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Dell's Adamo Goes After MacBook Air

MojoKid writes "Adamo, pronounced 'A-dahm-o,' means 'to fall in love with' in Latin. Dell is certainly hoping you'll fall in love with this notebook's looks as well as its functionality. The Adamo's chassis is milled from a single piece of aluminum and features precision detailing with a scalloped backlit keyboard. Even the fan holes, which are punched out squares, have an attractive modern design. The Adamo features a thin 0.65-inch profile and weighs four pounds. The new ultra-portable will also offer Intel Core 2 Duo processors and DDR3 memory (up to 4GB), a 13.4-inch 16:9 HD display and a 128GB SSD hard drive. Pricing starts at $1,999 with Vista Ultimate 64." The Dell infomercial spokesmodel (video at the bottom of the link) concludes, "Adamo resulted from the union of technology with pleasure for the style-conscious individualist." OK, so he's no Steve Jobs.

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  1. Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by jddeluxe · · Score: 2, Funny

    They must be crazy to be running that out in the current economic environment.
    We'll see how mant they managed to sell...
    What's the upcharge to NOT get Vista Ultimate 64 on that?

    1. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      vista 64 is quite good, on my system (Q6600 4G of PC8000) every benchmark except disk write is higher than debian linux x86-64.

    2. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by Methlin · · Score: 1

      Well they've got the Apple pricing figured out; charge up to 50% more for having a better looking (to some) shell than another laptop with identical specs. And the shell probably doesn't cost any more or less than the "ugly" shell.

    3. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're paying extra for Steve Jobs' blessing with Apple. Who the heck wants to pay extra for Mike Dell's blessing?

    4. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the upcharge to NOT get Vista Ultimate 64 on that?

      There is no surcharge for that because you can't. Microsoft disallows manufacturers from installing the cheapo XP on netbooks with low specs. Anything over certain limits (>1gb RAM, screen size etc) has to have Vista.

    5. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More than 80% of people are still working. Lots of them probably feel pretty secure in their jobs. Especially the ones who would ever spend $2,000 on a new laptop (I don't see any problem with spending the $2,000, but good luck convincing me that a $2,000 laptop is $1,000 better than a $1,000 laptop).

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    6. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck also convincing you of Diminishing Returns.

    7. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by arminw · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      ....Well they've got the Apple pricing figured out....

      Except for the fact that it comes saddled with VISTA, rather than a decent, reliable operating system such as OSX. Even if they put Linux on it, they would have a better computer. Apple is still the only computer maker that understands the value of integrated hardware and software design. No piecemeal computer kit thrown together by others will ever quite match the integrated holistic approach of Apple products.

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    8. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by arminw · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      ...Microsoft disallows manufacturers....

      Well there is another albatross that manufacturers of computers other than Apple have around their necks. Because Apple is not subject to the legal whims of a convicted monopolist, they can put exactly the software features into their products they deem will give their customers the best experience. With Apple products, the distinction between hardware and software is nonexistent for all practical purposes. This is not and cannot be the case for anyone who buys the most important part of their product from a third party over which they have no control. It is the software that is at the heart of almost every modern high-tech product. The basic hardware components in a Macintosh computer of no different than in a Dell, HP or other manufacturers computers. Any good product is much more than the sum of its individual parts.

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    9. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by mrphoton · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points I would mod you up. Apple may be able to get away with it because people perceive they are getting value for money. But two grand to get Vista you have to be kidding. In the economy it is all about the net book and very low cost net books at that.

    10. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by Timothy+Brownawell · · Score: 1

      convicted monopolist

      "Convicted monopoly abuser", I'd think, since there's nothing wrong with simply having a monopoly.

    11. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They must be crazy to be running that out in the current economic environment.

      <sarcasm>Yeah, that sounds like a great idea... When enough people stop doing business, the economy will pick up in no time.</sarcasm>

      We'll see how mant they managed to sell...

      Not that it's any of your business.

      What's the upcharge to NOT get Vista Ultimate 64 on that?

      It's called buying your laptop from somebody else. It's a pretty difficult concept.

    12. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by aliquis · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      No piecemeal computer kit thrown together by others will ever quite match the integrated holistic approach of Apple products.

      ... except the hacks which will have better specs, price, cooling, repairability, upgradeability, ... and still run just as good-1.

    13. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by earnest+murderer · · Score: 1

      If you put it the right price point, you can sell your demo units without actually having to manufacture that shit. You get to sell out indefinitely, you're in demand, you have a "successful" product and a wee bit more press without actually having to make something worth having.

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    14. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      They weren't even convicted, it was a civil case...

    15. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      This is not "Apple pricing" at all. If anything, you are paying an extra $500 or so for the solid-state drive and a couple hundred for the design (as bad as it may be). At least with the Air, I wouldn't be opposed to paying a $100 or $200 more for the thin form factor. The Dell has nothing to offer in the design realm that's worth charging for.

    16. Re:Eevrybody's SURE to get in line for that... by aliquis · · Score: 1

      but good luck convincing me that a $2,000 laptop is $1,000 better than a $1,000 laptop).

      Easy with a $2000 from Dell vs $1000 from Apple.

      Much harder with $2000 Apple vs $1000 Dell.

  2. Can you change the battery? by OutLawSuit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think that's the question people want to know.

    1. Re:Can you change the battery? by aztektum · · Score: 1

      For 1,999 I'd hope with comes with 2 batteries and a butler to swap it out for you.

      They've seriously overpriced this thing. Apple gets away with it because, well, they're Apple and they don't care. A Vista laptop with meh specs will not sell when there are 100s of other options for 1-1,500 less.

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    2. Re:Can you change the battery? by techmuse · · Score: 5, Informative

      No. You actually have to send it in. Really.

    3. Re:Can you change the battery? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know, I own and regularly use 2 laptops, and I can count the number of times I've removed the battery on zero hands. It's not a big deal to me.

    4. Re:Can you change the battery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't really care. That's just you. I prefer to have a backup battery while i'm on my flight and swap them when I need to.

    5. Re:Can you change the battery? by earnest+murderer · · Score: 4, Funny

      I took my batteries out to save the weight.

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    6. Re:Can you change the battery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't fly much or very far, do you? I've taken multiple batteries with me for every flight for the past 3 years.

    7. Re:Can you change the battery? by dwater · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Perhaps if you could change the battery, you would regularly use just one laptop. I expect a spare battery (and charger) is cheaper than a whole other laptop...

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    8. Re:Can you change the battery? by charliesome · · Score: 1

      What the fuck is the point of having a PORTABLE computer then? May as well save money and get a desktop.

    9. Re:Can you change the battery? by Any+Web+Loco · · Score: 1

      I know you jest but I remember someone making this point on /. before: AC power is ubiquitous - surely there's a market for laptops that don't have batteries but that come with a built in power cord so you can plug into your nearest AC socket. Saves weight, saves space... I'd be up for one - I can't think of anywhere I would use a laptop ( (YMMV) that doesn't have an AC socket within a couple of meters.

    10. Re:Can you change the battery? by plumby · · Score: 1

      Rather difficult to sit on the sofa with a desktop monitor balancing on your lap, or to cart the whole lot between meeting rooms that all have power supplies.

    11. Re:Can you change the battery? by Verdatum · · Score: 1

      After about a year and a half, when your battery life is down to about 5 minutes, you suddenly understand why being able to replace it might be a desirable feature.

    12. Re:Can you change the battery? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      You should start a business and manufacture one. That's not a bad idea at all.

    13. Re:Can you change the battery? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      One's a tablet PC and lives in its laptop case, getting carted back and forth to places. One's a cheap MSI Wind I keep in my bedroom. There's also a work Dell laptop I use from time to time, for example, I took it home today because I called in sick.

      Anyway, I'm not saying that everybody is like me. I'm just saying that people on this site treat un-removable batteries like it's some kind of contagious disease or disaster that will end humanity when, in all likelihood, Apple and Dell have actually (get this) talked to their customers and determined that the benefits of getting rid of the battery outweigh the negatives.

    14. Re:Can you change the battery? by earnest+murderer · · Score: 1

      Actually I'm completely serious. For exactly those reasons.

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  3. Four pounds? by Nursie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My one and a half year old vaio SZ weighs less than that (about 3 pounds) and isn't all that thick.

    1. Re:Four pounds? by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 1

      My one and a half year old vaio SZ weighs less than that (about 3 pounds)...

      FWIIW so does the MacBook Air this thing is supposed to trump.

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    2. Re:Four pounds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My one and a half year old vaio SZ weighs less than that (about 3 pounds) and isn't all that thick.

      The Dell Latitude E4200 is even smaller and lighter (2.2 pounds).

      It's a nice laptop, but probably doesn't have the cool factor.

    3. Re:Four pounds? by sortius_nod · · Score: 1

      yes, but it's a sony...

    4. Re:Four pounds? by Nursie · · Score: 1

      It's a nice piece of hardware. The touchpad seems to have settled down into working pretty consistently now too...

      Yeah, I know folks hate sony, never did actually care about that. My ethics are questionable i guess.

    5. Re:Four pounds? by Fred_A · · Score: 5, Funny

      yes, but it's a sony...

      And you know what they say : "better safe than Sony".

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    6. Re:Four pounds? by lobiusmoop · · Score: 1

      My 9 year old Vaio N505SN is almost as thin as that and 2.6lbs. Nice tough magnesium shell. Still working great as an XP netbook after all these years too.

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    7. Re:Four pounds? by enigma32 · · Score: 1

      My 1.5 year old Vaio TZ17TN works fantastic. I have used it nearly every day for those 1.5 years- and nearly all day long. 1" thin, 2.7lbs. And I can swap the battery.

      I have owned lots of sony products, from CD players and MiniDisc units to laptops and televisions and have never had a problem. I don't know where the myth of sony as a terrible product comes from.
      They are frequently ahead of their time in design and they have had a level of technological innovation over the years that Dell dreams they could have.
      Have you ever been to Japan? Apple looks like shit. Any laptop sold in Japan looks infinitely better than even the slickest apple product sold in the US.

      US notebook makers have a lot to learn.

    8. Re:Four pounds? by beelsebob · · Score: 1

      Your one and a half year old vaio SZ weighs 4lb and is 1.5" thick according to sony's specs page.

      That makes it 3 times as thick as this, twice as thick as the thickest point on a MacBook Air, and 1 and a half times as thick as the normal MacBook.

      Oh, and heavier than the MacBook Air by a full pound.

    9. Re:Four pounds? by Nursie · · Score: 1

      1.5 != 3*0.65

      And was I comparing it to a macbook air?

      No, I was comparing it to this offering from Dell, which is slower, probably doesn't have much in the way of a 3D chip and isn't really that light.

    10. Re:Four pounds? by beef+curtains · · Score: 1

      While I agree with you re. Sony (my Sony ES receiver is a champ, and my 2-year-old Sony ES DVD player is solid so far), I have to disagree with "Have you ever been to Japan? Apple looks like shit. Any laptop sold in Japan looks infinitely better than even the slickest apple product sold in the US."

      A quick trip to CNET Japan's PC section (via Google Translation) reveals some very plain-looking laptops, with a mostly positive-sounding review of the Macbook Air prominently featured in the top section, in which I'm pretty sure the writer praises the design (can't be totally sure, Google's translation leaves much to be desired).

      The overall CNET Japan front page has a link to Onkyo's new Sotec C103 netbook, which looks fairly nondescript & doesn't have very exciting specs.

      I'm sure the Japanese market used to be flooded with products that we Americans could only imagined (or had only seen on TV shows that take place in the future and/or in space), but that doesn't appear to be the case anymore.

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    11. Re:Four pounds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My 1.5 year old Macbook Pro is almost twice as fat and weight around 5 lbs, aluminum foil quality shell and works like a piece of shit now to.

  4. Not exactly pretty by stag_beetle · · Score: 0

    Might be a nice computer for all I know, but the design is rather ugly and heavyhanded. NIce for a Dell, but no Apple-killer from a beauty standpoint.

    1. Re:Not exactly pretty by linhares · · Score: 1

      I think it is a looker, but another pathetic machine, like the MBAir. I got a MBAir and sold it after a few months for another sucker. It's awesome, unless you need space to put your files like music or movies. Moved to the new macbook, swapped out the nickel-and-dimer HD from Apple and put a 500GB one in. Now I can have photos, music and videos. These are fantastic machines, if youre happy to hang out with a "concept machine" and not a real one. Also, for the dell, WINDOWS ONLY??!?!?! WHAT THE FUCK???

