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German here, wtf is Schlitz, drink-wise?

Schlitz is an American adjunct lager. Once the best-selling brand in the US, it made ill-advised changes to its formula in the 1970s which relegated it to obscurity. Schlitz was acquired by Stroh circa 1981, Stroh was acquired by Pabst in 1999. Pabst recreated the classic Schlitz formula in 2008.

It's decent for a mass-produced beer.

Not only that, we know how to make beer!

Unfortunately, a person would need to drink 3,520 pints of beer a day to get a high enough dose of the chemical to boost their brain power.

Or 2 pints of Hopalicious

Sierra Nevada: building what nasa did 30 years ago, this is designed for cargo and people. it is strictly suborbital. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

they make a great beer though! The hops alone will send you to the moon!

You must be talking about Voodoo Doughnut Maple Bacon Ale by Rogue. I had it a couple of years ago while visiting the brewery near Portland, OR. It's interesting, but a bit too interesting to have more than a pint, IMHO.

I'm told that it is not nearly as lame on the other side of the Atlantic, but I have my doubts.

It is one of the most amazing looking beers out there, and yet tastes alarmingly close to water. So sad.

They sell it in the Americas as Extra Foreign stout. American produces stuff that is far better.

I'm told that it is not nearly as lame on the other side of the Atlantic, but I have my doubts.

It is one of the most amazing looking beers out there, and yet tastes alarmingly close to water. So sad.

They sell it in the Americas as Extra Foreign stout. American produces stuff that is far better.

I'm told that it is not nearly as lame on the other side of the Atlantic, but I have my doubts.

It is one of the most amazing looking beers out there, and yet tastes alarmingly close to water. So sad.

They sell it in the Americas as Extra Foreign stout. American produces stuff that is far better.

I'm told that it is not nearly as lame on the other side of the Atlantic, but I have my doubts.

It is one of the most amazing looking beers out there, and yet tastes alarmingly close to water. So sad.

They sell it in the Americas as Extra Foreign stout. American produces stuff that is far better.

'nuf said.

10 seconds ago, I learned that "Graal" was a word

I knew it but I didn't know why.

Probably something to do with this

Enjoyed the names article, by the way.

that goat urine the US markets as beer is less than 1 standard drink.

Just to clarify something, you're talking about US beer like a lot of people talk about "music these days." You're focusing on the stuff that's aggressively marketed, not an actual representative sample. The microbrewed domestic beer is much better and has much more diversity than most beer that hops the pond that way. Much like I'm sure you have better beer down under than fosters, yet fosters is basically the only Australian beer that's available here. In my opinion, abbey beer is about the only type of beer that domestic micro-brew beer doesn't beat out imported beer that is available here, and that's largely because those damned Trappist monks religiously guard their secrets.

Bud light vs Fosters... maybe you have a point there, but they're both shit. End of Days vs Fosters, no way, American beer wins. You take your weak ass 5% ABV and I'll take my delicious 8.5%.

Also, you have a very strange idea of freedom. The ability to endanger other people's lives is sacrosanct and must be protected? This I do not understand. What about the rights of other road users not to be put in undue danger?

Not sure if that was an intentional strawman or your simply misunderstood. The loss of freedom was over what you could drink at dinner. It's not loss of an essential freedom on the level of free speech, but keep in mind that every law restricting something you can do does impinge on your freedom. Hopefully, most freedoms the government takes away from you aren't things you would want to do anyway (murder for example.) But you do lose freedom.

that goat urine the US markets as beer is less than 1 standard drink.

Just to clarify something, you're talking about US beer like a lot of people talk about "music these days." You're focusing on the stuff that's aggressively marketed, not an actual representative sample. The microbrewed domestic beer is much better and has much more diversity than most beer that hops the pond that way. Much like I'm sure you have better beer down under than fosters, yet fosters is basically the only Australian beer that's available here. In my opinion, abbey beer is about the only type of beer that domestic micro-brew beer doesn't beat out imported beer that is available here, and that's largely because those damned Trappist monks religiously guard their secrets.

