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Pepsi To Release New Breakfast Mountain Dew

skade88 writes "Pepsi will release on Feb 28th a new breakfast Mountain Dew. The new drink called Kick Start is Mountain Dew mixed with fruit juice. It will come in two flavors, Citrus and Fruit Punch. 'Our consumers told us they are looking for an alternative to traditional morning beverages – one that tastes great, includes real fruit juice and has just the right amount of kick to help them start their days,' said Greg Lyons, Mountain Dew's vice president of marketing."

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  1. one word by metalmaster · · Score: 5, Informative

    awesome...

    1. Re:one word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is going to go great with my Cocoa Puffs! I've always complained that I just wasn't getting enough sugar in my breakfast to get me going.

    2. Re:one word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      awesome...

      Not.

      What's wrong with the OLD breakfast Dew?

    3. Re:one word by butchersong · · Score: 2

      Honestly if you're in the habit of eating cereal this probably isn't much worse but the problem is people will treat this as a drink instead of what soft drinks really are... food. If you're going to eat anything for breakfast it should be protein maybe some nuts or bacon and eggs. I really don't understand how people function eating cereal, donuts and other cheap sources of calories especially first thing in the day. You either have to keep eating or you feel like crap in my experience.

    4. Re:one word by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I eat a bowl of cereal with fresh fruit (strawberries, blueberries, whatever is in season) almost every morning and it usually gets me through until lunch no problem. Of course, mornings are also coffee time, so maybe that's what is keeping me filled and energetic :)

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    5. Re:one word by Golddess · · Score: 1

      Actually, yes, yes it is. When you're trying to do it while driving down the highway doing 80mph. Much easier to sip a drink than nom a sandwich that drips or just plain falls apart.

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    6. Re:one word by sdsucks · · Score: 1

      awesome...

      That pretty much sums it up.

      I had Mountain Dew instead of coffee today, since the available coffee was not good. This is "light" Mountain Dew Fuel though, 10 calories in a can but probably a ton of aspartame. I don't think I'd want anything with more sugar.

    7. Re:one word by I+Mean,+What · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unfortunately for those who've never eaten healthy in their life they don't know they feel like crap. They don't have any other experience to compare it to. A few years ago I started eating a lot healthier, and replaced one meal per week with just a salad. I thought I was going to feel like crap due to what I perceived to be a lack of substance but it turned out I had way more energy and started to feel "good" for the first time since childhood. After I cut out sugar, sodas, and most red meat I find myself feeling much more energetic. Exercising in the morning added to this effect. I didn't know that I felt like crap eating crap food until I experienced something else. I think most people who eat fast food all the time and don't exercise think they feel fine. It's kinda sad.

    8. Re:one word by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      That's not awesome, know what was awesome? Jolt Cola. Double the caffeine and double the sugar, the theme song for that drink should have been Kickstart My heart by Motley Crue as that shit would smack you upside the head in the morning and get your ass in gear. Man I miss Jolt.

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    9. Re:one word by chromas · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bonus if you hit a ramp of some sort and manage a barrel roll while pouring the Breakfast Diet Double Dew 8 inches from your face. X-TREME, my good sir.

    10. Re:one word by davester666 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Beer?

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    11. Re:one word by Imagix · · Score: 1

      Wait.. the marketing for Jolt (at least when it first came out) was "All the sugar, and twice the caffiene of the leading colas". Unfortunately I stopped really drinking Jolt when it went from glass bottles to plastic. (And it _really_ tasted bad from the aluminum cans) And even since then, it's now an energy drink :(

  2. How much money did they pay you to post this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well?

  3. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who cares?

    1. Re:Really? by englishknnigits · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ummm...it involves Mountain Dew. Sooooo...nerds?

    2. Re:Really? by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      Likely a good deal of people.

    3. Re:Really? by DannyiMac · · Score: 1

      It will be featured on the Big Bang Theory.

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    4. Re:Really? by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      Endocrinologist, i.e. They should be aware when the next diabetes epidemy started and what caused it.

    5. Re:Really? by N0Man74 · · Score: 2

      Ummm...it involves Mountain Dew. Sooooo...nerds?

      I suppose. For some strange reason, Mountain Dew appears to occupy a unusually prevalent place in both geek and redneck culture.

      Personally, I think that Homer Simpson was spot on...

      Homer: Now, what do you have to wash that awful taste out of my mouth?
      Khlav Kalash Vendor: Mountain Dew or Crab Juice.
      Homer: Blecch! Ew! Sheesh! I'll take a crab juice.

    6. Re:Really? by detritus. · · Score: 1

      Let's not bring Candy into this discussion....

    7. Re:Really? by Golddess · · Score: 3, Informative

      Code Monkey does like Tab and Mountain Dew...

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    8. Re:Really? by citizenr · · Score: 1

      Ummm...it involves Mountain Dew. Sooooo...nerds?

      no, not all nerds are fat.

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  4. Great story! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ignore all the ignorant trolls complaining about this one.

    - Frank Davidson
        EVP, PepsiCo Marketing.

    1. Re:Great story! by Frank+Davidson,+EVP · · Score: 1

      Wait a sec, this isn't Facebook? What is this weird place?

  5. Australia by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We only just got caffienated Mt. Dew recently in Australia. Why do you guys like it so much? It's terrible...

    1. Re:Australia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      We only just got caffienated Mt. Dew recently in Australia. Why do you guys like it so much? It's terrible...

      I'm convinced there'll be more than just a bit of overlap between meth users and Mountain Dew drinkers once we know the entirity of human genetics.

      I swear I read the summary, but all I retained was "diabetes, diabetes, diabetes, diabetes."

    2. Re:Australia by LongSpleen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Homer Simpson: Now, what do you have to wash that awful taste out of my mouth?
      Khlav Kalesh Guy: Mountain Dew or Crab Juice.
      Homer Simpson: Blecch! Ew! Sheesh! I'll take a crab juice.

    3. Re:Australia by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Funny

      So you had some decaf form of it before?

      Any reason? or just that being felons means we don't trust you with any drugs?

      Why would anyone drink Mt.Dew without caffeine? That is like decaf coffee or alcohol free beer or tits on a boar hog.

    4. Re:Australia by LongSpleen · · Score: 2

      Some countries have/had laws about which drinks can be caffeinated. I think Canada only started allowing non-cola drinks to be caffeinated a few years ago so Canadian Mtn. Dew was non-caffeinated. Not sure if the reason was the same in Australia or not.

    5. Re:Australia by operagost · · Score: 1

      That's your opinion, Captain Vegemite.

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    6. Re:Australia by ak3ldama · · Score: 5, Informative

      No... My favorite part is from this article!

      "Kickstart combines the best of all worlds -- it tastes great, has just the right amount of real fruit juice and gives them a kick to help them start their day," Baker said.
      The amount of fruit juice Kickstart actually has is 5%, Baker said. ...

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    7. Re:Australia by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      That is the sort of pointless regulation that makes people yearn for a smaller government.

      If caffeine is legal and drinks are legal caffeinated drinks should be legal. Of course I think the USA just made caffeinated alcoholic beverages illegal. So far this has not stopped me from mixing redbull and vodka.

    8. Re:Australia by rwyoder · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why would anyone drink Mt.Dew without caffeine? That is like decaf coffee or alcohol free beer or tits on a boar hog.

      "Why would anyone drink alcohol-free beer? Is it for people who don't like getting drunk, but still enjoy urinating?" -- Jay Leno

    9. Re:Australia by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I haven't had it much since I was a kid, but I think it had the most caffeine of any soda drink for awhile. So it was a favorite of college kids studying.

    10. Re:Australia by Bieeanda · · Score: 1

      The formulation might be different. American soft drinks tend to use high-fructose corn syrup, which lends a different flavour than the glucose/fructose mix that's typical in Canada, and worlds away from stuff made with cane sugar.

    11. Re:Australia by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Well, what about a caffeine ban only for children under 18? That would essentially mean non-caffeinated sodas all around anyway since kids are the biggest market.

    12. Re:Australia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Because nobody can have a soft drink once in a while without becoming a mess? Piss off.

    13. Re:Australia by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Why would you ban caffeine for kids?

      Besides why would you remove caffeine from sodas if you banned it for kids? Would you not just sell a decaf version and a regular version?

      I doubt kids are the biggest market, all the adults I know drink caffeinated beverages. What do you think you mix with rum?

    14. Re:Australia by myth24601 · · Score: 1

      We only just got caffienated Mt. Dew recently in Australia. Why do you guys like it so much? It's terrible...

      Nectar of the gods!

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    15. Re:Australia by anethema · · Score: 2

      Actually in Canada, "Glucose/Fructose" is just BS to hide the fact that it is also HFCS. No difference from USA sweetener.

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    16. Re:Australia by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      So it's basically what we know as Spezi in Germany (and what Pepsi already has sold here for quite some time under the name "Schwip Schwap")?