    2. Re:Not exactly pretty by uniquename72 · · Score: 1

      Ports on the back is a deal-breaker for me. My workplace lets us buy computers with interest-free loans once every 2 years, but only from certain companies. I switched 4 years ago from Dell to HP because Dell (at the time) put most of their ports on the back, and those that were on the front pointed downwards at a bizarre angle that made them hard to access.

      Now the Adamo has ports on the back. Seriously, laptops still have ports on the back? What a PITA! I thought side or front ports were pretty standard now.

    3. Re:Not exactly pretty by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Might be a nice computer for all I know, but the design is rather ugly and heavyhanded. NIce for a Dell, but no Apple-killer from a beauty standpoint.

      It so happens that some of us buy computers and other random IT related gadgets with a list of criteria where looks don't get the first place (not even close). Somehow I've even seen people being quite happy with non Apple hardware. It's possible they hadn't yet had their latte with nougat flavoured syrup though.

      (not that I bothered to check the specs on that gizmo)

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    4. Re:Not exactly pretty by xouumalperxe · · Score: 1

      It so happens that some of us buy computers and other random IT related gadgets with a list of criteria where looks don't get the first place (not even close)

      That's the funny part. From watching the video in TFA (ok, let's call it what it is: after watching the ad), I got the feeling that it was a desperate attempt at selling something sexy, not something functional. It went on about "people will look, and that's okay", and "Adamo is latin for attraction", etc etc etc. The guys are putting freaking leather accents on the laptops (definitely on the Studio XPS 13, from the video I got the impression the Adamo has them too). At least Apple always portrays its products as useful first, and sexy after (or, rather, just imply that it's sexy).

    5. Re:Not exactly pretty by value_added · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seriously, laptops still have ports on the back?

      Ports on the side? The right side is where I keep my coffee, and a mouse that I try not to use. The left side is where I keep my pad, a calculator, a book or two or three, and an ashtray for when I get tired of whatever I'm doing. The back, on the other hand, is dead space, all the way across the table to the wall. Why not use the back?

      What a PITA! I thought side or front ports were pretty standard now.

      They, as are a lack of serial ports. If you want, I can bitch about that, too. ;-)

    6. Re:Not exactly pretty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least Apple always portrays its products as useful first, and sexy after (or, rather, just imply that it's sexy).

      Apple doesn't talk much about 'sex appeal' at all. A guy in a black turtleneck comes out on a stage holding up the new device being announced. He describes its features, and demonstrates it. He sounds interested and enthusiastic about his own company's product, but he doesn't insult your intelligence. He underplays the product's weak points and emphasizes its advantages. He then moves on to something else. That's it.

      This, on the other hand, is just pathos in action. Everybody at Dell should be literally sick to their stomachs with shame.

    7. Re:Not exactly pretty by sych · · Score: 1

      He *does* use the word "gorgeous" a lot (but that's as close as he gets to saying anything is "sexy").

    8. Re:Not exactly pretty by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Ports on the back? Gasp!...as if it is so hard to get to the ports on the back of an ultra-thin laptop that weighs 4 pounds or less.

  5. I am disappointed by overzero · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Adamo resulted from the union of technology with pleasure...."

    A laptop is not the first thing I thought of when seeing that phrase. Not that sort of laptop, at least.

    1. Re:I am disappointed by kestasjk · · Score: 4, Informative

      Have you seen Dell's YouTube video? They actually call it an aphrodisiac (no joke), and say they want to "redefine power".
      It's clearly trying to be the Mac "meet the designers" segment (right down to the foreign sounding artistic designer), but it ends up more like a parody of one.

      http://youtube.com/watch?v=QUJqWc6seYk

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    2. Re:I am disappointed by sootman · · Score: 5, Funny

      O M F G... did you catch the "unboxing" bit? A plain fucking brown cardboard box?!?!? (At the 30-second mark.) Dude--if it's a plain-ass cardboard box, don't show it in the ad! My only guess is that this was done by some guys who got some advance knowlege of impending layoffs at Dell that snuck into their boss' office and saw their pink slips in his drawer.

      Yeah, I'm sure this is really keeping Steve Jobs up nights. Maybe this was Mike's plan--to have Steve die in a laughing fit. Steve's probably conference-calling Phil Schiller and Tim Cook right now, saying "You know, I'm gonna retire early. You guys will be fine without me."

      OK, just finished the video... so it's two pounds heavier than the Air and still no optical drive?!?!? The ports can't weight that much. What the fuck is it made from, lead?

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    3. Re:I am disappointed by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      Yeech. It looked more like an infomercial to me.

      I thought Dell was trying to distance themselves from stuff like this....

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    4. Re:I am disappointed by overzero · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm pretty sure the writer for that just won a bar bet with his friends.

      "Adamo was created to elicit desire and redefine the image of power."
      -Are we talking about a penis here?

      "Once you hold it, you won't want to put it down."
      -Yup, definitely a penis.

      "People will stare and that's OK."
      -I do what I can for the world.

      "Because with this ultra-thin, portable aphrodisiac at your side, lack of attention won't be a problem."
      -Wait... ultra-thin? Staring is no longer OK. =(

      "The whole product just feels very solid."
      -Now we're talking. I'll just let that last remark slide.

      "We wanted to make sure the product appealed equally to women and men."
      -...

    5. Re:I am disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why was this retarded fanboy shit tagged funny?

    6. Re:I am disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boxes are serious business.

      Your post reminded me more of a teenager talking about fashion blunders rather than a laptop.

    7. Re:I am disappointed by Anonymusing · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm sure this is really keeping Steve Jobs up nights. Maybe this was Mike's plan--to have Steve die in a laughing fit.

      Or, alternatively, Apple commissioned Dell to design and advertise this thing....

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    8. Re:I am disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ports can't weight that much. What the fuck is it made from, lead?

      This classifies as "funny"?

      The laptop uses a sheet of glass on the screen, and has minimal plastic? The case is made from aluminum.

      Read, listen, watch, learn

    9. Re:I am disappointed by JCSoRocks · · Score: 1

      It's like a bad porn movie. The background music, the terrible acting, the uninterested actors mumbling out random keywords.

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    10. Re:I am disappointed by trouser · · Score: 1

      ...foreign sounding artistic designer.

      You know he doesn't just sound foreign, that guy's really not from around here. OMFG!

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  6. Sounded pretty good... by DarkRhystar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...until the "with Vista Ultimate 64" part.

    1. Re:Sounded pretty good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounded pretty good ... until the "with Vista Ultimate 64" part.

      I lost interest at "Dell".

    2. Re:Sounded pretty good... by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Not sure about the "sounding" part.

      "Adamo, pronounced 'A-dahm-o,' [...]"
      As opposed to being pronounced what ? 'Gloofingle' ?

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    3. Re:Sounded pretty good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then it sounded wonderful. Seriously, 64-bit Vista is the best OS ever made by Microsoft. Fast, stable, and caches everything to hell with sufficient RAM.

    4. Re:Sounded pretty good... by wwwillem · · Score: 1

      "Adamo, pronounced 'A-dahm-o,' [...]"

      And you really believe that the Dell helpdesk dude in Bangalore will pronounce it like that??

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    5. Re:Sounded pretty good... by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      As opposed to "Adam-O"

      AFAIK, despite it's supposed Latin roots it's just Italian/Spanish etc for Adam, the dude from Genesis.

      Stick an 'o' on the end of a word and pronounce it with an Italian intonation somehow makes it more sophisticated, perhaps.

    6. Re:Sounded pretty good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's funny, because I'm near certain that there'll be a bunch of Americans talking about this Uh-day-mo thing they saw.

    7. Re:Sounded pretty good... by ecotax · · Score: 1

      Well, if that's the problem....

      According to TFA it ships with: 'Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium Edition SP1, 64-bit' - not 'Ultimate'.

      One could argue that an OS that is not ultimately Windows must be an improvement over an OS that is; personally I don't care, since neither one is MacOS.

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  7. An Adamo without Vista by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    An Adamo without Vista is like chocolate cake without mustard.

    Give me the computer without slathering it up with old smelly mayonnaise, please. Thanks.

    1. Re:An Adamo without Vista by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I initially read "chocolate cat without mustard", which sounds even better.

    2. Re:An Adamo without Vista by gnugnugnu · · Score: 1

      Actually you might be surprised a bit of Wasabi (spicy but not exactly mustard) can take the edge off a chocolate fudge cake and enhance the overall flavor

      http://www.rllmukforum.com/index.php?showtopic=129819

  8. What the frak... by richdun · · Score: 0

    (just to get this out of the way) Early adopters are reporting that the Adamo seems to severely dislike the Roomba unless it needs its room cleaned, and every so often wants to get a little too comfortable with that $4 latte you bought this morning.

  9. screen real estate? by stokessd · · Score: 1

    Hopefully the screen resolution is higher than the macbook air. That would make it more attractive to me.

    By straight looks the air is the clear winner. But honestly, neither is all that practical. The beauty of an ultra-light notebook is largely diluted when you add the weight of a bag, and all the other junk you carry with you. I'll take a slightly larger and heavier and more durable model for less money.

    Sheldon

    1. Re:screen real estate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just get a padded sleeve and carry the whole thing in a briefcase, knapsack, tote bag or whatever you normally carry your stuff in. I've carried a laptop for years in the water sleeve part of a normal knapsack and never had a problem. Still lots of room for everything else and you don't go around screaming "look at me, I have a computer!"

    2. Re:screen real estate? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      The beauty of an ultra-light notebook is largely diluted when you add the weight of a bag, and all the other junk you carry with you. I'll take a slightly larger and heavier and more durable model for less money.

      I switched from a Macbook Pro to an Air and to me it makes a big difference while traveling. More than I expected. I use it only on the road, and that's not doing much more than Mail, Safari, Rails, TextMate, and an FTP client. As for cost, I got it refurbished with and SSD for $1,250, and if they didn't tell me I couldn't have distinguished it from new. I wouldn't have bought it for more, but I had to replace the old one and stumbled into that deal.

    3. Re:screen real estate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Macbook Air's screen resolution is 1280x800. Adamo's resolution is 1280x720p. Thats an 11% increase in vertical screen real estate.

  10. Holy mother of God, this is lame by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=QUJqWc6seYk

    How can they do this? How can this get out of the marketing department at Dell without someone getting fired, or sued, or a stop-payment notice put on their last paycheck at least?

    1. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUJqWc6seYk

      Why explicitly specify port 80?
      If you put the http URI, default port 80 is assumed.

    2. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 2, Funny

      Does spooge wipe more easily from a solid block of aluminium?

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    3. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, holy shit. Marketing a product as being cool and hip is the least cool, most deeply unhip thing they could have done. Fuck firings, I'm surprised there haven't been any suicides.

    4. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Ultra thin portable aphrodisiac"

      Money quote right there, baby!

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    5. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by sortius_nod · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I demand executions... of that bald wanker and the arrogant french fuck. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!

    6. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like your wang, aside from the aphrodisiac part.

    7. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by NI4NI · · Score: 1

      Apparently you have never worked at Dell. I was amazed at the number of heart attacks from week to week.

    8. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Marketing a product as being cool and hip is the least cool, most deeply unhip thing they could have done.

      Nothing wrong with marketing a product as being cool and hip. Failure of that magnitude, though, suggests that sometimes suicide is the answer.

    9. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by ZERO1ZERO · · Score: 1

      LOVE the brown cardboard box at 0:23. I can't wait to see the obligatory youtube 'unboxing' videos. Oh wait..

    10. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by Mozk · · Score: 1

      He said it wrong, baby!

      There's no voiced postalveolar fricative (the s in treasure) in aphrodisiac. Where do you even learn a pronunciation like that?

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    11. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Atleast you're reasonable safe it don't get in.

      Me? I have Macbook Pro with iSkin keyboard cover ...

    12. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by nine-times · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah, that's pretty crazy.

      Compare to this:http://www.apple.com/macbook/the-new-macbook/

      Dell even put a foreigner in front of a white background to talk about the design, except he's all out of focus. It's like a retarded copy made by amateurs, filled with marketing speak. "the union of technology with pleasure for the style-conscious individualist"? What the hell does that mean? It was "created to elicit desire and re-define the image of power"? "ultra-thin portable aphrodisiac"?

