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check out http://support.asus.com/download/download_item.aspx?product=20&model=Eee%20PC%204G(701)&SLanguage=en-us
and click on "Source Code"

Regards, Stu

... because here's a link to the source code:

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=Eee%20PC%204G(701)

A friend at work couldn't get Ubuntu working with his eee's wireless card for this reason.

Hummm. Seems if you look here and click the link to goto here you can search for "eee" and get the page for the eee PC, 2GB or 4GB. Then you do a /source (in firefox) and find the Source Download page.

Seems to me that source is provided, plus, it was released on the release day too. Unless this source isn't the source they are looking for.....

Hummm. Seems if you look here and click the link to goto here you can search for "eee" and get the page for the eee PC, 2GB or 4GB. Then you do a /source (in firefox) and find the Source Download page.

Seems to me that source is provided, plus, it was released on the release day too. Unless this source isn't the source they are looking for.....

Hummm. Seems if you look here and click the link to goto here you can search for "eee" and get the page for the eee PC, 2GB or 4GB. Then you do a /source (in firefox) and find the Source Download page.

Seems to me that source is provided, plus, it was released on the release day too. Unless this source isn't the source they are looking for.....

The source code is here: http://support.asus.com/download/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

It's been there since the Oct 16 launch of the eeePC in Taiwan.

The source code for the distro is posted in a 1.8GB tarball on Asus's support downloads site:

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=Eee%20PC%204G(701) -- Find the "Source Code" twisty and expand.

I posted this exact same link on Cliff's blog comments. Fucking people don't look around, don't even read the comments...

-G

The link seems not to be working.

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=Eee%20PC%204G(701)

Is this working better?

I cannot download 1.8 gigs at this moment so
I don't know whether this file includes the exact content that is in question here.
Even if it does not, then it seems that Asus is trying to do the right thing in here.
They have printed the GPL to manual shipped to the customers and have set up a download section.
The problem might be just a snafu that some component is not included.

Doesn't anybody know what is the response from Asus when pointed to them that something is missing?
Do they tell the complaining person to **** off or do they say
"Sorry, we didn't know XYZ was missing, we'll fix it right away."

The GPL does not require the sources to be put on any website at all.
All they require that the sources to be made available on request
If they respond to the request with "Well put the DVD on mail right away",
that would be perfectly fine and no GPL violation has happened.
So we really need to know what they say to a direct request to sources
before we can complain about them being in violation.

This link seems to include the source code.
Sure it is a little hard to find from the website, but there it is.

http://www.asus.com/prog_content/middle_download.aspx?l1=24&l2=0&l3=0&l4=0&model=1907&modelmenu=4

Or is this not the relevant source?

All you need would be an ASUS Eee.

I'm tempted to get one myself.

According to Asus the Eee PC will have models with Windows as the preinstalled OS. Guess that means it will run some version of Windows but the press release has very little in the way of details. Bet the price difference will be stark given the probable additional hardware requirements and Microsoft licensing fees.

Don't like hard drive. Don't trust it. The happy failure is when the /var partition goes wonky, and I can retrieve my data from the /home partition. The unhappy failure is when the drive (less than 3 year old Seagate Barracuda) stops reading my /home partition, and the Linux kernel starts complaining and making stuff up. This is why the stuff I really don't want to lose, I put in more than one hard drive. And DVDs with separate par2 disks.

Eee doesn't have disk option; it's soldered for cost, energy, and space reasons. It seems too small to fit any hard drive that I've heard of, but you could try some external hard drive. (Disclaimer: Nobody I've heard of has tried that particular external hard drive with the Eee.)

Unless you count the Asus EEEPC, which (depending on the model) has either 2, 4 or 8 Gig drives that come with Linux. They don't run Vista, but they do come with instructions & drivers for installing XP.

I'm sure Dell & such would follow suit much sooner if M$ would let them load XP instead of Vista, but Dell isn't afraid of Linux and will even be introducing solid state 32G laptops (I'm assuming running some sort of Windows) soon.

No, I don't think so.

Microsoft are well aware of the threat from other similar low-priced computers. Sales of Asus' Eee PC show there's a big market there that may undermine Microsoft's full-sized products.

They may initially target the OLPC, but their eye will be on extinguishing Linux on the commercial vendors' machines.

