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But somehow, the cops get it wrong again and again, with the result that they shoot innocent people again and again. Why are the cops held to a lower standard than the rest of us, when they have such a higher level of power and authority? That's ass-backwards.

As the years pass and crime rates continue to drop, the percentage of people who remember ever having a positive interaction with police will dwindle to a very few. Couple this with the fact that everyone carries a video camera with them at all times, plus all the other cameras everywhere, to catch every police misdeed and publish it to the world instantly.

These trends should eventually lead voters to enact reforms — maybe in the late 2020s or early 2030s.

You can see it starting already. (I won't take the Portland extremists' side in this, but I won't take the police side either. If police refuse to reform themselves then they should be disbanded and replaced with a new force organized to actually protect and serve the people.)

Alex Jones is a distraction from the far more pervasive censorship by Twitter. The real story is that Twitter was caught mass shadowbanning those on the right, to the point that Republican senators got caught up in it.

And now right before CEO Dorsey is supposed to testify before congress, magically the mass shadowbanning disappears.

And before you knee-jerk reflexively dismiss Breitbart, try attacking the argument, not the site.

Antifa has a long history of using violence to achieve their goals.

Seems that those sources "close to Assange" are getting it wrong. They should be looking at Spain.

Is this finally the end for Julian Assange?

Ecuador has a very close relationship with Spain in matters of both trade and diplomacy and wants to remain in their good graces. Moreno isn’t quite as fearful of ticking off the governments of the United States or Great Britain as he would be of getting under the skin of Madrid. But he’s also said to be more amenable to working with western governments than his predecessor. After Assange started publicly criticizing Spain’s handling of the Catalan independence movement, he went from being an inconvenience to a serious diplomatic problem.

To all those who say America isn't going to extradite him from the "Sweden Trap", why are they "piling on the pressure"?

It seems it isn't the US, but Spain

Ecuador has a very close relationship with Spain in matters of both trade and diplomacy and wants to remain in their good graces. Moreno isn’t quite as fearful of ticking off the governments of the United States or Great Britain as he would be of getting under the skin of Madrid. But he’s also said to be more amenable to working with western governments than his predecessor. After Assange started publicly criticizing Spain’s handling of the Catalan independence movement, he went from being an inconvenience to a serious diplomatic problem.

You've left out some of the real charms of the current era.

Profs claim scientific objectivity reinforces 'whiteness'
Professor Claims Math, Algebra And Geometry Promote ‘White Privilege’
The Appalling Protests at Evergreen State College
All-women's college asks profs not to call students 'women'
Professor notes men are taller than women on average, SJWs storm out angrily
Americans who practice yoga 'contribute to white supremacy', claims Michigan State University professor
Conservatives, Libertarians Are ‘on the Autistic Spectrum,’ Says Duke Professor
Victimhood Culture Only Getting Worse, Professor Warns
Professor: Small Chairs in Preschools Are Sexist, ‘Problematic,’ and ‘Disempowering’
Prof creates checklist for detecting white supremacy

Believing in meritocracy, promoting a "collegial" environment, and even deciding “to stay out of all of this ‘identity politics’” are all forms of tacit white supremacy, she claims.

She Carried A Garrotte!

I blogged yesterday about a mob trying to shut down Jordan B. Peterson and others at Queens University in Kingston, Ontario, and wondered aloud, “Where are there police?!” Well, turns out one of the SJWs was arrested after breaking the glass . .

Officials say officers searched her backpack and found a weapon — a metal wire with handles commonly known as a garrotte.”

I could go on, there are so many stones unturned.

Seems like that story is lacking some important context; something I just read about earlier (and not because of the tweet) is that Amazon gets about $1.46 per box in subsides due to first class mail costs.

Amazon is making a LOT of money, why does the federal government need to be giving them what amounts to a huge break on shipping? As a Prime member I'm sure that would raise my rates but I don't think everyone in the U.S. should be paying for my quicker shipping.

"I also hope you like the taste of cat'S AS food." FTFY https://hotair.com/archives/20...

Why complain about Bashar al Assad when that psycho kid next door is torching squirrels? Because greater degrees of evil are more notable. Media matters hasn't done anything anywhere near as dishonest, and AFAIK has not destroyed any institutions with manipulated evidence. The worst I could find is this:

https://hotair.com/archives/20...