Bud light vs Fosters... maybe you have a point there, but they're both shit. End of Days vs Fosters, no way, American beer wins. You take your weak ass 5% ABV and I'll take my delicious 8.5%.

Also, you have a very strange idea of freedom. The ability to endanger other people's lives is sacrosanct and must be protected? This I do not understand. What about the rights of other road users not to be put in undue danger?

Not sure if that was an intentional strawman or your simply misunderstood. The loss of freedom was over what you could drink at dinner. It's not loss of an essential freedom on the level of free speech, but keep in mind that every law restricting something you can do does impinge on your freedom. Hopefully, most freedoms the government takes away from you aren't things you would want to do anyway (murder for example.) But you do lose freedom.

Taiwan Gold Medal on tap. Nothing special, really, but cheap and quite drinkable. And being locally produced, it's quite fresh, especially from the keg.

8.3 percent alcohol by volume.

Need to get an early start if you expect to stay drunk all day long.

See Beer Advocate. American beer isn't all crappy lager in cans... we have an incredibly vibrant craft beer and homebrewing scene. I drink the former and make the latter myself, and these lips shall never meet swill! Mostly because it's cheaper to brew up a quick ten gallon batch of pale ale than to buy a vomit-inducing Budweiser. I guess it speaks to the power of marketing that folks outside of (or even inside!) the US think so lowly of our beer.

Extra apropos: Eisbock. More alcohol, less water!

Actually, there is no reason for alcohol to be sold by volume other than that it usually is. I've seen a handful of smaller brewers and imports that sell by weight.

from http://beeradvocate.com/articles/518:

"To convert ABW to ABV, simply multiply the ABW by 1.25. So a 7 percent ABW beer would be a 9 percent ABV beer. If for some reason you want to convert from ABV to ABW, multiply the ABV percent by 0.8"

While not really being NSFW in the classic sense, I really really don't want my employer to see my weblogs including things like "Free Shipping on Yellowcake Uranium!"

Relax. Have a beer (the label features a picture of a cute chick riding a bomb, so I'm willing to forgive the fact that they got the isotope wrong, and for that matter, they also got the element wrong for the bomb she's riding. It's a tasty beer, though, especially if you like hops.)

Is what beer he prefers, when he does drink beer.

...

Voiceover: He's Julian Asange, the most dangerous man in the world.

[Pull in to frame up Assange sitting in a dimly lit booth between two beautiful, yet angry women.]

[Half a box of expired condoms is slightly out of focus in the foreground]

Assange: I don't always drink beer; Hovever, when I do, I drink Arrogant Bastard Ale.

Given that "Sink the Bismark" recieved decent reviews of a sort I'd have to trust that they know what they're doing. Maybe the 18 month aging process helps.

BTW, it's ester. No 'h'.

What do you get when you just order a beer in a bar where you live? Here in Germany that tends to mean what the closest brewery produces, unfortunately my town's brewery isn't terribly good. The neighboring city got some better breweries but unfortunately the bars in this town don't stock their products.

Most US bars that don't care about serving "better beer" have about the same selection: a variety of Budweiser, Miller, Coors, or similar, including a few that count as imports, like Heineken and Corona, and then one or two obligatory beers for the snobs like me who want something that actually tastes good. That's often a Samuel Adams Boston Lager, which is decent, and/or something made locally. In those places I usually go for the local whatever or the Sam Adams. I can also drink the cheap shitty beer, since the reason it's normally shitty is that it's not entirely unlike drinking water, but I rarely have reason to. I have the fortune of living in an area that has a lot of very good breweries relatively close by, so there's usually at least one beer that I'll like.

Note that, in the US, a "local" brewery could be a few hundred miles away, but is usually in the same state, unlike Germany where a local brewery has the same PLZ.

Generally, I try to go to bars/pubs that have far better selections of beer. The majority of beers in places like that are American craft brews, plus a decent amount of imported craft beer, mostly from England, Germany, and Belgium. For example, this place has 70 beers on tap, almost as many in bottles, and is just a few blocks from where I lived the past two years :)

I don't actually have anything against coffee, but I don't drink it because I can wake up on my own, and I don't find its taste compelling enough to drink all the time. I think the comparison between alcohol and caffeine probably has more to do with the reasons people have for drinking it.