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    17. Re:Australia by Intropy · · Score: 1

      Vegemite slathered Texas toast with a tall glass of Code Red - the breakfast of champions.

    18. Re:Australia by jandrese · · Score: 1

      There is literally no point to caffeine free Mountain Dew. The only reason that drink exists is because it has a lot of sugar and caffeine when you need a huge burst of energy for the next hour or so and don't mind the crash afterward.

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    19. Re:Australia by Sedated2000 · · Score: 1

      Is it made with real sugar over there, or high fructose corn syrup? It's strange, but this is the only soda I think tastes _better_ with the high fructose corn syrup than the sugar.

    20. Re:Australia by femtobyte · · Score: 2

      "Just the right amount of fruit juice" means the amount that allows them to prominently display "Made with real fruit juice!" on the label, without incurring too much extra cost from actually including juice. "Just right" for a mega-corporation is always going to be starkly different from "just right" for human beings.

    21. Re:Australia by Cyphax · · Score: 1

      Here, in the Netherlands, they do the same thing. It's not always called high fructose corn sirup (most commonly it's glucose/fructose sirup) so you want to know the various labels for this if you prefer actual sugar.

      That said, I rely on import to get any Mt. Dew at all; I wish Pepsi would do something about that. It's not quite rare, thankfully, but still -- Pepsi isn't uncommon here.
      I've also seen Mt. Dew that didn't have HFCS for a sweetener, but those are made in Europe somewhere, I believe. Maybe Spain, I'm really not sure about this. I haven't had a bloody Mt. Dew in a while so I'm not quite too sharp.

    22. Re:Australia by dargaud · · Score: 2

      What do you mean "A new breakfast soda" ? No need for that. When I worked in the US my colleague whom I shared the office with came every morning with a gallon-sized mug of Coke(tm). Yes, a bucket with a handle, filled with ice cube and Coke, which she would take an hour or two to get choke down. I was horrified. But of course she did look like a sphere.

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    23. Re:Australia by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Why would anyone drink Mt.Dew without caffeine?

      I knew other countries had caffeine free Mt. Dew. I would drink a lot more Diet Mt. Dew if there were a caffeine free version in the U.S. I drink some caffeinated soda, but mostly caffeine free, especially if I drink it at night.. So at night especially I avoid Diet Mt. Dew.

    24. Re:Australia by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      I agree with your cynicism, however at least *some* fruit juices really aren't much better than sugared soda. (I want to say all, but have no citations.) For example, apple juice, which seems to be fed to kids a lot, is basically just sugar water with very little nutrients.

      (Now, *eating* fruit, sure that's a good thing.)

      BTW, I eat total junk food, I'm just trying to pass on that some of the supposedly healthier things really aren't.

    25. Re:Australia by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      Kids are a huge market, if not the biggest. My wife manages a teen drop-in center; they all drink Monster like it was water.

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    26. Re:Australia by guttentag · · Score: 1

      The amount of fruit juice Kickstart actually has is 5%, Baker said. ...

      The 5% level is just temporary until they get more funding for their Kickstarter campaign. At the $10,000 contribution level you get a case of 100% orange juice before the product hits store shelves.

    27. Re:Australia by poetmatt · · Score: 1

      you know why they call it a beverage? it's liquid you can drink.

      That doesn't mean you should. In fact, poison distilled in water is a beverage, and it's probably better for you than any processed food or drink.

    28. Re:Australia by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 1

      So there's a Kickstart for Kick Start? I'm drinking my own personal kick start (tea and a scone) and would enjoy it greatly if /. kept us up to date on Kick Start Kickstarts; Kick, Start...kick start, kickstart.

    29. Re:Australia by dywolf · · Score: 1

      apple juiice >>>>> soda
      less sugar, no HFCS, less acidic, more elctrolytes.
      tastes better too.
      plus in this modern day and age of fortified foods, there are plenty of apple juices that have been made "healthier" than plain apple juice.

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    30. Re:Australia by jjsimp · · Score: 2

      When I was addicted to the stuff, I tried to cut down on the shakes with the decaf stuff. The Mt. Dew Caffeine Free is a horrible drink. Thankfully, I am off Mt. Dew and any soda products now. When I am traveling I may have an occasional Coke or Pepsi, but I haven't had a Mt. Dew since before the spinoffs starting coming out (Mt. Dew White, Mt. Dew Red). And no I was not then or now obese. I'm not exactly Mr. Fitness either.

    31. Re:Australia by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Because caffeine is a stimulant and it's not good to give them too much of it.

    32. Re:Australia by king+neckbeard · · Score: 2

      Apple juice has a decent amount of vitamins and minerals in it, and a low glycemic index. I can't think of any fruit juices that don't have a lot of at least Vitamin C in them. Fruit juices don't have as many nutrients as V8 or Milk, and they have more sugar than water, but if you aren't drinking fruit juices exclusively, I don't think it's a real health concern.

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    33. Re:Australia by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      The AC post that responded to me is score 0.. So I'm basically reposting it.

      Caffeine Free Diet Mountain Dew has limited availability in the US.

      http://cr.pepsico.com/dew/ will show if any stores carry it in a 50-mile radius of your zip code.

      Unfortunately, not available within 50 miles of me.

    34. Re:Australia by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      In the Philadelphia area, Pepsi has been selling "throwback" versions of their products, which contain real, honest to goodness sugar. I know that Mountain Dew is one of the "throwback" products that has been available.

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    35. Re:Australia by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Well, personally, I like the taste of some alcohol-free beers and I indeed don't like getting drunk.

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    36. Re:Australia by Cstryon · · Score: 1

      I like the throwback ones. But I'm a diet drinker. I'm not so sure what a throwback diet would be made with...

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    37. Re:Australia by RazorSharp · · Score: 1

      Well, personally, I like the taste of some alcohol-free beers and I indeed don't like getting drunk.

      Do you really drink enough alcohol-free beer that, if it weren't alcohol-free, you'd be drunk?

      Sometimes I drink beer to enjoy a tasty beverage -- usually Corona w/ lime or a wheat beer. Sometimes I drink beer to get drunk -- in this case it doesn't really matter what it is and I drink about 5-10x as much as I would if I were just enjoying a beverage.

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    38. Re:Australia by Americano · · Score: 1

      which lends a different flavour than the glucose/fructose mix that's typical in Canada

      That "different flavour" is all in your head. Read this, specifically the paragraph that reads as follows (bold added for emphasis):

      Key commodity inputs needed to make carbonated soft drinks include concentrates, sugar (cane or beet), glucose/fructose, aspartame, acesulfame-potassium, caramel colour, sodium benzoate, phosphoric and citric acids, caffeine, seasonings, carbon dioxide and specially treated water. (Glucose/fructose is a generic term for high fructose corn syrup or HFCS, now more commonly referred to as "'corn sugar'".) The industry uses about 20 times as much corn sugar as it does cane/beet sugar as the sweetening agent. Except for water, the bulk of raw inputs for this industry are imported, mostly from the U.S. However a small portion of the corn sugar is supplied domestically.

      You say Glucose/Fructose, we say HFCS. Same stuff.

    39. Re:Australia by damnbunni · · Score: 1

      Actually, apple juice has more sugar than soda.

      At least, that's what I see comparing the label on Mott's and Coca-Cola.

      (I sort of wonder why they don't fortify soda. Apparently Coke had a Diet Coke with added B-complex, but I never even heard of it till it was discontinued, so it must not have been marketed very hard.)

    40. Re:Australia by damnbunni · · Score: 1

      In at least some parts of the US, you can actually get Pepsi and Mountain Dew made with cane sugar. They're marketed as a different product - Pepsi Throwback and Mountain Dew Throwback. They have retro labels on 'em, too.

      If you're importing anyway, see if you can get the Throwback versions.

    41. Re:Australia by Greyfox · · Score: 1
      I had a psychiatrist diagnose me as a caffeine addict once, based simply on the fact that I drank Mountain Dew. That's probably why right there. I don't drink it anymore, having cut out most soft drinks back in '98 (Though if I'm really, REALLY sick, you might spot me drinking imported Mexican Coca-Cola over ice,) but I'm still a caffeine addict. I just get it in black coffee now.

      Funnily enough, I found it quite easy to quit smoking, but have never managed to kick caffeine for more than a few months before starting back up with it again. Ultimately, winter does me in and I have to start again.

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    42. Re:Australia by pngai · · Score: 1

      So do you prefer sucrose? Because sucrose is a compound of (technically a disaccharide composed of the monosaccharides) Glucose and Fructose.

      As soon as it hits your stomach, gastric acidity converts sucrose to glucose and fructose during digestion.

    43. Re:Australia by glaqua · · Score: 1

      yeah, pointless regulation and all, but I rather liked Mt Dew without caffeine, and putting the caffeine back in it kinda takes it off my list. I get plenty enough with coffee and coke, and it does not need to be in everything.