You'll get a load of posts telling you don't understand the principle of 'Net Neutrality'. When in fact you understand it just fine, you just don't agree with it. Or, more accurately, you don't think that 'Net Neutrality' goes far enough because it still allows Facebook, Twitter and Youtube to censor its users and only prevents Facebook's ISP from forcing people to pay more to access FB or to charge FB more to send its packets.

And the thing is that former case is happening but the later case seems to be purely theoretical. And before anyone mentions MEO in Portugal, the situation is nuanced.

https://hotair.com/archives/20...

I reached out to Meo on what exactly their SmartNet offering entailed. Here's their response (emphasis original):

"MEO complies with the European regulation on net neutrality and there is no distortion of the market caused by its commercial offers. Access and use of any application or service on the Internet is permitted by all MEO Internet access offers, and it is not necessary to adhere to specific packages in order to enjoy certain applications.

The SmartNet offerings correspond only to additional traffic ceilings for certain thematic sets of applications that are no more than the reflection of Portuguese consumer preferences. These offers are beneficial to consumers since it allows them to further customize the packages according to their consumption profiles. MEO is proud to have been a pioneer in launching this type of offer in Portugal, with multiple examples of similar offerings in other countries such as Spain, Germany and Belgium."

So Khanna either doesn't understand Meo's SmartNet is an extra service which could save customers more money, or didn't bother trying to figure out what it meant to serve his own purposes. It should also be pointed out these offerings have nothing to do with Internet access from a computer, but from a mobile phone or tablet. Their top data plan is 30GB. AT&T starts data throttling at 21GB, for what it's worth, even with their "unlimited" data. Verizon has their own version of data throttling, as does Sprint. These are with net neutrality, for the record.

Or look here

http://www.telecomsense.com/20...

The actual facts reveal that mobile operators appear to be competing to give consumers more, not less, options. And, of course, a quick perusal of the actual service offerings available to consumers confirms that this is exactly what is happening in Portugal. Three facilities-based providers currently operate in Portugal (a country of 10 million people): MEO (a play on "meu" or "mine"), Vodafone, and NOS (a play on "nos" or "us/we").

MEO offers 4 basic mobile plans with some amount of "unlimited" calling, SMS, and/or data use, ranging from the cheapest (about $13/month) to the most expensive ($57/month). The cheapest plan (with voice/SMS) comes with 500mbs of mobile internet service and the most expensive plan offers 30gbs--with which the consumer can use to access the whole internet. But, if a customer only wants mobile internet service, she has the option to purchase 10gbs of service (to the "whole" internet) for about $18.00/month (offer here).

MEO also offers consumers--with any mobile internet plan--the ability to get "SmartNet" packages with an additional 10gbs of the applications they use most (e.g., video or social networks) for an additional €4.99 ($5.80)/month. In other words, the "tiered" graphic that "scary news" articles are using to show the "cable" apocalypse was finally upon us, is in fact merely a bunch of mini "binging" packages (similar to T-Mobile's popular "binge on" promotion).

What about the other providers? Although none of the other operators offers anything like the "SmartNet" mini-bin

It's not a false equivalency. It's entirely accurate. Both extremes is full of violent insurgents who are intent on overthrowing - and replacing - the government. And the left is further along in the fascist insurgent playbook, as well as better organized and better financed.

People who threaten - and use - violence against reporters filming their rioting - and their children - are a direct threat to democracy, and every bit as dangerous as neo-nazis. The left doesn't want to admit this, but then, a lot of them seem to be perfectly OK with violence as long as it's for a cause they believe in.

Antifa assaults multiple journalists in Charlottsville

You have no clue.

California Democrats to far-left single payer advocates: Stop bullying and threatening us!

No way to pay for it.

The report does not claim that voting machines were hacked, a once-popular post-election theory from Democrats, nor does it state whether the information pertaining to the voting systems could be used to hack those systems.

As opined by Matt Vespa> , "still, 55 percent of Democrats think that Russia messed with the vote totals to get Trump elected. The Left has gone insane. Like the rest of the Russian collusion drama, there is no evidence that vote tallies were tampered with by a foreign intelligence service."

