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Ask Slashdot: Is iOS 7 Slow?
New submitter PopHollywood writes "Is iOS 7 slower than version 6? After upgrading, myself and a few others notice slow, choppy experience when scrolling, changing apps, etc. Is this common?" For those using iOS in general, what's been your experience with the new upgrade?
More iCrap
more eye candy = slower on same hardware, what else did you expect
you're scrolling it wrong.
I work in a field where I see a lot of mobile devices and we've been seeing a lot of issues with iPhone 4/4S/5 units that had iOS 6 and were upgraded to iOS 7. Haven't come across too many 5C/S units yet but the few we have seem to be doing okay (no real issues with the 5S, 5C seems a little stuttery at times but not bad).
... to keep up with windows performance.
I notice some slugishness with iPad2, but I think it is my predisposition to thinking any new iOS version is bound to be slower on the same hardware.
That Apple has pushed out updates to hardware that couldn't really handle it. They've done this both to computers and I phones.
...especially after a reboot. Seems to get better as my commonly used apps are stored in RAM, but still choppy in areas such as switching apps through the multitask menu and occasionally when starting to type, which is far more annoying. Absolutely fine on my iPad 3 though.
There's room for improvement, but I'm not exactly displeased.
There seem to be two different kinds of slowdown. The first is due to the new animations for things like going back to the home screen. The second is more intermittent, and happens mostly when task switching. Both of them are annoying. The whole reason I went with iOS over Android was the snappier UI.
The disappearing Safari toolbar also drives me crazy. I wish I had held off on upgrading. Hopefully Apple will have some tweaks and patches out soon.
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Yep slower. I have iOS 7 on iPAD 3 + iPhone 5, both now run much choppier just using it.
All that fancy fading and field blurs take thier toll.
A look at memory usage shows about an extra 50-60mb used at startup too. :)
From memory almost every iOS version has made my iOS Devices slower, seems to be apples incentive to make you buy a new device
I've kept an iPod touch 2G and 4G around for a while—and I can say with some confidence that every single release of iOS has come with a palpable performance penalty. That's how Apple decides when to stop releasing iOS for a given device; the performance gets unacceptably awful.
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Since the iphone 3g, apple has been pushing updates that slow down older phones.
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It seems to be working just fine on my iPad Mini and iPhone 5. Perhaps identifying the hardware would be enlightening?
The last iPhone I had (3G) got patched just prior to the new model I was considering at the time, the iPhone 4. That software patch introduced close to unbearable lag and felt like a deliberate and underhanded ploy by Apple to suggest an upgrade to new hardware. That became the last iPhone I have owned.
I have not put it past Apple to consider it a deliberate act of sabotage.
When upgrading my mac computers I have always seen a significant boost in performance on the same hardware (obviously).
When upgrading the iOS devices I have found the opposite to be true. Each new version, on existing hardware, is slower but the feature set expands incredibly.
I think this is because iOS started out as an infant and did what it was supposed to do really well and performed really well on the hardware it was designed on, and had features that only worked on the existing hardware. But as iOS has matured, so has the feature set.... There are incredible search engines, graphics engines, Siri, and tons more... this has required increasing hardware capabilities to keep up with the features. .... So the trick with iOS is don't expect to get performance gains with iOS updates unless you update your hardware at the same time. Each new iOS version brings new bells and whistles, but not performance. With each iOS capable hardware device you should expect significant performance boosts.
I haven't noticed any general slowness on an iPhone 5.
However, there does seem to be an issue with the new Control Center. I have noticed sluggish responsiveness from buttons on the bottom of the screen in certain apps, presumably due to a conflict with the Control Center which can be activated by an upwards swipe from the bottom of the screen. Turning off the Control Center within apps (Settings/Control Center/Access within apps) fixed this issue for me while still retaining functionality from the main and lock screens.
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Maybe I'm the only one, but my iPhone 4S is actually working faster now. Transitions in and out of apps is much quicker, without the delay I had before.
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I've not noticed excessive stutter on my 4s, but battery life seems to be worse thus far. I've not had iOS 7 installed long enough to be sure, but it looks like even with my typical workday activity the battery is draining noticably faster. Getting two days out of a charge doesn't look possible anymore.
I read the internet for the articles.
Imoa the iPhone 4 should not be ugraded to iOS7 as it does lower the quality of the usage. The iPhone 4S and above seem to have more than enough power to make the UI flawless.
Yourself and a few others are always right. About everything. So yes.
I seriously doubt iOS7 is slow on iPhone 5s/5c. Now on iPhone 4, you should only be upgrading if you really need new features or must have consistency with your other devices, not with expectations of great performance. I the later case, you should probably have stuck with iOS5.
It's perfectly fine for me on iPhone 5 or iPad 2.
I had an iPhone 4S and I upgraded to iOS7. I noticed the slower animations and choppier UI right away. It was one of the things that made me very happy that I was ready for an upgrade. My new iPhone 5S performs perfectly, with the smooth UI and animations that I have come to expect from Apple. It seems like the older hardware just can't support it.
I had glitching issues when scrolling and I found these went away by disabling Bluetooth.
I use iPhone 5, and for me is working very well, no slow down or battery issues. But I disabled many background applications, and have a small amount of applications in notification center. I don't know how 4S is handling that yet. I haven't disabled anything, I just always used almost nothing in notification center. So, yes, I'm using parallax effect (you should use a bigger wallpaper than previously to really see the effect). One thing, what is your device? How can we know if this is a 4/4S issue or is an issue for any device? It is random? It depends of your installed applications? One thing we really know, each device has a strong difference in speed performance and CPU capabilities.
