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Re:blame social media
OK, let me use small words. He joined that group because he was crazy; the group did not make him crazy.
So, you believe the near-doubling of antisemitic violence since Trump was elected is just some weird coincidence?
https://www.theguardian.com/so...
And is a near-doubling of white supremacist propaganda since Trump was elected also just some weird coincidence.
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Re: Who can afford to run a tor exit node ?
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Re:"hate"
You can thank your local chapter of the US Nazi party for that.
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Re:There are real issues [Re:Heil Hillary as manda
Meanwhile back in reality:
"Bannon, the former chief strategist in the Trump administration, has expressed his enthusiasm for the alt right, a loose network of individuals and groups that promote white identity and reject mainstream conservatism in favor of politics that embrace implicit or explicit racism, anti-Semitism and white supremacy. Alt right adherents oppose multiculturalism, immigration and often claim that there is a Jewish conspiracy to advocate for “white genocide.” These messages are often delivered via social media, using “ironic” memes and/or slogans.
Bannon “proudly” told a Mother Jones reporter at the 2016 Republican National Convention “we’re the platform for the alt right,” referring to Breitbart News, which he headed at the time.
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When President Trump named Bannon as his chief strategist, numerous well-known white supremacists celebrated the appointment. David Duke called the selection of Bannon “excellent,” adding that Bannon was “basically creating the ideological aspects of where we’re going.” Peter Brimelow, who runs the racist site VDare, said that the Bannon hire was “amazing.”Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, Brad Griffin of Occidental Dissent, and Rocky Suhayda of the American Nazi Party predicted that Bannon would help hold Trump to his campaign promises on immigration.
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While still at the helm of Breitbart, Bannon made a number of comments about the West being at war with Islam. At a speech at the Vatican in 2014, he said, “We are in an outright war against jihadist Islamic fascism.” During 2015 and 2016 broadcasts of the Breitbart News Daily radio show, he called Islam “the most radical religion in the world” and alleged that “Islamist sympathizers had infiltrated the U.S. government and news media,” according to an article in USA Today." -
Re:Only half leftists. Replaced class with race
The National Socialist German Workersâ(TM) Party, aka Nazi party had some leftist ideology, a lot of leftist rhetoric, but can't be accurately classified on the left-right spectrum at all. It was primarily nationalist.
You'd have a better argument if you went for the left-right spectrum being wrong, but actually, such nationalism falls under the auspices of the right-wing, as originally it was considered part of the French dogma.
The name, "Socialist German Workersâ(TM) Party" fairly accurately represents much of what they SAID; like all politicians what they said isn't what they did. There was a lot of anti-capitalism and especially anti-banker stuff, but Hitler directed that into very different actions.
Yep, he gave his preferred Capitalists priority treatment, while punishing the common laborers among the Jews.
For several hundred years, due to Christian religious teaching and kings using loopholes, most banking concerns were run by Jewish people. Hitler used the anti-banker (essentially anti Wall Street) rhetoric and sentiment to go after the Jews, as most bankers were Jewish.
Nope. Very few bankers were Jewish, and very few of the Jews rounded up in the Holocaust were actually bankers.
You're just falling victim to a myth perpetuated by anti-Semitic groups.
I'm saying victim, since you don't even know but are ignorant of it.
Leftists are known for identity politics - rich vs poor, gay vs straight, black vs white, etc. The Nazis very much focused on race. Leftists generally talk about race a lot, but not to the extent the Nazis did.
Nope. It's the Right-wing that focuses on identity politics, hard-working noble rich vs lazy criminal poor, rightful God-worshiping straight vs atheist immoral gay, moral and rational whites versus animalistic and primitive blacks, browns, red and yellows. Not to mention the Irish. The Nazis talked a lot about race, but they could have borrowed almost all of it from the hardcore Conservative Southern ideologues who were the epitome of the right, and were quite ascendant at the time, to the point of even co-opting science for their goals.
