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Bing Gaining Market Share Faster
sopssa sends along a TechCrunch report on comScore qSearch numbers indicating that Bing is currently gaining market share faster than ever before. "In December, Microsoft's search engine gained another 0.4 percent to capture 10.7 percent of US search queries. That makes five straight months of steady share gains for Bing since it launched — Bing's share is up 2.7 percent in total since May, 2009. Google gained only 0.2 percent to end the month with 65.7 percent market share. What is even more interesting is if you look at year-over-year query growth rates for each search engine. Bing's growth is actually accelerating. Its growth rate in query volume was 49.4 percent in December."
This is what happens when you make your search engine the default one for your web browser as well as make it difficult for someone to add or change this option.
Duh!
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
When you're at the bottom, the only place you can go is up.
Go Microsoft!!!
When you pay off everyone and their brother to default to your service, you'll pick up a little momentum...
Bing is actually pretty darn good. They don't have the countless integrated features that Google has, but for good, solid search results, in some cases, Bing returns better results than Google. Where I work, people there have set about half of the desktops' home pages to Bing, with the other half being Google.
I don't respond to AC's.
no wonder... it's set as default on all the IE 8 and windows 7 installations i have made.
While we should probably be happy to see more than one viable candidate for the search engine market, none seem to address privacy very well. Both Bing/Yahoo and Google are quite happy to tell you that they'll track user activity and use it to make a profit. Are there any viable alternatives left with more favorable privacy policies?
Trying to use sarcasm in text-based forums does not work.
I run all OSes, Linux, Mac, Windows, and I set Bing as my default browser where ever I can. I can accept when Microsoft does something well (I also have a Zune HD). Bing is a great search engine, I find for specific queries, especially academic searches, it provides more accurate, as well as seperated results. Go ahead, type in "Honda Civic", and watch how it divides it based on more specific topics related to the car. The mighty Google has stagnated on its search engine like MS did on IE6 for too long, I'm glad to see some competition, and glad to see Microsoft trying again (as they are with IE8/9 and Windows 7).
lolwut?
Gaining market share for Bing is easy when you:
1) Already have the market for browsers (IE)
2) Make Bing the default search for said browsers
3) Direct all search traffic from all sites even remotely Microsoft affiliated through Bing
So what we would expect is everyone who just uses whatever is in front of them to start using Bing, because that's what Microsoft is putting in front of them.
=Smidge=
In other news, my 1-year-old child has gained massive weight and height, while I, unfortunately, have not gotten even a millimeter taller.
Google is the established leader, with a massive market share that is unlikely to grow much further. Bing is the new kid on the block, starting at zero. Of course Bing is going to grow. There is nothing else for it to do. Even if it's lousy, it is impossible for it to not gain share. This is like comparing the Zune marketshare with the iPod.
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i look after quite a few sites in the UK and Bing is nowhere, less than 1% for most of them
It is the default search engine, when IE is upgraded/installed, and very difficult to get rid of.
Let me know when the Chinese attack it
Ebay cash back is the main reason anyone uses it.
I still like the old "Why is Microsoft so expensive?" search (which in case you didn't know, the top returns are "why Apple is so expensive")
Strange right! An advertisement about the growth of Bing trumpeting the growth of Bing! And on an unrelated note, can we stop slashvertising Microsoft shit?
Quack, quack.
Google needs the competition at this point. Google search has become the Windows of search engines.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
The other day I opened a fortune cookie..."Learn chinese: bing = disease".
Makes me wonder how much if this is due to people switching from Google vs just buying a new PC (at least when I set up my Dad's PC it did). Bing market share growth follows a very similar trend to Windows 7 market share growth.
Apparently the answer is a resounding "NO."
"There are no facts, only interpretations." --Friedrich Nietzsche.
no wonder... it's set as default on all the IE 8 and windows 7 installations i have made.
That's a copout. On IE8, when you first run it, it specifically gives you choices on things like search engine defaults, and even offers to download a list of more providers if you don't like the current choices (of which Google is one).
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
Obviously the costs of operating a search engine are pretty significant and the market for people who'd pay for privacy is quite small. I suspect it'd need to be in the $20-50/month range, and i think that would deter a lot of people.
Little in life is free, and businesses that run on millions of dollars of hardware and fast internet connections are going to need to finance that.
In any event, if i'm going to have to deal with ads online then i'd PREFER that they were tailored to things i'm interested in.
Random websites are being mysteriously slaughtered.