Drinking coffee to wake up every morning will probably lead to dependence. Drinking coffee because it tastes good, at somewhat irregular times, probably won't. Similarly, drinking beer just because it's delicious(*) and the light buzz is pleasant probably won't lead to dependence, but drinking to make yourself happier or to "escape" in any way probably will. It's much easier to become dependent on something that you, you know, depend on.


(*) I'm wholly on board with you that most super pale, weak, flavorless "beer" is vile; that's why I drink better beer.

Dogfish Head 120 minute IPA is delicious at 18%. Flying Dog Double Dog double IPA is fantastically hoppy at 11.5% if you want something weaker. Stone Brewery's Double Bastard (amazing brewery) is a fantastic American Strong Ale at 10.5%. 120 minute: http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/120-minute-ipa.htm Double Dog: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/68/35754 Double Bastard: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/147/1056

Dogfish Head 120 minute IPA is delicious at 18%. Flying Dog Double Dog double IPA is fantastically hoppy at 11.5% if you want something weaker. Stone Brewery's Double Bastard (amazing brewery) is a fantastic American Strong Ale at 10.5%. 120 minute: http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/120-minute-ipa.htm Double Dog: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/68/35754 Double Bastard: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/147/1056

Ummm - yeah, Budweiser sucks. Its also a foreign company (owned in Belgian InBev) as is Miller (owned by South African SAB).

The top three American breweries are currently Sam Adams, Yuengling and Sierra Nevada (and I think New Belgium is fourth). Absolutely nothing to be ashamed of there - all quite fine brews.

And at the very high end, it really isn't even close - many of the best beers in the world are made in the US. This list is mostly US brews, with a smattering of Belgian and German breweries in the mix. Or, as noted beer expert, Michael Jackson (The Beer Hunter, not the circus freak) put it: "The US has the world's best selection of beers and that's the truth."

We have a beer called "Crop Circle" in the US (Madison, WI to be precise). Probably other places as well.

You are quite uninformed. As a card-carrying beer geek, I can tell you that craft and micro beers brewed with actual, real coffee are a significant niche. They are always advertised as such, so we're not talking about your Young's Double Chocolate or Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout here. (as much as I enjoy those, they do not contain actual coffee)

No, we're talking about lovely beers like Beer Geek Breakfast, from Denmark. The 2008 World Beer Cup had 24 different entries in the Coffee Beer category. Here's a nice article to acquaint you with the basics.

Some of these beers have significant amounts of caffeine. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but regular and decaffeinated coffee taste quite different. That's because to get decaffeinated beans, they are soaked in a solvent to remove as much of the caffeine as possible, up to 8 or 10 times. Considering that there are over 400 different chemicals in coffee that comprise the flavor of the final drink, it's not surprising that a lot of richness and subtlety is lost in this process.

To put it mildly, I'm quite concerned about this investigation. The FDA has a record of passing down heavy-handed, poorly-written rulings based as much on press as science: laws so broadly written and interpreted that the law of unintended consequences will be in full effect.

Have they taken a Buffalo Gold-en shower ?

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/130/5088

You've apparently never had Professor Gesser's Mind-Numbing Ale from the Bluegrass Brewing Company,... ;-)

She is too busy selling beer. In any case, they have plenty of money to astroturf, which is what this really is. His best hope if to have free, or at least tax free beer, as he certainly isn't supporting any other personal freedoms.

Was it The Beast? I've heard that this shite wins taste tests, but have yet to coroborate anything better than bronze. Still though. What's wrong with "American-Style Lager" beer drinkers?

Why go to Belgium for Belgian-style beer? North America has some amazing offerings...

• Unibroue
• New Belgium Brewing Company

Several breweries also make one or more Belgian-style beers even though the brewery isn't know primarily for Belgian beer... BeerAdvocate would be the place to find those.

You are part of the problem.

The word "save" isn't that hard of a word to grasp. People save money. People save possessions. Saving documents is no different. Grade schoolers understand it.

