Heh nooooo I am not the same as the slashdot micjael. The fact that we have the same name is just coincidence I tell you! Really, if I could post and approve stories to/. dont you think I'd have hundreds of stories promoting my companies by now {:-)
Tux Games is now listing the game here. We will, as always, report the sales of any game from our store as a Linux sale, to try and encourage further porting of Linux products.
Why is it that WINE is greeted with such enthusiasm by those it is damaging?
Has anyone that supports WINE actually given a thought to what happens if this is the way things go? Let me once again state the blindingly obvious timeline that WINE leads us to
1) WINE improves its windows emulation, more games work under Linux than ever before. 2) Development of native Linux games is pretty much destroyed by WINE emulation because the few porting companies struggling to survive at this early stage cannot hope to keep up with dozens of well funded windows development companies. 3) Emulated games become the norm. By definition they are slower than native, less reliable, but we can sacrifice reliability because we can play games NOW! 4) As Linux games are all now emulated, sales figures for Linux games are all showing up as Windows sales. Linux sales figures effectively become zero, giving no incentive for any software company to produce native ports. 5) Microsoft, who though evil are damned clever with their lawyers, finds a nice little legal way to kill WINE, through a patent issue, or some DMCA clone or who knows. WINE development stops. 6) New games stop running on Linux because WINE cant support DirectX 12 or whatever the latest version is. Nobody thinks to worry about it in the game development companies because Linux sales figures are zero (see 4). 7) Linux gets less games that will work. The companies that busted their balls trying to make native Linux gaming viable, companies like Tux Games, Loki and LGP have all long since gone. 8) With nobody left to support Linux gaming, Linux gaming dies. 9) With no new games, Linux desktop becomes less attractive and people happily move back to windows so they can play the latest games NOW (see 3) 10) Bill Gates sends thankyou letter to Transgaming and other WINE supporters.
Any questions?
Sure I am a biased party. That is because by founding Tux Games, I have put my money where my mouth is and bet the whole house on native Linux because unlike Transgaming, I BELIEVE THAT LINUX DOES NOT NEED TO USE WINDOWS AS A CRUTCH AND THAT LINUX IS A DAMNED FINE OS IN ITS OWN RIGHT..
Note: Tux Games has been offered time and again, the opportunity to carry Transgaming games. We are well aware that if we did so, we would make more money, but we STRONGLY believe in the above timeline threat, and so we put our morals where our mouth is and stand by Linux native. Want to do the same? Then dont inflate Windows sales figures, support those that are working all hours to bring YOU new products.
The way we will be doing it is we will be waiting till there is a Linux client before we ship. This is for two reasons:
a ) Most people who order from us are not interested in the Windows client, so shipping twice is just a waste of money for us (we will have to eat the cost of a second shipping, and that is not a negligable cost based on how many copies we have sold).
b ) We have news that there is a possibility of an actual Linux release - instead of a downloadable addon to the Windows version. If this happens, then the Windows version WILL NOT WORK for Linux.
However, if one of our customers wishes for us to ship the Windows version, we will do so anyway, on the condition they understand that the game they receive may never work under Linux if a dedicated Linux version IS released.
Yes, as with all games that are released like this, we will create an installer CD that installs using the original published CD. Doing it any other way would have a dozen lawyers on our backs within about 3.2 seconds.
The Linux version will be available as a downloadable addon to the windows CD. As such your Linux vote will get lost in the Windows numbers.
PLEASE either do one of the following: Send in your registration card with the Linux box ticked, or buy from Tux Games who will be reporting back each and every sale we get as a Linux sale.
We did the same for Wolfenstein and had positive response from our numbers we handed in to id. We intend to do the same for NWN and hopefully ensure more games get ported.
Whichever way you do it, DO IT. Unless you make your voice heard, they wont listen.
