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Yacas -- A symbolic computation engine similar to Mathematica or Maple. It has a Lisp core, with plenty of syntactic sugar. Released under the GPL.

Octave -- A damn fine piece of work for numerical computation. IMO, it beats MatLab any day. Released under the GPL.

Maxima -- a descendant of Macsyma, which all True Math Geeks remember. It's a symbolic computation engine with a Lisp core, like Yacas. Released under the GPL.

JACAL -- another symbolic computation engine with a Lisp core. Released under the GPL.

GAP -- a system for doing abstract algebra and combinatorics. This is really only of interest to a limited subset of mathematicians. However, it is incredibly good at doing what it does. GAP is under its own license, which I'm fairly certain would classify as free to RMS.

There are many others, but these are the most mature that I've dealt with. If you're looking for a pretty front-end, Maxima has one, there's one for Octave called G-Octave (uses Gnome), and there's one for GAP called XGAP. None of them match the purtiness of Mathematica or Maple, though. There is TeXmacs, a rather impressive TeX-ish WYSIWYG. With some effort, you can make it serve as an input/output mechanism for any CAS. However, I recommend against using it for its intended purpose as, although its rendering is very impressive, it is a big step backwards for structured documents.

From the rdist website: "RDist is an open source program to maintain identical copies of files over multiple hosts. It preserves the owner, group, mode, and mtime of files if possible and can update programs that are executing."

From the rsync website: "rsync is an open source utility that provides fast incremental file transfer. rsync is freely available under the GNU General Public License"

Those who don't learn from the past are condemed to repeat it. So learn to appreciate it, or your next job is going to be coding in Fortran 2000.

10 if (you .ne. learnfrompast) then 10

I wonder if this will be available outside the US, specifically in Australia...Tridge's brilliant hacks for addinf Ethernet and PAL support aside, I'd really love one of these things.

Of course, I suppose it's all worth nothing without a good supply of TV Guide type information. Sofcom is probably the best we've got down here, but I imagine a real service would include a lot more meta information connecting the episodes in a series etc.

Anyone know anything about this issue? I can't find the necessary info in the rsync docs.

Judging by the fact that this technique does seem to work, I presume that rsync never modifies a file in-place, but I wonder if that's a guarantee, or just the current behaviour?

(Also, I am aware of the --whole-files command-line argument, but that's an orthogonal issue.)

Actually, I know they did: The Wedge. A much more immersive version of it too. Granted, the wedge uses the expensive Crystal Eyes glasses for stereo instead of polarised glasses/projectors, but the basic principle of cheap VR is the same. Why don't people who set out to make a cheaper better solution start by doing a bit of web surfing!?

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

..it is their Class.

The most important* factor.

*not that i condone it, but as someone once said " The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles."

Hey, there are even gays on the other side of the fence, so to speak...

Here is Theo de Raadt slamming into Darren Reed over Darren having a bit of a poke at OpenBSD practices in the shadow of the recent OpenSSH hole that led to a remote exploit in the default install.

I spend more than 8 hours of every single day of my life auditing code (and over the last week, 16+ hours a day), and here is some gay guy from Australia who spent all of Usenix in San Antonio years ago moping with droopy eyes after a very straight and girlfriended Mudge is not going to tell me that I am not doing enough

I love reading Theo's posts.

This does not mean however, that the cause is lost. Systems like Freenet, which is quite sh*te at sharing files Napster style, would work brilliantly if it was used as its author designed it to be used - sharing important information without fear of reprisal or censorship. The fact of the matter is, by restricting upload speeds, and encouraging the average user to stay a consumer, a corporation can in effect deny the user the framework to use the freedom they theoretically have gained from the internet.

Until these technical issues are solved, Joe Scmuck will remain a schmuck...

IMHO Asimov had a few ideas that should become fundamental laws whenever self-preservation and even self-defence play a part in robotics:

First Law:
A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

Second Law:
A robot must obey orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

Third Law:
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

A Google Search on the laws brings up some interesting papers on the subject or another link on AI in robotics here

At first sight, entanglement offers the prospect of sending a signal faster than the speed of light. But a closer look at what is actually possible shows that this will not work because of the limits of what can be known about quantum mechanical systems and how such information is relayed.

Except that with Free/Open Source software, you are being paid: you are being paid with fantastic programs that would be impossible for any one individual or company to replicate. Releasing software Free is the appropriate expression of gratitude to the community.