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Flaws in Apple products are big news. Similar flaws in non-Apple products ... not news.
And yeah, it's probably slower. There are a lot more zooms and fades and animations for various transitions between apps and such.
I was using the Betas of iOS since b3, and have the current version on my iPhone 5. It's as fast if not faster. And the battery life has been a LOT better.
I also installed iOS on an iPhone 4 for someone, and they noticed right away that it seemed a whole lot snappier.
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sounds stupid but on my iphone 4 the animations aren't choppy anymore after i rebooted it, i don't know why but it is what it is
I am running an Ipod Touch 5th gen, one of my favorite apps said not to update until they could put out a compatibility patch, and I'm glad that it stopped me after reading all of this! Thanks Slashdot, I'll wait a while yet.
I upgraded from 6.1.3 and noticed that it was a lot slower, all of the transitions look terrible and the phone seems to struggle with everyday use.
iOS 7 does have improvements in several aspects, for example, battery life has improved greatly.
I decided to give my iPhone a full reset so it didn't have as much load from the previous install and the speed has improved but there's some sluggishness feel to it anyway.
If you didn't want to get screwed up the a*** you shouldn't have gone Apple. These are the types of things you should expect from companies whom shove proprietary *crap* down your throat. I avoid any devices / companies which do this. Android isn't great either although there are at least phones I can get that will allow me to install other distributions and a more significant amount of the code is available.
My most recent phone is the ZTE "Open", a FireFox OS phone, that consists of mostly free software. Now my only real objection to it is the non-free wifi drivers and possibly the interface to the GSM modem (the modem firmware isn't ever going to be free on any phone due to FCC regulations). There is one other issue I think I have with it. The non-free GSM modem can probably access the CPU and memory making it a privacy nightmare (like every other, or most other phones).
The other issue might be the GSM modems ability to access the MIC without my permission. I'm by no means surprised by what I received. I think Mozilla only half gets it. Ideally Mozilla would have had a stipulation attached to the use of the logo / branding that mandated the use of free software drivers (for wifi & graphics). I'm not sure how realistic that would have been to achieve given low demand and costs. I think it may have required 20 million US dollars or more to fix just some of the privacy issues (modem's ability to access CPU/RAM, and MIC /wo permission). Obviously the phone would still be a tracking device short of some ability for the phone to convert into a 'call out' only device and/or a device that was more email like than phone (lets the user request a connection to the GSM network and request download of email). The user would still be tracked whenever they accessed the network although they wouldn't be tracked unless they accessed the network which would still be a huge advantage for the privacy conscious and consumers everywhere.
Haven't felt any slowness on my 4s
There is some new scrolling feature that is only implemented for things like Safari. Chrome, FF and all the other apps still have the slower, choppier, shittier scrolling.
The choppiest site I've visited on my 4S with iOS7 is slashdot's mobile site. The background of each story is "active" in the sense that when I thumb-down to scroll, the story's background dims to grey. The regular white background returns when I lift my thumb. This, combining this action with scrolling really makes for a choppy experience!
I've been using iOS 7 for a while now (beta 3) and love it overall. It makes life a lot easier and I haven't noticed any significant slowdowns. I use an iphone 5.
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By pushing newer OS to older devices, they become slow and then when the new owner buy a shiny new iphone, he goes "Oh, yeah it's 6 times faster!"
iOS 7 includes on-the-fly grammar and spelling correction. Your writing style is slowing the rest of the OS down.
seems just as smooth as iOS 6 on an iPhone 5 and 4S to me...
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Are you using Apple blessed cables, connectors, accessories, tables, chairs etc. Using any 3rd party stuff in a vicinity may slow down IOS7.
iOS7 should be fine on an iphone 5 or 4s, but there definitely should be a noticeable slowdown on an iphone 4. That hardware is a bit old by now, and iOS7 is designed for the newer hardware. E.g. the iphone 4 still has a single core A4 CPU, while the 4s already has the dual core A5. The newer phones (5 and up) also have twice the RAM. Still, upgrading to iOS7 is a user option, and it's better to have that option than not to have it. Not many 3 year old Android phones still get OS upgrades.
My experience on an ipad 2 so far: popular apps like Safari start somewhat slower, say from a bit under a second to a bit over a second. Afterwards it seems ok. Some transitions could be smoother but they'd not be quicker in my perception. It is quite logical that there is some loss of speed on older hardware. In general it is still very usable and the clean, crisp UI works well after dubious first few minutes.
I've been using it on my 5 for over a week now (I installed the GM shortly after it was released). Since I installed it pre-release, I did a restore instead of an upgrade. I've had snappy performance and great battery life. I suggest backing up and doing a restore.
Don't worry, those guys running the NSA are so smart - nothing could possibly go wrong or backfire..
But the animations run too slow for my taste. Considering turning them off.
If you say such things about Apple's software, your messages might be removed from their support forums, or you might be banned from their forums. When you are in the walled garden, you should be a happy consumer. Or else.
I haven't really noticed a slowdown on either my iPhone 4S or iPad 2. It gets a little choppy occasionally on my iPad 2, but that happened with iOS 6 at times as well. The biggest issue I've seen is decreased battery life because of all the background tasks being done. That and the constantly reloading of apps do to more memory being used by iOS 7.