Actually he is right and you are wrong. You shouldn't have to save a document, that is stupid. If you write a letter does it go *poof*? No, it doesn't. One shouldn't have to save anything, it should JUST BE THERE. To put it in terms you may understand, since you have not achieved enlightenment, if I close the lid of a portable, and it sleeps (if you aren't a Mac users perhaps this is a bit advanced, try to keep up), should whatever I was working on be gone when I open it up? No, of course not. Why should closing a program throw away a lot of hard work?

Thimk, damnit.

This is a horrible analogy: the last time I checked, turning a key didn't do something as devestating as, say, deleting your car.

OK, let's stick with the paper and pen analogy I used, the car analogy you use is overused, yes, in the fucking article, too.

You take a sheet of paper. You write on it. You decide you don't like it. You drop it in the trash. Is it gone forever? Stupid programmers think so. Actually you should be able to retrieve it. Should there be a "shred" function that really erases it and overwrites the bits on the media? Yes, and THAT should have a confirmation.

You still with me? Brain tired from all these new thoughts? Go have a tasty beverage. No no, I'll wait. In fact, I think I'll have one.

I've made messages that were very easy, simple to read and understand, only to have them overlooked.

Perhaps your messages weren't really needed? I realize I'm asking you to be, y'know, like introspective, like OMG!!1! But take a look at it from a user's eyes.
1) Do they really really need to see your dialog? Isn't there an intelligent way to handle things that render it unnecessary?
2) You say the messages were "very easy, simple to read and understand". Did you, hmm, oh, say, TEST IT WITH REAL USERS? Or put another way, are you a dumbshit or did you test it with real users?
3) So, what happens when the user overlooks your glorious, very easy, simple to read and understand, dictatorship of the elite message? Can they recover in a trivial way or are they fucked forever because your brain is defective?

Rather than think he might be right, and putting real thought into it, you pick away at what you view as flaws. Your thinking is superficial and somehow I suspect your programs are anything but user-centric. You may have a brain, you may be salvagable, but you'll have to get off your high horse, swallow some pride, count your chickens before they're hatched, uh, wait, I think I had one too many tasty beverages....

So, an iMac or 600 bottles of Guinness. College student unimpressed.

College student... Guinness?? More like Natural Light. For the price of an iMac you can buy about 600 12-packs of "Natty Lite."

So you'd obviously never tried to explore the world of beer as there is far more to it than Bud, Millers and Coors would have you believe. Just look at http://www.ratebeer.com/ or http://www.beeradvocate.com/ (yes, there are a few snobs but most of them are as 'normal' as a typical Slashdot reader).

No the real problem is it that you did not #include Irish.h and you used beer.h not Real_non_US_Shit_Beer.h

Then set the limit of MAX_BEERS to a sensible value for a real Irish person of 0x999999999999

but production is different. I found a site listing 2 breweries in Jordan: http://beeradvocate.com/beerfly/directory/13/JO/ and another that mentions "General Investment Company are the producers of Amstel Beer in Jordan"

Most people associate beer with cheap piss, generally only drinking it as a social lubricant and really ignoring the true flavours of the beer. That's true for just about any mass-produced beer (VB, Fosters, Bud, Miller, Heineken).

Go out and trying a real beer for once, and not just Guinness on St Pats (arguably not that great a beer). Some of the world's greatest beers are quite accessible and will blow your socks off with their complexity and flavour.

Similar to wine coinnoseurs, there are also those who are (mostly self-professed) experts in beer, preferring something good like a trappist beer with their meal to wine, and deservingly so. A properly brewed beer's a lot more interesting to have with a meal than wine, and there's infinitely more variety.

Heineken is not a good beer. Really. In Holland it's considered mediocre. If you see a beer everywhere, then it's mosty likely crap. Stella's pissy too. Budvar, Pilsener Urquell, Hertog Jan...they're ok for lagers.

A coding session's a heck of a lot more enjoyable when combined with a decent brew. But be careful, too good a beer will distract! Some of my best output's come after having a good Belgian.