It is interesting to me that an argument using Capitalist concepts as a base to critique Free Software was modded down and a reply that used Marxist (Communist) ideas was modded up. Funny enough, most Slashdotters probably wouldn't realize how much they agree with Marx and Engels Manifesto of the Communist Party and probably would take offence to being described as having communist leanings. I guess it goes to show you how negativity in the popular media can alter perception of ideas that may have some worth in them.

The really interesting thing about Free Software is that it seems to be a microcosm of the only scenario where Communism can be truly workable; when the cost of replication of goods or services of value tends to zero.

Too bad the "Quantum Teleportation" project listed on this page: http://photonics.anu.edu.au/qoptics/projects.html leads to a page that is still "Under Construction".

They must still be building it up painstakingly from bits they teleported from somewhere else :-)

Too bad the "Quantum Teleportation" project listed on this page: http://photonics.anu.edu.au/qoptics/projects.htmll eads to a page that is still "Under Construction".

The URL you have provided is for a page published by a student undertaking a first-year physics course. Whilst it may (or may not) contain some good content, I doubt the student is part of the research team, and the page should not be treated as authoritative.

The page at http://photonics.anu.edu.au/qoptics/ is somewhat more official.

Here's the Quantum Teleportation page at ANU, which has a brief interview with Ping Koy Lam on the research page:

http://bohm.anu.edu.au/units/public/phys1007/s3296 225/quantum.html

Or insert a little time bombs into their computers, and when the office is on fire, appear with the water, save the day, become a hero, tell them that as a hero you know what's good for them — daily backups that is — and get a rise for saving not only the hard drives content, but also your coworkers.

But seriously, I don't have much time to read every +5 Insightful conspiration plan as well as the real solutions, so I'm risking being a little redundant.

Therefore, a lot of company property exists one place-- on individual hard drives.

You might of course try making them do daily backups, but they won't do it for sure, even if it means that every employee has to use 20 minutes every day. And they're right, like they're not changing the oil in the company's cars. They want to have computers which let them do their job.

The simplest solution would be to use Samba servers for users' files storage (I don't know if NFS work under Windows) &mdash which will act as a remote storage of everything your coworkers do, in a way totally transparent for them (just another directory on their computers to which they should save the important stuff) see Samba.org for details. If it's a small office, you just need a single file server for that so the hardware won't cost you much, the cost of software is $0 (or you may use Microsoft sollutions if you have lots of money for that — ask someone who uses NT file servers for more info about the MS way).

Now you have every important data on one machine. You can set up this machine to automatically sync the main directory with the redundant copy of everything in a second (or more) directory, so when someone deletes something important, it's still in the second copy, or third, etc.

But now you have a single critical point where everything important is located — that's to risky. You should have another machine, in another place, which will sync with the main file server every couple of hours, or every night using e.g. rsync. Now you have every data redundant in few places on two machines, and you can easily make manual backups on tapes, or CDRs, etc. from one of this machine.

You can use RAID 1 or 5 level arrays to be secured against hard disk failures, but it won't protect you if someone just deletes important files, so the periodical backups are still important with RAID arrays. Read the Software RAID HOWTO.

This is how I would do it, not counting on everyone making daily backups of their hard drives. I hope it will help you in securing your office data. The key ingredients: Samba and rsync.

You could also install rsync on the Windows machines (if there is rsync for Windows — I don't know) and set some Windows equivalent of cron job to update the backup version stored on the main server every hour and manually after clicking some "sync" icon, etc. Of course, There's More Than One Way To Do It.

Or insert a little time bombs into their computers, and when the office is on fire, appear with the water, save the day, become a hero, tell them that as a hero you know what's good for them — daily backups that is — and get a rise for saving not only the hard drives content, but also your coworkers.

But seriously, I don't have much time to read every +5 Insightful conspiration plan as well as the real solutions, so I'm risking being a little redundant.

Therefore, a lot of company property exists one place-- on individual hard drives.

You might of course try making them do daily backups, but they won't do it for sure, even if it means that every employee has to use 20 minutes every day. And they're right, like they're not changing the oil in the company's cars. They want to have computers which let them do their job.

