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Here are some alternative icons for Debian Freefox:
-Firefox Icon v3 by Jyrik (remade from scratch)
-Mozilla Firefox Final by auto-logic
-Firefox Experiment N3 by weboso
-Tails as Firefox by polimero

I am sure all of these people would be happy to open source their designs.:P

Here are some alternative icons for Debian Freefox:
-Firefox Icon v3 by Jyrik (remade from scratch)
-Mozilla Firefox Final by auto-logic
-Firefox Experiment N3 by weboso
-Tails as Firefox by polimero

I am sure all of these people would be happy to open source their designs.:P

What's really lacking is artists.

With respect to open-source projects, that's certainly true.

I think it's harder to collaborate on art- Software forces a certain degree of conformity, while in art freedom is absolute- there's a huge proliferation of different styles that wouldn't look good next to each other in the same game.

Tools are partially to blame- they are prohibitively expensive and hard to master. There are some good open-source solutions: Gimp is okay for 2d stuff (please someone give it a docked interface rather than having to shuffle through dozens of independent windows...), though interface-wise I'd rather be using a copy of Deluxe Paint from ten years ago (and is there any paint program that allows you to assign one color and tool to the left button and another color and tool to the right button?). Wings 3D and Blender can do some good 3D stuff, but there's a lot missing for creating more complicated objects

The other problem is that the open-source community spirit hasn't infiltrated the art community yet. It may take a few years- I see in a site like deviantArt indicating a future where sharing and collaboration are more the rule. Artists may be less susceptible to the gpl ideology, or simply lack leadership- who would be the RMS or Linus of free software-art? And what is the standard license for distribution- something from Creative Commons?

This may not have the wow-factor of some of the fancier systems, but in terms of UI creativity I think this scores major points. Simplicity and power: the hallmark of Linux in general.

The original design
My take on it

This may not have the wow-factor of some of the fancier systems, but in terms of UI creativity I think this scores major points. Simplicity and power: the hallmark of Linux in general.

The original design
My take on it

The virus we need is one that changes the wallpaper on a Windows(tm) machine to a big crotch shot. It can't be that hard...

Ahem. I think you meant to say difficult.

I hate to say it, I really do, but I think you're on to something. That would at least cause people to wake up to what this crap is all about. Besides, it's also a lot less damaging than the other stuff that could happen. Rioting in the streets, planes falling out of the sky, dogs and cats sleeping together. You know, stuff like that.

DeviantArt is what you're looking for, me thinks.

Here's a couple of links:
The setup executable and The source code

Enjoy !

Here's a couple of links:
The setup executable and The source code

Enjoy !

Check out Deviant Art

Huge art community, some of the best work I've ever seen is on this site.

How many discussions about politics and technology are going on on SWIFT? How much art creation or intellectual pursuit? How many blogs or personal homepages?:)

As far as I am concerned, using SWIFT would be even less fun than using the internet behind the Great Firewall of China.

No. Although I'm kind of depressed. Patented AI... whee! That'd be nightmare prediction number #237 to come true since 1998.

Sosuke Sagara is an elite soldier who belongs to an independent special force named "Mithril". Mithril is a self appointed military force that fights terrorism across the globe. With technology that is far superior to that of normal nations, Mithril intercedes on behalf of justice. Sagara, a Second Lieutenant under Mithril's command, is assigned to the duty of protecting a girl named Kaname Chidori, who attends high school in Japan. To accomplish this task, he pretends to be a transfer student attending at Kaname's school. As Sagara settles into his new role as classmate, a massive plot unfolds beginning with the kidnapping of Chidori. What is Chidori's role in the conspiracy? Why does she seem to be born with knowledge of technology that has only been recently invented?

I wonder if Linus was referring to the Lear Beaver Hat Beaver. It looks stoned to me. Also, the article mentions that CONFIG_PREEMPT is causing bizzarre crashes that no one has really figured out yet, so if you enable it please remember to send in your bug reports.

Maybe not, but it would still be nice with a site where people interested in the art of music could get a place to introduce themselves on and host their music on. I liked mp3.com originally, but then it got a radical layout change so it became very hard to navigate the site IMHO (talking about the most recent layout with black background making it look like a bad porn site and not professional and clean at all).

I really enjoyed the service as a legal but still free way to get some good music in tidy categories to make everything easy to find. Soon enough, you got favorite artists that matched your music taste.

