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Edward Snowden Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize
An anonymous reader writes "A Swedish professor of sociology has nominated Snowden for the 2014 Nobel Peace Prize. Giving him the prize would also 'save the Nobel Peace Prize from the disrepute that incurred by the hasty and ill-conceived decision to award U.S. President Barack Obama' the prize, according to professor Stefan Svallfors. He notes ultimately that at great personal cost, 'Edward Snowden has helped to make the world a little bit better and safer.'"
Yeah, bring another shit storm to Norway..
a good idea. This would send a positive message to arrogant governments everywhere.
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This man not only revealed a not-technically illegal surveillance program, he told other countries we were spying on them and revealed details about programs that aren't covered by any Consitutional protection. May as well go back and award the Peace Prize to the Rosenbergs because they helped make sure other countries had the bomb.
Adolf Hitler was nominated for the Peace Prize in 1939.
Henry Kissinger got the Nobel Peace Prize for bombing the shit out of Vietnam and Cambodia.
Obama got the Peace Prize doing sweet FA.
The fact that somebody was either nominated for the Peace Prize, or actually won it, does not actually mean much.
I'm still ambivalent about the Snowden case, as I believe many still are. So we're going to compensate the rush to give the award to Obama by rushing to give it to Snowden?
In the words of Valentine Michael Smith, "Waiting is."
" 'save the Nobel Peace Prize from the disrepute that incurred by the hasty and ill-conceived decision to award U.S. President Barack Obama' "
No, it won't.
You're far, far too late on that one.
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Hallelujah! Arrest that turrorist Snowden! God bless the Republican Party!!1
But take back Obama's to give Snowden.
hasty and ill-conceived decision to award U.S. President Barack Obama
Because this isn't hasty orill-conceived. This does prove, however, that the Nobel Peace Prize is designed to be awarded to whomever is popular in the news currently before the public forgets them and moves on to the next disaster. Who is next for the Nobel PP? Trayvon Martin? Or is that story already run its course since the trial is over?
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Actually be responsible for bringing peace to the world? Barack Obama didn't do anything to promote peace when he first took office, and Snowden hasn't done anything "yet" to promote peace either. Nothing saying that what he did might not later, but should we not at least wait to see how the drama unfolds first before we award the medal?
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Edward Snowen is a hero to US and to the World. Revealing that tyranny governments are spying and controlling peoples life, running the risk of being killed it's an act of courage. He gave up his comfortable life with a good salary on Hawaii and a relationship with a beautiful woman to prove to us that we are being watched illegally. Edward Snowen deserve support of all US citizens and the world. He is not a traitor, traitor is the politician who use it's power to do illegal action against citizens of their nation and the rest of the world. Those politician who allowed this crime to happen. Are who must be judged and arrest for a treason.
I understand that many might not approve of spying and the NSA, but Snowden was a professional working for them via the contractor Booz Allen. Everyone knows what the NSA is about, but Snowden takes the operational details of the programs and gives them the Russians and Chinese.
Subject-line above = fact. Change the rules? Then, what good ARE rules for if you do?? Nobody can be trusted with that kind of power - period. Nobody. That, is the problem: Absolute Power Corrupting Absolutely. Your "it's legal" bullshit doesn't stand up when the people of the USA didn't have ANY SAY WHATSOEVER in its alleged/supposed "legality" when WE are the employers of those people. They are not our masters. They should do what WE say, not the other way around. You have it ALL FUCKED UP if you think otherwise.
>incurred by the hasty and ill-conceived decision to award U.S. President Barack Obama'
What saved them from the disrepute of giving it to Kissinger & Arafat? Forgetfulness?
Someone should give Obama the "best arming of rebels" award now too just to really rub in how stupid that decision was. Foreigners need to keep their opinions and million dollar prizes out of our elections. Snowden, however, should get one. Well, except that he probably worsened foreign relationships and might actually cause a war. But just on merit, why not?