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I would like to know what percentage of non-technical people use IE's integrated Bing search function to search for "Google" and then click on the first link which takes them to Google where they make their actual query. Laugh if you will but I have observed this behaviour on more than one occasion.
This completely contradicts two other reports from the last few days, which has Bing losing market share in December.
http://searchengineland.com/nielsen-yahoo-bing-down-google-up-in-december-33464
http://www.hitwise.com/us/press-center/press-releases/search-enginedec2009/
Bing, from the Evil Empire who's slogan takes you to the dark side of searching.
MSDN is now powered by Bing too. So every windows programmer in the world is now making Bing queries by default. That's got to boost things a bit.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
I use bing. When I go to buy something. I've collected hundreds of dollars from their cash back program. Outside of that, google is superior.
Market research fiirm Hitwise thinks, that Bing's market share is (was?) actually falling.
That total you see in the image in the article is for Microsoft Sites. This number includes searches from ALL of Microsoft's search boxes: Bing, Live, microsoft.com, etc etc.
If you look at the Nielsen report here: http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/nielsen-reports-december-u-s-search-rankings/
You'll see that they list Microsofts search sites as "MSN/Windows Live/Bing Search", which is a bit more explanatory I would say.
And if you check Hitwise, where they list searches BY domain name, www.bing.com LOST 4%. (http://www.hitwise.com/us/press-center/press-releases/search-enginedec2009/)
Julie Moult is an idiot.
Trying to check on the configuration of one of my switches using its built in html interface, I entered 10.0.0.101
Switch somehow had gone back to its default IP address, so it didn't respond.
Moments later, I was given a very helpful list of search queries for 10.0.0.101 by Bing.
Thank you Bing!!! Thank you for reminding me why I prefer Firefox over IE.
Bing is the default search engine on install.
MS have had a massing increase in new installs because of windows 7 gaining so much momentum.
Once the EU anti trust ruling is implements in March, forcing them to offer various search engines on start up, they will get to feel what competing feels like.
See here:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/16/eu-microsoft-antitrust/
i expect that the results will start flowing the other way then, unless MS spend even more money on inducements / advertising to induce people to use Bing.
Ged
No just the reporter resembles a fanboy, but also the statistics shown are hollow. Growth rate, as said in other comments from 1 to 2 is 200% while form bigger numbers this percentage is MUCH lower. If you want to speak about traffic, real traffic, then put a big fat window whenever you start IE for the first time, suggesting which Search engine to use.
You know, when I look at the graph in TFA the Search Share for Google increased just as much as Bing did! In Dec-08, MS sites were at 8.3%, up to 10.7% in Dec-09. During that same timespan, Google went from 63.5% to 65.7%.
And in that timespan, Yahoo dropped from 20.5% to 17.3%. AOL also dropped from 3.8% to 2.6%. Guess what - MSN isn't stealing Google's shares yet. It's stealing from Google's competitors.
Libertarians somehow believe that private businesses should be stronger than governments but weaker than individuals.
A lot of people I know that like Bing, like the Bing picture on the 1st page. It was well market researched.
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I like a fortune cookie I had once. On the back the learn Chinese word was:
Bing - disease
The report is "Bing Gains Market Share Faster" It is all the way up to 10.7% now. Fine. Google has 65.7%. You can show HUGE increases in your rate of market gain when hardly anybody is looking at you and then a few more look at you. The same number of eyeballs for Google is a small increase. Am I wrong, or did someone cherry pick the most appealing metric for Bing to write a story about?
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Better search results and a better privacy policy made me switch from Google to Bing. I do not have anything to hide but I prefer to use tools and services that value my privacy as much as I do. For example, Bing will remove the entire IP associated with the log after 18 months:
Further, we have built-in technological and procedural safeguards designed to prevent the unauthorized correlation of this data. We take additional steps to protect the privacy of stored search information by removing the entirety of the IP address, cookies and other cross session identifiers, after 18 months(more info here).
On the other hand Google will remove at most last octet from the IP address from thisarticle:
We are removing the last octet of the IP address. In other words, we put zeros into the last eight bits of a 32-bit IP address. Technically speaking, there can be one to three digits in the last octet, when it is written in decimal notation.
Microsoft is excluding the best technical talent from their search group. Google isn't. Pretty wallpaper only goes so far in search.
Seastead this.
Unfortunately, since Danger/Microsoft now own the Sidekick, Bing is now the default GPS/location search program on my device. While I have changed my mobile internet options to search Google rather than Bing, Google does not have a free application that will identify stores and their locations effectively. Navigating to maps.google.com will not work on my device, even on the mobile version. Whether this was intentionally broken by MSFT or is just a failure of mobile internet remains to be seen.