Leftists are socialist / communist, saying the factories and such should be owned by the people, and unlike the conservatives believe people should not be given a CHOICE buy stock in companies they choose, but instead must own all or most of the big companies, whether they want to be owners of an oil company or not. Because a million people can't individually vote or otherwise have a hand in running a company, the government must do that for them, the leftists say
Wrong again, it's actually the right-wingers that say "Because a million people can't individually vote" that they have to represent the people, and sell all public assets to individuals whose private ownership will lead to profit, which, of course, goes solely and exclusively to the owners, and the laborers deserve the proper scorn that their sweat and callused hands merit.
Well, not really, the right-wingers claim that the owner will somehow know to respect their workers, after all, if respected workers work harder, that'll be the more efficient thing, and the enlightened owner who has the blessings of God according to the prosperity gospel will do the proper thing.
The Right-wing goes on and on about making the nation strong, but it ends up always being focused on the proper sort, the ones who deserve it, according to their wisdom, and individuals who claim oppression and mistreatment are just resentful and shiftless layabouts who don't want to work hard.
Conservatives and US Republicans tend toward individualism,
Nope. Conservatives and US Republicans tend towards tribalism and group-think, the
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Re:On news of the invasion,
And also, German industry got a little help: https://www.adl.org/news/op-ed... https://www.washingtonpost.com... https://libcom.org/library/all... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrar...
Just goes to show: a Jew will sell to both sides as long as there's money to be made.
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Terrible!
They should only allow content from respectable people like Louis Farrakhan!
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Re:Nobody said these people were smart...
Do not call yourself a "True Scotsman" until you've read about this 9/11-truther:
https://www.adl.org/blog/anti-semitic-911-conspiracy-theorists-thrive-15-years-after-attacks
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Re:Blame the technology
Did you even know the story about the Florida shooter being part of a white nationalist movement was debunked and retracted?
That's not exactly a fair characterization. The ADL spoke with someone calling himself Jordan Jereb and claiming to be a member of a white supremacist group who said Cruz had participated in training exercises with the Republic of Florida (the white supremacist group).
Florida White Supremacist Group Admits Ties to Alleged Parkland School Shooter Nikolas Cruz
(Note, they have a big Update which includes information indicating it's probably not true)
He also told that to the AP and to the Miami Herald.
Then someone posting under the name Jordan Jereb wrote:
“There was a legit misunderstanding because we have MULTIPLE people named Nicholas in ROF, and I got a bunch of conflicting information and I have not slept for like 2 days.”
White Nationalist Appears to Disavow Connection With School Shooter
The Sheriff in news conferences said they had not been able to confirm any connection to the ROF.
In the end it all seemed to have been orchestrated by trolls.
How white nationalists fooled the media about Florida shooter
The MSM reported updates as they came out. Some of the fringe sites did not report any of the updates and I wouldn't count "Woke Sloth" as MSM. I had never heard of them before this but apparently that was one such site passed around on FB.
Maybe sites like Woke Sloth (and Breitbart and InfoWars) are not good alternatives to the MSM.
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Re:Oh, I get it!
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Re:They talk funny
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Re:Not needed
Given that it is the Trumpies who have murdered 18 people, DOUBLING last year's kill rate and antifa has murdered exactly ZERO people, your venom is spraying as uselessly as the spittle from your lips
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Re: Yuck
Don't tell that to the 18 people murdered for political gain by alt-righties last year. a DOUBLING from the previous year.
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Re:Your insight
, it's estimated that there are only about 2000 actual white supremacists in the US.
nope.
Sorry mate, you got nothing.
Furthermore, you're citing a poem as evidence of... what?
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Re:Your insight
Would the US be exceptional if we did the same?
Let's ask Emma Lazarus:
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
MOTHER OF EXILES. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame."Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"Question answered. Over 100 years ago. Apparently you failed your American Civics Lesson, eh, tovarisch?
, it's estimated that there are only about 2000 actual white supremacists in the US.
nope.
Sorry mate, you got nothing.
And yet, despite all the statistical evidence to the contrary and lack of contrary evidence, you have insight into the *real* reason we want to limit immigration: it's because secretly, down deep, we want to "Keep The Brown People Out".
Nope. Nothing SECRET about it. You're confusing denying something with keeping it secret.
(And your insight does not stem from the very good evidence that immigrants vote en-masse for a certain party.)
Yeah, that line was played up in the 1800s.
I'm glad you're so historical ignorant, it makes knowing how wrong you are so much easier.