I did have another issue on both devices, where somehow all my music (iTunes Match downloads), somehow got flagged as "Other Data" and couldn't be removed. I fixed this on my iPad 2 by turning off iTunes Match and doing a hard reset. For my iPhone 4S, nothing short of a restore fixed it. Both devices updated from iOS 6.1.3 OTA.
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After listening to the frustrations of our iOS devs working to get our app ready for iOS 7, I'm waiting a couple of months before upgrading. Give lazy app producers time to patch their stuff before taking the plunge. Or maybe I'll just wait until 7.0.1 / 7.1.
I'm running it on an iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 and have noticed no slow downs. The 4 is actually a bit faster than it was under iOS 6. The only issues I've really seen from anyone is people complaining about the animations eating away fractions of seconds of their precious little lives.
I browse on +1 so AC's need not respond, I won't see it.
When i started using Linux, it would run just fine on my 486DX33 with 8 MB of RAM. Now when I try to run it on machines with 50x that spec it is slow.
Newsflash: hardware requirements increase with new features. Supporting end of life hardware that hasn't been made for multiple generations in new platforms holds back said platform. Whether it is iOS, WIndows, Linux or whatever.
I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
you need to reboot your device to remove the choppiness. I only had to do it once. and never had this problem with any of the beta's.
Update went well on my iPhone 4 (not S). Still am getting used to some elements. For example, the "ok" to unlock is kind of really unclear, and as such, I have doubts on putting nondescript text as buttons instead of having them shown with a rounded rect button frame.
I had MAJOR slowdowns everytime I was writing some line of text. I mean major MAJOR, like the UI freezing for 10 seconds, then putting all the text I was blindly writing, and then freezing for yet another 10 seconds. Then, Mr. Interwebz found the solution, which is to disable iCloud synchro for documents & settings ... and from that point on, no more battery hug, no more slowdowns, and everything is quite responsive.
So far, like it!
It's definitely slower and I regret upgrading.
There's not enough white space to provide any visual separation on a device so small when there is not even an attempt at drawing lines or separating elements. Almost everything is smaller and harder to read, and it's not obvious what is a "button" and what is just text in a corner somewhere. In fact, many of the improvements are simple knock offs of Android has had for a while. The world will soon be divided into Upswipers and Downswipers.
I was thinking about updating my 4S, but while 7 was a step forward for some usability cases, I'm not sure I want to stick around for whatever is next. I am tired of not having full access to the hardware, and when I heard Ives was going to cut out cruft, I didn't imagine he was going to replace the whole system with the Office 2012 theme. Unfortunately for us, they're both based upon the premise that everyone wants to live in pure white Helvetica purgatory, and I don't think most of us do.
It's probably a consequence of his background in hardware. When you cut elements out of real materials down to their simplest possible form, there is still depth and innate information because it is a physical object. When you remove all delineation and depth from two dimensional representations, new users cannot even guess at your purpose when it looks like a blank sheet of paper with text and small iconography scattered around randomly on top of it. While the elements look much better on larger screens (as found in this informal poll), things like the slot-machine style picker are not very obvious when you're scrolling around. I don't think they did much real world testing with new users on actual devices.
tl:dr; If you're a first year art student, you will absolutely love iOS 7. If you prefer to have some visual cues on what is content and what is part of the interface, you may want to hold off until Apple allows graphic designers capable of using more than one color back on the team.
On most computers, Windows 7 is as fast or faster than Windows Vista.
Then again, Vista was "non-beta" in name only.
Apple has traditionally tweaked their latest software to run its best on the latest hardware, sometimes at the cost of running slower on older hardware. In general, most performance tweaks have side effects that will vary based on the underlying hardware. While Apple could create different versions of iOS tuned for different hardware, that would cause another layer of fragmentation, which is something Apple tries to avoid. That, and the obvious fact that they can sell more hardware by focusing on tweaking the OS for the latest hardware.
What iPhone are you and your friends running? Model makes a big difference - for instance, I'm on the 4. My performance is somewhat choppy at key animation points in the OS, but that's expected. So?
You have to reboot it once.
Be thankful iOS gets updates guaranteed for at least 2 years. Android users are lucky if an upgrade is ever available in a way that's simple for average people to do.
My experience: Every operation is, or at least seems to be, much faster; and the UI seems much more responsive than iOS6.
Have been using iOS7 for ~3days.
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So you want to buy the new hardware.
Subjectively slower on my 4S, but Safari bookmarks are so slow to edit there is no doubt a bug there (type> wait 10 seconds > character appears in field).
Tap the address bar or the page's bottom to bring it up.
It seems I'm the only one but I feel the change of those icons is horrible. Flat design might be ok for windows, etc, while the blur and other effects are cool, but the fonts are thinner and even when you use the Bold option in accessibility, it still doesn't read as good as it read before. I guess with a shiny Retina display it is awesome, but for an iPad mini it doesn't work extremely well. I really can't wait until the industry hit The Next Big Thing TM and focus away from flat design. It might be cool for some things but I really dislike all that white space in stuff like the new Office in Windows 8 and the Setting and Mail app on iOS7.
On my iPhone 4
Overall, it feels snappier, but that may be psychological, since the interface looks cleaner. Also, I see a lot of negative comments of 'new iPhone' owners regarding the slowness because of all the animations. I don't see those. Maybe because they are automatically disabled on the iPhone 4. Perhaps, the iPhone 4, of all compatible models, is the best one to upgrade iOS 7 on.
