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In Paris, Terrorists Kill 2 More, Take At Least 7 Hostages
As reported by The Daily Beast, news on the ongoing terror attack (or attacks) in Paris. Chérif and Saïd Kouachi, who are accused of slaughtering 12 in an attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine, have been cornered by hundreds of security officials close to Charles de Gaulle Airport, north of Paris. Officials say they believe the heavily armed brothers are holding one hostage.
Twenty miles south, in the east of the city, at least one gunman is believed to have taken six hostages at a Jewish store. Police suspect that the third gunman is the same man who shot and killed a policewoman on Thursday morning before escaping in a bulletproof vest. Update: 01/09 17:44 GMT by T : And now all three of the gunmen involved in today's hostage taking are dead.
Watch this space for updates.
Update: 01/09 17:15 GMT by T : CNN's story features a stream of updates (and an autoplaying video ad to beware), as does The Telegraph. Latest news is that brothers Cherif and Said Kouachi have been killed by police, but it's unclear whether the same is true of the third hostage-taker.
Why is this news for nerds?
My ass.
ZERO murders over Piss Christ, for all you moral equivalency loons.
/. "live" report.
More from the religion of peace and tolerance.
Queue up people bringing up the Holy Crusades and other things that took place a good 300 years ago
The religion of peace spreads the word of God once again!
The moderate Muslims need to more loudly denouce this shit.
Or the assumption will be they agree with the acts of barbarity done in the name of their god.
This is an obviously important story - available on hundreds of news sites elsewhere.
My question is how this is related to technology ? How is this "news for geeks"?
This is obvious clickbait designed to gather hits for people doing searches for this story.
Next year are we to expect the site to be renamed the "Slashington Post" with the right hand column devoted to sideboob?
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Good thing they have such restrictive gun laws, that way things this this won't happen....
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Gun...
"Watch this space for updates."
If only there were places on the web one could go to watch live streaming coverage of event such as this, or liveblogs. Or a service where small messages containing updates could be broadcast to other users, searchable by special keywords called "hashtags"....
Please help metamoderate.
Looks like the French Police decided to speed up the brothers meeting with Allah! GO FRANCE!
>> Police suspect that the third gunman is the same man who shot and killed a policewoman on Thursday morning before escaping in a bulletproof vest.
So he hopped into a bulletproof vest and rode it away from the scene?
Both brothers are dead and their hostage is freed
Reported a few minutes ago, all three terrorists are dead.
"Watch this space for updates."
Hahaha, updates on Slashdot! You're kidding me.
Probably in a few days we'll see a dupe of this article, with hopefully correct information.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/09/charlie-hebdo-manhunt-kouachi-terrorist-links-live-updates
As of right now.
obamas fault
Those guys have knowledge we needed. Why were they not taken out with some kind of sleep darts instead of lead bullets? Now we'll never know what we could have learned.
Not that they'd know all that much, if dumb enough to kill over a stupid cartoon.
I'm glad karma took the quick route for once. For islamic fundamentalists to die in a kosher store and in a printing press after attacking a magazine. Can't beat that.
As usual here, by the time they get a story up on the site; the news is over/changed/useless. Hostage takers are already dead. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
This is directly related to a story about people who want to censor certain information.
Freedom of speech is as important to geeks as it is to journalists. We design, build and maintain the code and the hardware that journalists use to put out the stories to the public. Back in the print days most people didn't give a crap about what was printed in one country, or even in the next town over. Now we, the computer nerds of the world, have enabled a huge revolution in communication that is affecting entire countries, societies and religions. And we keep creating new ways to share information every day. Control of information, censorship, freedom of speech and the press are hugely intertwined with our nerd lives and livelihoods.
Remember when anti-free-speech advocates tried to censor music lyrics? I do. Remember when they tried to ban many video games? I do. Remember wen they started shooting people who published satirical cartoons? Computer nerds like us are all about moving bits of information around. We thrive on information, data and ideas. It's what we're all about. And these shootings are a direct result of people trying to restrict the free exchange of ideas, which is the foundation of modern society.
Any computer nerd, in fact anyone who appreciates their modern life, should want to know about anyone who is threatening the free flow of information.
I heard some standard issue left wing apologist halfwit on the radio here this morning in the UK trot out the usual "it was society's fault" rubbish. Yeah, because everyone with a fucking grievance grabs an AK-47 and shoots up a magazine don't they love?
Just what the hell does it take to knock some common sense into these bloody liberals??
Good riddens mother fuckers
Time to leave the Muslim faith. Embrace God, or no god.. But time to stop following the path of the lunatic 7th century warlord pedophile butcher.