Embedded linux is happening already with some boards like the new asus p5e3

I see the )ASUS EEE (http://eeepc.asus.com/en/ and the OLPC (http://laptop.org/) as it's competition. Both are bigger, but also far more capable and less expensive.

The Asus Eee PC is a sub-notebook with a better CPU and a minimum of 2GB of solid state disk space. Prices in the US start at $269.

Cheap laptops from the majors like the eee pc thats due out soon? http://event.asus.com/eeepc/

ECC may be available
( I always build systems with http://www.crucial.com/ ECC RAM,
and no I'm nae affilliated,
but they're the ONLY brand who've never once proven flaky,
in my experience. . . )

but the problem is that almost no motherboards support ECC.

Gigabyte's GC-RAMDISK and GO-RAMDISK ( up-to 4GB ) hardware-ram-drive without ECC *support*,
is typical of this idiocy:
The only way to make the things trustworthy is to run a RAID5 or RAID6 array of 'em,
and that gets bloody expensive
( though the speed. . . kernel-raid5 is quick, eh? )

http://usa.asus.com/ is the only consumer-brand I know-of,
other-than maybe Abit ( it's been awhile for me to've seen one of 'em. . . )
that provides ECC support.

Gigabyte generally don't, and if they don't. . . who does?

Supermicro & Tyan? No SLI/Crossfire/sea-of-ports on them, eh?

Better buy, better performance, bigger disk, lower price. Same small form factor.

Only real advantage the olpc still has imho is the swiveling screen.

http://event.asus.com/eeepc/

Asus G1S is the same - you can run XP on them but you have to find the drivers yourself and it's a real pain to install.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20070731141139875&board_id=3&model=G1S&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

Because the XP doesn't have drivers included for the SATA chip, you either need to slipstream them into XP or use a USB floppy. It looks like you need to nuke the whole thing, repartition and install XP first and then Vista second too

http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/post-738142.html&sid=2379b1d8d49003d966b49652db3ee5d4

All of which looks like too much trouble to be worthwhile. And it's not clear if G1S is even supported on XP. Shame really, and I still need to test stuff on XP occasionally and my ancient XP laptop is falling apart.

It's not out yet, but it will be soon. Sorry the site uses flash (which annoys the hell out of me, but it's still a damn cool machine, I'll be buying one when it comes out myself.)

http://event.asus.com/eeepc/

...those SLI motherboards for AM2 are around $150 vs. the $220 + for Intel ones.

The upgrade train is out of steam. M$ has lost it's ability to force broken new crap onto it's customers. There is nothing subtlety about Vista and Office 2007's push. Vista obsoleted 95% of the PCs on the market at release and came with a GUI harder to figure out than KDE. Office 2007 not only foist a new file format on a market striving for sane standards like ODF, it pushed a brand new GUI. People don't want these things and have rejected Vista. M$'s position is going to get worse as their channels continue to revolt and $200 laptops running free software flood the market.

Good bye M$. The world will be a better place without your NDAs, format wars and legislative corruption.

I think it would be stupid to take a high frequency then drop frames, would be more annoying and result in a "jerky" experience, but check the specs yourself: http://asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1 378&l1=10&l2=86&l3=355&l4=0 (I am not sure why it asks for a password, just cancel.)

Then try one o' these bad boys. I know I want one. Yes, a little more than $500, but then again it can actually do stuff.

hey nigger,
http://asus.com/
Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)

USE YOUR SMALL FIELD MONKEY BRAIN

Even simpler. Bittorent-capable router. With web interface.

If this form factor is restrictive, then the Mac mini's energy efficient notebook chipset (Intel 945GM) can be had in a microATX motherboard w/PCI Express x16 slot (Asus N4L-VM DH, $82 at Newegg), a FlexATX motherboard (Tyan Tomcat i945GM), or Mini-ITX barebones (MSI Axis 945GM).

If you want Linux drivers, you have to let these companies know:

ASUS
Lenovo
HP
Power Color
HIS Tech
Sapphire

The suggested letter is:

Subject: Product Feedback

To whom it may concern,

I recently purchased one of your [graphics cards || notebooks || desktops] that had contained an ATI GPU. While I realize your products are catered toward Microsoft Windows users as they are your largest consumer base, I wish to use this product with Linux. I had used the [your model number for their product] with the ATI Linux drivers, and while they have improved a great deal recently, I still feel there is much room for improvement. The drivers in their current form run much slower under Linux than Windows, lack support for AIGLX (a visual desktop feature), and other features found within the Windows Catalyst drivers but not Linux.

