the last time you enjoyed using KDE/Gnome/Linux? Now when was the last time you enjoyed using your mac/ipod/iphone?

      for me about 5 minutes ago as i was working a personal web site project and had 5 safari, two firefox, 3 finder, 5 text editor, 2 ftp app, and a terminal windows opened across two computers. expose, and a little extra app called clipboard sharing so i could copy/paste between the two. I was working and having fun. The process was painless. now to buy my first ipod/iphone as soon as they allow me to install apps that i want. Sure you can do all that in every OS,(with X windows you can even make them the same screen, tis a feature I miss in OS X) but how often do you enjoy it?

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    8. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by TapeCutter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It is said that the Apple logo is a tribute to Alan Turing, if more people knew this would the apple logo inspire people to eat poison apples?

      "Perhaps a statistician can chime in"

      Wether you personally accept the paper's conclusion or not is irrelevant. It does however conform to the scientific method and a Marketing Proffessor's 'peer' is likely to know a lot more about statistcs that you do ( judging from the questions in your post and the fact that my partner is a marketing prof.).

      On the subject of measuring creativity they use the same sort of tests that are used to study chimpanze creativity...

      From TFS: "Participants were subliminally exposed to images of either Apple or IBM brand logos and then completed a standard creativity measure, the "unusual uses test" (Guilford, Merrifield, and Wilson 1958). The unusual uses task allows for two tests of behavioral priming effects: First, the total number of uses generated serves as a measure of participants' motivation to be creative: If a goal to be creative is active, participants should generate a higher number of total uses. Importantly, these uses need not all be creative - just the sheer act of attempting to generate as many uses as possible is often used as a metric of creativity on this test (Eisenberger, Armeli, and Pretz 1998; Glover and Gary 1976) and is an excellent measure of the motivation to be creative. Second, the rated creativity of each use serves as an additional measure of creativity.

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    9. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by enoz · · Score: 1

      Actually I had the same thought as the GP, how *do* you measure creativity? The answer seems to be "not very well". Unlike testing for knowledge or intelligence, creativity is a very subjective trait that depends as much upon the tester as it does upon the testee.

      Visual Arts is a great example of this: show a selection of modern art (such as Mondrian, Christo, Pollock, etc) to a number of people and you will without a doubt find people that would not even consider them to be art, let alone consider them creative.

    10. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by billcopc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What ? You think peer-reviewed journals are immune to bias ? By their very nature they are biased, because you have a group of like-minded individuals reviewing each other's work. If they weren't like-minded, they wouldn't be collaborating on the project in the first place.

      It's quite possible that the test itself was slanted in favor of the desired outcome, if that's the general sentiment within the group. Nothing in this world is purely objective, nothing but math!

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    11. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by Wise+Dr+Funk · · Score: 1

      This isn't at all a scientific study. As an admitted Mac fanboy it bothers me because it makes us look more and more like scientologists. As a market researcher, this makes me even more disappointed then Ford's "'Market Research.'" What's sad is that market research has a great deal to teach us whether we want to admit it or not. Like all sciences we can use it for good or for ill, but this is not a scientific use. This is trying to show a very stretched relation between brand and behavior. What upsets me so much is the jump from the idea that subliminal messaging (which has some research to back it) and some ephemeral quality the mac brand must have (does have). Too big of a jump for any conservative researcher. /still an Apple fanboy

    12. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well then, exactly what in the methodology of this study did you take issue with?


      The part of the methodology he takes issue with is that he doesn't agree with the results.
    13. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      It is said that the Apple logo is a tribute to Alan Turing, if more people knew this would the apple logo inspire people to eat poison apples? But it sure does seem to inspire people to bat for the correct team :)
    14. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by DKlineburg · · Score: 1

      In other news, people who look at statistics feel annoyed and cause them to not believe in things.

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    15. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Ha! Brilliant demo of what I was saying about conclusions. :)

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    16. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by fractoid · · Score: 1

      Hell, there's no concrete, uncontested objective definition of intelligence, let alone something more abstract like creativity.

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    17. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you dont get it. if a study funded by mcdonalds concludes mcdonalds food is actually healthy IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE METHODOLOGY IS.

      to me, that study doesnt even exist.

    18. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by Mikkeles · · Score: 1
      'My rule of thumb is, unless the details of the methodology used are available and convincing, study means lie.'

      I would also include that all the raw data be available.

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    19. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's Not April Fools... so why are you all being made fools of?

      Everyone knows the University of Chicago isn't real - it's imaginary - it's where Indiana Jones did his PhD in Hardcore Anthropology!

    20. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by IchNiSan · · Score: 1

      Of course it is creative, you probably didn't notice the apple logo near the top of this article, but your brain noticed.

    21. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      Agreed - it also strikes me as terribly 80s to be (presumably) trying to represent the PC with an IBM logo. Yeah, I know the history, but how many people have a PC from IBM? I can't remember the last time I even saw one - PCs have changed enough that the association is no longer there (just as Macs have changed enough that they now use the same hardware technology anyway).

      How about other companies' logos such as Intel, Nvidia, Microsoft, and so on?

    22. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      When was the last time you enjoyed using windows? When was the last time you enjoyed using KDE/Gnome/Linux? Now when was the last time you enjoyed using your mac/ipod/iphone?

      for me about 5 minutes ago as i was working a personal web site project and had 5 safari, two firefox, 3 finder, 5 text editor, 2 ftp app


      And I can format 4 floppy disks at once!

      As you note anyone can do the things you list. But you assert we don't enjoy it. Wrong. We do - we just don't go one about it as if we're the only ones who can do it. I don't need an Apple user to tell me whether I enjoy it or not.

      I enjoy using my Windows machines often, such as when I'm doing 3D programming, or watching a video on my laptop in bed when the video in question is stored on my desktop.

      I enjoy using my non-iphone lots, such as when I play music on it, or browse the web effortlessly on it - things which Iphone users now go on about, but I was doing it years earlier on a much cheaper phone. I didn't post about it on Slashdot because I assumed it was old news even then, but evidently I was wrong.

      This is a geek site. I suspect you'll find that most people here enjoy using computers.