UK already has hate speech laws, which must've been fine with you. And they are not "obsolete", but actively prosecuted.

Which was so cool with the "anti Tories", their Illiberal American brethren would love such laws to come to the land of the First Amendment — to the annoyance of the earlier generation of Illiberals, flabbergasted at what their rhetoric lead to.

While more people find Trump credible than the old-school media, it still less than half the people who find him credible.

They don't.

Sorry, but they don't.

The destruction of credibility of the old-school media was self-inflicted - Trump merely comments on the obvious fact

You mean Trump tries to distract us from the General Sherman stuck in his eye. When your best excuse for your lies is that you don't know what you're saying, you are in serious trouble.

Have you never been directly involved in something that was reported by a journalist?

Dude, one of the first things you learn, whether a police investigator, journalist, or divorce counselor, is that a dozen people can have twenty different stories about the same event.

I'll see your politicalcompass.org and raise you:
http://hotair.com/archives/201...
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundi...
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfro...
http://insider.foxnews.com/201...
http://archive.mrc.org/biasbas...

Hillary did not do one the entire time she ran.

She gave one on September 8, 2016. Though I'm not sure if we should believe this fake news site. It's up to you.

http://hotair.com/archives/201...

If "seizure-inducing" speech is prosecutable now, we better all become "seizure-inducing haters", before the First Amendment is dead and buried.

They could not quite get at it with "hate speech" bans, they are attacking it with "seizures" now...

Maybe read the article...

If "seizure-inducing" speech is prosecutable now, we better all become "seizure-inducing haters", before the First Amendment is dead and buried.

They could not quite get at it with "hate speech" bans, they are attacking it with "seizures" now...

Most Slashdotters may not know about the minute details of Russia's propaganda-war on Ukraine, but it had salvos like "When Ukrainians enter cities, they crucify little children".

Trump administration could seek to wipe government websites

Trump could seek to rape every woman too, should these "scientists" not attempt to hide their wives and daughters instead of some data?

Some worry the information could only be retrieved with a taxing Freedom of Information Act request.

OMG! Now we are learning, FoIA-requests are undully taxing...

Though I admit to have partaken of some relish last month, which was due not only to the justifiable joy of my vindicating victory, but also from the harder to justify glee over your spectacular loss, it is becoming kinda tedious... Please, apply the necessary ointments to wherever it still feels sore and stop making yourself an object of continuing mockery. I'm not especially proud of the parts of my personality, that still savors ridiculing your kind...

See - it's not that you criticize, it's having a good enough reason to criticize.

All criticism of Obama was racist, get it? And, for good measure, racism-themed insults were imagined where there weren't any... Here is one good collection. There is absolutely no doubt, that, had Hillary Clinton won, the same verbiage would've been recycled with the word "racism" replaced by the word "sexism". Her side already blames sexism for the loss — we would've had 8 more years of it being scandalous to criticize the President.

I for one welcome the comeback of the dissent is patriotic notion...

it was much more difficult 30 years ago

This smacks of the "exclusivity of our times" — a common misconception, that the very peak of history is somehow unprecedented. The ancients had it too... "Things aren't, how they used to be — and they never were."

To your point, even if everything shuts you up online, you'll still have the same options you had 30 years ago. And back then too, buying an ad in a newspaper was subject to the paper's policies and so on.

A private company is (and ought to remain) entitled to doing, what they fooking please — competition among them being a better guardian against abuses, than any kind of government regulator.

But:

• The rest of us should be pointing out a company's hypocrisy to its management, PR flacks, and fanboys;
• We ought to use this as a cautionary example, of why "hate speech" must never become illegal;
• SJWs are assholes — especially those among them, who wish to criminalize "hate speech".

"...the effect COMPLETELY DISAPPEARS once you control for race and education levels."

See Nate Silver's tweet's here.

Voter fraud is extremely rare, and the courts are enforcing federal law that makes sure people like you can't use it for cover to disenfranchise minorities.

Election fraud is a continuing problem across the US.

