Well, pretty soon every TV with come with HD standard. Until then, you are probably right. A lot of people will be disappointed. But I think part of the problem is that people are just getting used to making games for the 360. They will probably be able to improve the way games look for SDTV as well. I think it is always a good idea to wait to buy any new technolgy, though.
Maybe it is just me, but that controller is a real turn off. I really can't see myself enjoying holding a remote like that for any extended period of time. I am really in a wait and see mode with that thing. I think what will help Nintendo a lot is that it will be significantly cheaper. While it didn't seem to help it much this gen, the newer gen is going to be much more expensive and Nintendo can take advantage of that.
What the hell are you talking about? The XBOX has better graphics than the other 2 consoles. For the 360 they are really focused about playing up its online capabilities. As far as who will have better graphics between the 360 and PS3 is yet to be seen (Nintendo isn't playing the graphics competition game, but I am sure their games will still be beautiful). You are confusing the current gen with the next gen. I can't really comment on XBOX sound capabilities because I haven't really researched it but just because something goes over the same link, does not mean it can't have better quality sound. I hate fanboys of any console...but seriously, you are clueless.
Final Fantasy XI is a MMORPG like World of Warcraft. You can't play MMORPG offline. It doesn't "seem" to be geared towards online...it was designed to be a MMORPG which doesn't have a single player. In any case, even if XBOX did force you to make an account, they can't force you to play online. That is just silly.
People like you really annoy me on here. What world are you guys living in? This is the best time in history to be a gamer. Not only do we have tons of great games coming out, we have 4 major choices in gaming: Nintendo, Sony, MS, and PC (this isn't even including the handheld market). Competition is a good good thing. Go back in time with gaming and you can't go very far. It was impossible to not be innovative 30 years ago because it was a totally new medium. You would have to try extremely hard not to be innovative back then. Now that things have matured, certain game genres have been found to be popular and variations of those continue to come out. But there are still innovative games coming out all the time. But seriously, who cares about how innovative a game is? When I sit down to a game, I don't get up thinking, "damn, that game was innovative". No, I think, "damn, that game was fun!". Civ IV isn't innovative, it's a sequel. But guess what, it's fun! HL2 didn't make a new genre, but it is the most fun I have had in an FPS ever. Stop focusing on innovation so much. There will be a few innovative games out every year, don't worry...Slashdot's constant whining won't change that. Just focus on all the fantastic games we have out there and the vareity of platforms we can choose from. Sure, there is a lot of crap to sift through, but there are still more great games coming out than any normal individual can keep up with.
Wow. I say that 1) because you posted something that clearly shows you aren't thinking before you type and 2) because someone modded you up.
The article says...no wait the summary...no wait, even the title states that only 80 games a year will succeed. It doesn't say "Gamers buy 80 games a year". You are aware, I hope, that people have different tastes than you do. This being the case, some games would be successful that you would not be interested in. And other people are able to purchase games that you would be interested and can not afford. Maybe you should slow down on gaming and work a little on basic reading comprehension.
That's fine...but way to totally ignore this guy's point. It doesn't matter if it makes it in to the top 10 or not. It matters if it makes a profit. Licensed games can generate sales based on their license regardless of the quality of the game. The top 10 just shows that a good game doesn't need a license to sell well.
Who cares? It will block things that are overly mature for your children. If it gets rated differently then you unlock the access so the kid can play that game. If it is rated more mature than the ESRB, then you don't buy it for your kid. This is supposed to help parents out, not replace parents from taking an active role in their children's life.
I used Steam to get HL2. Had no problems. A lot of people use it and find it a great way to get their games without heading to the store. You make up some scenario that might be likely to you. Well, it isn't to me. I have never been remotely terminated. It's an easy way to get a game. The reality is that DRM prevents a certain amount of pirating. If they just let you download it without any restrictions, no one would buy the game, they would just get it from P2P or some site that sticks it up. Sure, there are cracks for it and people who really want it free can get it. But to the average user that is beyond their capability to figure out and they just buy the game.