Because you're somehow smarter or better informed than us?
Well, you do admit you know nothing.
Seriously, the best you could do was a pompous whining ass who has been a joke since the 1980s, a grand-standing blowhard, a bunch of corrupt sell-outs to Russia, a gun-running drug pusher, and the King of Siam?
You suck.
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This is a feature, not a bug
Actually, I think this should be considered as a feature, not a bug.
If you are, say, the Jewish Antidefamation League, people who put in the search term "Jews ruin everything" and "evil Jews" and "Jewish control of banks" into Google search are exactly the people you want to serve advertising intended to change public opinion.
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Re: This is fine
I'm just going to post this link again to remind everyone that "far left extremists" are a sharp minority in the committing of extremist murders in the US:
https://www.adl.org/sites/defa...
The long and the short, in 2016, the majority of extremist crimes were committed by Islamic Extremists, in 2015 the majority were committed by White Supremacists.
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Re:Good, nazis need to pay
There were 20 million or more Tea Party supporters.
I wouldn't rely on that polling.
According to the SPLC, a far-Left anti-right orgranization, there are about 50,000 white supremacists (neo-Nazis, KKK, etc) in the entire US.
And mysteriously, Republicans opposed it when the FBI presented a report on them. Fortunately, there are others.
From those numbers alone, you can see your basic premise is bullshit.
Your argument is merely your opinion, it isn't especially convincing. But other opinions exist.
The fringe was ignored not because it was accepted, but because it basically DOESN'T EXIST outside of a media focus.
Nope. It wasn't just ignored. The right-wing fought hard to have it buried.
Why do you think the media always talks about Duke and Spenser?
Why do you think those are the only people they talk about?
None of the Tea Party marches endorsed racism, or supported Nazis, or advocated for oppression of opposition groups.
That long-repeated claim is about as believable as the claims that the Tea Party rallies don't leave a mess behind.
On the other hand, the Communists and Anarchists have always had a strong presence on the Left, in Occupy, BLM, and now Antifa. Antifa, which has now been declared a domestic terrorist organization for their continued use of violence against civilians in the pursuit of their political goals...
Declared by who? You? That's not convincing.
But your own condemnation reveals your lies, so I know better than to expect you to admit your mistake. I remember that the Communists, anarchists, the NAACP, the Unions, Occupy, BLM, and now AntiFa, have all been denounced by the right, and condemned, no matter what.
It loses its punch after a while. Meanwhile, you ignore the right-wing violence, and even endorse it. But "blood libel" isn't something you mind spreading to others.
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Re:Opportunistic
Yeah, I'm thinking white supremacists are a helluva lot more dangerous than any left-leaning protester/activist groups:
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Re:Follow the money
They've been slowly disappearing over the last few decades of ignoring them. But hey, why not throw international light on them, stir up the pot, and give them attention to get their message out even wider and see if they can attract more members! Maybe they will even go back and partner up again with the Nation of Islam and both go and attack the Jews!
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Re:Hate filled libtard
Would that be one of the friends who thought he was disturbed or on drugs? Or one of the friends who thought he was apolitical? Or one of the friends who thought he had a sudden change in personality? Which is it?
Instead of relying on an alleged friend, let's try an examination we can review. Hmm. Lots of stuff there, but you know what? It's more indicative of disjointed thinking than any particular ideology.
Of course, we could also consider the medical doctors who treated him, at court order, and put him on anti-psychotics, and consider that maybe your partisan bias is leading you astray.
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Re:Hate filled libtard
What violent acts by the GOP in any form of recent history?
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Re: Right wingers are the ones you should worry ab
You're wrong, because the groups you're not talking about are conservatives, bullies, warriors for Christ, "freedom fighters" and so on. They *do* those things. ACT-America, Christian Action Network, John Birch Society, Oath Keepers, Justice Foundation, Christian Exodus, Agenda21Today, AFN, GOOOH, NCAUNT, WTP, TURF, AOF...are all violent right-wing groups.
But you'll never speak of them, will you? You'll claim that it's a "purely" left-wing thing, you'll wave your hands over the KKK, but wait a second, they're not the only group, now are they? (The Right-wing isn't stupid, they know the KKK brand is tainted, so they stick on a new label.)