I do realize you may not officially support Linux and that you have limited control over the development of these drivers, but I would kindly ask that you forward this comment to AMD and that you ask them to channel additional resources to the development of these drivers. In good time you should make Linux support from AMD a requirement. Another step that I would hope to see is including the ATI Linux display drivers on your support/driver CD. As the adoption of Linux on desktops continues to increase, I hope you are able to jointly improve your Linux presence with ATI/AMD.

[your name]

I've been using a D-Link 524 router for a while in my home setup. It's given me nothing but trouble, rebooting and randomly blocking computers on the network [part of it's built-in security junk, it's blocking logs show it will block perfectly valid computers for random reasons]. Firmware updates don't seem to fix it.

I got tired of that and searched for a router capable of running OpenWRT in case the default firmware sucked.

I found the Asus WL-500g Premium and bought that for about $100 at the time. The default firmware worked fine, but I decided to try openWRT, then tossed that in favor of X-Wrt which had a better web interface.

The router's current uptime is 37 days with no crashes or any oddities what so ever. Last restart was for a firmware reflash.

As for reception, try lesser-used channels. 6 is a really common channel, so try 1 or 11 instead [or any other channel].

Note however, that if you go the path of openWRT or X-wrt, you're going to have to spend some time working out the kinks at first. Mine worked fine, except wifi couldn't access wan, which took a bit to figure out how to fix it; openWRT's wiki and forum were a big help in figuring out that.

That is a great looking laptop. I guess if thats a Ferrari, then I wonder what this is: http://usa.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=4251 Maybe a Le Mans race-spec Corvette?

OCZ memory was the cheapest RAM I could buy that was on my ASUS mobo's QVL http://usa.asus.com/100/download/products/1198/119 8_10.zip. That is CERTAINLY not the case with Monster Cables.

Now, do I still feel like a rice-boy for having urban camo RAM in my computer? Yea, but it helped me build a nice computer with a giant 22" monitor for 1500 bucks (Newegg Wishlist #4258847, search Palladiate if you are curious).

The mobo is a socket AM2, an AMD socket with 940 pins.

The Intel GMA950 is the one Apple's using in the Mac Mini and MacBook laptops, and doesn't seem too horrible for an integrated shared-memory GPU; it runs all the spiffy OS X eye-candy nicely, and I've had people tell me that playing games (World of Warcraft natively, or City of Heroes after installing BootCamp and XP) on it is fine.

Since gaming isn't really your focus if you're running Linux ;-), I imagine the GMA950 chipset (or something newer) would be great for KDE/GNOME/etc. even when they start using OpenGL.

Maybe something like Asus' P5B motherboards (P5B-VM and P5B-V)?

(Note an Asus employee or stockholder, just a happy customer of an ASUS P4G8X Deluxe).

The Intel GMA950 is the one Apple's using in the Mac Mini and MacBook laptops, and doesn't seem too horrible for an integrated shared-memory GPU; it runs all the spiffy OS X eye-candy nicely, and I've had people tell me that playing games (World of Warcraft natively, or City of Heroes after installing BootCamp and XP) on it is fine.

Since gaming isn't really your focus if you're running Linux ;-), I imagine the GMA950 chipset (or something newer) would be great for KDE/GNOME/etc. even when they start using OpenGL.

Maybe something like Asus' P5B motherboards (P5B-VM and P5B-V)?

(Note an Asus employee or stockholder, just a happy customer of an ASUS P4G8X Deluxe).

Asus sells replacement parts for many of their notebook models online at http://estore.asus.com/shop/category.asp?catid=363 . They also sell barebone laptops under the 'Built on Asus' name, where you supply your own CPU/RAM/HDD/DVD/WiFi.

...considering the hardware is designed and manufactured by *ASUS*? The Asus W2Jb is the non-Apple version of the 17" Macbook Pro (and is superior in my estimation - even sports a built-in TV tuner).

It seems more likely that, since *ASUS* makes and sells these as Windows laptops, they will be quick to support Vista (and possibly already do).