Scrolling is slower. in iOS 6, the scrolling page appeared to be subjected to a certain amount of inertia. I.e. it kept on scrolling for a little bit even after you stopped dragging. Also, the faster you swiped your finger up, the more inertia there seemed to be. It was helpful in scrolling though lengthy pages. All that seems to be gone now. At least in Safari.
Skype is broken in iOS 7 on several points: (i) longer time tags are capped, '20' rather than '20.39', (ii) sending photographs and video messages is broken now. And there's no update available yet.
Why is the parent modded down to -1? It seems like a fair comment.
It would seem that Apple are spending some of their cash mountain on "reputation management" ...
The moderation on this thread is very strange. Most of the comments suggesting that the slow-down on older phones is deliberate are getting hammered.
Microsoft hired marketing companies to manipulate message-boards after the Xbone launch went wrong - I wonder if Apple are doing the same thing?
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Feels a little faster in some areas like web browsing, generally about the same, but I prefer the old UI.
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Is there any way to 1) revert back to iOS6 after the update or 2) stop all these animations? Android has an option to stop all animations. I saw Apple has an option to disable some. Is there a tool/hack to disable all?
It's actually been zippier in general on my iPad so far. But I got rid of a few dozen apps to make room so it could just be that the memory is less clogged up.
It is very responsive and very quick both loading applications and content within. Safari is quicker to load and browse pages and very responsive.
I loaded iOS 7 on my mates iPhone 4 and it added half a second to load any apps and transition. It was painful. The only upside was, once again, inside Safari loading pages was quicker.
iOS 7 seems no slower on my iPad Mini either.
Are you serious? I have the fist model Nexus 7 and I haven't seen it hitch on anything even with the latest software.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/09/new-lease-on-life-or-death-sentence-ios-7-on-the-iphone-4/
"When asked whether you should install iOS 6 on an iPhone 3GS, we can say "yes" without hesitation or condition. When it comes to the iPhone 4 and iOS 7, our response is a more measured "do it if you like the new features, but have you considered a newer phone?"
iOS 7 on Apple's oldest-supported hardware is hardly a disaster, but it's apparent that the only reason Apple issued this update was because they were selling the iPhone 4 free with contract up until September 10. It has been their value option for a year, and in the Apple ecosystem, even people who bought a new iPhone 4 on September 9 will get at least a year's worth of updates. The A4 simply isn't up to the task of rendering iOS 7 as Apple intended, and the upgrade in general performance and apparent smoothness between even the iPhone 4 and year-newer 4S is significant (to say nothing of the iPhone 5, 5C, and 5S).
When it comes to launching apps, the iPhone 4's general slowness is only exacerbated by the too-long animation durations in iOS 7. This is also a problem on the faster phones and tablets, but at least there you've got faster underlying hardware to keep everything moving at a steady clip.
It's great that Apple isn't abandoning older iPhone owners really. People buying an iPhone 4 free with contract were still getting a phone that felt reasonably fast with iOS 6, and they weren't necessarily aware that they were getting an older single-core SoC with an older, slower GPU that would be ill-suited for Apple's new direction. At least they have the option to upgrade. That said, the iPhone 4 and iOS 7 just can't quite provide an experience that's up to Apple's usual standard. Apply the update if there's an iOS 7 feature (or an iOS 7-only app) that you need in your life, but our recommendation now would either be to wait for potential performance boosts in a future iOS 7 update or to start looking into a new iPhone 5C or 5S."
I downgraded my iPad back to 6.1.3.... It's perfectly doable.
on iphone 4, looks choppy and slow. Animations in some cases do 3-4 fps. I suspect this is due to older hw. In any case, bad idea to put ios7 on iphone4, unless there is a major performance fix coming up shortly.
Aside from the animations making things take longer, performance is choppier than it used to be on my iPad 3. Even typing in some apps now lags at times, and it never did that before.
Looking enviously at my wife's Nexus 7 2nd gen, that thing flies.
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After upgrading my iphone 5 the phone has many times gone unresponsive after sleeping. Sometimes it might come back 20-30 minutes later, but I usually end up resetting the phone. A few times I've noticed a ~10 second freeze-up while using the phone. My phone was glitch-free with iOS 6. I've done a "reset all settings" which seemed to help a bit. I've also tried turning off the passcode lock and/or control center access while locked, which hasn't. Needless to say I'm extremely disappointed in Apple right now!
Two iPhone 5's
iPad 2
iPad 4
iPad 2 is a bit buggy with App Store cards but nothing major. Performance is good on all my devices
I couldn't help noticing that iOS development got sensibly slower: XCODE 5 is a lot slower, and debug on the simulator is a dog: takes forever to launch on a relatively fast iMac with 16 Gb and solid state hard drive. This way XCode is adding minutes every time I need to recompile, relaunch, debug. In the course of the day this adds up...
I can delete my spam faster now.
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I've posted them up on my G+ account, so I'll just link to that instead of repeating myself here. Just remember, though, I come from a 3G to a 4 to a 5.
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I'm running iOS 7.0 on my iPad 2 and did not experience any slowdown issues--in fact, Safari in iOS 7.0 renders web pages a lot faster than before.
However, I did see one noticeable issue: the graphical design--especially the text fonts--don't look good on an iPad 2 with its lower-resolution screen. I've seen the final iOS 7.0 on an 4th-generation iPad and thanks to its "Retina Display" resolution touchscreen, it does look really good.