    44. Re:Australia by WhirledOne · · Score: 1

      Cyclamates.

      That (sodium cyclamate) is what Diet Pepsi was originally sweetened with-- until it (the sweetener) was banned in the USA.

      Canada could still have "Throwback Diet Pepsi" though.

    45. Re:Australia by JimCanuck · · Score: 1


      Repeat after me ...

      There is no such thing as too much caffeine ...

      There is no such thing as too much caffeine ...

      There is no such thing as too much caffeine ...

    46. Re:Australia by kylemonger · · Score: 1

      LOL. Retro diet means Saccharin.

    47. Re:Australia by gmhowell · · Score: 2

      apple juiice >>>>> soda
      less sugar, no HFCS, less acidic, more elctrolytes.

      Yeah, but how does apple juice compare to Brawndo?

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    48. Re:Australia by retchdog · · Score: 1

      apples don't have vitamin c naturally, and in fact not much of any vitamin. any vitamins in apple juice have been added.

      there's nothing wrong with adding artificial vitamins of course, but on the flip side, why not just take a multivitamin with my mountain dew if i prefer that?

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    49. Re:Australia by tsa · · Score: 1

      Because caffeine is a stimulant and it's not good to give people too much of it.

      There. FTFY.

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    50. Re:Australia by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      I neither like the taste of alcohol, nor the feeling I get from it, so I don't drink.
      Besides, I prefer the taste of alcohol-free Warsteiner or Bitburger to the normal one. Nothing beats Russian kvass, though.

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    51. Re:Australia by spongman · · Score: 1

      Try black tea as a substitute...

    52. Re:Australia by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      I bought a case of alcohol free beer to try, partly for dietary reasons, partly monetary (it's around 50% of the price on average). It's not like Diet Coke is to Coca Cola. It's like store brand diet cola is to Coca Cola. There is nothing resembling the original product in it; It's just bland. Awfully bland, and far too sweet.

      Drink Guinness instead. It's got a lower calorie content than most "lite" beers.

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    53. Re:Australia by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      I made the mistake of trying a Dr Pepper. It reminded me of my mother making me drink medicine as a child. I am also in AU.

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    54. Re:Australia by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Apples do naturally have vitamin C see http://web.archive.org/web/20051023040512/http://www.nafex.org/jansonfiles/JansonJan68.htm

      As for fortified Mountain Dew, that would certainly be preferable to ordinary Mountain Dew healthwise, although there may be some issues with bioavailabilty. However, while fortified Apple Juice is almost the only option, while fortified mountain doesn't exist.

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    55. Re:Australia by retchdog · · Score: 1

      sure, if the juice hasn't been heat-treated, allowed to oxidize, etc.

      at any rate, the majority of vitamins present in most commercial fruit juices have been added, and are mostly artificial.

      why should i pay for someone to `fortify' my juice with a dime's worth of multivitamin? juice=sugar, and mostly fructose (=`fruit sugar') if that concerns you (it doesn't me).

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  6. Don't they remember Pepsi AM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is an old idea and it failed miserably before: http://money.ca.msn.com/savings-debt/gallery/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=23512850&page=3

    1. Re:Don't they remember Pepsi AM? by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      You don't think the market can shift even a little bit between 1989 and now?

  7. Re:... another low? by Redmancometh · · Score: 1

    There is a very accurate stereotype of *gamer* nerds surrounded by pyramids of empty mt dew cans.

  8. But.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Nobody who drinks mountain dew is awake in the morning.

    1. Re:But.. by mitzoe · · Score: 1

      Anybody who drinks mountain dew is still awake in the morning.

      FTFY

  9. Slashdot? Not The Onion? by mfarah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I saw this headline coming up in my feed, I thought it was from The Onion. THEN I saw the familiar /. logo...

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  10. Re:Are they going to try to sell this as "a part o by Hsien-Ko · · Score: 1

    Judging from the music used in their commercials, it'll make you feel like a saint too

  11. No thanks. by Dracos · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mountain Dew already has orange juice concentrate in it. If someone wants juice with a kick, drop an open 5 Hour Energy into your glass of juice.

    What their consumers really want is for Mountain Dew Throwback to replace regular Mountain Dew.

    1. Re:No thanks. by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      Came to say that OJ was already in there......was beat to the punch.

      Mods, please add some "Informative" points to parent post.

    2. Re:No thanks. by LordLimecat · · Score: 2

      The idea that somehow replacing 40g of HFCS with 40g of sugar (which is chemically very nearly the same thing as HFCS) will make a significant improvement is laughable.

      It would be like worrying about what kind of oil is used to fry your french fries. Perhaps there is a small difference in there somewhere, but you really need to worry about the quantity of oil, not the type.

    3. Re:No thanks. by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Better yet, drop a shot or two of vodka in the OJ and skip the mountain dew. Screwdrivers are a breakfast drink.

    4. Re:No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You seriously can't taste the difference between regular and throwback? Let me guess, you also can't believe it's not butter, and diet tastes the same as regular.

    5. Re:No thanks. by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      I agree on the first but not the latter.

      The old McDonalds oil made me vomit. Mind you I had a pretty sensitive stomach as a kid, but that stuff set off the projectile vomiting.

    6. Re:No thanks. by vlm · · Score: 1

      I think its more a chronic issue. 5% less fructose doesn't sound like much, until you think of a hard core addict drinking 3 cans/day thats 1000 cans/yr or about 5 kilos less of fructose.

      Kind of like "low tar" cigarettes. Yes quitting smoking is the best "low tar" solution, but its better than nothing.

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    7. Re:No thanks. by theripper · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Replacing 40g of HFCS with 40g of sugar significantly changes the taste. Mountain Dew Throwback tasts way better.

    8. Re:No thanks. by noc007 · · Score: 2

      This. It tastes better with real sugar and actually has OJ in the Throwback version as parent mentioned. I'd like to see what the Throwback would taste like without the added sugar or perhaps a little added sugar. Still, I do buy every 12 pack of Throwback on the shelf at the local grocery store since it costs the same as the crappy HFCS version. Once, Costco blessed us with a well priced case of MD Throwback, but they at least stock the Mexican Coke regularly.

    9. Re:No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here's an even better idea:

      Wake up refreshed from a good night's sleep; Prepare a nice breakfast consisting of lean high quality protein (3 egg omelet with a bunch of onions, peppers, tomatoes, olives, spinach, mushrooms, and a bit of diced ham, cooked with MINIMAL oil), and a nice chunk of cantaloupe or a bowl of berries (blueberries, strawberries, raspberries), and a big glass of cold water, plus some coffee or tea.

      Drink plenty more water through the day. For lunch, prepare a nice salad with some grilled chicken, shrimp, or beef tips, and a little bit of balsamic vinaigrette. For dinner, a big plate of steamed vegetables with some grilled steak / chicken / pork.

      Minimize the added oil, minimize the dairy, minimize the starchy vegetables & pure carb sides (potatoes, pasta, rice, etc.), and eliminate the shit foods like soda, chips, and candy - for snacks, choose fruit, vegetables, or nuts, and water (drop some lemon, or cucumber, or melon into a pitcher and let it sit to infuse the water with a little flavor if you really hate plain water). Fruit juice is just sugar in a glass, as well - skip it.

      Do all that, stop spending stupid money on bullshit chemicals to flood your body with "energy," and be amazed at the health benefits that accrue from eating healthy, high quality food instead of stuffing your stupid piehole full of processed garbage from PepsiCo and Frito Lay. You'll be amazed at how quickly your energy levels rise, and how very little "hunger" you have when you're not constantly spiking & crashing your blood sugar and giving yourself diabetes.

    10. Re:No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Which old oil? The beef tallow, or the partially hydrogenated crap they switched to from that? Now to plain vegetable oil because the trans-fat was bad, meanwhile the animal fats are actually healthier than either of the replacements. I want my beef tallow fried fries and lard fried chicken back! I'm only 30 but I remember when food had flavor!

    11. Re:No thanks. by cffrost · · Score: 2

      It would be like worrying about what kind of oil is used to fry your french fries. Perhaps there is a small difference in there somewhere, but you really need to worry about the quantity of oil, not the type.

      1 lb. of fries fried in 1 gal. vegetable oil vs. 1 lb of fries fried in 1 gal. used motor oil: Negligible difference.

      1 lb. of fries fried in 1 gal. either oil vs. 1 lb. of fries fried in 2 gal. either oil: Life or death.

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    12. Re:No thanks. by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      The stuff they had in the 90s.
      Once my mother left some fries on a plate in the kitchen. I had just gotten off the bus and was hungry, so I ate them without considering there source. As it turns out since I was at school my mother had some McDonalds for lunch. That ended badly.

    13. Re:No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What's funny is that there is plenty of science to back up exactly how unhealthy most of this processed food is, and you call it "luddite crap."