In fact, you'll go into hysterics when their conduct is documented and reported.
And it isn't even limited to the US.
Yet you are entirely and utterly silent.
Oh, and one of your video was a fake.
But hey, I'm sure you can rant over a cake.
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Re: More
it clarifies that because Pepe is popular, all types use Pepe.
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Re:and yet...
Actually, if you are paying attention, the GOP Establishment/NeoConservative Leadership is much more inclined to go along with the Democrat leadership. It's;
- Simpler. So hard to have to make your point in a hostile media environment, and social media just isn't useful when you are trying to 'explain'.
- Effective. If you're facing non-citizen voters in states that are already pro-Left, then why bother?
- Avoids dealing with your own party rank and file. If you're unable to corral your own party's representatives to pass legislation, why bother? Just go along.
- Preserves your power and influence. the risk of taking a stand on principle is that those who disagree with you may choose some other candidate to support. Running a serious primary campaign is just so hard. Much easier and less risky to spend that time punishing your enemies and rewarding your allies. On both sides of the aisle.
But to your point, I'm unaware of Right/Conservative/GOP violence, but then I rely on non-mainstream media for some of my news, so I miss a lot of propaganda. So other than FBI conspiracies and KKK (AKA Democrats)
As a self-identified Republican, I no longer support the Republican legislative leadership. Priebus I support because he's been doing his job, perhaps with little enthusiasm, but doing it. Trump is the cure to the Republican leadership failure, which began in 1981 with Reagan's takeover of the Conservative movement, then GHW Bush's failed re-election, and has continued despite presidential election successes intervening. 35 years of failed GOP leadership has left us with a party that is led by and populated with elected officials that prefer to go along with the opposition for a variety of reasons, but largely because they have no vision for our nation nor their own political movement. and they have not considered the Conservative wing of the GOP to be a 'movement' for a long time. They have caved, fearing an immigrant swell that could lead to an insurmountable Democrat majority for the foreseeable future, a hostile media that will never be placated by surrender, and a transition to a social media dominated culture that concentrates real media power in corporations that can hide behind algorithms and opaque business practices, the subject of this thread, and wield overwhelming influence without their users recognizing their near-absolute control over the hearts and minds of most of the population.
I expect Trump to burn down the GOP house. It needs to be renewed, and with fire and water, not long knives and moves in the dark. And our nation needs a wakeup. We are changing, and in the midst of a soft revolution. There are changes being made that should be discussed and approved, but the forces for those changes do not care for law and justice, save for their own self-defined goals, which they change at their whims. You may agree with them, and I understand, but my caution to you is this - Today it's to your favor. Tomorrow, it may not be, and you will be bulldozed by the same forces that you applaud today. No rules, no justice.
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No, ADL actually DOES "fight for social justice"
I think you misunderstood. GP simply said that ADL is a bunch of social justice warriors. That's entirely correct, according to ADL. He didn't "blame" the SJWs for anything, he said ADL is SJWs, and it is, they say they are. A few references from the ADL web site for you:
http://blog.adl.org/tags/socia...
http://www.adl.org/education-o...
http://stlouis.adl.org/the-fut...
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No, ADL actually DOES "fight for social justice"
I think you misunderstood. GP simply said that ADL is a bunch of social justice warriors. That's entirely correct, according to ADL. He didn't "blame" the SJWs for anything, he said ADL is SJWs, and it is, they say they are. A few references from the ADL web site for you:
http://blog.adl.org/tags/socia...
http://www.adl.org/education-o...
http://stlouis.adl.org/the-fut...
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No, ADL actually DOES "fight for social justice"
I think you misunderstood. GP simply said that ADL is a bunch of social justice warriors. That's entirely correct, according to ADL. He didn't "blame" the SJWs for anything, he said ADL is SJWs, and it is, they say they are. A few references from the ADL web site for you:
http://blog.adl.org/tags/socia...
http://www.adl.org/education-o...
http://stlouis.adl.org/the-fut...
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No, ADL actually DOES "fight for social justice"
I think you misunderstood. GP simply said that ADL is a bunch of social justice warriors. That's entirely correct, according to ADL. He didn't "blame" the SJWs for anything, he said ADL is SJWs, and it is, they say they are. A few references from the ADL web site for you:
http://blog.adl.org/tags/socia...
http://www.adl.org/education-o...
http://stlouis.adl.org/the-fut...