The simplest solution would be to use Samba servers for users' files storage (I don't know if NFS work under Windows) &mdash which will act as a remote storage of everything your coworkers do, in a way totally transparent for them (just another directory on their computers to which they should save the important stuff) see Samba.org for details. If it's a small office, you just need a single file server for that so the hardware won't cost you much, the cost of software is $0 (or you may use Microsoft sollutions if you have lots of money for that — ask someone who uses NT file servers for more info about the MS way).

Now you have every important data on one machine. You can set up this machine to automatically sync the main directory with the redundant copy of everything in a second (or more) directory, so when someone deletes something important, it's still in the second copy, or third, etc.

But now you have a single critical point where everything important is located — that's to risky. You should have another machine, in another place, which will sync with the main file server every couple of hours, or every night using e.g. rsync. Now you have every data redundant in few places on two machines, and you can easily make manual backups on tapes, or CDRs, etc. from one of this machine.

You can use RAID 1 or 5 level arrays to be secured against hard disk failures, but it won't protect you if someone just deletes important files, so the periodical backups are still important with RAID arrays. Read the Software RAID HOWTO.

This is how I would do it, not counting on everyone making daily backups of their hard drives. I hope it will help you in securing your office data. The key ingredients: Samba and rsync.

You could also install rsync on the Windows machines (if there is rsync for Windows — I don't know) and set some Windows equivalent of cron job to update the backup version stored on the main server every hour and manually after clicking some "sync" icon, etc. Of course, There's More Than One Way To Do It.

Comment from Stewart Brand, the guy the "Information wants to be free" quote is attributed to: On the one hand information wants to be expensive, because it's so valuable. The right information in the right place just changes your life. On the other hand, information wants to be free, because the cost of getting it out is getting lower and lower all the time. So you have these two fighting against each other.

I was at this talk. The 'dude' is Dr Roger Clarke. He has a webpage at http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/.

You should be very careful when quoting Lomborg, as virtually every scientific publication which has reviewed his work has accused him of carefully selecting data, getting basic statistics wrong, ignoring research which disagrees with him etc.

Also his academic publications aren't that great. According to the web of science (source), they number 1. That ain't that great (I've got more than that, and I'm just a PhD student)

Let me refer you to Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics.

That's some morality that I would insist were applied to all AI's starting now.

Sure, theres little an AI can do now to harm a human, but better to start thinking about encoding it too early, rather than too late.

At the Australian National University ldap is used by everybody: staff and students. All of the Computer Science labs (which are a mixture of linux and sunrays) authenticate against ldap, which works pretty well. So do the PCs and Macs lying around the place, but I couldn't say how this works (don't know if they have an intermediate server which talks to ldap on their behalf, or if they can auth. directly against ldap). I can't find the link to the network info page, but essentially each faculty has an ldap server which provides login details (shell, etc), and a toplevel ldap server (I think there are a few of these) is used for authentication. Each time a user authenticates, however, the faculty server checks with the toplevel server and caches the result for some period of time, to reduce load at the top level. Of course, this creates a hell of a problem when the toplevel servers go offline :)

At the Australian National University ldap is used by everybody: staff and students. All of the Computer Science labs (which are a mixture of linux and sunrays) authenticate against ldap, which works pretty well. So do the PCs and Macs lying around the place, but I couldn't say how this works (don't know if they have an intermediate server which talks to ldap on their behalf, or if they can auth. directly against ldap). I can't find the link to the network info page, but essentially each faculty has an ldap server which provides login details (shell, etc), and a toplevel ldap server (I think there are a few of these) is used for authentication. Each time a user authenticates, however, the faculty server checks with the toplevel server and caches the result for some period of time, to reduce load at the top level. Of course, this creates a hell of a problem when the toplevel servers go offline :)

Then you replicated/mirror content across all machines. With uServ you just type in the names of the other machines you want to replicate to/with (e.g. see here). With other webservers you can use other disk synchronizing systems (e.g. rsync).

I run a webserver on my laptop and keep the content replicated with an always-on server. When I go offline, the server handles any web requests, but I still have a local copy of all my files for plane trips, etc..

Without knowing more about the type of data you're storing, I would recommend putting it in a database. I like PostgreSQL 7.x myself.

For the software, I would organize it in a directory structure and use rsync+ssh to mirror it as needed.

For backup software, use Amanda.

For file sharing, use Samba.

'Nuff said.

Without knowing more about the type of data you're storing, I would recommend putting it in a database. I like PostgreSQL 7.x myself.

