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As many have already mentioned, even the official client has support for upload capping, but that limits your downloads too. And the creators also considered the possibility that someone would make a hacked client without that limitiation.

That is why they made it so, that the different clients consult with each other and someone isn't doing any uploading everyone else limits their uploads to him. This is also mentioned in the BitTorrent FAQ. A very nice system which all P2P applications should have.

Go download bittorrent and use that link. I just downloaded it for this movie and probably got everything (including the download) in under ten minutes. There's nothing to learn, I didn't even restart mozilla - it's so easy you don't have to even think about it. Sorry if I sound like a slashvertisement, but it's a great way to download a file.

Ever since I've gotten into using BitTorrent, BT for short. One of the biggest sites for Torrents (.torrent checksum files) is on a .cx TLD (Top Level Domain:) Torrentse.cx

The legal problems with this are why the slashdot editors have never done this, it's well documented in the FAQ, and the subject has been beaten to death in the comment boards. The best solution that I can see is developing some sort of bittorrent system for it.

If anybody is able to make any mirrors (especially for the ISO image), please do so.

Try BitTorrent. If you can get a .torrent up for the ISO, the bandwidth use will go down.

BitTorrent, of course. Videos of drunk white women for Ev-verrry-body! Oh, and of course, lots and lots of warez.

I understand the concept of BitTorrent, but is it a faster download or is it just being nice to Terra Soft's poor little mirrors?

For more info on BT, visit the official BitTorrent site.

Moderator, you do know what bittorent is, right?

-- YLFI

uhmmm ... bittorrent anyone?

I think that you're basically referring to what BitTorrent basically does. If the demo's were, at least in part, distributed this way perhaps the demos would actually get more play and more people would be able to get them. **Sigh** I remember complaining when the demo for Quake was a whopping 8MB...

As a side note, BitTorrent is good, but it's still got it's problems. I've had horrible download speeds (8-9 k/s on a T3), but others rave about it. Maybe it's just my university regulating traffic...

Between the time I submitted the story and the time it was run, the website hosting the ISO went offline, undoubtedly due to bandwidth issues. However, Scarywater did pick it up, and has quite a few people torrenting it now. I hardly think I need to remind people to leave their BitTorrent clients open for a while after their own download finishes, do I? :)

The MacOS X client is available on BitTorrent.

If bandwidth gets to be too much, why not consider BitTorrent? I'm sure if you wrote a custom tracker, you'd be able to keep piracy to a minimum and lower your bandwidth costs.

Just a thought.

Gnutella
Bit Torrent
Freenet
Reiserfs
Linux Kernel
Open SSH
Encrypted Filesystems
GnuPG

At least in my opinion p2p and crypto are the edges in coding right now. Both can be hugely successful if you succeed in writing them properly. They can also be a huge failure if done improperly. Personally, I'm amazed that there aren't more p2p worms/remote exploits out there. Every now and then there are a few breaks in crypto from a weird angle, but in general they have been very successful as well.

I expected some way to search... this looks more like a project to index the web rather than make the results available for public use via web interface. Did it strike anyone else odd that there was no web form on the home page with which to search?!

It seems like a good concept, but the availability of the information collected needs to be accessible without installing the client. I'm not game to install distributed computing apps without some freely available benefit. The "for the good of the world" motivation went out the window for me about a day after my first Seti At Home experience. (But now BitTorrent, there was appreciable benefit. I had RedHat 9 isos within 8 hours of their initial release!)

I know this is off-topic somewhat, but I wonder if the guys at id would consider using BitTorrent to distribute the official downloadable Doom III Shareware when it comes out. That would be much better than offering it by mere FTP. (FTP sites seem to just jam up when big games like that come out, and FileShack is going to have long waits, at least for freeloaders.) BitTorrent is cool.

(I'm assuming of course that they do come out with a shareware version. As popular as the guys at id are, they could probably skip it, and they know it. Like most gamers, I will buy the game anyway, right after I buy a new 4 GHz Pentium 5. Heh. But if I have a shareware version to run on my old computer, I might decide that I can put up with the low framerate for a while, and buy the full game before I buy a new computer. So they get their money sooner. -- On the other hand, I might decide the framerate is too low, and then I have to wait until I buy a new computer. But at least I'll know.)

So, guys at id, are you listening? How 'bout it?

Try the following bittorrent link if the mirrors are too slow: http://f.scarywater.net/Kipling_2003_prank_-_Pac-M an.torrent.

All feature requests still go thru Bram at bitconjurer.org to be included in the official Python release, but if you'll wait a few days and add it to the SF feature request/bug tracker, we'll get around to it too.

If I haven't mentioned it already, the original Python client is utterly awesome.