You come on here spouting off on how terrible DRM is but you offer no solutions. Yeah, it's popular to cry about DRM on here and you will surely get modded up, but your post is worthless. Companies have to do something if they are going to allow you to download their software off the net or they will not make a profit. Steam is extremely user friendly and a great way to purchase a game. If you want to download games in the future, get used to this model. It's not going to get much easier than this. Boycott all the games that you want to that do this. It will have much less of an effect than if they let you download DRM free. Bah, "30,000 *valid* purchases" my ass. I bet you that a large large percentage of those were attempts to illegally use the software. You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise.
Exactly. Beautiful post. The elitist attitude on games.slashdot.org needs to die. The fact that so many people do play these games mean that a lot of people find them fun. It's fine if you don't enjoy them, but don't think you are special and have some god given gift to know what a great game is for everyone.
Actually, it can be made considering gaming is typically a much smaller market than movies. Everyone watches movies...it is amazing to me that they made more than Spiderman.
As a gamer, I am actually pretty wary of the controller. It is dramatically different. Sure, that could be good. But it also could back fire on them. I LIKE the current controllers for games. If I want something gimmicky like bongos or dance pads, I can buy those for games that support them. Having a remote control for games that typically require a lot of buttons could make it so that whole genres won't be included on the game cube. Maybe they will make some new genres, but then those games can not translate on to other platforms because they will be too dependant on the controller. That will drive business away. It's like this...there is sort of a standard right now for controllers. When everyone follows the standard to a certain degree, everyone is happy because games can be ported for all. If one just goes their own way, that is going to hurt third party development. Nintendo will just be isolating themselves more and more. I don't think they are going to die....they are a healthy company focused on profits. But I think they could lose more marketshare again. This is a big risk for them, though. I like Nintendo and want them to do well. But sometimes...revolutions are squahsed flat.
I believe the word you are looking for is "minimum". If two games have gone gold then that is the minimum number of games the XBOX 360 will have at launch.
I just know that since i switched to apple, I dont worry anymore of viruses, nor i worry if my e-mail has some bundled adware into it, and like many other people have said in this post, it could eventually happen, but right now it hasn't happened for me.
This is a horrible thing to say. As long as your system is attached to the Internet, you can't ignore security. I know we got our mother a Mac so that she would stand a chance out there, but right now, the Mac isn't worth writing a virus for. As the marketshare increases, it is going to be a much more interesting target. I really predict a pretty nasty attack to be coming in the next 5 years that will really wake everyone up. So please, Mac zealot all you want, just don't advocate ignoring security. Run that firewall, virus scanner, and don't open everything that people send you.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Even if the companies do not allow exchange of items for money (which most of them don't), there are companies out there that are willing to set up the exchange of real life money. Companies don't have police, but they do have people monitoring to try to prevent this activity. They certainly can't stop real life crime. Only someone who is messed up to begin with would kill somebody over a game. Blame the person, not the game. We have laws for murder. It's as simple as that.
Umm, a lot of these guys aren't pretending to be women...they just made female characters. I am not sure why this is a "sadly" scenario. Most guys would rather look at a good looking woman as their character than a muscle man. Sometimes I wonder if people who play male characters are gay (I am kidding, but you can see it both ways).
You are aware that just because it is a "role playing" game, doesn't mean you have to role play, right? This must be a novel concept to you...but some people just like to play games. Role playing to a lot of people is silly. Maybe that's your thing, and that's great. But don't place your expectations on others.
Umm, so would you want to lay money down against 1up and say Halo 3 won't be huge?
I didn't think so. Just because you don't like Halo 2 and a lot of mods on slashdot agree with you, it doesn't mean that Halo 3 won't be the killer app for the x-box 360. So 1up has a valid point here. Your point was "Halo 2 is teh sux0rz. I am 1337. mod me up." A lot of people like Halo, despite your distaste for it. Grow up.
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So you are countering an opinion with your opinion. God, what morons! You say the PSX controller is the best so now it must be. Way to put that argument to rest!
People like different things. The XBOX controller to me is by far the most comfortable. The button layout just feels perfect to me. Next comes the PS2 controller. Next, GC controller. So now that I have stated my opinion after yours, I must be right!
You have serious problems. Communication through words can not be perfect. Obeying all your stupid rules does not change this. If you don't agree with something he has to say about the game, that's great. Say how he is wrong. A post like yours is pointless and petty. Who cares if he begins a sentence with a numeral? A tiny percentage of the anal world. You write well...put it to good use rather than just being a pompous ass.