For the latest drivers for the 17" Macbo^H^H^H^H^H Asus W2Jb, check this site:

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLa nguage=en-us

Select the W2000 series and the W2J model.

Do your homework, fool.

Asus - http://usa.asus.com/products2.aspx?l1=5&l2=70 - Not a single AMD-based 17" notebook. In fact, even in their other size ranges, no AMD CPUs

HP - See my previous comment. I don't consider HP to be a reputable vendor when it comes to consumer systems (consumer desktops and notebooks) - every HP notebook I've seen has been flimsy low-quality junk. No surprise, HP and Compaq are the same company!

Acer - It is honestly not possible to tell whether you are right in this regard. Acer doesn't let you shop based on system specs at all, they just provide you with a massive list of 20+ TravelMate model numbers and 20+ Aspire model numbers with no indication what number maps to what type of system without loading a description of EVERY SINGLE ONE. If a vendor can't even be bothered to organize their website properly, it's not a vendor I'm going to be ordering from.

Fujitsu - No 17" Turion 64 X2-based systems. In fact, no X2 systems at all, just a single low-end Turion 64 system with a 13.3" screen

If there are any Turion64 X2-based systems from reputable vendors, I can't find them. AMD's page which lists X2-based systems pretty much exclusively lists Compaq, HP, and a bunch of noname vendors.

It's sad - whatever merits the Turion 64 (and T64 X2) may have, they are made irrelevant by the fact that they are always bundled with low-end systems.

Wow.

TWO MONTHS AGO I paid EUR90 for an Asus WL-500gP router that does "offline" torrent downloads, runs linux and can have openWRT running.

Who'd pay $260?

Ah, the chord... at first I thought you were talking about this Asus

The W1, however, looks even nicer (but damn, where's the Core Duo?!?!), Carbon Fiber, 3.2kg.

The W1, however, looks even nicer (but damn, where's the Core Duo?!?!), Carbon Fiber, 3.2kg.

Let's get things straight. R Cubed says it's based on the Asus Z33A series of laptops. So let's compare the full Z33A specs on the "ultraportable" as Asus compares. http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&mod el=606&l1=5&l2=64&l3=0

It's a Centrino based system. Which means Intel Pentium M or Celeron Pentium M at 1.6 GHz or better and SpeedStep, Intel chipset, Intel WiFi. All supported, so we're good. Everything lines up nicely with much of everything... but there's a few bits that it falls on:

First, the graphics card isn't ATI or NVidia. It's Intel. That means no native OpenGL support and thus you can't play most Linux games, including Second Life. The graphics memory is also shared with main memory, which means it's going to be slower than anything dedicated. Those two alone is worth ditching the laptop for.

Second, the screen's only 1024x768. That means for most websites you need to expand Firefox full screen. My HP Omnibook 6000 has older ATI graphics and that's 1400x1050 -- enough screen real estate to run Firefox at 1024x900, a few aterms, and KDE... or KDE and Gimp at the same time. Even OpenOffice.org benifits from more room.

Third, there doesn't seem to be any word on doubling up on 9-cell batteries on Asus site. Remember, happiness is two batteries in the PC and 4+ hours of runtime.

This laptop? Not worth it. Go on Nextag or Pricewatch or maybe PriceGrabber, and search for NVidia based laptops.

That notebook looks just like an ASUS notebook. Did they just rebrand it, or did they actually change it?

Here are links to the company websites, look for "Silent-Pipe" or "Silent" in the name...
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/VGA/Products_Lis t.aspx?VenderType=ATi&BUSType=PCI-E&BUSSpeed=16
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/VGA/Products_Lis t.aspx?VenderType=NVIDIA&BUSType=PCI-E&BUSSpeed=16
http://usa.asus.com/products2.aspx?l1=2&l2=8
http://usa.asus.com/products2.aspx?l1=2&l2=6

Here are links to the company websites, look for "Silent-Pipe" or "Silent" in the name...
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/VGA/Products_Lis t.aspx?VenderType=ATi&BUSType=PCI-E&BUSSpeed=16
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/VGA/Products_Lis t.aspx?VenderType=NVIDIA&BUSType=PCI-E&BUSSpeed=16
http://usa.asus.com/products2.aspx?l1=2&l2=8
http://usa.asus.com/products2.aspx?l1=2&l2=6