I've been discussing this with another /. user. Perhaps if wget fired up and did a recursive web-suck on all articles that are linked to in the abstract, tar'd and gzip'd each one, and then mirrored them with BitTorrent? That way the OSDN doesn't have to pay for the bandwidth.

The other solution I've heard is posting the articles to FreeNet and linking to the key. More convenient (you don't have to de-tar the articles) but much slower.

Right now the server is still fast.... but if that changes:

I grabbed the large versions and set up some torrents for use with BitTorrent (a P2P download system that helps reduce bandwidth usage for servers). You can grab the full-sized figure 1 with text here and the the full-sized figure 2 with text here.

Hopefully this will work properly ;)

For first past on large files from a single source, rsync has much more overhead. Try bittorent, and do distributed d/ling. See here http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/download.html

Help distribute the load.. use BitTorrent
When it's installed, click the following link to begin downloading: RedHat 9

No need to duplicate the effort.

Go here: http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/download.html For the bittorent d/l - btw works fine with bittorrent++ too.

On the back is a blurb saying the disc is designed to play on CD players, DVD players, PCs and Macs. What it doesn't say is that in order to play it on a computer you're supposed to use the software on the disc (hmm... totally future-proof). Furthermore, it autoruns an installer to install the software.

I wonder how long it'll be before the installer not only auto-runs, it also auto-installs (like the installation for BitTorrent which doesn't ask any questions).

Best bet is to disable the autorun feature.

Google also found a neat page with other security information (the autorun info is toward the bottom).

File Sharing/p2p is becoming more and more novel.

Bittorrent, for example, can integrate seemlessly through the web. This kind of file sharing would be very hard to stop--- to the point where the RIAA would have to crack down on search engines.

Because Redhat 9 ISO's are still available on BitTorrent via http://f.scarywater.net.

It's stupid to clog up Kazaa (a low-bandwidth solution given the number of leechers and lack of swarming 2.0 clients) given the massively superior alternative to legally distributing a few large files that is BitTorrent - it works so much better because you're forced to do your share of uploading (or your download speed is crippled).

I've had BitTorrent going since last night, and I have about half of the ISOs so far.

Hmmm....

Did you notice that you have to use Mozilla to view the graphics that describe how a plugin for IE works?

Anybody find that just a bit ironic?

(Yeah, you can get the source, but how the !@# do you install that for Moz on *nix?)

Sure. Check out this.

I will try to describe as good as I can. BitTorrent uses a technique called tit-for-tat (or choking algorithm) as a dynamic download/upload ratio. The faster you upload, the faster you will can download.

Each peer has a list of other peer it's connected to. As of this moment, over 800 people are downloading redhat 9, but every single peer is connected to about 50 other peers. In the normal case, a peer has 4 upload slots, so it uploads to 4 other peers at any single time. But it downloads from as many peers as possible. It tries to give those 4 upload slots to the peers that currently is giving the fastest download speed. Since new peers can arrive which give even better download speed it has one optimistic upload slot which change peer every now and then to try out new peers.

When a download is complete, the 4 upload slot just try to give to the people who can download the fastest.

More about the protocol

This is a known issue, not in BitTorrent, but in various USB DSL modem drivers and network card drivers. Linksys and Netgear have some known buggy drivers. Refer to the question titled "BitTorrent makes my machine blue screen! What should I do?" in the BitTorrent FAQ, and see http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.buchanan/winmx/faq- restart.html for a page which also mentions this problem as it applies to WinMX, another P2P client.

Here is a bittorrent link, even though I found the mirrors to be quite fast for knoppix. I'll look forward to tomorrow when redhat 9 is released with bittorrent. That will be fun.

Download Bittorrent
Download Knoppix 3.2

For those that don't know, BitTorrent is a way of reducing bandwidth while keeping speeds high. The more people that are downloading, the faster the download goes.

Basically, everybody who is downloading, is also uploading what they have to somebody else, and the burden of hosting the file is distributed among all the downloaders. It reduces bandwidth for the server, and you could think of it as impervious to the slashdot effect.

It's sort of a combination of p2p with the client/server model, but leaning more towards client/server. It is really great, and I can't imagine why it hasn't caught on outside of the Anime world. Give it a try!

can anyone put this on BitTorrent? It is perfect for this stuff. (Getting 150k/sec on Mandrake 9.1 ISO downloads right now)

For anyone who uses BitTorrent, here is a torrent file with which to download the ISO.

BitTorrent Link of Mandrake 9.1 <-- You need BitTorrent to click here.

Download BitTorrent Here or `apt-get install bittorrent` on debian, and I think there is a port for it for you FreeBSD people.