And you seem to have the issue of disenfranchisement backwards:

Victims of Voter Fraud: Poor and Disadvantaged are Most Likely to Have Their Vote Stolen

The Virginia scandal comes close on the heels of the voter fraud trials in upstate New York, where Democratic county elections officers and city councilmen from the town of Troy stand trial for absentee-ballot fraud. Four Democrats have already pleaded guilty in a case that highlights who the real victims of election fraud usually are: the poor, minorities, the sick, the old, and other vulnerable members of society.

Democratic Committeeman Anthony DeFiglio pleaded guilty to falsifying business records in the case, and he told investigators that "The people who are targeted [in voter fraud cases] live in low-income housing and there is a sense that they are a lot less likely to ask any questions." Even more disturbing was his admission that "What appears as a huge conspiracy to nonpolitical persons is really a normal political tactic."4

Another Troy Committeeman, Anthony Renna, admitted to forging absentee ballot applications and explained that handing in forged ballots and fake votes ensures that "ballots are voted correctly."

"I knew that the actual voters had not voted the ballots or signed the envelopes, but that did not concern me. I am not the ballot police," Renna told police. "I have been present when 'ballots were voted correctly' by party operatives."5 "Voted correctly" is fraud-speak for a forged application or ballot and it has nothing to do with the intentions of the lawful voter and everything to do with the interests of criminals who flagrantly violate election laws.

And who were the victims of this crime against the public? According to the Times Union, those disenfranchised Troy voters who had their ballots voted for them "correctly" included "public housing residents, college students, the semi-literate, a deaf man, the chronically ill and non-English speakers."6

Lest we think that this sort of thing only happens on the east coast, we should remember the illegal ballots cast by an estimated 5,000 non-citizens in Colorado's elections in 2010. Colorado's Secretary of State reported that a state study found nearly 12,000 people registered to vote in Colorado who were not citizens and were therefore not legally eligible to vote. Of those, the state believes that perhaps as many as 5,000 voted in the 2010 general election.7

People in the US have a constitutional right to travel, but you can't board an aircraft and even buses without an ID. You can't enter many government buildings without and ID. You can't open a bank account or cash a check of any real size without an ID. You may not be able to buy alcohol without an ID. What are the activists doing there? Nothing. Why do you think they only care about voting? Here's a hint:

Project Veritas, part two: Dem activists discuss best practices in committing voter fraud without getting caught
"Rigging Elections For 50 Years" - Massive Voter Fraud Exposed By Project Veritas Part 2

The US has had the twin ravages of Obamacare and Senator Al Franken inflicted upon it due to election fraud.

Rampant Voter Fraud A

What exactly is a cybercrisis? A ddos on a major dns server? Or is it a hack of the DOD? Or is it a hack of the DoJ and DHS?

At this point, nothing short of poisoning a water supply would be called a 'crisis.' It would be called, "been there, done that."

He's got a point.

I'd actually like to see both of them stand trial for this

even as a joke this is wholly unpresidential. So to sum it up, he clearly wasn't joking and even under this absurd excuse concocted two days after the fact Trump still loses points with this one, As simple as that.

Hillary Clinton committed multiple felonies. Trump made a joke you don't like.

Yea right, vote Clinton I guess then.

P.S. The felonies she committed didn't require intent, but she is one of the few people for whom the Federal government will just make up reasons to not indict. "She didn't intend any harm" is no defense against 18 U.S.C. section 793(f).

P.P.S. Trump is kind of a clown. Hillary Clinton is a smart person who is evil and corrupt. I'll vote for a clown over a known corrupt person any day. I won't be thrilled about it but it will be a cold day in Hell before I vote for someone who should be in prison.

...

but hey, they got 1 transgendered bathroom so i guess thats good right?

Yep, all they did was paper over ONE Women's bathroom sign.

DNC’s ‘All-Gender’ Bathroom A Mere Publicity Stunt. Here’s Proof.

"All of the other bathrooms in the arena appear to be more traditional, split by the sexes. Is it a coincidence that the all-gender restroom is right by the press booth?" asks Rantz.