If you want to make sure that, if you buy it for Linux it is registered AS a linux version, please do one of the following:
REMEMBER to send in your registration card and tick the Linux box (or as is more likely add on a Linux box because they forgot to put one on
Buy it from a Linux retailer that has pledged to report all sales of the game to the publisher AS Linux sales. We at Tux Games are doing this, and you can preorder here.
Please do not forget to do one of these things, or the vast majority of Linux sales will just be written off as windows sales, and that will NOT help to get us the greater recognition by game developers that we all need.
Even though Loki will be missed, its not the end.
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Even though this has happened, Linux Games are not going away.
Tux Games still has Loki stock. We buy from a lot of other places too.
There is a new porting company out there, Linux Game Publishing who have already released one title, and have another announced. Dont forget NeverwinterNights is coming too. Return to Castle Wolfenstein has just been released, and is looking to be one of the most popular games we've ever had.
Yes, we will all miss Loki, and yes it is very sad.
BUT the game goes on, games will keep appearing - lets just try and make sure that people BUY them this time, and stop this happening again.
ZiLOG intends to launch an exchange offer in which all holders of its notes will be offered the opportunity to exchange their notes for shares of ZiLOG common stock, plus a pro rata share of the $30 million non-recourse note. The exchange offer, which for tax and other legal reasons the company intends to complete through a prepackaged Chapter 11 filing, is not expected to have any adverse affect on its day-to-day operations or on its ability to provide a full range of products and services to its customers or pay its suppliers on normal terms.
I know that for now, Evil Dead 4 is a non-starter (tho we all hope it happens one day). But my question is this: If it ever happened to be made, which ending of Army of Darkness would you prefer to work from? The 'S-Mart' ending or the 'End of the World' ending?
I cannot find a copy of the Press Release on the Loki site, but there is a copy of it here at linuxgames.com.
While I am on the subject, Tux Games is expecting our latest stock of Kohan to arrive with Fed-Ex later today, so order now and you should get it shipped tomorrow morning.
OK, there are several ways people can help here. The first and foremost is to speak with your wallets. Go to Loki or to Tux Games and buy things.
Other ways you can help are to link from your webpages to Loki or to Tux Games. This will help spread the word, because a surprisingly large number of people DO NOT KNOW about Linux gaming. (Linking via the Tux Games affiliate program can also make you some money).
Whichever you do, do something. Loki has provided us with great games over the last few years, and now its time for us all to pay them back.
IANAL and I am also English, but with statements like this, the court has evidenced bias pre-trial and that has GOT to be grounds for a mistrial or at least a damned good appeal.
Open source doesnt need a leader. We already have a leader. OURSELVES. Open source lets ANY one of us become a leader, if, by ability and personality, we are capable of it. Why appoint anyone? The fluid leadership status of various projects gives those projects a far greater dynamic than a project where you are forced to work under someone, regardless of their suitability.
Fair enough, I did a search and came up with nothing. I did the same search now and got 2 items about it. I guess the BBC search engine was being funny when I looked
In contracts I am writing up at the moment, there are standard confidentiality clauses. This means, that for anyone to be released from a confidentiality clause, then teh information has to be legally published. Even if EVERYONE knows about it because ofa virus or a leak, anyone using it is doing so illegally and may be prosecuted for stealing trade secrets.
If they delete it, no problem, if they keep it, big illegal problems.
IANAL, but I hired one and thats what they said.
If you want to see free reporting, look to the BBC. Yes all the brits, myself included, hate the fact we have to pay a licence to own a TV, but this means we have a corporation in the UK that does NOT depend on advertising for its revenues. It can report on what needs to be reported. If it annoys people, who cares because they CANNOT lose their revenue.
The BBC is IMHO the best source of news. Unfortunately being a british institution they dont have any report on this, but maybe it is a model the US government should follow. It sure works in the UK as a medium for fair reporting.