Lets give a guy who wanted his 15 minutes of fame, the nobel prize for getting it. /smh
It will not stop exposed organized crime from hunting him down. Just look what these arrogant pricks do. They don't respond to anyone, they think laws don't apply to them, they own the media.
We can just expect another round of denials by criminals caught in act. They have too much to lose.
I have bad news for you about that "treason" term you throw around so casually. If you read the _whole_ Constitution instead of just the fashionable parts, you'll find that treason has a very specific definition in Article 3, Section 3. While I agree that the NSA programs are illegal, "the people" {{which ones?}} at NSA didn't meet the definition of treason. Not even close.
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it triggers an actual war somewhere. Stranger things have happened in history.
The world isn't better or safer because of what he's done - it might be one day, but for now we're just slightly better informed.
If there was a Nobel prize for good intentions, sure, give him that.
And let's not forget, Snowden didn't do this in the name of safety (certainly not his own). He did it in the name of liberty.
Still, he deserves it a lot more than some.
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It's been almost 24 hours and except RT and DailyMail, rest of propaganda outlets keep the news out of the stream.
It sounds like this is the "I'm not Obama" award, counterpart to the "I'm not Bush" award that Obama was given. I saw this coming a mile away. The Peace Prize has been a joke for years.
the Peace Prize shall be awarded to the person who "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.
Seems that all he has done is piss off the government and some of it's people for one nation.
Even better, impeach Obama give Snowden the Presidency, then you'll have a president that ACTUALLY UPHOLDS THE CONSTITUTION.
It sure made me laugh.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Literally thousands of people are nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize every year. Nominating just means someone has sent in a letter suggesting them. Nomination is not in any way noteworthy.
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Oh, Christ... is Svallfors still going on about the President's NPP? Let it go, man... it's 2013... just let it fucking go...
Snowden should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize because absolutely nobody would of even suspected the NSA of spying on the internet and requesting communications corporations to hand over their logs. Nor would anyone ever suspect said corporations from handing their logs over to a powerful government agency. That is, until Snowden came along...
Who knew that being a redneck with a pole-dancing girl friend that exaggerates his role in the NSA and spews out "secrets" that was pretty much already known in the press would get you nominated for a Nobel peace prize? It seems all those other people who actually placed their life at risk to make a change in their corner of the world was doing it wrong.
All you really need to do is personify some controversy by becoming a celebrity.
Giving him the prize would also 'save the Nobel Peace Prize from the disrepute that incurred by the hasty and ill-conceived decision to award U.S. President Barack Obama' the prize, according to professor Stefan Svallfors
Save the Nobel Peace Prize from disrepute? Too little too late dumbass. To the Stefan Svallfors of the world, where the hell were you when the Nobel Prize was given to Arafat and Rabin, when it was given to Al Gore over Irena Sendler, or when it was never given to Gandhi?
Svallfor's motion has nothing to do with reputation or morality. It's about political posturing. I'm sure and certain that there are people other than Snowden more deserving of an actual peace price that actually matters. I mean, Snowden was more than willing to go on asylum in Venezuela or Cuba, hardly bastions of democracy and decency. People deserving of a true peace price (Gandhi for instance) would never had contemplated such a cognitive dissonant option, regardless of consequences.
Good thing the Nobel peace prize lost most of its credibility when it was awarded to Obama just for winning an election, otherwise this would be a huge setback. Instead its just more of the same, a member of the nominating committee making some political statement.
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Yes, I think we should urinate all over Norway.. LOL, figuratively speaking. Let's face it when Obama received the Nobel price, it was a true WTF moment.
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What's he done so far? I mean, to receive this honor, don't you actually need to do something, say actions which promotes world peace? All he's done, so far is instigated trouble. None of this yet has done anything towards world peace. World unease, perhaps, world friction, sure, but nothing about peace. Someone is jumping the gun here.