The great transgender coverup at the DNC

FBI Director Comey said that there was no evidence of any guilty intent, so "no reasonable prosecutor" would file charges. So why were charges filed against Kristian Saucier, who unwisely took photos of a classified area on a nuclear submarine? No intent was proven or needed to file charges against him; he had photos of classified stuff on his phone, charges filed.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/06/saucier-attorney-on-hillary-non-indictment-clearly-a-double-standard/

I am disturbed that there is clearly one standard for ordinary people, and another standard for Hillary Clinton. I sincerely hope that Mr. Saucier appeals his verdict on the grounds that the FBI Director said "no reasonable prosecutor" should have filed the charges, and he clearly didn't get equal protection under the law as Hillary Clinton got.

Try this out for size:

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/14/reminder-marine-at-risk-of-court-martial-over-e-mailing-classified-document-to-warn-against-massacre/

The reality behind this socialist produced "mocumentary" tells a much different story! In Detroit the Police Chief with massive government cutbacks advised local citizens to arm themselves! http://hotair.com/archives/201...

It really bothers these Yes Men that the result of citizens arming themselves has been steep declines in Detroit crime! From the article:

        >>Detroit has experienced 37 percent fewer robberies in 2014 than during the same period last year, 22 percent fewer break-ins of businesses and homes, and 30 percent fewer carjackings. Craig attributed the drop to better police work and criminals being reluctant to prey on citizens who may be carrying guns.

        “Criminals are getting the message that good Detroiters are armed and will use that weapon,” said Craig, who has repeatedly said he believes armed citizens deter crime. “I don’t want to take away from the good work our investigators are doing, but I think part of the drop in crime, and robberies in particular, is because criminals are thinking twice that citizens could be armed.

        “I can’t say what specific percentage is caused by this, but there’s no question in my mind it has had an effect,” Craig said. Compare Detroit's scenario to Chicago's: Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the U.S. and the highest gun homicide rate! Murder citie's crime rates are off the charts, because citizens can't defend themselves, while the criminals have all the guns.

These "Yes Men" are so far from reality, it makes their little joke video much funnier, as they have no idea what they are lampooning!

If the police work is good enough and they take down gangs that systematically break and enter into homes and businesses then just breaking one or two of the gangs would be enough to account for the drop in break and enters. Same goes with carjackings, criminals are not car jacking to joy ride, they are car jacking to resell the vehicles on the black market. Shutdown the chop shops and the criminals cannot pass off the vehicles so they stop car jacking. Robberies could even be attributed to the same thing. Without actual numbers, Craig's attribution to armed citizens could just be a result of his bias towards wanting everyone to be armed to prevent crimes...

The reality behind this socialist produced "mocumentary" tells a much different story! In Detroit the Police Chief with massive government cutbacks advised local citizens to arm themselves! http://hotair.com/archives/201... It really bothers these Yes Men that the result of citizens arming themselves has been steep declines in Detroit crime! From the article: >>Detroit has experienced 37 percent fewer robberies in 2014 than during the same period last year, 22 percent fewer break-ins of businesses and homes, and 30 percent fewer carjackings. Craig attributed the drop to better police work and criminals being reluctant to prey on citizens who may be carrying guns. “Criminals are getting the message that good Detroiters are armed and will use that weapon,” said Craig, who has repeatedly said he believes armed citizens deter crime. “I don’t want to take away from the good work our investigators are doing, but I think part of the drop in crime, and robberies in particular, is because criminals are thinking twice that citizens could be armed. “I can’t say what specific percentage is caused by this, but there’s no question in my mind it has had an effect,” Craig said. Compare Detroit's scenario to Chicago's: Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the U.S. and the highest gun homicide rate! Murder citie's crime rates are off the charts, because citizens can't defend themselves, while the criminals have all the guns. These "Yes Men" are so far from reality, it makes their little joke video much funnier, as they have no idea what they are lampooning!

What if I told you you're intentionally missing the point...or perhaps just too stupid to understand it?

You've already been bitch-slapped four or five times over your stupid attempt to say 8" floppies are inherently insecure in your attempt to distract from the fact that Crooked Hillary! is a lying, unethical sociopath who goes after the women her husband very well may have raped with "Nuts and Sluts" shaming attacks.

I don't think you're intentionally missing the point - you're too fucking stupid to even know you're stupid.

Good for you, moron.

And why don't you come up with a Crooked HIllary! accomplishment? Just ONE - and you can't use "Married Bill Clinton".

