Darl McPhisto... Lord of Uncertainty Stevablo Balmer.... Lord of Fear Baal Gates.... Lord of Doubt
Stevablo II Lord of FUD from Gizzard entertainment
special guests:
Larry Ellison as Duracle Carly Fiorina as Andariel (figure some pun out here)
Scott McNealy as the Sunmoaner
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Since 1997 Intel has been promoting the Itanium line as the inevitable successor for every other server processor on the market. Despite the early vaporware status, Intel has been very successful, at least in terms of marketing. With the exception of it's mainframes systems, even IBM ships Itanium systems that directly compete with their own Power processors.
How incredibly arrogant of Intel. Itanium was and still is for the most part a failure. Itanium 2 doesn't address the problems with Itanium and unless things change drastically it will either fail or be only a marginal success. IBM's biggest investment is in z-Series and p-Series. POWER4 wipes the floor with Intel's ass. I don't understand how an incredibly late to the game company decides it IS the end all and be all of 64 bit. MIPS has been 64 bit since 1993 with the R4K. Sun has been 64 bit since the Ultra 1. Alpha... 21064...etc. etc. etc. Intel makes garbage second rate processors.... so even while Itanium has many merits over IA32, it's still a rehash of what has come before and has been implemented better by other vendors.
FYI: Mac OS X's core (darwin) is dirrived from FreeBSD therefore, it must be direived from a UNIX.
OS X userland is updated to the FreeBSD versions for many things. OS X is not derived from FreeBSD. OS X is derived from OPENSTEP which was an evolutionary product to NEXTSTEP which derived some of it's userland from BSD Lite 4.4 or 4.2 (I can't remember what version at the time). It's a strange beast, however, since it hosts the userland on Mach 3.0. Formerly Mach 2.x for the *STEPs
My advice to Apple is to have more trust in the computing public. Embrace more open standards and don't feel so threatened if others can compete with you. This only adds value to your products and your company. Have you not learned anything in all these years? Don't simply private label FreeBSD as an "Apple Innovation". That will not work. Champion the marketplace and have faith that you will be rewarded for not being selfish. It really sounds stupid in today's economic age, but what has made Apple survive (aside from Microsoft needing it to shunt monopoly arguments) has been the loyalty of its users. Give them freedom and you gain even more loyalty.
They don't private label FreeBSD. OS X is based on their own work which includes some of BSD 4.4 in user-space. It was called OPENSTEP... and before that NEXTSTEP. Everything about the graphical environment and programming environment belonged to NeXT and was designed there. WebObjects came from NeXT. OS X has ported newer BSD utilities from FreeBSD as opposed to the older OPENSTEP versions, but it isn't FreeBSD. It's OPENSTEP 6.3 Mach for PPC if you will.
Then they closed everything up and tried to go proprietary. Apple to me was always the underdog but their openness really gave them a chance to make it. But as soon as they achieved a substantive degree of success, the company got greedy and tried to monopolize the market. IBM stole their thunder by copying their open architecture design and having more resources. Apple got too greedy, too early and it cost them.
This implies that they were the only ones writing software or manufacturing drivers and devices for their machines. No hardware company operates that way completely anymore. Apple was no more proprietary than IBM or Sun when it came to non x86 machines. A proper balance between controlling the architecture in question and completely opening it is required to maintain good profit for a single vendor as well as uniform compatibility and direction. IBM blew it by giving away the PC spec and allowing Compaq and others to copy it. Maybe if they hadn't, we might have a real x86 machine with a firmware instead of a crappy IBM kludgy BIOS that was designed to last a year tops... and is still in use today.
Someone else mentioned the early macs being proprietary with all these special things... Apple Bus?.. um Nubus is an IEEE standard... there were many 3rd party Nubus cards and only a few Apple ones. The only thing that people can really actually complain about was the fact that it was hard to open the original Mac and you weren't expected to... well the original Mac was "not designed to be expandable internally" It was a consumer box. If you wanted expandable you bought the Mac II series... these were some of the most expandable Macs on the market for several years including some of the Quadra years. Many Nubus slots... lots of space for RAM... lots of space (relatively) for hard disks. I used to run OpenBSD on a IIx with a 1GB FH 5.25" drive that was in a PC XT case with the ribbon run out the slot holes and into the Mac IIx via slot holes... that was certainly a sight.