Anyone who wants to get this file, should try using BitTorrent to get it. It is a file swarming application that helps everyone get the file by uploading pieces of the file you have already downloaded. It should transfer faster, and the best part is, everyone gets the file faster than the Mandrake FTP site, which I am sure has limited bandwidth.

Props to the other people mentioning BitTorrent.

BitTorrent Link of Mandrake 9.1 <-- You need BitTorrent to click here.

Download BitTorrent Here or `apt-get install bittorrent` on debian, and I think there is a port for it for you FreeBSD people.

Anyone who wants to get this file, should try using BitTorrent to get it. It is a file swarming application that helps everyone get the file by uploading pieces of the file you have already downloaded. It should transfer faster, and the best part is, everyone gets the file faster than the Mandrake FTP site, which I am sure has limited bandwidth.

Props to the other people mentioning BitTorrent.

If all else fails, try getting it via Bittorrent (see this other Bittorrent post for more details).

I have briefly set up the following with lots of help from the folks on #bittorrent (thanks!):

Mandrake 9.1 Bittorrent link. If you are behind a NAT or a stateful firewall then the link will not work until a few people whose machines accept incomming connections start downloading from it. Clicking the link will not automatically work but it can easily be fed to the Bittorrent command line tools.

I found the concept of BitTorrent pretty cool; as a normal user you only share what you're currently downloading! Clients download in "segments" from multiple other clients in a distributed fashion.

There are problems; The space for the file "must" be preallocated. If you end after getting 50% there's no guarantee that you've got anything like a usable file (you can't expect even streamable files to work), and the fact that there are fewer and fewer sources to get data from as you approach the end of the file, this because clients usually close down when they've completed the download, thereby never giving the others a chance to download from the complete file.

BitTorrent is good for files that are mostly interesting for a short period of time, like for instance recorded TV-shows.

The one thing that is needed is some way to punish nodes that close down as soon as they've completed their download.

If you're not familiar with BitTorrent, it takes a large file (typically CD-size) chunks it up into ~1MB pieces, and client/peers who want the file either get chunks from the server or get pointed to other clients who already have them, and after receiving chunks correctly, make them available for other client/peers to download. The server keeps track of who's got what, manages its outgoing rates to something it can handle, and does some optimization to make sure all the chunks are getting handed out widely and efficiently, and either the client or server (I don't remember which, probably the server) does some anti-leech scheduling so that clients basically end up receiving at about the rate they're letting other people download from them if there's demand.

One big difference between BitTorrent and the eDonkey/Kazaa/etc. P2P systems is that it's designed on a per-file basis - anybody who wants to export a given file can be a server for that file, and the client/peer process only exports files that it's actively connected to (either still downloading or being friendly and letting other people download after it's done), rather than exporting everything in your file-sharing directory.

A slashdotting of something like this is exactly the type of thing that BitTorrent would be perfect for. Anyone with a tracker care to start it up?

I managed to get the file, so here's a mirror using BitTorrent. If you don't know what BitTorrent is, first go to the BT site and download and install the client (Windows/OSX/Unix versions available).

Please keep your BT window open for as long as possible (at least an hour or two) after your transfer completes. Thanks!

BT link for DivX (35MB file): http://cobaltnine.net/bt/FINALTRAILER_720_divx.avi .torrent

I managed to get the file, so here's a mirror using BitTorrent. If you don't know what BitTorrent is, first go to the BT site and download and install the client (Windows/OSX/Unix versions available).

Please keep your BT window open for as long as possible (at least an hour or two) after your transfer completes. Thanks!

BT link for DivX (35MB file): http://cobaltnine.net/bt/FINALTRAILER_720_divx.avi .torrent

Could somebody (preferably the operator of the site trying to host the trailers) please set up a BitTorrent stream of the highest resolution versions.

There really is no valid reason not to - it will make all involved much happier. Their server won't melt and everyone who wants the file will be able to download it. BitTorrent really is the best solution to distributing large files.

Looks like someone put up a bittorrent on that site here

download bittorent here

With bittorrent or swarmcast, you don't have to send it 500 times.

This is why stuff like BitTorrent (or) would be very cool.

Thus, only downloading 0day releases within a few days of their release is only when BitTorrent works well.

True (from my limited experience), but it still is p2p, even if it is specialized.

Also, you can't search on BitTorrent. You have to find websites to download from. If the website gets shut down, so does the ability to get the files.

Yes, but again, BT is a specialized p2p tool, not flawed. It cannot (and probably never wanted to) replace protocols like those used with Freenet or Gnutella.

The design goal was to make big files available to a relatively large number of people who know exactly what they want, with everyone participating in sharing the load.

But you made me think about a definition of p2p. I would probably come up with something very general.

A slide I found suggests that there is no consensus on the term. searchNetworking has a more precise definition. Hm, I'll do some reading...