Oh, yeah, it has to be a positive accomplishment.

Stacking the Democratic Party primaries and debates to horse fuck Bernie Sanders doesn't count. Besides, Crooked Hillary! doesn't have the skills to do that - that was Bill, and you fucking know it.

Illegally setting up a private email server and then actively directing her underlings to send classified data to it after removing the classification markings doesn't count:

If they can't, turn into non-paper with no identifying heading and send insecure - hrod17@clintonemail.com.

Go read 18 USC 793. Crooked Hillary! committed a felony with that email.

GFY

Addendum: here's a link to H's side of the "headers removed" saga:

http://hotair.com/archives/201...

Those overseas students now face being deported from the United States for buying visas

One would think, the government's priorities would be to block the poor foreigners entering the country illegally and most immediately becoming a public burden. Only after we stop importing poverty, would the borders-enforcers turn on to people, who express their love for the United States without asking taxpayers for financial assistance.

Surely, both groups are breaking the law and ought to be prosecuted, but, if you must exercise prosecutorial discretion, wouldn't you start with those, who cause the most damage? The current Administration's priorities are exactly the opposite, for some reason...

Which is quite surprising, because prosecuting these immigrants — who had the advantage of geography in coming over here — would not require the elaborate entrapment schemes like setting up fake universities — the Administration already knows many of them, and even argues in court, it ought to be allowed to let them partake in Social Security and other "earned benefits" programs!

It is almost as if the plan is to allow them all to stay — despite going through the glacially slow motions of "deferred actions" — and, while staying, vote for the party in power, huh?

The email was talking points and not everything sent securely is actually classified. Try again

Ummmm, YOU "try again"

Aide: They say they've had issues sending secure fax. They're working on it.

Hillary: If they can't, turn into nonpaper with no identifying heading and send insecure

Again: TURN INTO NONPAPER WITH NO IDENTIFYING HEADING AND SEND INSECURE.

HILLARY!'S own words direct an aide to strip off the headers to a secure fax and send it insecure, you sycophantic piece of shit.

This is a sympathetic article designed to sow confusion about this stuff. The article made the true but irrelevant statement that of a recent batch of emails not many were classified and those not Top Secret; it repeated Hillary Clinton's assertion that nothing she sent or received was marked classified, without discussing what is questionable about that assertion; it didn't mention how many Top Secret emails were found, didn't mention the satellite data or the discussion of the names of spies, and didn't mention that about 7% of all the emails were classified at some level. It also didn't mention that the State Department offered a Blackberry and Huma Abedin said that idea "doesn't make a whole lot of sense." But the article did spend several paragraphs talking about how well she is doing in the primaries.

Problems with Hillary Clinton's claims that no material was marked classified:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/28/1416309/-Hillary-Clinton-s-Felony-The-federal-laws-violated-by-the-private-server
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/02/09/judicial-watch-hillary-e-mailed-classified-info-to-get-printout-without-any-identifiers/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-server-classified-ig-report/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-on-her-private-server-wrote-104-emails-the-government-says-are-classified/2016/03/05/11e2ee06-dbd6-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html

Names of spies discussed in insecure email, lives probably lost:
http://observer.com/2016/02/breaking-hillary-clinton-put-spies-lives-at-risk/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3413033/Hillary-s-emails-contained-classified-information-HUMAN-SPYING-State-Department-says-won-t-meet-deadline-publish-emails.html

Satellite data discussed in emails:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3196774/Hillary-s-emails-contained-secret-CIA-intelligence-satellite-info-panic-hits-Democrats-campaign-issues-4-000-word-explanation-s-innocent.html

7% of emails classified... 2079 out of about 30,000:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/02/new-email-release-brings-final-total-of-classified-clinton-emails-to-2079.php

"doesn't make a whole lot of sense":
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/18/state-to-huma-in-2011-your-boss-better-get-an-official-e-mail-account/

P.S. So Hillary Clinton wanted a mobile device that could be used for secure communications, and was told "nope, that's not secure, you can visit the SCIF just like everyone else has to do." So naturally she just used her own insecure server to send and receive classified information, so she could use her mobile device. Great.