      Surely you can understand that the "chemically extracted, mechanically separated food components derived from chicken and chicken by products" is not the same thing as "a chicken breast." Surely you can also understand that things like "Fructose" and "Sucrose" and "Proteins" are processed differently by the body, and when you eat something "high in fructose" as opposed to "high in sucrose," as opposed to something "high in protein," different metabolic pathways will be used to different extents to process that food in your body, and that those metabolic pathways produce myriad cascades of side effects throughout the very complex system that is your body?

      Or, maybe you can't understand these things, and dismiss them as ignorant voodoo. In that case, please continue eating a bunch of heavily processed chemically altered garbage into an early grave. Enjoy your pink slime burger from McDonald's washed down with Super Extreme 5 Hour Energy Exxxxxplosive Cutting Edge Kick Start, chump

    14. Re:No thanks. by BasilBrush · · Score: 1, Troll

      He didn't just say "chemicals" he said "bullshit chemicals", which whilst not the most technical of terms is clearly a subset of all chemicals.

      What he says is absolutely true. There's an enormous health difference between eating unprocessed foods and processed foods. You're young... in your 20s you don't necessarily feel the effects of a bad diet. You certainly will as you get older.

    15. Re:No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So your REAL objection is that I said, "don't eat bullshit chemicals," when you prefer the highly scientific terminology, "don't eat food that comes in a box"?

      Not only are you a useless bit of flesh much like the human taint, you're an obnoxious, and BAD, pedant. Thanks for contributing your useless clarifications - we're all more stupid for having been exposed to them.

    16. Re:No thanks. by sootman · · Score: 1

      My friend used to drink Dewdrivers: Mt. Dew & vodka. Best of both worlds!

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    17. Re:No thanks. by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      36 *whole* oz of soda? Man. Who could drink that much in a day...

    18. Re:No thanks. by CelticWhisper · · Score: 1

      The other half drink 5+ cans of code per work day.

      From the mouths of programmers...

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    19. Re:No thanks. by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Here's an even better idea:

      Wake up refreshed from a good night's sleep; Prepare a nice breakfast consisting of lean high quality protein (3 egg omelet with a bunch of onions, peppers, tomatoes, olives, spinach, mushrooms, and a bit of diced ham, cooked with MINIMAL oil), and a nice chunk of cantaloupe or a bowl of berries (blueberries, strawberries, raspberries), and a big glass of cold water, plus some coffee or tea.

      And you give me a tempting breakfast idea the day after i buy a kilogram of the highest-quality oats because they were on sale at the supermarket?!

      I've changed my typical breakfast several times (cereal until I went to university, muesli while there, bread+butter+cheese until I realised that was about 3-4g of salt to start the day, and most recently porridge).

      I could start eating your breakfast (minus the tea/coffee), but I think I should try and get more variety. I'll try it anyway :-)

    20. Re:No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Because when you act like a clueless limp-dick, the best response is to be more of a dick and try to pretend you was just jokin, brah, amirite?

      A gentleman acknowledges when he behaved like a boor. Thanks for confirming my suspicion that you're closely related to the average human taint.

    21. Re:No thanks. by mattack2 · · Score: 2

      What if we hate cooking?

      (out to get a footlong Subway in a while..)

    22. Re:No thanks. by Admiral_Grinder · · Score: 1

      I can drink a 6 pack of standard Dew like it is water, but I can't drink more than 3 throw backs in a day. For some reason it is more filling to me. Now there is a difference in taste, but I preferred the green label throw backs to the white labels ones now.

    23. Re:No thanks. by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      There's a massive difference between the same company in different countries.

      Around 20-15 years ago, McDonalds in Poland had great quality. Why? Because their burger set for 10zl competed with a bigger burger for 1zl 20 and coke for 2zl 50 just outside their restaurant, and thus no riff-raff would eat there, and they had to cater to a better clientele. I then visited the US, and McDonalds there were quite a shock. In a contrast to the country in general being far more civilized than Poland, all three McDonalds I poked my head into stank like worst Polish commie-era eateries, with a general state of cleaniness akin to that of a Serbian toilet. Obviously, I did not dare eat there. I tried Burger King instead -- the diarrhea lasted long. So while they were able to make tasty and safe food in Poland, on their home turf they apparently don't even try.

      Since then, just as Poland in general slowly but steadily improves, the quality of McDonalds is in a rapid plunge.

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    24. Re:No thanks. by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      What their consumers really want is for Mountain Dew Throwback to replace regular Mountain Dew.

      Don't care about regular Dew. Too much sugar.

      This consumer wants Diet Voltage. It was da bomb when it was being tested.

    25. Re:No thanks. by Convector · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Although I personally would swap out the OJ for additional vodka. Cut out the sugar altogether.

    26. Re:No thanks. by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I agree that I can taste the difference. I've never done a double blind test, though.

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    27. Re:No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If that's the case, then go upstairs and ask your mom to make you a healthier breakfast. Or alternately, grow the fuck up and learn to function like an adult in the real world.

      It takes literally 5 minutes and zero appreciable cooking skill to scramble eggs in a frying pan with some diced vegetables. Fuck, if you really hate the idea of doing anything for yourself, just get some decent salsa (i.e., without a shitload of added preservatives, salt, and other bullshit) and put a few big scoops of salsa over the eggs as they finish cooking, and eat that with an apple. Or is washing the apple too much work, too?

      It takes literally 15 minutes to rub a little black pepper (or other seasoning of your choice) & olive oil on a pack of skinless chicken breasts and broil them - easily enough to handle 3-4 days worth of meals in a single go. If you want quick at the tradeoff of quality, you can get frozen pre-grilled chicken breasts that are microwaveable, and have all the delightful consistency of tire rubber.

      Spend $25 and buy a serviceable steaming pot for your vegetables, or have lots of cold salads - easy enough to buy pre-washed, pre-sliced salad vegetables in the grocery store. Hell, you can buy frozen, steam-in-bag microwave vegetables for those emergency times when you absolutely can't stand the thought of waiting a whole 10 minutes for your veggies to steam.

      There is absolutely no reason other than unadulterated laziness that you can't make decent meals for yourself. And if this IS a problem, then I have a tip for you: you're already at risk for all of the ugly side effects of bad eating, because you're too lazy to care what sort of shit you put into your body, and are abusing your body through its best years - it will not repay that disservice kindly, you can be sure.

    28. Re:No thanks. by Americano · · Score: 1

      Don't be sure- at the very least, I hope you're getting yourself checked out by your doctor regularly.

      "Metabolically Obese but Normal Weight" (MONW, or popularly, 'skinny fat') is a real thing, and puts you at FAR greater risk of some bad results of heart disease, diabetes, and other 'metabolic syndrome' diseases - most likely because the skinny folk don't exhibit symptoms until the disease is more advanced, meaning intervention is less likely to improve things.

      In a nut, you don't have to be "fat" to have these diseases - they TEND to travel together, but if you happen to be an ectomorph who is still raising hell with his body by dumping raw sugar into it at the rate you claimed, then that's probably going to exact a pretty steep toll on you over time. Being skinny and "not falling apart" isn't exacly a bill of good health... if you're not getting regular checkups with the doc, you might want to consider starting.

      Not to say "oh god don't drink that stuff ever" - maybe you're the lucky "one in a million" whose body is able to handle it better than most... but the weight of medical evidence is pretty clear that that volume of regular soda over that long a time has some pretty bad effects on most people.

    29. Re:No thanks. by Cstryon · · Score: 1

      HAH, "beat to the punch". Very clever. Though I agree with you. GP Informative please.

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    30. Re:No thanks. by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      5% less fructose doesn't sound like much, until you think of a hard core addict drinking 3 cans/day thats 1000 cans/yr or about 5 kilos less of fructose.

      It would be ~2kilos extra of fructose out of ~40kilos of glucose / frutose, and that extra 2 kilos isnt the problem, his diet is.

    31. Re:No thanks. by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      AFAIK in double blind studies people cannot distinguish the difference.

      However, I do remember preferring throwback-- even if it was all in my mind (psychosomatic?).

    32. Re:No thanks. by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Well, Im also assuming that by "sugar" we're not including things like cellulose. I suppose that WOULD make a substantial difference, unless youre a big fan of roughage.

    33. Re:No thanks. by proxima · · Score: 1

      Replacing 40g of HFCS with 40g of sugar significantly changes the taste. Mountain Dew Throwback tasts way better.

      I'm pretty sure they change the formulas on the Throwback series. European/Mexican Coke tastes better than U.S. Coke, for example, but they're still fairly close. Mt. Dew Throwback tastes more different. Pepsi Throwback is, in my opinion, remarkably different (a bit weaker, actually).