      At best, it looks like it should be the rough draft that their marketing people mocked up as the pitch for some kind of ad. If Dell can't do better than this, then Apple deserves to own the reality distortion field.

    13. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by Mozk · · Score: 2, Informative

      In that video there was a total of 30 seconds of actually useful information. And even some of that was vague and left important information out. I tried translating:

      - 13.4 inch LCD -> Contrast? Response time?
      - 16:9 720p -> 1280×720 resolution
      - Aluminum frame -> Thickness? Weight? Scratch-resistance?
      - "Lightning-fast" Intel Core 2 Duo -> Core? Clock? Cache?
      - Intel Centrino processors -> Chipset?
      - "2GB & 4GB configuration" -> 2 or 4 GB RAM – Clock? DDR2?
      - "Draft Wireless N" -> 802.11n – Brand? Model?
      - "Integrated Mobile Broadband" -> Brand? Model?
      - "Bluetooth 2.1" -> Bluetooth what?
      - "Four ports" -> eSATA, 2 USB, Firewire
      - "100% Solid State Drive" -> Capacity? Speeds? Cycles? 100% as opposed to what?

      What about power consumption? Batteries? Graphics? Preloaded shit?

      Why would anybody care who designed it or the bullshit they spew about their inspiration?

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    14. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      Senator Grassley, is that you?

    15. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by gfxguy · · Score: 0, Redundant

      1.2Ghz baby... woohoo!

      The thing's a dog. Ridiculous.

      Having one of these is like that "I'm rich" app for the iPhone (or whatever the hell it was called).

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    16. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by dubbreak · · Score: 1

      "Ultra thin portable aphrodisiac"

      Money quote right there, baby!

      It's like the Olson twins

      on my lap!

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    17. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 3, Informative

      From the online ordering page for the advanced model, hope this helps:

      Processor Intel® Core(TM)2 Duo Processor SU9400 (1.4GHz/800MHz FSB/3M L2 Cache)
      Memory 4GB Dual-channel 800MHz DDR3 SDRAM (2 x 2GB)
      Keyboard Dell(TM) Backlit Keyboard with Touchpad
      Video Card Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X4500MHD
      Hard Drive 128GB Solid State Hard Drive
      Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium (64-bit)
      Wireless Network Card Intel(R) WiFi Link 5300 (802.11a/g/n)
      Bluetooth Dell(TM) Wireless 370 Bluetooth 2.1 Module
      Primary Battery 6-Cell (40WHr) Li-Ion Primary Battery
      Mobile Broadband Dell Wireless 5530 HSDPA3.6 mobile broadband mini-card for Vodafone
      Item included in the System Internal 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet
      Item included in the System DisplayPort Output with External DVI Adapter Included
      LCD Premium Onyx Black Finish with 13.4" 720p WLED (1366x768) HD Display with 1.3 mega pixel web cam
      Power Supply 45W AC Adapter

    18. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by skam240 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Seriously? I hope this is an ad targeted at Frenchmen (he obviously speaks natively some Latin based language) who are thoroughly unimpressive while speaking English. I hope this is a large and affluent market for Dell to tap into otherwise I don't understand... ...Oh jesus...

      Did the native English speaker just refer to this laptop as an aphrodisiac!?

      The thing that makes me the most angry is that the person who approved this little gem probably makes more money than me. I just hope the person in charge of making it doesn't (but sadly I think they might)

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    19. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by Cathbard · · Score: 1

      Is that why they wanted to make it thin? Maybe it's aphrodisiac qualities are only activated if used as a suppository.

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    20. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by rdnetto · · Score: 4, Funny

      http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=QUJqWc6seYk

      Slashdot, the only website where people actually put the port number in links...

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    21. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by ahoehn · · Score: 1

      it looks like it should be the rough draft that their marketing people mocked up as the pitch for some kind of ad

      Precisely. But even in a mockup, there's no excuse for that script. I mean - honest to god - who types out "style-conscious individualist" and doesn't hang themselves by the cord of their own keyboard?

      I'm ashamed to belong to the same profession as the poor copywriter who wrote this shit.

      You, get up from your desk, you belong in Ad Sales.

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    22. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by mako1138 · · Score: 1

      Wow. It felt like a late-night infomercial.

    23. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by Swampash · · Score: 1

      I'm ashamed to belong to the same profession as the poor copywriter who wrote this shit.

      "Our focus on industrial design ... serve as the inspiration for Adamo."

      Really? Your focus on industrial design serve as the inspiration?

      I too am a copywriter, and I want this motherfucker hunted down and killed.

    24. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      So, dude... apparently you're not getting a Dell?

      This is hardly the first time through the "oh my god that sucks" marketing shredder for Dell.

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    25. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Why explicitly specify port 80?

      Its because nobody told you the port number where all the really cool stuff is.

    26. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by dirtyhippie · · Score: 1

      All due respect, I'm pretty sure you and I, and 99.9% of slashdot, is not in the demographic they are targeting (or trying to target).

    27. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess this computer must be made specifically for watching porn.

    28. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      I only watched the first 30 seconds or so, but how blatently can you rip Apple off. Having the chief designer (or whatever the title) on a white background talking about the technical challanges. That's the same thing Apple does with their iPod and laptop intro videos.

      Then you go into a BestBuy and now all the Windows laptops have the same "demo" with the "Go back to desktop" triangular link in the upper left corner.

      It is embarassing how blatantly and clearly PC manufacturers are copying apple in the marketing department (and I'm no Apple fanboy, don't have a single product, except the iPod). But they still haven't figured out to connect those machines to the network so that you can browse the web a bit to test ride the thing. Wouldn't want people reading their email on your product, that would be the worst.

    29. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Well yeah, part of my point is it's like they used the language the ad executive came up with before it was passed to a copywriter for... you know... actually writing the thing.

    30. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by cepayne · · Score: 1

      Why does the DELL promo video "Not Show" a full on video
      of the keyboard and screen? Likely because it is a nearly identical
      rip off of the macbook pro.

      Other similarities, built from single solid piece of aluminum
      and glass screen.

      Ship it with a better OS and maybe Dell can join Apple's premium
      laptop market. Otherwise forget about it.

      Will this be the next Dell item to be made overseas?
      http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2009/03/04/dell-well-outsource-every-new-product-one-at-a-time/

      And $2,000 USD for a Windows laptop..? Gimme a break.
      Dell products are cookie cutter designs with cheap power
      supplies and limping hard drives. (my own experience
      supporting Dells at work).

    31. Re:Holy mother of God, this is lame by rossifer · · Score: 1

      "Ultra thin portable aphrodisiac"

      Money quote right there, baby!

      It's like the Olson twins on my lap!

      Ew. What kind of tips do you have to get skeletal drug-addicted skanks off your clothes? Will Oxy-clean do it?

  11. good, welcome BACK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice to see Dell get BACK to the High End. There was only the choice of Sun Microsystems left for awhile.

    1. Re:good, welcome BACK! by sethstorm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Going high end would mean them returning all support to the US and seeing how they can cram an E-IPS panel into a laptop form factor.

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  12. $1999 with "Vista" by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Funny

    Could I maybe get it for $1000 without Vista?

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    1. Re:$1999 with "Vista" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but you can get it for $2099 without Vista.

    2. Re:$1999 with "Vista" by amirulbahr · · Score: 1

      All jokes aside. The version without Vista Ultimate would certainly not be reduced by the ticket price, even the standard OEM ticket price of Vista Ultimate.

      It continues to astound me that this anti-competitive behaviour gets overlooked by the world's competition watchdogs.

    3. Re:$1999 with "Vista" by billcopc · · Score: 1

      Dude, it's not overlooked, it's endorsed.

      The government doesn't want to knock MS too hard, because that just might drive them to move even more jobs overseas, and/or withdraw campaign contributions.

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    4. Re:$1999 with "Vista" by mochan_s · · Score: 1

      I think one of the Vista versions is a codename for XP.

      I think if you order vista business, then it's an automatic downgrade/upgrade to XP. It costs more though.

    5. Re:$1999 with "Vista" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think at this point Microsoft is actually paying people to install Vista rather than charging for it.

  13. poor latin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    ""Adamo, pronounced 'A-dahm-o,' means 'to fall in love with' in Latin."

    phhh, as any fule knos, it really means 'I fall in love with' if they had wanted it to mean 'to fall in love with' it should be called 'adamare'

    come on, this is a basic 1st conjugation verb with a preposition, basic stuff.

    1. Re:poor latin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So... to make this laptop run at full gallop you need to adamare?

    2. Re:poor latin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In their defense, there is a long-standing tradition of confusing the "dictionary form" (i.e. first person singular) of a verb with the infinitive. Other examples of this phenomenon are the words audio and video which are commonly claimed to mean "to hear" and "to see".

    3. Re:poor latin by damburger · · Score: 4, Funny

      "People called Romanes they go the house"?

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    4. Re:poor latin by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

      You say "a-dam-o", I say "a-dahm-o". Let's call the whole thing off!

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    5. Re:poor latin by Fieryphoenix · · Score: 1

      Drat, you beat me to it. Though my Latin's so rusty I would have embarrassed myself by spelling it adamere. Though I might have had fun with it and gone total Latin geek and typed ADAMERE. Nah, probably not, there's no Vs in it.

    6. Re:poor latin by linhares · · Score: 1

      a-dam-giva-damn?

    7. Re:poor latin by drolli · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I did not use latin for the last 18 years and even i thought something was wrong....

    8. Re:poor latin by quickOnTheUptake · · Score: 3, Insightful

      a long standing tradition among those who didn't make it past the week of Latin.

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    9. Re:poor latin by quickOnTheUptake · · Score: 2, Funny

      first. the first week of latin. damn.

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    10. Re:poor latin by FooGoo · · Score: 1

      I suspect the legal departments wanted to be able to protect their branding.

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    11. Re:poor latin by porl · · Score: 1

      it says 'romans go home!' :D

      nice

    12. Re:poor latin by blueskies · · Score: 1

      I had believed you, but then i looked it up:

      http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran?url=http%3A%2F%2F&type=text&text=adamo&from=ltt&to=eng

      It looks like they got it right. amare means "to love" but you don't need the ad part for that.

    13. Re:poor latin by zero-point-infinity · · Score: 1

      Wrong part of the word. It's not the addition of the ad- prefix that people are complaining about. That's rather clearly modifying the meaning in a sensible way. The issue is that with the suffix -o, the verb is in the first person present indicative whereas they're translating it as the infinitive (which would have the -are suffix).

    14. Re:poor latin by blueskies · · Score: 1

      I agree with what you are saying. But the reason i was surprised was when i looked it up online it came up as adamo.

      I know that amare -> to love, but i'm confused as to why the translator agreed with the Dell translation.

    15. Re:poor latin by Petrushka · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As sibling posts have noted, it's traditional to make a direct mapping between the English "dictionary" form, which is the infinitive, and the Latin "dictionary" form, which is the first person singular.

      More puzzling to me is where they got the idea that it means "fall in love with". It means "love earnestly"; that's a perfectly acceptable meaning, so why not quote that one?

      Also I wonder where the submitter got the idea that the pronunciation ought to be "a-dahm-o". That may be how Dell are pronouncing it, but in Latin the ictus is on the first syllable: "a-dah-mo". Both the first two syllables are short, guys.

      Just for the sake of completeness, here's the entry on adamo in the best (not most recent; best) Latin-English dictionary.

    16. Re:poor latin by zero-point-infinity · · Score: 1

      Depends on the source. Knowing what I was looking for, I was able to find a listing of the whole conjugation table on wiktionary (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/adamo#Latin) and another site that used the standard 4 forms for listing a latin verb (http://www.latin-dictionary.net/info/word/728.html).

      After playing around a bit with your translator, it looks like it translates any first person present latin verb into the english infinitive. So the confusion is coming from a bad translation convention.

    17. Re:poor latin by Cathbard · · Score: 1
      I know it's a travesty. It's like writing "Romanes Eunt Domus"

      Now, write it out correctly a hundred times.