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No, ADL actually DOES "fight for social justice"
I think you misunderstood. GP simply said that ADL is a bunch of social justice warriors. That's entirely correct, according to ADL. He didn't "blame" the SJWs for anything, he said ADL is SJWs, and it is, they say they are. A few references from the ADL web site for you:
http://blog.adl.org/tags/socia...
http://www.adl.org/education-o...
http://stlouis.adl.org/the-fut...
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Re:Star of David used by Neo Nazis...
The ADL points out that Pepe is not a hate symbol, it is merely used in some neo-Nazi / white supremacist memes.
Pays to check the primary source before posting reactionary nonsense.
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Re:Who said what?
You want to know what's really funny? If you read the actual ADL post on it, it actually says Pepe isn't a racist meme. It says that some people use it for such, but that doesn't make it so. Anymore then using something else in a meme context. Fuck the media is really trying to push this bullshit hard. So are the retards like the AC that
/. promoted this worthless bunch of articles on in the first place. Can't get much more pathetic, and when you hear people talking about this? They're laughing at you, even the normies.From the ADL itself:
However, because so many Pepe the Frog memes are not bigoted in nature, it is important to examine use of the meme only in context. The mere fact of posting a Pepe meme does not mean that someone is racist or white supremacist. However, if the meme itself is racist or anti-Semitic in nature, or if it appears in a context containing bigoted or offensive language or symbols, then it may have been used for hateful purposes.
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Re:This wouldn't be a Slashdot post...
The Israeli spy agencies have a huge reputation in the spy game for skill, guile and ruthlessness.
And war crimes.
A great body of which are fabrications and deceptions.
Goldstone: You Cannot Undo a Slander
Richard Goldstone, the formerly respected South African jurist who disgraced himself by lending his name to a sinister and libelous U.N. report condemning Israel for war crimes, has now issued a very public retraction. “If I had known then what I know now,” he wrote in the Washington Post, “the Goldstone Report would have been a different document.” New information has persuaded him, he said, “that civilians were not intentionally targeted as a matter of policy” by Israel.U.N. Report Rejects Claims of a Massacre of Refugees
The United Nations issued a cautious report today dismissing as unsubstantiated Palestinian claims that 500 people were killed when Israeli forces invaded a refugee camp in the West Bank city of Jenin in April.
As Israel strikes back, fake Gaza images dominate social media
A BBC report has found that many of the photographs used to illustrate the situation in Gaza are from years ago, and even from the conflicts in Iraq and Syria.
CNN Uses Faked Palestinian 'Casualty' Video in Coverage
CNN isn’t the only Old Media outlet that falls for fake Palestinian videos. There is a famous video that caused a contentious court case in France back in 2008. It was a fake video supposedly showing a young Palestinian boy named Muhammad al-Dura being shot at by Israel’s Defense Forces. At first, the video caused international outrage, but in time it was proven to be just Palestinian street theater. No Muhammad al-Dura was ever shot.
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Re:Show Me. Don't Tell Me.
You're right about the unsupported assertion, although it's got nothing to do with fact-based decision making.
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Re:Too bad!
Don't make more of it than it is, that page has an agenda. They left out context. I just picked the quote in bold, googled and found that there was more to it. Here is the excerpt as presented by the ADL (hardly a pro-arab source):
An atmosphere of sadness and shock overcame the Israelis two days ago when NASA announced [Ramon's] death This is enough to arouse joy in every heart that beats Arabism and Islam. [] Perhaps the sight of the Columbia shuttle's crashing in the town of Palestine, Texas reminds the Israeli people of the daily tragedy of the Palestinians - of the sorrow, the blood, and the massacres that the army of the [Zionist] entity carries out on the occupied lands. But it would not appear that the vast majority of Israelis have feelings for others The Columbia disaster is a loss to all, even though emotions are conflicting. Sincerest condolences to the American people and to the families of the six American astronauts, and Ramon should go to hell. There is no sorrow for him whatsoever. - Al-Bayan (UAE), 2/3
They consider themselves to be in a cold war with Israel. You can be sure American pundits had similar shit to say whenever something bad happened to the USSR. Every society has its Ann Coulters.