      It makes sense when you think about it. Some people don't mind the taste of HFCS, and if they tried a simple HFCS->sucrose switch, they wouldn't tell much of a difference. By mucking with the formula a bit (emphasizing a light body among other things I'm not capable of describing), it's clear to almost everyone that Throwback is a different product.

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    34. Re:No thanks. by adolf · · Score: 1

      European/Mexican Coke tastes better than U.S. Coke, for example, but they're still fairly close. Mt. Dew Throwback tastes more different.

      Mexi-coke is just Coca-Cola that has never been fucked with: Notice that it does not say "Coke Classic" as every bottle of stateside-produced Coke does. Cane sugar is very cheap almost everywhere but in the US, so they've never had to do anything different.

      Mt. Dew Throwback is a different animal entirely, the most obvious difference being that it does not contain orange juice whereas "regular" Mountain Dew does.

      I'm fortunate to be able to visit a little Mexican shop downtown that, in addition to fresh tamales, has real Pepsi imported from south of the border. It comes in 16-ounce returnable bottles, and is exactly as I remember it being ~25 years ago.

    35. Re:No thanks. by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      It would be like worrying about what kind of oil is used to fry your french fries.

      Awesome analogy. If they were fried in vegetable fat they'd taste pretty good, in animal fat they'd be pretty horrid, motor oil and they'd be ineddible, and fried in peanut oil would result in death by aspyxiation due to an anaphylactic reaction.

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    36. Re:No thanks. by fatphil · · Score: 1

      > fried in vegetable fat they'd taste pretty good, in animal fat they'd be pretty horrid

      Why did McDonalds put relatively expensive (compared to the price of vegetable oils) extracts from animal fats in the "vegetable" oil they fried their chips in, if it wasn't for the fact that frying chips in animal fat makes them taste awesome?

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    37. Re:No thanks. by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Wake up refreshed from a good night's sleep; Prepare a nice breakfast consisting of lean high quality protein (3 egg omelet with a bunch of onions, peppers, tomatoes, olives, spinach, mushrooms, and a bit of diced ham, cooked with MINIMAL oil), and a nice chunk of cantaloupe or a bowl of berries (blueberries, strawberries, raspberries), and a big glass of cold water, plus some coffee or tea.

      Thanks -- it was much quicker to prepare than I expected (I was on time for work!)

      (2-egg omelette, half an onion, half a pepper, two brown mushrooms, olive oil; one large orange; water.)

  12. Breakfast Mt. Dew is Already Available by dopaz · · Score: 2

    I had one this morning, it says "diet mtn dew" on the can.

    Seriously though, it already tastes citrusy. Close enough for me.

    1. Re:Breakfast Mt. Dew is Already Available by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

      ^^^ IMHO, Diet Mtn Dew tastes BETTER than the regular version. I love Diet Mtn Dew, but if you gave me a choice between the regular version & Crystal Light (any flavor) reconstituted with charcoal-filtered piss, I'd probably grit my teeth and say "pass the piss".

      Actually, I kind of wish Diet Mtn Dew had about 2/3 the caffeine it does now... I wouldn't want it to be caffeine-free, but I could do without the tachycardia-inducing bulk quantity of caffeine it currently has.

    2. Re:Breakfast Mt. Dew is Already Available by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      but you need energy on your breakfast.

      they should just make it triple caffeinated and call it a day, geeks would go crazy.

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  13. Our consumers told us... by Ashenkase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    they are looking for an alternative to traditional morning beverages and newer, hip way of developing diabetes.

  14. Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by Kenshin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I was a kid I always enjoyed road trips to the US because of the wide variety of junk food available down there, but it's only recently dawned on me just how much junk food you guys actually consume.

    On a recent trip into New England I had to go to a supermarket, and it was pretty astounding when I actually stood back and noticed things. The section with 2L bottles of pop was at least twice the size of an equivalent Canadian supermarket, and the section with actual fruit juice was probably only a third of the size of one here, with not nearly as much variety.

    I mean, I love pop myself, but just how much of it do you guys drink down there? Is it served with every meal or something?

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    1. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by medcalf · · Score: 1

      Depends on where you are. The supermarket closest to me has three aisles of non-alcoholic beverages, one each of soda, juice and water/flavored water. But yeah, we eat a lot of junk food compared to most places.

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    2. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Every meal before lunch, after that I switch to beer.

      Of course I stick to the diet soda, no pop here.

    3. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by vlm · · Score: 1

      Is it served with every meal or something?

      Yeah either that or booze. Or both as in rum -n- coke, which I enjoy on rare occasions.

      I believe there is a constant quantity of junk food but the variety varies by decade. When I was a little kid we had a whole aisle of cake mixes and frostings, which has imploded down to maybe 15 lineal one sided feet and at most 10 different flavors of frosting. I was actually kinda depressed last time I wanted to bake a cake from a mix. I had to "settle" instead of picking what I wanted. The energy drink category and bottled water category have exploded in size since I was a kid. Also, tea. You couldn't buy canned/bottled tea when I was a kid, just poisonous tasting instant powder mix and bags. Now they've got looseleaf in the store, and an whole section of different types of bottled (heavily sugared) teas. Another category that's exploded: refrigerated ready to bake "stuff", when I was a kid they had ready to bake rolls in tubes and thats about it, there is now a 10 foot wide section of ready to bake cookies etc. We have almost nothing to chose from anymore WRT jerky and nuts, which is too bad because I like those snacks.

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    4. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by noc007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is it served with every meal or something?

      Pretty much yes. Buying a "meal", and I use that term loosely, from a fast food joint includes at least a 20floz cup. Going to a restaurant it's common for people to order a soda. I worked as a waiter a couple of times and over 70% of people order a soda. Though, at least 80% of those didn't get more than one refill.

      People wonder why they're fat.

    5. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by Kenshin · · Score: 1

      Whoever does the punching will get a very tired fist if he comes north of the border.

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    6. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by Kenshin · · Score: 1

      You may be confusing the line between "fruit juice" and "fruit drink" (there's a distinct and legal difference), but in any case, natural flavours and vitamins are certainly better for you than artificial flavours and artificial colourants if you're gonna drink something like that.

      The key is moderation, of course.

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    7. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by jcouvret · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This.

      I have lived in Australia and Germany and have traveled in other western countries, and the difference in food selection between other those countries and the United States is astounding. From granola to yogurt, breads to meat - it is difficult to find good foods in the US that are not overly processed. I'm 34, and it has changed quite a bit in my lifetime. Take yogurt for example, when I was a kid, yogurt tasted like yogurt - now the only national brand that even resembles yogurt is Activia. It's like food producers were forced to reintroduce real yogurt with active cultures because probiotics became popular. Everything else was milk with gelatin added to make it "yogurt".

      And I live southern California, where there is a decent market for quality food. I have recently been traveling to rural Maryland and Virginia for work - I doubt 5% of the food in those grocery stores needed to be chilled or frozen - it is almost all over-processed crap.

    8. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by SirGarlon · · Score: 2

      My impression is that soft drink and junk food consumption is inversely related to income. Older and more educated people pay more attention to health (and also tend to make more money). Younger and less educated people are more susceptible to the (very powerful) forces of marketing, which make sure to offer them a selection of very tasty junk food/beverages laden with sugar, fat, preservatives, etc.

      The movie "Super Size Me" provides a good introduction to the role marketing has in promoting less-healthful foods.

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    9. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      But junky food isn't even cheaper. Drinking pop might be cheaper than drinking fruit juice, but do you know what's even cheaper? Tap Water! I really don't get why there is such a big relation between eating unhealthy food and low incomes. It's almost as if their income isn't low enough, or they aren't educated to know which is really cheaper. Sure mechanically separated chicken nuggets aren't cheaper than boneless skinless chicken breasts, but they come out to quite a bit more than a whole chicken, of if you're feeling really cheap, chicken thighs.

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    10. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Though, at least 80% of those didn't get more than one refill.

      I must really be in the minority when I visit the US. I buy one 'soda', and far from having a refill, I tend to leave half of it behind. . .

      (20fl oz ~= 600mL; a standard can is 330mL and I feel that's a bit much. If I'm given a can and the waiter pours some of it into a glass, I often forget to pour out the rest.)

    11. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Though, at least 80% of those didn't get more than one refill.

      At first I thought you were saying they didn't get *any* refills. (Bad reading on my part.) Though it seems reasonable that most people don't get two refills.. Perhaps one to drink while they're eating and one fillup on the way out.

      Though I tend not to get a drink unless I have a "free combo" coupon or somesuch. For sit down restaurants, whether they have free refills or not is a determining factor whether I just get water or get a drink.

    12. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by Admiral_Grinder · · Score: 1

      I'm one of the types that drink only soda at restaurants. I find it to be more consistent, and tastier than water. Once in a while I'll order water if I'm having a beer or I really need it, but most of the time I find it undrinkable at most places. At home, I'll drink water by the gallon, I have really good water at home, straight from the tap at that.