I don't think people understand the many shades of what "proprietary" means. It's an incredible misnomer for what is actually going on in the computer industry.... True the "Steve" doesn't like clones... but what decent hardware (i.e. real computer manufacturer) vendor would? Clones cause incompatiblity, bite into your bottom line, increase support costs, and generally lower the quality of your product over time as well as its impact as an "innovative and elegant" architecture. Maybe a Sun model would have been better since the Sun clones never really took down Sun, but that's an entirely different market dynamic... Apple markets to consumers, and consumers see $ figures...irrationally so at times... heck they buy eMachines boxen (blech)
Diablo 2 Lord of Destruction... Epic in its own right.
and I am also a Star Control II addict (which apparently was available for the Mac at one time as well as the 3DO -- the version currently being ported back to many platforms as The Urquan Masters)
Return to Castle Wolfenstein is good on the Mac as well.
It is happening. They have no compelling products anymore. They have no compelling business model. They are faced with A. do the same as they have always done (won't grow the market share) B. manhandle future and current customers some more (at this point the customers are pissed and won't take it anymore) C. spread some more FUD or manipulate companies like SCO to try to destroy Linux et. al. (won't work either). They should indeed break themselves up... they are unwieldy and non-competative. I find it so laughable that they think they can innovate a "quantum leap in computing" that will put them ahead of all competitors when they've never innovated anything in the entire history of the company. MS software by definition cannot be ahead of everyone else due to Draconian license and activation measures... ahead of everyone else means unencumbered user experience among many other qualifiers... I'd certainly sum it up by saying they'd have to make the user feel like they not only have a choice but that their software is the right choice...and still on equal footing in terms of resources spent to make such a choice.
It never ceases to amaze me how ill-informed people are. Sun has been battered heavily in the stock market, but they aren't "drying" up. There is no way PC architectures will replace "real computers"...they just aren't made to do that kind of job properly. If you're going clock for clock on silly single-user apps, maybe but when are you going to find a partitioned 512 processor PC (in one box) that heals itself and scales as well as Starfire. x86 is junk pure and simple. Opterons are being considered by Sun in the same way as Intel procs made their way into Sun's product list in the form of Cobalt. Sun isn't replacing Sparc with Opteron... that would be utterly retarded and Sun isn' retarded like HP is (read scrapping Tandem, PA-RISC, and Alpha for an unproven architecture that they don't control). Check out the specs on the USIV. Opteron is all about migrating customers off of 32 bit machines onto the Solaris platform. It is a step up to Sparc. Sparc based systems have been 64 bit since Solaris 7 and the Ultra 1 140. That's roughly 1995 or so.
(And at 5k each, Sun Workstations and SGI boxen are not to the average college student).
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Well I don't know about you, but I got a Sun Ultra 2 300Mhz with 256MB RAM, a 9.1GB disk, and Creator 3D Series 3 for $480 shipped. Pop in a second 300Mhz proc and a bit more RAM (2GB max) and you have a fine 64 bit workstation using Solaris 9. If you want you can also stick in two 400Mhz Ultrasparcs but those are still a bit pricey.
Gates is no dummy, but he's not a bright businessman either... he's a really bright crook and an extremely unethical businessman. There is quite a difference there.
Really bright crooks commit crimes of ethics that are totally legal by the letter of the law (although not always: read anti-trust)
I was excluding Jobs on purpose. They have a different platform (PPC). I meant that there is now way to differentiate yourself when everybody and their brother makes x86 boxen... from the screwdriver shops all the way up to the HP's and Compaqs... there is no value add...just plenty of useless shovel-ware and ugly bad plastic.
HP consolidates its business in printers, scientific equipment, HP9000's, and storage. All the things they are good at... Then they start working with the Linux crowd like IBM does, while maintaining HP-UX above that. Dump Carly, Dump PC's, and dump Compaq... oh and dump Itanium too. Let's keep our hands on our crown jewel technologies why don't we... Wishful thinking... PC makers don't get it... there is simply no way to differentiate yourself in this market or under Intel or MS's umbrella... a PC is a PC is a PC..
Nice to see someone with almost the exact same background. I too was a synthetic organic chemist and worked in new leads and combi-chem for a year and a half before I totally decided to go back to what I'd loved since high school. Network engineering and systems administration. I eventually want to get either an advanced comp sci degree or an electrical engineering degree or both, and I was wondering as well what the quickest, cheapest, and most prestigious path (or one that allows me to finish out at a very prestigious institution). I highly doubt I'll have to do all the liberal arts stuff over again since I already have a BS.