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Re:And?
But PETA gives a lot of money to outfits like ALF that *are* terrorist organizations. Starter kit:
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Re:So 60% positive ?
> The shooter of the judge and congresswomen in Arizona was also blamed on conservatives (even though it turned out the guy was a liberal.)
Oh please.
Taken together, Loughner's often disjointed, rambling and semi-coherent writings suggest someone who probably is not associated with any particular extremist groups or movements, but has a generic distrust of government and a vague interest in conspiracy theories. They are indicative of an individual who has been exposed to a number of different ideas, from across the political spectrum, and has sometimes appropriated external concepts – often seemingly divorced from their original context. However, Loughner's writings do not provide any solid body of evidence or any patterns that would seem clearly to point to a particular ideology or belief system as a significant motivating factor.
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Re:But does it change anything?
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Re:IRS Too?
Well put. An armed raid is the best way to escalate violence and increase the chances of someone getting killed. Why the police agitate for that escapes me. Actually, it doesn't: the police want to create the conditions in which they can kill people with impunity. Murdering a suspect after he's in custody is a crime. Killing him in his home because you "thought he was reaching for a gun" is just a mistake.
:-/For the IRS specfically, I was thinking of groups like the self-styled "sovereign citizens", who have basically the same attitude about wanting to create opportunities to kill police officers. Serving an arrest warrant on a member of a group like that is a situation in which I consider an armed raid to be justifiable.
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Re:University of Califonia? Oh, they'll love her.
More than that. I'd say Napolitano is probably the least knowledgeable person about terrorism in the Obama cabinet, which is just fucking sad.
She repeatedly claims there is no violence along the US/Mexico border, even though Arizona happens to be the kidnapping capital of the world, and people as far north as Chandler, AZ have been beheaded by Cartel members.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6848672&page=1#.UeBPe23aW2U
I remember it was her who made it sound like right wing groups were ready to storm the nation:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/15/extremism.report/
None of these "threats" ever actually panned out. Not a single one. The worse that happened is some idiot or two made a comment (e.g. talk about assassinating the president) but no physical violence ever surfaced.
Ironically most actual "acts" of domestic terror have been committed by left wing groups, usually environmentalists and/or animal rights groups, but including the mass shooters, nearly all of which considered themselves to be left wing:
http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/ecoterrorism.asp
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ba6_1345149941I remember a few years back there was an article on slashdot about how medical researchers had to stop their work due to eco terrorism being so bad, with one researcher who was studying Parkinson's by manipulating rat neurons, and some group threatened to Molotov cocktail his family, so he quit.
Napolitano has never made a single mention of anything like that, not even once. Al Qaeda threats are probably 1% of actual terrorism that happens in the US, and the so called "right wing" threat practically doesn't even exist. But to her, those are the top priority.
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Re:A conspiracy...
At first, the Ku Klux Klan focused its anger and violence on African-Americans, on white Americans who stood up for them, and against the federal government which supported their rights. Subsequent incarnations of the Klan, which typically emerged in times of rapid social change, added more categories to its enemies list, including Jews, Catholics (less so after the 1970s), homosexuals, and different groups of immigrants. -- more
Wait... the KKK are anti-catholic?!? Do they not even know their own history? Have they not seen where their outfits come from? Mediterranean Holy Week penitent Catholics....
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Re:A conspiracy...
Apparently, Crawford was an industrial engineer for GE and a KKK member -- which just makes it all that much weirder that they'd try to sell it to Jewish organizations.
Maybe, maybe not.
Klan members are able to prioritize their hate to suit their concerns.
David Duke of the KKK hates Jews/Zionists more than blacks
United In Hate? Fmr. KKK Leader David Duke Endorses Black Anti-Zionist For CongressThere are many Muslims in the United States as recent immigrants. As Klan members they could be expressing the traditional Klan hatred towards immigrants. Or maybe the Klan has decided to add a new line item on the hate list. They might have an added incentive since New York was the target of half of the 9/11 attacks, and maybe the 10 year anniversary planted a seed. I doubt that some identifiable group attacking the US would fill the Klan with love for them. After all, in the Klan's eyes, Jews may be the hidden cabal controlling the world, but they aren't openly killing Americans by the thousands. There was also the "Ground Zero mosque" controversy. I expect more will come out at the trial.