You know, there are different types of innovation. I just attended MILCOM and one of the guest speakers was talking about innovation and they listed both Apple and Dell. What did Dell do? They innovated the process of purchasing and distributing a PC. They are able to offer lower prices and make PCs accessible to a greater number of people. You may not think that type of innovation is as important as Apple's...but really, Apple didn't do anything technically innovative. They are innovative in design and user interfaces that appeal to the masses.
Comparing Apple to Dell is comparing apples to oranges. Saying one company is more innovative than another is just plain silly. They have totally different business models. Then trying to back up your opinion by saying your organization is buying more Apples than Dells is totally irrelevant. Who cares? I really don't get the emotional attachment to tools. Apple systems are a tool. PCs are a tool. Just like any tool, there is a right tool for the job.
God, what a stupid argument. How crap like this gets +5 insightful is beyond me. Maybe it is just because you say you won't buy an xbox.
If you don't like multiplayer over XBL, then don't play it. Buy games that are single player. It's like saying "Personall, the Internet is one reason I'm waiting on buying a PC. Iam actually adverse to it, and I don't think I am alone. It's one of the things that's given the PC its reputation as a system for hardcore gamers; it's almost as if you have to have a little community of fellow geeks willing to play online to really get much out of system". It's not like the system won't boot unless it is hooked up to a broadband connection. Of all the reasons not to buy a system, your has to be one of the worst out there. Just because people don't want to shell out extra money for the current XBL doesn't mean that 90% of XBox owners aren't interested. They might not have broadband, they might not be able to afford it, they might not even know it exists. The PS2 sold well because it was backward compatible and had solid games. XBox was just entering the market and expected to take a loss (though I am sure they hoped it was less of a loss).
It seems like the fairly obvious solution is wait until you can buy the things unbundled. Sure, you might have to wait a few months but you get rewarded by being patient. You get a better price, you have more of a selection, and the hardware is usually a later rev and has less of a chance to fail. Let early adopters suffer. And if there is just no way to find any console without a bundle, I imagine you can track down used systems eventually.
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How many PS2s are online compared to Xbox? Who has the lead again?
Well, pretty soon every TV with come with HD standard. Until then, you are probably right. A lot of people will be disappointed. But I think part of the problem is that people are just getting used to making games for the 360. They will probably be able to improve the way games look for SDTV as well. I think it is always a good idea to wait to buy any new technolgy, though.
Maybe it is just me, but that controller is a real turn off. I really can't see myself enjoying holding a remote like that for any extended period of time. I am really in a wait and see mode with that thing. I think what will help Nintendo a lot is that it will be significantly cheaper. While it didn't seem to help it much this gen, the newer gen is going to be much more expensive and Nintendo can take advantage of that.
What the hell are you talking about? The XBOX has better graphics than the other 2 consoles. For the 360 they are really focused about playing up its online capabilities. As far as who will have better graphics between the 360 and PS3 is yet to be seen (Nintendo isn't playing the graphics competition game, but I am sure their games will still be beautiful). You are confusing the current gen with the next gen. I can't really comment on XBOX sound capabilities because I haven't really researched it but just because something goes over the same link, does not mean it can't have better quality sound. I hate fanboys of any console...but seriously, you are clueless.
Final Fantasy XI is a MMORPG like World of Warcraft. You can't play MMORPG offline. It doesn't "seem" to be geared towards online...it was designed to be a MMORPG which doesn't have a single player. In any case, even if XBOX did force you to make an account, they can't force you to play online. That is just silly.
People like you really annoy me on here. What world are you guys living in? This is the best time in history to be a gamer. Not only do we have tons of great games coming out, we have 4 major choices in gaming: Nintendo, Sony, MS, and PC (this isn't even including the handheld market). Competition is a good good thing. Go back in time with gaming and you can't go very far. It was impossible to not be innovative 30 years ago because it was a totally new medium. You would have to try extremely hard not to be innovative back then. Now that things have matured, certain game genres have been found to be popular and variations of those continue to come out. But there are still innovative games coming out all the time. But seriously, who cares about how innovative a game is? When I sit down to a game, I don't get up thinking, "damn, that game was innovative". No, I think, "damn, that game was fun!". Civ IV isn't innovative, it's a sequel. But guess what, it's fun! HL2 didn't make a new genre, but it is the most fun I have had in an FPS ever. Stop focusing on innovation so much. There will be a few innovative games out every year, don't worry...Slashdot's constant whining won't change that. Just focus on all the fantastic games we have out there and the vareity of platforms we can choose from. Sure, there is a lot of crap to sift through, but there are still more great games coming out than any normal individual can keep up with.