I say let all purchases in hardware and software for all schools be effectively free for a year or two. If they want PC's, MS pays for it... if they want Macs, MS pays for it... if they want SGI's... MS pays for it. All software and support should be effectively free. If they want Appleworks, MS pays for it... if they want Office... MS gives it away. Better yet... force MS to price its own products above the open market or require them not to sell a single one of their products to education for a year or two.
Actually all the software has long passed the break even point into immense profits. So yes it costs them nothing. By giving it away for free they harm a small percentage of their profit on the product category as a whole. Well beyond their operating costs and development effort. Also well beyond their support costs.
It's not just lately. UPS always breaks stuff. I bought an HP Laserjet III with a Postscript cartridge off of Ebay for $189. It arrived with chunks of plastic missing and the whole frame bent. It took nearly 3 weeks for UPS to pay my auctioneer back and for him to ship another one. Luckily the second one arrived and was in beautiful shape. The package looked like they drove a tractor over it. I recommend Fed-Ex for everything... worst I've seen is black rubber scuff marks on their packages but no dent damage to the cardboard.
Besides anyone who would intentionally damage other people's stuff especially if it says fragile should be shot... F*rking no-self-respect a**wipes.
Yes, it's not really funny, but hey, I don't make the rules around here. I actually enjoy adbuster's "The Beauty Industry is the Beast" campaign. But, for christ-sakes, don't kid yourself. "Obese" is not beautiful.
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Says you.
I'm not going to bother explaining the concept of FA's and BBW to you...but a simple web search will indicate thousands of pertinent sites.
starting with http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com but then again what do you care? My only point of contention is the rather callous idea that 1. anyone would pretend to be interested in someone because they were desparate (which is cruel) and 2. You automatically assume large women of ANY size should be desparate and receptive... (Fat == ugly)... a small-minded media fed point of view. No size of person including super-sized people should have to deal with any negative comments on their size... the same goes for race, religion, height, etc. etc. etc. Nor does anyone have the right to pass judgement on an entire class of people even if society seems to.
Now, go be a good boy(girl) and have a good day.
Regards,
Guy who loves BBW
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Just because a woman is large doesn't mean she is auto-magically desperate. Your comment was highly thoughtless. You could've just left out the size part... too many people these days are killing themselves to fit a Hollywood image.
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What happened to the cute tree logo they used to have?... or was that OLD SCO (better SCO)
starring...
.... Lord of Fear .... Lord of Doubt
Darl McPhisto... Lord of Uncertainty
Stevablo Balmer
Baal Gates
Stevablo II Lord of FUD from Gizzard entertainment
special guests:
Larry Ellison as Duracle
Carly Fiorina as Andariel (figure some pun out here)
Scott McNealy as the Sunmoaner
How incredibly arrogant of Intel. Itanium was and still is for the most part a failure. Itanium 2 doesn't address the problems with Itanium and unless things change drastically it will either fail or be only a marginal success. IBM's biggest investment is in z-Series and p-Series. POWER4 wipes the floor with Intel's ass. I don't understand how an incredibly late to the game company decides it IS the end all and be all of 64 bit. MIPS has been 64 bit since 1993 with the R4K. Sun has been 64 bit since the Ultra 1. Alpha... 21064...etc. etc. etc. Intel makes garbage second rate processors.... so even while Itanium has many merits over IA32, it's still a rehash of what has come before and has been implemented better by other vendors.
OS X userland is updated to the FreeBSD versions for many things. OS X is not derived from FreeBSD. OS X is derived from OPENSTEP which was an evolutionary product to NEXTSTEP which derived some of it's userland from BSD Lite 4.4 or 4.2 (I can't remember what version at the time). It's a strange beast, however, since it hosts the userland on Mach 3.0. Formerly Mach 2.x for the *STEPs
They don't private label FreeBSD. OS X is based on their own work which includes some of BSD 4.4 in user-space. It was called OPENSTEP... and before that NEXTSTEP. Everything about the graphical environment and programming environment belonged to NeXT and was designed there. WebObjects came from NeXT. OS X has ported newer BSD utilities from FreeBSD as opposed to the older OPENSTEP versions, but it isn't FreeBSD. It's OPENSTEP 6.3 Mach for PPC if you will.
This implies that they were the only ones writing software or manufacturing drivers and devices for their machines. No hardware company operates that way completely anymore. Apple was no more proprietary than IBM or Sun when it came to non x86 machines. A proper balance between controlling the architecture in question and completely opening it is required to maintain good profit for a single vendor as well as uniform compatibility and direction. IBM blew it by giving away the PC spec and allowing Compaq and others to copy it. Maybe if they hadn't, we might have a real x86 machine with a firmware instead of a crappy IBM kludgy BIOS that was designed to last a year tops... and is still in use today.