Hear, hear!!!!!!!!!
Slashdot's geek cred might go up a little if they dedicated some space to sideboob. They are admittedly aiming for the lowest common denominator.
Let's face it, since Taco sold it, it's never been the same. But what are you gonna do? Unless you're prepared to buy Slashdot from the current owners, or make your own competing website, I think this is still the best we've got. The stories are crap, but the comments out there shows me there's still a lot of good people who frequent this place. That's what I come here for.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
They're coming to take me away, ha ha!
Wrap'em in bacon and pigs' entrails.Hang'em in Muslim ghettos as a message.Put urine soaked Qurans around their necks
as a "bulletproof" vest. Ballistic vests come in different levels: I, II, III, and IIIa. With each level you gain protection against larger, heavier, and faster projectiles. That said, even the highest level of soft armor (IIIA) does not protect against rifles (except where a pistol cartridge is fired from a long gun). To gain protection from rifles you have to add a plate, but that will only cover your most vital organs (lungs and heart) and does not protect against all rifle cartridges.
There are two main gotchyas:
1. The vests and plates only going stop a few projectiles reliably.
2. Even if the shot is "stopped" by the vest/plate, the vast majority still hits you (just spread out a bit more).
+1
And there are christians around the world killing men for being gay (or just being accused of being gay) and girls killed and mutilated for being "witches".
Religion has FUCK ALL to do with god or reality. Tells you nothing about them. What it DOES tell you about are the people who believe in them.
Really, the only difference between these religious people and the religious people you don't mind are that you don't mind the bollocks that they insist god makes them do for the latter. They both believe in the same damn god, and have the same damn proof that god is there.
Tell me, how do you know that their god DOESN'T want them to do this? And if god DOES, then why the hell are you OK with pissing on god's ideas?
Do you know why they are doing this? Every godbotherer and their apologist makes the (socially accepted but dangerous) claim that all you need to do is BELIEVE and that's enough proof for anyone that you're right. You can look at ALL religion as merely the gateway drug to fundamentalist murdering scum like these blokes. Godbotherers enable them, give them all the reason they want. Better, these godbotherers get so pissed off at people telling them they're wrong that they successfuly make it appear that merely by disagreeing with them, you are persecuting them and thereby PROVE that those against them are evil subhumans working for satan (or whoever) and that this PROVES that their religious requirements ARE TRUE.
EVERYTHING those people do are because society makes it acceptable to believe in anything, no matter how unproven, and that anyone gainsaying it are bad people, therefore proving the religious people are "good people".
Send a message to their 7th-century brethren:
"You do this, you rot in hell for all eternity."
Wanna be a murderous religious whack job? We'll use that against you.
Maybe - just maybe - doing things like that will drag Islam into the 21st century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christian_terrorism&oldid=641483564
Of course, most of the victims are non WASP or the countries are non-western, so they don't count.
And of course the terrorists are not real Christians, so they don't count.
Nah, it'll be "The Daily Slash"
They seem intent on living in the dark ages, let's make ourselves a great big golf course
"Conservatives did try to murder the NEA over that!"
Trying to shut a government agency is attempted murder?
So, does that mean trying to shut down a corporation is attempted murder as well?
(Note, I don't want the NEA shut down, but equating it to murdering a person is ridiculous.)
...but thank you, France.
So the jihadi terrorists are all dead. Good.
This is what the French government should now do:
(1) Stuff bacon down their throats,
(2) Wash their bodies in pig blood,
(3) Sew their bodies up in uncured pigskins, and
(4) Bury them facedown with their feet pointing towards Mecca
This might reduce the desire of other Muslims to emulate them.
The LEAST I now expect is for the relevant Muslim leaders to condemn that shit. To declare a fatwa that such behavior is un-Islam and that it is against Islam teachings.
Anything less is at the very least acceptance if not support for this behavior. And that should be enough to discuss forbidding a cult that accepts or supports what we in the western world consider the foundation of being able to live together.
And when we're done with that, let's take a closer look at that Westboro Baptist Church and whether we can get rid of those loonies too while we're at it.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
isn't it hilarious how MI-5 says these attacks show why they need even more super powers... yet forget the fact they had these guys on watch lists for years. I mean, even Santa checks the list twice, right?
Go and say something about Jewish people and see what your free speech gets you (antisemitism) - yeah but that's because of the holocaust right? it doesn't whats happened since then....
They like young girls as brides. So does the old testament. Guess they aren't a faggot pro-feminist SJW like you are.
fucking post that DOES NOT below on SLASHDOT!