For the software, I would organize it in a directory structure and use rsync+ssh to mirror it as needed.

For backup software, use Amanda.

For file sharing, use Samba.

'Nuff said.

Pfff, just make sure those stupid little Aibo thingies follow the Laws of Robotics.
Then we will have a lot less problems with lawsuits caused by Aibo-bitten elderly citizens.

Once the people take the power *back* from the corporations, maybe the world will regain some of its sanity again.

You, and anyone who mods you up, are a Marxist. Well, at least you're sympathetic towards his theories. I would like to write a paper sometime on the similarities between the "power to the people" tendencies of Marxism and the Open Source movement; I think this correlation motivates Microsoft to call Open Source "unamerican." Remember that Marx never supported violent revolution, the history of which in Europe tarnished his ideas. He did predict, however, that since the "capitalists" use their power to suppress the working class, class struggle much like the one you advocate here would result. And it did; the question is whether he was simply a prophet or an instigator.

Capitalism is good, in its pure and properly practiced form--unfortunately, so is any other form of economy.

Right. Like Marxism. Like Communism. The problems with any system come when the people within those systems exhibit a lack of virtue. Capitalism just so happens to work very well because people are largely self-interested. It's when we get "greedy" that these kinds of things (i.e., trivial lawsuits) happen. Whatever "greed" means nowadays.

They're no longer motivated by a search for prosperity but by mere greed--they are the gluttons who want more food even when they can't eat anymore.

Ah... but then again, what if it's this "greed" that makes the American economy so strong? Maybe it's the possibility of becoming a monopoly that helps drive our economy. Is Microsoft's monopoly so bad for the economy then? Profit motive leads to accelerated growth. There are obviously no easy cut-and-dry answers here. But we see the bad symptoms, and we wonder if there isn't a better way. But does that mean that we have evidence of a disease, or is it merely a side-effect?

you are an all-important Consumer--pay attention to the choices you make.

Yes, consider all the costs; even the ones you don't directly bear.

Then maybe you can get this guy to donate some of his Sun "backups."

This site tells much about Harrison's H.4 Timepiece (picture). Don't forget to visit the official site.

This site tells much about Harrison's H.4 Timepiece (picture). Don't forget to visit the official site.

So at what point do we get to hear the 'PROLETARIANS OF THE WORLD UNITE'? Have you been reading a bit of this?I'm right with you on this matter.

and a song for everyone too!

I believe the SMB protocol was around before MS even used it.

As the poster said, there are plenty of others:

• SGI IRIX and Cray UNICOS provide kernel-level checkpoint-restart.
• Condor provides user-level checkpoint restart and process migration by manipulating libraries at runtime.
• esky provides user-level checkpoint restart under Solaris and Linux via runtime library manipulation.
• crak provides kernel-level checkpoint restart for linux.
• cocheck provides user-level checkpoint-restart.
• libckpt provides user-level checkpoint-restart.

What's the alternative? Pay them $20 and hour and let them come and go as they please, or stop the line whenever they want to chat about their weekend? How willing are you to pay $500 for a printer that currently costs $125?

I knew it was only a matter of time until this albatross argument arrived. You are flatly out to lunch.

According to this articleMrs.Fiorina made $69.4 Million Dollars last year, further, according to this blurb at hp.com in 2000 hp had 88,000 employees.

So, 6,9400,000 / 88,000 == $788.63. Our kind friends in the article, working for HP's bottom line, "pull in around $1000" per month.

For all the "wealth" created by HP, a single person, the CEO earns 75% of a month salary for EVERY EMPLOYEE* .

What is it that Carly Fiorina does that affords her such phenomenal wealth and security? Why is she afforded the kind of kingly existence of comfort and un-imaginable security while those who MAKE THE WEALTH are forced to earn a pittance with zero security. Remember, it is not only the low wages that people have to contend with but the risk of being instantly unemployed without provocation.

I cannot fully explain the rage I feel at this situation, it exists all around us (and the world) -- this is the reality of Capitalism -- left unchanged it is guaranteed to get worse.

The world is in an uncomfortable place at the moment, out of control and heading in the absolutely wrong direction.. and most people of conscience recognize change is necessary. Sweeping, fundamental changes to the economic systems we employ.