    23. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by porcupine8 · · Score: 1
      Why, was the study funded by Apple and IBM? Because all I can find on the funding is this:

      This research was supported in part by grants from the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada (SSHRC) and Canadian Foundation for Innovation (CFI) to Grainne M. Fitzsimons, and from Grant R03MH65250 from the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) to Tanya L. Chartrand.

      Or are you saying that it's biased because it was done by professors who study marketing? Pray tell, who should be doing the research about marketing? By that metric, anyone who tries to do it will automatically be disqualified because they are marketing researchers.

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    24. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by porcupine8 · · Score: 1
      From your own link:

      The Creativity Achievement Questionnaire, a self-report test that measures creative achievement across 10 domains, was described in 2005 and shown to be reliable and valid when compared to other measures of creativity and to independent evaluation of creative output.

      Not saying that this particular test is the gold standard or what was used in this study, but obviously people have come up with ways to measure at least some parts of creativity somewhat well. Most definitions of creativity for research purposes use Torrance's definition and breakdown or something very similar.

      Also, remember that colloquial definitions of a construct don't always line up completely with operationalized definitons used by researchers. But that's to be expected - colloquial use of terms is always going to be fluid, changing, and hard to pin down. Whereas to study something empirically, you have to specify exactly what it is you're studying and stick to that definition.

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    25. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by anthonys_junk · · Score: 1

      Agree, a great example of this is Slashdot. A recognised leader in peer-reviewed (and moderated) commentary. Scary, huh?

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    26. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by mikeabbott420 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, Missed that or I would have been slightly less dismissive.

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    27. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      I never said the journal was "immune from bias." I don't even know that I would value that. All I said was that it was peer reviewed by credentialed experts who respect and follow the scientific method. Do you dispute that?

    28. Re:Yaa! CreativIty can be measured now! by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure you'll find that creativity can indeed be measured to some degree. The value of what they create, on the other hand, is much more subjective. And it makes sense from a cognitive psychological point of view: Apple is associated with creativity more than IBM, so seeing it is more likely to increase one's creative mood, even if it is only slight. They've done scientific tests where people reacted with increased dopamine levels simply after seeing a Coke commercial. How is this any different?

  6. Need more logos! by Av8rjoker · · Score: 1

    I need to use this new research with the Nike logo so I can run faster! And then the Chiquita bananas logo so I don't ever have to eat! Then the Boeing logo so I can fly! I'm going to be awesome! Thank you subliminal research.

    Ok now I need to look at the Miller Lite logo.

  7. Apple vs. IBM by martinQblank · · Score: 1

    When viewing the Apple logo I am immersed in a pure white light...providing me with a mental blank canvas ripe for unbridled creativity whereas with the IBM logo all I get is blue...blue...blu...hey, is that pinstripe?

  8. I knew it! by vodevil · · Score: 5, Funny

    I see my apple logo on my laptop all the time. People always tell me I'm full of shit, but I always explain that I'm full of great ideas. Now I have proof that I'm the one that's right, and they're full of shit.

    1. Re:I knew it! by pandrijeczko · · Score: 0, Troll
      Good stuff. Now that you're happy will you kindly bugger off to your dark corner of Starbucks so the rest of us shit eaters can get on with what we were doing before you interrupted us.

      Oh, and here's £2.50 - go buy yourself a coffee with a chocolate flake in it while you're waiting.

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    2. Re:I knew it! by vodevil · · Score: 5, Funny

      That wasn't very creative. You must have just viewed the IBM logo.

    3. Re:I knew it! by VisceralLogic · · Score: 5, Funny

      I see my apple logo on my laptop all the time. People always tell me I'm full of shit, but I always explain that I'm full of great ideas. Now I have proof that I'm the one that's right, and they're full of shit.

      Maybe because if you're seeing the Apple logo, you're looking at the wrong side of the screen...

      I keed, I keed... typing this from my MacBook.

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    4. Re:I knew it! by imaginaryelf · · Score: 1

      You're full of shit.

    5. Re:I knew it! by MrNaz · · Score: 1

      How aggressive. Now we know what the logos for defence contractors do to you.

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    6. Re:I knew it! by SEWilco · · Score: 5, Funny

      I see my apple logo on my laptop all the time.
      Open your laptop more often.
    7. Re:I knew it! by SEWilco · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, no! Don't send him to Starbucks when he's already in a reality distortion field! Someone might make him a cup of really hot tea!

    8. Re:I knew it! by serialdogma · · Score: 1

      You make that sound like a bad thing.

    9. Re:I knew it! by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually it was insulting and condenceding .. He was viewing the Windows logo all day.

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    10. Re:I knew it! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I was going to say the same thing. If this 'research' is accurate then I need to encourage my friends to buy Macs - it seems unfair that they would get the creativity boost from the big glowing Apple logo on my screen while I suffer whatever the effects of staring at a Dell logo are.

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    11. Re:I knew it! by Jonner · · Score: 1

      As long it's not Advanced Tea Substitute.

    12. Re:I knew it! by Your.Master · · Score: 1

      Looks like somebody saw the slashdot logo recently.

    13. Re:I knew it! by Ozlanthos · · Score: 1

      Maybe it is simply a side-effect of the Apple logo? Maybe what is actually happening is that Steve Jobs found a way to subliminally-install a virus via casual viewing of the logo??? A unique virus, in that it imbues it's host with an over-confidence in their perceived creative superiority? While diminishing it's host's sense of "objectivity", it manifests as outward bursts of rage at the slightest criticism issued by any collegue and/or underlings (ie makes you think you are Jobs). -Oz

    14. Re:I knew it! by kocsonya · · Score: 3, Funny

      That reminded me that some 15+ years ago I seem to remember seeing an Amiga and a Mac ad, side by side:

      Amiga: the computer for the creative mind!

      Macintosh: the computer for the rest of us! :-)

    15. Re:I knew it! by bursch-X · · Score: 1

      Look at the top left of your screen. Subliminal, I know that's why it works even with the screen open.

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    16. Re:I knew it! by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

      You don't need to *open* the laptop to let the creativity of Apple shine forth. After all, you bought the logo, the computer is there for the ride.

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    17. Re:I knew it! by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      It's actually a side effect of wearing slashdot t-shirts during the last 2 weeks. I have been trying to get first post about natalie portman wearing hot grits in her pants for the past two days.

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    18. Re:I knew it! by spitzak · · Score: 1

      And you need to turn the logo upside down to open the laptop, thus losing the creativity...