Beats the hell out the the alternatives the Republitarians were putting forth.
Or perhaps you're forgetting McCain/Palin and Romney/Ryan. And the alternative Ron Paul was even worse.
I know about the Physics one, not much about the rest:
1) In 2009 it was given to 2 guys from Bell Labs put pressure on Alcatel and prevent them from closing down the labs.
2) in 2008 it was given to 3 people who worked on stuff that was supposed to get tested at the Large Hadron Collider as a last resort to put pressure on politicians and prevent them from shutting it down.
3) In 2004 it was given to 3 guys who again worked on LHC-related stuff. The LHC was supposed to start running that year, but we all know that it went over budget and 5 years late.
So at least one of the science prizes is used simply as a plug for funding holes.
"Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government; when this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved, and tyranny is erected on its ruins. Republics and limited monarchies derive their strength and vigor from a popular examination into the action of the magistrates.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Maybe the PATRIOT ACT has made you think these kinds of writings are particularly unamerican? Or you could just accept the fact that Snowden's acts are just as american as were the actions of founding fathers of the United States; who were also temporarily considered traitors.
...and I'm sure, all over the world, Edward Snowden has a higher approval rating than NSA.
Also consider that now Snowden has higher approval rating than... US Congress and Barack Obama
Now, how were you supposed "to institute a new Government"? Oh you can't. And if you'd even become interested about it the government would know about it; thanks to PRISM.
"whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
I think Snowden is well worth one Nobel Peace Prize.
Engage in espionage, get a peace price. Fuck Edward Snowden and the douche Greenwald who set him on his course. I hope their idiot supporters wise up soon.
These wars are nothing to do with religion, or terror, drugs or anything else.
These wars are waged (not fought, or even usually declared) because there is a mentality that says the US always has to be fighting "the last war", because they're "the good guys", and for some reason the "end of days" is in their hands. The US is incapable of functioning in the absence of a state of war.
Well, I have news: Lots of Muslims are good guys too. And Vietnamese. And Cambodians. And Russians. Even Americans (excluding American politicians generally).
So we're going to follow it up with another hasty and ill-conceived decision.
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"...at great personal cost, 'Edward Snowden has helped to make the world a little bit better and safer.'"
So what. Malala Yousufsai was shot in the head for daring to go to school. She deserves the prize for herself and the rest of the women in the world. Snowden just uncovered a rock and found scum.
And I nominate the people who awarded the Nobel Peace Price to Obama for the Ignoble peace price.
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Snowden is fine and well, but I want to see the prize go to Malala Yousafzai. If you aren't familiar with her, she's the girl who recently spoke before the UN about education. She's also the girl who was shot in the head by the Taliban for going to school and insisting she would go even if she had to sit on the floor.
In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
Maybe Obama could return his prize and give it to Snowden. He's obviously not deserving of it.
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One thing I do think has been helpful is that the current debates have broken across once impenetrable ideological boundaries; people usually on opposite sides of the political divide are finding themselves agreeing with each other. It's forcing people on all sides to focus on the facts and issues rather than cling to ideology..
Instead of Democrat vs Republican, it is now Government vs The People. Isn't it nice how an adversarial government unites us?
I would think there is a young girl, who despite being shot in the head, refused to stop reading and learning, that might be doing just a little bit more to make the world better. I'm sure the list could go on.
Just want to point out that most of the comments here are comparing this to Obama's award. Snowden has been NOMINATED but not awarded. It turns out a fairly large number of people have the ability to nominate recipients: http://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/index.html
This really isn't news. It's more comment trolling by slashdot -- and they've been doing a very good job of it lately.