Without a democratic solution to economic problems, (economically) powerless people will eventually revolt. It is not a debate of *if* but when, history has proven this -- and we are destined to allow it to repeat. Sad, very very sad.

Interesting Reading: The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

So, explain now, what does paying equitable salary have to do with the choice you mentioned? It is simply a non-issue.

*i recognize that temps are not included in the 88k number, and therefore would be a smaller portion of Mrs.Fiorina's salary... but it really has no bearing on the concept.

Also, im not surprised at the complete lack of understanding of the reality of this situation displayed in this forum. People have been so overwhelmed by the rhetoric and dogma of Capitalism, Freedom and America that they are absolutely blind to the massive problems with the present system -- and our ability to build a better alternative for everyone.

Apparently, if you'd believe the Linux community, you'd be hard-pressed upon where to place the blame. You see, the Linuxist Manifesto's number one rule is to lie to protect the best interests of Linux. No self-respectable Linux zealot would insult or place blame upon AMD, because AMD's philosophy centers around tackling American Corporations with their Asian sweatshops, selling their chips at bargain-basement prices like the Red Menace Commies do with their Wal-Mart shit.

So, right about now, you're probably thinking that the zealots are clearly in a dilemma. Who are they going to blame? If you have a prediction before I tell you, the poll is on the right. Or maybe the left. Either way, take your pick.

You'd think that the parasitic community would place blame upon Microsoft, right? Alas, Microsoft has had the bug patched since September 2000. Not only that, Windows XP , the latest in the suite of high-powered, stable operating systems from Microsoft Corp., has this patch built in. That's right, built in. Keep in mind that Windows XP was released in October 2001, over three months ago. Meanwhile, no one knows what the hell Alan Cocks has been doing since then, since he hides under the cloak of secrecy. nVidia has been informing users via tech support, even to the Linux community, how to fix the problem for months now. Clearly the blame is upon Alan Cocks's shoulder, but to place the blame where it is rightfully justified is inexcusable in the Linux community. The drones are in disarray.

The actual bug occurs when Linux users contract the Tux Racer virus via KEmail. When first run, Tux Racer enables a feature in your third-world sweatshop AMD processor called "extended paging." Now, I know you're probably thinking that this sounds like some sort of Nokia feature. Well, you're wrong. It's yet another feature that AMD illegally hacked from Intel. It allows your browser to seamlessly view pages up to 4Mb in size. Before its introduction in the early days of the Intel Pentium processor, web pages were broken up into 4K segments, because any pages larger would freeze the computer. That's why Microsoft didn't invent Javascript until after the Pentium, every time they went to use it, their pages exceeded 4K, and henceforth froze the computer. Intel came to the rescue with the Pentium line of chips, and, as usual, AMD got out their super high tech Asian hacking tools and "reverse-engineered" (code-name for 'illegally hacked') Intel's technology. Thus, users of the inferior AMD Cyrix Kx86-2 Now! processor could also view large web pages without crashing. So why did no one notice that pages larger than 4K would crash AMD processors? Well, Microsoft has had a fix for 16 months, like we mentioned earlier. But why did no one from the Linux community notice? Well, apparently, there does not exist a page devoted to Linux that is more than 4K in size. Since most of the Linux installations out there denounce color as 'feature bloat,' all Linux pages follow an unwritten oath to suck. Believe me, they all do.

So, for the good of Linux, you may now disperse. Head off to various tech sites and continue blaming Microsoft for not telling you sooner. Your community will thank you.

Apparently, if you'd believe the Linux community, you'd be hard-pressed upon where to place the blame. You see, the Linuxist Manifesto's number one rule is to lie to protect the best interests of Linux. No self-respectable Linux zealot would insult or place blame upon AMD, because AMD's philosophy centers around tackling American Corporations with their Asian sweatshops, selling their chips at bargain-basement prices like the Red Menace Commies do with their Wal-Mart shit.

So, right about now, you're probably thinking that the zealots are clearly in a dilemma. Who are they going to blame? If you have a prediction before I tell you, the poll is on the right. Or maybe the left. Either way, take your pick.