    19. Re:I knew it! by msheekhah · · Score: 1

      and since I switched to PC... I've felt more like jumping out of windows...

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  9. RDF, not in the logos! by countSudoku() · · Score: 5, Funny

    The RDF emanates from The Steve, not the Apple logo. Unless, of course, The Steve laid hands upon the device bearing the logo. It's all right in here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_distortion_field

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  10. Ain't That True by pandrijeczko · · Score: 4, Funny
    Apparently, even subliminal exposure to the Apple logo can make you 'think different.'

    Hence the reason all the new Mac users immediately go out and buy extra big designer tables for their lounges and a few African tribal relics to display in their hallways.

    It also makes them caffeine-addicted hermits since I usually see solitary Mac users sat in the darkest corners of Starbucks with a large chocca-flocca-socca-moccachino in front of them. And I know they're Mac users because no matter where I sit, they always make sure I can see the little logo.

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    1. Re:Ain't That True by QuantumG · · Score: 1, Redundant

      No man, they need all that white plastic covered processing power to use a full screen text editor.

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    2. Re:Ain't That True by Digi-John · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Hey, keep it down, I'm working on my novel. The Mac *just works* and I can do complicated things like check email, read news, and write stuff without having to learn 7 zillion commands! It's so easy!
      If you'll excuse me, I have to run to the coffeeshop and kick Mac-using hipsters until they run away in that funny stride that comes when men wear women's jeans.

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    3. Re:Ain't That True by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1

      Finally! A Mac User with a sense of humour! In the words of Basil Fawlty "We should have him stuffed!"

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    4. Re:Ain't That True by Mox-Dragon · · Score: 1

      And I know they're Mac users because no matter where I sit, they always make sure I can see the little logo.

      Well, the logo is on the back of the screen. And assuming that most computer users tend to look at the screen when they use it, the logo is (by default) facing the rest of the world.
    5. Re:Ain't That True by Digi-John · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'm not a Mac user, more of a bitter Plan 9 hacker :) Given a choice, I'd probably use Mac over Windows, but I do my real work on Plan 9 and Linux.

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    6. Re:Ain't That True by webmaster404 · · Score: 2

      a few African tribal relics to display in their hallways.

      I thought we were talking about Mac here, not Ubuntu!
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    7. Re:Ain't That True by Locklin · · Score: 1
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    8. Re:Ain't That True by jumpinp · · Score: 1

      So its a public service to inspire creativity.

    9. Re:Ain't That True by kaens · · Score: 1

      So, off-topic but:

      Is there anything great about using Plan 9 on a single machine? I'm fascinated by it, but it always seemed like something that would be best run on a network of machines (and I don't exactly have more than one comp at my disposal).

    10. Re:Ain't That True by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      I'm obviously channelling all the opposite effects. If I'm ever working in a coffee shop it's usually Nero or Costa, near the window in the sunlight, with a full-fat latte (Can't be bothered with mocha-frappe-flake-slim-peppermint nonsense), and with a screen full of code. Can't help about the logo though, although I've tried to find ways to turn off the little light without voiding my warranty (Ideas anyone?). On the plus side, by facing the window and having my glowing logo, I'm increasing the creativity of anybody walking past in the street.

      Hey... maybe Steve only gets the ideas because he's exposed to a hall full of glowing laptop logos at every press event...

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    11. Re:Ain't That True by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      And I know they're Mac users because no matter where I sit, they always make sure I can see the little logo.

      Well, the logo is on the back of the screen. And assuming that most computer users tend to look at the screen when they use it, the logo is (by default) facing the rest of the world. Uhh, you Mac people, stop confusing me with your creative "logic".
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    12. Re:Ain't That True by e4g4 · · Score: 1

      Umm - there's also a little thing called the "Apple Menu" demarcated by - you guessed it - an Apple logo.

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    13. Re:Ain't That True by Lobster+Quadrille · · Score: 1

      Try turning off your lappy's monitor, and holding it up to the light. The apple logo clearly shines through and illuminates the darkened monitor.

      It's not inconceivable that even with the light on, there's enough of a 'watermark' to subtly influence your creativity.

      Also there's the little apple at the top left corner of the screen.

      And 2 on the keyboard (with lights behind them as well), IIRC.

      That said, I think it's all bullshit.

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    14. Re:Ain't That True by Digi-John · · Score: 1

      In my opinion, the absolute minimum you should use is one dedicated machine as a CPU/auth/file server and one "terminal", which can either run Plan 9 and pull the root filesystem from your server or can run Windows/Linux/OS X and access Plan 9 through "drawterm" (it's like remote desktop/vnc, but better).
      Running what we call a standalone terminal without an auth or file server, which is what you get when you do a straight install from CD, can still be useful *if* you have an account on one of the Plan 9 public access systems (in New York (currently down), Spain, or Japan), but your file access will be quite slow.

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  11. Re:MORE LIKE GAY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly. "Touchy Feely" != "More Creative".

  12. and the playboy bunny logo... by bagboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    has what reaction?

    1. Re:and the playboy bunny logo... by The+Ancients · · Score: 1

      Someone quick - mod parent 'funny'!

      Otherwise: dude, if you really have to ask...

    2. Re:and the playboy bunny logo... by hachete · · Score: 2, Funny

      turns you furry?

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    3. Re:and the playboy bunny logo... by Jimmy+King · · Score: 5, Funny

      turns you furry?
      On your palms, anyway.
    4. Re:and the playboy bunny logo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe just your palms

    5. Re:and the playboy bunny logo... by pato101 · · Score: 1

      typically, erection. YMMV.

    6. Re:and the playboy bunny logo... by porcupine8 · · Score: 1
      I have to wonder if it's me, or the people who posted the "on the palms" jokes, that have misinterpreted your meaning of "furry."

      I'm hoping it's me.

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    7. Re:and the playboy bunny logo... by inasity_rules · · Score: 1

      I dunno, but be vewy vewy quite. I'm hunting wabbits...

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    8. Re:and the playboy bunny logo... by DKlineburg · · Score: 1

      I thought that made you blind. . . Hum, that church school upbringing getting in the way again.

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    9. Re:and the playboy bunny logo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    10. Re:and the playboy bunny logo... by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      For geeks, wistfulness and a bit of uncertainty?