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Heh nooooo I am not the same as the slashdot micjael. The fact that we have the same name is just coincidence I tell you! /. dont you think I'd have hundreds of stories promoting my companies by now {:-)
Really, if I could post and approve stories to
Tux Games is now listing the game here. We will, as always, report the sales of any game from our store as a Linux sale, to try and encourage further porting of Linux products.
Been going for years
Creature Labs
And for Linux...
Has anyone that supports WINE actually given a thought to what happens if this is the way things go? Let me once again state the blindingly obvious timeline that WINE leads us to
1) WINE improves its windows emulation, more games work under Linux than ever before.
2) Development of native Linux games is pretty much destroyed by WINE emulation because the few porting companies struggling to survive at this early stage cannot hope to keep up with dozens of well funded windows development companies.
3) Emulated games become the norm. By definition they are slower than native, less reliable, but we can sacrifice reliability because we can play games NOW!
4) As Linux games are all now emulated, sales figures for Linux games are all showing up as Windows sales. Linux sales figures effectively become zero, giving no incentive for any software company to produce native ports.
5) Microsoft, who though evil are damned clever with their lawyers, finds a nice little legal way to kill WINE, through a patent issue, or some DMCA clone or who knows. WINE development stops.
6) New games stop running on Linux because WINE cant support DirectX 12 or whatever the latest version is. Nobody thinks to worry about it in the game development companies because Linux sales figures are zero (see 4).
7) Linux gets less games that will work. The companies that busted their balls trying to make native Linux gaming viable, companies like Tux Games, Loki and LGP have all long since gone.
8) With nobody left to support Linux gaming, Linux gaming dies.
9) With no new games, Linux desktop becomes less attractive and people happily move back to windows so they can play the latest games NOW (see 3)
10) Bill Gates sends thankyou letter to Transgaming and other WINE supporters.
Any questions?
Sure I am a biased party. That is because by founding Tux Games, I have put my money where my mouth is and bet the whole house on native Linux because unlike Transgaming, I BELIEVE THAT LINUX DOES NOT NEED TO USE WINDOWS AS A CRUTCH AND THAT LINUX IS A DAMNED FINE OS IN ITS OWN RIGHT..
Note: Tux Games has been offered time and again, the opportunity to carry Transgaming games. We are well aware that if we did so, we would make more money, but we STRONGLY believe in the above timeline threat, and so we put our morals where our mouth is and stand by Linux native. Want to do the same? Then dont inflate Windows sales figures, support those that are working all hours to bring YOU new products.
a ) Most people who order from us are not interested in the Windows client, so shipping twice is just a waste of money for us (we will have to eat the cost of a second shipping, and that is not a negligable cost based on how many copies we have sold).
b ) We have news that there is a possibility of an actual Linux release - instead of a downloadable addon to the Windows version. If this happens, then the Windows version WILL NOT WORK for Linux.
However, if one of our customers wishes for us to ship the Windows version, we will do so anyway, on the condition they understand that the game they receive may never work under Linux if a dedicated Linux version IS released.
Yes, as with all games that are released like this, we will create an installer CD that installs using the original published CD. Doing it any other way would have a dozen lawyers on our backs within about 3.2 seconds.
We did the same for Wolfenstein and had positive response from our numbers we handed in to id. We intend to do the same for NWN and hopefully ensure more games get ported.
Whichever way you do it, DO IT. Unless you make your voice heard, they wont listen.
If you want to make sure that, if you buy it for Linux it is registered AS a linux version, please do one of the following:
REMEMBER to send in your registration card and tick the Linux box (or as is more likely add on a Linux box because they forgot to put one on
Buy it from a Linux retailer that has pledged to report all sales of the game to the publisher AS Linux sales. We at Tux Games are doing this, and you can preorder here.
Please do not forget to do one of these things, or the vast majority of Linux sales will just be written off as windows sales, and that will NOT help to get us the greater recognition by game developers that we all need.
Even though this has happened, Linux Games are not going away.
Tux Games still has Loki stock. We buy from a lot of other places too.