You'd think that the parasitic community would place blame upon Microsoft, right? Alas, Microsoft has had the bug patched since September 2000. Not only that, Windows XP , the latest in the suite of high-powered, stable operating systems from Microsoft Corp., has this patch built in. That's right, built in. Keep in mind that Windows XP was released in October 2001, over three months ago. Meanwhile, no one knows what the hell Alan Cocks has been doing since then, since he hides under the cloak of secrecy. nVidia has been informing users via tech support, even to the Linux community, how to fix the problem for months now. Clearly the blame is upon Alan Cocks's shoulder, but to place the blame where it is rightfully justified is inexcusable in the Linux community. The drones are in disarray.

The actual bug occurs when Linux users contract the Tux Racer virus via KEmail. When first run, Tux Racer enables a feature in your third-world sweatshop AMD processor called "extended paging." Now, I know you're probably thinking that this sounds like some sort of Nokia feature. Well, you're wrong. It's yet another feature that AMD illegally hacked from Intel. It allows your browser to seamlessly view pages up to 4Mb in size. Before its introduction in the early days of the Intel Pentium processor, web pages were broken up into 4K segments, because any pages larger would freeze the computer. That's why Microsoft didn't invent Javascript until after the Pentium, every time they went to use it, their pages exceeded 4K, and henceforth froze the computer. Intel came to the rescue with the Pentium line of chips, and, as usual, AMD got out their super high tech Asian hacking tools and "reverse-engineered" (code-name for 'illegally hacked') Intel's technology. Thus, users of the inferior AMD Cyrix Kx86-2 Now! processor could also view large web pages without crashing. So why did no one notice that pages larger than 4K would crash AMD processors? Well, Microsoft has had a fix for 16 months, like we mentioned earlier. But why did no one from the Linux community notice? Well, apparently, there does not exist a page devoted to Linux that is more than 4K in size. Since most of the Linux installations out there denounce color as 'feature bloat,' all Linux pages follow an unwritten oath to suck. Believe me, they all do.

So, for the good of Linux, you may now disperse. Head off to various tech sites and continue blaming Microsoft for not telling you sooner. Your community will thank you.

Thanks to John and all the other Judges!

I had a lot of fun working on Axis Runner,
a game i have been working on and off for some years now.
It is inspired by the apple II game "Lode Runner".
I added another dimension and changed the topology of things a bit :),
but you still run around diging holes, and collecting parcels.

It's not released yet anywhere, and you may need to be a genius to play it,
but you can download the latest source from my page here.
I still work on it, currently i am working on the audio engine.

-simon

um no
it does NOT directly run on tcp/ip.

In moments like this you really begin to wonder about capitalism!!!! I love competition and freedom like the rest of us, but man this secrecy thing bugs me...

You can have both freedom (civil && professional) without UltraFree-Market-Capitalism. Further, capitalism is not about "freedom" at all - in fact, it makes fewer people "free" than it makes "un-free"*... its rule by capital; Undemocratic, Unequal and Unfair.

See: here regarding that issue... take the survey - its fun(!).

* Think Plutocrat && Wage Slave; The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles...

I'm not sure I understand this comment. The very link you reference states that there is no chance the purported takeover ever happened. I agree that governments are the groups you really have to worry about, but it's not clear that weaknesses of this type have already been exploited.

This is a problem that has already come to cause others harm. Almost three years ago, hackers seized control of a British military satellite and demanded ransom for it. All that is needed to communicate with these satellites is an antenna, and proper knowledge of the protocols involved. While these things are out of reach to script kiddie types, it's not that much of a stretch for the kind of people you really have to worry about (foreign governments and large/resourceful criminal organizations). So, you should think of these systems as being addressable by anyone. Consequently, I would take any and all lessons you can from the ways that people securely authenticate users on publicly-addressable computer systems.

Most importantly, it is a display of what can be achieved with off-the-shelf PC level hardware. Even the projector system is a lot cheaper than that used by the CAVE systems. And it uses Linux too!

Am I to understand that stealing cars is illegal in Australia? How... weird.

Especially weird for a country that is famous for a song about a bum who steals sheep and then kills himself rather than get taken alive by Johnny Law. Yes, that's what Waltzing Matilda's about. And they keep talking about making it their national anthem.

Am I to understand that stealing cars is illegal in Australia? How... weird.

Especially weird for a country that is famous for a song about a bum who steals sheep and then kills himself rather than get taken alive by Johnny Law. Yes, that's what Waltzing Matilda's about. And they keep talking about making it their national anthem.

Not entirely true. TiVos have been hacked to support ISA ethernet cards... making it possible to move, edit, burn, etc. your recorded TV.