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  13. I can't believe this article is real by rainer_d · · Score: 1

    Well, until Steve Jobs says so. ;-)

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  14. What they forgot to mention.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those who saw the Intel logo developed a rash.
    Those who saw the Coca Cola logo were prone to use AmEx.
    Those who saw the Pepsi logo afterwards liked beef better than those who ate Aspirin during the tests.
    And not least.. those who saw the Bear Sterns logo broke down in tears.

    The significance of this is invaluable. It is also mostly incomprehensible.

    1. Re:What they forgot to mention.. by MrNaz · · Score: 1

      Come on. What self-respecting non-moron actually takes this story seriously? When "tests" come up with results as ridiculous as this I want not just the results published, but the method and assumptions of the experiment, and most importantly, who funded the experiment.

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    2. Re:What they forgot to mention.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pseudoscientific trash.

  15. Oblig. Penny Arcade: by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 0
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    1. Re:Oblig. Penny Arcade: by DKlineburg · · Score: 1

      So are you an elitist because you bought a mac? Or does buying a mac make you an elitist. If buying a mac makes you an elitist, and you but one if you all ready are an elitist? At that point, is that two negatives makeing a posative? So you are an elitist, you buy a make, become a non elitist, and sell the mac? Ah, screw it, go download linux.

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    2. Re:Oblig. Penny Arcade: by Von+Helmet · · Score: 1

      While we're on Switch jokes, here's an old video from Kristopher Straub of Checkerboard Nightmare fame.

  16. Genetic effects by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    We've established that the reality distortion field is in fact correct (TFA), and that it self-evidently (look at Apple's recent sales) is transmitted as a meme throughout technological society. We know that the human condition is regulated by culture - that the human brain is evolving to cope with the phenomenal rate-of-change-of-culture it is being exposed to. In doing so, it must also cope with (adapt to) this reality distortion field created by Apple.

    Steve Jobs is screwing with your mind, people. And your children's nascent minds too. Be afraid (of non-shiny things). Be very afraid (of anything not cool).

    Simon.

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  17. Just what slashdot needed. by timmarhy · · Score: 1, Insightful

    More apple wankery.

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  18. Oh Billlll oh Steve,,,,,,...Oh Malinda...oh...ahhh by iknownuttin · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    What does the "Microsoft" logo do to you (down there)?

    Apple...Microsoft ...Oh baby!

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  19. Windows logo? by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 5, Funny

    By extrapolating these results, I assume that those shown a Windows logo got into their car, drove extremely slowly while telling those behind them to "please wait," and then crashed into a telephone pole due to a driver problem.

    1. Re:Windows logo? by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Most vehicle accidents are caused by driver problems, so... Wait. Does that mean that a car analogy here might actually work?

      NO CARRIER

  20. Blue tree on yellow background. by Lewrker · · Score: 2, Funny

    That certain logo made you want to claim other people's stuff as yours, but refuse to show the receipt because it's so damn obvious. And then file for bankrupcy.

  21. hmmm. by apodyopsis · · Score: 1

    of course the study was finished when one of the researchers "accidently" slipped the viagra logo into the projector. the rest, as they say, is history and nobody ever mentioned that study or the brick ever again.

    1. Re:hmmm. by megaditto · · Score: 1

      Well, I read somewhere (some dead-tree source, SciAm?) that they did research the effects of displaying nude female art in a workplace.

      Apparently it resulted in mildly increased productivity... Interestingly, this also motivated women for some reason.

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    2. Re:hmmm. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      If you want to sell a magazine to a man, what do you do? Put a woman on the cover, of course.

      If you want to sell a magazine to a woman, what do you do? Put a woman on the cover, of course.

      It works for motivation too. Men want to show off. Women want to show up. You don't think they dress up when they go out for US, do you?

  22. Microsoft by Kyokushi · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Staring at Microsoft logo will create an irresistible urge to throw a chair at it.
    Screaming "DEVELOPERS!" is known to occasionally happen too!

  23. Apple is just the new Microsoft by Heembo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple is the new Microsoft, Microsoft is the new IBM.

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    1. Re:Apple is just the new Microsoft by Basilius · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And Google is the new Apple.

    2. Re:Apple is just the new Microsoft by Heembo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Facebook is the new Google.

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    3. Re:Apple is just the new Microsoft by KillerBob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sadly, that doesn't make Microsoft the new Dodo.

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    4. Re:Apple is just the new Microsoft by Heembo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Twitter is the new Facebook. Pownce is the new Twitter.

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    5. Re:Apple is just the new Microsoft by Heembo · · Score: 1
      Your search - "is the new Pownce" - did not match any documents.
      Suggestions:
      • Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
      • Try different keywords.
      • Try more general keywords.
      Damn you Google; I mean, Damn you Facebook!
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    6. Re:Apple is just the new Microsoft by amuzulo · · Score: 1

      And Facebook is the new Google.

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    7. Re:Apple is just the new Microsoft by StreetStealth · · Score: 1

      And "..is the new" is the new /. meme.

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    8. Re:Apple is just the new Microsoft by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      So who is the new google?

    9. Re:Apple is just the new Microsoft by Basilius · · Score: 1

      Two out of two self-appointed experts in the thread right above you seem to think Facebook is.

  24. Um, guys... by Space+cowboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Say WHAT ?

    This is humour - lay off the "insightful" mods, will you please ? It's starting to erode my confidence in my fellow man...

    Simon

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    1. Re:Um, guys... by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      The fact that it's being modded insightful is proof that what he said is true. A huge percentage of Slashdotters will usually think similarly just like a lot of Mac users think the same way.

      Although... after using a Mac for about 3 years (started on CoCo2, through MS-DOS up to Windows XP before that), I've realized that I developed an intolerance for badly written software (doesn't matter if it's a bad GUI or non-intuitive steps or something else).

      If you're used to driving in a crap car, you don't really understand why some people pay for a BMW. But try driving around for 3 years in one, and you won't want to go back to your old crappy car.

    2. Re:Um, guys... by ardle · · Score: 1

      It was meant to be a joke but it reflects an interesting possibility: rather than being inspired by the coolness of the brands, people were as inspired as they thought they should be by the brands :-)
      In this era of "rate-of-change-of-culture", people have learnt to take cues from a lot of things. It's not always conscious: a lot of social stuff is delegated to the subconscious.