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    18. Re:poor latin by iron-kurton · · Score: 1

      That's comedy gold, thanks for the laugh :)

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    19. Re:poor latin by peater · · Score: 1

      ""Adamo, pronounced 'A-dahm-o,' means 'to fall in love with' in Latin."

      phhh, as any fule knos, it really means 'I fall in love with' if they had wanted it to mean 'to fall in love with' it should be called 'adamare'

      come on, this is a basic 1st conjugation verb with a preposition, basic stuff.

      Yeah what he said...

    20. Re:poor latin by blueskies · · Score: 1

      ah. Thanks for the clarification. Besides being a poor latin student it was years and years ago. I barely remember: sum, es, est, sumus, estis, sunt.

    21. Re:poor latin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or those who have never studied any language at all. Greek and Latin list their verbs in first person singular; Arabic lists its verbs in third person "past." The Spanish or French paradigm of verbs doesn't extend everywhere, you know.

    22. Re:poor latin by jo42 · · Score: 1

      They should have called it "Tonto" - as only a true 'tonto' would pay $2K US for an over-priced pile of under-spec'd door wedgery.

  14. Dell's Adamo comes After MacBook Air by sbeckstead · · Score: 1

    Dell's Adamo comes AFTER MacBook Air. There fixed that for ya!

    1. Re:Dell's Adamo comes After MacBook Air by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dell's Adamo comes AFTER MacBook Air.

       
      ....and sometimes not at all!
      [Ducks]

  15. I can picture it now... by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dell Ad Exec #1: We need a foreign spokesman to give our product a refined cosmopolitan vibe. We can save some money by using an employee.

    Exec #2: How about one of mexican janitors?

    Exec #3: How about one of our indian support staff?

    Dell Ad Exec #1: Ok, maybe not. I think my cock-tease secretary mentioned her boyfriend was European. That's close enough.

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  16. You say adamo, I say armadillos. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    I find it funny to see an online ad for the Apple MacBook while entering a comment for story on the Dell Armadillio. :P

    1. Re:You say adamo, I say armadillos. by jonr · · Score: 1

      Ad?

    2. Re:You say adamo, I say armadillos. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Slashdot has ads running on the comment entry page. One for the MacBook, one for a ThinkPad, and another for fixing your Mac. If Dell was smart, they would've bought up the ads before this story appeared. Go figure...

    3. Re:You say adamo, I say armadillos. by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 1

      Slashdot has ads?

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    4. Re:You say adamo, I say armadillos. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot has a comment entry page? I just type comments into the thread.

  17. A-a-this is a product-a-you must want-a- we think by egork · · Score: 0, Redundant

    a a a a
    because when women and men see leather it is leather. and a a a , it is (we have not seen Apple Air before) a product.

  18. Vista Home not Ultimate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The web page list "Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium Edition SP1, 64-bit" not Vista Ultimate 64 for $1,999.

  19. While this is the awesome... by MrCrassic · · Score: 1

    ...I have a heightened sense of doubt with this product. It targets the Air well, but there isn't much that the laptop offers to make the Air's target audience REALLY want to get this. Coupled with the fact that it's not an Apple product makes it even more difficult. It's also pretty heavy for a laptop of this caliber.

    I hope it does well, since it's a beautiful and a LOT more versatile than the overpriced sheet metal that is the Air.

    1. Re:While this is the awesome... by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I hope it does well, since it's a beautiful and a LOT more versatile than the overpriced sheet metal that is the Air.

      Really? I can run Windows on a MacBook Air. How well does an Adamo run OS X?

    2. Re:While this is the awesome... by dmullenaux · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Really? I can run Windows on a MacBook Air. How well does an Adamo run OS X?

      It'd probably run great if apple would allow it.

    3. Re:While this is the awesome... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Would run fine, if Steve Jobs would let it

    4. Re:While this is the awesome... by Mijion · · Score: 0

      The Dell has crappy intel graphics while the macbook air has nvidia graphics, clearly you have no clue on telling the difference between the specs. The Dell is even slower and costs more, Macbook Air with Windows Vista is still cheaper

    5. Re:While this is the awesome... by surfingmarmot · · Score: 1

      Ahem...a ...no. The AIR is several hundred dollars cheaper comparing the base configurations for both machines. You pressed that knee-jerk moronic "apple is expensive" reflex button again without thinking. Where do you think you are posting? Some place where people hate facts and prefer unfounded opinion, rumors, innuendo, and fiction like Slashdot? Oh wait.

    6. Re:While this is the awesome... by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      But alas, they don't. This small fact doesn't make a computer that only runs Windows more versatile than a computer that can run Windows and OSX.

  20. Dell has sold out to Marketing by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you haven't watched the movie in the link, you absolutely have to. I don't know what Dell was thinking but it didn't come from the realm of sanity (and let me mention that the laptop itself looks pretty cool. It's just Dell marketing that is quite out there. Really, watch the movie). It is so amazingly over the top, it's like they took every bad Apple cliche and made it into a marketing movie. For your pleasure I took some of the best quotes from the movie:

    "get ready to witness a true love story by Dell"
    "machined aluminum"
    "Adamo resulted from the union of technology with pleasure, for the style conscious individualist" (woahoah! Any guess what their target market is? Any? at all?)
    "machined aluminum" (they seemed to be quite proud of that point)
    "ultra-thin portable aphrodisiac" (oh yes, they actually said that!)

    Adamo. For all your computer love needs. I guess.

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    1. Re:Dell has sold out to Marketing by girlintraining · · Score: 1

      (woahoah! Any guess what their target market is? Any? at all?)

      What, as if the price tag and pushing aesthetics (not a single real tech spec there) didn't give it away?

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    2. Re:Dell has sold out to Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the style conscious individualist

      Isn't that oxymoronic?

    3. Re:Dell has sold out to Marketing by quarterbuck · · Score: 1

      The link does not go to Dell. What are you doing here ? Not only do you read the link, you then google the product, go to the manufacturers website, watch the video and then comment on it ? That sacrilege - you should be ashamed of yourselves being on slashdot.

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    4. Re:Dell has sold out to Marketing by WiiVault · · Score: 1

      I liked when they pointed out that Dell is known for industrial design of the aesthetic variety. I've got no problem with Dell but they are about as plan jane in most of their models as anybody. Even HP has the TouchSmart, and Sony has the fashion conscious Vaio. They make decent machines, but lets be honest guys.

    5. Re:Dell has sold out to Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't really understand the need for the "rich Corinthian leather", but I'm probably not in the target demographic.

    6. Re:Dell has sold out to Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And move the mouse to the left and to the right when you get to choose between Admire and Desire. Notice the change in tone of the music? More treble to the left, more bass to the right...

      Bizarre that someone would think about this.

      Looks lovely, blah blah, but frankly you get a lot more bang for your buck buying a Precision M6400 laptop. I have an MB6300, which is lovely, with a great screen and keyboard - an M6400 has 4 cores.

      I'm working with Windows at present, but my father has an M6300 and has put Ubuntu on it without problems. Nice. Why bother with an overpriced Mac when you can have an M6300/6400 with Linux?

    7. Re:Dell has sold out to Marketing by gujo-odori · · Score: 1

      Don't forget to mention that if a person is style-conscious, s/he isn't much of an individualist. Style-conscious = having an above-average concern with what others think of your physical appearance. Individualist = not caring very much what others think of your appearance, you wear/compute on whatever you like.

    8. Re:Dell has sold out to Marketing by Matt+Perry · · Score: 1

      style conscious individualist

      If someone is an individualist, they wouldn't care what someone else things of their style.

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    9. Re:Dell has sold out to Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's because the internet runs on porn. I get it! Isn't it obvious? I can't wait until they launch the accessories! I hope they aren't machined aluminum as well... Yikes! Too chilly!!!

    10. Re:Dell has sold out to Marketing by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Isn't that oxymoronic?

      It's definitely some kind of moronic.

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    11. Re:Dell has sold out to Marketing by cdonati · · Score: 1

      Whoever made this video was either unconcerned with its aesthetic appeal or was too incompetent to achieve the desired look. The key job alone is absolutely terrible. Even on YouTube's low resolution, the soft and flickering edges of the people's faces were very distracting.
      They didn't even accomplish a proper fade out! If you watch the last half second of the video, you actually see completely through the man holding the laptop.
      What puzzles me the most is why they thought it was necessary to superimpose them in a perfectly normal looking room.

  21. But... by RandomChars · · Score: 3, Interesting

    will it run ubuntu without any huge issues?

    1. Re:But... by linhares · · Score: 1

      probably, if you want to send money to Ballmer.

    2. Re:But... by sunwolf · · Score: 1

      There is one - the Windows (Ultimate x64 Ed.) Tax that you will have already paid if you buy the Adamo.

      That alone would stop me from buying it.

  22. oh my god... by paltemalte · · Score: 1

    ...its so... what's the word... ugly! That's the word I was looking for. Is it really so hard to clone apples laptop design, when the apple machines are everywhere out in the open?

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  23. Now the real question by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Who did they ODM this one off of to get this model? I don't believe Dell does any sort of design beyond finding a suitable ODM.

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    1. Re:Now the real question by ambrosen · · Score: 1

      I've got a feeling you're wrong there.

  24. niche market by escay · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Modell (n): thin, fashionable, overpriced and only for those select few of the society whose vision often overlooks function for form.

    this is just bling for the glitterati. like those diamond studded cell phones, they target a niche crowd that can afford to be extravagant. In these days of $300 netbooks (and weighing ~2 lbs), very few regular buyers would plunk down 2G for a laptop; Macbook Air was partly justified in its price point when it came out but it has lost its relevance in today's market, I find it hard to conceive Dell considering this a mainstream product.

    1. Re:niche market by Binkleyz · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure Modell's is a sporting goods store in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic.. :)

  25. About time. by pz · · Score: 1

    I'm glad to see that manufacturers are returning to the form factor that HP / Mitsubishi had in 1998 with the Omnibook Sojourn / Pedion: 0.65 inch thick, 12 inch display, full-sized keyboard, ultra light, decent battery life, fast (for the time) processor, elegant design, full-metal chassis (magnesium, back then), and so forth.

    IMO, it is the perfect form factor, about the size and thickness of a pad of paper.

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  26. So near and yet so far by MosesJones · · Score: 1

    Apart from the obvious flaw "with Vista Ultimate" the basic problem is that Apple are shiny, Apple are cool, Apple are the sort of thing that people buy because its Apple.

    This is basically like K-Mart trying to make a Nike Trainer, sure it looks similar, sure it appears to have similar specs... but you know what, if I'm spending that sort of cash on something I think I'll go for the brand.

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  27. Shoulda asked da Pope, he knows dat latin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's got to right?

  28. Re:Obama? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got modded overrated. Was my comment even rated before you modded me?

  29. Thank You Apple by value_added · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First we had Microsoft making efforts to change the look of their desktop to be something less "ugly" (a characterisation that even Bill Gates used) that took a wrong turn with XP but resulted in something reasonably coherent and possibly attractive in Vista (and its cousin, Vista SP1). Now we have Dell setting aside their traditional look (a make-it-up as-you-go-along aesthetic designed to appeal to one's inner ricer so those cheap-assed plastic/metal boxes with an in-your-face logo would actually sell) for something that actually looks like it was "designed".

    Hell, based on the looks, I'd even consider buying one. Someone would first have to convince me that during assembly, the internals weren't selected from a grab bag of parts taken from a randomly changing supplier list, though.

    So, kudos to Dell. But let's face it: the real credit belongs to Apple who forced everyone to adopt a higher standard.

    1. Re:Thank You Apple by CannonballHead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and thank you Apple for making Dell think they can charge $2000 for it...

    2. Re:Thank You Apple by linhares · · Score: 1

      and thank you Apple for making Dell think they can charge $2000 for it...

      That will be fun to watch!

    3. Re:Thank You Apple by Eil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, kudos to Dell. But let's face it: the real credit belongs to Apple who forced everyone to adopt a higher standard.

      Hmm. If by higher standards you mean aesthetic looks, then sure. But the IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad has always held the lead in durability and overall engineering. Problem is, they never marketed it outside of the business world. If they did, it wouldn't matter anyway because in the consumer market, "looks cool" takes precedence over "works well".

    4. Re:Thank You Apple by Swampash · · Score: 1

      But let's face it: the real credit belongs to Apple who forced everyone to adopt a higher standard.

      Compare.