Someone else mentioned the early macs being proprietary with all these special things... Apple Bus?.. um Nubus is an IEEE standard... there were many 3rd party Nubus cards and only a few Apple ones. The only thing that people can really actually complain about was the fact that it was hard to open the original Mac and you weren't expected to... well the original Mac was "not designed to be expandable internally" It was a consumer box. If you wanted expandable you bought the Mac II series... these were some of the most expandable Macs on the market for several years including some of the Quadra years. Many Nubus slots... lots of space for RAM... lots of space (relatively) for hard disks. I used to run OpenBSD on a IIx with a 1GB FH 5.25" drive that was in a PC XT case with the ribbon run out the slot holes and into the Mac IIx via slot holes... that was certainly a sight.
I don't think people understand the many shades of what "proprietary" means. It's an incredible misnomer for what is actually going on in the computer industry.... True the "Steve" doesn't like clones... but what decent hardware (i.e. real computer manufacturer) vendor would? Clones cause incompatiblity, bite into your bottom line, increase support costs, and generally lower the quality of your product over time as well as its impact as an "innovative and elegant" architecture. Maybe a Sun model would have been better since the Sun clones never really took down Sun, but that's an entirely different market dynamic... Apple markets to consumers, and consumers see $ figures...irrationally so at times... heck they buy eMachines boxen (blech)
Blizzard games...
Diablo 2 Lord of Destruction... Epic in its own right.
and I am also a Star Control II addict (which apparently was available for the Mac at one time as well as the 3DO -- the version currently being ported back to many platforms as The Urquan Masters)
Return to Castle Wolfenstein is good on the Mac as well.
It is happening. They have no compelling products anymore. They have no compelling business model. They are faced with A. do the same as they have always done (won't grow the market share) B. manhandle future and current customers some more (at this point the customers are pissed and won't take it anymore) C. spread some more FUD or manipulate companies like SCO to try to destroy Linux et. al. (won't work either). They should indeed break themselves up... they are unwieldy and non-competative. I find it so laughable that they think they can innovate a "quantum leap in computing" that will put them ahead of all competitors when they've never innovated anything in the entire history of the company. MS software by definition cannot be ahead of everyone else due to Draconian license and activation measures... ahead of everyone else means unencumbered user experience among many other qualifiers... I'd certainly sum it up by saying they'd have to make the user feel like they not only have a choice but that their software is the right choice...and still on equal footing in terms of resources spent to make such a choice.
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It never ceases to amaze me how ill-informed people are. Sun has been battered heavily in the stock market, but they aren't "drying" up. There is no way PC architectures will replace "real computers"...they just aren't made to do that kind of job properly. If you're going clock for clock on silly single-user apps, maybe but when are you going to find a partitioned 512 processor PC (in one box) that heals itself and scales as well as Starfire. x86 is junk pure and simple. Opterons are being considered by Sun in the same way as Intel procs made their way into Sun's product list in the form of Cobalt. Sun isn't replacing Sparc with Opteron... that would be utterly retarded and Sun isn' retarded like HP is (read scrapping Tandem, PA-RISC, and Alpha for an unproven architecture that they don't control). Check out the specs on the USIV. Opteron is all about migrating customers off of 32 bit machines onto the Solaris platform. It is a step up to Sparc. Sparc based systems have been 64 bit since Solaris 7 and the Ultra 1 140. That's roughly 1995 or so.
ROOOOXXXAANANNE! you don't have to put on the RED LIGHT.... you don't have to show your DVD to the night....
Man I got the blues... those MPAA Blue light DVD blues...
(And at 5k each, Sun Workstations and SGI boxen are not to the average college student).
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Well I don't know about you, but I got a Sun Ultra 2 300Mhz with 256MB RAM, a 9.1GB disk, and Creator 3D Series 3 for $480 shipped. Pop in a second 300Mhz proc and a bit more RAM (2GB max) and you have a fine 64 bit workstation using Solaris 9. If you want you can also stick in two 400Mhz Ultrasparcs but those are still a bit pricey.
And pianos
Maybe a piano made out of CD-R/RW material...nah too Liberacci
Sounds like a career limiting move.
How long did that job last anyways?