Often times I find tiny micro-freezes during animations when switching apps or scrolling... it is horrible.
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.. if it's ran on slow hardware now can it?
Yes there is a slight... delay here and there. Dunno. It does not feel slow, but it is not butter-smooth
anymore either.
That said, I like the new UI.
I am still a bit hesitant to upgrade my iPhone 4, because of my experience a few years ago with an upgrade on
an iPhone 3 which definitely was not pleasant.
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I would have expected some slowing down but have not seen it. Instead, it seems faster to Me.
It's Apple, of course it sucks. This is the company that doesn't even trust their users. Users aren't allowed to even change a battery. Fuck Apple. Apple=Commies.
I can't speak for the rest, but on my iPhone 4 scrolling down through slashdot articles on the main screen used to be smooth. With iOS7 something is messed up - the scroll responds at least 2x slower. I can barely tolerate reading slashdot anymore.
turning it on and off again?
the nsa_track() routine.
So I too noticed slow scrolling in Safari on my 4s after upgrading to iOS 7 but it seems to be site specific. Here on Slashdot the issue is very noticeable. Less so on most other sites I've visited. Overall I believe iOS 7 is a faster performing OS, but I believe the hardware on the 4s isn't quite up to snuff for everything iOS 7 has to offer. I'm looking forward to an upgrade to a 5s after the excitement dies down a bit - probably next month. I'm expecting some blazing speed out of my device then.
Has Jobs' legacy been discarded by Apple so soon?
The iOS 7 is GUI is mediocre at best. Remember Jobs? "We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them." - Steve Jobs (Forbes, 1/4/2000)
It saddens me to see Apple's legendary vision trashed by current Apple leadership (sic?). Please bring back iOS 6's GUI. Bring back the vibrant colors. Please bring back a screen I can see without eye strain. Bring back simple visible boundaries, thicker or darker lines, brighter colors, and buttons I might enjoy [c]licking.
At the very least, please provide a Legacy Option so the rest of us can select a Eye Friendly Interface.
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iOS7 is noticeably faster. I'm not a fan of the interface changes, many of which just seem to be for the purpose of change rather than actual improvement. What I wish most of all is that they would focus on legacy support. Quite frankly, they should support all hardware back to the original iPhone and gracefully fall back on features that just don't work. This would bring all users forward. Simultaneously they should support all software back to the original MacOS and even the Lisa and Apple I, II and III. They have the computational power to do the emulation. Legacy support is much more useful than these color changes.
All the people I know with it upgraded dislike it. I don't know if anyone else has this issue one friend I know on the newer iphone with the upgrade can lock his phone and then before entering the key to get the phone back on use SIRI to call, send texts, and send email. Assuming more can be done but thats all he has used SIRI for in the past.
Sluggish to react to homescreen presses (whether its to return to homescreen or just enter the 'multitasking menu'), and when in the Settings app and tapping one of the sections - it often takes about half a second for the options on the right to load, sometimes upwards a second. Responsive sure as damn hell isn't what I'd call it - and theres not even animations causing the delay. The core OS is just plain slow. It also doesn't respond reliably to swipe-up gestures in order to force-close apps, normally taking several attempts before it gets what I'm trying to do.
I don't know.... I've been on iOS 4 for quite a long time with my iPad 2.
This is because I don't upgrade stuff that isn't broken or needed for some software I use. (Something I've learned the hard way with linux in the past 13 years I've been using it)
Blur is definitely a real slowdown, we deliberately used our own nav bars to avoid it. It's especially sluggish on any scrolling list. Of course this is not turned on for iPhone 4. You also have to realize that this OS is so new we didn't have a new beta for the last month before it was released and that meant no time to really optimize anything. Even Apple barely got it completed enough to ship. On the iPad it's still beta as far as I can see. They only started the whole UI transition in Nov of last year and that simply wasn't enough time to get everything optimized. Changing the UI and much of the frameworks underlying an OS in less than a year has never been done to this level. It amazes me it works at all. Still it will take a few updates until it catches up. By then you won't notice issues any more. Remember how long it took MS to go from XP to Win 7?
The next-generation GUI on Linux is slow. By "next-generation" I mean gtk/gnome 2 and qt/kde 3. It's the modern GUI with unicode, multi-language input, text anti-aliasing and bidi and everything get double-buffered, plus automatic layout system which hasn't yet appeared on OS/X and majority of windows apps even today.
It didn't become slower afterwards. Qt4 actually made things a lot faster.
What, pray tell, necessitated removing turn by turn navigation on the iPhone 4, when it worked in iOS 6?
Changing wallpaper on an iPad 3 takes anywhere from 10 to 30 seconds. For comparison, wallpaper changes are pretty much instant on an iPad1 in IOS 5.1.1.
After reading how disappointing iOS 7 was on the iPhone 4, I decided to try a different upgrade path...
Running a jailbreak as I type! Looking forward to running all the apps Apple doesn't think we should be running!
iOS 7 runs fine on my iPhone 5 and iPad 3. I'm a registered developer so have been using the beta's and did a DFU restore for each update (including the GM/Release). Its something I always do with major upgrades anyway as it seems to improve performance over a regular upgrade (though it could all be in my head).
As for older devices, I noticed it a bit sluggish on a friends iPhone 4. They had a ton of apps listed in the "task manager", so I turned off background app refresh to see if that helped and t here was an immediate performance boost. Something to consider if your on an older device.