      Adamo promo video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUJqWc6seYk
      Macbook Air promo video: http://www.apple.com/macbook/the-new-macbook/watch.html#medium

      This message of "a higher standard" has obviously not been heard by the Dell marketing department.

    5. Re:Thank You Apple by lixee · · Score: 1

      Maybe. If you're willing to concede that Apple started that whole "in-your-face logo" crap.

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  30. All your love needs by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Funny

    Adamo. For all your computer love needs. I guess.

    New slogan: "Adamo. There's a port for that."

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    1. Re:All your love needs by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Adamo. For all your computer love needs. I guess.

      New slogan: "Adamo. There's a port for that."

      Adamo. It's like a MacBook Air, but crappier.

      Adamo. Apple's price, Dell's quality.

      Adamo. Because we saw Vista running on a MacBook Air once.

      Adamo. Because "Adammit" probably wouldn't sell well.

      Adamo. If we really knew Latin, we wouldn't be working for Dell now would we?

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    2. Re:All your love needs by somersault · · Score: 5, Funny

      Adamo. Because we heard geeks really dig Battlestar Galactico.

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    3. Re:All your love needs by Eil · · Score: 1

      Adamo. It's like a MacBook Air, but crappier.

      Every single person I know who has seen a MacBook Air in person has said they liked it, but would be too afraid of breaking it if they actually owned one.

      I think this is Dell actually trying to compete on something other than pure sales volume for once.

    4. Re:All your love needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or rather, "There's a port for that?"

    5. Re:All your love needs by pohl · · Score: 1

      How about "Adamo: some cream and a comb'll clear that right up!"

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    6. Re:All your love needs by mochan_s · · Score: 1

      Adamo. It's like a MacBook Air, but crappier. Adamo. Apple's price, Dell's quality. Adamo. Because we saw Vista running on a MacBook Air once. Adamo. Because "Adammit" probably wouldn't sell well. Adamo. If we really knew Latin, we wouldn't be working for Dell now would we?

      Unlike Apple's list price, Dell's list price is not very meaningful as Dell has these sales (up to 30% off routinely and higher sometimes).

      One of the versions of Vista, Vista business is XP. You choose that and they put in XP for you. It costs more though but that's not Dell's fault. It's the best they can do. When I see people using Macbooks, more than half the time they're using XP.

      I think the Dell XPS laptops are pretty good looking. I don't really like the Apple notebooks except for the MacBook Pro. All the others look like eeePC cheap plastic toy laptops. But, MacBook pros are $2000+.

      I think Lenovo completed messed up their Thinkpad brand name. Hopefully, Dell keeps the quality up and I think it'd be nice to have an Adamo.

      The other reason I don't like MacBooks is that it seems that people who use them seem have fallen in love with their laptop. They always want to have it on and in front of them at all times - always claketing around this or that. I hate to be behind someone with a MacBook in class or in a meeting with someone with one. I want to scream put that thing away. Maybe it's the just the people who like to spend a lot of time with on their laptops get Macbooks.

    7. Re:All your love needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also love how they say that it has a centrino processor. THERE'S NO SUCH THING PEOPLE, GET IT STRAIGHT.

      Centrino is a combination of {wireless , chipset, processor, graphics} or some non-trivial subset of those containing the processor and wireless.

    8. Re:All your love needs by dangitman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't really like the Apple notebooks except for the MacBook Pro. All the others look like eeePC cheap plastic toy laptops. But, MacBook pros are $2000+.

      You must have missed the fact that current Macbook models are machined from a solid block of aluminum, just like the Macbook Pros.

      The other reason I don't like MacBooks is that it seems that people who use them seem have fallen in love with their laptop. They always want to have it on and in front of them at all times - always claketing around this or that.

      What a strange thing to say. You don't like a certain model of laptop, because its users seem to enjoy using them? Would you rather buy a model which the users are frustrated with, and don't use very much because they are a hassle?

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    9. Re:All your love needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      New slogan: "Adamo. There's a port for that."

      Did somebody say fu-fme.com?

  31. Nice by ShooterNeo · · Score: 1

    I'd like an Air, but 2 gigs of RAM is grossly inadequate for a computer one intends to keep using for several years. On the other hand, I don't really trust Dell to make hardware to the relatively high standards of Apple...

    1. Re:Nice by GreatDrok · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While I agree that 2GB being non-upgradable in the MacBook Air is an oversight, to be honest 2GB is still a fairly hefty amount of RAM. My old MacBook Pro has 2GB and rarely uses more than half of it under Leopard. In fact, Leopard on my old iBook G4 with 640MB works pretty well so 2GB is plenty for OS X. On the other hand, if you're talking about Vista then 2GB is a bit tight. It is funny when people compare specs between PCs and Macs and don't consider that the difference in performance between OS X and Vista can make a much bigger difference than whether one has 4GB or the other has 2GB.

      I fully expect my MacBook Pro (just coming up to 3 years old) to serve me well for another few years at least before it needs to be replaced. Not one of my PC laptops has ever lasted me more than a year since I am very hard on my machines. As you say, I wouldn't trust Dell to be able to make a machine that can withstand the daily use my laptops get put through.

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    2. Re:Nice by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Interestingly enough I've been using my Intel iMac for exactly two years now on the stock 2GB or ram just fine. And before you all start, I actually DO use Photoshop and Flash and iTunes and Safari and any other ram intensive program you wish to toss into the discussion. And yes, I do actually work with 12megapixel RAW camera files and I do play 3D shooters (in XP mode). 2GB is plenty enough ram for 99% of the users out there (as of Leopard).

    3. Re:Nice by ShooterNeo · · Score: 1

      Hmm. I run an XP x64 box with 4 gigs. Everything just gets so bloated, so fast. These days, firefox alone can gobble up 400 megs of RAM. A game can grab 700 or 1.5 gigs. I just checked Task Manager : I'm also running IE, and it's eating another 400 megs of RAM as well. I have just 1 pdf document open that is 1 page long and nothing but text. 50 megs of RAM. Another 50 to "winword". So I want my next desktop, when I build it in a year or 2, to have at least 12 gigs of RAM, and a laptop needs at least 4.

    4. Re:Nice by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      You can't apply Windows OS logic to a discussion about a MacBook Air memory requirements (unless you are planning on using the Air to run Windows). Just because your XP machine bogs down with 4GB of ram doesn't mean that my Macbook (1st Gen), MacBook (current gen) or iMac (white Intel gen) need more than 2GB.

  32. Up to $2700 for Adamo by BoRegardless · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hey, Apple is the only one who offers "high-priced" laptops.

    What is going on here?

    1. Re:Up to $2700 for Adamo by initialE · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Didn't Sony start first with their VAIO line?

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  33. Does anyone else thing that thing's kinda ugly? by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I mean, I watched the promotional video and frankly the thing doesn't look particularly nice.

    Of course, that might be a reaction to 4+ minutes of being told what a premium product it is, and how people will look at me when I'm using it, which basically made it sound like it's marketed to overpaid IT executives going through a midlife crisis.

    1. Re:Does anyone else thing that thing's kinda ugly? by vonPoonBurGer · · Score: 1

      I didn't even watch the video, just looked at the pictures, and I think it's pretty hideous for something that was supposedly designed to be aesthetically pleasing. You flip it open, and you have this weird squareish bit jutting out the back. You close it, and the top surface of the laptop is disturbed by a fat hinge groove line running across it. Compare that to the MacBook Air, where the design is a true clamshell, no square protrusions at the back, and the hinges are relatively hidden underneath the unit, not apparent from a top view at all.

      Credit to Dell for trying to move beyond the Heinous Grey Box school of design, but it's painfully obvious that they've got a ways to go. Normally I wouldn't care much about the aesthetic considerations since that's not a top concern of mine when buying new kit. However, when you specifically market your products based on their aesthetic merit, you'd better make sure they don't have serious aesthetic flaws.

  34. Oh, and one more thing... by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I forgot to add the one thing the Adamo is missing - Rich Corinthian Leather wristpads. Only then would it be a true union of technology with pleasure.

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    1. Re:Oh, and one more thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      union of technology with pleasure

      I thought that was called "cyberskin".

  35. And people bitch about Apple? by jht · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So it costs more than the Air, but has a crappier chipset. It does have more ports, which is good, and unlike the Air it can hold 4GB of RAM. It's also a little bigger, a little heavier, and it has way less processor in it. Plus it comes with Vista - though it's at least the x64 edition, it still will have that much more in driver compatibility issues as a result, and it's still only a Home edition. For that kind of coin, you'd think they would at least provide Ultimate.

    And how again is this Dell's MacBook Air killer? The best thing I can say about it so far is it's a little better-looking than most Dell laptops. But I think they're going to sell about 3 of these.

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    1. Re:And people bitch about Apple? by dfghjk · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not more expensive than the Air. The Dell comes standard with an SSD which adds $500 to the Air's base cost. It has less processor though.

      Why do you think a notebook that uses proven parts will have driver compatibility problems?

      Dell will sell about 3, just like Apple.

    2. Re:And people bitch about Apple? by sootman · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's a MacBook Air killer because, at 4 pounds, if you drop it on the Air a few times, the Air will probably break first.

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    3. Re:And people bitch about Apple? by jht · · Score: 0

      MacBook Air: $1799 for 1.6 GHz processor with a 120GB SATA drive (1.8" single platter), or $2499 for a 1.86 GHz processor and a 128GB SSD. Both use the nVidia GeForce 9400M chipset/graphics.

      Dell Adamo: $1999 for 1.2 GHz processor, 128GB SSD. With 4GB RAM, 1.4 GHz processor, and an AT&T 3g card - $2699.

      Sure, it's a HDD instead of the SSD in the low-end Air, but both models are faster, both are lighter, and both base configs cost less than the Dells.

      More seriously, I see a decent number of Airs in my clients' offices. Nowhere near as many as other Mac (and Windows) portables, but one client alone has six of them (they use them with Verizon cards on construction sites). They fill a niche quite well - the "ultimate PowerPoint system" where the user well may have another main desktop computer and uses the Air for travel and presentations.

      The Adamo isn't horrible, but it's not too much of an Air-killer - Dell will have their work cut out for them just competing against the Windows subnotes that are even better and have nicer designs.

      When the Adamo was first announced a month or so ago, I remember seeing the pictures on Engadget and saying to myself "not too bad industrial design for a Dell". The "for a Dell" is key.

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    4. Re:And people bitch about Apple? by snowwrestler · · Score: 1

      How do they use Macbook Airs (which have no card slot) with Verizon cards?

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    5. Re:And people bitch about Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how again is this Dell's MacBook Air killer?

      Why again does every new product have to be a "killer" of its competition? This all or nothing attitude is tiring.

    6. Re:And people bitch about Apple? by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      They fill a niche quite well - the "ultimate PowerPoint system"

      Until they figure out that Keynote is only about 200 times better than the best version of PowerPoint ever hopes to be.

    7. Re:And people bitch about Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you read the post it comes with Vista Ultimate x64. so yes for that coin they did provide Ultimate.

    8. Re:And people bitch about Apple? by jht · · Score: 1

      The little USB ones. I've got one, too. Hardly sticks out from the laptop.

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    9. Re:And people bitch about Apple? by snowwrestler · · Score: 1

      Ah, thanks, I forgot about those. The word "card" threw me off I guess.

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  36. Re:I know I'm just feeding the trolls, but... by kurt555gs · · Score: 2, Funny

    I read your comment "I had no idea that some people would go to such lengths to generate something that is just such a completely and utterly useless, pointless waste of space and time." and thought it was spot on to describe the Adamo.

    Cheers

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  37. saw the same video... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...when Apple was releasing their latest 15in macbooks. Even with the European guy that is hard to understand. Same focus on machined aluminum and how stylish it is. However Apple also stated how 'green' its production was and the new feature with the touchpad mouse.

    FYI-After having been given the new macbook for work(I didn't pay for it), I will admit they are nice machines but I have yet to pick up any women. For some reason I don't expect this machine to be any different.

  38. MAC Address by pgn674 · · Score: 1

    Looking at the back view picture, it looks like the holes could be interpreted as code. Each column is a nibble, with the low end bits being on top. A hole is a 1, and no hole is a 0.