    13. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Tastes fine to me. I quite like coke zero. I do not notice any repulsiveness.

      If I am feeling fancy I will get mexican coke to mix with rum.

    14. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by Kagato · · Score: 1

      The Anon OP is quite right. The things that make fruits healthy are the dietary fibers that are totally removed from most juices. While natural fruit sugars are digested in different ways from HFCS it's still essentially drinking sugar water. Now, if we're talking about some sort of smoothie where the all the fiber is intact more or less you might have a point.

      Mayo Clinic Recommends no more than 4 to 6 oz of 100% fruit juice for young children.

    15. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by Convector · · Score: 1

      I'm the same way. A standard (in the US) 20 oz bottle usually lasts me at least two meals. And I don't drink it every day, so it sometimes goes flat before I finish it. I did not feel well after the last time I drank the entire bottle at one sitting.

      I actually like those mini-cans you sometimes see with 7-8 oz. It's a total ripoff on price, but I'm more likely to actually finish it before it goes flat.

      But never for breakfast.

    16. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Fruit is better than fruit juice. That doesn't mean that the fruit juice is bad.

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    17. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Part of it is time and effort. I love to cook, but sometimes I don't have the time to do so. You can live reall cheaply if you cook, but poor people tend to have larger families, meaning they have to spend all of their time working and taking care of the kids. Junk food is cheap and pretty quick.

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    18. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      I mean, I love pop myself, but just how much of it do you guys drink down there?

      Actually, most of the people I know don't drink "pop.". We drink soda. Only midwesterners drink pop .

    19. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      Please remember that even the purest fruit juice is BAD for you. Taking in such a concentrated dose of 'natural' fructose will make you fat. Taking the juice without the fibre is only going to do damage in the end.

      Please take the time to watch: www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

      It will open your eyes.

    20. Re:Pop for breakfast? This is why you're fat. by n7ytd · · Score: 1

      The section with 2L bottles of pop was at least twice the size of an equivalent Canadian supermarket, and the section with actual fruit juice was probably only a third of the size of one here, with not nearly as much variety.

      I mean, I love pop myself, but just how much of it do you guys drink down there? Is it served with every meal or something?

      Lots of people will nurse a 1 liter or larger cup of soda most of the day. Aside from that, soda pop is hugely profitable, has a virtually unlimited shelf life, and needs no refrigeration. Fruit juice is opposite on all three points.

  15. It's got electrolytes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's what plants crave!

    1. Re:It's got electrolytes! by Raistlin77 · · Score: 1

      Aww, why anonymous? Would have been modded up instantly for Idiocracy reference!

  16. Just imagine by Lucas123 · · Score: 1

    The technology implications of this...

  17. Translation by LordLimecat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Our customers are looking for a way to start their day with yellow 5 and caffeine in the morning, and we've realized that giving it the veneer of health by throwing in some juice concentrate does the job well while also ratcheting up the sugar levels.

    For the consumer who wants to embrace a sugar-loaded diet and a diabetic lifestyle, Kickstart is exactly what theyre looking for.

  18. Ad? by BlkRb0t · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This story seems like an ad more than anything else. Just saying.

    1. Re:Ad? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      It certainly isn't News for Nerds.

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    2. Re:Ad? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Made me actually crave Mtn Dw.

      Gotta grab a bottle tomorrow.

  19. Mountain Dew or Crab Juice? by dav1dc · · Score: 2
  20. Brominated Vegetable Oil? by ruiner13 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Any word on if this stuff contains BVO like regular Mountain Dew? I would hope the answer is "no", but I've been wrong before.

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    1. Re:Brominated Vegetable Oil? by styrotech · · Score: 1

      Bromination?

      If I hadn't followed your link, I would've thought that was something the Pepsi marketing dept did to products to make the Mountain Dew drinking frat boy crowd buy it.

  21. Re:... another low? by YodasEvilTwin · · Score: 1

    There is a minifridge standard? Does Microsoft ignore it?

  22. I wonder when by Jmc23 · · Score: 1

    will people realize that a life that requires copious amounts of stimulants to maintain it, isn't really a life worth living.

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    1. Re:I wonder when by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      will people realize that a life that requires copious amounts of stimulants to maintain it, isn't really a life worth living.

      The code monkey who likes both Tab & Mountain Dew, has also got you covered.

      IMO, life is what you make of it. I may be shortening my lifespan by whipping myself into a caffeinated frenzy so that I can perform my 'day' job while also being an indie game dev 'by night' (those time cycles are actually reversed for me), and also having time left over for some semblance of social life; However, I know that when I look back at the years gone by, my confirmation bias will show me I wouldn't change a damn thing, not a one...

  23. Re:... another low? by vlm · · Score: 3, Funny

    Programmers too. A 36-pack precisely fits in a mini fridge.

    No coincidence. Real programmers (or at least real old programmers) program in 36 bits.

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  24. A thing of the past by Bender_ · · Score: 1

    Hey, I know Slashdot is somewhat retro, but this submission really seems like a thing of the past. You know, when we all were still 14 in 1998, when Slashdot was still the most awesome website on the interwebs? In 1998 I could still guzzle down a couple of cans of soda a day without worrying about my weight. But it is not 1998 any more and I am not 14 any more. I bet the average visitor of slashdot is in his thirties by now.

    So, who in their right mind is interesting in learning about drinking sugar-water in the morning, even if it is infused by fruit juice? How is it news that some obesity-spreading conglomerate is launching another attack on the nations health?

    Come on Slashdot. I have not complained for years, but WTF!

    1. Re:A thing of the past by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      It's probably fair to say a lot of younger people wouldn't be interested in this either. The times they are a'changing...

    2. Re:A thing of the past by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Apparently not this variety, but you can "still guzzle down a couple of cans of soda a day without worrying about my weight".. Just drink diet soda. There's a ton of different kinds nowadays.

    3. Re:A thing of the past by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      I, for one, was not 14 in 1998 - some of us remember the '70s

      If you can remember the '70s, you weren't enjoying them nearly enough.

  25. Coffee and OJ FTW by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    Real men just put OJ in their morning coffee

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    1. Re:Coffee and OJ FTW by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      Real men just put OJ in their morning coffee

      No, real men put OJ in their morning rum.

    2. Re:Coffee and OJ FTW by guttentag · · Score: 1

      Real men just put OJ in their morning coffee

      No, real men put OJ in their morning rum.

      No, real men drink "Jum." At least that's what Janitor says. "It's Jum and Tonic: Gin, Rum and Tonic. You can't get drunk on Jum, it's a breakfast liqueur." video here recipe here

    3. Re:Coffee and OJ FTW by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      Real men just put OJ in their morning coffee

      Close, but no cigar. A real man would eat Mr. Simpson for breakfast.

      If you get him in your coffee, you're just being sloppy... or way too kinky for my tastes.

  26. Don't Care by ilikenwf · · Score: 2

    I won't be satisfied until SURGE returns. http://fb.com/surgemovement has something like 14k members now, and a billboard outside the Coca-Cola HQ...here's hoping Coke listens and at least does a throwback.

    1. Re:Don't Care by turkeydance · · Score: 2

      Surge? Bring Back JOLT. "All the sugar and twice the caffeine."

    2. Re:Don't Care by synapse7 · · Score: 1

      I miss Mtn Dew game fuel.

    3. Re:Don't Care by Sedated2000 · · Score: 1

      You can still get it at the stores here in Virginia.

    4. Re:Don't Care by ab0mb88 · · Score: 1

      I still want my Josta back!

  27. Kick Start? (Naming Contest) by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

    I am still waiting for "Hitler did Nothing Wrong" Mountain Dew. (http://readwrite.com/files/files/fields/dub%2520the%2520dew.jpg)

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  28. calories by aahpandasrun · · Score: 1

    I'm sure it's going to be something like 200 calories per serving, 2.5 servings per can. What a way to start the day!

  29. Re:... another low? by vuke69 · · Score: 2

    It couldn't truly be considered a standard if Microsoft didn't ignore it.

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  30. Re:mm by X0563511 · · Score: 2

    Shredded coconut? Coconut water? Coconut milk? Coconut cream?

    I'd like to try, but can you be more specific?

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  31. For Christ's sake by OldSport · · Score: 1

    Just drink some tea or something, for God's sake. Or just have a healthier diet overall, and then you won't need a "kick" in the morning. Sometimes I can't fathom the kind of crap people gleefully dump down their gullets.

  32. PepsiCo is not the company I want to tell this by houghi · · Score: 2

    PepsiCo is not the company I am interested in hearing this from. Please let me know when AB-InBev has a new beverage for breakfast.

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    1. Re:PepsiCo is not the company I want to tell this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't you already have access to tap water?