If you leave the background app refresh on, you might want to be more diligent about closing out apps (or turning it off for those that you don't necessarily need it running on).
Trusting in the Steve Jobs Legacy, I eagerly upgraded both of my Apple iPads (2nd & 3rd gen) to iOS 7. But I was sorely disappointed. The quality is not what we have come to expect from Apple. I learned long ago not to update my MicroSoft packages with such reckless abandon. Luckily, I have not yet "upgraded" my iPhone 4S. And I still have my Android. I would pay a premium to restore my iOS 7 devices to iOS 6, so they are once again east to read.
Using the heretofore interoperable Calendar on both iPad & iCloud as an example for my preliminary analysis: The pastel colors are pasty, not vibrant as in iOS 6. The ruled lines (from TOD on left to event) are too faint to see. The text strokes are too narrow to read. But with the BOLD option in my iOS 7 settings, the text is no longer sharp. These calendar layouts are now all but unreadable (for my less than young eyes). Worse, the icons now look shallow and cheap. I no longer have Pride of Ownership in these devices that as I had last week. Given this week's degradation, I would not have switched from Android to Apple. I trusted you guys (Apple), and am consequently sorely disappointed.
"This phone doesn't have enough fades and swimming bubbles and blurs! I wanna new one!!" Bovine capitalism at its finest.
Turning off Apps is no longer a simple tap. The swipe up does not always work, so I must redo it two or three times. That may be OK for young folk, but quickly turns into muscle-strain for me. This nicely compliments the eye-strain from the new iPad layout. Apple should remember that Baby Boomers will soon outnumber them.
What I hate about iOS 7 is the bright white background in the photo viewer. I am snowblind after a few minutes. If anyone from Apple reads this, PLEASE give me an option to go back to the black background!
Some people had no choice. I woke up yesterday morning and ios7 was automatically installed ... F U Apple.
You cant use SHSH blobs now. Apple has introduced the APTicket mechanism which makes them useless.
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/cannot-downgrade-ios-7-ios-6-1-3-ios-6-1-4.html
There's nothing stopping users of old hardware running the old, designed-for-device iOS (or Android, etc.)
Other than that new applications and reinstalled applications are available only for the newer operating system. And other than that Apple requires installing the latest version of the OS; no downgrading from, say, iOS 4 on a 3GS should the user find it sluggish.
A year ago, Apple was still selling the fourth generation iPod touch. I imagine that devices purchased from September 22 through October 10 of last year are still under factory warranty, even if they aren't getting iOS 7. Perhaps Apple might have added the ability to download an app compatible with old iOS to keep fourth generation iPod touch users from making warranty claims.
I downgraded my iPad back to 6.1.3.... It's perfectly doable.
Its temporary. When new iOS versions are introduced there is generally a brief window of time where Apple's servers approve both versions for installation. After a little while the previous version will be removed from the approved list and only the new version will be approved from that point forward.
If you with reinstall iOS 6 do not delay.
I don't own an Android phone because data plans are so expensive. But I do know Google pushes out operating system updates to my ASUS Nexus 7 tablet within a couple days of their announced availability. I think it does the same to the GSM version of the LG Nexus 4 as well.
I downgraded my iPad back to 6.1.3.... It's perfectly doable.
You must have an iPad 1. It is impossible to downgrade any iOS device after the iPhone 4S/iPad 2. You cannot do anything meaningful with the SHSH blobs. So its perfectly doable for you, and a handful of people on older hardware. But it is not perfectly doable in general.
The first generation iPad won't upgrade past iOS 5.1.1.
Downgrades are generally possible for a very brief time period when a new version is introduced. Apple does not seem to disable installation of the old version immediately upon release of the new version, it will happen, but there is a delay.
On my iPad Mini, 7 doesn't seem perceptibly any faster or slower than 6.1.x -- just different, which is a topic for another thread.
My iPhone 4S, however, is a different story. It does indeed feel noticeably choppier/more sluggish in some respects. The dropping-out-of-warp starfield simulation the icons do when unlocking, for instance, often seems quite herky-jerky. There are other, intermittent, occurrences where the OS seems to just pause for a moment or two while it performs some sort of background process (clearing/swapping RAM contenets, perhaps), that just makes the whole experience of using the phone a tad more Jedi/Zen-like -- "patience, my young padawan". My 4S has only 16GB of storage, but 3GB free, so swapping RAM contents *shouldn't* be a problem of available space, no?
And now if you'll permit me to mix metaphors -- that's my two cents, your mileage may vary.
On my 4S it's great (has been for weeks, Yes I had it for 3 weeks now) on my horribly out of date Ipad 3 it is just fine and the Wifes 5 it's speedy.
On par with what it felt like before the update. No slower no faster than my two nexus 7's or the Nexus 4 I also carry every day.
I did notice that a couple of the older apps that I have been refusing to update because the scumbag dev's added ad's into the app I paid for have problems with the new OS though.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Yep, it's slower all right. Normally I never get the first version of any new release (anything with .0 after it). But this one really pissed me off. All the notification offer said was "Upgrade available" without giving any indication of what it was. I thought it was another security upgrade, not a version upgrade. o it took forever to download. It turned out to be iOS7. It sucks. It's not only ugly but incredibly slow. I have the latest and greatest iPad. I need to find out how to go back to the old system.