Seriously. Go down to your nearest large speciality bottle shop/liquor store and find a few bottles of the higher rated beers that you can find. Drink them, out of the proper glassware and at the right temperature then you'll never go back to a macro again. It could get more expensive, but damn it's worth it. A hint - drink light-coloured beers in warmer weather and darker ones in cool weather.

And then you can have good beer all the time.

Most people associate beer with cheap piss, generally only drinking it as a social lubricant and really ignoring the true flavours of the beer. That's true for just about any mass-produced beer (VB, Fosters, Bud, Miller, Heineken).

Go out and trying a real beer for once, and not just Guinness on St Pats (arguably not that great a beer). Some of the world's greatest beers are quite accessible and will blow your socks off with their complexity and flavour.

Similar to wine coinnoseurs, there are also those who are (mostly self-professed) experts in beer, preferring something good like a trappist beer with their meal to wine, and deservingly so. A properly brewed beer's a lot more interesting to have with a meal than wine, and there's infinitely more variety.

Heineken is not a good beer. Really. In Holland it's considered mediocre. If you see a beer everywhere, then it's mosty likely crap. Stella's pissy too. Budvar, Pilsener Urquell, Hertog Jan...they're ok for lagers.

A coding session's a heck of a lot more enjoyable when combined with a decent brew. But be careful, too good a beer will distract! Some of my best output's come after having a good Belgian.

Seriously. Go down to your nearest large speciality bottle shop/liquor store and find a few bottles of the higher rated beers that you can find. Drink them, out of the proper glassware and at the right temperature then you'll never go back to a macro again. It could get more expensive, but damn it's worth it. A hint - drink light-coloured beers in warmer weather and darker ones in cool weather.

And then you can have good beer all the time.

I doubt you could get drunk on American beer no matter how much you drink.

Right, you've never tried craft beers. Educate yourself!.

And FYI, if a bottle of 10% abv Stone's Double Bastard doesn't do you in that means you have a serious problem.

Article on American Double IPAs here:
http://beeradvocate.com/news/stories_read/599/

Stoudt's Double IPA is to be consumed with caution, weighing in a 10.0 abv.
Its mighty tasty.

"microbreweries" are, by and large, no better than mass-produced beer.

This is so incredibly false - American micro- and craft breweries produce some of the greatest beers in the wor. And none of the breweries you mentioned are microbreweries, anyway, let alone the fact that Yuengling, Matt's (makers of Saranac), and High Falls (what was known as Genesee until a few years ago) all make crappy macro-style lager, not craft beers. You would know this if you were a true beer drinker, which you've already admitted to not being.

In conclusion, Beer Advocate has everything you need to know. American beer is not crap, the only people who think that are people who've never tried anything more exotic than MGD.

Canada is a big place too. I prefer microbreweries like Lighthouse Brewing Company or Okanagan Springs. The latter produce a beer with no preservatives or pasteurization in keeping with the Bavarian Purity Law of 1516. They just use Water, Barely, Hops and Yeast.

This stout has coffee added to it and it is fantastic. Its rated #14 in the top 100 beers of the world at Beer Advocate If you live in Southern California its fairly easy to find in high-end grocery stores and better liquor stores.

"The glass is half full of beast." -Herbmaster

You are confusing the temperature the beer is kept at while fermenting (cold maturation - or lagering) with the temp. that a beer should be served at. Even then, beer isn't lagered at anywhere near 32F. Serving a beer "Ice Cold" is fine if you don't want to taste the beer... but if you care about tasting it, it's best to serve it a bit warmer... low 40's (F) for a lager, low 50's (F) for an ale.

Don't believe me? Try a Bud (shiver) or your favorite macro at Ice Cold temps, then again at 55F... it will be nearly undrinkable at 55, beacuse you can actually taste it.

If you really want to learn more about beer, go here.

It's the Contextual Linkage Engine that will be part of KDE4. They got some pretty cool ideas which you can read about in that article and also in the comments.

The Delirium Cafe in Brussels has more than 2000 beers in just one pub. Such a pity I'm not a beer drinker.

You are correct about the "chocolate" beers -- that is a darker roasted malt. However, lambics especially and often weizens will be flavored with actual fruit. Check out Beer Advocate for all your beer knowledge needs.