    2. Re:PepsiCo is not the company I want to tell this by De+Lemming · · Score: 2

      Kriek has fruits in it :-)

      (Belle Vue is actually one of the worst brands of lambic beers, try Cantillon, 3 Fonteinen, Boon or Lindemans. And no, I don't suggest you drink it for breakfast :-)

  33. Re:Consumers by Gertlex · · Score: 1

    Your consumers don't drink "traditional morning beverages."

    Mt. Dew takes like what I imagine fermented piss would taste like.

    Yup, the taste of fermented piss without the smell!

  34. whadda about Coke, huh? by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Coke will no longer be the breakfast of champions?

  35. Re:... another low? by mspohr · · Score: 1

    A classic 36 bit computer:
    http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/dec20.html

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  36. Water? by Andrio · · Score: 1

    How about starting the day with a big glass of water? Your body just spent all night repairing/performing maintenance, and it would really appreciate having the water it used (that stuff you peed out first thing after wakingup) replenished. Certainly more so than dehydrating beverages such as coffee and sugary juices.

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  37. Go Go Juice! by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 1

    Now all we need is for Chef Boyardee to start selling Sketti.

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  38. Re:two words by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Yep.

    Lemme guess, 2nd or 3rd ingredient listed on the label is gonna be HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup)??

    Ah...nothing like a little boost to the old obesity rate.

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  39. Mountain Dew for Breakfast by gravis777 · · Score: 1

    I got a Mountain Dew for breakfast this morning, because the coffee just wasn't doing the trick today. Under ingrediants: Carbonated Water, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Orange Juice.

    We also already have Throwback, diet versions (doesn't that defeat the purpose of Mountain Dew?), Code Red, Live Wire, and those weird flavors you can only get at Taco Bell. Mountain Dew also has an Engergy Drink line.

    A Breakfast Mountain Dew? Last I checked, it already exists. Just call it what it is - a new Mountain Dew flavor.

    1. Re:Mountain Dew for Breakfast by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      I know the feeling, bro! I got some meth for breakfast this morning, because caffeine just wasn't doing the trick today!

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  40. Re:... another low? by gravis777 · · Score: 1

    Ah, those 9-core Ataris! Super Custer's Revenge! Now with more pixels!

  41. Exactly by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    Who cares about this press release. The ads on slashdot should stay in the designated adspace.

  42. Well that's stupid by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Well, what about a caffeine ban only for children under 18?

    Why regulate any food for kids under 18? They have metabolisms that can handle anything you chuck in there.

    If you're going to go full nanny, start taking away stuff from people as they get older.

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    1. Re:Well that's stupid by hot+soldering+iron · · Score: 1

      Problem with that is that older people can fight back. And WIN!

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    2. Re:Well that's stupid by leenks · · Score: 1

      Hell, give them alcohol and crack then, too?

  43. Re:two words by sunderland56 · · Score: 2

    Even in current Mountain Dew, HFCS is #2, and orange juice is #3.

    So if Mountain Dew is already highly sugared and caffeinated orange juice, how is the new product any different?

  44. Re:mm by sunderland56 · · Score: 5, Funny

    coconut juice is orgasmic.

    Coconut juice might look orgasmic, but in reality it comes from coconuts.

  45. Re:two words by mattack2 · · Score: 1

    I hope they make a diet version (or "light", since the probably-miniscule amount of fruit juice they put in would still have sugar in it naturally). If so, I'll at least try it. Diet Mt. Dew was the first good tasting diet soda.

  46. Even better: Founders Breakfast Stout by Beeftopia · · Score: 1

    8.3 percent alcohol by volume.

    Need to get an early start if you expect to stay drunk all day long.

    1. Re:Even better: Founders Breakfast Stout by OldSport · · Score: 1

      I have this with breakfast now and then. When all is said and done, it's probably a lot healthier for you than most of the commercially-available breakfast options out there.

  47. Re:two words by kiddygrinder · · Score: 1

    there is no way they'll depend only on that amount of sugar, at the very least they'll pack it full of artificial sweeteners.

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  48. Re:been making these by guttentag · · Score: 1

    Mod parent up. I've noticed signs for this at my local Taco Bell drive-through for a while.

  49. Not Google Translation by rueger · · Score: 1

    Our consumers told us they are looking for an alternative to traditional morning beverages

    "You idiots keep on drinking coffee, tea, or water in the morning, which gives us no profit! So yet again we'll try to sell you on soda pop for breakfast...."

    What is this? The third or fourth time they've tried this? I'm waiting for the Pepsi as a bed time drink on your night table....

    1. Re:Not Google Translation by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      Hah, Google already had a Klingon option, they should definitely add a Marketroid Bullshit dialect as well.

  50. I turned on Disable Advertising by 2phar · · Score: 2

    but this 'story' still came up. Idle really was the beginning of the end.

  51. What?!? by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

    You mean, Mt. Dew wasn't ALREADY a breakfast drink???

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    1. Re:What?!? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      You mean, Mt. Dew wasn't ALREADY a breakfast drink???

      If you stay up late enough on it, this becomes a matter of semantics.

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  52. Keep it by orthancstone · · Score: 1

    Give me Brawndo instead.

  53. Re:Consumers by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    Mt. Dew takes like what I imagine fermented piss would taste like.

    I've tried both. Mt. Dew actually tastes slightly better.

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  54. Heck No! by avandesande · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't want to dilute the pot of coffee I down before leaving the house.

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  55. Re:mm by martinX · · Score: 1

    You pour it into the coconut and drink it from the coconut with a straw. It makes you feel like you're on vacation. When you've finished a lovely bunch of them, you can construct a radio from them.

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  56. Soda with every meal ... etc. etc. by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    I remember growing up in the 70's and 80's, it was really common for kids to make regular trips on their bicycles or on foot to the nearest 7-11, grocery store or dime/drug store and buy candy as snacks. Most of it was cheap, and it was just sort of "the thing to do" as a kid to spend a little bit of your allowance money or spare change you found.

    I don't think I really fit the profile though, because my mom was a registered nurse and really paranoid about controlling what we ate. Unlike most of my peers, I never had snacks between meals and I practically never wanted to spend any of my money on candy. On the other hand, both of my parents were oddly ok with eating dessert after dinner as a ritual every night, so I got my share of "junk food" that way (as long as I ate my other food first, since that was the rule).

    I recall getting soda most times when we went out someplace to eat, but that was the exception to the rule. At home, we had 2% or skim milk for lunch or dinner pretty much every time (and orange juice for breakfast).

    These days as an adult? I rarely drink milk because frankly, I'm so sick and tired of having had it with meals every frickin' day of my life growing up.... I do drink a lot of soda, although the rest of my family tries harder than me to avoid it. Sometimes I have some apple or grape or cranberry juice with dinner, or sometimes just a glass of water. But yeah,a glass of soda just as often.

    It seems like the younger people, today, are far more interested in the energy drinks and sports drinks than the carbonated sodas .... but I question whether that's really any more healthy? There seem to be an awful lot of side effects showing up from the energy drinks, and some of the sports drinks are filled with chemicals that may or may not really be so good to consume in very large quantities.

    Meanwhile, the teenagers and 20-somethings I knew who really drank a LOT of soda? They actually weren't, by and large, among the overweight/obese people I knew. I think the truth is, a lot of people realize such things are a "vice" of theirs, so they compensate by trying to eat or behave more healthy in other respects to offset extra "empty calories" of soda.

  57. Alternative to morning beverages? by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 1

    Really? I can't be the only one who uses whatever the hell I want--Coke, Mountain Dew, you name it--as a morning beverage. With caffeine, it even has an effect similar to coffee. Why the hell is something like this needed?

  58. Re:two words by mattack2 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I just meant calorie wise. I don't care about artificial sweeteners. They're what make diet mt dew taste good.

  59. Re:two words by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    Yep.

    Lemme guess, 2nd or 3rd ingredient listed on the label is gonna be HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup)??

    Ah...nothing like a little boost to the old obesity rate.

    Yup. Watch this presentation Sugar: The Bitter Truth (or on the UCSF site http://www.uctv.tv/shows/Sugar-The-Bitter-Truth-16717) by Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology.

    It's over an hour long and he explores the damage caused by sugary foods. He argues that fructose (too much) and fiber (not enough) appear to be cornerstones of the obesity epidemic through their effects on insulin. Fructose gets metabolized in the liver like alcohol, but with some nasty hormonal and cholesterol-raising side-effects.

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  60. Cereal by chakan2 · · Score: 1

    I just want to know how this will taste on coco-puffs.

  61. Re:two words by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

    You may also want to see Fat Head. It's on Netflix. He makes the argument that the reason that people gain weight is by having too much carbohydrates (which the body is exceptionally good at turning into glucose), and that we should be eating a higher fat diet. He then proves the point by eating nothing but fast food for a month and losing weight, by restricting his caloric intake, avoiding foods that tell the body to store fat (carbs), and getting a reasonable amount of exercise.