Gates is no dummy, but he's not a bright businessman either... he's a really bright crook and an extremely unethical businessman. There is quite a difference there.
Really bright crooks commit crimes of ethics that are totally legal by the letter of the law (although not always: read anti-trust)
It is not the New York ISP.
Steve Jobs is a pc maker, not a PC maker... :-)
I was excluding Jobs on purpose. They have a different platform (PPC). I meant that there is now way to differentiate yourself when everybody and their brother makes x86 boxen... from the screwdriver shops all the way up to the HP's and Compaqs... there is no value add...just plenty of useless shovel-ware and ugly bad plastic.
What should happen is this:
HP consolidates its business in printers, scientific equipment, HP9000's, and storage. All the things they are good at... Then they start working with the Linux crowd like IBM does, while maintaining HP-UX above that. Dump Carly, Dump PC's, and dump Compaq... oh and dump Itanium too. Let's keep our hands on our crown jewel technologies why don't we... Wishful thinking... PC makers don't get it... there is simply no way to differentiate yourself in this market or under Intel or MS's umbrella... a PC is a PC is a PC..
Nice to see someone with almost the exact same background. I too was a synthetic organic chemist and worked in new leads and combi-chem for a year and a half before I totally decided to go back to what I'd loved since high school. Network engineering and systems administration. I eventually want to get either an advanced comp sci degree or an electrical engineering degree or both, and I was wondering as well what the quickest, cheapest, and most prestigious path (or one that allows me to finish out at a very prestigious institution). I highly doubt I'll have to do all the liberal arts stuff over again since I already have a BS.
I say let all purchases in hardware and software for all schools be effectively free for a year or two. If they want PC's, MS pays for it... if they want Macs, MS pays for it... if they want SGI's... MS pays for it. All software and support should be effectively free. If they want Appleworks, MS pays for it... if they want Office... MS gives it away. Better yet... force MS to price its own products above the open market or require them not to sell a single one of their products to education for a year or two.
how long until our planet is graced with Genetically-Engineered Super-Models?
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Gag I hope not.
Damn Boy-body 6 ft tall 90 lb skin damaged scaffolding with a blonde wig and implants... sick. (looks even worse when the paint (er makeup) comes off)
I certainly hope that's not all we have to choose from someday..
Hey Windows 2000 at an ATM isn't bad... you haven't had an ATM crash on you and reboot showing Windows 95...
That was sick... it was at Bank of New York.
-- My brother also had this happen but the Win95 ATM took his card.
Actually all the software has long passed the break even point into immense profits. So yes it costs them nothing. By giving it away for free they harm a small percentage of their profit on the product category as a whole. Well beyond their operating costs and development effort. Also well beyond their support costs.
It's not just lately. UPS always breaks stuff. I bought an HP Laserjet III with a Postscript cartridge off of Ebay for $189. It arrived with chunks of plastic missing and the whole frame bent. It took nearly 3 weeks for UPS to pay my auctioneer back and for him to ship another one. Luckily the second one arrived and was in beautiful shape. The package looked like they drove a tractor over it. I recommend Fed-Ex for everything... worst I've seen is black rubber scuff marks on their packages but no dent damage to the cardboard.
Besides anyone who would intentionally damage other people's stuff especially if it says fragile should be shot... F*rking no-self-respect a**wipes.
yeah and one doesn't have to carry so much junk around either.
Yes, it's not really funny, but hey, I don't make the rules around here. I actually enjoy adbuster's "The Beauty Industry is the Beast" campaign. But, for christ-sakes, don't kid yourself. "Obese" is not beautiful.
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Says you. I'm not going to bother explaining the concept of FA's and BBW to you...but a simple web search will indicate thousands of pertinent sites. starting with http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com but then again what do you care? My only point of contention is the rather callous idea that 1. anyone would pretend to be interested in someone because they were desparate (which is cruel) and 2. You automatically assume large women of ANY size should be desparate and receptive... (Fat == ugly)... a small-minded media fed point of view. No size of person including super-sized people should have to deal with any negative comments on their size... the same goes for race, religion, height, etc. etc. etc. Nor does anyone have the right to pass judgement on an entire class of people even if society seems to.
Now, go be a good boy(girl) and have a good day. Regards, Guy who loves BBW
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It wasn't actually funny either.
Just because a woman is large doesn't mean she is auto-magically desperate. Your comment was highly thoughtless. You could've just left out the size part... too many people these days are killing themselves to fit a Hollywood image.
Besides not everyone likes boy-shaped women.