Adolf Hitler was nominated once in 1939. Incredulous though it may seem today, the Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939, by a member of the Swedish parliament, an E.G.C. Brandt. Apparently though, Brandt never intended the nomination to be taken seriously. Brandt was to all intents and purposes a dedicated antifascist, and had intended this nomination more as a satiric criticism of the current political debate in Sweden. ( At the time, a number of Swedish parliamentarians had nominated then British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlin for the Nobel Peace Prize, a nomination which Brandt viewed with great skepticism. ) However, Brandt's satirical intentions were not well received at all and the nomination was swiftly withdrawn in a letter dated 1 February 1939.
... is to give spying on americans by the governemnt more room to do so. For now the excuse can be used that americans all didn't speak up about it enough and as such its acceptable.
Its the political mentality of one person uses a gun and all citizens have to be restricted in gun use, but when the government does more than that one person it requires all citizens to oppose for something to be done in corr3ection.
Huge unfair bias happening here benefiting only the political direction, not the peoples direction.
Any assertions that so-and-so "has been nominated for a Nobel prize" are unverifiable. Anyone can claim to have nominated anyone, but there's not way to know if they're telling the truth, because nominations can be made only by nominators invited by the Nobel committee, and the identity of the nominators and their nominations are kept secret for fifty years. See Nomination FAQ:
"Q: Has X been nominated as a candidate for the Nobel Prize?
A: Information about the nominations, investigations, and opinions concerning the award is kept secret for fifty years.
Q: What about the rumours circling around the world about certain people being nominated for the Nobel Prize this year?
A: Well, either it's just a rumour, or someone among the invited nominators has leaked information. Since the nominations are kept secret for 50 years, you'll have to wait until then to find out."
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Snowden leaks had zero utility and zero consquences yet. Assange is still waiting his for being harassed for doign a journalist's job.
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Obama vs Snowden, with music from frankie goes to hollywood.
They just try to lure him to Sweden. Assange does not recommend that trip.
Nah... no agenda there.
NSA/IRS = gov't. employees, (servants not masters) albeit, employees that *think* they can just "do what they want". I'll let THEM speak via their actions/reactions: They're telling us all "fuck you, we will do what we want, and if you get outta line, we will sick our IRS attack dogs on you or dig for dirt and 'reinterpret' laws to get you for opening your mouth against us" or did the IRS not abuse their powers in that very capacity and get caught in it? Yes, they did. Did Keith Alexander or James Clapper lie to Congress?? Absolutely. Can anyone trust a known liar? No. Are they out of a job or in jail for it??? HELL NO. Now, if it was you or me, we would be. That tell you anything???? The problem is giving ANYONE that much power. It goes to people's heads. Even the "good guys" (who are showing you they are NOT 'so good' even outright LYING about it, twisting words/terms to do so, & using "secret courts" in a presidency that CLAIMED 'transparency'? The only transparency I see, is corruption being transparently obvious, doing what THEY want, not what you or I wanted). In fact, I think it goes MUCH HIGHER than the boys @ the NSA, right up into the presidency - which is WHY nobody is out of a job or in jail - they probably said "IF I go down? So will those of you that gave the orders for me to do such a thing: You are going down with me - so try it: I'll bury you along with me!" (By turning 'whistleblower' on their TRUE masters too - it's in a rat's character to do so, and to even work for people like that, means you ARE such a RAT - which IS exactly what will happen. I know that type unfortunately.). Bottom line is the NSA is not supposed to surveil US citizens by their very charter's original parameters/limitations/scope. Changing the rules? What is the POINT of rules & law then? Zero. When those that supposedly enforce them change them to THEIR liking? They're not rules or laws. They're bullshit. The FBI is legally granted such powers, not the NSA! They are though, with impunity. It is not in their charter to do so, we had NO say in this change. It was done in secret. No secret anymore though and people do not like it. Is anything being done to correct it? Again, no. We are fucked. We have no control anymore, as "We the People". Period. They don't obey their employers (us), and don't even consult us. Change the