Egypt's president called for a religious revolution against extremism.
Now we'll see if others start echoing this...
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A nice list and all, but I will repost my reply that I made to the article itself in disqus
Letter To Iran
The remainder of the 21st century will be the struggle for freedom, especially freedom of thought, between the West and the forces of religious obscurantism represented in their most despicable and abhorrent fashion by fundamentalist, militant Islam.
It is unfortunate that religion is being used to justify violence.
This is not a new story considering the Christians and the Pope sponsored Crusades.
But the difference is that the Christians have mended their ways and these folks are still in the dark ages.
To be a part of the civilized world, the Muslim community really needs a Reformation.
This sound logic from infidels presented with humor is what these cartoonists represented.
This call to leave the dark ages was seen as an insult requiring a violent response.
Given this, it would seem that the only civilized hope is for the moderate Muslim community to deal with it.
Hopefully this will happen.
If it does not, then the only conclusion to draw is that Muslims in general are not moderate.
Freedom of religion requires a bargain.
In order to be permitted to exist, each group has to be willing to accept that other faiths (and non-faiths) can also exist.
To say otherwise defies logic.
Just like the Christians before the Reformation, the Muslim community is not holding to this bargain,
The moderate Muslim community must recognize the seriousness of what they are allowing to happen.
They must deal with it.
Their very survival may depend on it.
They're just cunts.
... it's the least Muslim terrorists should expect.
Slashdot nerds have no problem using the government to bully people into participating in their grand utopian progressive wet-dreams.
... the rejection of being a part of a civilized society
Look, no matter if we are talking about the ancient Jewish texts (the Torah) or the Christian texts (the New Testaments) or the Islamic texts (the Koran) they all contain verses which are really despicable
The difference is that many Moslems today are still preferring to stick with and practice those despicable texts from their Koran, rather than choosing to live like civilized human beings with civilized mindset ; Whilst most of the Jews and the Christians have opted to become civilized
Even among many of those so-called 'moderate Moslems', they too secretly harbor the same sentiment that the Moslems are 'more superior" than the infidels; That the only useful value of the infidels is to become slaves for them, the superior Moslems
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
Pew research shows that approval of terrorist goals (and sometimes terrorist means) is not a fringe in the Muslim world:
Are apparently all lawyers (NOT theologians), mostly Democrats (some were delegates to the Democrat convention that nominated Bill Clinton), mostly related (by blood or marriage) appear to be using the "church thing" as a clever legal protection (it's not like they have a congregation of lots of people from their community who are NOT all relatives), and might well be pro-gay but doing the "false flag" routine; they never seem to protest at places where large numbers of gays would be confronted, but rather seem to prefer to bait people into attacking them by protesting at completely unrelated places where they think some "redneck" might throw a punch and give them a chance to sue (like funerals for fallen soldiers). Their "protests" have NEVER infuenced anybody to be anything other than MORE tolerant of gays. They have quite a history of suing people for violations of their rights and probably get their funding that way.
Does anybody ever think about what it would be like with all those virgins for eternity? They'd STAY virgins because sex is impossible in the after life as defined in the religion. So that is a lot of women to exist with for a long time with zero sex. Also no food or child raising either. So they have no use except as companions for eternity. Just think about some fundamentalist with 72 women who serve no purpose except to talk with... something they are not all that keen women do in the 1st place. You'd be lucky to enjoy the company of just 1 for an eternity.
For some reason after a Christian zealot beheaded his roommate in Stillwater, I never heard my pastor denouce that kind of violence perpeuated in Christianity's name.
I'm guessing your pastor will denounce that kind of violence if he learns significant amount of his congregation thought killing a man for practicing witchcraft was acceptable.
Why does it have to be his own congregation? There are plenty of Christians promoting the killing of child "witches" right now. If we demand Muslims speak up about other Muslims, it's only logical to expect the same of Christians. But we (within the Christian culture) don't, because we're expected to be able to see the difference between Christian lunatics, and the garden variety. We demand this of others because:ignorance. The fact is, all peoples have used, and continue to use, their scriptures to justify evil deeds. Christians like to forget their own not-so-distant past, and ignore their more radical contemporary adherents.
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"moderate Muslims" are like "Ted Kennedy" Catholics ... they're NOT "moderate" they are simply non-practicing.