If President Obama doesn't pardon Hillary Clinton, she will have problems fr

This is a sympathetic article designed to sow confusion about this stuff. The article made the true but irrelevant statement that of a recent batch of emails not many were classified and those not Top Secret; it repeated Hillary Clinton's assertion that nothing she sent or received was marked classified, without discussing what is questionable about that assertion; it didn't mention how many Top Secret emails were found, didn't mention the satellite data or the discussion of the names of spies, and didn't mention that about 7% of all the emails were classified at some level. It also didn't mention that the State Department offered a Blackberry and Huma Abedin said that idea "doesn't make a whole lot of sense." But the article did spend several paragraphs talking about how well she is doing in the primaries.

Problems with Hillary Clinton's claims that no material was marked classified:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/28/1416309/-Hillary-Clinton-s-Felony-The-federal-laws-violated-by-the-private-server
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/02/09/judicial-watch-hillary-e-mailed-classified-info-to-get-printout-without-any-identifiers/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-server-classified-ig-report/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-on-her-private-server-wrote-104-emails-the-government-says-are-classified/2016/03/05/11e2ee06-dbd6-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html

Names of spies discussed in insecure email, lives probably lost:
http://observer.com/2016/02/breaking-hillary-clinton-put-spies-lives-at-risk/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3413033/Hillary-s-emails-contained-classified-information-HUMAN-SPYING-State-Department-says-won-t-meet-deadline-publish-emails.html

Satellite data discussed in emails:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3196774/Hillary-s-emails-contained-secret-CIA-intelligence-satellite-info-panic-hits-Democrats-campaign-issues-4-000-word-explanation-s-innocent.html

7% of emails classified... 2079 out of about 30,000:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/02/new-email-release-brings-final-total-of-classified-clinton-emails-to-2079.php

"doesn't make a whole lot of sense":
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/18/state-to-huma-in-2011-your-boss-better-get-an-official-e-mail-account/

P.S. So Hillary Clinton wanted a mobile device that could be used for secure communications, and was told "nope, that's not secure, you can visit the SCIF just like everyone else has to do." So naturally she just used her own insecure server to send and receive classified information, so she could use her mobile device. Great.

If President Obama doesn't pardon Hillary Clinton, she will have problems fr

Here is Hillary's response to the "header" incident.

In short, she says her experienced colleague, Jake Sullivan, knew what she actually meant such that her instructions were short-hand shop-talk not to be taken verbatim.

Whether that's true to not is probably part of the investigation.

Bullshit alarm!
Bullshit alarm!

We have here a case of utter bullshit being spouted!

No, the information was HUMINT, it was classified at the source and had the classification markings removed. HUMINT is always classified top secret as exposing it would expose the source, who would be arrested or killed for revealing the information.

http://hotair.com/archives/201...

Trying to claim that these emails were retroactively classified shows your lack of knowledge of how the system works.

Except that she explicitly instructed her staff to wipe the classified markings off and then send through nonsecure channels. But other than requesting a wiping of markings which is in clear violation of he law, and requesting to receive classified data in a nonsecure way also in violation of the law, she's like totally innocent!

Here you go. Links to the actual scanned PDFs themselves, with references to the Dept. of State case number. Hillary asked for classified information to be unmarked and sent over nonsecure e-mail.

According to Hillary's own emails, she was having classified information sent to her, stripped of any markings and then sent over a nonsecure channel. That's what happened per the records released from the State Department. Unless you contend that Hillary just put that in there as a troll for the future?

Well, maybe they weren't marked classified because she directed people to remove the markings and send them on a non-secure e-mail server.

Here you go. Pretty cut-and-dried illegal action there, requesting that the classified mark be removed and send it non-securely. For anyone else, that's not just a firing offense, but one that will get you prosecuted and probably spending time in prison.

They have emails from her telling people to take classification markings off.

Hold on, Tex, she said in an interview that's simply short-hand for cleaning it up for non-classified release, such as removing the classified parts and rephrasing. She said the office worker she sent it to knew what she really (fully) meant because he had done it many times before.

http://hotair.com/archives/201...

If all my internal emails were interpreted by the public/press verbatim, I'd probably be on trial also.

Think about your own internal work emails being read and interpreted by bloggers, pundits, and trolls.