At first, the Ku Klux Klan focused its anger and violence on African-Americans, on white Americans who stood up for them, and against the federal government which supported their rights. Subsequent incarnations of the Klan, which typically emerged in times of rapid social change, added more categories to its enemies list, including Jews, Catholics (less so after the 1970s), homosexuals, and different groups of immigrants. -- more
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Re:Yeah Right
You cannot be convicted of a "hate crime" at all. There is no such thing. You can be convicted of a crime, and the punishment varies on the severity.
Completely false. "if a perpetrator was arrested, a prosecutor would have two choices. If the prosecutor chooses to simply charge the perpetrator with criminal damage to property, he or she would only have to prove that the defendant threw the brick though the window. Alternatively, the prosecutor could proceed on the hate crime charge and seek higher penalties."
"Some prosecutors have expressed a reluctance to prosecute bias crimes because of the additional evidentiary burden at trial, but proving the element of intent at trial is not unique to hate crime statutes. Many criminal offenses — including possession of a controlled substance with the intent to deliver, aggravated battery or assault on a peace officer, or murder in the first degree — require additional intent elements to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt."
So it is in fact a crime you must charge someone with. Sentencing hearings are used to determine penalties after conviction of a crime, but that is not how a "hate crime" works. Your description is just incorrect.
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Re:Militia?
Here's some information on that concerning the militia acts of 1792 and current federal law:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Acts_of_1792
http://www.adl.org/mwd/faq4.aspNote that the militia exists whether or not it has been called to duty. Simply by existing as an able-bodied male citizen, you are part of the "unorganized militia". (And note that by the definition of "well-regulated" at the time the Constitution was drafted, "unorganized" does not imply "not well-regulated".)
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Re:Accuracy
If I had power I would end all trade and aid to Israel until they acknowledge the right to exist of the Palestinian people, recognize them as an independent nation and withdraw all illegal settlers.
If I had power I would end all trade and aid to the islamists until they acknowledge the right to exist of the jewish people, recognize them as an independent nation and withdraw all hateful text.
there, I fixed it for you.
hateful text, you ask? yeah, like this:
http://www.adl.org/main_Israel/hamas_charter.htm
some of their 'love for fellow man' can be seen here:
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."
and:
Article Thirteen
[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad
I ask you, how can peace be made with such mental patients as those that believe this crap?
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Re:Iran's nuke program seems illogical
Ahmadinejad has made too many anti-Semitic remarks to mention here so here is a handy list by year: http://www.adl.org/main_International_Affairs/ahmadinejad_words.htm
So no it is not just one "mistranslated" statement. And no, mentioning it has nothing to do with "spreading anti-Arab/Iranian hate speech and racism". Where the hell did you get that from?
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It is pretty damn hard.
I'm the white parent of two children, one black, one white.
The parents of a black child don't get to choose whether or not to have "The Talk". If they are lucky, they get to choose the time and place. If they are lucky, they can do it without making their child predisposed to racism.
The first time I had The Talk it was with my white son. We were living in an upscale yuppie community on the midatlantic coast, and were the only multi-racial family in the area. My children are both highly intelligent and precocious; they could both sing the alphabet song at two years old and recognize all the letters and the sounds that went with them (thanks to Dr. Seuss and Vera Violet Vinn, who is very very awful on her violet violin). So as our little family strolled out from our property on a lovely spring day, with my wobbly toddler daughter giggling and dangling from her mother's arms, my son said slowly, sounding out the unfamiliar word, "Daddy, what does kill all nig-ger lovers mean?"
He was six years old, and he was reading what had been spray-painted on the sidewalk behind our house. He was curious about the swastikas, too, and wanted to know what this writing meant that hadn't been there the day before. So he and I had to have The Talk, right there, while my wife took my daughter a bit down the street out of earshot.
It wasn't something I planned, it wasn't something I did because whitey's always keepin' a man down. It was something distasteful that simply had to be done, like changing a diaper or shooting a mad dog. I don't think I can explain what it feels like, but I can tell you that you don't get a choice about it, like this asshole white guy did (and yes I did read his mean-spirited drivel).