There is a new porting company out there, Linux Game Publishing who have already released one title, and have another announced. Dont forget NeverwinterNights is coming too. Return to Castle Wolfenstein has just been released, and is looking to be one of the most popular games we've ever had.
Yes, we will all miss Loki, and yes it is very sad.
BUT the game goes on, games will keep appearing - lets just try and make sure that people BUY them this time, and stop this happening again.
ZiLOG intends to launch an exchange offer in which all holders of its notes will be offered the opportunity to exchange their notes for shares of ZiLOG common stock, plus a pro rata share of the $30 million non-recourse note. The exchange offer, which for tax and other legal reasons the company intends to complete through a prepackaged Chapter 11 filing, is not expected to have any adverse affect on its day-to-day operations or on its ability to provide a full range of products and services to its customers or pay its suppliers on normal terms.
I dont think we have much to worry about here.
Hi,
I know that for now, Evil Dead 4 is a non-starter (tho we all hope it happens one day). But my question is this: If it ever happened to be made, which ending of Army of Darkness would you prefer to work from? The 'S-Mart' ending or the 'End of the World' ending?
For anyone wanting to buy, Tux Games. Its out of stock but new stock expected tomorrow.
I am not quite sure where you get the idea it isnt in development. The ftp site has a new tarball as of two days ago.
You can buy this at a reduced price from Tux Games
We have the following non-violent games at Tux Games
Erics Ultimate Solitaire
Krilo
Mindrover
Railroad Tycoon II
Reel Deal Slots (tho this is gambling so maybe not)
Wurstelstand
Mindrover and Krilo especially are good for problem solving.
I cannot find a copy of the Press Release on the Loki site, but there is a copy of it here at linuxgames.com.
While I am on the subject, Tux Games is expecting our latest stock of Kohan to arrive with Fed-Ex later today, so order now and you should get it shipped tomorrow morning.
Other ways you can help are to link from your webpages to Loki or to Tux Games. This will help spread the word, because a surprisingly large number of people DO NOT KNOW about Linux gaming. (Linking via the Tux Games affiliate program can also make you some money).
Whichever you do, do something. Loki has provided us with great games over the last few years, and now its time for us all to pay them back.
You can pre-order this title through Tux Games.
The price is $46, and we hope to ship at the same time as Loki ships.
IANAL and I am also English, but with statements like this, the court has evidenced bias pre-trial and that has GOT to be grounds for a mistrial or at least a damned good appeal.
Open source doesnt need a leader. We already have a leader. OURSELVES. Open source lets ANY one of us become a leader, if, by ability and personality, we are capable of it. Why appoint anyone? The fluid leadership status of various projects gives those projects a far greater dynamic than a project where you are forced to work under someone, regardless of their suitability.
Fair enough, I did a search and came up with nothing. I did the same search now and got 2 items about it. I guess the BBC search engine was being funny when I looked
In contracts I am writing up at the moment, there are standard confidentiality clauses. This means, that for anyone to be released from a confidentiality clause, then teh information has to be legally published. Even if EVERYONE knows about it because ofa virus or a leak, anyone using it is doing so illegally and may be prosecuted for stealing trade secrets.
If they delete it, no problem, if they keep it, big illegal problems.
IANAL, but I hired one and thats what they said.
If you want to see free reporting, look to the BBC. Yes all the brits, myself included, hate the fact we have to pay a licence to own a TV, but this means we have a corporation in the UK that does NOT depend on advertising for its revenues. It can report on what needs to be reported. If it annoys people, who cares because they CANNOT lose their revenue.
The BBC is IMHO the best source of news. Unfortunately being a british institution they dont have any report on this, but maybe it is a model the US government should follow. It sure works in the UK as a medium for fair reporting.
It MAY be an innocant person that bought a second hand computer. Id go with the cop method, not the Radek method.
This shows that public opinion can work through petitions. Go sign the petitions at the Tux Games Petitions Page.