    So, on the right side, starting with the fist hole and going right, you get 2014A14B6BDF, and it just repeats with F's. This happens to be 12 nibbles, the size of a MAC Address. I looked this up for the associated vendor, but there is none.

    Anyways, it'd be cool and rather geeky to have the MAC Address of the notebook's ethernet card (rather than wireless card, which may be a security concern) encoded in the holes on the back. It wouldn't be like a fading effect any more, but it'd be oh-so geeky.

    1. Re:MAC Address by ozphx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Then you'd have the joys of fabricating individual cases, and matching them up / flashing the ethernet card :/

      Sounds like a massive pain in the ass, and probably $100 per unit for something that only 0.01% of customers would find cool.

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    2. Re:MAC Address by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Are you for real? Christ, and I thought I had too much free time.

    3. Re:MAC Address by obscuro · · Score: 1

      Then you'd have the joys of fabricating individual cases, and matching them up / flashing the ethernet card :/

      Yes!! And a rationale for charging two and a half grand for the base model.

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    4. Re:MAC Address by ozphx · · Score: 1

      Yes!! And a rationale for charging two and a half grand for the base model.

      $750 per unit to spend on blow & hookers isn't enough of a good reason for charging $2.5k?

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    5. Re:MAC Address by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > starting with the fist hole

      I think you just revealed more than you probably wanted to. :-)

  39. This is Dell you're talking about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The version without vista will more likely be around $2499.99 :)

  40. copy and paste by fermion · · Score: 1, Insightful
    So we have a knockoff of a fashion product. The thing is that most knock offs costs a fraction of the price. In fact fashion knocks off often costs just a bit more than a regular product. In this case a MacBook Air at 1.87Ghz is $2500, while the slower dell is $2000.

    I hardly see how this competes with the Mac Air. The average thickness is greater. It is slower, and only comes with the home software. Unless you are willing to pay more than a Macbook Air, you will have to live with a very slow machine that does not have enough memory for Vista. For the machine that works, the cost is $2700. Of course some will say how wonderful all the extra ports are, and the built in mobile broad band is a plus.

    But really, how much extra is one going to pay for a Dell. For Apple the markup is ok. Everyone expects to pay extra for an Apple. But for a dell?

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    1. Re:copy and paste by ozphx · · Score: 1

      Yeah I always considered the competition to the Air to be the Lenovo X series. Typical IBM styling (ugly as fuck), but a similar size. Also you can spec that baby out to like $5k worth of all kinds of goodness, and actually have a serious machine. Internal optical drive as well.

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    2. Re:copy and paste by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      Average thickness? Is that the new way to lie about an Apple product? The Air's profile shows that averaging the thickest and thinnest dimensions tells you nothing interesting.

      Since when is 2GB, non-upgradable, good enough for the Air running OS X (or Windows) while the Dell requires 4GB? Sounds like BS to me. Considering Apple's claim that the Air is intended as second computer (meaning it's performance sucks too bad for anything serious) I don't really see the problem with 1.2 or 1.4 GHz. Personally, I don't want either of them.

      Not all fashion knockoffs are cheap. Don't forget to add $500 for the Apple SSD upgrade when comparing to Dell.

  41. Not even Sony would try this by erroneus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Lately, I have been seeing TV commercials from Dell that say, using imagery, "stand in line to buy this and you will come out groovy and cool." Perhaps they are attempting to take a page from Apple's play-book, but the problem is that Apple's established image and Dell's established image are very different. You don't just pop up out of nowhere and say "hey! suddenly we're cool hipsters!" If Dell wants to become that, they will have to evolve their image, not manufacture it. And there has to be a LOT (and I mean excessively) of good will directed at the consumer before they will buy into it.

    Dell is best known for business machines. What's more, Dell is nearly anti-consumer in that the care offered to consumers is a LOT less than care offered to businesses. They need to reverse this condition before people will ever think of Dell as anything else.

    I have some ideas I hope Dell takes to heart, but they don't listen to people like me. But if Dell wants to REALLY get into the eye-candy end of things, offer up and electronic ink display on the back of the display that can be customized by the user. And with the interesting legal progress being made by the Mac-clone people, Dell ought to be preparing to blast out a Mac compatible of their own. Sure, don't market it that way... just put whatever is needed to make it Mac compatible in the machine and let hackers out there figure out the rest. (The Dell Mini9 is rather popular with people into Hackintoshes)

    There are a lot of ways Dell could become what they seek to be, but simply jumping right out into the middle and saying "HEY! LOOK AT ME!" ain't gonna do it.

    1. Re:Not even Sony would try this by WiiVault · · Score: 1

      Good point, I noticed the same thing a few weeks ago when I saw my first "colored" Dell laptop ad. It made me laugh because while there is nothing wrong with colored computers they kept making the point that owning one made you unique, so much so that everybody in the street was staring at the dude. As if nobody had ever thought of this before. To me however it just looked like any other Dell with a red paint job.

    2. Re:Not even Sony would try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But if Dell wants to REALLY get into the eye-candy end of things, offer up and electronic ink display on the back of the display that can be customized by the user.

      Ok, I'll bite. Why an e-ink display on the back? As near as I can tell, black-and-white or color, if made today you would have something that at best looked a little washed out.

      If you wanted to let the user customize their machine, you would be better off letting the user design their own 'skin' online and mail them a much cheaper sticker to put on the device ($0.50 + postage v.s. cost of e-ink display).

    3. Re:Not even Sony would try this by downhole · · Score: 1

      I haven't paid too much attention to the mac clone stuff, but I got the impression that most of it was being done by small companies who didn't have any investment in anything else, so that if they lose a lawsuit from Apple, they don't have much else to go after. Now if Dell didn't make it an actual, marketed Mac clone, then it isn't going to go anywhere with anyone but hacker types who won't number enough to be worth designing a computer for. And they wouldn't market it as a mac clone because they have too much to lose in a lawsuit. So, sounds like a no-go.

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    4. Re:Not even Sony would try this by zootread · · Score: 1

      Lately, I have been seeing TV commercials from Dell that say, using imagery, "stand in line to buy this and you will come out groovy and cool." Perhaps they are attempting to take a page from Apple's play-book, but the problem is that Apple's established image and Dell's established image are very different. You don't just pop up out of nowhere and say "hey! suddenly we're cool hipsters!"

      What are you talking about? Dell's always been cool. Don't you remember "duuuuude, you're so high, you're getting a Dell"

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    5. Re:Not even Sony would try this by erroneus · · Score: 1

      eInk is write it and it stays. I don't know how vivid it could be made to look, but I suspect some sort of back lighting might improve its appearance. But the idea, as you wrote, is do that people can make their own skin... and change it as often as they like.

    6. Re:Not even Sony would try this by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Dell tries to pull this shit all the time. Problem is, it's middle-aged marketing people who couldn't get a job at a decent agency, trying to read youth culture. That's why it results in things like this, and the "Dud you're getting a Dell!" guy, which are just so out of touch with the zeitgeist. They're only a few brainstorming sessions away from coming up with Poochy the rapping cartoon dog with "attitude."

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    7. Re:Not even Sony would try this by pyrrhonist · · Score: 1
      If it's the commercial I think you're thinking of, they weren't staring at him because the computer looked unique. They were staring at him, because the red color means he bought a (Product)^RED notebook:

      Dell has released three computers (M1330, M1530 and XPS One) and one printer (V505 All-In-One) that are Product Red; the contract will last for 3 years as of Jan 2008.

      A percentage of the profit from (Product)^RED products is given to the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria. In other words, they were staring and cheering, because they noticed his compassion. This also better explains why the woman in the commercial kisses him.

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    8. Re:Not even Sony would try this by WiiVault · · Score: 1

      Good to know, now that you said it I think you are right. Thanks for the correction.

    9. Re:Not even Sony would try this by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      I doubt many people in your "youth culture" scenario have the cash to buy a MacBook Air. I think the Air is targeted more at guys like me (39, in the design industry, lots of money to throw around on frivolous consumer electronics, etc.) With that disclosure, I have to admit I couldn't justify the cost of the Air so I bought a new silver MacBook . More computer for less money and still a really nice fit and finish and industrial design.

    10. Re:Not even Sony would try this by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

      You don't just pop up out of nowhere and say "hey! suddenly we're cool hipsters!" If Dell wants to become that, they will have to evolve their image, not manufacture it.

      All artists pay their dues. Trying to skip this means no respect. And anyone who tries not paying their dues shows that they're not ready to be taken seriously. So, if Dell can keep at the "cool item" game, start engaging customers and listening to their feedback, and take the time at building a real design team, in five to ten years, they might have a "cool" product that's taken seriously.

      However, I expect pigs to fly sooner than Dell's corporate overlords to allow its R&D to stay at this for more than an occasional abortion of a model along the way. I know people who've worked at Dell. They don't think that way.

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  42. Boring office laptop. by miffo.swe · · Score: 1

    Once you turn your Adamo on your qickly back in the office staring at the same screen youre used to. Apple has software thats cool but all Dell has is Windows. Despite all the efforts by MS Vista is still just XP with some spitshine ontop. Until Dell can do something different with the software they will never be able to compete with apple.

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  43. Optical drive interface by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

    So if you're going to need to boot a Linux Live DVD on it, are you going to need an eSATA optical drive, or can it boot from a USB drive?

    Are there Vista drivers for using another Mac's optical drive wirelessly, or just drivers for a Mac to use a Windows system's optical drive?

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    1. Re:Optical drive interface by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      are you going to need an eSATA optical drive

      Or should I have said eSATAPI?

      Strange moniker that, seeing as an IBM Personal Computer/AT had no such attachment.

      (eSATAPI == external Serial (IBM (International Business Machines Corporation) Personal Computer/)AT (Advanced Technology) Attachment Packet Interface)

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  44. Oblig. Python by Bearhouse · · Score: 1

    It means Romans go home!

    One of the best parts of the 'Life of Brian' IMHO

    1. Re:Oblig. Python by damburger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Especially if you did learn Latin at school... they nailed the British-public-school-latin-master perfectly. "HOW many Romans?"

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    2. Re:Oblig. Python by Toshibi · · Score: 1

      Our Latin teacher used that one scene to justify us watching Life of Brian in class. We got two days of Python and no work mid semester.

  45. Wrong info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Adamo, pronounced 'A-dahm-o,' means 'to fall in love with' in Latin.

    Actually, since this is a Latin word, it would be pronounced more like "ah-DAH-mo", with the emphasis on the second syllable and a softer 'a' sound.

    And before anyone jumps on me for that, make sure you learned real Latin and not the crap the Catholics use, it's not the same.

    1. Re:Wrong info by KylePflug · · Score: 1

      Amen, reverend.

    2. Re:Wrong info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Priest of Jupiter

  46. I must be the wrong market element. by gknoy · · Score: 1

    While I appreciate that there are those who want Portable Power (and nice form), I am really looking forward to the ARM-based laptops, such as the ~$200 one that Pegatron was talking about back in January. Why would I need a laptop like the Adamo? O_o

    Perhaps if I were a constant traveling computer-user... doing some sort of heavy computing?

  47. adamare = to covet .... not! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not to pick nits over their use of Latin, but adamo is basically never used in that form in Classical Latin, and I've never seen it used that way in Medieval Latin either. Anyways, the infinitive would be adamare, but what the hell. On top of it, as a professional developer who uses a Macbook Air as my main development box (do a lot of embedded development, and one USB port is all I need it turns out), this box just doesn't meet my pretentious latte drinking needs. I mean, look at the fucking piece of shit's screen hinge! When I program in my boxers or in the nude I'm likely to singe my nads or get pubes stuck in those tiny holes! For Shame Dell, for shame! Nonne werpa inter column est?

  48. What I don't understand... by ChrisMounce · · Score: 1

    Why don't they just completely rip off the MacBook Air, to the extent that they can do so while avoiding legal trouble?

    If you're offering obvious competition for the Air, and your design skills aren't as good as Apple's, you might as well just copy their design. It would be blatant competition, but it would be anyway.

  49. Late to the party and underwhelming... by Shivetya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Using Intel's 4500 series? OK, so graphics are not its forte.

    It actually cost more than the Air and gives less power? Processor speeds are lackluster as well.

    You just have to hate Apple to buy this over the Air. I am not a fanboi of Apple, I do have an iMac (7600gt variety) and a Touch, but damn I always thought Apple notebooks overpriced cases with average internals...