Bing isn't ridiculously terrible, but I really hate Microsoft. I can't wait for my contract to end so that I can get a different phone (that isn't a Microsoft POS).
According to the TFA, Google had about 65.6% of searches in November, and gained 0.2% additional in December; Microsoft had 10.3% in November, and gained 0.4% additional in December. So who is doing better? Well, if you operationalize that question as "who is converting a greater share of the searches that they don't already have?":
Google gained 0.2% of searches in December, out of the 34.4% of searches that weren't already being done on Google sites -- converting just about 0.58% of non-Google searches.
Microsoft gained 0.4% of searches in December, out of the 89.7% of searches that weren't already being done on Microsoft sites -- converting 0.45% of non-Microsoft searches.
It could be because when you play games on clubbing.com it searches bing...
Maybe I'm missing the obvious, but the story seems to be trying to sensationalize things. Look at the numbers they cite. You can see the following changes from Dec 08 to Dec 09.
Bing +2.4%
Google +2.2%
Yahoo -3.3%
AOL -1.2%
Ask -0.2%
So it looks to me like Bing and Google are just gobbling up market share from the weak. Google grew at approximately the same rate as Bing. Yet the article seized on relative growth, which of course is going to favor growing new services.
If you value your privacy, use Ixquick.
It's a meta search engine that goes through Bing, Yahoo, and many others. Then, Ixquick sorts the results by how popular the results were with all of the search engines.
Ixquick has NO logs of your searches.
Ixquick does NOT keep IP addresses.
The only downside is that Ixquick is ugly.
https://us2.ixquick.com/eng/
My search engine went from 1 user month year to 2 users this month. My %100 growth rate smashes the piddling growth of all others!
Percentage of queries is not market share: it's user share. Market share would be percentage of advertising revenue.
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
*Yes, I realise that some people have actually switched to it - but I'm sure that 98% of Bing users upgraded IE or are turning on Win7 for the first time.
*** Don't be dull.***
I have made a webpage, that is just a js withouth html, and it score the first, and second on bing movile, and first for normal devices.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=fotos+de+perritos&go=&form=QBRE&filt=all
this page:
http://www.servicios-dpi.com/fun/perritos.htm
It used to score well in Yahoo too. It seems these primitive search engine ( Bing, Yahoo, ) are more confident on meta data like title, than in the actual data of the website. AND/OR these search engines are easy cheated because use %, so if the 100% of your webpage is relevant, your page is awesome, so your page made of only the search term will be the best page.
The algorithm of Bing is poor.
The algorithm of Google started as rather good, and Is getting better and better, because is good, and because is need to fight spam. Any other search engine is way behing.
-Woof woof woof!
and the info-boxes inside them.
An interesting co-trend: Firefox market share is increasing. So we should have a tiny overlap and have an increasing number of firefox users switching to Bing.
It should have started at zero and immediately moved into enormous negative numbers.. it is Microsoft $hit.
At some point, after many failed attempts, Microsoft is bound to get something right. At the core of all of this debate, remember that Google and Microsoft are both publicly traded companies and their only obligation is to make a profit for shareholders. Historically the difference between the two has been that Google has been a smooth Las Vegas hooker taking your money while Microsoft has been more like a crackhead in Atlantic City taking your money with a lead pipe. Google has something like 80% of the search market and the time for backlash is past due. Bing isn't all that bad. They do need credit where credit is due.
Before Bing went live, CTRL+ENTER in Internet Explorer was a shortcut to surround the text in the address field with "www." and ".com" and then go. So I could type "amazon" then hit CTRL+ENTER and it would go to www.amazon.com. I used that shortcut all the time. After Bing went live, this shortcut magically changed from a useful tool to a Bing query for "amazon". I know it's possible to change it back with a reg hack or something but 95% of IE users aren't going to do this. Instead they'll just use Bing and click the first link, gaining ad revenue and perceived market share for MS. This is the kind of underhand crap that MS does that ticks me off. The fact that they were able to remotely change my keyboard shortcut without asking me or notifying me or telling me how to change it back is pretty shade.
Saw this a few days ago, never can tell what to believe.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10434099-17.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
Who is RTFM and when will he help me with Unix?
I wonder how many automated scripts Microsoft is running (each one accessing Bing to do a search), to cause those figures to be inflated.