    3. Re:Um, guys... by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      The "insightful" mods might be an attempt to game the system. You don't get positive karma for "funny" upmods, but if you're downmodded as "overrated" you still lose karma. Modding you up "insightful" is a means to rectify that.

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  25. I propose... by resignator · · Score: 1

    certain words can also make you "think differently". It seems obvious to me the word "slashdot" fosters in test subjects a need to spout the lamest jokes humanly possible. Q. How many MS logo "jokes" did we need in response to this article? A. I like turtles Retards...

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  26. This is a test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does staring at this comment predispose /. readers to rate it up?

  27. It's a refleciton of pre-test scores by Ieshan · · Score: 5, Informative

    The research is neat, but essentially what they're showing is that they can validate pre-test measures of "creativity" and "honesty" using a priming technique.

    They chose the brands that they chose because Apple was rated as more creative a brand than IBM in pre-test:

    "As predicted, there was a significant difference in the extent to
    which Apple and IBM were perceived to be creative, t(23) = -4.91, p .001, with Apple receiving
    higher ratings (M = 7.62, SD = 1.23) than IBM (M = 4.17, SD = 2.12). Thus, pilot tests confirmed that in
    our college sample, Apple is believed to be more creative than is IBM. IBM, it is important to note, is
    not seen as particularly creative or uncreative; it is rated at approximately the mid-point of the scale."

    And because Disney is rated as being more "honest" than E!:
    "As predicted, there was a significant difference in the extent to
    which Apple and IBM were perceived to be creative, t(23) = -4.91, p .001, with Apple receiving
    higher ratings (M = 7.62, SD = 1.23) than IBM (M = 4.17, SD = 2.12). Thus, pilot tests confirmed that in
    our college sample, Apple is believed to be more creative than is IBM. IBM, it is important to note, is
    not seen as particularly creative or uncreative; it is rated at approximately the mid-point of the scale."

    It's not showing that people subliminally exposed to the Apple logo - regardless of prior beliefs - will be spontaneously more creative. It's showing that people spontaneously exposed to things that they (at least, a similar sample) feel reflect creativity will prime, behaviorally, creativity.

    It doesn't mean that people who work with Apple are more productive, or that people need to buy Apple to be creative. It's a neat implementation of priming on future behavior, but it's really showing that specific brands are associated with specific traits (and that those specific traits prime actions).

    1. Re:It's a refleciton of pre-test scores by Selanit · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've RTF preprint too, and I'm not sure this is a fair criticism. You've misunderstood something - specifically, you write:

      They chose the brands that they chose because Apple was rated as more creative a brand than IBM in pre-test

      Which is incorrect. The researchers chose the brand before the pre-test because they themselves believed it to be associated with creativity. The purpose of the pre-test was to verify that the researchers were correct in believing that the test participants perceive the Apple brand as associated with creativity. They also tested the participants' associations of the IBM logo (which was the other logo they showed) to see whether it too was associated with creativity, and found that it was not.

      The end goal of the study was to measure whether or not exposure to a familiar brand would cause people to exhibit characteristics associated with that brand. Having verified that the Apple brand was associated with creativity in the population they were studying, and that the IBM logo was not, they primed their participants by flashing a logo at them for 80 milliseconds as part of a video, then administered a standard psych test measuring creativity (the Unusual Uses test - it was first put together in 1958 and has been thoroughly validated since then). There were 341 participants (190 male, 151 female). Out of those:

      • Half got the IBM logo, half got Apple.
      • All participants were asked to complete a meaningless task (crossing out E's in a text); half of the participants were asked to do so before the Unusual Uses test, half after. That part was to measure whether the effect of the logo, if any, dissipated rapidly.

      They also asked participants after they had completed the test whether they had noticed any images in the video shown beforehand; except for the 80 millisecond flash of logo, it consisted of abstract testing patterns. Not one single participant reported being aware of any recognizable images in the video, so it really was subliminal.

      Their analysis of the results showed statistically significant differences between those shown IBM and those shown the Apple logo. Specifically, the people who got Apple produced a greater number of responses on the unusual uses test, which is a quantitative difference that nicely demonstrates their desire to be creative if not the actual creativity. The researchers also had judges independently rate the responses on a qualitative scale. The judges didn't know which logo the participants they were evaluation had seen. The researchers then did statistical analysis on the qualitative judgments, which showed that the judges consistently rated the responses of the Apple participants as more creative than those of the IBM participants.

      Then they did it again, two more times in fact, with different brands and traits.

      They had lots of checks and counter-checks built into it, and they used some fairly sophisticated statistical analysis on the results, including some analysis of variance (ANOVA) checks. As is common with psychological studies, the test participants were all undergraduates taking an intro to psych class. So the population was not particularly diverse in terms of age. But on the whole, it looks to me like a pretty well designed study.

    2. Re:It's a refleciton of pre-test scores by Ieshan · · Score: 1

      Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean for it to seem as though I didn't think it was a well written study, or as though I didn't like the design. I understood the experiment.

      I was just trying to quell the legions of people who would suggest that Apple was chosen because of it's transcendent quality of awesomeness. It was chosen because of it's association with the particular trait in question, relative to the other brand choice.

      It wasn't a criticism so much as an explanation. =)

    3. Re:It's a refleciton of pre-test scores by ozbird · · Score: 1

      Given that the Apple logo is pictorial and the IBM logo is text, different parts of the brain would be triggered to recognise the logos. Whether this translates into measurable change in creativity is debatable - "more creative" is the kind of "statistic" I'd expect to see in a shampoo commercial. ("15% more shine! 13% more bounce! 8% more creative!")

    4. Re:It's a refleciton of pre-test scores by Ieshan · · Score: 1

      Could be.

      But then you're probably stuck trying to explain the Disney vs. E! "honesty" bias in terms of text vs. picture, and I'm not sure how that would work.

    5. Re:It's a refleciton of pre-test scores by Selanit · · Score: 1

      Fair enough. ^_^

    6. Re:It's a refleciton of pre-test scores by drydirt · · Score: 1

      I don't even see what's so "neat" about it. Seems pretty obvious-- symbols that represent organizations, evoke how you feel about the organization. That's what symbols are for,

      Religions, countries, military orders, secret societies, whatever have known this for a few thousand years now. The red cross makes you feel safe. The skull and crossbones evokes fear, or a desire to drink grog. I don't see why it's news that corporations understand this too.