I love my iPhone. I've had one since the first model.
iOS7 is "okay" - it has a few new bells and whistles, most of it is just the new UI. I can't say I'm all that impressed -- and honestly, the animation makes me dizzy! Even the Accessibility options to reduce the animation doesn't help.
Word up, to Apple: you're going to have to cut the crap with these minor incremental upgrades -- Android is catching up, very quickly, as are other major manufacturers of 'droid platform (think: Samsung).
Um, no biometrics please. Like I trust Apple to "keep it secret; keep it safe". Nope.
The iPhone is a horrible mobile platform, it's to small, poorly designed and leaves the user feeling like they were ripped off. The S3 still beats the iPhone everyday of the week hands down and backwards. The biggest upgrade Apple can do is to make the phone decent enough to use on a day to day basis, i have an iPhone for work and I hate it, it's the biggest piece of shit I've ever used. It's to small, to sluggish and it's software design makes me feel like high school students made it. I also have a S3 which I use everyday and it's hands down 10 thousand times better in every single aspect.
After using IOS 7 for a few days, we seem to notice slow scrolling (smooth and then stalls for a fraction of a second) while using Safari and Mail. Also web page buttons seem to have enough lag to occasionally cause double pressing.
iOS 7 on my iPad 4 is definitely choppy. Started clean, removed all songs and most apps. No help. Screen lag, jittery, etc. The emperor has new clothes. Apple is nothing, if not smooth.
But why would just the bare OS saturate the CPU? How is that good design?
...not particularly slower than iOS6, but I've tweaked a bunch of settings and turned off some of the CPU hogging stuff.
YMMV
I was definitely worried about putting IOS 7 on a vanilla iPhone 4. But I haven't noticed any slowdowns, and indeed some actions, like scrolling the home pages, see a little crisper. And I really like the poor-man's SB Settings (I think they call it Control Center) that you get by dragging the bottom edge up.
The nicest thing I've noticed is that t-mobile finds 3G networks much more reliably than with IOS 6. In 6.1.2 it usually got stuck on EDGE networks when 3G was available (required toggling airplane mode to convince it to look again). 6.1.3 improved this significantly, but with IOS 7, I haven't seen it glom onto EDGE pointlessly at all.
On what device?
I am the unwilling control for my Origin.
Faster in EVERY way. All my apps run better, look better and are easier to use. iOS 7 is the best mobile OS ever made, and I've already had half a dozen people dump their LAMEdroid phones after showing them just a couple of the amazing features of my iPhone 5 running iOS 7. So long lamedroid, nice try, but you're done.
Just stop.
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
Especially when i'm playing real racing 3, and the stupid thing is trying to multitask email in the background
Back when I upgraded my iPhone 4 from iOS5 to iOS6 there was a noticeable slowdown, but after upgrading to iOS7 things are definitely better - the interface feels a bit more snappy and changing between apps is faster. Some apps (e.g. facebook) are still somewhat slow, but still faster than when running under iOS6.
One thing, though: I was down to about 2.5 GB available memory before upgrading so I had to move a lot of images and videos away from the phone prior to upgrading, so the increase in available memory may also have contributed to the improved speed.
Not necessarily true. Windows Vista (no SP) was the top of Windows hardware requirements. Windows Vista SP1 and onwards, Windows HW requirements has dropped and speed has increased. Windows 7 was significantly faster and more HW efficient than Vista. Windows 8 generally utperforms Windows XP on the same hardware if you have a reasonably recent graphics card (even when the grapics system is not dedicated).
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My iphone5 feels bloated since the upgrade. Pressing the home button takes a fraction longer to switch contexts. I get intermittant UI lags especially when multitasking. In coming phone calls take longer to pick-up. I have dropped a few phone calls, but that's probably because I'm thinking no one was there when the screen was slow to update.
I especially do not not like the new Safari UI. I wish I stayed with iOS6 on my iphone5. Oh well, I'll just upgrade to the 5S, I needed a good excuse to buy a new phone.
I've been trying to upgrade my Ipad 1, and it's so slow it doesn't even say it's available yet!
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
I've noticed that the keyboard comes up on my iPad3 kind of jerky and there is a delay before I can start typing. It is no longer "instant"
Not so much on my iPhone5. There are a few things that pause - I've had a few time where I double pressed a button because it was slow to respond (so slow that I thought I missed the button). But for the most part everything works fine.
Generally yes, it is no longer "instant" - almost as if something is running in the background.
I also don't like the animations of the icons dropping in from above. Looks nice - but I need to wait for it to finish before I can use the device.
Also - what's up with the delay when pushing the power button? The screen now slowly gets brighter...which I need to wait for that too. The "getting darker" transition when locking the device is okay. But when I press On, I mean On...stupid dragon.
Overall I do like iOS7. Just a few minor kinks to work out.
I haven't noticed any slowness with my two devices. I'm waiting for my iPhone 5s since the OS was written for that specific phone. Ron
The iOS upgrade was fine on the iPhone 5 and even on the iPad 3. The performance feels just fine to me. I have been running it since June and now going back to the older version really makes the phone feel old. The new features are well worth the upgrade. Not to mention the extra security from Apple encouraging the use of PIN's and now a phone can't be reactivated without the iCloud ID if it is wiped making an aftermarket for stolen phones far less desirable if people use them. The big benefits are going to come in the future as more apps start going 64 bit and the older phones and iPads are phased out in favor of 64 bit devices. Over all it is a good upgrade in my opinion. The Control Center (swipe up from the bottom) the Today feature (swipe down from top) quick access to search from any screen (swipe down on the middle of the screen) are all worth while. Mail now allows you to have a mailbox of just unread messages. (In Mailboxes tap edit and choose Unread Folder). The added security will eventually benefit us all. Auto Update of apps so users don't have to worry about keeping apps up to date anymore. All I think are worth the upgrade. The visual changes are a little jarring at first but once users get used to them it will fade away and some day we will wonder what the fuss was all about.