Wow. I say that 1) because you posted something that clearly shows you aren't thinking before you type and 2) because someone modded you up.
The article says...no wait the summary...no wait, even the title states that only 80 games a year will succeed. It doesn't say "Gamers buy 80 games a year". You are aware, I hope, that people have different tastes than you do. This being the case, some games would be successful that you would not be interested in. And other people are able to purchase games that you would be interested and can not afford. Maybe you should slow down on gaming and work a little on basic reading comprehension.
That's fine...but way to totally ignore this guy's point. It doesn't matter if it makes it in to the top 10 or not. It matters if it makes a profit. Licensed games can generate sales based on their license regardless of the quality of the game. The top 10 just shows that a good game doesn't need a license to sell well.
Umm, because Pokemon is a cartoon. It didn't start out as a game. It had to be licensed from the people who made the cartoon to be made as a game.
Who cares? It will block things that are overly mature for your children. If it gets rated differently then you unlock the access so the kid can play that game. If it is rated more mature than the ESRB, then you don't buy it for your kid. This is supposed to help parents out, not replace parents from taking an active role in their children's life.
I used Steam to get HL2. Had no problems. A lot of people use it and find it a great way to get their games without heading to the store. You make up some scenario that might be likely to you. Well, it isn't to me. I have never been remotely terminated. It's an easy way to get a game. The reality is that DRM prevents a certain amount of pirating. If they just let you download it without any restrictions, no one would buy the game, they would just get it from P2P or some site that sticks it up. Sure, there are cracks for it and people who really want it free can get it. But to the average user that is beyond their capability to figure out and they just buy the game.
You come on here spouting off on how terrible DRM is but you offer no solutions. Yeah, it's popular to cry about DRM on here and you will surely get modded up, but your post is worthless. Companies have to do something if they are going to allow you to download their software off the net or they will not make a profit. Steam is extremely user friendly and a great way to purchase a game. If you want to download games in the future, get used to this model. It's not going to get much easier than this. Boycott all the games that you want to that do this. It will have much less of an effect than if they let you download DRM free. Bah, "30,000 *valid* purchases" my ass. I bet you that a large large percentage of those were attempts to illegally use the software. You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise.
Exactly. Beautiful post. The elitist attitude on games.slashdot.org needs to die. The fact that so many people do play these games mean that a lot of people find them fun. It's fine if you don't enjoy them, but don't think you are special and have some god given gift to know what a great game is for everyone.
Actually, it can be made considering gaming is typically a much smaller market than movies. Everyone watches movies...it is amazing to me that they made more than Spiderman.
As a gamer, I am actually pretty wary of the controller. It is dramatically different. Sure, that could be good. But it also could back fire on them. I LIKE the current controllers for games. If I want something gimmicky like bongos or dance pads, I can buy those for games that support them. Having a remote control for games that typically require a lot of buttons could make it so that whole genres won't be included on the game cube. Maybe they will make some new genres, but then those games can not translate on to other platforms because they will be too dependant on the controller. That will drive business away. It's like this...there is sort of a standard right now for controllers. When everyone follows the standard to a certain degree, everyone is happy because games can be ported for all. If one just goes their own way, that is going to hurt third party development. Nintendo will just be isolating themselves more and more. I don't think they are going to die....they are a healthy company focused on profits. But I think they could lose more marketshare again. This is a big risk for them, though. I like Nintendo and want them to do well. But sometimes...revolutions are squahsed flat.
I believe the word you are looking for is "minimum". If two games have gone gold then that is the minimum number of games the XBOX 360 will have at launch.
I just know that since i switched to apple, I dont worry anymore of viruses, nor i worry if my e-mail has some bundled adware into it, and like many other people have said in this post, it could eventually happen, but right now it hasn't happened for me.