    Basically the same point... carbs trigger the insulin response, which tells the fat cells to start storing fat. Even if you're getting 1000 calories less than you should be, you won't lose as much weight as expected (and may not lose weight at all) because carbs tell the body to store fat.

  62. They already tried something similar.... by sudden.zero · · Score: 1

    ...under their amp energy drink line it was called energy juice see here. I loved the stuff but it didn't sell well enough for them so they axed it. I wish they would just bring energy juice back because it was awesome!

  63. As a dentist who treats patients with Mt. Dew by mark_reh · · Score: 5, Informative

    mouth on a regular basis, all I can say is there should be warning labels on all fizzy beverage containers. For some reason there are a lot of stupid people in the world who think that drinking soda all day long is OK, even as they look in a mirror and see their teeth turning black.

    One recent patient, a 28 YO female, who will probably be in complete dentures within 5 years, told me she cut back from 3 six packs of the Dew per day to only one because her physician told her it was wrecking her teeth and making her fat. By the time she got to me I had to extract 8 of her remaining teeth and fit her for partial dentures. She reported that her teeth didn't start hurting until just before she came to see me in spite of the fact that 3 of her teeth had no clinical crowns left at all (they were rotted down to the gum line).

    The combination of acid and sugar is the worst thing for your teeth, and generally not good for your body either.

    Drink water.

    1. Re:As a dentist who treats patients with Mt. Dew by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      yeah, bathing one's teeth in it all day can't be good, especially since most people don't brush during the middle of the day, so the food and drink residue just sits there.
      However, I figure that person has more problems than just that, I bet they don't even brush morning and/or evening.
      Summer 2011, I often fell asleep without brushing, and had 10+ cavities by fall. That's bad, but the teeth were/are still there, so I figure that person was behaving worse than I did for longer than I did.

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    2. Re:As a dentist who treats patients with Mt. Dew by AaronLawrence · · Score: 1

      But in addition to that, if you drank that one soda fairly quickly, it won't do a lot of harm to your teeth; if you sip it all day it will be terrible...

      So I think one soda, drunk in a few minutes, would probably be fine.

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  64. Re:Why? by sudden.zero · · Score: 1

    Again, welcome to Slashdot run by Dice!

  65. Actually Makes Sense by RedHackTea · · Score: 1

    Ever heard of Morning Dew? Now we just need one for toilet dew... Chocolate Mountain Dew!

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  66. Not true of the Dew by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    To me, it exists in the class of "utility drinks". That is, drinks you don't consume because you like the taste or are thirsty, but drinks you consume for some specific purpose.

    I used to drink two-liter bottles of Mtn Dew at a time. Not because I wanted or cared for the caffeine, but I really did like the taste far more than any other soda.

    I don't really drink soda any more but I still have some Mtn Dew from time to time just because I like the flavor.

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    1. Re:Not true of the Dew by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      I don't really drink soda any more but I still have some Mtn Dew from time to time just because I like the flavor.

      So they are using drones and offering a million dollar reward to catch Chris Dorner, but people like you are allowed to walk the street? I never knew America's priorities were so far out of whack.

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    2. Re:Not true of the Dew by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      So they are using drones and offering a million dollar reward to catch Chris Dorner, but people like you are allowed to walk the street?

      Just try to stop a Mountain Dew drinker. I dare ya.

      It's not a matter of what THEY allow, it's a matter of what Dew drinkers allow.

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    3. Re:Not true of the Dew by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      So they are using drones and offering a million dollar reward to catch Chris Dorner, but people like you are allowed to walk the street?

      Just try to stop a Mountain Dew drinker. I dare ya.

      It's not a matter of what THEY allow, it's a matter of what Dew drinkers allow.

      Try to stop one? I'd rather play catch with a rabid badger.

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    4. Re:Not true of the Dew by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Try to stop one? I'd rather play catch with a rabid badger.

      And there you go, exactly why we are free to walk the earth and Dew as we will.

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  67. Re:two words by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    I've heard those points you make and believe they're probably correct. The main problem with fructose is that it is *only* metabolized in the liver, whereas glucose can be metabolized by every cell in the body. Furthermore, fructose is metabolized very much like alcohol, but also raises bad cholesterol and does some other nasty things. The video has a very detailed and informative explanation of how glucose, fructose and alcohol are metabolized. Increased fiber helps mitigate the bad effects.

    While it's long and very detailed in places, I can't recommend the video highly enough. Definitely made me (almost) completely eliminate my soda consumption - one a day two years ago, to one every couple of weeks (or fewer) now. I experimented last year and only had about five sodas the entire year.

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  68. Missing something by astro · · Score: 1

    Add vodka, and we're in business. Breakfast of, uh, champions.

  69. Re:two words by LordLucless · · Score: 1

    How does he eat fast food without getting overloaded on carbs? Around here, fast food is pretty much chips (fries for you Americans), burgers, pizza and battered meat - all carbs-heavy.

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  70. Re:two words by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

    You can ask him for his food diary, if you like. The contact link is on the website I linked.

    In short, he had diet soda, iced tea, or water for every drink, and that was about it. He was shown eating the bun on his hamburger in many shots during the film, so I don't think he even tried ordering meals without the bun (which most fast food restaurants will do if you ask for it).

    He probably did avoid the chips, but I don't know for sure. I haven't read the food diary. But as carbs go, chips and crisps are actually pretty good for you, because they have a lower glycemic index than other more processed carbs.

  71. Re:two words by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

    Yes because the pile of chemicals that make up artificial sweetners is so much better than the HFCS. This is why I prefer to drink the "throw back" drinks when I can get them or good old fashioned home brewed sweet tea if I can't, you don't seem to need nearly as much sugar as you do HFCS to get the same taste in a drink.

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  72. Re:two words by mattack2 · · Score: 1

    It is certainly "better" in that I'm not drinking several hundred calories (in multiple cans' worth) of empty calories a day.

    Yes, I know there are some studies that claim that diet sodas can make you eat more. At least for me, it was an easy way to cut out lots of empty calories (even though I eat other junk food).

  73. stupid government regulation by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    drinking caffeine-free Mountain Dew is like going to a prostitute for a hug

    PS
    I feel regular Dew is too sweet even compared to other regular sodas and diet Dew doesn't taste as good as other diet sodas. I drink diet cola or take caffeine pills.

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  74. Re:mm by gmhowell · · Score: 1

    You put the lime in the coconut and you drink them both up.

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  75. Re:two words by thereitis · · Score: 1

    I've given up sugary drinks and diet drinks. Neither are good for you. Carbonated water (and optionally a bit of fruit juice for flavouring) satisfies my bubbly drink cravings these days.

  76. Re:two words by hazem · · Score: 1

    It probably has just enough fruit juice to get around school districts and states that prohibit sodas but allow fruit juice in schools.

  77. Juice. Fizz. Bottle. by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

    Is there any company making actual carbonated fruit-juice?

    (Ideally carbonated caffeinated fruit juice. But I'm just asking.)

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    1. Re:Juice. Fizz. Bottle. by fatphil · · Score: 1

      Nowadays it's pretty crap, but there's always Orangina.

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  78. Re:two words by jrumney · · Score: 1

    So if Mountain Dew is already highly sugared and caffeinated orange juice, how is the new product any different?

    This version is the highly sugared and caffeinated unspecified fruit juice product.

  79. Re:two words by xenobyte · · Score: 1

    How to lose weight... There are obviously many ways (and many endless detours) but here's my experiences.

    1) Diet drinks don't work; they actually made it worse. When I started trying to lose weight I was 115 kg and after a year on diet sodas only I had gained 10-15 kg!
    2) Eating less works far better than eating low-fat. Carbs, fat... all is good in decent amounts. Eat more smaller portions.
    3) Water is good, really good. When you're really thirsty, drink (lots of) water, not sodas. Most people tend to drink too small amounts of water, even including sodas and what's in the food.
    4) Sugar-sodas are fine for recreational purposes.
    5) Supplement with the greens you like. Avoid oily dressings but salt & pepper is okay.

    My results:

    November 2011: 145 kg
    November 2012: 103 kg
    February 2013: 96 kg.

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  80. Rare Auld Mountain Dew by Novogrudok · · Score: 1

    As advertised by The Dubliners @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-slbQajQMoY ? Sure, lad, tis a grand way to kickstart a day!

  81. Re:two words by fatphil · · Score: 1

    Thank you both for those links, I shall watch them both with interest. While downloading /Sugar: The Bitter Truth/ for later viewing, I watched /How Bad Science and Big Business Created the Obesity Epidemic/
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vr-c8GeT34
    which was equally fascinating a thesis, and delivered exactly what it promised. It's shocking that the lies and corruption run so deep.

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  82. Re:two words by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
    Hmm.

    Ever considered drinking...er.....water?

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  83. Re:two words by mattack2 · · Score: 1

    Yes, I drink lots of (tap) water too.