    So what happened? What are they truly aiming at? This new laptop of theirs is practically a sales pitch for the Air.

    Now, if it started at 1299 then it might be worth looking at...

    Sorry, but I really don't understand how this shipped at its price point, especially with such a weak feature set compared to its obvious competition. Slower processors, 1/3rd the speed in graphics, oh I will just stop there.

    Oh, Blu-Ray, well it has something at least I cannot do on an Apple...

    Great, I am going to have to check myself in at Apple's Fanboi Anonymous group after posting this.

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    1. Re:Late to the party and underwhelming... by Kuciwalker · · Score: 2, Informative

      It costs more than the Air... until you realize it comes with an SSD standard. That's what got my attention.

  50. Dell makes a by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    thin, nice stylish laptop, and it's expensive.

    Remember that next time you whine about Apples prices.

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    1. Re:Dell makes a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, just as soon as Apple makes a laptop that is not expensive....as in 99% of the laptops Dell sells.

      Show us a $500-$700 (the magic price point for most the market) Apple notebook that isn't used or something and the complaints will stop...

  51. Nugget alert by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's ADMIRAL Adamo to you, nugget.

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    1. Re:Nugget alert by Plug · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nonsense. We all know a Dell Adama would have no networking.

  52. joking aside .. by koutbo6 · · Score: 1

    will it run linux?
    I can't seem to find any information on that

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    1. Re:joking aside .. by Patch86 · · Score: 1

      Probably. If it runs Vista 64 it must be running a x86-64 processor of some sort, which Linux has no problem with. Linux also tends to have decent compatibility with the Dell proprietary shit, so all should be well.

  53. What an expensive fatso date! by rinoid · · Score: 1

    Wow, not only does the infomercial go SPLAT!

    This thing is heeeeaaaaaavvvy at 4lbs (I thought @4lbs they included the DVD combo drive) and sort of starts with a high price compared to the $1799.00 MacBook Air which weighs in at a svelte 3lbs.

    Apple FTW!

  54. Get a Thinkpad then. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    ...at least your expense will be worth something, can run OSX and has the optical drive included.

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  55. A Marketing Plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Name this thing Adama, put it on sale on Friday and you've got yourself a geek tie in of epic proportions.

  56. They missed the Macbook Air's one quality by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

    Macbook Air is half concept machine with smaller and weaker CPU while it is not clearly a Netbook.

    What Apple trusts while designing, shipping air is this: 0.01 CPU load while idling. A massively optimised system that won't even run on non SSE CPUs. Zero tolerance to old/depreciated frameworks, even Apple Finder gets a slap from OS X saying "This functionality is depreciated".

    It is the OS and people know how OS X works so they buy Macbook Air. It is not just (or even) Logo. Sony had/have way better machines than Apple regarding hardware and features but they run Windows along with all the 3rd party crap they added.

    I guess Dell wasted their money.

    1. Re:They missed the Macbook Air's one quality by rinoid · · Score: 1

      You think the Air has a weaker CPU?

      The Adama :
      CPU:
      IntelCore2 DuoSU9300
      (1.2GHz/800MHz FSB/2M L2 Cache)

      GPU:
      Intel Mobile 965 Express

      ----
      The Air:
      CPU:
      1.6GHz or 1.86GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 6MB on-chip shared L2 cache running 1:1 with processor speed

      GPU:
      NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory

      ----
      That adama website is god awful. They fail at elegance all over from the brown corduroy bespoke bald white man (hey, i'm bald too but gosh this guy looked thuggish) in the weird apartment setting to this web site that has images moving all the time and no decent product shots to really get the feel of the "elegance".

    2. Re:They missed the Macbook Air's one quality by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      Wow, speaking of millions of dollars wasted than. I couldn't think that Dell could dare to ship even a weaker CPU with Vista 64 on a $2k laptop.

    3. Re:They missed the Macbook Air's one quality by ameyer17 · · Score: 1

      For what it's worth,

      GPU:
      Intel Mobile 965 Express

      is wrong.
      The Adamo uses Intel's GS45 chipset, which has an integrated "Mobile Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 4500MHD"

  57. Apple, the masters of lock-in. by sethstorm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple is still the only computer maker that understands the value of integrated hardware and software design. No piecemeal computer kit thrown together by others will ever quite match the integrated holistic approach of Apple products.

    You could have said that Apple has mastered lock-in while appearing to be open.

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    1. Re:Apple, the masters of lock-in. by intheshelter · · Score: 1

      Except, you know, you're not ACTUALLY locked in. But aside from that I agree with your point.

  58. Adamo Website by da8add1e · · Score: 1

    thought it might possibly be useful to see the actual website for the product http://www.adamobydell.co.uk/

  59. It's the software, stupid. by argent · · Score: 1

    If the Macbook Air ran Windows, it wouldn't sell enough to pay for the design work... let alone the actual hardware.

    It's the software, Stupid. Dell: you want some of Apple's margins? Get your fecal matter conglomerated and put OS X on your hardware. If you can't beg, buy, or borrow, then hire some people with clue and WRITE the equivalent. Use GNUstep, and maybe you'll even be able to finagle software compatibility with OS X as well. But you can't fold, spindle, or mutilate hardware and produce a Mac, because it's not the hardware that makes it a Mac. ESPECIALLY not the hardware. :(

  60. I find i higly amusing by drolli · · Score: 1

    that Apple subnotebooks (alo applies to smartphones) seem to be the absolute standard, even on slashdot. IBM/Lenovo, Toshiba and Sony have/had always an broad range of small form-factors available (especially at $1999) which are beaten by the macbook Air only if you accept tho measure the "thickness" of a triangle

  61. y'all by vajorie · · Score: 1

    y'all have too much money.

  62. It looks really nice, but ... by glebovitz · · Score: 1

    I hope it comes with better customer service than Dell'snormal 1-800-stick-pins-in-my-eyeballs-and-make-me-cry.

    Apple seems to understand the relationship between premium products and good customer support.

  63. Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop butchering Latin. It's already dead.

    adamo

  64. But with Vista, it is just an aluminum brick by DougReed · · Score: 1

    The Apple is, after all, a good piece of hardware with good software. They should ship this with a real operating system. I simply will not purchase ANYTHING running Vista period. They might just as well put MS-DOS on it.

  65. I cared, right until I read... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ......starts at $1,999 with Vista Ultimate 64."

    How do you say nowadays: FAIL

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  66. Aesthetics.. by imhennessy · · Score: 1

    I actually think it looks better than most macs. but I'm not in the market for any notebooks right now, never mind a two grand status symbol.

    ivan

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  67. AirBook owner is confused by davebarnes · · Score: 2, Informative

    We (my small, 2-person business) sold our our MacBook to buy an AirBook.
    Just for travel.
    Weight, for us, was/is really important.

    I really like the appearance of the new DELL Adamo.
    But:
    1. 1 pound (.45Kg) heavier! Not what I seek in a travel computer.
    2. More money. Oh, I know it has a SSD, but who cares? A regular, old-fashioned, spinning disk is "good enough" for me.
    3. Slower CPU! Slower than my slow AirBook is just not acceptable.

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  68. South Park? by mnslinky · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's a bit of a reach, but as soon as I saw mention of Adamo, I though Awesom-O. They should absolutely run Cartman as their spokesman for this...

    For those not in the know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWESOM-O

    Here's a legit pic (NFW): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/802_image_14.jpg

  69. Meh by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

    It's just a standard laptop but without hard disk nor optical drive.

    All laptops could be lighter, and substantially thinner, if they dumped these basic internal components.

    I, for one, don't need 128GB of internal storage. Other networked devices or USB2 external drives can serve that purpose.

    Hopefully these models will dramatically drive down the price of internal SSD for the average consumer, e.g. for netbooks.

    For the person that uses their computer's optical drive sparingly, why not? Hopefully 'netbook' makers will corner this market too, so that Dell and Apple can't charge extortionate prices for something that basically amounts to just removing the standard drives. I'd be content with 32GB, though I don't run Vista or OS X!

  70. I'm still waiting for my mini9.... by Composite_Armor · · Score: 1

    that i bought online on boxing day.

    jerks.
    don't buy dell.

  71. This Makes Me Really Want... by obscuro · · Score: 1

    ...a whitebox laptop parts manufacturer to build some really nice machined aluminum cases. It would be extra cool if you could send them a pattern to acid-etch onto the case. What else does this thing offer? It looks like the "edge to edge" monitor has 2/3s of an inch of black on 3 sides! MacBook Airs aren't the greatest specs but they do feel like kind of a miracle when you pick them up and use them. Its the super smooth featureless surface thing. Adamo looks really nice but it's price point and default to Vista just makes me wonder whether there's a planet of fashionistas somewhere that has never heard of a Mac.

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  72. Yes it is.

  73. I recognize the spokesman by snowwrestler · · Score: 1

    Well at least now we know what Hank Paulson is doing with his free time.

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  74. anyone else notice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone else notice the ram, while DDR3, is only 800mhz? What about the 1066mhz of the DDR3 apple uses? Is there even an advantage to DDR3 over DDR2 at 800mhz?

    1. Re:anyone else notice? by ameyer17 · · Score: 1

      Is there even an advantage to DDR3 over DDR2

      Not really, unless you're running one of Intel's new Core i7 processors that don't work with DDR2.

  75. A focus on function by snowwrestler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For all the joking about how Apple is for effete fashion victims, the biggest difference I noticed from the Dell video is that the Apple video focuses almost entirely on functional design. In the Apple video, they don't say they use aluminum because it's sexy, they say it's used to provide rigidity for light weight. Instead of a fancy apartment we see industrial manufacturing. There's no spokesmodel (all the speakers are staff/management at Apple), and the only model is seen only for a few seconds at the end. There's no talk of fashion or aphrodisiac or etched patterns for looks.

    I think Dell is totally misreading the market if they think there is going to a big demand for the Adamo based just on how hot and fashionable it looks. That's especially true now...I think conspicuous consumption went out as a life goal for most people about 6 months ago. And even if people are willing to spend that much on a notebook, the way to get to their pocketbooks is to focus on the high-end quality of the product. It's the same reason people buy $450 Gore-Tex coats to walk their dog, or $55,000 SUVs to drive the kids to school.

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    1. Re:A focus on function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I *DO* live on the top of the rocky mountains, you insensitive clod!

    2. Re:A focus on function by claytonjr · · Score: 1

      Dell == trend-whoring

    3. Re:A focus on function by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Apple video focuses almost entirely on functional design.

      This has been almost universally the case with Apple products since Jobs and Ives reinvented Apple. One could say it's their corporate mantra/identity. That why I easily dismiss people who post "teh shiny!" or "fashion statement" in regards to iPods, Macs or iPhones.

    4. Re:A focus on function by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 1

      Oh I wouldn't say that's entirely true. Remember the fruit imacs? They were good machines to work on, and they were functional but they were marketed as "fun", there's a commercial here. The ibook commercial is only slightly better as it flashed some adjectives for desirable qualities up on the screen. Fortunately for Apple, their marketing department was a little smarter and didn't feel the need to state that their product was sexy, they just relied on old-fashioned association of their product with good music and pretty colors.

      If we assume that Dell isn't completely insane, we're forced to conclude that perhaps there is a market of people out there who want a thin, expensive laptop, but refuse to buy an Apple and perhaps have no personal taste so need to be told what's fashionable. Or perhaps Dell fucked up and the girlfriend/mistress of one of the top executives run the marketing campaign instead of somebody competent.

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    5. Re:A focus on function by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      I guess you took "focuses on" as meaning "markets" where I took it to mean "produces". So while apple is "focusing" on the marketing of cool, hip products, using pop-culture music and colors, they are also "focusing" on functional design (given the track record of their products, minus the hockey-puck mouse and a few other indiscretions).

    6. Re:A focus on function by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's true. But I usually consider them to be inseparable with Apple: they do seem to achieved a pretty good union of quality products and excellent marketing/aesthetic design. For the record though, I used the hockey-puck mouse for about a year and it didn't mangle my hand or anything, but I switched to a logitech as soon as they announced scroll wheel support.

      Incidentally, I wonder who actually has the longest average useful lifetime for their laptops? My guess is probably either apple or lenovo, probably lenovo.