rules?? That's BULLSHIT! That is exactly what it is telling me. How about you? If you give any man nigh unlimited power, he'll abuse it (or hasn't THAT already been shown as the case here? IRS anyone?? The fact nothing's been done about it is just another...). Nobody in their right minds would agree to this horsecrap, which is WHY it was done "in secret" and they tip their hand how they use it and things like it (especially the IRS shenanigan, & the head of the IRS didn't even lose her job over it either... wtf!). This is pure common-sense and it is obvious they are out of control. When employees start that up, the "boss" is no longer in charge. Changing the rules and not consulting "we the people" those civil servants work for shows you just what is what/going on. Period. We the people are being told "shut up slaves, we do what WE want to" and we can even LIE TO CONGRESS and get away with it. We the "elite" are above puny laws meant for you puny SLAVES! Even the "special license plates" scam came out yesterday too proving that, all the more http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/07/14/1553218/database-loophole-lets-legislators-avoid-photo-radar-tickets Better wise up AMERIKA, before it's too late. The more "the powers that be" REACT (especially bogusly like the IRS deal), they more they tip their hands as to who really runs the show (and it's NOT "We the People") and how they TRULY operate. We are in the clutches of the biggest clique of criminals there's ever been (most = masons or religious
Wikipedia lists 31 wars. The US was involved in two of them, Iraq and Somalia. We had major combat involvement in Somalia long after it had been started by others.
This seems a perfect article to get lots of heated posts.
It makes Snowden seem larger than life, and disses Obama all at the same time. It's almost equal opportunity outrage.
If it had something about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin it'd be perfect.
it was on NPR this morning that Snowden has a lot more critical information than has been released. Now, why do you think government goons would mention that in the mainstream media, while he is in Russia?
It's clear from the mass coverage that Snowden is a plant, and now Obama promotes him even more... Trying to get the east to nibble on the bait.
But I love the idea.
And you get a positive.
And actually, two wrongs do often make a right. It's all in the eyes of the beholder as to who or what was wrong. Our Founding Father's were considered by the British to be acting upon wrong, by engaging in wrong.
We exist today as a nation for that reason.
If you think what he did was bad, then he's a traitor to his country. If you think what he did was good, then he's a traitor to his government and a hero to his country. I think a lot of peoples' opinions on the good/bad question are going to correspond with their opinion about whether or not the country and the government are on the same side.
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I predict he will win the Nobel Peace Prize.
I also predict that for the first time ever, the awards ceremony will be held on U.S. soil, and they will be enforcing the 'winners must be present to claim prize' clause.
This is major reason why the NSAs unchecked power is so dangerous. Who have more secrets, dirt, and skeletons than US politicians? IMHO, this is why both parties and the White House so understatedly acknowledged they knew about the unconstitutional actions; they had no choice but to go along.
Tinfoilism perhaps, but it seems like quite a few senior pols are retiring for not much of a stated reason - perhap they've tired of being a puppet.
At least Snowden is a human; they violated the whole thing (Obama was just a disgrace) by awarding the EU the Nobel prize. They could only go lower by awarding MONSANTO the Nobel prize next.
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Recent Nobel Prize winners have been a rouge's gallery of scumbags. Giving Snowden the prize would be a HUGE insult.
Giving him the cash award would be cool, though.
Peace prize, he's the leader of the god damn warm mongering nation that is the embarrassing shit-hole below Canada. What kind of fucking moron would nominate the head of the nation that's murdered somewhere in the area of 8 million+ people for a peace prize, unless he dismantled the american war machine I cant possibly see what he would have done to have earned that
snowden however did do something to deserve it.
Ghandi was a pacifist, in both action and principle. Saying anything else on that subject is simply astroturf.
posthumously. Else the might give it to Hitler. For his contribution to the unification of the world.
In the Snowden mould, I would nominate Guy Fawkes. He betrayed his lawful government, maybe or maybe not with good reason, but it didn't work and he paid the (rather nasty) price. Plus ca change, as our last invaders would say..