This is a horrible thing to say. As long as your system is attached to the Internet, you can't ignore security. I know we got our mother a Mac so that she would stand a chance out there, but right now, the Mac isn't worth writing a virus for. As the marketshare increases, it is going to be a much more interesting target. I really predict a pretty nasty attack to be coming in the next 5 years that will really wake everyone up. So please, Mac zealot all you want, just don't advocate ignoring security. Run that firewall, virus scanner, and don't open everything that people send you.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Even if the companies do not allow exchange of items for money (which most of them don't), there are companies out there that are willing to set up the exchange of real life money. Companies don't have police, but they do have people monitoring to try to prevent this activity. They certainly can't stop real life crime. Only someone who is messed up to begin with would kill somebody over a game. Blame the person, not the game. We have laws for murder. It's as simple as that.
Umm, a lot of these guys aren't pretending to be women...they just made female characters. I am not sure why this is a "sadly" scenario. Most guys would rather look at a good looking woman as their character than a muscle man. Sometimes I wonder if people who play male characters are gay (I am kidding, but you can see it both ways).
You are aware that just because it is a "role playing" game, doesn't mean you have to role play, right? This must be a novel concept to you...but some people just like to play games. Role playing to a lot of people is silly. Maybe that's your thing, and that's great. But don't place your expectations on others.
Umm, so would you want to lay money down against 1up and say Halo 3 won't be huge?
I didn't think so. Just because you don't like Halo 2 and a lot of mods on slashdot agree with you, it doesn't mean that Halo 3 won't be the killer app for the x-box 360. So 1up has a valid point here. Your point was "Halo 2 is teh sux0rz. I am 1337. mod me up." A lot of people like Halo, despite your distaste for it. Grow up.
So you are countering an opinion with your opinion. God, what morons! You say the PSX controller is the best so now it must be. Way to put that argument to rest!
People like different things. The XBOX controller to me is by far the most comfortable. The button layout just feels perfect to me. Next comes the PS2 controller. Next, GC controller. So now that I have stated my opinion after yours, I must be right!
You have serious problems. Communication through words can not be perfect. Obeying all your stupid rules does not change this. If you don't agree with something he has to say about the game, that's great. Say how he is wrong. A post like yours is pointless and petty. Who cares if he begins a sentence with a numeral? A tiny percentage of the anal world. You write well...put it to good use rather than just being a pompous ass.
You know, there are different types of innovation. I just attended MILCOM and one of the guest speakers was talking about innovation and they listed both Apple and Dell. What did Dell do? They innovated the process of purchasing and distributing a PC. They are able to offer lower prices and make PCs accessible to a greater number of people. You may not think that type of innovation is as important as Apple's...but really, Apple didn't do anything technically innovative. They are innovative in design and user interfaces that appeal to the masses.
Comparing Apple to Dell is comparing apples to oranges. Saying one company is more innovative than another is just plain silly. They have totally different business models. Then trying to back up your opinion by saying your organization is buying more Apples than Dells is totally irrelevant. Who cares? I really don't get the emotional attachment to tools. Apple systems are a tool. PCs are a tool. Just like any tool, there is a right tool for the job.
God, what a stupid argument. How crap like this gets +5 insightful is beyond me. Maybe it is just because you say you won't buy an xbox.
If you don't like multiplayer over XBL, then don't play it. Buy games that are single player. It's like saying "Personall, the Internet is one reason I'm waiting on buying a PC. Iam actually adverse to it, and I don't think I am alone. It's one of the things that's given the PC its reputation as a system for hardcore gamers; it's almost as if you have to have a little community of fellow geeks willing to play online to really get much out of system". It's not like the system won't boot unless it is hooked up to a broadband connection. Of all the reasons not to buy a system, your has to be one of the worst out there. Just because people don't want to shell out extra money for the current XBL doesn't mean that 90% of XBox owners aren't interested. They might not have broadband, they might not be able to afford it, they might not even know it exists. The PS2 sold well because it was backward compatible and had solid games. XBox was just entering the market and expected to take a loss (though I am sure they hoped it was less of a loss).
It seems like the fairly obvious solution is wait until you can buy the things unbundled. Sure, you might have to wait a few months but you get rewarded by being patient. You get a better price, you have more of a selection, and the hardware is usually a later rev and has less of a chance to fail. Let early adopters suffer. And if there is just no way to find any console without a bundle, I imagine you can track down used systems eventually.