The problem is that, unlike Christianity or Judaism, their "Holy" writings contain explicit instructions from God, via their "perfect" prophet ordering them to subjugate and kill aybody who is non-Muslim and refuses to convert to Islam (with the exception that "people of The Book" AKA Jews and Christians MAY be permitted to live if they agree to live as 2nd class citizens and pay a special tax). Their writings also demand that anybody who leaves their religion must be killed - and since these writing are from Mohammad, whom they declare a perfect man and spokesman for God, these commands are from God and thus cannot be "reformed" or countermanded, or "re-interpreted" to mean something dripping with less blood.
The Bible, unlike the Koran, only contains violence in four distinct types: [1] accounts of past historical violence, [2] instructions to certain people at certain times and places in the distant past do commit specific acts (generally involving acient Hebrew wars) [3] predictions of future violent events (absent ANY encouragement to try to cause them), and [4] Old Testament severe punishments for various offenses (which Jesus taught Christians to see as God's teaching about how severe those offenses were BUT that that no sinner (and we're all sinners) was justified in inflicting them on another sinner). Much of the Koran's vioolence is in the form of general instructions to kill non believers any where and at any time
"And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers." - Qur'an 2:191
"The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."" - Sahih Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177
Christianity was able to have a "reformation" precisely because devout Christians could go to their fellow Christians and say "look here! that bad stuff you are doing is AGAINST the scriptures you claim to be following." Such a "reformation" is not possible for Islam, because the mis-named "radicals" and "extremists" cna point to their scriptures and prove that THEY are the ones being faithful and the so-called moderates are the real radicals who are NOT following the religion.
Nancy Pelosi advertizing that she's a Catholic and then working to support abortion and gay marriage. She's not setting the agenda of the pope and the cardinals.... she's just a bad catholic. She can denounce the Catholic position on abortion or gay marriage all she wants, but it has NOTHING to do with what any ACTUAL Catholic believes and does.
People do commit violence and terrorist acts in the name of Jesus Christ. The KKK is a notable example of this.
Here are just a few recent examples of terrorist acts committed by Christians for religious reasons that I was able to find with very little research:
Sabra and Shatila massacre
Maronite Christian militias perpetrated the Karantina and Tel al-Zaatar massacres of Palestinians and Lebanese Muslims during Lebanon's 1975–1990 civil war. The 1982 Sabra and Shatila massacre, which targeted unarmed Palestinian refugees for rape and murder, was considered to be genocide by the United Nations General Assembly.[44] A British photographer present during the incident said that "People who committed the acts of murder that I saw that day were wearing [crucifixes] and were calling themselves Christians."[45] After the end of the civil war, Christian militias refused to disband, concentrating in the Israeli-occupied south of the country, where they terrorized Muslim and Druze villages and forcefully recruited men and boys from those communities into their groups.[46]
Utøya Island killings
In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island that killed 77 people. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500-page manifesto detailing his beliefs that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a "Christian crusader" while describing himself as not very religious.[73][74] Although initial news reports described him as a Christian fundamentalist,[75][76] subsequent analyses of his motivations have noted that he did not only display Christian terrorist inclinations, but also had non-religious, right-wing beliefs.[77][78] Mark Juergensmeyer and John Mark Reynolds have stated that the events were Christian terrorism,[79][80] whereas Brad Hirschfield has rejected the Christian terrorist label.[81]
Lord's Resistance Army
The Lord's Resistance Army, a cult and guerrilla army, was engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government in 2005. It has been accused of using child soldiers and of committing numerous crimes against humanity; including massacres, abductions, mutilation, torture, rape, and using forced child labourers as soldiers, porters, and sex slaves.[82] A quasi-religious movement that mixes some aspects of Christian beliefs with its own brand of spiritualism,[83][84] it is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the spokesperson of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the "Holy Spirit" which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations.[85][85][86][87] LRA fighters wear rosary beads and recite passages from the Bible before battle.[83][88][89][90][91][92]
Christian Identity and anti-abortion killings
After 1981, members of groups such as the Army of God began attacking abortion clinics and doctors across the United States.[93][94][95] A number of terrorist attacks were attributed by Bruce Hoffman to individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements, including the Lambs of Christ.[96] A group called Concerned Christians was deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999; they believed that their deaths would "lead them to heaven".[97][98]
The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on 31 May 2009 was the belief that abortion is not only immoral, but also a form of murder under "God's law", irrespective of "man's law" in any country, and that this belief went "hand in hand" with his religious beliefs.[99][100] The group supporting Roeder proclaimed that any force is "legitimate to protect the life of an unborn child", and called on all Christians to "rise up" and "take action" against threats to Christianity and to unborn life.[101] Eric Robert Rud
The very first day of /.'s existence I was here
I didn't think much of it back then, after all, the whole 'website' thing was still new and everyone were still screaming 'cyber this' or 'e-that' or 'i-whatever' and that guy from the Greatful Dead had just posted his famous 'cybernation' declaration, and I was looking for new services where I can get free email addresses (remember usa.net or military.net?)