If Bradley Manning wins 2013 Nobel Peace Prize and Snowden wins the 2014 one it should give a clear message to the US. Anyway, this is happening in Sweden and they are very friendly with the NSA, i doubt that it happens.
Actually, yes I have been to several American public schools lately, and they don't resemble what you've described in any way.
They do, however, resemble a prison. Armed uniformed men on duty, chained doors and locked windows, rigid scheduling, total surveillance, bad food, lots of corporate sponsor logos, etc.
How the leader of one of the most warmongering nations on Earth got awarded a Nobel Peace Prize is beyond me.
He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, in part, for campaigning on the promise of Not Being Bush.
It's a low bar he set for himself that he's consistently failed to reach.
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I think Snowden is well worth one Nobel Peace Prize.
Unfortunately, a Nobel Peace Prize isn't worth a Nobel Peace Prize these days...Snowden deserves better.
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... That an award meant to promote the cause of nobility and peace has been used to create such strife and division.
Edward Snowden is already a great hero in the hearts and minds of many. Awarding him the Nobel Peace Prize only serves to repair the badly damaged reputation of the award itself.
Also, it's not as if one can just mail him a check. The man's life is in grave danger.
He's not the first Look up, "Obama, Sweden called, they want their Nobel back, they're transferring it to Snowden" or similar. Been out there for months. See something, say something. Folks in glass empires shouldn't fly drones
It was given to Henry Kissinger, Barrack Obama, the European Union. Obviously the Nobel peace price need to recover from the disrepute where it was fallen, and it needs Edward Snowden for that. But does Edward Snowden needs it?
He has my vote. :)
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Obama was an ideomotor response. Let's face it, any black president would have sufficed given he who preceded... Anything resembling the opposite of what was, came to pass, and the heavy gears of fate continued undisturbed whence from before.
He has not made anything safer.
Has he really done that? What do we want from our govt? We failed to act on "secret knowledge" that existed prior to 9/11 - and then it happened. We then put into play capabilities and allowed actions to occur at high levels, in an effort to prevent another attack from happening. Through two administrations now and two wars - we've not seen another attack on US soil and Bin Laden and many others like him are dead. This is precisely what we asked our govt and the soldiers fighting for our country to do. Do we really expect to read about what secret activities our nation is mixed in, spread across the media pages? for the sake of transparency? NO!!! WHY? CONTEXT - if the average citizen really thinks that only knowing half the story is ALL they need to make any informed decision, then we're all screwed. Personally, I say classify every damn thing there is - because treasonous jerks like Snowden just don't get it, especially in this day and age of giving every little piece of data you can muster. What he did was treason against the USA and as such, should be punishable under all the applicable laws on our books. If a soldier had done this - they'd be in jail If a politician had done this - they'd be investigated Flooding the worlds data wires with the intent of our military and armed forces is TREASON - it isn't FREEDOM of information, it's classified and highly sensitive info, that for all we know - will cost us more American lives today, tomorrow or down the road. End of the story
Beginning with Obama, that prize is seriously a joke -- worthless.
He just wanted fame.
I wonder if the Committee will deliver to the Moscow airport?
I sick and twisted idea. But after the award to Obama, it would be difficult to sink much lower.
He has caused a stir that's for sure.
Better than giving it to Linus Torvald. That man is not about peace.
First Obama, now Snowden...confirmation the Nobel Peace Prize is now officially a joke.
Impetuous! Homeric!
I think Edward Snowden deserves the award if his whistle blowing leads to radical changes and a more transparent global system. Right now the global system is operated as if an inordinately large group of internal people, contractors, vendors, stakeholders and select members if the general public all have the easy-to-guess Enterprise Administrator password and the security log has been disabled /metaphor ...
I think Obama would have deserved the award had he actually done something to bring about peace.
This discussion was derailed by race and religion. The point was missed.