    7. Re:It's a refleciton of pre-test scores by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The logo of the guys who stole "Kimba" to make "The Lion King" inspires honesty??

  28. Whoa by d4rkypl · · Score: 1

    That explains why I can't get with any _original_ idea when I'm eating apples!

  29. To summarize then... by jd · · Score: 1

    What I think you're saying is that people will themselves reflect what they believe the logo reflects when they subliminally see the logo. The association becomes a suggestion. You can't control the association (and therefore cannot control the suggestion) but what can be controlled is how blurred the line is between the two. Would that be correct?

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    1. Re:To summarize then... by Ieshan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, you could read their intro for a more in-depth analysis and discussion of priming, but I wouldn't call it a suggestion so much as I would call it bias to act in a certain way.

      The basic idea behind priming is that there is a large interconnected network of information and that activating one piece of information partially "boosts" other connected pieces of information. When you are prompted to act in new tasks, you have a higher likelihood to engage in actions that have this extra "boost" in activation.

      Geek Priming Example:
      In geek terminology, it's something like this. Suppose you were Google, and imagine you were designing a system to deliver targeted advertising to people. You had thousands of possible ads you could show someone, but you want the advertising to be more specific.

      Lets say you were choosing between just two companies that want to sell advertising today. One of these companies is called "Joe's Fisheries", and they have a special on Sole (a kind of fish). One of these companies is called "Joe's Shoe Supply", and they've got a special on Sole Repair (the bottom of your shoes).

      You might intercept an email about Soles, but you're not sure which sole it is. You don't want to be selling Fish to guys who need shoe repair, and you don't want to be selling Shoes to guys who want fish. On the other hand, other words in the email tell you if it's about shoes (like laces, or boots) and other words tell you if it's about fish (scales, salmon, whatever).

      Whatever your way of deciding is, you probabilistically weight Fish over Shoe (or vice versa) depending on some other cues. Then you show the ad you think is most appropriate.

      In a priming study, basically what they're doing is providing some bogus information to your same cortical networks that weight and categorize information. They're feeding you stimuli (like "scales", and "salmon"), and when they ask you to use the word Sole in a sentence, you say something like, "Gee, I could really go for a nice filet of sole", rather than "I hate it when gum sticks in the Sole of my shoe".

      Mostly, these primes only affect the way you behave in either carefully constructed follow-up tasks, usually ones that require you to categorize or manipulate information. A classic example is something like Word Completion, for example:
      "SOL_".

      I'm sure you filled in "Sole" even though you could have put in "Solo" and "Sold", far more common words.

      See! You can be primed too!

    2. Re:To summarize then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See! You can be primed too!
      No I cant, because lucky for me I'm a half-wit and have never heard of soles the fish.
    3. Re:To summarize then... by LogicHoleFlaw · · Score: 1

      Actually, I saw "SQL".

      Guess what I'm getting bleary-eyed working on today.

      Though, I suppose that proves your point rather than discounting it.

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    4. Re:To summarize then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the ones who read it as SQL_ three times in a row ?

    5. Re:To summarize then... by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      Actually, I saw "SQL".
      I think it's time to give my databases a break for a while...

  30. Makes Sense by zdude255 · · Score: 1

    An abstract shape is more inspiring than letters that are seen 1000s of times a day. Next they'll study whether Apple's icon is more iconic.

  31. April issue by rbanffy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously, it's in the April issue.

  32. Beer by Dachannien · · Score: 3, Funny

    Participants subliminally viewing a Budweiser logo were able to crush roughly twice as many beer cans against their foreheads compared to those who viewed a Colt 45 logo. On the other hand, those viewing the Colt 45 logo were shown to be 65% more obnoxious when panhandling.

    1. Re:Beer by the_wesman · · Score: 1

      not to mention: 65% more awesome!

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    2. Re:Beer by kellyb9 · · Score: 1

      Participants subliminally viewing a Budweiser logo were able to crush roughly twice as many beer cans against their foreheads compared to those who viewed a Colt 45 logo. On the other hand, those viewing the Colt 45 logo were shown to be 65% more obnoxious when panhandling. Those who drank budweiser while carrying a colt 45 were more likely to vote Republican.
  33. Experiment 1 is flawed.... by Ardeaem · · Score: 5, Interesting
    As a researcher doing research in the field of subliminal perception, I read their preprint with interest. However, their experiment 1 is flawed. The did the IBM and Apple priming tasks on DIFFERENT DAYS. Which days, they do not say, but it is likely that there are differences in days of the week with respect to how "creative" people are. In my research, we fail to detect any subliminal effects of the type discussed here - the literature is full of methodological problems. I suspect their effect is a methodological artifact, as well.

    They don't mention whether exps 2 and 3 were done on different days, but given that they did it for expt 1, they probably did for 2 and 3 too.

    1. Re:Experiment 1 is flawed.... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1
      As a researcher doing research in the field of subliminal perception, I read their preprint with interest.

      Yes, you are correct, these droids are of no interest to us.

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    2. Re:Experiment 1 is flawed.... by DKlineburg · · Score: 1

      I want to know what there control is? Maybe i'm missing something, but shouldn't there be a group with no image? Or shouldn't they do it twice for both groups, if they don't konw what image there are seeing, having them do it with the image once, and one image a second time, or IBM first and Aple second, would give a more diverse obstract of how the diffrent images can relay diffrently in one person, or how one person can be affected by one when they had a control. All tests should be done on Wednesday, and 1st week brick, second week 2 x 4. Just a thought, seams kinda narrow as you were saying.

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    3. Re:Experiment 1 is flawed.... by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1

      But surely if they repeated it two more times, it would be unlikely that a significant amount of people in the groups happened to be in sync with each other? I agree that it does mean it is less accurate, but significant enough to change the results?