I have also experienced a major degradation in performance on my iPhone 4s since upgrading to iOS7.
Switch between apps.
Apps themselves perform slower (scrolling etc)
Even double pressing home button is lease responsive, sometimes have to do 2-3 times.
Hopefully my new iPhone 5s Gold that I should get in October will be better.
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1.) Hold the Home+Power button to do a hard shutdown of the phone
2.) Press the Power button to turn it back on
Your welcome!
P.S. This also fixes problems with a broken Notifications Center after upgrading an i-Device to iOS7.
My ancient i-Phone 4 with 16 is solid and I like the changes. It is better in response; battery life; link to bluetooth headset.
Liked the layout of the icons for the applications a little better. Seems quicker to change from vertical to horizontal or vice versa.
I (still) appreciate the switch from Blackberry to Apple. Unless I have excess funds to spend I'll be satisfied with the old 4.
My immediate impression, on my 4S, was that it was much snappier. Also, my voice quality went from unacceptable to great. I realize that's almost certainly a coincidence--something happened on my network at the same time, or something--but that was my experience. As for speed though, no question: My iPhone 4S got faster. Jim
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Apple is trying to be the new Microsoft. Change stuff without improving it.
So I have an iPhone 5 that I bought through a new cell phone service provider. The day the new IOS7 came out I lost my cell phone service completely. Fortunately I have free Wifi at work. I noticed it was available so I updated the phone. We'll guess what as soon as I has finished installing the iodate I my cell phone service was restored....weird.
I am a die-hard Linux fan. Since 1999, I've been compiling my own kernels and all that nerdy crap. Recently I changed from android smart phones to the iPhone for one reason. Stability. Android is a shameful mark on Linux and has done nothing but frustrate me. So I switched phones. A week of hating on Apple, iOS7 comes out and fixes a lot of things I never liked (my mother has been an apple junky for years). Now the only thing I would like is Skype and tapping a word places the cursor in the word. But for all of the crashes and bugs my android has giving me, I'll gladly say f@&$ android until they stop trying to mimic apple with unstable bullsheet.
So many people who apparently choose their device based on "bubbles" and shit. I guess liking devices because they perform well or are cost-effective is old-fashioned. Whatever the mold that usually forms on strawberries is usually looks like powdered sugar, so obviously moldy strawberries are preferable to fresh ones. Why would you choose to have fresh bread when you can have pretty rainbow mold instead?
I dropped my iPad a few days ago and it fell at exactly 9,8m/s^2
I did it again after upgrading to iOS7 and same result.
Serioulsy: I don't see it being slow (iPad 3, 32GB) And yes, the above is true, the damn thing drops to the ground every few days, all the corners are completely dented. ;)
But... as it was gift from my ex-employer I don't give a fuck
Bwahaaaa, Apple fanboys shiver, I'm torturing and abusing one of your holy devices...
-- 29A the number of the Beast
Initial impressions are that rather than being slower, it is faster.
Some people reported the devices hanging when inputting their pin. Did not have that either.
It turned bluetooth on. Did not want that.
I really preferred the old icons. Hoping there is an app to restore them.
Battery life so far is the same.
Have not tried all the new features, so my report is not comprehensive
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Could Apple's iOS 7 be their version of "Vista"? I'll be watching closely!!
My karma is bad. Don't get too close!!!
I have the download ready and waiting to install but I was looking for threads and articles like this one before deciding on upgrading (I have an iPhone 5 which runs perfectly fine as it is). I am planning on upgrading soon but want to hear about any problems that users are running into. It seems like some are very happy, some not so happy and those in-between. I figure that any show-stoppers will turn up this week. My son had to buy a phone two months ago (his feature phone died). I suggested the Nexus 4, HTC-1 (Google edition), and S4 (Google Edition). I recommended the Nexus 4 as he's picking up the tab (it's nice when your kids graduate with a CS degree so that they can get a job and pay for their own toys) and that's what he chose and he loves it. He used to carry around a feature phone and an iPod Touch for music and pictures. Now he just has one device with a very good camera, screen, battery life and he doesn't have to keep multiple cables around to charge multiple devices. My wife's feature phone is going too and I'm planning on getting her a Nexus 5 when it comes out. I like the file-level stuff that you can do on Android but I prefer the Apps on iOS. So I have an iPhone and a Nexus 7 - I can do what I want between the two of them.
Or, are you thinking that is how you spell "common"? Also, "than" would make more sense where you used "that."
Maybe you are just thinking too fast.
I have had to diable my password lock because the phone freezes. Typing text in any app is extremely slow - takes up to one minute before you can seewhat you've typed. It's like the phone is damaged! I had no problems prior to the upgrade.
Trying to watch a YouTube video reminds me of trying to watch it on iphone2
Thanks to whoever suggested turning on the reduce motion effect. It definitely stopped the sllllllllooooooooowwwwwww movement and jerkiness on my iPad 3rd gen. Haven't noticed on my iPhone 5. I left the contrast alone as I kind of like the translucency and it doesn't seem to affect speed.