I didnt see anyone mention it, but porn searching is one thing Bing seems to do better than Google. Less crap, and mouseover previews (with sound). Definitely makes finding things easier (rather than just seeing a thumbnail and trying to guess if she's ugly or not based on a single screen cap).
I search everything else in Google, but Bing has won my porn searches for sure.
Here's another take, just as meaningless:
Using bing to find "google search" yields 121,000,000 results.
Using google to find "bing search" yields 41,300,000.
Google wins hands down!
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Globally Bing is turning the other direction. Microsoft was always a bit stronger in the U.S., so nothing too exciting here.
And of course it went up in December when you see all the Windows 7 boxes that got sold before Christmas. They all default to Bing until the user changes it to something sane, which usually takes a bit. Wait for the January/February numbers and you'll probably see a nice dent in that curve again.
MSFT has been paying companies like Verizon to make Bing the default search on their devices.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
Of course it's been up every month. Bing is replacing Live/MSN/etc, and Yahoo is now using it as their search engine. It's gone from 0% to replacing 2 of the top 3 search engines. Of course this seems like rapid growth. How much of these users are NEW users being attracted from the competition? Probably not as interesting a story.
Twinstiq, game news
I've seen promotional crap for Bing all over the place. Any website remotely connected to Microsoft smooshes your face in Bing ads, deals, and prize contests. MS is practically bribing people to use Bing. Whether they will keep their market-share when they run out of ad money remains to be seen. Google is still better in my opinion.
Table-ized A.I.
If googles ceo wasn't arrogant and didn't say what he did. ("If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.") I probably would still be using google as my primary search engine.
Someday when he understands current political environments and can predict future political environments maybe he will change his stance.
Until than what may be acceptable today could be tomorrows dissident.
Can you really call it 'search engine market share' when people find the product they want with google, and then search bing for the same item to get cashback?
When I looked at the homepage of MSN (which many IE browsers use as the default home page), I found a minimum of 21 links that you thought were links to articles but were only links to Bing searches. This is why they are gaining ground, not because of a better search engine but because of the sneaky way they get people to use their search engine.
The chart in TFA seems to reflect (to my untrained eyes) a rise in MS/bing-le's market share mostly as a matter of eroding that of yahoo!
The chart also seems to show google(-site-)'s share growing as much as MS/bing-le's over the same period.
Maybe I'm missing something . . .
What is not noted as well is the contract with RIM which made all Blackberries default to using Bing.
"GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 51230 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; Setec Astronomy)"
I see no problem with bing, it is actually quite good.
Used it because it was the default in windows 7 at least.
Bing maps also was much better for my town (the aerial views). They apparently used Navtec data which was superior to googles blurry views.
Luckily it's easy to use whatever search engine you like, no costs in changing between them or using both or whatever.
I normally use Google because bing search doesn't offer anything better, just out of habit I guess.
When you're at the bottom, the only place you can go is up.
Tell that to AOL and Ask (the two bottom search engines), who have both been losing market share over the last couple months, according to the Barclay's Capital chart from the article.
/. article is "Bing Gaining Market Share Faster", although the chart clearly shows MS market share increase by 0.4, 0.5, 0.4, 0.1, 0.5, 0.4, and 0.4 percent for each month from June (when Bing was launched) through December, respectively. An honest title would have been "Bing Continues To Gain Market Share At Roughly The Same Rate It Has Since Launch". Of course that's not even taking into account the other reports we've heard recently about Bing supposedly losing market share.
Hilariously, the title of the
Also, this is my first time seeing query growth being considered as some kind of particularly important/significant statistic. I'm not saying it's not a valid/useful statistic, just that I've never before seen so much importance placed on it.
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
Maybe, but exactly what do those metrics represent.
My companion works at a relatively large school district: 14,000 students. The IT infrastructure at this school district is all Microsoft all the time. The IT administrators there have made Bong the default search engine and have used there nanny-filters to block access to Google.
Just exactly where did that policy come from and what is its justification? The rumor is that the IT director is on the take. The order is alleged to have come from him personally.
from the article: "Bing just keeps on gaining market share, and is now growing faster than ever before. "
doesn't that just sound like an ad or something? It sure doesn't sound like an unbiased report to me and my guess is that because of the previous report of BING losing share in Dec, someone financed this nice little 'research' paper and report to tell the world+dog that BING is really doing just fine. Just like we heard for months and months how great Windows Vista was doing while at the same time Microsoft was scrambling to throw out a patch they called Windows 7 to replace it.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. IMO
LoB
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Google is the king and I am a loyal subject.