Everyone forgets that Snowden planned this data theft before he had the job. That alone changes the narrative, since he pitched his "story idea" to Greenwald in Feb of 2013. Snowden didn't get hired by BAH for the Threat Operations Center until March 2013, which is the compartment he needed access to in order to lift the data he'd promised to the reporter. If ol' Ed was really the purist other people make him out to be (that he wasn't), wouldn't he have not made arrangements to leak the data before he even had his hands on it?
A longstanding tradition in international relations, is that every nation spies upon each other, your allies more so than your enemies. Snowden's running to China, and then tattling "the US is spying on you!" shows either wanton ignorance, or more proof that he wasn't doing this "great act of self sacrifice" to wake up the American people. China's been a frequent home country to spies caught in the US over the past 10-15 years. Operation Aurora, Ghostnet, and a flurry of other incidences that corporate network guys could lay out show that China's been getting taint deep in our electronic networks for a while.
Snowden: so concerned about America and the people that lived here, that he stole documentation allegedly outlining foreign spying programs to nations he planned fleeing to. Because that protects our privacy.
gosgog:
1st, Spying, don't y'all be so bloody naive, spying has gone since tribal days. It doesn't matter whether you are friendly or or not!
2nd. The Muslim world, mainly at the instigation of the 'mullahs', have created worldwide problems of terrorism & in particular, agin the NON- MUSLIM folks who live in Europe, the U.K.,U.S., etc.
3/.Snowden is Highly Moral & a Peace lover....BULLSHIT, he's in it for the fame and hoping for the Money.
We shall slowly realize that politics and business in globalization are nothing but giant ponzi/pyramid scams.
Casteism
Fasting/roaming half-naked in streets and NOT peaceful protests. They're cheap tools/tricks used by Gandhi to INSULT (not defeat British)
Unlike British generosity, protesters in Independent India are thrashed and thrown in jail by Indian regime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharmila_Chanu
A Brahmin killed Bania Gandhi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathuram_Godse
A Brahmin lady (Savita Kabir) killed Untouchable Ambedkar.
http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/may/29mai.htm
You're WRONG and MISLEADING.
Bania Gandhi BETRAYED the Independence of Muslims, Christians and Untouchables.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communal_Award
Casteism
This really peeves me... *rant* First off quit calling Snowden 'NSA'... he was a contractor...anyone else in IT know the *stigma* involved with the difference between contractor and employee? Second let's start calling him what he is.. a MOLE, and a bad one at that. This press blitz is clearly just an exit strategy that's getting too big. So who's he working for??? Third I *heard* the intelligence community in EUROPE (EU) has some beat read faces these days... just a rumor, But hey this guy nominating is a professor in SOCIOLOGY Fourth and foremost... Let face it people... PRISM is obsolete already *end rant* So, now, I'm going to lock down my firewall, and TOR all my guacamole recipe searches....cuz, who's really mad? Us or them ... which is what kind of attitude this propaganda is producing.
Snowden deserves a beating, not any prize. What has he done that's "wrong"?: 1) Theft 2) False credentials 3) Tampering with national security 4) Placing all Americans at risk 5) International flight 6) Traveling on a voided passport 7) Bartering with items/information he doesn't legally own nor has personally created 8) Terroristic threats 9) Unethical treatment toward his employer 10) Misrepresentation 11) Perjury/breach of oath 12) Dereliction of duty 13) Failure to follow orders. He's also flirting with, in fact, trying to set up the two main offenses: A) Assisting foreign powers B) Aiding the enemy. Sure, the Constitution guarantees our freedom to share more information with the public, and the right to free speech is great... but NOT when it will cause a danger to National Security. The info Snowden likely possesses is probably EXACTLY the kind of stuff al Qaeda wants leaked out so they can learn better of how to successfully find ways to kill Americans at will. Not to mention, maybe names and locations of counter-terrorism spies that the U.S. has out in the field infiltrating the ranks of those would-be murderers.