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    7. Re:A focus on function by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      I would suggest that the OS is probably the biggest determining factor for measuring lifetime, unless you are counting "battery life". I'm still using OSX.3 on my 1999 G4 Mac tower with no problems. I can't say the same thing for my 4 year old Pentium IV and WinXP though. Not that desktops and laptops are totally comparable, but there is a bit of a track record. People generally tend to go out and buy a new PC when they just give up on their old one because it's acting weird or whatever. Apple customers tend to be enticed to go out and buy new computers, even if they don't need to replace an old one yet...probably explains my small collection of Macs around the house.

    8. Re:A focus on function by nine-times · · Score: 1

      For all the joking about how Apple is for effete fashion victims, the biggest difference I noticed from the Dell video is that the Apple video focuses almost entirely on functional design.

      Well yeah, but part of the thing is if you want to be cool and trendy, you don't walk around saying, "Hey everyone, I'm cool and trendy!"

      I don't doubt that Apple was trying to make the Macbook look cool, sexy, or whatever else in their video. The difference is largely that they aren't so stupid as to try to do that by sitting someone down in front of a camera and saying "We're making this video to convince you that the new Macbook is cool and sexy and will make you more powerful."

    9. Re:A focus on function by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      I think conspicuous consumption went out as a life goal for most people about 6 months ago.

      For now. Don't worry, it will be back as soon as the money is there.

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    10. Re:A focus on function by usman_ismail · · Score: 1

      Advertising skills aside does any one else think its ugly. The screen does not hinge at the edge and the back side of the screen has two textures and the fan holes. It has too much going on in the design. I mean the mac book air has a shit load of flaws but by god its pretty.

    11. Re:A focus on function by poulbailey · · Score: 1

      Instead of a fancy apartment we see industrial manufacturing

      The funny thing is that the apartment probably isn't even there. The scenes look like they were shot against a green screen (and badly at that). Look at the woman's pixelated hair. Pretty mediocre craftsmanship, I'd say.

  76. Vista. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pricing starts at $1,999 with Vista Ultimate 64.

    Everything about it sounded so wonderful until the admission of this terrible crime, and I'm not talking about the price.

  77. Last time, pointless by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every time a sealed device (iPhone, Air) comes up someone likes you brings up the external battery.

    Such a pointless question though. Who cares when an external power pack the a laptop can run from takes the same amount of space as the spare battery would have? The ONLY time you ever need one of these things is really long air travel, when you're in steerage without a plug. Even when traveling in the deepest heart of Africa I didn't need a spare battery because I just charged off the car we were traveling with (and yes in fact I did need a laptop it was not just some electronic toy I could not live without).

    As for replacing it, since you do that once every few years I can't see that as a serious concern.

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    1. Re:Last time, pointless by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1, Insightful

      As for replacing it, since you do that once every few years I can't see that as a serious concern.

      Let me get this straight: during the lifetime of your device, something will happen that will make it substantially less useful unless you change the battery. And you don't see this as a serious concern. And the reason you don't see it as a serious concern is that your device will only be made much less useful once or twice...

      If you car's gas tank capacity would get reduced to $[amount of gas that lets you drive a mile] every five years of use, you wouldn't worry about it because it'll only happen once or twice during your use of the car?

      There must be something I'm misunderstanding here...

    2. Re:Last time, pointless by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

      Even so, your car is likely to spend more time at the mechanic's over its lifetime than your laptop will spend at the shop getting its battery replaced, even if all you need is regular servicing and MOTs.

      On top of that, my car has had both driveshafts replaced on separate occasions, plus two exhaust replacements, which I wouldn't consider user-serviceable parts.

    3. Re:Last time, pointless by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Let me get this straight: during the lifetime of your device, something will happen that will make it substantially less useful unless you change the battery.

      You say "will". But I have NEVER had that happen, where an external power pack the same size as a second battery would not have served just as well. With any laptop I have owned, now in decades.

      And the reason you don't see it as a serious concern is that your device will only be made much less useful once or twice...

      So you are talking only about battery replacement. But in the case of the Apple products, you go into the store and get a loaner or have the replace it right there OR just replace it yourself (in the case of any of the "sealed" laptops). And that's only IF you need a replacement. In theory the new laptops batteries will probably last longer than you will use the laptop, and I've not yet needed a new battery for my original iPhone...

      It's way more likley that your device will become unavailaible due to something else going wrong, than actually having to replace the battery.

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  78. They got the wrong designer for the video by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I just watched the video, and between the rocking (probably why the focus was shot) and monochromatic delivery I kept expecting him to say "I'm an excellent designer" in a Hoffman voice.

    I wouldn't fare any better either, which is why I'm not in front of a camera... screen the technical people before you let the world see them.

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  79. Ye gods, I spoke too soon... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I forgot to add the one thing the Adamo is missing - Rich Corinthian Leather

    From the video link others have posted, at 2:18:

    "When you see metal, it's real metal, when you see leather, it's real leather".

    !

    Looking at the case, I can't see leather anywhere - which means it is INSIDE. Wow man, that is premium.

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  80. Re:It'd probably run great if apple would allow it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How are they stopping you?
    There is a veritable industry getting OSX to run on generic hardware. As long as you don't actually market a box with OSX installed you won't hear from Apple.

  81. the macbook is now ultraportable! by solsang · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When you include dells one pound gold brick power supply, the adamo is 5 pounds, equal to a normal macbook including power For $2500 the macbook has 2.4ghz with 4gb ram, dvd drive and 256gb ssd harddrive plus osx, backlit display, magsafe and isight Tell me again why i should use dell trying vista 64 without graphics card?

  82. Re:Obama? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your username is retarded and your comment was atrocious. The punishment fits the crime. That's the sort of dumb shit you post anonymously like I'm doing here.

  83. Heaviers than Air by eguaj · · Score: 1

    Nah! Heaviers than Air can't work!

  84. HA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'll also receive 24/7 access to Dell's best trained technicians ...

    yeah. woohoo

  85. No Quad-Core? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Intel Q9000 has about the same TDP as my Core 2 Duo, this is a super-expensive machine, and they're not even offering a Quad-Core? They really are copying Apple! (Where's my fucking Quad-Core MBP, Apple? You really DON'T want to sell laptops to the competent, do you?)

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  86. Important distinction by snowwrestler · · Score: 1

    I'm not saying that Apple, as a company, focuses solely on functional design. In addition to function, it's pretty obvious and well-known that they really, really care how their products look and are positioned in the marketplace. Steve Jobs recently canceled a new Apple store in New York because he did not like the neighborhood for instance.

    They're just not stupid enough to make that the focus of their marketing videos.

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    1. Re:Important distinction by stewbacca · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I understand your position. What I don't understand is there seems to be a false dichotomy with the anti-apple crowd. Making good stuff and marketing it well are not mutually exclusive. Just because Dell isn't good at marketing, doesn't mean their computers aren't any good, and just because Apple's marketing IS good, doesn't mean they don't make a good product. It's so freakin' cynical around these parts, I tell ya.

  87. And it has the "lovely" dell logo. by gizmo2199 · · Score: 1

    They're trying to create a high-end design for the aesthetically conscious, but stamp what
    has to be the most uninspired corporate logo of the last 50 years on their product, in
    stainless steel no less. I'd rather by a netbook from maytag, if they made one.

    How narcissistic do you have to be? You're going to name the company after yourself
    and the logo is your last name, but the 'E' is rotated a few degrees.

    What graphic design genius came up with that?

    And it runs Vista!

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  88. ebrpd18 by ebrpd18 · · Score: 1

    Only Dell could miss the boat like this. Apple products are popular and taking increasing market share because they work. Yeah, they're elegant and beautifully designed, but, most of all, they free us from the tyranny of broken Microsoft software. Dell doesn't get it, and, as others have posted here, empty style doesn't sell these days. We've had several pieces of Dell hardware and it's crap, so now they have a crappy laptop that looks sort of cool. Great.

  89. I am thinking of a different word by dilvish_the_damned · · Score: 1

    After having just watched a Colbert Report talking about meat grown in a pitri dish, and after hearing people comparing this to the MBA, the word that comes to mind is "shmaptop".

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  90. Useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the long term you'll gain the same weight again or even more.

  91. This comment is the best! by multimediavt · · Score: 1

    From the comments on the article that's linked from the OP:

    By rox0r on Mar 17, 2009
    I'm confused. Does anyone remember what the percentage of solid state the drive was?

    I can't remember if they said it was 90% or 100% solid state drive. Because i'm not getting it if it is under 75% solid state.

    I mean, SRSLY, why go to all the work machining the aluminum if the drive is going to be anything less than 100% solid state?

    LOL! What does a 90% solid state drive look like anyway? I hope it was a joke post because it sure did make snot fly out my nose when I read it and laughed!

  92. This is no Macbook Air by countach · · Score: 1

    How is this comparable to a Macbook Air? It weighs nearly half a kilo more which means it is closer to a Macbook than a Macbook Air. Oh, and it costs more than either a Macbook or Macbook Air. OK, it's pretty, but even by being copy cats Dell hasn't really got into the same league as Apple. Even if I wanted to run Windows I'd rather pick up one of the Apples.

  93. Why bother with either the Air or the Adamo by gnaP · · Score: 1
    -->DDR3 vs. DDR2

    There is a reason they are using DDR3 SODIMMS over DDR2 SODIMMs, DDR3 uses less power consumption which means less heat, greater battery life and longer life of the part. Hot IC's are more likely to fail sooner then cooler parts, look at high performance RAM and "normal" RAM. You'll see that most of the time the IC's on the performance RAM modules are overclocked and require better cooling to get the same life from them as the none overclocked without cooling solutions on them.

    -->Amount of RAM

    Yeah sure 2Gb of RAM is plenty for most out there but with the price of RAM dropping each time a new manufacturing process comes out to make the IC's small price drops, and does having more RAM and being able to increase the RAM after purchase a bad thing? Not at all, its a good thing in fact

    -->The IGP cores

    Intel is lacking here but how many have the money here for a thin Blu-Ray disk player to watch there HD movies or even play a half decent game on there MacBook Airs? If you do game on your MacBook Air or ultra portables your using the wrong platform. Ultra portables are meant to last as long as possible in the smallest foot print possible.

    -->Processors

    Dell could do better here yes but again it comes to heat output and battery life under RL usage and lower speed the CPU the less heat and longer your battery is going to last. Want to do CS3 or CS4 get a larger 15" inch if you want to do that work.

    -->HDD Drive Options. Well duh the Dell will cost more the MacBook Air?! It has a 128GB SSD as standard while the Air uses a standard rotating media based HDD unless your get the better unit.

    -->Thickness

    Thinner your notebook the less options you are going to have for a good cooling solution, or if you can make a good cooling solution for the size its going to be expensive. And even then surface area counts, more surface are the more area for heat to be radiated from the cooling solution. Who cares if it can fit in a envelop? I want to know how cool it will be under a moderate amount of usage. And don't tell me the frame is a huge heat sink because its aluminum, because do you want a hot piece of monolithic aluminum sending that heat into your thighs? I don't

    -->Reliability

    Well since we know Apple does not make there own parts anymore and outsource all there motherboards from one of thee manufactures reliability is about the same when it comes to how well made those motherboards are. Dell probably buys from the very same supplier as Apple does, only difference is the layout of the motherboard to fit the case they want it in. So t would be safe to say Apples die as often as a Dell, Asus, MSI and HP.

    And now for my thought of the Dell fashion notebook, I don't really care and I think Dell does not really care either as they cater to business for the most part that don't care if its pretty. Its a nitch market for them and nothing more since there are more profitable markets where they are firmly entrenched. This Adamo is like a little pet project they did on the side.

  94. Sign of economy. Make it up on volume is dead. by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1
    Dell sees the writing on the wall that in a recession, people are less likely to upgrade their hardware often regardless of how "cheap" it is. This means that Dell can no longer continue with the race to the bottom and expect to make it up on volume. I recall predicting that this would happen a couple years ago only to be laughed at by others on slashdot.

    This is a bit ironic that Dell would be leading the charge back towards premium products when they forcing premium brands like IBM, HP and Sony down to their level for the past few years.

    Stop thinking about price and start thinking about "best value" for the money. I'm sticking with my macs but I think the era of the "cheap" computer is coming to an end and we will start to see slower upgrade cycles. You should be factoring in longevity of the product when making a purchase decision.

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