    4. Re:Experiment 1 is flawed.... by Ardeaem · · Score: 1
      Yes, it is a classic confound. Let's say they did the IBM priming on Monday and the Apple priming on Friday (They did them on different days with different people, but didn't say which days). Then the effect of DAYS is confounded with the effect of the PRIME. Here are three possible explanations of their results:
      1. Apple primes cause greater creativity
      2. People are more creative on Fridays than on Mondays
      3. People who volunteer to do experiments on Fridays are more creative than those who volunteer to do them on Mondays
      Having designed and run experiments, I know that participants at the beginning of the semester tend to be more motivated than those near the end, and it is purely a selection bias. All this means it is impossible to know which interpretation above is correct, and threatens any conclusion the authors wanted to draw. It is a critical flaw.

      The solution is to repeat the study, but this time counterbalance days; Half the people on Monday get IBM primes and half get Apple primes, and vice versa. When designing experiments, all factors not of interest that might have some effect should be controlled or randomized. Since DAY was not randomized with respect to PRIME, drawing conclusions is problematic.

  34. Umm... yes. So? by FredFnord · · Score: 1

    Was some other interpretation suggested?

    -fred

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  35. Next Issue by nschubach · · Score: 1

    In work to be published in the April issue
    It doesn't happen to ship April 1, does it?
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  36. Interrogation by NuclearError · · Score: 1

    What will this do for interrogation rooms? Will they have a table, a lamp, and mickey mouse wall paper?

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  37. Fox News Logo results by jpellino · · Score: 2, Funny

    Had to be burned, then buried, then dug up after a week and the ashes soaked in agua regia and scattered over a disused nuclear test site.

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  38. Hogwash. Hooey. Hokum. by jpellino · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a scientist familiar with subliminal perception and the power of brands, I'd like to say: Bunk. Unless You Make Equal All Prior Observations, "Research" Simply Can't Harbor Effects.

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    "Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
  39. Makes sense... by rhpenguin · · Score: 1

    That must be why I'm so confused when I'm computing... My laptop is a Thinkpad T40, and well... The picture says it all...
    http://www.wpyouth.com/IMG_03972.jpg

    1. Re:Makes sense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell is that white crusty stuff all over your keyboard?!?

  40. "Mozart Effect"? by sohare · · Score: 4, Informative

    This reminds me a bit of the so-called Mozart effect claimed by Shaw and Rauscher that has been accepted as true by the general public. Their studies were not reproduced and had pretty shoddy methodology. Consult http://skepdic.com/mozart.html.

    1. Re:"Mozart Effect"? by Geoff-with-a-G · · Score: 1
      Speaking of scientific rigor...

      "I can't document the flaws in study X, but it reminds me of study Y, which has documented flaws. This clearly demonstrates that study X is flawed."

      Well played.

    2. Re:"Mozart Effect"? by panta+rhei · · Score: 1

      If I remember correctly the Mozart effect is real, but it only lasts for a couple of minutes.

    3. Re:"Mozart Effect"? by MulluskO · · Score: 1

      "This clearly demonstrates that study X is flawed." He didn't make that jump. You did.
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  41. Apple is symbolic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple is loaded with symbolism, the logo is an iconic masterpiece of artwork.
    International Business Machine, Microsoft sounds small minded, they got nothing beyond some industrial bad taste in your mouth. There is nothing there to touch your mind and imagination.

  42. Apple Logo and Visual Acuity by PPH · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anecdotal evidence suggests that the visual acuity of Apple fanbois might be adversely affected.

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  43. Re:Psychology Haiku by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure... if you know about it as much as a pedestrian about string theory.

  44. I'm going for a re-trial by stringwraith · · Score: 1

    This is exactly what I told the Judge. The kid came past with a Yogi Bear T-shirt on. I felt compelled to shit in the woods. Mlud.

  45. As always... by jd · · Score: 0, Troll

    I have to say that geek writing is vastly superior to academic writing. Academia teaches methods that are astonishingly unclear. Sir Humphrey would be proud of how papers are written. Your writing, as is almost always the case with Slashdot posters who take the time to write serious stuff, is vastly superior in style. (This is one reason I'm surprised geeks don't often band up and do science journalism. They could do so with vastly greater accuracy than science journalists currently do, and with vastly superior presentation than academics ever manage.)

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    1. Re:As always... by Ieshan · · Score: 1

      Oh come on. All academics aren't bad. =) I've taught Intro Psych courses at my University, and it's always better to provide people with examples that are relevant in their own life, even if they don't reflect 100% of the research on the topic.

      Geeks are a great target audience for Psychology and Neuroscience, because even though they usually don't know much about neurons, they know an awful lot about networks and computers, and that's a very good background to have when approaching most of this material.

      Information Processing, Distributed Neural Nets - they're all models of the brain that were imported from the land of computers. I think you'd have a good time reading a modern psychology text if you found one that was geared to your interests. One of the biggest problems with intro books these days is that they're "dumbed down" in all the areas comp. sci people have no problem, and they're filled with examples that are really foreign to a lot of these types. It's kind of a shame to be honest, because when you get into it, experimental psychology is really one of the most incredible "applied engineering" disciplines out there. I think I can count four or five professors in my department alone who had undergrad degrees in physics or computer science and eventually switched to neuroscience. I got into psychology by hanging out in the lab and coding data analysis software and working for an absolutely fantastic guy. =)

  46. Re:Psychology Haiku by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My grandmother, mother, and sister are all psychology majors. That's three generations of bullshit I grew up with. My sister was probably the worst. Being in college when I was going through middle school and high school, she was always applying whatever the lesson of the day was to me. The more clinical aspects of it are alright, but shit like this is 100% grade A bullshit.

    Oh, and String Theory is bullshit so far too, and I know quite a bit about that.

  47. My eyes.. they hurt! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just stared at the Slashdot logo......

    Microsoft is teh sux0r!
    first post!
    I only I had a beowulf cluster of Apple logos on IBM machines......
    Linux is better than tea-bagging Master Chief!
    Ron Paul!!!!!!!
    Cowboy Neal!!!!


    Make it stop!!!! Please for the love of FSM make it STOP!!!!!!

  48. AAPL by heroine · · Score: 1

    So why aren't U people hitting BUY when U see AAPL?

    1. Re:AAPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen plenty of idiots omit "y" and "o" from "you", but to capitalize it when it doesn't need to be is a new low. Congrats, and stop posting.

  49. The Influence of E! by ml10422 · · Score: 1

    On the other hand, those exposed to the E! logo were 200% more catty!

  50. premature by still+cynical · · Score: 1

    Was this posted two weeks early?