Deviant Art is a fabolous site for all sorts of graphics artists, whether they like design computer icons,application skins, like to draw full fledged freehand drawings, or is into photography. I really hope we'll see an equivalent site for music!

deviantart.com, IIRC, runs about 3 mysql servers behind a load-balancing cache/server, so have had to deal with a lot of the difficulties involved in that.

Read about this over a WHOLE HOUR ago on DA

Plug: My old Antiseptic Mozilla Icons are available from the deviantART website.

It's more of a classic pixel icon style, with an emphasis on a clear, easy-on-the-eyes, 16x16 pixel versions (as oppose to something blurry that was scaled down from a 32x32 version). =)

Screenshot

Plug: My old Antiseptic Mozilla Icons are available from the deviantART website.

It's more of a classic pixel icon style, with an emphasis on a clear, easy-on-the-eyes, 16x16 pixel versions (as oppose to something blurry that was scaled down from a 32x32 version). =)

Screenshot

Yeah, open content's nice. No royalties (sheet music), or public domain pictures would be nice

There's plenty of public domain pictures available on government web sites. Anything relating to anything the government does (military stuff, criminals, national parks, public officials) is good to go.

I also frequent an art site with an extensive collection of stock photography that is free for non-commercial use. I've used a fair bit of it in my open source art projects. It's only free if it's in the stock photography section, though.

http://www.deviantart.com

Actually Deviant Art is really good. They are huge, and I think they are free.

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archonon.deviantart.com

I'm a (self taught) musician, both solo and with a band... I also muck around making desktop wallpapers.

There might not be people waiting for you to put their game together, but there's certainly an amount of computer graphic art people out there. Try Deviant-Art for starters. They offer a HUGE library of images made by PEOPLE. The images themselves probably aren't that useful, though there are a few people who make icons and pixel art that might be useful. The point here isn't to lift people's work but to find useful points of contact. Say hi, appreciate their art, and invite them to help. Expect a lot of rejections though. Artists need to eat, and lately there hasn't been much worry about selling out since nobody's buying =). The best you can do is graciously accept this, ask them a few questions (like would you feel more likely to help if we had a number of other people instead of just you? You know anyone who might be interested?, etc) and if you really like their style, try to keep in touch. Of course the interpersonal ability barrier innate in programmers makes the above process very rare ;)

You should take a look at deviant art. I know of a couple semi-pro (side jobs ya know) that reguarly post work there. It's not just photos though, but there is a rather large userbase.

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/1155650

absolutely not.
But working for *Palladium* is evil.

This is so hot a topic, every nerd should be aware of it.
see this link.
the FAQ is here
also see this post

Even in games people do this... In Half-Life people care a lot about their custom "spray decals" that others see. In another game called SubSpace people take pride in their tiny 12x8 'banners' and in their 'audio taunts'. And on websites like DeviantArt people actually PAY to have their user icons made professionally.

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Actually, most the new KDE icons are made my everaldo, who is a professional artist. It really shows, because the new icons are one of the best icon sets I've ever seen. FWIW, it was ranked as a 'daily deviation' on DeviantArt. One of the internet's largest communities of professional and amateur artists.

Of course, my favorite icons are from KDE 1.x's kfm.

Thats a misleading article.

They don't want you messing around with the functionality of the widgets. You know what? I agree with them.

Esp. since you can run other window managers under Darwin (uh .. right?), you still have choice.

And this article says nothing about them trying to prevent the kind of 'tweaking' most Wintel users use - namely, performance, setup, etc.

I don't have any problems with Apple trying to kill utilities that tweak the UI. There's still choice, and there wasn't in OS9.

As for Jobs saying, "Themes are dead", is he on crack? Or by dead, does he mean, "They're dead, because I killed them on this platform."?

> This all started with Apple's QT 4 player, which completely broke the highly regarded Apple Human Interface Guidelines and was put onto the Interface Hall of Shame just for that. Then Winamp came out, creating one of the first in-app skinnable applications, which is cool, but led everyone to release skinnable apps, such as Windows Media Player, and a lot of similar ones on the *NIX side.

Actually, WinAmp 1.2 (the first to have skinning) came out (April 8, 1998) a while before QuickTime 4 did (preview release: May 1999.) kjofol had app-level skinning in a media player even before this, before the author was hired by Nullsoft.

There was a pretty vibrant Windows skinning community in 1998, mostly because of things like LiteStep.

> I'd rather see more effort here with Moz and other programs to provide this, though with much effort, than to keep on reinventing customization wheels that are inconsistant with the OS's customization.

But many other people like app-level skinning.

But the major difference here is that those that coded for Linux did so with the understanding that it was for the use of all. They coded and devoted their time to developing the system not expecting people to pay for it.

Now, just because the website owner isn't yet selling framed versions of their photos (such as on, say www.deviantart.com, where many, many people post photos and artworks for people to see... however if they choose to charge for a print of it, they can choose to, and get money from it, as they should.

Or, say, just because the tv station isn't yet selling a boxed DVD set of their series, doesn't mean they aren't GOING to. By jumping the gun, and doing these things beforehand, with no permission from the creator of the works, they are effectively stealing from the original creator of the works.

I kinda like your library 'shareware version' book analogy, quite nice... :)

You might be disappointed if you downloaded Debian 2.2 ISO's.
Although extremely stable, they are also full of ancient software.
If you want to have an up to date Debian desktop, I would suggest you download a Debian 3.0 netinstall image.
Also, take the time to get an idea of how apt-get and apt-cache work, as they are the best way to install and manage packages.

Debian 3.0 Installation Manual
Debian 3.0 Release Notes
Debian Reference
APT Howto
Just in case I forget something

Not learning apt-get, or sticking to Debian 2.2, will leave you very disappointed.

BTW, the current version of Suse is fairly good. I haven't used Gentoo yet, but have heard many good things about it recently. Redhat can be good, especially if you spend a small amount of time making it look and run nice. (My current very temporary RedHat 7.3 desktop.

I am by no means a professional photographer, and I tend to grade my pictures by the oooh and ahhh scale but I know exactly what you are looking for.

A digital camera that truly rivals a normal one. The problem is, once you want that you're going to end up with something high-end, maybe even in the $500+ range. Believe me, it is worth it.

The camera(s) I highly recommend are part of the Canon PowerShot G series. The newest member is expensive however has absolutely every feature you mentioned. It uses nice compact flash cards instead of crappy memory sticks or slow CDRs too and even takes 4 megapixel shots. If the G2 is out of your pice range you may be able to pick up a G1 somewhere, as the difference is small (I have a G1). The macro focus on it is truly magnifigant too. If you take a look at my DeviantART page you can see some examples of what I have taken with my trusty old G1.

Can't say to much more without sounding like a totally shameless plug, just I recommend going to a store and checking it out.

This is not intended as flamebait by any means, but does anyone know what sort of browser share Mozilla/Netscape have? I have been following and pushing both browsers for the past year, encouraging others to try them out, but when checking the browser statistics for my website they don't have any entry at all. Right now the breakdown for my site is about 97% Internet Explorer 5+ and 3% Netscape 4, which is a real shame. Does anyone out there have any more promising browser usuage stats?

It is also interesting guaging people response to Mozilla/Netscape on sites other than Slashdot. It seems like there is real anti-Netscape sentiment out there, an example being the response to Netscape 7 at deviantart where there is loads of "Netscape sucks" one liners. I could be wrong on this, but it seems ever since Netscape 4 a lot of people seem unprepared to give Netscape a second chance. Perhaps it is "cool" to hate Netscape because they are owned by AOL, I don't know

Anyway that aside, Mozilla is great is most definitely stable enough for public consumption as the last few releases haven't crashed on me at all. As soon as I get home I'll download RC3.

I've been using LiteStep for a few years and now use it exclusively at work. Even got a few of my colleagues to use it. But don't ask for tech support, go to the community to get your answers.

The problem with LiteStep is that it has a fairly steep learning curve. This has improved with standards for themes (OTS) appearing and a good installer. There are heaps of distros out there but LSDistro and OTS are two of the best. OTS has generally replaced LSDistro these days and most new themes come out as OTS compatible.

Although these installers are in place and themes are more compatible, you still have to be willing to roll up your sleeves and dive into the configuration files to make a theme work the way you want it to. I've found that I generally download a theme and tweak it until I'm happy and then use that theme for ages.

Anyway litestep is one of the best shell replacements out there because:

• you can get the sourcecode and build it yourself
• you can code up new modules to do anything you imagine
• there is a well developed community
• there are many themes available, try deviantArt.
• it's fully customizable
• and you can almost forget you're using windows

Regarding the question about how MS deals with these shells: Well, the simple answer is that they don't. It keeps us off their back :). In fact, many of the well known win32 shell developers work or have worked at Microsoft. Alternative shells work just fine under Windows.

Now, there are actually a ton of shells (see the list) out there for Windows, and most are open source in some way or other. The most popular (and one of the oldest) win32 shells is Litestep, which is GPL'd.

For a somewhat decent overview of shells from a windows user's point of view, check out forum topic on deviantART. Alternative Windows Shells basically just replace the Explorer.exe file as the Windows shell... usually also resulting in the replacement of the well known taskbar, start menu, and desktop. Instead, you can use the tools provided by the shell to build your own interface. Shells are very similar to X desktop environments. They do not replace the Windows like a WM does. For general news and info regarding Windows shells, check out the following sites:

• ShellFront
• shellscape

Desktopian.org also covers Windows and shells news in-depth, along with some *nix related news.

Litestep is the oldest shell still in active development. It is by far the most popular shell (with an estimated 10,000+ users) and the most customizable shell (outside of Graphite). You can create almost whatever interface you want, thanks to the 300+ 3rd party modules for the shell. Litestep also has great support through the LS Mailing List and the IRC channels (#fpn, #ls2k, and #ls_help on irc.openprojects.net). Make sure to check out the following sites for Litestep:

• Graphic Language
• JoeBlade
• Litestep.net
• ShellFront
• LS Documentation
• LS FAQ
• The Module List - Module List with descriptions (a little out of date and incomplete, but better for most people)
• the Litestep Installer - a must to get Litestep installed and configured. Make sure to download 'OTS compatible' themes.

The second most popular replacement shell is geOShell, which is largely a minimalist's shell. It has a GUI configuration for most things. geOShell's main site is geoshellx.com. All information can be found there. They are also supported through the geoshellx.com forums and their IRC channel (#geoshell on irc.openprojects.net).

Most win32 shells out there today are either derived from Litestep or geOShell in some way or other. However, there have been two blackbox 'ports' recently to Windows:

• bluebox
• bb4win

It's impossible for me to explain everything here. However, for any *nix users who need to run Windows as well, these shells offer a great alternative to that drab and boring Explorer desktop. Win32 alternative shells even let you have your X desktop on Windows.

Now, the advantage to Object Desktop (namely DesktopX and objectbar is that it doesn't require that you replace your shell (which is a registry key change in NT and a system.ini file edit in 9x). Configuration is accomplished by a GUI. DesktopX is extremely configurable. Keep in mind that running Object Desktop will use up excessive cpu and/or memory. They can do almost anything, but will also use up resources... unlike most shells.

Hope this helps. Many *nix users are completely unaware of the Windows open-source community and of shells in general. We hope this will eventually change.

i see a huge amount of people complaining about how this is a change for the worse. we did the same thing, by offering a subscription service to remove ads and offer some goodies, and saw the same thing. it did not affect anything, so i highly doubt that there is much worth in putting stock in all those that are complaining.

/. will do just fine with subscriptions, as have most other sites that implemented them correctly.

First of all, I thank you for mentioning Adium. I shall find information about it Elsewhere.

Second, I like your idea of using TOC. Perhaps it could be a fallback protocol if connection fails using the newer protocol?

Third, I point out the fact that Trillian skinning is Awesome.

Isn't this the problem faced by developers who resort to begging users to send money?

Likewise, an art website I frequent has recently opened up a subscription service (ostensibly to pay for bandwidth costs) on top of the basic free membership. As there is no tangible 'punishment' for non-paying members, the only real incentive to shell out the cash. I have no plans to do so myself, and according to this study it is exactly that mentality that kills voluntarily cooperative ventures.

Now, the question in my mind is if Noosphere and flames count as a reward/punishment system? ^_^

http://www.deviantart.com

Think Akamai with peered nodes and intelligent network mapping.

...therefore just because you like it does not mean that i will, and vice versa.

i think the many visitors, the 400+ submissions of digital art a day, and the 40000+ overall pieces of art, submitted by artists themselves within less than one year, at deviantART speaks for itself as to the answer of the question at hand...

"As for AOL, it says it isn't troubled by the software because it doesn't affect outside advertisers. The Instant Messenger box has two advertising spots, and right now they are being used to promote AOL's service. "Since AIM does not have [paid] ads, this is a moot point," says Tricia Primrose, an AOL spokeswoman."

The article is available for free at MSNBC. Also, here's a screenshot from a link at Zeropaid.

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