At least four or five years later, we were driving through Rising Sun, Maryland and my daughter, looking out the window, asked me about the enormous confederate flag covering the porch of one house. She thought it was pretty. When I looked, I saw the "Knights of the Ku Klux Klan" insignia prominently posted and it looked pretty ugly to me. So we had to have The Talk, and I explained to her why our whole family is marked for death by the Phineas Priesthood, and why we don't stop in certain towns that we have to travel through.
Because we've had The Talk, my children know it's best for them to learn the signs and keep their eyes open. A Nascar "88" on a white man's car doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as one on a black man's car, and five shaven-headed teenagers in Doc Martens means stay calm and polite, and don't block daddy's line of fire. They know that they have to keep their eyes open and live fully in the world, and that they have never, ever lived on the same planet as the tens of thousands of people who still haven't recovered from having their illusory bubble of safety shattered on 9/11.
Everyone has to tell their children that while most people just want to live their lives, every human being is potentially a saint or a devil. The difference for the parents of black children is that we have to somehow explain to our offspring that we are marked as targets - for no other reason than the skin color of the body that houses my daughter's beautiful soul - and somehow we have to do this without filling them with hatred or despair, without crippling their enormous potential, and without turning them into cowards or racists.
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Re:Today's dose of fearmongering...
They blow themselves up in defence of their religon.
Even if it weren't idiotically false, it would just prove that they (some of them, not all) are completely freaking insane.
Now let's look at some of the more infamous examples of their "defence of their religon":Sbarros bombing- was it the children or the pizza that were threatening?
Three Year Old Stabbed in the Heart, Baby's Throat Slashed- again, it must have been the children. Maybe they were threatened by the pacifier?
4 Israelis killed in shooting attack- I guess if there's no children around, might as well shoot a pregnant woman? Point blank? Sounded good to them.
One common thread among these and the many other terrorist attacks is that no matter how many children, women, or non-combatant men are killed, the Palestinians are completely unrepentant, often even celebrating the murderers.
Blowing up a symbol of the same religion is against that line of thought.
Now if you consider the age old: "If I can't have it nobody will have it" this does not mean they'll not attack.No, but the fact that they (Iran) have been funding terror groups which are currently attacking Israel sort of implies that, well, they're probably fairly willing to attack Israel. Need me to chart that out for you?
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Re:He deserves it
I think you don't understand they way they used the word socialist in Germany at that time, don't forget that the opposition party the other major party the SPD Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands, the Social Democratic Party of German, also used that word. So think of it more as the peoples party, recognised that. A government of the people, by the people and for the people.
The Nazi party was not socialist, it was fascist, tied to the corporations of the day, strongly bound to the military, the police state and racism (surely you recognise those elements in todays politics). Also 'private' corporations profited from slave labour under the Nazi http://www.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_forgetting.asp, now that's definitely not socialist, need I remind you that US corporations are seeking to use prison labour.
Back to the story, Indonesia apparently only legally recognises these religions Islam, Protestant, Catholic, Hindu, Buddhism and Confucianism, which of course is really rather odd as there is no God in Buddhism or Confucianism, as they are atheist ethical and philosophical systems, hmm, atheism is illegal but atheist religions are not, now that's an interesting conundrum. So does Indonesia recognise the right of Israel to exist as it has what Indonesia considers an illegal national religion.
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FAA doesn't work for us.
The drones will be used for several things, but first consider the cost of maintaining a single drone much less a fleet of them and then it becomes easier to determine us owns and operates them.
The primary target for these drones are American citizens, in several cases to keep a close eye on the militias training in the back woods and deserts of the US
Armed Militias samples. (samples there are plenty more)
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/militia_m.asp?xpicked=4&item=19http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2022636,00.html
Training for what? If you asked that you're naive, now consider all the laws that have been passed or attempting to be passed (such as the current NDAA) there is no real threat from foreign terrorist in this country, the threat as perceived by "those that are in power" are the US people.
That is what the drones are for, that is what the new laws are for, that is what HLS is for, so stock up on cheetos fatties it's going to be a wild ride.
"May you live in interesting times"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times