... but I kept coming back
Only after 5 weeks or so I told myself, "What the hell, just register"
... the rest, as they say, is history
decided to register
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
A Tesla vest? No wonder the guy survived- it was made by Ironman!
The absolute fastest (PCP) still takes 10â"30 seconds to kick in.
How many hostages can you kill in 10â"30 seconds, if you have an AK-47 in your hands?
More from the religion of peace and tolerance.
The problem is not the religion, it's the crazy people who act as if their religion is actually true. Half the world (Christians, Muslims, and Jews) are followers of the God of Abraham, who throughout His early existence as a war god reveled in things that would absolutely disgust most of His current followers. However, most of His followers have learned that, for various reasons, God actually would rather you ignore some of His previous commands that are especially disgusting or inconvenient. This is even true of terrorists -- most terrorism is done for non-religious reasons.
And then if you look at the numbers, you find for example that more terrorist attacks on the US are done by Jewish extremists than by Muslims. And way more than both by Latinos upset about Puerto Rico or Cuba. However, we have peaceful relations with Israel and most Latino countries, as opposed to oil-bearing countries in the Middle East which we have been, are, and will continue to meddle with in the future and conveniently happen to have a different religion. We need more soldiers to defend us against the evil Muslims. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
This is not terrorism. Killing journalists for their opinion is a political murder. Only the method is new: it is gangster-like approach to murdering.
http://news.sky.com/video/1404...
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This was a satirical paper, I think we should more jokes. So here goes my attempt...
Muhammed and Allah walk into the office of a satirical magazine, with their kalashnikovs.
After they're done shooting, Muhammad says to Allah: 'I bet our faces will be all over the papers tomorrow!'
Also, the root cause of it all is geopolitics, religion being a good excuse for brainwashing.
I see lots of good points in this thread as well as fairly typical amounts of invective. And, because of some clever writing, it's occasionally hard to distinguish between the two.
Perhaps I missed it in the flood of back-and-forth, but I haven't seen a reference to the relative ages of Christianity and Islam. Isn't it about five hundred years? So, maybe we might consider how the Catholic Church behaved toward dissent and scientific thought during the (CE) fifteen hundreds... The terms "horrific" and "barbaric" come to mind.
I don't condone or try to justify violence then or now, but I do find it interesting that we are quick to argue about what we see today while we tend to ignore historical patterns.
You are completely correct. In Sharia, 'slander' of Muslims does not mean telling falsehoods (as it does in the West), it means 'anything a Muslims doesn't want to hear' - especially from a 'kafir which is translated as infidel but is a pejorative closer to 'n*gger'. Non-Muslims are considered subhuman by Sharia.
Major Stephen Coughlin lays the truth about Sharia (Islamic Law) out for you:
Stephen Coughlin, Part 2: Understanding the War on Terror Through Islamic Law [58 mins]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Islamicists do not want you to know the truth about Islamic law, and they are obliged to lie to you it if advances Islam (there are for types of deception Islam commands: taqiyya, kitman, tawriya and muruna):
http://www.annaqed.com/en/isla...
http://www.islam-watch.org/aut...
When a Muslim cleric denounces "terrorism and killing of innocents" this is also a deception. Under Sharia, unlawful warfare is anyone who resists jihad. Our counter-terror forces and militaries are thus considered "terrorists" according to Sharia. Similarly, under Sharia "innocents" are Muslims *only*. Non-Muslims can never be innocent, their existence and disbelief is an affront to Allah (who is the Nabatean chief god Dushara).
So when a Muslim cleric condemns "terrorism and killing of innocents" they are condemning the West for killing Muslims and jihadis. They are using the "kitman" deception that Islam obliges them to.
In order to condemn the Charlie Hebdo attacks a Muslim cleric would have to use the words "we condemn jihadis and the killing of all civilians". But they do not - because they agree with the jihadis, as Islamic scripture requires them to.
The precedent for slaughtering the critics of Islamic evil comes from evil Mohammed himself, who ordered many assassinations of his critics:
http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/...
Of course, all of the claims of Islam are false. Historical evidence is emerging that PROVES the claims made about the origins of Islam are all completely false:
" An Historical Critique of Islam's Beginnings - Jay Smith " [72 mins]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Muslims who know about this scholarship want to suppress it - they are afraid of how the truth with cause their superstition to disintegrate and stop the global jihad in its tracks.
THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/...
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