Long Live the King!
I have made bing.com startup page in my firefox (linux box, of course) just to drain their resources, and look what happened - they actually gained more publicity. I'll go now and shoot myself in the foot...
The hotel I'm staying at is using WiFi that is sponsored by Bing. When I first connect to the network, I get a Bing search page telling me to begin a search or wait 30 seconds to connect. I wouldn't be surprised if many people just type in a term to get connected, generating lots of unneeded searches.
Just on general principle, I always change the default search provider from Bing to Google and then delete the Bing search provider altogether, on the computers of my friends and family. If Bing was worthwhile at all, you might think that they would be frustrated with me for dithering with their settings and such, but frankly, most of them never even notice -- or if they do notice, it's with gratitude rather than annoyance.
(Of course, it probably also helps that I'm the resident geek, and they all trust my implicitly with anything technology related.)
considering I know of nobody that uses Bing and I am in the tech industry.
Of course a search engine that pays people to use it is to to increase its queries. Cashback is the only reason I ever use Bing. Once they stop that, queries will level out or fall.
This is what happens when you make your search engine the default one for your web browser as well as make it difficult for someone to add or change this option.
The drop down menu in IE 8 Search will take you to this page:
Add-ons Gallery: Search Providers
Here's a sampling of the English language options. You have 25 languages to chose from:
Amazon
Google
Hulu
New Egg
New York Times
Wikipedia
Win 7 Comparability
Create your own Search Provider
Add your own search provider to your copy of Internet Explorer by following these steps:
1. Visit the desired search engine in another window or tab.
2. Use the search engine to search for TEST (all capital letters).
3. Paste the URL of the Search results page here
You can customize the name of your provider. You can select the character encoding, from about 50 or so choices. You can view the XML.
Microsoft lets you use one of their products on Linux?
How can this be?
kdawson posted what actually appears to be a positive news story relating to microsoft
Just for fun, I tried Honda Civic as a search. Actually, Bing sucks. Where the results differ, Bing has either a comparison between Civic and Integra windshields, or an ungodly list of used car sites
I have to call BS on this one.
Making the same search I saw - in this order:
2010 Honda Civic: Links To Specs-Safety-Reliability-Reviews
Link To Local Dealer and Service Listings
2010 Honda Civic Sedan - Honda Site
Honda Civic Wikipedia
Honda Civic Family - Honda Site
Images
And then a breakdown into subcategories:
Used Honda Civic
Civic Parts
Acessories
Manuals
Everything is accessible from the first page and very attractively presented.
Microsoft has in place a 'pay to bing' program where you are paid to switch over your companies default search engine to bing.
That will be helping their stats.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
I've just finished a marathon effort to remove some nasty adware. It was never identified/found by several antivirus apps and a fresh install was the only remedy. It was written specifically to target firefox (IE worked fine), hijacking links randomly and not so randomly (ie anything with 'virus' and 'removal' on the page would be redirected to one of a few ad pages. Love calculators etc). I first noticed the infection because it was randomly sending me to bing.com. Not just links off google or other search forms but internal website links (for different sections etc). Seemed pretty strange at the time given I hadn't realised the infection had occured but I think it troubles me more now. I'm assuming adware authors wouldn't bother to do this unless there was a financial benefit, unless they really have alot of love for bing? heh.
I usually give up about the time I hear that too.
The default engine for IE previously was MSN Search. They changed that to Bing. So you are saying that Bing marketshare is growing at the expense of MSN Search. However, if you RTFA, that isn't the case.
after recent comments made by E.Schmidt, I reconfigured all my default search engines to bing.com ... only to find out I'm happier with image & maps searches... I'm still evaluating the web search ...as this is only a temporary change, until I explore my options for breaking free of google, I'm sticking with Microsoft (coming from a person who is happy with linux both on desktop and laptop)
Why do astroturfers like to work by moonlight?
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
"And the man comes on to tell me, how bright my teeth should be."
Or is it, "My clothes are 100% whiter with Bing (TM) brand Detergent?"
testimonials, testimonials let's have more testimonials.
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
Just being a bother isn't enough to figure out the difference between a provider and a search engine.
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
On the most popular website I run, 90.5% of the organic hits continue to come from Google, with only 4.0% coming from Bing. Until I see _these_ numbers change significantly, I don't care what the overall market shares of these search engines are. In short, I only care about the data that relates to my own sites, and it should behoove everyone to do the same.
Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist