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It's more like the VIC-TV, a 1983 Commodore CES prototype. Picture at Secret Weapons of Commodore pages:
http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/supervic.html

It's not a service, it's an application, but yeah, installing it without the user's consent is Evil.
You'll find the startup hook for it in HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Run

What's even more interesting is that it runs an exe from %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data. This should be a no-no. On a properly installed system, anything under that folder should be non-executable, and for Google to rely on files there being allowed to execute means they don't even understand Microsoft's guidelines.

One bad, and one evil.

Oh, and one stupid: No gopher support

99.9% of the population don't know what Gopher is, let alone expect it to be on the iPhone

Gopher is a contrived example.

Some of us still use gopher

gopher - replaced by http

While It is on life support (and in a vegetative state), Gopher still lives. I love Gopher.

gopher - alive and well, thank you very much

http://gopher.floodgap.com/overbite/

No way, craigslist is really complicated and has things like colours, and changes underlines when you mouseover links, that distract horribly from the information. My award for sticking with what works goes to gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/

You may be able to find an upgraded copy here:

gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/7/v2/vs

I don't know about that. Yes, there were web crawlers way back in the day. .. ..
They aren't dead. Veronica just left the building.

gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/v2

Apple IIgs and a complete set of acessories, SIGNED BY WOZ!... $41

At the risk of stating the obvious, the first 10000 had Woz's sig silkscreened on them. They're not exactly rare (except maybe by eBay's standards for "rare", which say that something's "rare" if it wasn't on the shelf at the local Wal-Mart five minutes ago).

Firefox even supports it natively. Here's a gopher site you can visit today.

And here's another one. Even The WELL still has its gopher.

Firefox even supports it natively. Here's a gopher site you can visit today.

Here is an interesting site detailing the various Commodore prototypes created as attempts to sustain the business.

Commodore didn't make really good joysticks. My friend bought one of those C64G bundles and by the end of the week, the stick was busted.

I remember one of their "popular" sticks. Triangular handle. Triangular.

(But I hope everyone knows what's the best C64 stick. =)

Gopher still exists, and Firefox has full support for it.

Started with a C= Vic20 then jumped to a C=64... Ran a bbs and ended up shelling out $1200 for a LT. KERNAL (for those who still live with their parents heres the writeup)
http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/ltk/ I actually chucked reading the article.

Floodgap Gopherspace

and

gopher.quux.org

Either you're with bloat in the browser world or you aren't. Which is it?

So I take it then that you're opposed to Firefox's inclusion of FTP and Gopher?

Because I mean, come on, either you're with bloat in the browser world or you aren't. You don't need to access gopher or FTP via a webbrowser, there are command line tools for that. And how often do you really use gopher anyway?

Curse this mozilla featuritis! Just think, if they dropped support for Gopher, they could possibly remove an entire kilobyte of bloat!

Will no one think of the kilobytes??

Of course we used to have that. It's called Gopher...
Reminisce!

He might have had midi. I had a midi cartridge for the C64, together with the SFX sound expander and the full-size 60 key keyboard. In essence, my c64 became a mini Yamaha DX7 with sequencer. If you've never heard of the sound expander, you can see a picture of it here

This php webserver reminds me of HTTPi a webserver written in 100% perl. Neither of which are that hard when you know. However Anders "Pugo" Karlsson wrote a webserver called PS HTTPD in postscript. Now that I found very impressive :)

Even 'back in the day' there was mass storage for Commodore 64s. My father taught computer studies at a local high school, and part of his job was managing a network of--if memory serves--sixty or so Commodore 64s.

The Commodore 9060 and 9090 offered 6.4 and 9.6 MB of storage, respectively. Manual here, for anyone who wants it. Pictures here.

(I suppose you tell your potential audience to access your site via a Gopher gateway. But is it worth the hassle?)

I also have some issues with the gopher protocol as such. You can't just write a page and stick it on your server. You have to follow a lot of strange little rules for integrating it into the menu structure. These complications have a lot to do with gopher's lack of acceptance,

They're also a big reason web browser support is so poor. The only browser that fully supports the protocol is Lynx. Mozilla/Netscape has a half-assed implementation they inherited from Mosaic, which they never seem to have updated. IE used to have the same code, but has since stripped it out. Opera claims to support gopher if you configure it to use a proxy server-- a concept I don't quite understand and lack any inclination to test.

Should browser vendors support Gopher (better)? Perhaps. Put let's do some prioritizing here. There are a lot of things we need to get browser vendors to do. Better support for W3C specs has to be a major focus Support for legacy protocols that a few enthusiasts won't give up on just isn't worth anybody's energy.

I was testing out mozilla's gopher:// handler. It actually works :)

Actually, no it doesn't - try comparing this gopher link with this html proxied version - not the same, I think you'll agree.

I was testing out mozilla's gopher:// handler. It actually works :)

Actually, no it doesn't - try comparing this gopher link with this html proxied version - not the same, I think you'll agree.

I've never used gopher myself (other than for seeing what it looked like), but you may all want to check out Floodgap Gopher-HTTP Proxy

And yes, you do need a proxy, as just about all modern browsers (yes, even Mozilla) don't render gopher correctly - compare your browser with what it should look like.

And naturally, the proxy links to lots of still-existent gopherspaces, for all you wondering if there are any still out there...

I've never used gopher myself (other than for seeing what it looked like), but you may all want to check out Floodgap Gopher-HTTP Proxy

And yes, you do need a proxy, as just about all modern browsers (yes, even Mozilla) don't render gopher correctly - compare your browser with what it should look like.

And naturally, the proxy links to lots of still-existent gopherspaces, for all you wondering if there are any still out there...

I've never used gopher myself (other than for seeing what it looked like), but you may all want to check out Floodgap Gopher-HTTP Proxy

And yes, you do need a proxy, as just about all modern browsers (yes, even Mozilla) don't render gopher correctly - compare your browser with what it should look like.

And naturally, the proxy links to lots of still-existent gopherspaces, for all you wondering if there are any still out there...

The first computer I actually had in my house was a Tomy Tutor The game "Traffic Jam" and a port of "Jungler" kept me entertained for many hours of my young life =p

Let me know when they've managed to fit Emacs in there too.

Sorry, no Emacs yet. Will vi do?

A 10Mb HD on a C64 in 1984?

Yup.

The Commodore 9090 was a 9MB HD made for the PET line of computers (which were discontinued in the early 80's). It was compatable with the C64, just like SFD 1001.

It does, doesn't it? The C64 was announced January 1982, so year is the C64's 20th birthday. Happy birthday, C64.

Uh, no? Taken from Secret Weapons of Commodore:

"Unlike the other custom chips which were christened with women's monikers, the Agnus chip is not a corruption of the name Agnes (as I had previously thought), but rather, according to Jim Williams, Jay Miner named it Agnus from the Latin expression agnus dei ('lamb of God')."

Also check out the prototype pic of the Agnus and Daphne - it clearly says 'Agnus', meaning that it was that way from the beginning. I know of no 'Agnes' to have ever existed in the Amiga.

Do you mean a B256?

(Yes, it says 700, but the naming conventions were odd. Here's a relative.

Check out the rest of the SWoC site; CBM's internal design bureau was quite interesting, as they used their own custom chips (SID and VIC, followed by the acquired Amiga chipset) to produce a wild array of machines. Unfortunately, they built a few too many on the business front in those early years, with too many incompatibilities to really take on Apple or IBM. You still occasionally see a B128 or similar running as a terminal to some ancient mini setup.

Kind of a shame they didn't push the Amiga 3000UX harder, or didn't keep the 900 when they acquired the Amiga (which was meant to have had a slightly more *NIXalike OS at launch)...

Do you mean a B256?

(Yes, it says 700, but the naming conventions were odd. Here's a relative.

Check out the rest of the SWoC site; CBM's internal design bureau was quite interesting, as they used their own custom chips (SID and VIC, followed by the acquired Amiga chipset) to produce a wild array of machines. Unfortunately, they built a few too many on the business front in those early years, with too many incompatibilities to really take on Apple or IBM. You still occasionally see a B128 or similar running as a terminal to some ancient mini setup.

Kind of a shame they didn't push the Amiga 3000UX harder, or didn't keep the 900 when they acquired the Amiga (which was meant to have had a slightly more *NIXalike OS at launch)...

Do you mean a B256?

(Yes, it says 700, but the naming conventions were odd. Here's a relative.

Check out the rest of the SWoC site; CBM's internal design bureau was quite interesting, as they used their own custom chips (SID and VIC, followed by the acquired Amiga chipset) to produce a wild array of machines. Unfortunately, they built a few too many on the business front in those early years, with too many incompatibilities to really take on Apple or IBM. You still occasionally see a B128 or similar running as a terminal to some ancient mini setup.

Kind of a shame they didn't push the Amiga 3000UX harder, or didn't keep the 900 when they acquired the Amiga (which was meant to have had a slightly more *NIXalike OS at launch)...

Do you mean a B256?

(Yes, it says 700, but the naming conventions were odd. Here's a relative.

Check out the rest of the SWoC site; CBM's internal design bureau was quite interesting, as they used their own custom chips (SID and VIC, followed by the acquired Amiga chipset) to produce a wild array of machines. Unfortunately, they built a few too many on the business front in those early years, with too many incompatibilities to really take on Apple or IBM. You still occasionally see a B128 or similar running as a terminal to some ancient mini setup.

Kind of a shame they didn't push the Amiga 3000UX harder, or didn't keep the 900 when they acquired the Amiga (which was meant to have had a slightly more *NIXalike OS at launch)...

IMHO Perl will be quite useful long after the web is as obsolete as Gopher.

Hey, Perl's good for gopher, too.

It seems that they will be attempting to show off products with embedded XP technology, and various server products.

I remember Archie. Sadly missed.

Anyone remember veronica?

Anyone here ever had or have a SuperPet? Fortran, Basic, APL, Cobol and Pascal all in ROM? Incredibly cool at the time as otherwise you needed a mainframe to run such software. Does anyone know if an emulator exists?

Mozilla doesn't do gopher very well-- for example, it fails to show information tags (a big nuisance): try publication or floodgap in Moz and another browser and see the difference.

I'm really glad to see that gopher is alive and kicking. Not only that, but you can still search gopherspace using Veronica!

Personally, I think it's much better than the web.

> use the supplied hardware on the 800 (sort of like the Amiga's copper).

Well ... THERE is a common Designer link between the Atari - Amiga -
Epex(?) Handy (Atari Lynx) to the 3DO!

For CBM history ...

Killer Unix

and ...
CBM history

John (C-128D, SX-64, A600HD, A1200HD, A2000HD, and CD32 owner)

> use the supplied hardware on the 800 (sort of like the Amiga's copper).

Well ... THERE is a common Designer link between the Atari - Amiga -
Epex(?) Handy (Atari Lynx) to the 3DO!

For CBM history ...

Killer Unix

and ...
CBM history

John (C-128D, SX-64, A600HD, A1200HD, A2000HD, and CD32 owner)