I don't know if her claim is true yet, but until that's determined from the investigation, it should be "innocent until proven guilty".

Further, note that if she had used the "regular" office server instead of her home server, the classified/problematic emails would probably still end up on a server NOT designed for classified materials. The risk/breach would still exist. (There was a separate transmission system for classified stuff, but it wasn't email as we know it.)

The regular office server was no more special or vetted than her home server. Pundits keep implying it is.

I'm not defending her actions, only saying many are jumping to conclusions prematurely. Using a home server is probably not illegal (although the laws are subject to interpretation*), just poor judgement, which she admitted to. Members of the other party made similar errors of judgement.

* Wealthy people are more likely to afford top lawyers who can successfully argue their side of such vague laws, and in that sense, her "privilege" may indeed just get her out of it. But that's life in an unequal society. OJ would probably lose if he were poor.

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Not sure which source you are going to come back and say "that source is too biased", so I included 4 you can find more even the NYT if you want to bother looking. Its not even debatable at this point, its pretty much known fact that Clinton took bribes while Secretary of State, between $150M and $300M depending on the source. The one that is getting her in trouble is foreign donations (which she lied about multiple times before telling the truth), specifically Abu Dhabi that got a BIG favour for giving her half a million, and I think that is the one the FBI is investigating. You would think Clinton supporters would already know this about her. She even got in trouble with the IRS for not reporting the bribes as income and had to redo her taxes after she got caught.

You're also assuming that she did anything really wrong with her email server. That's being investigated currently, and I'm withholding judgment until I know some of the facts. Obviously some of that information should not have been on that server, but beyond that things get murky.

Here' the thing. I already know some of the facts.

1) The server created a large security breach even if it never held classified information. While probably not a criminal act, it does right there show poor judgment.
2) Using her own private server instead of a government one has already allowed her to evade FOIA requests. It also hid her emails from the rest of the Obama administration. And if it can be shown that she constructed this email server in part to evade FOIA requests, then that is a felony.
3) There was plenty of classified information being passed on her server including stuff that was originally marked as classified (BTW, it doesn't have to be marked as classified to be classified). It's a felony to knowingly move classified information onto systems which are not approved for storage or distribution of such information.
4) We have an email where Clinton instructs an aide to strip classified headers off of a document before emailing it. That is a felony as well.

This stuff is "murky" only because you aren't paying attention. As a final observation, the FBI conducts the investigation, but it is Obama's decision whether to prosecute or not.

She's been accused of multiple felonies by the right wing noise machine. I'll wait to see if anything comes of it.

Here, she's actually done multiple felonies. For example, she instructed an aide to strip classified headers off of documents before emailing them.

If they can't, turn into nonpaper w no identifying header and send nonsecure.

Your "They aren't principled. At least not in a moral sense." is an example of what is wrong with politics today, and you should be ashamed of posting it.

Ok, let's look at your argument.

On the classification side of things, there is not a lot of solid information about whether something bad was actually done or not. Yes there are seven email threads (twenty-some emails in all) that contain information that is now considered classified. So far no-one with any knowledge of those emails directly has commented on whether that information was classified when those emails were sent. We have heard that those emails did not have classified markers on them, but that again does not mean that the information was not classified at that time.

In other words, she committed a felony right there by creating and maintaining the server right here since classified information was sent repeatedly and corrective action not taken.

It's also worth noting here that there's a lot more than a handful of "email threads". We have spy satellite data stripped of its classified information - that's a felony for whoever did that. We have people, particularly, Sidney Blumenthal without a clearance given access to this information. That is a felony right there. And then we have Clinton instructing an aide to strip classified markings from an email. That is a felony right there.

And it's worth noting that this particular email setup has already allowed Clinton to evade FOIA requests. I believe that is a felony as well.

So, saying people who support Hillery Clinton are not morally principled is an example of unprincipled partisanship. Please wait for facts before accusing anyone, let alone making accusations about their supporters. There is plenty to legitimately disagree about in the actual issues in the campaign, without resorting to unsubstantiated mud-slinging.

Fuck you. This sort of weaseling is exactly why I agree that Clinton supporters are remarkably unprincipled. Notice that you aren't arguing that Clinton didn't commit these crimes, but rather that we can't prove it.