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  51. Unreal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is so bullshit. Who comes up with these "studies"?

    I wish I had a nice fat education fund so I could rock out academia with ridiculous studies that pander to the lowest common denominator.

    Well done, how about a study on how so called researchers and scientists spend their time.

  52. Consumer Research? by quixote9 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why wasn't this published in the Journal of Irreproducible Results? Why?

    1. Re:Consumer Research? by ill+stew+dottied+ewe · · Score: 1

      One supposes that it is either reproducible, or that no studies have as yet failed to reproduce it.

  53. subliminal messaging? by Unlikely_Hero · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From what I recall subliminal messaging was dismissed as bunk a decade ago or earlier.

    Also...Disney...
    honest?...come on....

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    1. Re:subliminal messaging? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Clearly those participating in the study weren't familiar with the continuous copyright extensions put forth to keep Mickey Mouse in his corporate cage. Use a slashdotter population sample and you'll get different results.

      Mickey should be depicted with a copyright symbol tattooed in one ear and an infinity symbol in the other.

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    2. Re:subliminal messaging? by dwye · · Score: 1

      From what I recall subliminal messaging was dismissed as bunk a decade ago or earlier.

      After an extensive campaign of subliminal messages to that effect (after all, if everyone knows about it, and guards against it, it doesn't work, anymore).

      Also...Disney...

      honest?...come on....

      Perceived, not was. And by the general public, not by people concerned about extending copyright to ridiculous lengths.

    3. Re:subliminal messaging? by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1

      Seems pretty well accepted, and I'm pretty sure there is solid neuroscientific evidence that stimuli not consciously seen can have an effect on the brain. Perhaps you are confusing it with using subliminal messages to "program" people to do things they wouldn't normally do or believe, which does seem to be of questionable effectiveness.

  54. But... by professorfalcon · · Score: 1, Funny

    To be fair, the ones who saw the Apple logo were all Macs, and the ones who saw the IBM logo were all PCs.

  55. Disney = honest? Buhwahahaha! by liftphreaker · · Score: 3, Funny

    Disney made people more honest? Buhwahahahaha. That made my day.

  56. What other effects did the disney logo have? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did the Disney logo cause any increase in negative emotions towards jews and blacks?

  57. Psychology by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

    Psychology studies opinions of psychologists.

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  58. Conclusion does not follow... by argent · · Score: 1

    "Instead of spending the majority of their money on traditional print and television advertising, companies with established brand associations such as Apple may want to give serious consideration to shifting more marketing resources to product placement opportunities and other forms of outreach that emphasize brief brand exposures," Gavan Fitzsimons said.


    Does not follow. The map is not the territory. Assuming that the fundamental research is correct, it's the established marketing that created the associations they're measuring. They might as well suggest that people lose weight by moving to the moon - they're confusing the technique they're using to measure an effect with the effect itself.
  59. Its real and its everywhere by Scroatzilla · · Score: 1

    My first impression before RTFA is that, if this is true, then we have a viable argument for why our constant exposure to advertising is bad. Ive always thought that leaving the TV on 24/7 is to your brain what drinking toilet water is to your body: You cant necessarily see the germs that youre ingesting, but at some point theyre going to have a negative effect on you.

    Of course, it doesnt end at your TV: Newspapers, magazines, billboards-- the germs are everywhere.

    Its there to create awareness, and ad exec would say; or, maybe a more blunt ad exec would say, Its there to make you decide to buy the product.

    But, I think this shows that it does a lot more than that. And we should be concerned, and ask ourselves what were allowing our brains to ingest at any given time. And, what can we do about it?

  60. Link in parent is NSFW by Von+Helmet · · Score: 3, Informative

    Modding me up might be a good idea... Good job I opened that in a tab and was able to figure a way to close it again without showing everyone in the office what I think that was.

    1. Re:Link in parent is NSFW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG a picture of 3 butt cracks! You're so fired.

  61. But isn't by PatboyX · · Score: 1

    this just conditioning? Like we see the Apple apple, many times coupled with the phrase "Think Different" or in articles and ads suggesting it is super creative. And then we see the Apple apple and just unconsciously think "hey, be creative!"

  62. What about nationality by PieceofLavalamp · · Score: 1

    I would love to see how this test would vary by nationality. Apples big, recent success, the iphone, has only been a big success, as far as i know, in the US.

  63. Nothing new by gilesjuk · · Score: 1

    Sometimes brands do make you feel better or feel second class.

    If you know you have the best rated product or have "cool" clothes you feel more confident.

    Nobody ever says IBM is cool and that IBM is interesting, it symbolises dull business computers to most people. Their products are very sober and drab.

  64. I thunks differently by Ranger · · Score: 1

    So what happens when the Apple Reality Distortion Field meets the Pauli Effect?

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  65. Oh C'mon by chord.wav · · Score: 1

    Yeah, and water crystallize different depending your mood while you freeze it.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaru_Emoto

  66. Numbers count! by bigonazzi · · Score: 1

    I wonder how can you make any statistics on 25 people?!?

  67. That Ain't True, even to the sig by dwye · · Score: 1
    You evidently fail to socialize with the wrong sort of Mac user. No Mac user that I know would step into a Starbuck's to ask directions, let alone drink their overpriced milk with coffee favorings, or use their expensive internet sevice.

    > There's only one thing that differentiates man from the animals - we're not afraid of vacuum cleaners.

    Wrong, even here. My college roommate once ran screaming from our dorm room when another friend said, "Look, the vacuum cleaner is attacking you," and lunged at my roommate with the intake wand. Of course, said roommate was dropping acid, at the time, and that may have altered his perception and reactions a tad.

  68. Re:Other logos, QED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  69. Another Study Ruined by Statistics by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 1

    Go read the preprint and compare the differences between Apple and IBM results with the standard deviation measured in scores. In Experiment 1, with no delay, the difference is 1.6 and the standard deviation is 3.3. This tells those of us who work with statistics that the result isn't meaningful, even ignoring the systematic errors mentioned in a previous post (Apple and IBM exposures occuring on different days!!). The same sort of statistical and dseign tomfoolery carries on throughout the article. I suppose publishing in psychology is a lot easier than in physics.

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  70. And why is the logo on the back of their stuff? by egghat · · Score: 1

    Major design flaw or some conspiracy theory at work?

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